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Speaker 1: I'm sad imamandas P. Hey boo, it's me Roz.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got to talk to my friend Rachel, also

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Speaker 2: known professionally as her initials are h Stavis. She has

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Speaker 2: So I hope you enjoyed this episode. We had a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun. We talked about Annabelle. She has some

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Speaker 2: just keep it brief here. As always, just check out

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Speaker 2: my Patreon if you want to hear me doing some

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Speaker 2: bonus episodes by myself and some videos and all that

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Speaker 2: if you can. And I hope you're enjoying your Halloween time.

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Speaker 2: Here's me talking to Rachel on with the show, back

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Speaker 2: for her third visit. One of our absolute favorite guests,

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Speaker 2: Rachel Stavis, also known as our h Stavis.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you. Hi.

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Speaker 1: We've never heard these person.

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Speaker 3: I know. I can't believe I'm actually like seeing your

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Speaker 2: Well, we're friends, Yes, I want the world to know

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Speaker 1: The story goes back. I was in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and I was in this hotel room of this

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Speaker 1: This is March.

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Speaker 2: Eleventh or something like that, twenty twenty, okay, like right

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Speaker 2: before and I'm like sitting there and I'm watching this

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Speaker 3: That's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in my note of like notes app of people

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Speaker 2: I want on the podcast, I wanted it. Were you

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Speaker 3: That's how it happens. That's what That's what occurs, you know.

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Speaker 2: And we we have not gone ghost hunting together necessarily,

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Speaker 2: We've seen movies together. I celebrate your birthday with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Anyone is unaware of your abilities, people should read your

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Speaker 2: And I know Bendola Krem talks about it on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: And I have the hardest time doubting you. I believe everything.

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Speaker 3: To to imagine, like they'd be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: You have my permission next time I have one of

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that's possible?

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Speaker 3: And even like discussing that gives me like the chills

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Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah, because I'm always like why would they choose you?

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Speaker 3: Who cares? And also like what are you doing? So

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Speaker 3: you're gonna kill these five people? And that's still right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because yeah, it's like you could go anywhere,

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Speaker 3: Only if that girl is going to grow up to

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Speaker 3: I mean if it's the if it's a realm walker.

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Speaker 1: Have you encountered somebody levitating.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it does happen, but I should I should

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Speaker 3: maybe you played like it, yes, where you know people

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Speaker 1: I mean, because that's the thing that's something.

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Speaker 2: That could be fun levitating if it was like in

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how fun it is if

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Speaker 1: It, though maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've joked about this before, like if you

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Speaker 3: Well that's true, Like we could do this for good.

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Speaker 1: Because I live alone, I can't move my coach.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I get it like I don't want to lift

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Speaker 2: No, if I had just a nice entity. Have you

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Speaker 3: I mean nice entities are spirit guides, angels, like I

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Speaker 2: But now those higher beings can they possess a human?

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Speaker 3: I mean I suppose they could, but they would never

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. My friend Sherry Vine has the story

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Speaker 2: and they're like, you just flew She's like, I think

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Speaker 3: It happens, and when it's not your time to break

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Speaker 1: Part of the plan. Right, So you've never seen someone's

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Speaker 3: No, God, I don't think you'd survived that. How would

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Reagan, did have you ever seen?

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Speaker 2: When you hear these historical stories or wherever stories are

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Speaker 3: That does happen, that can happen?

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Speaker 2: What is that all about?

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Speaker 3: Showing off? That's what that is.

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Speaker 3: Showing off, that's it. And normally that happens. And I

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Speaker 3: That's not how that works. If you have mental illness

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Speaker 3: And that's how attachment gets in any way, through lowered frequency.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you explained.

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Speaker 2: And I think the first time you were on about

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Speaker 3: It's there people, people go back and listen to it.

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Speaker 1: What about superhuman strength?

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Speaker 3: I mean that actually happens to people for a lot

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Speaker 3: but it's also like you know when you see someone

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Speaker 2: But like the have you ever encountered, like during exorcism,

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Speaker 3: I definitely have have had entity that likes to tell

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Speaker 3: Stuff about my past, stuff about this, stuff about.

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Speaker 1: That now that's very the movie the exorses.

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Speaker 3: Right, and it does happen, that actually does. I'm again

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Speaker 1: But that's the spooky shit.

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Speaker 3: I that spooky shit. So yes, that can happen, and

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Speaker 3: how in movies? What is it in movies that you

442
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 3: can't listen because they lie? Like they always tell you, like,

443
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 3: don't listen to the dmon It lies, right, sure, and

444
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: I guess it lies. I don't know. But more importantly,

445
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: it tells the truth. So more importantly it likes to

446
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: like hook in by telling you cool like stuff about

447
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: your past, like I know about this, and I know

448
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 3: about that, and I know about this weird stuff when

449
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: you were five and this happened, And so it more

450
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: tells the truth in my opinion. So when it does that,

451
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: you know, you know me like if I may, I'm

452
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 3: always like you can fuck off nothing stopping this. You

453
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: can keep telling me all about myself. I'm make me

454
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: a narcissist. That's fine. I'm still gonna do the work.

455
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's trying to deter every one of those

456
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: things is just a deterrent trying to get you to stop,

457
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: trying to be able to catch its breath, trying to

458
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: be able to continue.

459
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it is so scary to me.

460
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: Like it's like my everyday business.

461
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: I've all of a sudden it said something like, when

462
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: you were fourteen, I know what you did with that

463
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: that picture of Josh Doumel, And I was there. I

464
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: saw it like I would be like the Dame of.

465
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 3: Flying well, and you know what, you don't get scared

466
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 3: when I say that to you.

467
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: That would scare me too, I don't see. That's one

468
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: thing I don't like about psychics. I don't like people.

469
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: I told the story one time on this pod. I

470
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: had a friend that had psychic abilities, and it creeped

471
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: me out knowing that he could know things private things

472
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: about me.

473
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: Well, did he did he do that?

474
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: Like?

475
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: Did he ever say like I did?

476
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: One time?

477
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: So that's not.

478
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Cool to prove to me that he was real. And

479
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: then I was like, oh, you're real, But wait a minute.

480
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: What else do you know about?

481
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: You know what creeps people out? So I'm generally I

482
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: would say a pretty kind, nice, even killed person. But

483
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: every now and again, Well, thank you. Every now and

484
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 3: again I come across someone whose energy is just like, oh,

485
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: I just don't like it because you know, maybe they're

486
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 3: not those people, you know what I mean, they're not

487
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: like great people. And so whenever I've come in contact

488
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: with that, and especially when people are like they don't

489
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: believe what you do and they're just like very dismissive

490
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: and just really condescending, and like, you know, that does happen.

491
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes you're in a group of people and this person

492
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: just met you and they're just kind of whatever.

493
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

494
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: What I love to tell them is that I see

495
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: the the worst things people have ever done first, and

496
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: they never talk to me again. No, because it's true, though,

497
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 3: do you ever prove it? I've never see I feel

498
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: like I'm too nice to be like in a group

499
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: of people in a function and be like, hey, so

500
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: I know you did this, Like that was really disturbing.

501
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't do that generally, right, but you could.

502
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's there. I'm just saying it's there.

503
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing.

504
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: We So we did a live show last Halloween together,

505
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: but it wasn't recorded, so if you weren't there, you

506
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: missed out. Uh, and we talked more on that about

507
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: your psychic medium type abilities, right, which that's a whole

508
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: other thing that you have as well.

509
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of all you know, once

510
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: you're connected to spirit, you're kind of connect to the spirit.

511
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: So I never, well, you know, like I never will

512
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: tell people like I'm a medium. I don't call myself

513
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 3: that at all. I don't do that for people for

514
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: the most part. But once a year I do, like

515
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: I host a seance just for friends and like close people,

516
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: and I do what you call platforming, which is essentially,

517
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, you stand there and the group is there,

518
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: and you just kind of decipher whatever comes in and

519
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: yell it out to people.

520
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh I witnessed I went to your one yes and

521
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: that was powerful.

522
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: Thank you. It's it's really interesting because I and again

523
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: you know, like I have like things I say before

524
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: I start, which is like I have no idea what's

525
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 3: going to come in. I don't know if a relative

526
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: or friend of yours is going to come in, Like

527
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: if there's like thirty people, you know, I don't know.

528
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: I don't know who's pushing us. I don't know which

529
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: deceased person's going to be pushing us. It's basically what

530
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I think. So you know, you might as

531
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: one person have multiple reads that come in. Someone may

532
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: not get you know any me. Well, I'm sorry, I

533
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: just don't know. But it could happen this time, you

534
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It depends on how pushy the

535
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: deceased people are, Like the most aggressive usually get in first.

536
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: So there's like if you can picture it, like a

537
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: line is not quite this, but like a line of

538
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: dead people are like, yeah, everybody's here, like okay, me first, No, me, me.

539
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: You're literally a bouncer because you let them in in

540
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: the list and then you kick the ones out that

541
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: are bad.

542
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: I do. And And also one of the things that

543
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: I always tell people before I start is if we

544
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: get too deep, like if you have someone come through

545
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: that you have issues with because they want to force

546
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 3: themselves into your life right now and put it all

547
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: on display and because they're looking for some kind of forgiveness.

548
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: If that's not cool for you, you tell me to stop,

549
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: and I'll stop. And that has happened. That has happened,

550
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: like with people's deceased parents who were like not great.

551
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: You know, they're trying to get there, like then you're

552
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: forced to be I just tell them no, I just

553
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: stop reading them completely. Okay. You know, like if someone's

554
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: getting that the messages and they nod and they want

555
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: to continue, I'll keep going right like you've seen that.

556
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: But if they're starting to cry and they're starting to

557
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: get upset and it's starting to get too pushy and

558
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: they're like, no, we cut that right off.

559
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: Got it? So what?

560
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 2: And it's a question. And I always preface this when

561
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: I ask people this because I don't know the right

562
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: way to ask the way.

563
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Doesn't it your nails? You have ghosts on your nails?

564
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a ghost friends so cute? Yeah, the ghost

565
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 2: French manicure. What are your abilities? Like, what are your

566
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: psychic abilities? So you can clairvoyant? You can you know?

567
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh like in what way do they come in?

568
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

569
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. So for me, it's kind of weird because

570
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: I'll get words, I'll get pictures, but mostly I'll get feelings.

571
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: So when I do these seances, it will be it's

572
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: totally normal. This is another thing I tell people before

573
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: I start. It's totally normal for me to cry. It's

574
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: totally normal to like get into because what happens is

575
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: it's almost it's not possession, but it's like the spirit

576
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 3: kind of walks their feelings into you. Okay, so if

577
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: they have an emotional situation with someone, even if it's good,

578
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: it's so overwhelming that you just can't help but feel

579
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: every feeling. And sometimes and I again, I can't remember

580
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: what happened last time, but like I know for a

581
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: fact a few times when I've done this, I'm like,

582
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: you need to push back. It's too much, like I

583
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: can'll never be able to share the message with all

584
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: your feels up and here, like, yeah, you need to

585
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: you need to tone it down, summer it down.

586
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so can you what about like future stuff

587
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: like can you see into the future? Not really, No,

588
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: that's probably for the best.

589
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one.

590
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what people do that.

591
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't. I don't. Of course, we all want

592
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: to know, like are we going to get this job

593
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: or like whatever, but like I don't, I don't think

594
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: that's good.

595
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean for me, I don't know that it would

596
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: be good for me either. I think whenever I ask,

597
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: like I'm impatient also, and so I'll ask spirit, like

598
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: what do you think of this? What do you think

599
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: of that? And they will give me real vague answers

600
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: because they don't want really me to know.

601
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's probably for the best.

602
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: Have you had any anything that as normal people that

603
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: don't see demons would consider real terrifying lately? Because you

604
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: get these visits in the night I do from creatures.

605
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: Well on occasion, I'll get this is so ridiculous. So

606
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: several halloweens ago, I bought one of those like little

607
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: prop you know, spooky doll things, the ones that like,

608
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: like uh, are on like rocking chairs and shit, you know,

609
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 3: like the little ones, the ones that are like on

610
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: the table, tabletop, spooky doll. Sure, the little animatronic that

611
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: you turn on has like a couple things it says

612
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: and it lights up. Okay, So I bought this one

613
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: total mass market item, but of course I brought it

614
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: home with me, and so the thing it was, we're

615
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: supposed to say, which I can't even remember what it was,

616
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: was just like you know, ring around the rosy or

617
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: some shitah, which is always the scariest, like a lullaby. Yes,

618
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, one of those like creepy,

619
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: but I thought, oh, it's cute though, put it around

620
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: for how I don't know. I liked it adorable, So

621
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: I brought it home with me into my you know,

622
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: haunted cave, and all of a sudden, the things that

623
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: it was supposed to say didn't. It didn't say them anymore,

624
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: and it just started going off scripts and just saying shit,

625
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: when you press the button it went, it did, that's

626
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: not your line. It totally did. So it started to

627
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: say like, it started to ask who I was and

628
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: where it was, and like what was going on? And

629
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: why is it so dark in here? And like all

630
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: just weird random shit. It totally did. And so I

631
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: would try to get it to do that for other

632
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: people when they came home, and it would just do

633
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: the same thing the factory said it would do, and

634
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: it just wouldn't do it for anybody else. The only

635
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: other person who saw it was Kate, and she made

636
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: me put it in the garage. She won't look at

637
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: it anymore. She's like, this thing is gross. I don't

638
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: want it here. So I had to put it away.

639
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: Do you think it was a haunted item that what

640
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: was it? Or is it a deem an entity trying to.

641
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: It was probably just like a bunch of diseased people

642
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: messing with me and decease people that are just around

643
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: that are just like, hey, look at this hat adull.

644
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: We'll just make it more hometed.

645
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Is it dark in here?

646
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm so lonely.

647
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, this sounds like a fun thing. It's Halloween time

648
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: for them.

649
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: To I mean, they do like to play with people.

650
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: This is the thing. This is why it's so funny

651
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: to me that ghost hunting exists, because it's like, disease

652
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: people are everywhere and want to mess with you, And like,

653
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: what's the word hunting? Exactly?

654
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean typically it means.

655
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: Killing, right, so like what what what.

656
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Is that catching? I think it should be ghost catching.

657
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: Or you're not just ghost getting to know you?

658
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

659
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, ghosts mingling.

660
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: Ghost mingling. I like that. We're just we're just having

661
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: a little get together. We're having a dinner party. We

662
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: just want to get to know you.

663
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Why do you think that when people go out looking

664
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: for it they have a hard time because.

665
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: They're usually really messy about it, okay, and they're not respectful,

666
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: Like think about it. You go into a place like

667
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: an asylum, right, some abandoned asylum where there was so

668
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: much pain and agony and torture and like terrible things

669
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: happened there, and we're just thinking of basically making a

670
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: mockery of this. We're going in with our whatever divining

671
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: rods and shit, and we're trying to like prove that

672
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: something exists here. But it's like, actually, you're just going

673
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 3: in to be disrespectful, right, Like if you went into

674
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: those spaces This again sounds cheesy, but like if you

675
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: went into those spaces open with love to heal, you

676
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: would get a very different response from anybody in the space,

677
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: you know, like with Celebrity Exorcism, the TV show you

678
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: did last year, Yes, right exactly, So I did that

679
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: last year and people are just now covering it.

680
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just went to the American Horror Story house.

681
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: I did.

682
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: I did. I went to the mansion and you know

683
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 3: it did have a haunted past. I think I told

684
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: you we did. We talked about this when we did

685
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: the live event, so I don't know what I said already,

686
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: but like I was really skeptical before we went to

687
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: the space because I didn't know what the space was.

688
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: And they were like, yeah, it's this house, and I

689
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: was like houses don't typically have entity, so I'm not

690
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: going to lie and say there's entity if there's not,

691
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: like you know. So they were like, that's cool, just

692
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: let us know, like you know, they were actually really

693
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: good about it. So I went to the space a

694
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: week before we filmed in the space and lo and behold,

695
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: there was actually entity. But the entity was in the basement.

696
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is weird, because why is

697
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 3: it just in the basement, you know? And as I

698
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: walked through the space, I realized that, oh, there's a

699
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: lot of deceased people in the space, and oh there's

700
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: a lot of nuns in the space for some reason.

701
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: And I didn't know anything about the history. I didn't

702
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 3: want anybody to tell me anything. I just wanted to

703
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: walk through and oh, someone committed suicide over here, and like,

704
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: whoa god, there's so much stuff going on in this

705
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: one house, like what the hell? And the house of

706
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: course is enormous. It's huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, And

707
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: so eventually I was like, Okay, here's everything that's in here.

708
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: Here's the names of all these people, here's all these nuns.

709
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: Tell me about these nuns because these nuns are in here,

710
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: and like the nuns are keeping the entity down in

711
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: the basement, like they won't let it come up, but

712
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: they can't get rid of it all the way. So

713
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: then I find out, you know, because now we're having

714
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: a conversation that yes, it used to be like like

715
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 3: a convent and there's like a chapel in the space,

716
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: and like there was like a bunch of murders in

717
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: the basement. They didn't know this, but this is what

718
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: came through, and it was something about prohibition and like

719
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: using the house during that time, and there was like

720
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 3: a lot of gambling and a lot of weird stuff

721
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: going on in that basement, which is what attracted this

722
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: particular entity. And then the nuns figured that out and

723
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: we're able to push it down. And then when they pass,

724
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: they stayed to protect the house, which is why they

725
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: had so much conflicting stuff going on, like between floors,

726
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: so like one floor was totally clean, another floor was

727
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: like real messy. The first floor was like between both

728
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: the basement and the you know. So it was like

729
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: different feeling energy in every space. But one thing that

730
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: everybody felt beforehand, like when we walked in, when you

731
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: were in a space, So let me just say this

732
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: for people when you are in a space that has

733
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: high frantic energy, like a lot of deceased people, an

734
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: entity both, you know whatever. If you are sensitive enough,

735
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: you will feel like you are underwater. That's the sensation

736
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 3: that you're just walking through water. Your head will be spinning,

737
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: like everything is like, you know, slightly. I don't know

738
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: what that feeling is, but you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,

739
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: that's the feeling you'll get when there's a lot of

740
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: like a massive amount of energy on a space. And

741
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: everybody felt that in that space.

742
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: Jodi Sweden, Yeah, oh yeah, yes, who I saw at

743
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: a party last week.

744
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's right.

745
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

746
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: I was too afraid to go to her and go

747
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: so you had celebrity experts.

748
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm sure she would have been flattered. And

749
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: she's very sweet and yeah, everyone on there was so good,

750
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: like Shah and Meta and they're wonderful, and everyone was

751
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: really trying to I think, like really truly truly experience

752
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: their gifts and like tune into everything and do the work.

753
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: So it was really interesting to see that happen over

754
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: a week's time, because that's what we did. We did

755
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: it for a week and see everybody kind of be

756
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: able to talk to spirit and be able to sense

757
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: the deceased people, and you know, it's like cool to watch.

758
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh, I'm thinking about this entity in

759
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: the basement, which because you can, I believe what you did,

760
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, was you took the bad out

761
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: and you kept the good.

762
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I ask, so the house is

763
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: owned by someone, and don't I'm not going to disclose

764
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: any of that stuff, but I did ask the homeowner,

765
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: what do you want to do? Because I don't like

766
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: taking ghosts out of a space. I don't like it

767
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: unless they're like really pain in the assy. I really

768
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: don't like it because most of the time deceased people

769
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm okay, So I am a deceased people's advocate. I am.

770
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: I really hate that people are constantly afraid of deceased people,

771
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: though I totally understand it.

772
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: Right, I feel the same way too, But I'm also

773
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 2: I'm an advocate for them too. But I think that

774
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: anytime people don't have boundaries dead are alive.

775
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: It's scary that right, Well, that's true.

776
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: People appearing and disappearing in front of people's eyes. If

777
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 2: you're a magician, or a ghost that's terrifying, Like stuff

778
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: like that is scary.

779
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: It can and it can be, and like oftentimes they're

780
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: not trying to be scarier, they're trying to communicate, but

781
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: they don't know. They just don't know. So it's it's

782
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: like a whole thing. But you know, in this case,

783
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: I was like, listen, these people who are deceased here

784
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: want to be here, Like this is a choice. They're

785
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: stuck here. Not nobody's trapped here. This is where they

786
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: chose to be. So what do you want to do? Like,

787
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 3: if it's not bothersome to you, I'd like to leave

788
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: them so that they can oversee your family and make

789
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: sure things are okay, and like that's all they want

790
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: to do. And so the homeowner was like, actually, I

791
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: feel really good about that because I have had instances

792
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: with one of the nuns or this nun or that

793
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: non and it's been really good for my family. So

794
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: I don't I would rather not take them out, just

795
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: take the thing out that is scaring everyone and causing damage.

796
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: So the nuns were there not just to keep the

797
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: demon down or the no they would.

798
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: Just wanted like to be a part of the like

799
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: they were very like they very much loved the space,

800
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: and they wanted to make sure things were safe. They

801
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: just always wanted to make sure things were safe, and

802
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: like they also there was one particular nun who was

803
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: brought there young and was pregnant and killed herself in

804
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: the house. And so she's very much like obsessed with

805
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: looking over the family and like, you know, making sure

806
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: everyone's happy and like if there's anybody like in a

807
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: bad space, you know, she likes to be there. And

808
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: so it's just nice, you know, like this is the

809
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: thing that ghosts can be. It can be nice to

810
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: have ghost. Like I have a ghost and I really

811
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: love him. You're a ghost, of course I do.

812
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: Who's your goal? Of course you do. Who's your ghost?

813
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: My ghost is the ghost of the stuntman who built

814
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: my house.

815
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: What.

816
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Yes, he was a Hollywood stuntman and he built my

817
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: house and it was his house for many many years,

818
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: and he watches over the house. So he, oh, my god,

819
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I should go here. I'm

820
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: just gonna go here. I'm just gonna go I'm going

821
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: to a place. I'm going to a place I don't

822
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: know I want to. So he generally does not like

823
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: yelling or man yelling. He doesn't like man yelling. He

824
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 3: doesn't like bad male energy. And he will make any

825
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: man who comes into the house that is like not

826
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: a great guy sick immediately, wow, immediately, he will make

827
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: them sick. He is very much about ladies, so he

828
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: likes that, and he's fine with guys that are like

829
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: cool and nice. He doesn't like anyone who raises their

830
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: voice to you. That really pisses him off. And he

831
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: also goes around at like I would say, two three

832
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: in the morning, Like he goes around several times a

833
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: night to check the locks and make sure that the

834
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: locks are locked.

835
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: And what is that like, like you hear the doors.

836
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he jiggles the locks and he will he'll turn

837
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: the lock if he thinks it's not locked enough. Like

838
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: if you forget, I mean I shouldn't. I don't forget

839
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: to lock the door, but like he will check and

840
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 3: make sure that it's locked.

841
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: That's so sweet.

842
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: Actually does that, he does that, and like he's a

843
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: real gentleman. Kate didn't know that for like the longest Yeah,

844
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know that for the longest time. And then

845
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: one night woke up and heard locks jiggling, and of

846
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: course it's like very scary.

847
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like someone's trying to get in.

848
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: Right, much scarier than the deceased person in my opinion.

849
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: So she like ran out and she just saw the

850
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: doors doing this and like jiggling and then not them

851
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: from the front door to the side door to the

852
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: spirit room door, just jiggling all the locks.

853
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, So how did you find out that

854
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: that's what was going on there? Like?

855
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: Did you?

856
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: I mean he told me, you know, because I can

857
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: speak to them, so he was just like I checked

858
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: the locks and making sure you close the locks.

859
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: But okay, So when when you first moved in, you

860
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: were you instantly like, oh, there's a man here.

861
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: I instantly felt a presence, but it was instantly nice,

862
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: like I just was. I liked it a lot. But

863
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 3: even before I moved in, when I went to look

864
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: at the house, I was like, oh, this feels good.

865
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: This is good, you know. And then of course as

866
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 3: I moved in got settled, I was like, hi, hello there,

867
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: and I've been there a long time now, so it's like,

868
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, we're confet with each other.

869
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Did you because you're somebody that's being as legit as

870
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: I know you are. Do you feel the need to

871
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: get to research and kind of corroborate your story or

872
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: you're just like.

873
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: I think I got like I know exactly what this is.

874
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: I prefer not to at first, like it's nice to

875
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: have confirmation, So yes to a point, yes, and to

876
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: a point, I've received confirmation on his existence, you know

877
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: what I mean. But like in the beginning, even with

878
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: the Rehinehart mansion, I didn't want anybody to tell me anything,

879
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: and there's not a lot believe it or not, aside

880
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: from like it's a spooky mansion, there's not a lot

881
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: of information about why it's a spooky manchion, like on

882
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 3: any kind of record. So I was like, Okay, don't

883
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: tell me anything, don't talk to me. I need to

884
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: go through the rooms because I would much rather. It's like,

885
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: you know, when someone comes in for an exorcism, I

886
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: don't know anything about them. Even if there's someone that

887
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to know everything about. I'm really bad and

888
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: terrible at that. I don't research people at all. So

889
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, when they come in, when they tell me

890
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: something that I guess is even public knowledge. Ninety nine

891
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: percent of the time. I don't know that anyway, So

892
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: I'd rather you say nothing first, you know what I mean, Like,

893
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 3: you can tell me what's going on with you currently,

894
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: but you don't tell me much about your past or

895
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: your history or any of that stuff. I would rather

896
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: it come in authentically from spirit and tell you this

897
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: is what's going on with you, which in celebrity exorcism,

898
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: actually you can see a lot of that because they

899
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: didn't tell me those things. And regardless of whether that's

900
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: public information or not. Like I said, I'm really bad

901
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: at that. Like I'm terrible at doing anything online.

902
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

903
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: I literally posted my verse TikTok video today.

904
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: Oh congrats, tell people where to follow you.

905
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: I'm an R. H. Davis on everything. That's so that's

906
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: me everywhere. So if you like this kind of thing,

907
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: that's where it is.

908
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait.

909
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: So with this man though, did you so you found

910
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: out like did they tell you when you moved in?

911
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: Oh it was built by a stuntman.

912
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: No. I didn't know for the longest time, and then

913
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: I found out later and I was like, oh, this

914
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: is yeah, of course that's who's here, Like, yes, that's him.

915
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Have you ever watched one of his like movies or something.

916
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: I haven't. I don't. I'm like a little nervous about

917
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: doing that. I don't know, why is that weird?

918
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: I think he would like it.

919
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 3: He probably would like it, maybe for Halloween. Yeah for him.

920
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: What do you know what movies he was.

921
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: In or I don't know offhand. I'd have to look, yeah,

922
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: I'd have to look. But he was like very famous.

923
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Cool.

924
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

925
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 1: I hadn't know. I didn't even know that you lived

926
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: with a ghost.

927
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, Well, this theme today is kind of

928
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: Hollywood and demons and entities and ghosts and stuff.

929
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: It seems we went there.

930
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went there.

931
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: But okay, this is kind of a basic ghost story

932
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: for a podcast. But I wanted to get back to

933
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: the basics. Okay, I talk about annabel okay, because I

934
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: was like, I need to brush up on what the

935
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: Annabelle story is.

936
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: I get confused with the movie right right right, and

937
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: like I.

938
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: Pretty much I was like, oh, okay, I actually did

939
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: know this entire story, but you know the.

940
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: Real story, right it's like a raggedy ann.

941
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: Yes, she was really a raggedy ant dohll yes, okay,

942
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: which is just like with real movies nowadays, there's this

943
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: trend of these gorgeous actresses that put all these prosthetics

944
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: to play another you know, to play a real person.

945
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: Same thing happened to annabel The actress that played annabel

946
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: and the movie did not look anything like the real Annabelle.

947
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true. So you know, that's what I

948
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: wouldn't have known them on the street at that raggedy andhl.

949
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: No, No, that's what they do in Hollywood. It's terrible.

950
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: I feel bad for the real Annabelle because the real

951
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: Annabelle didn't look scary really, unless you think it raggedy

952
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: and doll is scary.

953
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: But like people have seen a raggedy and doll, like

954
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: the mass market produced non porcelain, you know, like it's

955
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: like a fluffy.

956
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: Like a floppy old doll with all Yeah.

957
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: But the one in the movie like she's she's had

958
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 2: some work done.

959
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not something you would just be like,

960
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: this looks nice.

961
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, No, for my grandma.

962
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: The doll in the Annibal movie, nobody ever would buy that.

963
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: Doll unless they wanted a creepy doll. Well maybe they

964
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: were like this is exactly what I've been looking for one.

965
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: That's the kind of doll that they sell on eBay,

966
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: right that they're like, oh, take a look at all

967
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: of the is like orbes around Annabelle.

968
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I'm obsessed with the eBay Haunted dolls and

969
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: they're so fun. Annabelle, as I've said before, she's like

970
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: the Kim Kardashian of haunted dolls. I think the ones

971
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: on eBay they all want to be Annabelle. The Annabelle's

972
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: is kind of the.

973
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean, she's the movie star of them all.

974
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: She is.

975
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of people, a lot

976
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: of dolls on eBay that think that they're going to

977
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: get their franchise.

978
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of dolls wish that they'd

979
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: reached out to the Warrens as well.

980
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure they did. Yeah, well they might reach out

981
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: to you to be careful.

982
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 2: So the real story is nineteen seventy a nursing student

983
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: named Donna, though some say her name was Deirdre.

984
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: She was given this raggedy.

985
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: And dohl, which is believed to have been purchased at

986
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: a second hand store by her mother for her twenty

987
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: eighth birthday.

988
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: Which is for a raggedy a doll.

989
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: You know, she got twenty eighth birthday. I'm not going

990
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: to make any judgment about that, but all right, she's,

991
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: you know, twenty eight years old.

992
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: She got a raggedy a doll. Okay, but it wasn't

993
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: just any old raggedy ann doll.

994
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: I guess this was an extra raggedy and doll because

995
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: this one had a demon allegedly inside of it. So

996
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 2: she brings it home to her apartment that she shared

997
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: with another nursing student named Angie. And at first it's

998
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 2: all cute. They're having fun. Look at this key little

999
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: doll we have, and then they started noticing that it

1000
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: was moving around.

1001
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: The house by herself.

1002
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: Okay.

1003
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: They would leave around the couch, go to work, they'd

1004
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: cross her legs, and then they'd come home and they

1005
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: would be uncrossed.

1006
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: Okay, just like.

1007
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: Little things like that.

1008
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: Or they would go home, they'd have her on the couch,

1009
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: then they'd go to work. Then they'd come home and

1010
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: she'd be in a bedroom with a door shut.

1011
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: Which I say, give Annabelle her privacy, all.

1012
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I mean, okay, let her.

1013
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: Do whatever she's gotta do. Don't bother Annabelle.

1014
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: So what turned it from okay privacy.

1015
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: Then she started to leave notes around the house. This

1016
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: is all in the movie too, where she left notes

1017
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: around the house on parchment paper that said help me

1018
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: things like that, And apparently they didn't own any parchment papers,

1019
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: so they're like, where is she getting this parchment paper?

1020
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: This is before Amazon Prime. I don't know where she was.

1021
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: Maybe she was stuffed with it. It could be then

1022
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 3: how she holding it with those raggedy ann hands, right,

1023
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: I got questions?

1024
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: So then Angie the roommate, her boyfriend Lou. There seems

1025
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: to be a couple of different tellings of this story,

1026
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: but apparently all Right taking a nap one day on

1027
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: the couch and Annabelle's in the couch too, and he

1028
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: has this dream that she's craying on top of him

1029
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: and choking him, and then he wakes up but he's

1030
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: got seven scratches on his stomach and chest and they're deep.

1031
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: And then apparently they went away very quickly after that,

1032
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: within a few days. Another version of the story is

1033
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: that he was in the house and he heard somebody

1034
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: going through his girlfriend's bedroom. He goes in there and

1035
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: she's just like laying on the ground like what so

1036
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1037
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he well.

1038
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: Also to make the story even more dramatic, the first

1039
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: story where he wakes up with an app he wakes

1040
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: up after this nightmare and he's like, you can't hurt anybody.

1041
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: He's like yelling, like you're just a fake raggedy handle.

1042
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: And then he throws her.

1043
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: And then that's when it was like, Scratch, I have questions, please,

1044
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't have answers, but let's ponder.

1045
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: So when he was dreaming of this raggedy handle, was

1046
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: it legit? The raggedy andl was.

1047
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: It because already things are happening in the house, So.

1048
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't like something else, you know what I mean,

1049
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: Like it didn't appear, and it's like true for him,

1050
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: it was like raggedy handle. And then somehow this very

1051
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: soft itea Scratch, gave him all these deep wounds.

1052
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: There's a demon inside and demons have claws. Dum.

1053
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very funny.

1054
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: Not knowing anything about demons, Okay, So I learned as

1055
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: I go. So then they call it a medium, okay,

1056
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: and this medium says that it is a six or

1057
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: seven year old girl named Annabelle Higgins who was killed

1058
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: in a car accident outside of the apartment at some point,

1059
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: and she's gotten into this doll and.

1060
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: She wait outside of their apartment. Yeah, so she knew. Okay,

1061
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 3: let's let's back up here. Okay, so she knew to

1062
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: get into this doll, or supposedly was already in the doll,

1063
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: just waiting for what this mom to come to bring

1064
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: the doll back to the apartment.

1065
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: Well, maybe she wasn't in the doll before. Maybe once

1066
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: the doll gets to the house, then this girl's spirit

1067
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: around the house is like, oh, I'm going to get

1068
00:53:59,360 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: in the doll.

1069
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, here's.

1070
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: A descal for me to caral in.

1071
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: So we're saying it wasn't haunted, then it was haunted.

1072
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: Then it became haunted. That's with this medium, I think

1073
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: said okay, okay. But so then the girls are like, ah,

1074
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: like we have a little friend, like she she wants

1075
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 2: you know, she's just this little girl.

1076
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: So they're like, you can stay with us, like, no

1077
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: big deal, just don't scratch my man, you know. And

1078
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: then it starts to.

1079
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Take a turn.

1080
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: I heard it got pretty ugly.

1081
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: Things are getting a little ugly, and that's when the

1082
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: girls are like, okay, never mind when we said you

1083
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: should come in here and be our friend, Like you're

1084
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: being creepy. Yeah yeah, I was a little like, okay,

1085
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: you totally said I could just be.

1086
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: Here, and now you're it's disrespectful.

1087
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1088
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: So they get in an episcopal priest. They hit up

1089
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: the priest, who as you do. Yeah, they call up

1090
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: the priest and the priest was like, actually, I'm gonna

1091
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: talk to my superior, and then the superior is like, oh,

1092
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: actually the Warrens are gonna deal with this ad and

1093
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: Lorraine Warren. Okay, So the Warrens come in and they're like,

1094
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: do you know ghosts don't possess objects, only demons too?

1095
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: Do you feel that way too?

1096
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: I feel no really about both. Honestly. The only time

1097
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: that like, a ghost in my in my experience doesn't

1098
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 3: really have a need to go into an object because

1099
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: there's a round like you don't need to be an

1100
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: adult to move shit in someone's apartment or haunt them, right,

1101
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 3: But same for demons, you don't really need an item

1102
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: to do that either. So anytime that someone's like I'm

1103
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: telling you there's a demon in this item, I'm like,

1104
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: there's no reason for that. That's an inanimate object. The

1105
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: only reason for that would be to get close to

1106
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: a person. So because there's nothing to take from the object,

1107
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: we want to take from you. That's the feed, right.

1108
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: So to me, it's like an extra step most demons

1109
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 3: would not take. I don't know why you would do it.

1110
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Waste of time.

1111
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: It's kind of a waste.

1112
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: It's scary.

1113
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's good. Theatrics it is.

1114
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: It's a movie.

1115
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: It's great for a movie, funny enough.

1116
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: The warns felt pretty similar to that. They think that

1117
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: they went wrong.

1118
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: The girls went wrong when they welcomed it into their

1119
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: house and they said, oh no, you can say all that.

1120
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: That's when things went wrong because it was really some

1121
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: kind of demon. As they would say that.

1122
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 3: Demons are not vampires. They don't need to be invited.

1123
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: They don't give two shits about your free will. They'd

1124
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 3: rather you don't even know they're there, right, So they

1125
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 3: don't need that. They don't need you to be like, oh, demon,

1126
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: I love you so much, why don't you hang out

1127
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: with me? You know, like, they don't need any of that. So,

1128
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's cute, it's nice. I'm gonna hang out

1129
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: no matter what they do, what they want to do

1130
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 3: until you expel them out.

1131
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: But it kept the girls from calling up the priest

1132
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: or whatever. They were just like, oh stay like you.

1133
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, I mean I guess it's like good fool times,

1134
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: like you know, like, hey, it's sweet, I guess.

1135
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, they the Warrans also like what you said,

1136
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: believe that it was just basically using this doll to get.

1137
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Closer of course, yeah, so that I could possess. So

1138
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: then the demons are like, all right, we're gonna start.

1139
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: The did I say the demons? The Warrens are like, okay,

1140
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna take this doll with us because we got

1141
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: this museum that they can put it in. And they

1142
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: tell the priests like, okay, you clean up, like you know,

1143
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: get anything, do exorcism on this house, and.

1144
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: We're going to take the doll. We're out of here.

1145
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

1146
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: So apparently, as the Warrens are leaving this house, they

1147
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: put an a belt in the back seat and they

1148
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: buckle her in.

1149
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: Okay.

1150
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: And as they're driving, they're having break problems with their

1151
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: car okay, and it's scary. So then Ed Warren pulls

1152
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: out his Holy Water and he like puts it all

1153
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: over the doll and then the brakes are fine. Okay,

1154
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 2: how do you feel about that?

1155
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: I mean again, whether they took the object or they

1156
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: didn't make no difference, because it wouldn't stay with the object.

1157
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: If the goal was to work there its way into

1158
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 3: one of these women, then it would just stay in

1159
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: the house. Okay if you took think about it, logically,

1160
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: even from the story that was just told, if you

1161
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: took the item that supposedly the demon was in, why

1162
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: do you need someone to exercise the space? Now you

1163
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: took it, right, So that makes no sense. And now

1164
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: we're taking this supposedly demonic doll that we're not exercising

1165
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: at all. By the way, we're just leaving it because

1166
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: I don't know why now we're going to put it

1167
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: in another space. I don't understand. Please please explain, because

1168
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: to me, it's like, no, you just do the exorcism

1169
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: and get it all out, okay, you know.

1170
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: So okay, because yeah, that is kind of like a

1171
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: movie belief or I think a lot of people would

1172
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: believe that, Yeah, the demon would be attached to the doll.

1173
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: So it goes wherever we bring the doll the demon goes.

1174
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: But so what you're saying is, no, it wanted specifically

1175
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: the girls.

1176
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's where it ended up, right, So whether

1177
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: it wanted them specifically or not, who knows, right, But

1178
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: now it has them, Now it's in the space. Now

1179
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: it's feeding off them. Okay, so now someone's just going

1180
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: to take the doll and it's going to be.

1181
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: Like, no, it would go to the do on the house,

1182
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: but that was after no once. Yeah, as the warrants

1183
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: take the doll out of the house, the priest doesn't act.

1184
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: But see that that's an oxymoron to me because you're

1185
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: saying it's in the doll. So if I take the doll,

1186
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: all of your troubles go with with the doll. So

1187
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: why then would you then exercise the house because you believe.

1188
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: Thank off that demon stank. That's just kind of lingering around.

1189
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: Just it's ridiculous. I don't know.

1190
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: Listen what I always say, the Warrens, they were very

1191
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: early on and a lot of this kind of research,

1192
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: and they were figuring it out.

1193
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 3: As I mean, yes, yes, so but okay.

1194
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: Now listen to this.

1195
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: Okay, the demon doll can a bell goes to their

1196
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: house and Why because they have a museum where people

1197
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: go and see their haunted objects.

1198
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: Why if it's dangerous, why would you do this?

1199
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: They eventually put it in the glass case.

1200
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: What does that do?

1201
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: It keeps it in there? Why because it wants to

1202
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: get out?

1203
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: What does glass have to do with it? It's the demon?

1204
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like a pet. It's like if you

1205
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: had an iguana or something. It's not a pet to

1206
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: the Warrens. It's a pet.

1207
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: That's real trouble. Let me tell you.

1208
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay.

1209
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: So so they say, oh, and before they put it

1210
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: in the little aquarium.

1211
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 3: Their Ghosts of Inequana.

1212
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: Their demon aquarium, they noticed that it was moving around.

1213
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: They saw it levitate in the house.

1214
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: They put her in an outside office building that was

1215
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: like separate on the property. They locked it. She would

1216
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: turn up inside. She would pick the lock or whatever

1217
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: and somehow get back inside the house.

1218
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: Demons don't need locks.

1219
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: You're no fun.

1220
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: So then they put it in the in the box,

1221
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: the glass box. They put the Lord's prayer on it.

1222
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: They put the Saint Michael's prayer on it. And and

1223
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: I've seen pictures of it. They have like a dem

1224
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: the devil tarot card on the outside.

1225
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: Uh what does that do?

1226
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1227
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 3: You tell me, No, I don't know. I don't know

1228
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: what that does. I'm really curious. Is that to tell people?

1229
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: Is the devil don't come near?

1230
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: It?

1231
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: Could be does it cancel it out?

1232
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: Or a tarot card? I don't think so, I don't know.

1233
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1234
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: So Apparently one time a priest was there and was

1235
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: kind of making fun of the dolls, saying that it

1236
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: wasn't haunted. Can you guess what happened next?

1237
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: It stabbed him in the heart.

1238
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: No, he was driving home and he totaled his car.

1239
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: I see. Okay.

1240
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: Another time a guy was there, also not believing in it.

1241
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: And oh wait, but also the priest says that before

1242
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: he totaled his car, he saw her in his rear

1243
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: view mirror.

1244
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so he was alive.

1245
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: He did he didn't die. He didn't die, But allegedly

1246
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: there was a guy that did die. He died in

1247
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: a motorcycle accident on the way home after making fun

1248
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: of her.

1249
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean, demons don't like being made fun of.

1250
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: I can.

1251
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 3: I can say that's true.

1252
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: Now you're saying there is a demon in this doll.

1253
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying in general generally speaking, Wait, I've.

1254
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: Asked you before if I'm allowed to make fun of

1255
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: demons or if they're gonna come get me, and you

1256
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: said it was fine.

1257
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 3: Oh, it's fine. It's they just don't like it.

1258
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna call you at three o'clock in the

1259
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: morning and say you said that I can make fun

1260
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: of demons, and now Raggedy Ann's ass is crawling on

1261
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: me when I'm trying to sleep.

1262
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: Listen, if that happens, let me know, because I would

1263
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 3: have more questions. So first of all, I'd be like,

1264
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: why did you buy a Raggedy Ann doll? First of all,

1265
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: when you know that you know the consequence, she's clearly trouble.

1266
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: It's possible.

1267
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: So what do you take from this story? Like, do

1268
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: you think so it doesn't seem like you believe that

1269
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: the doll was able to get back the demon traveled

1270
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,959
Speaker 2: with the doll back home.

1271
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't need the doll, that's the thing.

1272
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: And also, let me clarify that if it was the

1273
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: ghost of a child, that's not a demon.

1274
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: Well it wasn't. They made that right.

1275
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying just generally speaking, whenever someone's like,

1276
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: the ghost became a demon because people think that. I

1277
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: don't know why they think that. I guess many movies

1278
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 3: have been made where a ghost turns into a demon,

1279
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: but that's not real.

1280
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: Well that isn't it that they're doing an impression to

1281
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: try to like to try to get in reality.

1282
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 3: Yes, so, yes, like a demon, a trickster kind of

1283
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: demon will tell you whatever you want to hear so

1284
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,959
Speaker 3: that it can have a symbiotic relationship with you, which

1285
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 3: is I'm guessing what this thing kind of was. I

1286
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: don't know. I never really like looked looked at it,

1287
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I wasn't there, so I

1288
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 3: don't know. But it doesn't really need the doll at all.

1289
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: It could be a coincidence that the demon was like, actually,

1290
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: I like the doll. I'm going to go with the

1291
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: doll like you ladies have been fun. I want to

1292
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: go with the doll.

1293
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: Well, it wouldn't surprise me that the demon was angered

1294
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: by being pulled out of that situation that it was

1295
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: comfortable in and then wanted to kind of take it

1296
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: out on whoever did that, you know what I mean?

1297
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: What about going back to what we were saying earlier,

1298
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: what if the demon was like and the Ring Warren.

1299
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not super famous now, but there's gonna be

1300
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: a movie series about this in the future.

1301
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: I want to go it's going to affect the world.

1302
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 2: Like what you're saying earlier, there's a movie franchise in

1303
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: my future. I'm going with them.

1304
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that is possible. But that is like not

1305
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: a realm walker. So the hilarious thing about that would

1306
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: be like, this is a very like self centered demon.

1307
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds a lot like the town we live in.

1308
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: I could see a demon being like I want to be.

1309
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 2: I know Warner Brothers are gonna be calling them.

1310
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's possible. Listen, what do I know? Yes,

1311
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: that is possible, because.

1312
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: It kind of seems like that could be an explanation.

1313
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 3: It could be. I mean that that's not out of

1314
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: the question. It's not okay, and I mean I love

1315
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: the Conjuring movies.

1316
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: Okay, now, wait, what about this. What if we look

1317
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: at a picture. If I pull up a picture of

1318
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: the real Annabelle, do you could you see if there's

1319
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: a demon?

1320
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 3: I can look, Okay, I can't guarantee you anything.

1321
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: See I think I have what I do have one?

1322
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: And is this supposed this picture you're about to show me?

1323
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 3: It was supposedly when it was.

1324
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1325
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't know when it was taken.

1326
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: But this is the real Annabelle with her devil Tarot card.

1327
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. I also really enjoyed

1328
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 3: the look and feel of this picture. I feel like

1329
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: you should show people this picture.

1330
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally.

1331
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 3: It's a good it's a vibe, it's cute.

1332
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: I like it. I said, I don't know what this

1333
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: lady is in the corner.

1334
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's terrifying, isn't wasn't their whole jam like

1335
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 3: they were like, this object has a spooky thing, we're

1336
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 3: gonna take it. Mm hmm. So they have some.

1337
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: Kind of history, I think, or trauma.

1338
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 3: Right, Like this object is causing you trouble, so we're

1339
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 3: just gonna take it kind of I think. So, Okay,

1340
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 3: didn't they make it like a Friday the Thirteenth series

1341
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 3: like that?

1342
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1343
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 3: Maybe someone must remember that unless I'm making this up. Okay,

1344
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this.

1345
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: Can I be honest with you, Please don't go ahead.

1346
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 3: There's nothing in that doll. Now that's not to say

1347
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: there's nothing in the room, but there's nothing in that doll.

1348
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay.

1349
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: So in other words, that makes sense to me because

1350
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 3: again it's using the doll for whatever spooky show it's making,

1351
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: but it doesn't need the doll, right like underglass isn't

1352
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: going to keep that thing from coming out? Why not?

1353
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: Because that's not how demons work. Like imagine if I

1354
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: could just be like, I'm gonna lock the door, you

1355
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: guys don't come in.

1356
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: Well, but okay, they were doing prayers over it.

1357
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that might be something, but it's still not

1358
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: in the.

1359
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 2: It'd be like the nuns and your story, like the

1360
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: keeping them keep. Could there be the power of their

1361
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: prayers and their beings being it in there?

1362
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm but the box wouldn't matter.

1363
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: Huh.

1364
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that can't do anything, because I don't

1365
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 3: know that for one hundred percent, But I'm telling you

1366
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: from looking at the picture, it's not in the doll.

1367
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: It's not in the box.

1368
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

1369
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: So whether the prayers were keeping it in whatever room

1370
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: this is, I cannot tell you. But clearly what you're

1371
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: telling me is the answer is no. Because people died

1372
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 3: after leaving.

1373
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 1: You know, some say coincidence could be a thing. I

1374
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: don't know.

1375
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: So from your experience, could a demon get exhausted? I

1376
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: mean we're talking about nineteen seventy that's like I'm not

1377
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: good at math, but I think that's what fifty two

1378
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: years or something.

1379
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 1: So yes, could it? Actually I think that was right mathoo?

1380
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: So could it be.

1381
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: Like you know what, I'm sick of this? Yes, this

1382
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 2: was fun being a raggedy a doll, well.

1383
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 3: Especially if it has to fight something. So like part

1384
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 3: of the reason, going back to celebrity exorcism, which you

1385
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 3: can watch on to be for free, for free, what

1386
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: was interesting about that entity? And I don't want to

1387
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: give too much away, that's what people watch it. But

1388
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 3: what was interesting about that entity is because the nuns

1389
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: had pushed down so much with their own energy, it

1390
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: was just stuck in the basement. But it could also

1391
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 3: walk the grounds of the house. So that's a place

1392
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: where a lot of people like to go and take

1393
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 3: a photo. They take a selfie at, like the gates's

1394
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 3: very popular because it's not really that hidden. It's pretty open,

1395
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 3: so you can walk up all day and night and

1396
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 3: take a picture there. And the entity was taking little

1397
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 3: bits out of everybody who was going up to take pictures,

1398
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 3: very small things. So if you were a person who

1399
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: took a photo there, you might have felt dizzy, you

1400
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 3: might have felt tired all of a sudden, you might

1401
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 3: have had a headach. Like that's how it was working.

1402
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: But for a demon the size an entity, the size

1403
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: of it as it was, that was not enough food.

1404
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 3: So it just, I know, I kind of did too,

1405
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: to be honest, I kind of did. It was pretty

1406
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 3: sad like, and it's been there so long and so

1407
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 3: in essence, when I went there, it was almost like

1408
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: putting it out of its misery at that point because

1409
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 3: it was tired and didn't really want to do this

1410
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: anymore and was just like over not being sustained enough.

1411
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 3: But it couldn't really do anything about it, you know

1412
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 3: what I mean. So I kind of came in and

1413
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: took care of that.

1414
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty easy.

1415
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't my most difficult like it tried. It tried

1416
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 3: to fight a little bit in the beginning, but it

1417
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 3: really was tired, it really was. And it was so

1418
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: funny because I don't know if we talked about this,

1419
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: but like so there were a bunch of guys who

1420
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 3: were doing like camera work and things on the show,

1421
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 3: on that show, and they had to be in that

1422
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: place much earlier than me. I came in basically to

1423
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: do the work and that was it. So it was

1424
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 3: really late. You know, they were in all days setting up,

1425
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 3: and what you don't see on camera because I don't

1426
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 3: know why they didn't want to show this. I think

1427
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 3: it's most interesting part of all. But whatever you know

1428
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 3: is that they were being touched and pushed and like

1429
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 3: they were feeling the entity every time they went down

1430
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: into that There's a specific space in the basement which

1431
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 3: you'll see if you watch it, like where it totally

1432
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: was the place where it was like kind of lurking.

1433
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 3: Every time they walked in there. They were like, you

1434
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 3: don't even know how many times this thing pushed me today,

1435
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: Like a lot of times. And so when I went

1436
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 3: in to do the cleansing, they like one person would

1437
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 3: follow me in through all these spaces to catch it

1438
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: to see, you know, how it went. And when we

1439
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: got to that one space, no one would come in

1440
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: with me. They were like pulling back and like pulling

1441
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: the lens. They were like, and no, we'll just hang

1442
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: out and we'll.

1443
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: Stick it in there.

1444
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: Nobody came in, so I thought that was really funny.

1445
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, here's me, like barefoot holding Magucci is like

1446
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: going through you know, doing my thing, and like the

1447
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: men are like, nope, no, I will not come in there.

1448
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: Wait. I've probably asked you this before, but like a

1449
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: demon can see you and know that you are not

1450
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: like most people.

1451
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's the problem. That's why I don't like

1452
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: to spend a lot of time in a space that

1453
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 3: holds an entity before I go to do the work.

1454
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: It can become dangerous, like shit, well, especially if there's

1455
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 3: other people in the space, that can be dangerous for them.

1456
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 3: The more that the longer it lingers and goes on,

1457
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: the worse it becomes. So it's better for me to

1458
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: come in, do the work and get out. Wow.

1459
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way for you to lie put on

1460
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 2: a disguise that they wouldn't.

1461
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's like a.

1462
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: Fake mustache and like a wig and walked in there.

1463
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never tried it, so I can't honestly

1464
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: tell you, you.

1465
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: Know, the most ridiculous ideas.

1466
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: That I'm trying to be honest, you know what you

1467
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:20,520
Speaker 3: is great.

1468
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: Don't listen to anything I have to say.

1469
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices?

1470
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean you can, but I'm terrible at this game.

1471
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: We've done this.

1472
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: I know I'll try.

1473
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: All right, let's do I haven't been here in person.

1474
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: Actually it's very different in person.

1475
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: In the zooms, it's like goes through like five different

1476
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: I know, you know, well it's trying for ev.

1477
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: Or ev plicse.

1478
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

1479
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: All right.

1480
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: This first one, I'm not really sure of the location,

1481
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: but it is from Para Sarah. Okay too, all right?

1482
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: Fun name, Yeah, I like it.

1483
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying.

1484
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 3: Sort of sounds like I'm so sexy?

1485
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,440
Speaker 2: I'm so sexy?

1486
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: It really is.

1487
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be an option.

1488
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's not one of the options I have here.

1489
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: It's not what they believe.

1490
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, of these options? Is it A?

1491
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: This ghost wants attention?

1492
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 3: Oh?

1493
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: Is it B? This is close to danger?

1494
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: Is it C?

1495
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: I will if you get close.

1496
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 2: I'll punish you. Or D whoops, there goes my dentures. Okay,

1497
01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: here we go.

1498
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm very close to saying dy, there

1499
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: goes my dentures. I don't think that's right.

1500
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: I think it is. What's there goes my dentures.

1501
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 3: You hear it, I hear it.

1502
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: I hear all of them.

1503
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: I also hear this ghost wants attention.

1504
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: I can hear the attention. Yeah, I mean maybe it's not.

1505
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: Well.

1506
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 2: What Parisara believes it is is this is close to danger.

1507
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: I can hear that.

1508
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: I guess, so this is close to danger.

1509
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: That was having a good time.

1510
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: M don't threaten me with a good time and the

1511
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: good dangers.

1512
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:49,440
Speaker 3: I have voltage.

1513
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 2: What about this next one? This is from cp E

1514
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: a R group which stands for Connecticut Paranormal Encounters and

1515
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,879
Speaker 2: re Search. Okay, And this is a new news bistro

1516
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 2: in Colchester, Colchester, Okay, Connecticut.

1517
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: What is it saying this is a different kind than

1518
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: that last one? What is that.

1519
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 3: Someone's having fun? That's what that is?

1520
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: Order in major agony.

1521
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds more like fun than agony.

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: Is me? Okay?

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01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 3: Watch all the answers are like I'm in terrible pain,

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: I'm suffering.

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01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: Any guesses.

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 3: I mean it's to me it sounds like just someone's

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: like I don't know, having like a yeah, just like

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01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 3: having a good time, like oh boy.

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: Now there's the lead act or performer or ghost here

1530
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 2: that's saying no no. But then there's something in the background.

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01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: For a second, listen to this.

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01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like making a noise.

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01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: What is that?

1534
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 3: It's a man and his cat.

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01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it might be.

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01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 2: Okay, here's some options. Is it a gorgeous queen?

1537
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: Is it B go get money?

1538
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: Is it C go home Sunny or d oh no Sacy? Okay,

1539
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: here we go.

1540
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean I think they probably think it's s.

1541
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 2: Go home Sonny. Yeah, that is what they think. Okay,

1542
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: I hear it go Yeah, I hear.

1543
01:17:54,880 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 3: It is anybody named Sonny maybe at New News bistro

1544
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 3: they have. I think that needs a backstory.

1545
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: I know I couldn't find much, but anyway, well, I

1546
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: guess that's it.

1547
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, I guess we're down there.

1548
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 2: What we'll do here for today? Thank you for doing this?

1549
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me, of course.

1550
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: So let's tell people you're now on TikTok.

1551
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the first time ever, because I'm really behind

1552
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 3: the times, I'm on TikTok our Stavis. I'm giving it

1553
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,919
Speaker 3: a try. Sure on Instagram rig Davis Twitter urg Stavis

1554
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 3: take off. I mean, I hope. So what we're doing

1555
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 3: on what I'm hoping to do with that TikTok, that's

1556
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: a little different from everything else, is teaching people how

1557
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: to do things in small videos, you know, like how

1558
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 3: to protect yourself, what you should be burning in your house,

1559
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 3: you know, what our entity? What's attachment like talking communicating

1560
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: with your deceased loved ones, which everyone can do, they

1561
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: just don't know they can do it, you know, little

1562
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: snippets of things like, you know, helping people just kind

1563
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: of get back to spirit.

1564
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1565
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: And then of course The Store of Darkness is in

1566
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 3: bookstores and soon to be on the TVs.

1567
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 1: Yes, we talked about that last time here.

1568
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: Your book is being adapted, Your life is being adapted

1569
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: into a TV show.

1570
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, so there we're working on that now and

1571
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll be able to tell you all about it

1572
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: like big time soon. And then Celebrity Exorcism is on

1573
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: TV and it's perfect for the spooky season.

1574
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Okay, Well, I guess that's it.

1575
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 3: All right. Well, I had a great time.

1576
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1577
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: There's no demons in here.

1578
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: Good. I will again. I'll call you if there ever

1579
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 1: is one.

1580
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 3: I expect it that.

1581
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: From me talking shit about demons.

1582
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: That would be I guess on me if you do so,

1583
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, let me know.

1584
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: It's just me trying to hang out with you. I'm

1585
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: just going to do that. There's a demon in here

1586
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: just to see how quickly you'll come over. It's really

1587
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: just me I need help doing something around my house.

1588
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 3: You're just gonna be like, hey, do you want to

1589
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 3: like go get like Panda Express.

1590
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a demon at the Panda Express.

1591
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 2: I need you to get down here as needs alone.

1592
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Rachel Stavis our h Stavis.

1593
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: I love her so much. She is such a powerful

1594
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: human being. You should check out her book, follow her

1595
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: on her TikTok, do all that stuff. Go listen back

1596
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: to the other two times she was on. It was

1597
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: in October of twenty twenty one, and then no October

1598
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,839
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty and then I believe it was August

1599
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one. So check those out. Tell your

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01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:58,000
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1601
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Speaker 2: leave a nice review if you want. It's real easy

1602
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: just to leave a five stars. You don't even have

1603
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,880
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1604
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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, you could leave a ghost story in a

1605
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: five star review. You can send one to me at

1606
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 2: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

1607
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: If you want to be.

1608
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 2: In a listener episode, do that. Give me some bullet

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Speaker 2: points of your stories right listener episode in the subject line.

1610
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: And oh, I'm posting a lot of videos these days

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Speaker 2: on my Instagram and TikTok, So check out my Instagram

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Speaker 2: at raz Hernandez TikTok and Twitter at It's raz Hernandez.

1613
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: I love you all, both living and dead.

1614
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

1615
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: haunt me. Heay back

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Speaker 3: Star a podcast network