WEBVTT - Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning Reactions 

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<v Speaker 1>What today's today's episode getting spoilers for Mission Impossible? The

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<v Speaker 1>final recording? Can this movie be spoiled?

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<v Speaker 2>How could you spoil? I don't know. I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 2>find out. I guess we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 1>What it is, Jasconcepcio And on Wesday Night and welcome

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<v Speaker 3>Plus in the allo we are reckoning with Mission Impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>Then mabe, wait a minute, We've got double omnibus.

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<v Speaker 2>How did this happen?

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<v Speaker 3>I will be talking about Final Reckoning one and Final Day.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be reckoning with the action set pieces of

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<v Speaker 3>the franchise and the history of how Mission Impossible went

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<v Speaker 3>from a saucy, edgy political thriller by Brian de Palmer

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<v Speaker 3>to an insane action set piece franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jason will be omnibusing about.

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<v Speaker 1>How the television show evolved over the course of several decades,

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<v Speaker 1>with an original run through the seventies, A reboot in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties to its final form as a film franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it all, right, Rosie. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let me say this, I saw an a possible final

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<v Speaker 1>reckoning last night. I thought I was seeing it imax.

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<v Speaker 1>I accidentally bought a ticket for four DX the Regal

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<v Speaker 1>Live Downtown, La Live, Baby, where it's all happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, Rosie, barely fucking survive. How's how's

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<v Speaker 1>your back doing well? First of all, F one. The

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<v Speaker 1>trailer for F one legitimately almost bucked me out of

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<v Speaker 1>my seat into the front row, and I was hanging

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<v Speaker 1>on for dear life for much of this movie. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>X is in like you are a psychotic human being

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like, get me into forty X now, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is basically how most kids like to watch movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the only way that we can like

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<v Speaker 3>trap them into watching like a full length feature and

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<v Speaker 3>needs a seatbelt.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs a seat belt. I the only screening I

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<v Speaker 2>could get into for Gladiator two, which we discussed.

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<v Speaker 3>On a previous episode, was also forty X. Bro without

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<v Speaker 3>like stabbing people in the back. I'm getting punched in

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<v Speaker 3>the back.

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<v Speaker 2>The sharks are spraying water on me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was awful, the water, the vapor, the sickening vapor of.

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<v Speaker 1>You can turn it off, so it's just like an

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<v Speaker 1>er jet, but it's still troubling.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta ask you before we get into our full reactions,

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<v Speaker 3>like this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Is edited so tropily. How was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you how did you survive.

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<v Speaker 3>The several cuts there are, so I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 3>my the version that I got in this in the

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<v Speaker 3>version was like ja haja chu chu chut cha, Like

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<v Speaker 3>how scary was that?

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<v Speaker 2>In the forty X was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was saying for the action, what was the

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<v Speaker 3>worst part when it was reaction the super when you

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<v Speaker 3>were in the submarine, because that was stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuts, So in the submarine it was mostly I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>this the film and whoever sinks the acts of forty

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<v Speaker 1>X actions, they do a good job of, like of

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<v Speaker 1>leveling you up. They don't just you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just like dropping you into the most insane like forty

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<v Speaker 1>X movements, which is the problem with the f one trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>the one trailer immediately and yeah, you're just like blown

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<v Speaker 1>back in your seat. You can feel the tires of

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<v Speaker 1>the car and it's just too much for final reckoning.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like a a staggered build, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could so For the submarine section, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of spray. Every time Ethan is opening another hatch

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<v Speaker 1>to go to another section of the sub, you're getting sprayed.

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<v Speaker 1>And as the sub begins to roll into the trench,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're getting this kind of slow, kind of sickening

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<v Speaker 1>movement of the chairs back and forth combined with the spraying.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then for the plane, it's just like hold on

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<v Speaker 1>for dear life. Like I was bracing my legs against

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<v Speaker 1>the against the foot pad, like really like holding on.

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<v Speaker 2>Tip me out.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, by this point it was like one in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>because the movie is like three hours long.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it keeps you awake, like I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to world, in which I would have I might have

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<v Speaker 1>fallen asleep, but this absolutely keeps you on your p's

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<v Speaker 1>and q's. To your point about the edding, this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm gonna start with the positives, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Okay, let's go to reactions and start.

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<v Speaker 1>With let's start the positive set pieces I think are

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately some of them, like the sub is I thought

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful, very suspenseful, and weird in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to put your finger on. Like, this movie is weird,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of like it. There are portions of

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<v Speaker 1>it where if this had been a quote unquote normal movie,

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<v Speaker 1>normal action film, as done by Brad Bird or one

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<v Speaker 1>of the previous people to helm a mission impossible franchise

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<v Speaker 1>JJ Abrams, then there would be long sections of very

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<v Speaker 1>very boring like dialogue about bullshit and Ethan's past and

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<v Speaker 1>the people he is connected within his past and all

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<v Speaker 1>these I mean, the flashbacks in this movie are probably

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half of them at least at least,

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a weirdness throughout that makes it those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dead moments strangely compelling, you know, in a this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is bad but interesting kind of way. My personal

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<v Speaker 1>theory is that five years since you know, top Gun,

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<v Speaker 1>Maverick and Covid era of the industry basically saying Tom Cruise,

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<v Speaker 1>save us, save the industry, save Hollywood, Tom Cruise, only

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<v Speaker 1>you can save it, Only you can do it. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>has like has like completely by osmosis filled his being,

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<v Speaker 1>so that this movie is very strangely messianic.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's very much like he is Jesus the franchise

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<v Speaker 3>or Hollywood unclear, but either and both.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole movie is like, uh, we have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like no one has the strength or the courage to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the AI because everybody thinks they can control it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ethan Ethan's the only one who wants to destroy it,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody is trying to talk him out of destroying

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<v Speaker 1>Grace is like, are you shouldn't really want to destroy it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know that? The president is like we need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is telling him, don't destroy it. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>get to the end place where he's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I can actually control it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He's like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got ye me, I'm the one person they can control it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously if you're listening to this, you're probably like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe you guys are not doing a recap.

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<v Speaker 2>Impossible movie to recap guys, I just don't say.

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<v Speaker 1>There's barely any place.

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<v Speaker 3>There's literally there's literally no way you could recap it

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<v Speaker 3>because too much happens and nothing happens, and most of

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<v Speaker 3>that happens nothing in too much at the same time, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and most of what happens is just flashbacks to other movies. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say I was I was on an

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<v Speaker 3>emotional rollercoaster during this movie because it started and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what is going on. Then by the time it

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<v Speaker 2>got to.

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<v Speaker 3>The credits, like twenty minutes in, and it was like

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<v Speaker 3>an insane hundred people plus credits with like tiny little

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<v Speaker 3>chopped and changed parts of the movie, I was like, oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe this is like a camp masterpiece. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>was like nope, I don't know what's going on. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I was like camp masterpiece. And then I was

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<v Speaker 3>like insane stunts? Is this movie bad?

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<v Speaker 2>It is true a unique experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's unbelievable that this movie got released in

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<v Speaker 3>the way that it did because there is no other

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<v Speaker 3>movie like this where you have like forty five and

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<v Speaker 3>this fluss of recapping.

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<v Speaker 2>This feels kind of like a TV show.

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<v Speaker 3>They've had a lot of success in the last few

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<v Speaker 3>years with these like religious TV series called The Chosen

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<v Speaker 3>and every few months whenever there's like a religious holiday,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll release a few episodes as a movie, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>been very popular. I felt like that was what I

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<v Speaker 3>was watching, like I was watching a TV series that

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<v Speaker 3>they had, like were trying to plunge into a movie

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<v Speaker 3>to try and kind of finish it off. It was

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely insane. I was also very confused because I just

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<v Speaker 3>do feel like the last movie, the first half of

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<v Speaker 3>this movie was at least like a normal three act structure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>compared to this this Like I kept being like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to I've got to go home and just

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<v Speaker 3>immediately watch seven and see what it feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>And it did feel a lot more traditional than this film.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is, I do like I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the ambitious swing of just being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>here is a completely almost abstract movie like The Villain.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's almost like two thousand and one Space on

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. So that's really what I was reminded of.

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<v Speaker 1>There's long stretches where no one speaks and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing like weird vistas and underwater stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I was It's like, when I was watching the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>I do, I was thinking about this conversation, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Okay, what is your I need to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go back with the little like timer

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<v Speaker 3>in my pocket, But like, what was your estimation for.

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<v Speaker 2>How much of the movie has no dialogue, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's probably at least forty to

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<v Speaker 1>forty five percent of the movie. I agree no dialogue.

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<v Speaker 3>It's at these long shots where everyone is like looking

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<v Speaker 3>at each other, very art house inspired. But then the

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<v Speaker 3>other fifty five percent is just people explaining stuff. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing I think is strangest about this movie is

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<v Speaker 3>everything is over explained to a point where by the

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<v Speaker 3>end it feels like you're going slightly like into a spiral.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like hypnotized by being hypnotized by the a exposition,

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<v Speaker 3>Like everyone has to explain at every point everything that's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that was an exact choice. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that was I don't feel like that's

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<v Speaker 3>ever a writer's choice.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was a lot of tell do not show.

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<v Speaker 3>They would be like, Okay, then you gotta put this

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<v Speaker 3>suit on, then you gotta go all the way down,

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<v Speaker 3>then you gotta do this, then you're gotta do that,

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<v Speaker 3>and they bring in, you know, incredibly talented and beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>actress Katie O'Brien to explain to him how to use

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<v Speaker 3>a diving suit.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Okay, and I want to talking about

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to talk about Katie O'Brien, whose character has

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<v Speaker 1>no name, no US diver.

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<v Speaker 2>How crazy is so.

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<v Speaker 1>To kind of give you an idea about how strange,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you talked about it. There's all these scenes

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<v Speaker 1>where everybody's just like looking at each other with these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of inscrutable looks on their face, and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like connect on an emotional level and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. So Ethan dives into the Northern Pacific.

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<v Speaker 1>This is off of helicopter and these divers e merged

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<v Speaker 1>from the sub, including Katie O'Brien, and they bring him

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<v Speaker 1>down to the sub which is captained by Trammel Tillman

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Jack Bloodson and who does get a name? Cool, right?

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<v Speaker 1>He is wonderful. And so there's this one part where

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<v Speaker 1>like there they've got Ethan in this hot shower to

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<v Speaker 1>like raise his body temperature. He's sitting there with his

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<v Speaker 1>shirt off in this hot shower and Kay o brian

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<v Speaker 1>is like sitting behind him as if she's a about

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<v Speaker 1>to soap his back and.

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<v Speaker 2>Shies. He tries to get day.

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<v Speaker 1>And this we in this very like motherly thing which

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<v Speaker 1>is like we've talked about this weird theme of like

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<v Speaker 1>all these women in these movies who just like want

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<v Speaker 1>to take the everyone wants to take care of Ethan

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<v Speaker 1>like a child, and they were just and she, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she does this stick where she's like, no, stick.

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<v Speaker 2>You like you have to get you an inscrutable chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>So when he leaves, she.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost kids him, and then she's like and then she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, take care of my suit, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>he like chops the pieces that does not just cuts

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<v Speaker 3>it off because he's like a superhero. But like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's so many moments. I will say the one thing

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<v Speaker 3>I did really like because like when they were doing

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<v Speaker 3>a flashback at the beginning of all the different women

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<v Speaker 3>that Ethan Hunt like has loved and has fucked, then

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<v Speaker 3>who want to fuck Ethan Hunt? They didn't leave out Jack,

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<v Speaker 3>the old lady from Mission Impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>He has some of the best chemistry with him. So

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<v Speaker 2>I apprecia Max. Yeah, Max, Yeah, that was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean where that's really where it all began for

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<v Speaker 1>this particular thing. Yeah, but there's all these weird things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and so many scenes of just people like

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<v Speaker 1>around a table, jaw clenched, like scaring at each other

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<v Speaker 1>so intensely, and they hold on these shots where you're

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<v Speaker 1>like what is this?

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<v Speaker 3>You're like okay, And I mean obviously like to me,

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<v Speaker 3>every time Angela Bassetts in the movie is like more enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 3>So I like that she was the one that they

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<v Speaker 3>had president President. Now she was the one who they

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<v Speaker 3>had to do the first recap And may I say,

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<v Speaker 3>there are multiple recaps of other Mission Impo movies in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is absolutely deranged. Were you do I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of love it? Maybe I can't really. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>where I stand on this film, I think, like I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote my.

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<v Speaker 3>Letter boxed review, was like I felt like Zoe Kravitz

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<v Speaker 3>in the finale of this Studio. No, it truly is

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<v Speaker 3>what that is like the moment when she's like she

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<v Speaker 3>like is like, oh my god, Matt, You're back, thank God,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she turns just like the Seth Bergen character

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<v Speaker 3>and she's like, I was like trapped in a forest

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<v Speaker 3>and then I realized I was the forest and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out of it and I'm so glad you're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do the presentation and he's like, it's been thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>That was me. The whole way through this movie, I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like it was seven hours long, Like she was enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I didn't leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was memorable. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your reaction when the credit stinger finally comes

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<v Speaker 1>across the screen thirty minutes into the film. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, what. I know, we were just getting

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<v Speaker 1>into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Suddenly hears like the thewse longer than and the vision

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<v Speaker 4>impossible like.

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<v Speaker 2>Las God bless Lalla Schiffrin.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we've talked about this a lot, but like this,

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<v Speaker 3>I do truly believe this franchise would not exist if

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't have such a bang of soundtrack, a bang

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<v Speaker 3>of score by Lollo Shiffrin.

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<v Speaker 2>But like that was the moment where I was like, minute,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Because also, like the credits have so many main like

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<v Speaker 3>title actors in them, and it's orange, and then they're

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<v Speaker 3>like blowing through all these crazy images of everything that's

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<v Speaker 3>happened in Mission Impossible before, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you could just trust the audience a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more. I will say, I think I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest problem is I don't know obviously people like me.

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<v Speaker 3>They treat them all and we know what's happening. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying everyone's going into it with that level,

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<v Speaker 3>but like movies have traditionally done this, like Karate Kid,

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<v Speaker 3>the sequels to Karate Kid, they usually begin with like

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<v Speaker 3>a five minute recap, but our twenty five minute recap,

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<v Speaker 3>and not multiple recaps, because throughout the movie they're consistently

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<v Speaker 3>saying stuff like, oh, Ethan Hunt, he did that Langley

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<v Speaker 3>break in?

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<v Speaker 2>And then they go back and they show you the

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<v Speaker 2>break in from Langley.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, I will say William donnaghue coming back, who was

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<v Speaker 3>the don Low thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Who was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy that they you know, gave diarrhea to break into Langley?

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<v Speaker 3>Him coming back as like a major force in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't expecting that. Love that part.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. He was like, Ethan, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>ruining my life.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, I loved living in this cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved that you ruined my life and got me

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<v Speaker 1>sent to Alaska or wherever the fuck this is because

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<v Speaker 1>now I've I've found my my wife and life partner

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<v Speaker 1>to Pisa, and I've found the meaning of life in

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<v Speaker 1>this like desolate cabin.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and then by the way, thanks for fucking

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<v Speaker 3>burning it down before you go, because that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually going well.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, Aaron makes a great point. They recapped

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<v Speaker 3>many things in this movie didn't make it in. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't recap the diarrhea. They recapped them giving him food poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, enough, I have a There's so many also,

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<v Speaker 1>like weird threads that I'm like, did that happen? I

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<v Speaker 1>have Okay, I'm gonna lay out the weird threads. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>discuss them. And then I have a theory to drop

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<v Speaker 1>on you, like like Luthor having terminal illness and then dying.

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<v Speaker 1>That felt like that came out of what the sky?

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<v Speaker 1>Where did that come from? Like players, First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>they like you know, Ethan strolls out of like the

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<v Speaker 1>subway through like this massive protest, and then like meets

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<v Speaker 1>up with Benji and they go to like some safety.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just say something, it's a problem that they

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<v Speaker 3>have a spot that they always return to. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>if I was if I was, you know, a nemesis

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<v Speaker 3>of some kind, that would be where I would kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>So they go there and Luther's there working on stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get no hint that he's ill, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the next time you see him in the Seine, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like on his deathbed, like in a hospital bed. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>did I like blackout and not something?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he dying?

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<v Speaker 3>Is actually very true that nobody understand this. It is

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<v Speaker 3>unclear that this was not something that was brought up

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<v Speaker 3>in a previous movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is like, why did this happen?

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was literally went on Reddit straight away

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<v Speaker 3>and was like, wait, how does this?

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<v Speaker 2>How does this happen? I'm guessing that like they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Have like I guess the poison pill, maybe making it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea this was like ranged like making

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<v Speaker 3>the ive D drive. Sometimes nobody seems to know. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't specify at any point, and I guess maybe because

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<v Speaker 3>he was sick, they maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it less bad that he doesn't well.

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<v Speaker 3>Also as well, let's speak about this moment, because so

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<v Speaker 3>that he gets trapped in the weird underground like lair

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<v Speaker 3>where Gabriel's made this mini verse of the bomb that

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna use later and he's like, it's gonna bomb us.

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<v Speaker 3>But I need to understand. You guys have like broken

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<v Speaker 3>into the FBI had where were you guys tunnels on

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<v Speaker 3>the London.

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<v Speaker 2>They just decided to exists. But they also like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't suddenly you just can't get him out of like

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<v Speaker 2>a metal cage. I don't believe it. Tom, somebody get

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<v Speaker 2>a blowtor. All he did was just broke it with

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<v Speaker 2>a rock.

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<v Speaker 3>He just broke the look off, like I have seen

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise do crazy things in this movie, and now

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<v Speaker 3>you're telling me he's just not gonna says.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a movie in this very movie. He He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have uh oh, I have lock picks in my

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<v Speaker 1>watch and my and my cufflings, Like where's that stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Another weird moment, Hunt and Grace are capture. They go

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<v Speaker 1>to like some party. The world is falling apart, but

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<v Speaker 1>all the spies are having this massive like opera party,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's that like the top spies in Cut and

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel are just gonna go to has to go to this.

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<v Speaker 3>They say it in like the un or something, but

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<v Speaker 3>the British Embassy, but it's actually the Natural History Museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you used to up right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so even though like the AI is threatening the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the world is falling apart, there's like a nuclear crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>The entity has a cult like everything's going sideways, all

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<v Speaker 1>like the top spies and diplomats are like, let's have

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<v Speaker 1>a party. They have a party and even goes to

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<v Speaker 1>this surely one of the most recognizable spies like ever

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<v Speaker 1>And is.

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<v Speaker 2>Any one of those mosques. I have to say, not

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<v Speaker 2>enough mission impossible mosques in.

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<v Speaker 3>This movie, whereas I come on, Ethan, you couldn't wear

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<v Speaker 3>a most like moments, I was like, he's somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>pull off a masque, and they say so.

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<v Speaker 1>Grace shows up and they both get captured you know

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<v Speaker 1>by who, like I guess by the Entity, by Gabriel's people,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gabriel by this point is like kind of not

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<v Speaker 1>working with the entity or whatever. So they're about to

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<v Speaker 1>get tortured. Ethan wakes up. He's chained to a chair.

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<v Speaker 1>He says like, I don't have my watch and on

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<v Speaker 1>my cufflings on my lock picks. He says to Grace,

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Grace, it's only pain. Just tell yourself it's only

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<v Speaker 1>it's pain.

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<v Speaker 2>You could get through it.

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<v Speaker 1>What okay? This is psychic.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually leads into one of the best weirdest moments

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<v Speaker 3>of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 3>So they escape, but what they decide to do is,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than showing us like a sick action sequence, we

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<v Speaker 3>get about thirty seconds of that. And I have to say,

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<v Speaker 3>for a mission a possible movie, there is not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of action in this film. And there is not

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of set pieces. There's only like two major

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<v Speaker 3>set pieces, which is big though, and the longest one

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<v Speaker 3>is like twenty five minutes long, and it's very impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>But they basically they break out. Good for them.

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<v Speaker 3>But then they do an incredibly strange choice that I

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 3>still can't quite work out, where they have the camera

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<v Speaker 3>framed on Captain Carter aka Grace his face and they

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<v Speaker 3>have it there for like twenty seconds as even.

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<v Speaker 2>The hills every it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Tunes and also very like it's her face is so

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<v Speaker 3>horrified by what she's seeing and you're hearing all this choice.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he cuts back, he's been killing these people

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<v Speaker 2>with a meat cleaver.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a meat clean sticking out of the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>The two guys are piled on top of.

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<v Speaker 2>It, okay, and he's like, they were gonna kill you.

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<v Speaker 3>But that felt like to me that would be something

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<v Speaker 3>that they would play into late or she wouldn't trust

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<v Speaker 3>him or she thought he was too violent, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just a random bit that they did.

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<v Speaker 1>So weird, very strange choices. Okay, final, final, super weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing hunt And what I think is maybe my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>segment of the of the movie is the sub infiltration

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<v Speaker 1>and escape and so Ethan is escaping.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is really weird. But really again.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is the most two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 1>like final thirty minutes of two thousand and one part

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<v Speaker 1>of a summer blockbuster, like ever, maybe no words at all,

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<v Speaker 1>all action, very weird visuals like they they mentioned, you know,

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Katie O'Brien's unnamed us divers tells him, listen, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>experience like mental like psychosis and weird things and pain,

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and so they there is a brief there's these brief

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<v Speaker 1>moments where he like sees one of the dead sailors

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 1>like pointing to him, but that and it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>And also it looks like they've got some kind of

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 3>growth on them, so it looks almost like fungal and

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 3>they kind of play into that kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>The weirdest they came out doesn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't that do like a fifteen minute explanation of how

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous it is for him to do this dive in

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<v Speaker 3>this suit and all the reasons he has to follow

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<v Speaker 3>the rules and wear the suit.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he like immediately just cuts the suit off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just like like six hundred feet underwater. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So this brings me to my final very very strange.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ethan cuts the suit off, exits the sub which

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<v Speaker 1>is rolling down a trench through the torpedo tube, and

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<v Speaker 1>with difficulty, swims hundreds of feet five hundred plus feet

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>six hundred and seven hundred feet to the surface, experiencing

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the bends the whole time is like the gas you know,

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the gas bubbles expanded in his body and he he

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>comes up like fifty feet short and drowns.

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 2>But then they predicted what's gonna happen.

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>But then like because he's got that like little tracker

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>on him, they don't show it. But he wakes up

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:36.719
<v Speaker 1>in the pressurization and the mobile pressurization chamber that Grace

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and Tapisa had like rode out on the sled out there,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>and he wakes up there and there, and she's in it,

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and she's in it. She's in it. I guess you

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>could just be in it if you didn't go underwater.

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>She's in it with him, and she wakes up. He

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>wakes up in her arms, and they're like the light

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>of love is shining on them and to pieces like

0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>looking in through the glass smiling this tific smile. So

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>here is my theory. This entire movie is the death

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>throws of Ethan Hunt as he drowns. He all of

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>these flashbacks, all of this exposition is his life flashing

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>before his eyes as he fails to make the surface

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and dies, and then it's unclear to me if he

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>if he actually lives. I think he dies right there.

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I like that a lot.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.479
<v Speaker 3>I think that makes a lot of sense, especially because

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 3>from hairing out, everything gets like very super heroic, like

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 3>he finishes everything, everyone survives.

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Everyone is saying, Benji makes it. You know, he makes it.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 3>The new kid makes makes and it seems like they're

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 3>setting up like a pum clementy Benji relationship.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe. Also, that's another thing that I will say about

0:27:59.200 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 2>this movie.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 3>It establishes multiple things where I feel like there could

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 3>have been a way to explain it, but they do

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 3>so much explanation, but then they don't. So for example,

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 3>early on in this movie. Something we have not mentioned

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 3>yet is that so that he can be in control

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 3>or at least in conversation with the AI, which the

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 3>early half of the movie like constantly just shows like

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>a computer music visualizer type version of this AI for

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 3>like ten to fifteen.

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Minutes on the screen talking to Ethan. It's surreal. It's

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>incredibly surreal.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 3>But like during that moment, Ethan puts on this like

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 3>scary AI helmet and goes in a scary AI box

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 3>costant kind of like a coffin that kind of show,

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 3>and Pom says, it will change you.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna change you.

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>So he gets in that AI shows him the truth

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 3>of the world kind of like he's Ultron, and I

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, okay, well then they can use that

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 3>to just explain why he can do anything for the

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 3>rest of the movie, because he's basically like right, and

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 3>he's like half AI half human, and they don't do it.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 3>They don't do it, just they just get him out

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 3>and then they're.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, Okay, he's out, like you seem AI, And I'm like,

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 2>what is going on?

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like my original letterbox review was gonna

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 3>be like I need the tofa Grace cut, and I

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 3>do stand by that because I want to see there

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 3>is a ninety.

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Agree to two hours of this movie.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Movie way more like the original Mission Impossibles we've seen.

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have all the insane flashbacks, it doesn't have

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 3>the constant reuse of old footage, It probably doesn't have

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 3>as much of the AI visualizer, And I think there's

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>something that would be really interesting in that.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Movie that feels a lot more akin to.

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>An like a traditional maybe early Mission Impossible movie. But

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 3>in its current status it is one of the stranger

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 3>films of the year.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.959
<v Speaker 2>And in that way, I kind of like, good, good on.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Yeah, I'd rather see a very weird bad movie

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>than a flat out bad movie. One more thing, and

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>then we'll move on to the Omnibus. I to the Omnibi,

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the entity terrible villain what even it doesn't make any

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>sense because, first of all, Carbons omnibussy. First of all,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>because the AI is like never even involved enough to

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>be a be an effective foil for Ethan and then Gabriel,

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>same thing is just not around until the very end

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>of I feel really.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Really weird that they the AI is so omnipo omnipotent

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 3>and they have it like take over the nuclear arsenal

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, which actually honestly feels like a very overdone

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.479
<v Speaker 3>trope for this movie where they're doing so much weird stuff,

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 3>But like, why isn't the AI just like we see

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>at the beginning that there's this AI doomstay call never

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 3>mentioned again, by the way, which I thought was interesting

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 3>part of the movie. And they also mentioned like the

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 3>AI is changing stuff, so people are.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you? Did you so when when Hunt

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>gets attacked by the other unnamed US diver, I perceived

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>that as this is one of the entities.

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, me too.

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 3>It was just like he must love the cult, he

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 3>must he must love the entity or whatever.

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.959
<v Speaker 2>But they never really explain.

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Aaron said, the BB Report is sharing all the videos

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 3>of the cult. Come on, Aaron, But like it's one

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.479
<v Speaker 3>of those things where I was just there was a

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 3>lot of threads that they introduced that I felt like

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 3>could have helped push the narrative along, Like if the

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>AI is so powerful, we could have seen it kind

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 3>of play around with the public perception of IMF or

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Hunt or anything. But instead it just doesn't just talk

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 3>about the AI, just like take over the nuclear weapons

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>and then just waits behind to basically disarm it. It's

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>it's truly very strange.

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>And our film.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 3>And I was in the movie feeling like it was

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 3>much longer than it was, which is I mean, I

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 3>love I love.

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>The movies, movies, movies, movies. Me and Jason paid to go.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And see this movie.

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 3>We love you and I we love we love cinema,

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 3>we love porn. We apparently love forty X now, so

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess see to the movies.

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I watch six K.

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I would watch that in forty X definitely that would

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 3>be terrifying. And I just I this was such an

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 3>unexpectedly strange experience.

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I went to see it, uh at the local AMC

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and in me it was Bargain Tuesday of Love that day.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 3>But like there's there's the del Ammo Maull which was full,

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 3>like every single one was full. And and usually it

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>goes between our there or the other theater, which one's

0:32:58.760 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>going to be full.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>And our one was not full.

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 3>And I honestly just can't imagine what it would have

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 3>been like to see that in a full theater, Like

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 3>were people stoked about it?

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Like when don Low appeared where they like, no.

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>One seemed to like no one seemed to clock that

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>no one got the reference, and they don't tell you

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>until they're on the plane leaving the island, like they've

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>got through all this stuff before he's it's like, oh

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you're that, yeah, remember me?

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>They have other people say it.

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 3>But the other thing that I find really funny is

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie. Part of this Watching this movie

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 3>did feel like to me that some execs somewhere had

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 3>like watched a lot of MCU movies, didn't understand the

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Easter eggs and was felt like annoyed.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>That they didn't understand them. So they were like, you

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 2>know what people.

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Really want, They want to every reference explained. When somebody

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 3>shows up, you better reference how they were in the

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 3>other movies and why this is a reference, and like

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 3>what they been up to it.

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm.

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Interested to see if there's obviously Chris mcquarie and Tom

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Cruise I think have final cut on these things.

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that I like, I think Tom has

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah.

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that there's a world where there's like

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 3>a different cut they wish was released, but it was

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 3>giving a blade Runner with the narration to me, like

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I would love to see a non exposition, non flashback

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 3>version that just allowed it to be abstract and weird

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 3>and all about these crazy set pieces. Like I will say,

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 3>for whatever my feelings are about the quality of the movie.

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 3>The end like forty five minutes of this movie with

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the sub escape and then the crazy plane biplane drama

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 3>that was kind of like the end of Porco Rosso,

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 3>but like live action. It was I was at the

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 3>edge of my seat, stoice thrilling, Like it was really thrilling.

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>It made me feel.

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Like how everyone else says they feel when they watch

0:34:58.320 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Uncle John's.

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 5>Like when I hunka Charms, I was just like vibe in.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 5>I was like, this is a great movie, Like I

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 5>love this, Like fuck, this guy is like so bad

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 5>at doing everything.

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 3>This is so much fun to watch. But everyone else

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, it gave me an anxiety attack. By

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>the end of that movie, I was sitting in my

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 3>chair forwards with my hands on my head, like what

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 3>are you doing, Tom Cruise, Like I.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Was stressed watching him biplanes.

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I know he didn't do it, and then you know what,

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 3>at the end he was like boom, I'm still alive.

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm back with all my pals in Trafalgar Square, London,

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 3>which if anybody watched the security cameras here would know this.

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Is where we would meet. And then we're all just

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:37.959
<v Speaker 2>gonna walk off.

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 3>And also, okay, let me ask you this before we

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 3>go to the Omnibus City. The last like hour of

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 3>this movie is definitely just well, honestly most of the movie,

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 3>because Katie O'Brien falls into this too, is just them

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 3>like being like, who's gonna be the next mission impossible?

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Who's on eight fifty different teams?

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Who who's your most likely to take over from Tom

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Cruise character in a Mission impossible, requel, reboot, whatever they

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 3>decide next, because it feels like that's what they're trying

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 3>to sell.

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I don't know who's going to take over.

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody currently in the franchise is going

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 1>to be the takeover person. I think they'll probably bring

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>in somebody new to truly take me Ethan hunt Roll,

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>but I believe the team will include Benji Grace Dega, Yeah,

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he definitely.

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I think Tom Cruise met the act while they were

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 3>doing Top Gun.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I was like, I was very confused as

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>why Dega was like at the prisoner move of Para anyway,

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 1>like why was why was he used?

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 3>He used to be Sia Wighams like right bod, but

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 3>then he turned onto the the no rules part of IMF.

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Which is the party most of it.

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>So I think Paris Clementief will be part of it,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and then and then maybe came.

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I feel like they set up Katie O'Brien

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 3>as a potential, like she's an incredible stump person. We've

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 3>seen her an incredible kind of rolls everything.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 2>From at Man Quantumania to Love Life's Bleeding.

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I love that movie so much, like it's such a

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 3>weird movie, just like this.

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, another deeply weird movie. And this.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 3>I just think it's like an intriguing space to leave

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 3>the franchise because they acted like it was going to

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 3>be a goodbye to Ethan Hunt, but it doesn't seem

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 3>like it was unless your theory is true, and I

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>love your theory, where this is basically just him imagining

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 3>what happens after he dies, and the best case scenario,

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 3>like the world doesn't all shoot its nukes to each us,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 3>like I.

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Said, I did it.

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 3>I see the world I did kind of think it

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 3>was funny that and this is I think a problem,

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 3>a mission impossible problem here is that.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Angela Bassett, who I love.

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 3>She did as they say, do the thing, as always,

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 3>she did the thing, but like they have her make

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.919
<v Speaker 3>a decision that was like, it feels like you've seen

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>it before where it's like she's not gonna shoot the nukes.

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like, Okay, I've seen that in the Dark Night.

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 3>I've seen that in like a million other movies where

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna trust humanity for everything else about this movie

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:15.720
<v Speaker 3>that was so weird.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>I just wasn't buying.

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 3>That as like an incredible emotional moment, like and also

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I was very confounded by everything else going on in

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 3>the movie.

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>But yes, insane movie.

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Not surprised that it was beaten by Leelo and Stitch,

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 3>though I am interested to see another discourse starting movie.

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we are really in the summer blockbuster times now, guys.

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mission of Possible Final Reckoning.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's see what it's final box office was for this weekend.

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean Lelo and Stitch made like a head of

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>five stars.

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>What do you give it?

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well it made seven.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 3>It opened to seventy nine million, which is a series best,

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 3>so good for them, good Leelo's Stitch open to one

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and eighty two point seven million.

0:38:58.200 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Giving they Lovely low Stings out of five.

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I was really struggling with this.

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I actually didn't give it a letterbox number because I

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 3>was like kind of struggling. I feel like there are

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 3>moments of the movie where it's a four out of

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 3>five movie, but I also feel like there's moments a

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 3>movie where it's a one out of five movie. I think,

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 3>if I was being really honest, i'd probably give it

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 3>two and a half.

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>But I think I could push it to a three

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>because I.

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Do love stump work and I love crazy out there movies,

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 3>and I love hard sci fi, and I love so

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 3>many of the people involved, and I love the concepts

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 3>that they were going for. I love Tremmel's performance. I

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 3>thought he was like a highlight. I would love to

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 3>see him kind of built into the franchise in a

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of bigger way going forward. But yeah, it is

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 3>a it's also like a hot mess. That's the craziest

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 3>thing about this movie.

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 2>And I think, what about you?

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, it's like a one and a

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>half two, but an interesting one and a half two. Hm,

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, like technically not a good movie, but with

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>some things about it that are very compelling, some action

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>set pieces that are genuinely thrilling, and a general weirdness

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that makes it kind of can't look away. So in

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that sense, it's like a two but a really fascinating thing.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 3>It's a really fascinating too. Yeah, I will also say

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to I really do want to go back.

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I have so many questions, like how many eye raises,

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 3>like meaningful eye raises, this.

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise doing this movie?

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 3>I counted like twenty before the credits started, and then

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I can't do this. I will miss

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 3>the entire movie if I'm just doing this. How much

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 3>time is non spoken? How much time is b roll?

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 3>I saw the Guardian guessing the b roll and flashbacks

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 3>are around seventy minutes of the movie will be hilarious

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 3>if it was true.

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing my estimation is more like forty minutes.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I need to know how much of the movie has

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 3>no dialogue, because I think that's again really strange for

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 3>a massive popcorn So will I be going back? Into

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 3>count all of these moments with a.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Secret digital timer in my pocket.

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Perhaps I will, because I truly came out of it

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 3>with so many data questions.

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 1>All Right, that's been our reactions to Mission Impossible, a

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>final Reckoning. Now let's get into the omnibi. Okay, Rosie,

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited about this. This is a franchise that

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>since its inception, has always been a vehicle for incredible

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>set pieces, and the set pieces, as you mentioned up top,

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>have only come more and more insane.

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Some of the wildest stunts that we've ever seen put

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 3>the screen.

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think the thing I was most.

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Excited about when we talked about doing this episode was

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 3>just like me and you were big fans of the

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 3>first movie, and I think like that is such like

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 3>an understated, atmospheric Brian de Palmer political thriller.

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>And it is even though from the very beginning we.

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Do get these kind of moments of action, and obviously

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 3>there are some really memorable set pieces like the break

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 3>in to Quantico and all that kind of stuff the

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 3>train tunnel, it is very interesting to see how different

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 3>that movie is from what we get with like A

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Dead reckoning. And also, yeah, it's very interesting because we

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 3>sort of as I was rewatching the movies and then

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>reading a lot of behind the scenes stuff to put

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 3>this together, just kind of realizing like that evolution and.

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, he's Tom Cruise. He's like an unknowable man.

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 3>So there's no not really a lot of conversations about why.

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 3>It was just something that started happening. So yeah, I

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 3>mean it all all begins with the first Mission Impossible,

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 3>which was this, as I mentioned, like this dynamic, atmospheric

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 3>spy thriller by our one of our favorite great weirdos, Brian.

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Aupart Still yees still.

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a really fantastic movie.

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I have it on multiple different I have it on VHS,

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I have it on DVD.

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>It's just something I want to own. I want to

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>watch again. It's intimate and kind of filled with betrayal.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 3>I think it establishes a lot of the twists, and

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:35.760
<v Speaker 3>it's far like the franchise is filled with outrageous twists

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 3>and this definitely kind of establishes that with all of

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 3>the mask reveals. But it's more of like a classical

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 3>political thriller than it is a wild stump movie. But

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 3>it does set up the framework for the franchise having

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 3>some really incredible step pieces. In this case, the most

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 3>dangerous stump was actually the exploding fish tank, the chewing

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 3>gum exploding fish tank, because Cruise has talked about how

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 3>basically it was sixteen tons of water and glass that

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 3>had to explode on set and for some reason him

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 3>and the stunt coordinator just couldn't kind of communicate properly

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 3>about timing. So he has a lot of like feelings

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 3>about how that was surprisingly kind of dangerous and he

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 3>did it himself, it wasn't a stunt actor. And obviously

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.399
<v Speaker 3>I think the most memorable moment for me in this film,

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 3>and I think about it a lot because I watch

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 3>this film on VHS when I was a kid, and

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 3>there were two moments that really scared me. The beginning

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 3>when the guy.

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Is on the roof of the elevator.

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 3>And also the end when Tom Cruise ends up hanging

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 3>on the train and then the helicopter is like Blaied

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 3>is like one meter from him.

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Now Emilio, Yeah, right, coach of the Mighty Ducks hockey

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:45.839
<v Speaker 1>team who.

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't go well for him. I had many nightmares about

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the elevator.

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the train sequence is actually interesting because it

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 3>was still like surrounded by one hundred and forty maper

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 3>our winds to make it look like it he's laying

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 3>on top of the train, but it's all green screened, right,

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 3>which is funny because now we know that he would

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of do that in real life if he had

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 3>the option now. But it was definitely a kind of

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 3>classic Hollywood slighterpand that established him as an action star.

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 3>But in the much maligned Mission Impossible To by John Wu,

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 3>which I still enjoy, as you guys all know, it

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 3>was interesting because that actually still stands the opening of

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 3>that film as one of the most dangerous stunts he's

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 3>ever done, which was he free climbed these immense kind

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 3>of they were created rock faces and the famous Oakley's

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:45.439
<v Speaker 3>opening where he throws the Oakley's ass. And John Wu

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 3>did speak quite extensively to entertain Weekly in two thousand

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 3>about how he did not want Tom Cruise to do

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 3>that stunt. He said, I was like, really mad he

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do it. I tried to stop him.

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't.

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 3>I was so scared. I was sweating. I couldn't even

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 3>watch the monitor when we shock. I'm like Tom Crase,

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 3>what are you doing to John Wu? Like let this

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 3>man live?

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I also, could you imagine like coming over from from

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong and being like, oh my god, I has

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a Sum Cruise movie and he might die, see imagining

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>being like the director who killed Tom Curls.

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I think that for whatever reason, that must be

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 3>part of what inspires Tom Cruise, because like, he is

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 3>not the last director that is going to feel that

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 3>way about Tom Cruise being stunt. But even though the

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 3>movie is not necessarily beloved, that opening sequence is super iconic.

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 3>And the fact that they had like a Metallica tie

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 3>in video to that, I think also kind of helped

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 3>cement it, and it kind of expanded his mission to

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 3>become like the A list stunt director. Interestingly, Mission Impossible three,

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 3>directed by jj Abrams might have heard of him. That

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 3>is like a stunt heavy movie, but a lot more

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of He's flinging himself from one skyscraper to another

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 3>in Shanghai. There's an explosion as he tries to run

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 3>away from Davian and it's a car explosion, and Tom

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Cruise actually did end up breaking two ribs during that,

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 3>but it's not necessarily the most remembered of his you

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 3>know stunts. Really that becomes mission impossible for ghost Protocol,

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 3>where under the keen eye of director Brad Bird, who

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure also did not want him to do this,

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise decided that he was going to climb the

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 3>tallest building in the world, the bers Khalifa, and he

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 3>was actually gonna do it, no stunt people. And that

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 3>was also the first one. I think you'll remember this.

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 3>This is like twenty eleven. That was the one where

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:47.399
<v Speaker 3>they were like advertising the movie on the stunt. That's

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 3>where that part of the franchise begins, which now is

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 3>a huge part of.

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 1>The movies, huge marketing push around that stunt pictures of

0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Tom Cruise with the thumbs up on top of the

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Bruskale for emerging and this is months before the film.

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just completely wild.

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 3>They would contest with like real life sandstorms, multiple technical

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 3>difficulties to bring it to life. They actually had to

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 3>get permission from the bersh Khalifa to break multiple windows

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 3>on the building so they could basically attach Cruise on

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 3>different points of the building with the safety line. But

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 3>he still could have died. And I would say that

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 3>even though I don't know many people who would say

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Mission Impossible for is necessarily their favorite. It is the

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 3>kind of the fast and furious of this franchise where

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 3>this is when they've reinvigorated the franchise. Everyone's talking about

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 3>the death defying stunts. Everyone's talking about Tom Cruise.

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 2>The image of him on the.

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Bersh Khalifer with the glasses is very iconic and hilariously.

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 3>When I rewatched this movie, it's quite funny because actually

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 3>all the scenes around the Bersh Khalifa stuff and in

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the bers Khalifer are so funny and like well done

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 3>that the stunt is almost secondary to the actual narrative

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 3>of the movie. But when it came to how we

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 3>were looking at Tom Cruise and how we were looking

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.880
<v Speaker 3>at these stunts, it became, you know, a kind of

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.720
<v Speaker 3>a game changer for the franchise and for his career.

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:18.280
<v Speaker 3>And if we just take the way and our mission,

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>if we choose to accept it, is to listen to

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.280
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0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And we're back. We're back.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 3>So this is where I would say that Mission Impossible

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 3>becomes the franchise that it is now, and that is

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 3>because in Mission Impossible five Rogue Nation.

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I do think maybe the best.

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 3>This is our joint best of the later the later franchises.

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 2>This is the one that I rewatched the most. I

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 2>saw this in the movie theater.

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a villain, great villain, so engaging, great.

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Stunts, marvelified in the best kind of way.

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, kind of snap.

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Up and it's we were kind of talking about this

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 3>off camera where it was like, actually, this Ethan Hunt

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 3>has always been kind of written sassily, and so by

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 3>the time you get here, when the mcu is having

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 3>that huge impact, this becomes, oh, we can streamline this

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 3>into like a bantery team, kind of like mcuh meets

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:21.200
<v Speaker 3>the A team and that's kind of what they go

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:22.920
<v Speaker 3>for for the rest of it. And I love that.

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 2>So this is his first.

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Collaboration with Christoph mcquarie, who's still making the movies now,

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 3>who is the director of The Final Reckoning, and the

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 3>opening of the movie is Tom Cruise clinging to the

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 3>side of a real life plane. Still one of the

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 3>most kind of this is like up there with your

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:46.360
<v Speaker 3>your classic stunt people, best ever stunts.

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 2>That have been put to screen.

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 3>It was also the first stunt that made Cruise basically

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 3>like question himself, as he revealed in a chat with

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Fallon, he was like, they strap me on the

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 3>plane beforehand, and then they start the engines. Then we

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 3>taxi down the runway, and he the pilot was basically like,

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:07.879
<v Speaker 3>you gotta be you know, doing it in the right

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 3>direction and making sure that it's hitting the future, don't

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 3>hit the fuselage, and da da da da. And basically

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 3>as it was going on, Tom Cruise admitted that he

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, like, maybe this isn't such a good idea. Like,

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 3>as that plane is going up into the sky, He's like,

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't think this is a good idea, but I

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:29.799
<v Speaker 3>can't tell anyone because the whole crew is on the plane,

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 3>which I think is actually incredible, incredibly relatable. You get

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 3>to the event, you don't want to do the work,

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, well, everyone's here, I gotta do it anyway.

0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>But that plane would be a huge kind of game

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 2>changer for the franchise.

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Again, you start promoting the movies on Cruise doing these events,

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.360
<v Speaker 3>and this is where he starts to establish himself to

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the point where like at Cinema Con a couple of

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 3>years ago, he filmed a special video of himself on

0:51:57.360 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 3>an old timey plan and being like welcome back to.

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 2>The movies, like get your popcorn.

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.360
<v Speaker 3>And he becomes this kind of advocate for cinema the

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:09.320
<v Speaker 3>way that we've seen him promoting Sinners Barbenheimer, and.

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 2>He often will do it with like a crazy stunt.

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Recently, for the premiere of the Dead of a Final

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Final Reckoning, he was just standing on top of the

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Imax Theater in the UK, which is like a three

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 3>hundred foot tall, like circular building.

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:26.319
<v Speaker 2>No one knows why he was there, No one knows

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.879
<v Speaker 2>he just he just did it. And so then that's

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 2>when we enter this.

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Era of stunts in mission impossible movies. Like in Fallout,

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 3>which is another great movie. I loved the addition of

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Henry Carville. I thought the plot and that was really fun.

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 3>He did a twenty five thousand foot halo jump out.

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Of altitude low opening.

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, like he is jumping out of that plane, causing

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:55.240
<v Speaker 3>everyone on that set to have like deep deep anxiety issues.

0:52:55.920 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 3>And then like for you know, so Dead Reckoning, I

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:06.720
<v Speaker 3>would say probably the most famous stunt of all of these,

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 3>and the one you know they were doing ten minute

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 3>previews of this stunt before the movie came out in Imax,

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 3>and this is the stunt where Tom Cruise drives his

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 3>motorbike up a mountain and then just drives over the

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 3>mountain parachutes out to get onto the Orient Express, the

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 3>legendary trade.

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>He said, he said, Michelle Yo and Super Cup forget you,

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to I'm about to triple up you, quadruple

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 1>up you.

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Why isn't Michelle Yobin in one of these movies? By

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:41.479
<v Speaker 3>the way, that's the reboot. That's the reboot, and that

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.879
<v Speaker 3>all leads us to Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, which

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 3>promises to have multiple insane set pieces. As director Christopher

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 3>macquarie te's that can, he said, He's in a biplane,

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:55.400
<v Speaker 3>completely alone at the controls, and the biplane stuffers some damage.

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Spoiler, there's tension.

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 3>In this scene, Cruise was essentially acting as the higher

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 3>crew from the plane. Mcquarie explained that because at ten

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:07.320
<v Speaker 3>thousand feet above the African landscape, he was completely alone.

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Up there.

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Tom is lighting the shot by how he's positioning the

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:13.280
<v Speaker 3>plane and its relationship to the sun, and he's operating

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 3>the focus just off camera. He is the crew in

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 3>every single shot you're seeing and nobody tells you to stop.

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:21.279
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we should probably have told him to

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 3>stop at some point before this.

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I know he's gotta stop. I think he got stop.

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 2>The thing is like, does he want to die on screen?

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 3>That's like I feel like they were still released the movie,

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:35.720
<v Speaker 3>but for now he's still alive.

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>This reminds me of a Dustin Hoffman quote. Dustin Hoffman,

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe this was from Dustin Hoffman's in the Actress Studio.

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 1>He's talking about doing Marathon Man with Why am I?

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>He talked about doing Marathon Man with Sir Laurence Olivier,

0:54:57.560 --> 0:54:59.800
<v Speaker 1>who at that time was very.

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Ill mm hmm.

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And he asked, Sir Lawrence, like, why do we do this?

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>You know? Why? Why do we? Why are we compelled

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to be actors? What is it about this life? You know?

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>And Olivier leaned towards him and he would he you know,

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 1>very ill, but his you know, his voice kind of

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>changes says, you want to know why, my dear boy.

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>He goes and he leans in close to Dustin Hoffman

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, look at me, look at me, look

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>at me. Look And I really think that's it, Like

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know if you're an actor. Some of this is

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you're a fucking ham. You're a ham since kid, you

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.240
<v Speaker 1>love everybody looking at you.

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 3>You're doing a performance with your cousin's at the Christmas Pie,

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Like you're a performer.

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 1>You need that. And I think Tom Cruise is like

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe the most yeah, you know, pure example of that,

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, man, it's like you're killing us here. You're

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna don't please don't die on a biplane like over Kenya,

0:55:58.600 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Like what are we doing?

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 2>We don't, we gonna do that. We'll be right back

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:06.279
<v Speaker 2>after a message from us onces We're back.

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jason, what is your favorite almost memorable stunt from

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:13.440
<v Speaker 3>this series?

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Memorable? I mean, there's too many to mention. I'll just

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 1>say my favorites. My favorite the Knocklists stealing at Cia

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.839
<v Speaker 1>is I think still my favorite. But having rewatched all

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>these movies recently, the car chases, we kind of just

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:35.240
<v Speaker 1>forget about how amazing the car chases are because.

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I think it's so much else going on.

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the car chase in Man, the car chase

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in Wait, which is is it?

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 2>The dead reckoning one with him and Grace whether and

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the tiny car.

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:53.760
<v Speaker 1>No it's okay. That's the car chase in in Rogue

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Nation when he's in the car with Benji and you know, Ilsa,

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I believe just like stolen the disc and they're kind

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.280
<v Speaker 1>of chasing her, but they're also running from other people

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in the cops. And Ethan drives backwards like down a

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 1>set of flying like across like this raised position, jumping

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like over this set of steps, and then the car

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>rolls and you see it. There's a camera in the car,

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 1>so you see the airbags go up and the car

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>is rolling and you see Benji and Ethan like getting

0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like like socks in a dryer. I watched that. I

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, Jesus Christ, that is cool. And it's definitely

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 1>not one of those things where you're gonna kind of

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.640
<v Speaker 1>picking wild.

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Tom cruise stump. That'sive.

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>It's watching really really impressive. What about you, No, I

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 1>agree with you.

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I do actually think Regnation there is that scene at

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of our infornation where that oil in the

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 3>van and then the band like falls into the river

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of like they're trying to get escape,

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and like that was really good. I think another moment

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 3>and this is definitely just great stunt choreography I get

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 3>and kind of you know, fun fighting.

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 2>But the Walker fight.

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 3>In Fallout where yeah, you know, he really famously kind

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 3>of like he kind of like cocks his fists and

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 3>therein I love a good classic bathroom fight, and I

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 3>think that's one of the great bathroom fights. I think

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I actually got to write a bathroom fight's list based

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 3>on that, which I feel very blessed about.

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I would also just.

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Say I think memorably like and I again me and

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 3>you definitely have a nostalgia connection to the first movie.

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 2>But I really remember and just that feeling of like.

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 3>How cool the explosive gum was when he blew up

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 3>the fish tank and then that wall of war. Yeah,

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 3>red Light, green Light. So I just think there's so

0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 3>many and I honestly think it's it's very interesting to

0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 3>see a movie like this in the current comp and

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 3>the franchise like this, in the current conversation around stunt work,

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 3>because this will be a movie that is eligible for

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 3>that but first stunt movie or maybe that's twenty seven.

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Cruise is gonna try and get it, basically, like get

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 3>it what this is everything he's been working for. He

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 3>is essentially like an advocate in this space. But I

0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 3>think it's very interesting to see this when we're finally

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 3>having these conversations about the stunt workers, about the choreographers,

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 3>about directors like David Leach who are trying to put

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.880
<v Speaker 3>movies out there, about films like The Fall Guy or

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.880
<v Speaker 3>John Wick. You know. So Mission Impossible is very different,

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 3>but I think it fits into the conversation. And I'm

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 3>very excited to see stunt work become something that is

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 3>more recognized, more talked about. And yeah, it's gonna be

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:49.760
<v Speaker 3>interesting to see how that translates. Also, just ballpark guests,

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 3>what do you think that insurance premiums are like on

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 3>these movies?

0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't even I truly think that's most of the budget,

0:59:56.600 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 1>because I've got to be a part of the imagine

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 1>what because surely you're ensuring mister Cruise for hundreds of

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:10.240
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars, like tens of millions, like this is

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the this is a franchise that is around a billion

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:19.920
<v Speaker 1>for each movie in the Ballpark. So and then you're

1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:23.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about like future earnings, I don't eat. I could

1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:25.600
<v Speaker 1>not even imagine.

1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I would love to know.

1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm very excited for the next iteration of this franchise's story,

1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:34.560
<v Speaker 3>which I think has got to be some kind of

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:40.080
<v Speaker 3>incredible behind the scenes book about the making of the movie.

1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:41.880
<v Speaker 2>The making of the movie.

1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm back, Yeah, I think this has got to be

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:47.720
<v Speaker 3>some kind of incredible book in the works of the

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:51.360
<v Speaker 3>making of this movie. With these movies, I can't wait

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 3>to read that nonfiction behind the scenes book about this franchise,

1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:57.240
<v Speaker 3>about the way the studios must have been so scared,

1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:00.360
<v Speaker 3>and about the way that Cruz has actually kind of

1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:03.360
<v Speaker 3>essentially managed to make this his I can do whatever

1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:06.160
<v Speaker 3>I want franchise, which I don't think we've seen the

1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:10.680
<v Speaker 3>likes of that with any even like you know, Robert

1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Danny Junr as iron Man arguably like the biggest box

1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:16.760
<v Speaker 3>office draw for the last kind of fifteen years. Even

1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:19.800
<v Speaker 3>he was still working within the framework of those stories

1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:21.680
<v Speaker 3>and what he could do and what he couldn't do,

1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:23.720
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure there was a lot of collaboration there.

1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:26.000
<v Speaker 3>He brought Tony to life in a way that launched

1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:28.160
<v Speaker 3>the you know, one of the biggest franchises on Earth.

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.479
<v Speaker 3>But Tom Cruise can literally just be like, hey, guys,

1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I want to drive off a cliff, and they have

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:35.160
<v Speaker 3>to be like, okay.

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's let's figure it out.

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:41.480
<v Speaker 3>And I want to say, like, this article is not

1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:44.000
<v Speaker 3>the kind of like the essay that I wrote as

1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:47.880
<v Speaker 3>this omnibus is not even like covering every single stunt,

1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Like there are so many stunts.

1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:52.040
<v Speaker 2>You can't even kind of comprehend.

1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Even in Dead Reckoning the stuff with the Orient Express

1:01:57.560 --> 1:02:00.640
<v Speaker 3>where they're kind of jumping through the can marriages as

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:01.360
<v Speaker 3>they fall out.

1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Now obviously they're not on a real train over.

1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:05.760
<v Speaker 3>A you know, a cliff, but they're still having to

1:02:05.800 --> 1:02:10.200
<v Speaker 3>do incredible choreography and stump work and to make those

1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:12.080
<v Speaker 3>scenes work. And I think that these are some of

1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:14.400
<v Speaker 3>the most still some of the most engaging and kind

1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:17.640
<v Speaker 3>of dynamic action movies that we have in the cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's without even mentioning the fight choreography, which has

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<v Speaker 1>exactly really evolved over the years to I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the bathroom point is a high point, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>for the fight choreography and the Mission Impossible franchise.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a cool looking fight with people flying through tile pipes,

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<v Speaker 1>getting pulled out of the wall. You know, there's that

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful moment where the guy they think is Lark who

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<v Speaker 1>we actually, I don't think ever find out who the

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<v Speaker 1>guy is. No, has Walker like on his knees by

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<v Speaker 1>the hair and like stares down Cruise and then like

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<v Speaker 1>kicks Walk like punches Walker in the head and then

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<v Speaker 1>kicks him away, and Hunt has it to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I don't know if I can take

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. It's a wonderful fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And to have that high point like happened this late

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<v Speaker 1>in the franchise, I think is really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree, really really great enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And now part two of the Mission Impossible Final Reckoning Omnabai,

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<v Speaker 1>this time about the Mission Impossible television series done done

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty six. Mission Impossible burst onto CBS's airwaves

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<v Speaker 1>with a brassy, lallow shifting theme in five four time

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<v Speaker 1>and the simple premise about a team of covert agents

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<v Speaker 1>taking on impossible missions every single week. Creator Bruce Geller

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<v Speaker 1>fused this action television show with Hollywood heist thrills and

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<v Speaker 1>lots of Cold War cloak and dagger themes and drama,

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly inspired by the Intricate Caper film, which we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on some previous episode's top copy. The Impossible Mission

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<v Speaker 1>Force IMF was like a ragtag collection of specialists. You

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<v Speaker 1>had the muscle man Willie, the Master of the Sky's rollin,

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<v Speaker 1>the fashion model turn agent Cinnamon, and the electronic was Barney.

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<v Speaker 1>And each episode, of course, opened with the iconic taped

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<v Speaker 1>briefing your mission. If you choose to accept it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>self destructed in five seconds, a gimmick that became an

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<v Speaker 1>instant pop cultural staple. TV producers during this period were

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<v Speaker 1>under pressure to diversify their casts and to include black

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<v Speaker 1>characters in roles that were not like negative enter Barney Collier,

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<v Speaker 1>played by Greg Morris, one of the first black actors

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<v Speaker 1>in a primetime ensemble. TV Guide nineteen sixty six hailed

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<v Speaker 1>Barney as one of television's quote new Negro figures. To

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<v Speaker 1>show you how unused to talking about black people on

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<v Speaker 1>television the press was at this time. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>team's indispensable tech expert, consistently saving the day with gadgets

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<v Speaker 1>and know how, and it's notable looking back how Barney

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<v Speaker 1>was very stoic, completely one dimensional in his dedication to

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<v Speaker 1>his job, with a portrayal that avoided any hint of

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<v Speaker 1>racial conflict, personal conflict, and This was part of Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Geller creator Bruce Geller's general aversion to character backstory. He

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<v Speaker 1>believed that the Secret Agents should be blank slates, as

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<v Speaker 1>featureless as the masks they were, and that we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>know really anything about any of the backstories of any

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<v Speaker 1>of these characters, and he would veto attempts by writers

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<v Speaker 1>to give the IMF operatives personal lives. This, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>was an era of civil rights struggle, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>could kind of frame simply not making an issue of

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<v Speaker 1>Barney's personal feelings, his personal feelings, but the work he

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<v Speaker 1>does as itself kind of a statement. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>integrated team that was functioning as equals, quietly embodying this

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<v Speaker 1>American ideal of equality and cooperation in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>the general American television audience could find palatable, not disruptive. Safe.

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<v Speaker 1>The IMF's missions often dropped them into global hot zones,

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<v Speaker 1>which were thinly disguised fictional countries. This is the Vietnam

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<v Speaker 1>War era, of course. Each week, Phelps's team might be

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<v Speaker 1>outfoxing some iron curtainspiring or our top lane to some

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<v Speaker 1>despots somewhere in Latin America, or thwarting a shadowy terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>plot they took on quote hostile Iron Curtain, government's Third

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<v Speaker 1>World dictators, corrupt industrials, and crime laers, basically every boogeyman

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<v Speaker 1>in the Western Cold War playbook. American audiences sureley got

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<v Speaker 1>a vicarious thrill about watching these the good guys right

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<v Speaker 1>do do stuff to outwit the evil communists and the

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<v Speaker 1>various crooked regimes, reinforcing this idea that US spies, unofficial

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<v Speaker 1>US spies, were the good guys who were who are

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<v Speaker 1>the heroes and keeping the world safe for democracy and capitalism, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the show's villains were explicitly written to be

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<v Speaker 1>like almost cartoonishly villainous, so that the team's elaborate heist

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<v Speaker 1>type hijinks against them would seem justified, breaking and entering deception,

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<v Speaker 1>fake executions in the form of fiction firing squads. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all fine, because these are the good guys. As

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<v Speaker 1>one critic later observed, Mission Impossible reflected a very nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixties faith, mid nineteen sixties faith that we are good,

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<v Speaker 1>therefore the ends justify the means. In foreign policy, the

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<v Speaker 1>IMF routinely interfered in other nations affairs, set up coups

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<v Speaker 1>set up enemy officials to look like traders and criminals,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they were just doing their job. It was

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<v Speaker 1>essentially espionage as American wish fulfillment, and it's no coincidence

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<v Speaker 1>that abroad the show gave viewers an exaggerated impression of

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA's abilities. Breaking the law in this case wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just acceptable, it was like a heroic way of doing

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<v Speaker 1>business for the US regime. To keep things politically palatable,

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<v Speaker 1>the series was deliberately vague about a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Real countries were not named. The missions took place in

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<v Speaker 1>like Balok or Sentales or some other weirdly named Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>European or Latin American republic, but everyone knew who these

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<v Speaker 1>bad guys were supposed to be. You've got like the

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<v Speaker 1>tyrannical general with a fake goatee in an Eastern European accent,

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<v Speaker 1>some power hungry Caribbean strongman stealing for an aid. The

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<v Speaker 1>IMF's exploits made covert American intervinsion look cool. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the goal, to make it look cool. The team to

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<v Speaker 1>just foil villains, they also spread the gospel of American

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<v Speaker 1>style freedom and capitalism, often by tricking oppressed peoples into

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<v Speaker 1>revolting against their oppressors. In one episode, for instance, the

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<v Speaker 1>team rigs a prison camps communications to spark an inmate uprising,

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<v Speaker 1>manipulating the politics of a fictional dictatorship in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that would benefit US politics. By the early seventies, the

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<v Speaker 1>world had changed. Of course, America is by now trying

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<v Speaker 1>to extricate itself from Vietnam. You've got the Watergate scandal

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<v Speaker 1>kind of brewing and the ensuing revelations around that, all

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<v Speaker 1>of which which unmasked the ethical and the ethical kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lows that the US government was willing to go to,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly the FBI was willing to go to in

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<v Speaker 1>spying on its own people, civil rights organizations, etc. So

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<v Speaker 1>the show wisely pivoted to safer ground. Now it was

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<v Speaker 1>mob bosses, crime syndicates here in the US. This made

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<v Speaker 1>production cheaper, no uniforms, but it's clear the whole kind

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<v Speaker 1>of format was running its course, and after seven seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>Mission Impossible was done in nineteen seventy three. Two years

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<v Speaker 1>later nineteen seventy five, you get the Church Commission Congressional Commission,

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<v Speaker 1>which looked into the acts of various US intelligence outfits

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US and abroad, and that shattered the

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<v Speaker 1>myth of any kind of ethical US intelligence apparatus, with

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<v Speaker 1>revelations about domestic mind control projects, spying on civil rights

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<v Speaker 1>organizations overseas, coup's assassination plots successful and unsuccessful, etc. In

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<v Speaker 1>the late eighties, Cold Wars winding down, but on TV

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<v Speaker 1>the Fight returns. ABC resurrect's Mission Impossible in nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>dropping Jim Phelps still Peter Graves into a new series

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<v Speaker 1>of missions, and this revival was born out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood writer strike of the time and a dose of nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they couldn't write new scripts, the show producers literally

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<v Speaker 1>just filmed the nineteen sixty six the nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>scripts on several occasions. The new Mission Impossible is filmed

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia on a very tight budget, with an eager cast,

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<v Speaker 1>including Phil Morris, son of Barney Morris, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>original gadget guy in the first Mission Impossible series. Not

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<v Speaker 1>much had changed in terms of the show's mission, but

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<v Speaker 1>now they were using you know, computers and and and

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<v Speaker 1>digital mini tapes instead of actual audio tapes. What had changed, though,

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<v Speaker 1>was a political climate. This Reagan era things had gone right.

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<v Speaker 1>Word towards the end of the Cold War seems like

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<v Speaker 1>America's winning, and there was this resurgence of gung ho

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<v Speaker 1>like patriotism. Black and white depictions of good and evil

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<v Speaker 1>action heroes are back, you know. Rambo, Top Gun and

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<v Speaker 1>Mission Impossible dutifully followed suit. The show's tone nudged to

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<v Speaker 1>the right and embraced even less subtlety. One episode, The

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<v Speaker 1>Wall finds Phelps and team in East Berlin orchestrating the

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<v Speaker 1>escape of a bunch of dissidents and uh and one

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<v Speaker 1>part this like East German criminal colonel literally as he's

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<v Speaker 1>turning away, steps on this little girl's like doll and

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<v Speaker 1>smushes it into the into the mud while arresting her family,

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<v Speaker 1>just to show you like how evil the communists were. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the IMF team during the period, we'd even hand out

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<v Speaker 1>US citizenships to grateful defectors, you know, as they're fleeing

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<v Speaker 1>their home countries. A private spy team acting as basically

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<v Speaker 1>like the one stop shop for getting into America and

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<v Speaker 1>becoming part of the free world. It played and was

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<v Speaker 1>like a Reagan era fantasy confident simplified heroes, the US first,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else, The nineteen eighty eight revival also reflected the

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<v Speaker 1>action kind of language of the time, more explosions, more action,

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<v Speaker 1>more gunfights, etc. But for all the tweaks, the new

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<v Speaker 1>Mission Impossible could not recapture the magic and it only

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<v Speaker 1>lasted two seasons and then it was gone by the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>With Mission Impossible off TV for several years, its legacy

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<v Speaker 1>was looking towards a renewal once more, with Tom Cruise

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<v Speaker 1>getting involved in acquiring the IP nineteen ninety six You've

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<v Speaker 1>Got the new Mission Impossible movie backed by Tom Cruise's

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<v Speaker 1>new production company, Cruise Wagner. Interesting note about the first film,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some controversy about the way that Jim Phelps

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<v Speaker 1>was depicted. So in the original show, Jim Phelps's hero, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the leader of this Mission Impossible team of

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<v Speaker 1>heroic spies that goes around the world promoting American freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>In the new movie in nineteen ninety six is Mission Impossible,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Phelps is the bad guy, the guy who turns

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<v Speaker 1>on the IMF, betrays his team and his agents and

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<v Speaker 1>has them all killed, and this actually enraged some of

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<v Speaker 1>the cast. Actor Greg Morris, who played Barney, was disgusted

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<v Speaker 1>by the film's handling of Phelps. He walked out of

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<v Speaker 1>the theater and called it an abomination. Peter Graves himself

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<v Speaker 1>declined a cameo in the film because he'd learned that

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<v Speaker 1>his character returned it to the bad guy and very interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>like footnote to all of this, and all of that

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<v Speaker 1>really tracks with the way the culture shifted over these decades.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mission Impossible films reflect a culture that had fully

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<v Speaker 1>internalized and digested the revelations of the previous decades. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy is not the USSR, it's not Eastern European generals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Latin American dictators or fictional you know, war lords,

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<v Speaker 1>or even organized crime figures. Now it's the Spies themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>cut loose from the Cold War and its larger ideological

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<v Speaker 1>struggle out looking to make a buck on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well that was Mission Impossible to fight, a

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<v Speaker 1>reckoning and absolutely insane film.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely go see the movie there, because you're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to see another movie like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Have really not, don't know, maybe in Bodiacs Jason Stibbe, Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that lady. If you're feeling brave, go seeing forty X.

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<v Speaker 4>In the next few episodes of excervation, we're diving into news.

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<v Speaker 4>Monday is sendoff for the Nintendo Switch. On Tuesday, John

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<v Speaker 4>Wick her Speed Recap, and on Wednesday a new episode

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<v Speaker 4>of Your Wrong Friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a BlimE versus Skyrim. And finally Friday, we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>another special on some movies with another popcorn pop out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepcion and Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>Night and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Our executive producers are Joe Alminique and Aaron Kolefman.

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<v Speaker 1>Our supervising producer is Abusafar.

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<v Speaker 2>Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bai Wag.

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<v Speaker 1>A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 1>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 3>Special thanks to Saul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and Heidi.

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<v Speaker 2>Our disc called moderate, though