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Speaker 1: What today's today's episode getting spoilers for Mission Impossible? The

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Speaker 1: final recording? Can this movie be spoiled?

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Speaker 2: How could you spoil? I don't know. I guess we'll

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Speaker 2: find out. I guess we'll find out.

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Speaker 1: What it is, Jasconcepcio And on Wesday Night and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to text. Our vision of the podcast. Will we

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Speaker 1: go to the bottom of a trench in the Northern

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Speaker 1: Pacific to talk about your favorite shows, movies, colleagues of

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Speaker 1: pop culture coming from our podcast, where we'll bring you

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Speaker 1: three episodes a week every Tuesday, Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 3: Plus in the allo we are reckoning with Mission Impossible.

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Speaker 3: Then mabe, wait a minute, We've got double omnibus.

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Speaker 2: How did this happen?

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Speaker 3: I will be talking about Final Reckoning one and Final Day.

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Speaker 3: I will be reckoning with the action set pieces of

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Speaker 3: the franchise and the history of how Mission Impossible went

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Speaker 3: from a saucy, edgy political thriller by Brian de Palmer

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Speaker 3: to an insane action set piece franchise.

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Speaker 2: And Jason will be omnibusing about.

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Speaker 1: How the television show evolved over the course of several decades,

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Speaker 1: with an original run through the seventies, A reboot in

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Speaker 1: the eighties to its final form as a film franchise.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it all, right, Rosie. First of all,

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Speaker 1: let me say this, I saw an a possible final

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Speaker 1: reckoning last night. I thought I was seeing it imax.

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Speaker 1: I accidentally bought a ticket for four DX the Regal

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Speaker 1: Live Downtown, La Live, Baby, where it's all happening, and

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Speaker 1: let me tell you, Rosie, barely fucking survive. How's how's

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Speaker 1: your back doing well? First of all, F one. The

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Speaker 1: trailer for F one legitimately almost bucked me out of

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Speaker 1: my seat into the front row, and I was hanging

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Speaker 1: on for dear life for much of this movie. Forty

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Speaker 1: X is in like you are a psychotic human being

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Speaker 1: if you're like, get me into forty X now, dude.

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Speaker 3: So that is basically how most kids like to watch movies.

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Speaker 1: I am the way.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the only way that we can like

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Speaker 3: trap them into watching like a full length feature and

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Speaker 3: needs a seatbelt.

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Speaker 2: It needs a seat belt. I the only screening I

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Speaker 2: could get into for Gladiator two, which we discussed.

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Speaker 3: On a previous episode, was also forty X. Bro without

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Speaker 3: like stabbing people in the back. I'm getting punched in

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Speaker 2: The sharks are spraying water on me.

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Speaker 3: It was awful, the water, the vapor, the sickening vapor of.

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Speaker 1: You can turn it off, so it's just like an

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Speaker 1: er jet, but it's still troubling.

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Speaker 3: I gotta ask you before we get into our full reactions,

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Speaker 2: Is edited so tropily. How was that?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: What did you how did you survive.

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Speaker 3: The several cuts there are, so I don't know, Like

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Speaker 3: my the version that I got in this in the

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Speaker 3: version was like ja haja chu chu chut cha, Like

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Speaker 3: how scary was that?

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Speaker 2: In the forty X was it?

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Speaker 3: Like it was saying for the action, what was the

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Speaker 3: worst part when it was reaction the super when you

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Speaker 1: Nuts, So in the submarine it was mostly I'll say

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Speaker 1: leveling you up. They don't just you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: the one trailer immediately and yeah, you're just like blown

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Speaker 1: It was kind of like a a staggered build, and

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Speaker 1: And as the sub begins to roll into the trench,

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Speaker 1: And then for the plane, it's just like hold on

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Speaker 3: Also, by this point it was like one in the morning,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it keeps you awake, like I was going

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Speaker 1: is I'm gonna start with the positives, Rosie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Okay, let's go to reactions and start.

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Speaker 1: With let's start the positive set pieces I think are

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Speaker 1: hard to put your finger on. Like, this movie is weird,

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Speaker 1: But there's a weirdness throughout that makes it those kind

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Speaker 1: theory is that five years since you know, top Gun,

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Speaker 1: Maverick and Covid era of the industry basically saying Tom Cruise,

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Speaker 1: save us, save the industry, save Hollywood, Tom Cruise, only

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Speaker 1: you can save it, Only you can do it. Tom

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Speaker 1: has like has like completely by osmosis filled his being,

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Speaker 1: so that this movie is very strangely messianic.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's very much like he is Jesus the franchise

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Speaker 3: or Hollywood unclear, but either and both.

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Speaker 1: The whole movie is like, uh, we have you know,

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Speaker 1: and Ethan Ethan's the only one who wants to destroy it,

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Speaker 1: Grace is like, are you shouldn't really want to destroy it?

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Speaker 1: You know that? The president is like we need it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is telling him, don't destroy it. And then you

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Speaker 1: get to the end place where he's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think I can actually control it.

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Speaker 1: Got ye me, I'm the one person they can control it.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously to me.

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Speaker 3: Obviously if you're listening to this, you're probably like, Wow,

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Speaker 3: can't believe you guys are not doing a recap.

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Speaker 2: Impossible movie to recap guys, I just don't say.

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Speaker 1: There's barely any place.

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Speaker 3: There's literally there's literally no way you could recap it

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Speaker 3: and most of what happens is just flashbacks to other movies. Now,

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Speaker 3: I have to say I was I was on an

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Speaker 3: emotional rollercoaster during this movie because it started and I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, what is going on. Then by the time it

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Speaker 3: The credits, like twenty minutes in, and it was like

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Speaker 3: then I was like camp masterpiece. And then I was

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Speaker 3: like insane stunts? Is this movie bad?

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Speaker 2: It is true a unique experience.

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Speaker 3: I think it's unbelievable that this movie got released in

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Speaker 2: This feels kind of like a TV show.

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Speaker 3: They've had a lot of success in the last few

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Speaker 3: this movie was at least like a normal three act structure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And it did feel a lot more traditional than this film.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, I do like I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: here is a completely almost abstract movie like The Villain.

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Speaker 1: But it's almost like two thousand and one Space on

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Speaker 1: There's long stretches where no one speaks and you're just

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Speaker 3: I was It's like, when I was watching the movie,

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Speaker 3: I do, I was thinking about this conversation, and I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, what is your I need to go.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back with the little like timer

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Speaker 2: How much of the movie has no dialogue, because I

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Speaker 3: It's at these long shots where everyone is like looking

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Speaker 3: It seems like hypnotized by being hypnotized by the a exposition,

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Speaker 2: But there was a lot of tell do not show.

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Speaker 3: They would be like, Okay, then you gotta put this

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Speaker 3: and they bring in, you know, incredibly talented and beautiful

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Speaker 2: By the way, Okay, and I want to talking about

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Speaker 1: I need to talk about Katie O'Brien, whose character has

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Speaker 1: To kind of give you an idea about how strange,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talked about it. There's all these scenes

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Speaker 1: and escape and so Ethan is escaping.

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00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Which is really weird. But really again.

442
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: This is this is the most two thousand and one

443
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: like final thirty minutes of two thousand and one part

444
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: of a summer blockbuster, like ever, maybe no words at all,

445
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:53,239
Speaker 1: all action, very weird visuals like they they mentioned, you know,

446
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: Katie O'Brien's unnamed us divers tells him, listen, you're gonna

447
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: experience like mental like psychosis and weird things and pain,

448
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: and so they there is a brief there's these brief

449
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: moments where he like sees one of the dead sailors

450
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: like pointing to him, but that and it's like.

451
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: And also it looks like they've got some kind of

452
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: growth on them, so it looks almost like fungal and

453
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: they kind of play into that kind of weird.

454
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: The weirdest they came out doesn't do anything.

455
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: Doesn't that do like a fifteen minute explanation of how

456
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: dangerous it is for him to do this dive in

457
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: this suit and all the reasons he has to follow

458
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: the rules and wear the suit.

459
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: But then he like immediately just cuts the suit off.

460
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like like six hundred feet underwater. Okay,

461
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: So this brings me to my final very very strange.

462
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: So Ethan cuts the suit off, exits the sub which

463
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: is rolling down a trench through the torpedo tube, and

464
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: with difficulty, swims hundreds of feet five hundred plus feet

465
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: six hundred and seven hundred feet to the surface, experiencing

466
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: the bends the whole time is like the gas you know,

467
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: the gas bubbles expanded in his body and he he

468
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: comes up like fifty feet short and drowns.

469
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: But then they predicted what's gonna happen.

470
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: But then like because he's got that like little tracker

471
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: on him, they don't show it. But he wakes up

472
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: in the pressurization and the mobile pressurization chamber that Grace

473
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: and Tapisa had like rode out on the sled out there,

474
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: and he wakes up there and there, and she's in it,

475
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: and she's in it. She's in it. I guess you

476
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: could just be in it if you didn't go underwater.

477
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: She's in it with him, and she wakes up. He

478
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: wakes up in her arms, and they're like the light

479
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: of love is shining on them and to pieces like

480
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: looking in through the glass smiling this tific smile. So

481
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: here is my theory. This entire movie is the death

482
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: throws of Ethan Hunt as he drowns. He all of

483
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: these flashbacks, all of this exposition is his life flashing

484
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: before his eyes as he fails to make the surface

485
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: and dies, and then it's unclear to me if he

486
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: if he actually lives. I think he dies right there.

487
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: I like that a lot.

488
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 3: I think that makes a lot of sense, especially because

489
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: from hairing out, everything gets like very super heroic, like

490
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: he finishes everything, everyone survives.

491
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Everyone is saying, Benji makes it. You know, he makes it.

492
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: The new kid makes makes and it seems like they're

493
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: setting up like a pum clementy Benji relationship.

494
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: Maybe. Also, that's another thing that I will say about

495
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: this movie.

496
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: It establishes multiple things where I feel like there could

497
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: have been a way to explain it, but they do

498
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: so much explanation, but then they don't. So for example,

499
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: early on in this movie. Something we have not mentioned

500
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: yet is that so that he can be in control

501
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: or at least in conversation with the AI, which the

502
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: early half of the movie like constantly just shows like

503
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: a computer music visualizer type version of this AI for

504
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: like ten to fifteen.

505
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: Minutes on the screen talking to Ethan. It's surreal. It's

506
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: incredibly surreal.

507
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: But like during that moment, Ethan puts on this like

508
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: scary AI helmet and goes in a scary AI box

509
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: costant kind of like a coffin that kind of show,

510
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: and Pom says, it will change you.

511
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna change you.

512
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: So he gets in that AI shows him the truth

513
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: of the world kind of like he's Ultron, and I

514
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, well then they can use that

515
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: to just explain why he can do anything for the

516
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: rest of the movie, because he's basically like right, and

517
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: he's like half AI half human, and they don't do it.

518
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: They don't do it, just they just get him out

519
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: and then they're.

520
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, he's out, like you seem AI, And I'm like,

521
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: what is going on?

522
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: Like I feel like my original letterbox review was gonna

523
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: be like I need the tofa Grace cut, and I

524
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: do stand by that because I want to see there

525
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: is a ninety.

526
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: Agree to two hours of this movie.

527
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: Movie way more like the original Mission Impossibles we've seen.

528
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't have all the insane flashbacks, it doesn't have

529
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: the constant reuse of old footage, It probably doesn't have

530
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: as much of the AI visualizer, And I think there's

531
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: something that would be really interesting in that.

532
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Movie that feels a lot more akin to.

533
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: An like a traditional maybe early Mission Impossible movie. But

534
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: in its current status it is one of the stranger

535
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: films of the year.

536
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 2: And in that way, I kind of like, good, good on.

537
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, I'd rather see a very weird bad movie

538
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: than a flat out bad movie. One more thing, and

539
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: then we'll move on to the Omnibus. I to the Omnibi,

540
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: the entity terrible villain what even it doesn't make any

541
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: sense because, first of all, Carbons omnibussy. First of all,

542
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: because the AI is like never even involved enough to

543
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: be a be an effective foil for Ethan and then Gabriel,

544
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: same thing is just not around until the very end

545
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: of I feel really.

546
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: Really weird that they the AI is so omnipo omnipotent

547
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: and they have it like take over the nuclear arsenal

548
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: or whatever, which actually honestly feels like a very overdone

549
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 3: trope for this movie where they're doing so much weird stuff,

550
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: But like, why isn't the AI just like we see

551
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: at the beginning that there's this AI doomstay call never

552
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: mentioned again, by the way, which I thought was interesting

553
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: part of the movie. And they also mentioned like the

554
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: AI is changing stuff, so people are.

555
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Can I ask you? Did you so when when Hunt

556
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: gets attacked by the other unnamed US diver, I perceived

557
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: that as this is one of the entities.

558
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too.

559
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: It was just like he must love the cult, he

560
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: must he must love the entity or whatever.

561
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 2: But they never really explain.

562
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: Aaron said, the BB Report is sharing all the videos

563
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: of the cult. Come on, Aaron, But like it's one

564
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 3: of those things where I was just there was a

565
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: lot of threads that they introduced that I felt like

566
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: could have helped push the narrative along, Like if the

567
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: AI is so powerful, we could have seen it kind

568
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: of play around with the public perception of IMF or

569
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: Hunt or anything. But instead it just doesn't just talk

570
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: about the AI, just like take over the nuclear weapons

571
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: and then just waits behind to basically disarm it. It's

572
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: it's truly very strange.

573
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: And our film.

574
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: And I was in the movie feeling like it was

575
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: much longer than it was, which is I mean, I

576
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: love I love.

577
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: The movies, movies, movies, movies. Me and Jason paid to go.

578
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: And see this movie.

579
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: We love you and I we love we love cinema,

580
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: we love porn. We apparently love forty X now, so

581
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: I guess see to the movies.

582
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: I watch six K.

583
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: I would watch that in forty X definitely that would

584
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: be terrifying. And I just I this was such an

585
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: unexpectedly strange experience.

586
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.

587
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: I went to see it, uh at the local AMC

588
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: and in me it was Bargain Tuesday of Love that day.

589
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: But like there's there's the del Ammo Maull which was full,

590
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: like every single one was full. And and usually it

591
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: goes between our there or the other theater, which one's

592
00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: going to be full.

593
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: And our one was not full.

594
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: And I honestly just can't imagine what it would have

595
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: been like to see that in a full theater, Like

596
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: were people stoked about it?

597
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: Like when don Low appeared where they like, no.

598
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: One seemed to like no one seemed to clock that

599
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: no one got the reference, and they don't tell you

600
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: until they're on the plane leaving the island, like they've

601
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: got through all this stuff before he's it's like, oh

602
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: you're that, yeah, remember me?

603
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: They have other people say it.

604
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: But the other thing that I find really funny is

605
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. Part of this Watching this movie

606
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: did feel like to me that some execs somewhere had

607
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: like watched a lot of MCU movies, didn't understand the

608
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: Easter eggs and was felt like annoyed.

609
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: That they didn't understand them. So they were like, you

610
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: know what people.

611
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: Really want, They want to every reference explained. When somebody

612
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: shows up, you better reference how they were in the

613
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: other movies and why this is a reference, and like

614
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: what they been up to it.

615
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: I think I'm.

616
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: Interested to see if there's obviously Chris mcquarie and Tom

617
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: Cruise I think have final cut on these things.

618
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: I don't think that I like, I think Tom has

619
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: the Yeah.

620
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's a world where there's like

621
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: a different cut they wish was released, but it was

622
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: giving a blade Runner with the narration to me, like

623
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: I would love to see a non exposition, non flashback

624
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: version that just allowed it to be abstract and weird

625
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: and all about these crazy set pieces. Like I will say,

626
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: for whatever my feelings are about the quality of the movie.

627
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: The end like forty five minutes of this movie with

628
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: the sub escape and then the crazy plane biplane drama

629
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 3: that was kind of like the end of Porco Rosso,

630
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: but like live action. It was I was at the

631
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: edge of my seat, stoice thrilling, Like it was really thrilling.

632
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: It made me feel.

633
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: Like how everyone else says they feel when they watch

634
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: Uncle John's.

635
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 5: Like when I hunka Charms, I was just like vibe in.

636
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: I was like, this is a great movie, Like I

637
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: love this, Like fuck, this guy is like so bad

638
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 5: at doing everything.

639
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: This is so much fun to watch. But everyone else

640
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it gave me an anxiety attack. By

641
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: the end of that movie, I was sitting in my

642
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: chair forwards with my hands on my head, like what

643
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: are you doing, Tom Cruise, Like I.

644
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: Was stressed watching him biplanes.

645
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: I know he didn't do it, and then you know what,

646
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: at the end he was like boom, I'm still alive.

647
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm back with all my pals in Trafalgar Square, London,

648
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: which if anybody watched the security cameras here would know this.

649
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Is where we would meet. And then we're all just

650
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 2: gonna walk off.

651
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: And also, okay, let me ask you this before we

652
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: go to the Omnibus City. The last like hour of

653
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: this movie is definitely just well, honestly most of the movie,

654
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: because Katie O'Brien falls into this too, is just them

655
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: like being like, who's gonna be the next mission impossible?

656
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Who's on eight fifty different teams?

657
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Who who's your most likely to take over from Tom

658
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: Cruise character in a Mission impossible, requel, reboot, whatever they

659
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: decide next, because it feels like that's what they're trying

660
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 3: to sell.

661
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't know who's going to take over.

662
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody currently in the franchise is going

663
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Speaker 1: to be the takeover person. I think they'll probably bring

664
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Speaker 1: in somebody new to truly take me Ethan hunt Roll,

665
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: but I believe the team will include Benji Grace Dega, Yeah,

666
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: he definitely.

667
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: I think Tom Cruise met the act while they were

668
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: doing Top Gun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, I was very confused as

670
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: why Dega was like at the prisoner move of Para anyway,

671
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: like why was why was he used?

672
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: He used to be Sia Wighams like right bod, but

673
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: then he turned onto the the no rules part of IMF.

674
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: Which is the party most of it.

675
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: So I think Paris Clementief will be part of it,

676
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: and then and then maybe came.

677
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: I think I feel like they set up Katie O'Brien

678
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: as a potential, like she's an incredible stump person. We've

679
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: seen her an incredible kind of rolls everything.

680
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: From at Man Quantumania to Love Life's Bleeding.

681
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: I love that movie so much, like it's such a

682
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: weird movie, just like this.

683
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, another deeply weird movie. And this.

684
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: I just think it's like an intriguing space to leave

685
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: the franchise because they acted like it was going to

686
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: be a goodbye to Ethan Hunt, but it doesn't seem

687
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: like it was unless your theory is true, and I

688
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: love your theory, where this is basically just him imagining

689
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: what happens after he dies, and the best case scenario,

690
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: like the world doesn't all shoot its nukes to each us,

691
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: like I.

692
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: Said, I did it.

693
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: I see the world I did kind of think it

694
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: was funny that and this is I think a problem,

695
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: a mission impossible problem here is that.

696
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Angela Bassett, who I love.

697
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: She did as they say, do the thing, as always,

698
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: she did the thing, but like they have her make

699
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: a decision that was like, it feels like you've seen

700
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: it before where it's like she's not gonna shoot the nukes.

701
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, I've seen that in the Dark Night.

702
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: I've seen that in like a million other movies where

703
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 3: you're gonna trust humanity for everything else about this movie

704
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 3: that was so weird.

705
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: I just wasn't buying.

706
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: That as like an incredible emotional moment, like and also

707
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: I was very confounded by everything else going on in

708
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: the movie.

709
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: But yes, insane movie.

710
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: Not surprised that it was beaten by Leelo and Stitch,

711
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: though I am interested to see another discourse starting movie.

712
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we are really in the summer blockbuster times now, guys.

713
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mission of Possible Final Reckoning.

714
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: Let's see what it's final box office was for this weekend.

715
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean Lelo and Stitch made like a head of

716
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: five stars.

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00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: What do you give it?

718
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: Okay, well it made seven.

719
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: It opened to seventy nine million, which is a series best,

720
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 3: so good for them, good Leelo's Stitch open to one

721
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty two point seven million.

722
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: I don't think.

723
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: Giving they Lovely low Stings out of five.

724
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, I was really struggling with this.

725
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: I actually didn't give it a letterbox number because I

726
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: was like kind of struggling. I feel like there are

727
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: moments of the movie where it's a four out of

728
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: five movie, but I also feel like there's moments a

729
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: movie where it's a one out of five movie. I think,

730
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: if I was being really honest, i'd probably give it

731
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: two and a half.

732
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: But I think I could push it to a three

733
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: because I.

734
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: Do love stump work and I love crazy out there movies,

735
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: and I love hard sci fi, and I love so

736
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: many of the people involved, and I love the concepts

737
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: that they were going for. I love Tremmel's performance. I

738
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: thought he was like a highlight. I would love to

739
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: see him kind of built into the franchise in a

740
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: kind of bigger way going forward. But yeah, it is

741
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: a it's also like a hot mess. That's the craziest

742
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: thing about this movie.

743
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Speaker 2: And I think, what about you?

744
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's like a one and a

745
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: half two, but an interesting one and a half two. Hm,

746
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, like technically not a good movie, but with

747
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: some things about it that are very compelling, some action

748
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: set pieces that are genuinely thrilling, and a general weirdness

749
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: that makes it kind of can't look away. So in

750
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: that sense, it's like a two but a really fascinating thing.

751
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: It's a really fascinating too. Yeah, I will also say

752
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: I want to I really do want to go back.

753
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 3: I have so many questions, like how many eye raises,

754
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: like meaningful eye raises, this.

755
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise doing this movie?

756
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: I counted like twenty before the credits started, and then

757
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't do this. I will miss

758
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: the entire movie if I'm just doing this. How much

759
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: time is non spoken? How much time is b roll?

760
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: I saw the Guardian guessing the b roll and flashbacks

761
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: are around seventy minutes of the movie will be hilarious

762
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: if it was true.

763
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm guessing my estimation is more like forty minutes.

764
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: I need to know how much of the movie has

765
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: no dialogue, because I think that's again really strange for

766
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: a massive popcorn So will I be going back? Into

767
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: count all of these moments with a.

768
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: Secret digital timer in my pocket.

769
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: Perhaps I will, because I truly came out of it

770
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: with so many data questions.

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00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: All Right, that's been our reactions to Mission Impossible, a

772
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: final Reckoning. Now let's get into the omnibi. Okay, Rosie,

773
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this. This is a franchise that

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00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: since its inception, has always been a vehicle for incredible

775
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: set pieces, and the set pieces, as you mentioned up top,

776
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: have only come more and more insane.

777
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: Some of the wildest stunts that we've ever seen put

778
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 3: the screen.

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00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: And I think the thing I was most.

780
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: Excited about when we talked about doing this episode was

781
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: just like me and you were big fans of the

782
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: first movie, and I think like that is such like

783
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: an understated, atmospheric Brian de Palmer political thriller.

784
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: And it is even though from the very beginning we.

785
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: Do get these kind of moments of action, and obviously

786
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: there are some really memorable set pieces like the break

787
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: in to Quantico and all that kind of stuff the

788
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: train tunnel, it is very interesting to see how different

789
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: that movie is from what we get with like A

790
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: Dead reckoning. And also, yeah, it's very interesting because we

791
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: sort of as I was rewatching the movies and then

792
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: reading a lot of behind the scenes stuff to put

793
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: this together, just kind of realizing like that evolution and.

794
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: It's you know, he's Tom Cruise. He's like an unknowable man.

795
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: So there's no not really a lot of conversations about why.

796
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: It was just something that started happening. So yeah, I

797
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: mean it all all begins with the first Mission Impossible,

798
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: which was this, as I mentioned, like this dynamic, atmospheric

799
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: spy thriller by our one of our favorite great weirdos, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Aupart Still yees still.

801
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: I think it's a really fantastic movie.

802
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: I have it on multiple different I have it on VHS,

803
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: I have it on DVD.

804
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: It's just something I want to own. I want to

805
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: watch again. It's intimate and kind of filled with betrayal.

806
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: I think it establishes a lot of the twists, and

807
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 3: it's far like the franchise is filled with outrageous twists

808
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: and this definitely kind of establishes that with all of

809
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: the mask reveals. But it's more of like a classical

810
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: political thriller than it is a wild stump movie. But

811
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: it does set up the framework for the franchise having

812
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: some really incredible step pieces. In this case, the most

813
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: dangerous stump was actually the exploding fish tank, the chewing

814
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: gum exploding fish tank, because Cruise has talked about how

815
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: basically it was sixteen tons of water and glass that

816
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: had to explode on set and for some reason him

817
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: and the stunt coordinator just couldn't kind of communicate properly

818
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: about timing. So he has a lot of like feelings

819
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: about how that was surprisingly kind of dangerous and he

820
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: did it himself, it wasn't a stunt actor. And obviously

821
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: I think the most memorable moment for me in this film,

822
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: and I think about it a lot because I watch

823
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: this film on VHS when I was a kid, and

824
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: there were two moments that really scared me. The beginning

825
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: when the guy.

826
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: Is on the roof of the elevator.

827
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: And also the end when Tom Cruise ends up hanging

828
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: on the train and then the helicopter is like Blaied

829
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: is like one meter from him.

830
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Speaker 1: Now Emilio, Yeah, right, coach of the Mighty Ducks hockey

831
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Speaker 1: team who.

832
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't go well for him. I had many nightmares about

833
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 2: the elevator.

834
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, the train sequence is actually interesting because it

835
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: was still like surrounded by one hundred and forty maper

836
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: our winds to make it look like it he's laying

837
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: on top of the train, but it's all green screened, right,

838
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: which is funny because now we know that he would

839
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: kind of do that in real life if he had

840
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: the option now. But it was definitely a kind of

841
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: classic Hollywood slighterpand that established him as an action star.

842
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: But in the much maligned Mission Impossible To by John Wu,

843
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: which I still enjoy, as you guys all know, it

844
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: was interesting because that actually still stands the opening of

845
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: that film as one of the most dangerous stunts he's

846
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: ever done, which was he free climbed these immense kind

847
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: of they were created rock faces and the famous Oakley's

848
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 3: opening where he throws the Oakley's ass. And John Wu

849
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: did speak quite extensively to entertain Weekly in two thousand

850
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: about how he did not want Tom Cruise to do

851
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: that stunt. He said, I was like, really mad he

852
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: wanted to do it. I tried to stop him.

853
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

854
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: I was so scared. I was sweating. I couldn't even

855
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: watch the monitor when we shock. I'm like Tom Crase,

856
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: what are you doing to John Wu? Like let this

857
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: man live?

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Speaker 1: I also, could you imagine like coming over from from

859
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: Hong Kong and being like, oh my god, I has

860
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: a Sum Cruise movie and he might die, see imagining

861
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: being like the director who killed Tom Curls.

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00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think that for whatever reason, that must be

863
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: part of what inspires Tom Cruise, because like, he is

864
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: not the last director that is going to feel that

865
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: way about Tom Cruise being stunt. But even though the

866
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 3: movie is not necessarily beloved, that opening sequence is super iconic.

867
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: And the fact that they had like a Metallica tie

868
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: in video to that, I think also kind of helped

869
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: cement it, and it kind of expanded his mission to

870
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: become like the A list stunt director. Interestingly, Mission Impossible three,

871
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: directed by jj Abrams might have heard of him. That

872
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: is like a stunt heavy movie, but a lot more

873
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: kind of He's flinging himself from one skyscraper to another

874
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: in Shanghai. There's an explosion as he tries to run

875
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: away from Davian and it's a car explosion, and Tom

876
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: Cruise actually did end up breaking two ribs during that,

877
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: but it's not necessarily the most remembered of his you

878
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: know stunts. Really that becomes mission impossible for ghost Protocol,

879
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: where under the keen eye of director Brad Bird, who

880
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure also did not want him to do this,

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00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: Tom Cruise decided that he was going to climb the

882
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Speaker 3: tallest building in the world, the bers Khalifa, and he

883
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: was actually gonna do it, no stunt people. And that

884
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: was also the first one. I think you'll remember this.

885
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: This is like twenty eleven. That was the one where

886
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: they were like advertising the movie on the stunt. That's

887
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: where that part of the franchise begins, which now is

888
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: a huge part of.

889
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: The movies, huge marketing push around that stunt pictures of

890
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise with the thumbs up on top of the

891
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: Bruskale for emerging and this is months before the film.

892
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just completely wild.

893
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: They would contest with like real life sandstorms, multiple technical

894
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: difficulties to bring it to life. They actually had to

895
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: get permission from the bersh Khalifa to break multiple windows

896
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: on the building so they could basically attach Cruise on

897
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: different points of the building with the safety line. But

898
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: he still could have died. And I would say that

899
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: even though I don't know many people who would say

900
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: Mission Impossible for is necessarily their favorite. It is the

901
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: kind of the fast and furious of this franchise where

902
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: this is when they've reinvigorated the franchise. Everyone's talking about

903
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: the death defying stunts. Everyone's talking about Tom Cruise.

904
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: The image of him on the.

905
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: Bersh Khalifer with the glasses is very iconic and hilariously.

906
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: When I rewatched this movie, it's quite funny because actually

907
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: all the scenes around the Bersh Khalifa stuff and in

908
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: the bers Khalifer are so funny and like well done

909
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: that the stunt is almost secondary to the actual narrative

910
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: of the movie. But when it came to how we

911
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: were looking at Tom Cruise and how we were looking

912
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: at these stunts, it became, you know, a kind of

913
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 3: a game changer for the franchise and for his career.

914
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 3: And if we just take the way and our mission,

915
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: if we choose to accept it, is to listen to

916
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: some messages from our sponsors, We'll be right back.

917
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: And we're back. We're back.

918
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: So this is where I would say that Mission Impossible

919
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: becomes the franchise that it is now, and that is

920
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: because in Mission Impossible five Rogue Nation.

921
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: I do think maybe the best.

922
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: This is our joint best of the later the later franchises.

923
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: This is the one that I rewatched the most. I

924
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: saw this in the movie theater.

925
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: I thought it was a villain, great villain, so engaging, great.

926
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Stunts, marvelified in the best kind of way.

927
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: Yes, kind of snap.

928
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: Up and it's we were kind of talking about this

929
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: off camera where it was like, actually, this Ethan Hunt

930
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: has always been kind of written sassily, and so by

931
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: the time you get here, when the mcu is having

932
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: that huge impact, this becomes, oh, we can streamline this

933
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: into like a bantery team, kind of like mcuh meets

934
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: the A team and that's kind of what they go

935
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 3: for for the rest of it. And I love that.

936
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: So this is his first.

937
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: Collaboration with Christoph mcquarie, who's still making the movies now,

938
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: who is the director of The Final Reckoning, and the

939
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: opening of the movie is Tom Cruise clinging to the

940
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: side of a real life plane. Still one of the

941
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: most kind of this is like up there with your

942
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 3: your classic stunt people, best ever stunts.

943
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: That have been put to screen.

944
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 3: It was also the first stunt that made Cruise basically

945
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: like question himself, as he revealed in a chat with

946
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: Jimmy Fallon, he was like, they strap me on the

947
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: plane beforehand, and then they start the engines. Then we

948
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: taxi down the runway, and he the pilot was basically like,

949
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: you gotta be you know, doing it in the right

950
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: direction and making sure that it's hitting the future, don't

951
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: hit the fuselage, and da da da da. And basically

952
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: as it was going on, Tom Cruise admitted that he

953
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: was like, oh, like, maybe this isn't such a good idea. Like,

954
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: as that plane is going up into the sky, He's like,

955
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: I don't think this is a good idea, but I

956
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: can't tell anyone because the whole crew is on the plane,

957
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: which I think is actually incredible, incredibly relatable. You get

958
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: to the event, you don't want to do the work,

959
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: and you're like, well, everyone's here, I gotta do it anyway.

960
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: But that plane would be a huge kind of game

961
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: changer for the franchise.

962
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: Again, you start promoting the movies on Cruise doing these events,

963
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: and this is where he starts to establish himself to

964
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: the point where like at Cinema Con a couple of

965
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: years ago, he filmed a special video of himself on

966
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: an old timey plan and being like welcome back to.

967
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: The movies, like get your popcorn.

968
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: And he becomes this kind of advocate for cinema the

969
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 3: way that we've seen him promoting Sinners Barbenheimer, and.

970
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: He often will do it with like a crazy stunt.

971
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: Recently, for the premiere of the Dead of a Final

972
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: Final Reckoning, he was just standing on top of the

973
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 3: Imax Theater in the UK, which is like a three

974
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 3: hundred foot tall, like circular building.

975
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: No one knows why he was there, No one knows

976
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: he just he just did it. And so then that's

977
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: when we enter this.

978
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: Era of stunts in mission impossible movies. Like in Fallout,

979
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: which is another great movie. I loved the addition of

980
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: Henry Carville. I thought the plot and that was really fun.

981
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: He did a twenty five thousand foot halo jump out.

982
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: Of altitude low opening.

983
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: Yes, like he is jumping out of that plane, causing

984
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 3: everyone on that set to have like deep deep anxiety issues.

985
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: And then like for you know, so Dead Reckoning, I

986
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 3: would say probably the most famous stunt of all of these,

987
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 3: and the one you know they were doing ten minute

988
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 3: previews of this stunt before the movie came out in Imax,

989
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: and this is the stunt where Tom Cruise drives his

990
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 3: motorbike up a mountain and then just drives over the

991
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: mountain parachutes out to get onto the Orient Express, the

992
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: legendary trade.

993
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: He said, he said, Michelle Yo and Super Cup forget you,

994
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm about to triple up you, quadruple

995
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: up you.

996
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: Why isn't Michelle Yobin in one of these movies? By

997
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 3: the way, that's the reboot. That's the reboot, and that

998
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 3: all leads us to Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, which

999
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: promises to have multiple insane set pieces. As director Christopher

1000
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 3: macquarie te's that can, he said, He's in a biplane,

1001
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: completely alone at the controls, and the biplane stuffers some damage.

1002
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: Spoiler, there's tension.

1003
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: In this scene, Cruise was essentially acting as the higher

1004
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: crew from the plane. Mcquarie explained that because at ten

1005
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 3: thousand feet above the African landscape, he was completely alone.

1006
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: Up there.

1007
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 3: Tom is lighting the shot by how he's positioning the

1008
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 3: plane and its relationship to the sun, and he's operating

1009
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: the focus just off camera. He is the crew in

1010
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: every single shot you're seeing and nobody tells you to stop.

1011
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: I feel like we should probably have told him to

1012
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: stop at some point before this.

1013
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: I know he's gotta stop. I think he got stop.

1014
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: The thing is like, does he want to die on screen?

1015
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: That's like I feel like they were still released the movie,

1016
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 3: but for now he's still alive.

1017
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: This reminds me of a Dustin Hoffman quote. Dustin Hoffman,

1018
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: I believe this was from Dustin Hoffman's in the Actress Studio.

1019
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: He's talking about doing Marathon Man with Why am I?

1020
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: He talked about doing Marathon Man with Sir Laurence Olivier,

1021
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: who at that time was very.

1022
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: Ill mm hmm.

1023
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: And he asked, Sir Lawrence, like, why do we do this?

1024
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: You know? Why? Why do we? Why are we compelled

1025
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: to be actors? What is it about this life? You know?

1026
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: And Olivier leaned towards him and he would he you know,

1027
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: very ill, but his you know, his voice kind of

1028
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: changes says, you want to know why, my dear boy.

1029
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: He goes and he leans in close to Dustin Hoffman

1030
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: and he goes, look at me, look at me, look

1031
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: at me. Look And I really think that's it, Like

1032
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: you know if you're an actor. Some of this is

1033
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: you're a fucking ham. You're a ham since kid, you

1034
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: love everybody looking at you.

1035
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 3: You're doing a performance with your cousin's at the Christmas Pie,

1036
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: Like you're a performer.

1037
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: You need that. And I think Tom Cruise is like

1038
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: maybe the most yeah, you know, pure example of that,

1039
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: because yeah, man, it's like you're killing us here. You're

1040
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: gonna don't please don't die on a biplane like over Kenya,

1041
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing?

1042
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: We don't, we gonna do that. We'll be right back

1043
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: after a message from us onces We're back.

1044
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Jason, what is your favorite almost memorable stunt from

1045
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: this series?

1046
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: Memorable? I mean, there's too many to mention. I'll just

1047
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: say my favorites. My favorite the Knocklists stealing at Cia

1048
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: is I think still my favorite. But having rewatched all

1049
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: these movies recently, the car chases, we kind of just

1050
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: forget about how amazing the car chases are because.

1051
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: I think it's so much else going on.

1052
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the car chase in Man, the car chase

1053
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: in Wait, which is is it?

1054
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: The dead reckoning one with him and Grace whether and

1055
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: the tiny car.

1056
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: No it's okay. That's the car chase in in Rogue

1057
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: Nation when he's in the car with Benji and you know, Ilsa,

1058
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: I believe just like stolen the disc and they're kind

1059
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: of chasing her, but they're also running from other people

1060
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: in the cops. And Ethan drives backwards like down a

1061
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: set of flying like across like this raised position, jumping

1062
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: like over this set of steps, and then the car

1063
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: rolls and you see it. There's a camera in the car,

1064
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: so you see the airbags go up and the car

1065
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: is rolling and you see Benji and Ethan like getting

1066
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: like like socks in a dryer. I watched that. I

1067
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: was like, Jesus Christ, that is cool. And it's definitely

1068
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: not one of those things where you're gonna kind of

1069
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: picking wild.

1070
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: Tom cruise stump. That'sive.

1071
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: It's watching really really impressive. What about you, No, I

1072
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: agree with you.

1073
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: I do actually think Regnation there is that scene at

1074
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: the beginning of our infornation where that oil in the

1075
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: van and then the band like falls into the river

1076
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like they're trying to get escape,

1077
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: and like that was really good. I think another moment

1078
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: and this is definitely just great stunt choreography I get

1079
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: and kind of you know, fun fighting.

1080
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: But the Walker fight.

1081
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 3: In Fallout where yeah, you know, he really famously kind

1082
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: of like he kind of like cocks his fists and

1083
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: therein I love a good classic bathroom fight, and I

1084
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: think that's one of the great bathroom fights. I think

1085
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: I actually got to write a bathroom fight's list based

1086
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: on that, which I feel very blessed about.

1087
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: I would also just.

1088
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: Say I think memorably like and I again me and

1089
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: you definitely have a nostalgia connection to the first movie.

1090
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: But I really remember and just that feeling of like.

1091
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: How cool the explosive gum was when he blew up

1092
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 3: the fish tank and then that wall of war. Yeah,

1093
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: red Light, green Light. So I just think there's so

1094
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: many and I honestly think it's it's very interesting to

1095
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: see a movie like this in the current comp and

1096
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 3: the franchise like this, in the current conversation around stunt work,

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Speaker 3: because this will be a movie that is eligible for

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00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: that but first stunt movie or maybe that's twenty seven.

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00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: Cruise is gonna try and get it, basically, like get

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: it what this is everything he's been working for. He

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: is essentially like an advocate in this space. But I

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00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: think it's very interesting to see this when we're finally

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00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: having these conversations about the stunt workers, about the choreographers,

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00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: about directors like David Leach who are trying to put

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: movies out there, about films like The Fall Guy or

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Speaker 3: John Wick. You know. So Mission Impossible is very different,

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00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: but I think it fits into the conversation. And I'm

1108
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: very excited to see stunt work become something that is

1109
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: more recognized, more talked about. And yeah, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: interesting to see how that translates. Also, just ballpark guests,

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00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: what do you think that insurance premiums are like on

1112
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 3: these movies?

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00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: I can't even I truly think that's most of the budget,

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00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: because I've got to be a part of the imagine

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01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: what because surely you're ensuring mister Cruise for hundreds of

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: millions of dollars, like tens of millions, like this is

1117
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: the this is a franchise that is around a billion

1118
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: for each movie in the Ballpark. So and then you're

1119
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: talking about like future earnings, I don't eat. I could

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Speaker 1: not even imagine.

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Speaker 2: I would love to know.

1122
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: I'm very excited for the next iteration of this franchise's story,

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01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: which I think has got to be some kind of

1124
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: incredible behind the scenes book about the making of the movie.

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Speaker 2: The making of the movie.

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Speaker 3: I'm back, Yeah, I think this has got to be

1127
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 3: some kind of incredible book in the works of the

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: making of this movie. With these movies, I can't wait

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: to read that nonfiction behind the scenes book about this franchise,

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Speaker 3: about the way the studios must have been so scared,

1131
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: and about the way that Cruz has actually kind of

1132
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: essentially managed to make this his I can do whatever

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: I want franchise, which I don't think we've seen the

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01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: likes of that with any even like you know, Robert

1135
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: Danny Junr as iron Man arguably like the biggest box

1136
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: office draw for the last kind of fifteen years. Even

1137
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: he was still working within the framework of those stories

1138
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: and what he could do and what he couldn't do,

1139
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: and I'm sure there was a lot of collaboration there.

1140
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: He brought Tony to life in a way that launched

1141
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: the you know, one of the biggest franchises on Earth.

1142
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 3: But Tom Cruise can literally just be like, hey, guys,

1143
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: I want to drive off a cliff, and they have

1144
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: to be like, okay.

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01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: Sure, let's let's figure it out.

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: And I want to say, like, this article is not

1147
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: the kind of like the essay that I wrote as

1148
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 3: this omnibus is not even like covering every single stunt,

1149
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: Like there are so many stunts.

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: You can't even kind of comprehend.

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01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: Even in Dead Reckoning the stuff with the Orient Express

1152
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: where they're kind of jumping through the can marriages as

1153
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: they fall out.

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01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: Now obviously they're not on a real train over.

1155
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: A you know, a cliff, but they're still having to

1156
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: do incredible choreography and stump work and to make those

1157
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: scenes work. And I think that these are some of

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: the most still some of the most engaging and kind

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: of dynamic action movies that we have in the cinema.

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Speaker 1: And that's without even mentioning the fight choreography, which has

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01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: exactly really evolved over the years to I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think the bathroom point is a high point, yes,

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01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: for the fight choreography and the Mission Impossible franchise.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: Such a cool looking fight with people flying through tile pipes,

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01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: getting pulled out of the wall. You know, there's that

1167
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: wonderful moment where the guy they think is Lark who

1168
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: we actually, I don't think ever find out who the

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01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: guy is. No, has Walker like on his knees by

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01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: the hair and like stares down Cruise and then like

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01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: kicks Walk like punches Walker in the head and then

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01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: kicks him away, and Hunt has it to be like,

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01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't know if I can take

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01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: this guy. It's a wonderful fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really cool.

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Speaker 1: And to have that high point like happened this late

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Speaker 1: in the franchise, I think is really cool.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree, really really great enough.

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Speaker 1: And now part two of the Mission Impossible Final Reckoning Omnabai,

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Speaker 1: this time about the Mission Impossible television series done done

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01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six. Mission Impossible burst onto CBS's airwaves

1182
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: with a brassy, lallow shifting theme in five four time

1183
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: and the simple premise about a team of covert agents

1184
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: taking on impossible missions every single week. Creator Bruce Geller

1185
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: fused this action television show with Hollywood heist thrills and

1186
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: lots of Cold War cloak and dagger themes and drama,

1187
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,479
Speaker 1: reportedly inspired by the Intricate Caper film, which we've talked

1188
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: about on some previous episode's top copy. The Impossible Mission

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01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: Force IMF was like a ragtag collection of specialists. You

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: had the muscle man Willie, the Master of the Sky's rollin,

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01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: the fashion model turn agent Cinnamon, and the electronic was Barney.

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: And each episode, of course, opened with the iconic taped

1193
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: briefing your mission. If you choose to accept it, that's

1194
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: self destructed in five seconds, a gimmick that became an

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01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: instant pop cultural staple. TV producers during this period were

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01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: under pressure to diversify their casts and to include black

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01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: characters in roles that were not like negative enter Barney Collier,

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Speaker 1: played by Greg Morris, one of the first black actors

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Speaker 1: in a primetime ensemble. TV Guide nineteen sixty six hailed

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: Barney as one of television's quote new Negro figures. To

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: show you how unused to talking about black people on

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: television the press was at this time. He was the

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: team's indispensable tech expert, consistently saving the day with gadgets

1204
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: and know how, and it's notable looking back how Barney

1205
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: was very stoic, completely one dimensional in his dedication to

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01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: his job, with a portrayal that avoided any hint of

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: racial conflict, personal conflict, and This was part of Bruce

1208
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: Geller creator Bruce Geller's general aversion to character backstory. He

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01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: believed that the Secret Agents should be blank slates, as

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01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: featureless as the masks they were, and that we shouldn't

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: know really anything about any of the backstories of any

1212
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: of these characters, and he would veto attempts by writers

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01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: to give the IMF operatives personal lives. This, of course,

1214
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: was an era of civil rights struggle, and so you

1215
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: could kind of frame simply not making an issue of

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01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: Barney's personal feelings, his personal feelings, but the work he

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01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: does as itself kind of a statement. You know, this

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01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: integrated team that was functioning as equals, quietly embodying this

1219
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: American ideal of equality and cooperation in a way that

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Speaker 1: the general American television audience could find palatable, not disruptive. Safe.

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Speaker 1: The IMF's missions often dropped them into global hot zones,

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01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: which were thinly disguised fictional countries. This is the Vietnam

1223
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: War era, of course. Each week, Phelps's team might be

1224
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: outfoxing some iron curtainspiring or our top lane to some

1225
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: despots somewhere in Latin America, or thwarting a shadowy terrorist

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: plot they took on quote hostile Iron Curtain, government's Third

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Speaker 1: World dictators, corrupt industrials, and crime laers, basically every boogeyman

1228
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: in the Western Cold War playbook. American audiences sureley got

1229
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: a vicarious thrill about watching these the good guys right

1230
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: do do stuff to outwit the evil communists and the

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01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: various crooked regimes, reinforcing this idea that US spies, unofficial

1232
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: US spies, were the good guys who were who are

1233
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: the heroes and keeping the world safe for democracy and capitalism, etc.

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01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: In fact, the show's villains were explicitly written to be

1235
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: like almost cartoonishly villainous, so that the team's elaborate heist

1236
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: type hijinks against them would seem justified, breaking and entering deception,

1237
01:07:55,480 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: fake executions in the form of fiction firing squads. Don't worry.

1238
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: That's all fine, because these are the good guys. As

1239
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: one critic later observed, Mission Impossible reflected a very nineteen

1240
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: sixties faith, mid nineteen sixties faith that we are good,

1241
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: therefore the ends justify the means. In foreign policy, the

1242
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: IMF routinely interfered in other nations affairs, set up coups

1243
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 1: set up enemy officials to look like traders and criminals,

1244
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: even if they were just doing their job. It was

1245
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: essentially espionage as American wish fulfillment, and it's no coincidence

1246
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: that abroad the show gave viewers an exaggerated impression of

1247
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: the CIA's abilities. Breaking the law in this case wasn't

1248
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: just acceptable, it was like a heroic way of doing

1249
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: business for the US regime. To keep things politically palatable,

1250
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: the series was deliberately vague about a lot of stuff.

1251
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: Real countries were not named. The missions took place in

1252
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: like Balok or Sentales or some other weirdly named Eastern

1253
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: European or Latin American republic, but everyone knew who these

1254
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: bad guys were supposed to be. You've got like the

1255
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: tyrannical general with a fake goatee in an Eastern European accent,

1256
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: some power hungry Caribbean strongman stealing for an aid. The

1257
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: IMF's exploits made covert American intervinsion look cool. That was

1258
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: the goal, to make it look cool. The team to

1259
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: just foil villains, they also spread the gospel of American

1260
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: style freedom and capitalism, often by tricking oppressed peoples into

1261
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: revolting against their oppressors. In one episode, for instance, the

1262
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: team rigs a prison camps communications to spark an inmate uprising,

1263
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: manipulating the politics of a fictional dictatorship in a way

1264
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: that would benefit US politics. By the early seventies, the

1265
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: world had changed. Of course, America is by now trying

1266
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: to extricate itself from Vietnam. You've got the Watergate scandal

1267
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: kind of brewing and the ensuing revelations around that, all

1268
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: of which which unmasked the ethical and the ethical kind

1269
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: of lows that the US government was willing to go to,

1270
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: and certainly the FBI was willing to go to in

1271
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: spying on its own people, civil rights organizations, etc. So

1272
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: the show wisely pivoted to safer ground. Now it was

1273
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: mob bosses, crime syndicates here in the US. This made

1274
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: production cheaper, no uniforms, but it's clear the whole kind

1275
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,440
Speaker 1: of format was running its course, and after seven seasons,

1276
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: Mission Impossible was done in nineteen seventy three. Two years

1277
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 1: later nineteen seventy five, you get the Church Commission Congressional Commission,

1278
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: which looked into the acts of various US intelligence outfits

1279
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: here in the US and abroad, and that shattered the

1280
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: myth of any kind of ethical US intelligence apparatus, with

1281
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: revelations about domestic mind control projects, spying on civil rights

1282
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: organizations overseas, coup's assassination plots successful and unsuccessful, etc. In

1283
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: the late eighties, Cold Wars winding down, but on TV

1284
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: the Fight returns. ABC resurrect's Mission Impossible in nineteen eighty eight,

1285
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: dropping Jim Phelps still Peter Graves into a new series

1286
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: of missions, and this revival was born out of the

1287
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood writer strike of the time and a dose of nostalgia.

1288
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 1: Because they couldn't write new scripts, the show producers literally

1289
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: just filmed the nineteen sixty six the nineteen seventy three

1290
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: scripts on several occasions. The new Mission Impossible is filmed

1291
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: in Australia on a very tight budget, with an eager cast,

1292
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: including Phil Morris, son of Barney Morris, who was the

1293
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: original gadget guy in the first Mission Impossible series. Not

1294
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: much had changed in terms of the show's mission, but

1295
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: now they were using you know, computers and and and

1296
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: digital mini tapes instead of actual audio tapes. What had changed, though,

1297
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: was a political climate. This Reagan era things had gone right.

1298
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: Word towards the end of the Cold War seems like

1299
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: America's winning, and there was this resurgence of gung ho

1300
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: like patriotism. Black and white depictions of good and evil

1301
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: action heroes are back, you know. Rambo, Top Gun and

1302
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: Mission Impossible dutifully followed suit. The show's tone nudged to

1303
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: the right and embraced even less subtlety. One episode, The

1304
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: Wall finds Phelps and team in East Berlin orchestrating the

1305
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: escape of a bunch of dissidents and uh and one

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Speaker 1: part this like East German criminal colonel literally as he's

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Speaker 1: turning away, steps on this little girl's like doll and

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Speaker 1: smushes it into the into the mud while arresting her family,

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Speaker 1: just to show you like how evil the communists were. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the IMF team during the period, we'd even hand out

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Speaker 1: US citizenships to grateful defectors, you know, as they're fleeing

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Speaker 1: their home countries. A private spy team acting as basically

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Speaker 1: like the one stop shop for getting into America and

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Speaker 1: becoming part of the free world. It played and was

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Speaker 1: like a Reagan era fantasy confident simplified heroes, the US first,

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Speaker 1: everybody else, The nineteen eighty eight revival also reflected the

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Speaker 1: action kind of language of the time, more explosions, more action,

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Speaker 1: more gunfights, etc. But for all the tweaks, the new

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Speaker 1: Mission Impossible could not recapture the magic and it only

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Speaker 1: lasted two seasons and then it was gone by the nineties.

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Speaker 1: With Mission Impossible off TV for several years, its legacy

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Speaker 1: was looking towards a renewal once more, with Tom Cruise

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Speaker 1: getting involved in acquiring the IP nineteen ninety six You've

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Speaker 1: Got the new Mission Impossible movie backed by Tom Cruise's

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Speaker 1: new production company, Cruise Wagner. Interesting note about the first film,

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Speaker 1: there was some controversy about the way that Jim Phelps

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Speaker 1: was depicted. So in the original show, Jim Phelps's hero, right,

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Speaker 1: he is the leader of this Mission Impossible team of

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Speaker 1: heroic spies that goes around the world promoting American freedom.

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Speaker 1: In the new movie in nineteen ninety six is Mission Impossible,

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Speaker 1: Jim Phelps is the bad guy, the guy who turns

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Speaker 1: on the IMF, betrays his team and his agents and

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Speaker 1: has them all killed, and this actually enraged some of

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Speaker 1: the cast. Actor Greg Morris, who played Barney, was disgusted

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Speaker 1: by the film's handling of Phelps. He walked out of

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Speaker 1: the theater and called it an abomination. Peter Graves himself

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Speaker 1: declined a cameo in the film because he'd learned that

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Speaker 1: his character returned it to the bad guy and very interesting,

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Speaker 1: like footnote to all of this, and all of that

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Speaker 1: really tracks with the way the culture shifted over these decades.

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Speaker 1: The Mission Impossible films reflect a culture that had fully

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Speaker 1: internalized and digested the revelations of the previous decades. Now

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Speaker 1: the enemy is not the USSR, it's not Eastern European generals.

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Speaker 1: It's not Latin American dictators or fictional you know, war lords,

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Speaker 1: or even organized crime figures. Now it's the Spies themselves,

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Speaker 1: cut loose from the Cold War and its larger ideological

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Speaker 1: struggle out looking to make a buck on the side.

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Speaker 1: All right, well that was Mission Impossible to fight, a

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Speaker 1: reckoning and absolutely insane film.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely go see the movie there, because you're not going

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Speaker 3: to see another movie like that.

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Speaker 4: Have really not, don't know, maybe in Bodiacs Jason Stibbe, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 4: maybe that lady. If you're feeling brave, go seeing forty X.

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Speaker 4: In the next few episodes of excervation, we're diving into news.

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Speaker 4: Monday is sendoff for the Nintendo Switch. On Tuesday, John

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Speaker 4: Wick her Speed Recap, and on Wednesday a new episode

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Speaker 4: of Your Wrong Friend.

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Speaker 1: It's a BlimE versus Skyrim. And finally Friday, we're doing

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Speaker 1: another special on some movies with another popcorn pop out.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepcion and Rosie

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Speaker 1: Night and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joe Alminique and Aaron Kolefman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abusafar.

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Speaker 2: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bai Wag.

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Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Saul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and Heidi.

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Speaker 2: Our disc called moderate, though