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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craiggriolu, Paul Calvic, and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 4: So, gentlemen, welcome to the final week of the offseason.

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Speaker 4: If you haven't checked your calendar recently, one week from today,

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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals report to camp. In fact, there are

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Speaker 4: eight teams in which their rookies are reporting today. So yes,

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Speaker 4: football is upon us. A lot to get into. But

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Speaker 4: first things first, Paul, did you know that we are

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Speaker 4: in the midst of a star, a viral superstar. Here

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Speaker 4: in Kyle Vannenbasch viral viral.

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Speaker 5: Let's see, he's been retired for a few years, so

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Speaker 5: normally if he's gone viral at this point in his life,

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Speaker 5: it's not a good thing. So what are you talking about, Craig.

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Speaker 4: The Netflix highly touted Netflix series Receivers. Last year was Quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Now it's Receivers. Yeah, Kyle Vannibasch has a cameo in

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Speaker 4: episode one that I did not know about until I

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Speaker 4: walked into the studio earlier today.

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Speaker 5: Do tell Kyle, do not be humble. Let's end modest.

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Speaker 6: Let's go all right, and I'm about to be really

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Speaker 6: humble and modest because if you blink, you're going to

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Speaker 6: miss it. But it's in like the first thirty seconds

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Speaker 6: of the first episode. Peyton Manning makes a reference to

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Speaker 6: the offensive line and you can kind of see me

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Speaker 6: getting stoned at the line of scrimmage and trying to

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Speaker 6: spin out of a block. So, yeah, I just surprised

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Speaker 6: me sitting on the couch. Somehow they dug up the

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Speaker 6: old black and white film and they found me in

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Speaker 6: some footage of me back out on the field.

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Speaker 5: That was not at the point in Peyton's career. Late

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Speaker 5: in his career where if you got within ten feet

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Speaker 5: of him, he went down right and you were credited

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Speaker 5: with a sack. You never had the pleasure of getting

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Speaker 5: one of those gifted sacks, did you.

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Speaker 6: I did not. I was never gifted at Peyton Manning sack.

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Speaker 6: He was actually when when I was playing, say, one

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Speaker 6: of the hardest quarterbacks to get on the ground.

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Speaker 3: He was tough.

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Speaker 4: Now, you referenced that you were stone, But the second

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Speaker 4: part of that comment, I think all edge rushers need

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Speaker 4: to hear you spun away. Now do you know if

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Speaker 4: you actually got to Peyton Manning?

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Speaker 6: Now, I'm sure I didn't get to him on that play.

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Speaker 6: I'm absolutely certain. I was still on the last scrimmage

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Speaker 6: and he was surveying the field. So you know the

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Speaker 6: reason he was so hard to get to is he

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Speaker 6: had every answer for everything, and when he was under pressure,

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Speaker 6: he would just let go of the ball. He was

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Speaker 6: smarter than me, and smarter than our defensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 6: smarter than any coach on our staff.

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Speaker 5: But apparently he's not smarter than I'm on Ross Saint Brown.

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Speaker 5: Did you see the episode where it was revealed he

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Speaker 5: is fluent in German and French, his mom's native tongue

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Speaker 5: is German, and she was insistent that kids learned German

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Speaker 5: and French. So he is fluent in three languages. So

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Speaker 5: big brain apparently, And I'm on Ross Saint Brown. Impressive.

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Speaker 4: Now we just have to wait and see what episode

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Speaker 4: two of Receivers has for Kyvin bost if we can't

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Speaker 4: make a second cameo here, but you bring up Peyton

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals franchise quarterback in Kyler Murray. Speaking of viral moments, Paul,

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Speaker 4: did you happen to see the photograph that was posted

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Speaker 4: on social media? Kyler Murray with twelve of his offensive teammates,

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Speaker 5: Even when they're on vacation, supposed to be on vacation,

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Speaker 5: they're not on vacation. I felt a little guilty about

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Speaker 5: and then when I saw that picture, I felt even worse.

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Speaker 5: that's something we haven't seen to this degree in many years.

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Speaker 5: There was a Cardinals twenty fifteen team with Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 5: not saying they're going to postseason glory like a couple

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Speaker 4: Before we get your thoughts, KVB. Here were the twelve

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Speaker 4: teammates with Kyler, James Connor, Trey Benson, two running backs,

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Speaker 4: the wide receivers Marvin Harrison Junior, Michael Wilson, Greg George,

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Speaker 4: Tredy McBride, Elijah Higgins, and Tip Rieman. Good to see

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Speaker 4: some rookies in that group. You wouldn't knew you knew

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Speaker 4: Marvin was going to be a part of that, but

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Speaker 4: it does show the level of maturity. Once again, we

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what it shows is it's a team that is

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Speaker 6: they were last year, to take that step forward. Look,

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Speaker 6: you know, I was around the league long enough, and

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Speaker 6: I was around different teams with different makeups, and you're

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Speaker 6: on there's teams in the NFL where getting some players

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Speaker 6: players won't do it. You know, they're they're only committed

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Speaker 6: his receivers. With these these you know, to a large degree,

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Speaker 6: signs of, you know, a promising season. You know, we

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Speaker 6: Would that took two playoff teams on the road in

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Speaker 6: And you know, one of the things that you hear

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Speaker 6: heard an interview yesterday with Trey McBride, is they want

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Speaker 6: to protect Kyler Murray's legacy. Like they they've developed that

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Speaker 4: In addition to what we saw here in that photo,

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Speaker 4: we've seen Kyler hang out with James Connor. We've seen

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Speaker 4: Kyler hang out with his offensive lineman at different events

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Speaker 4: around town, different events around the country. James Connor on

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Speaker 4: his quarterback developing into that more mature leader for this team.

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Speaker 7: He's the leader. And I just say that because he's

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Speaker 7: and that's all we can do is just try our best,

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Speaker 7: and that's what he's doing. So it's been awesome to see. Man,

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Speaker 7: we've been to a couple of things together. We got

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Speaker 7: even closer me and him, but also him and his

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Speaker 7: offensive linemen and stuff. So man, he's he's gonna have

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Speaker 7: a great feature in this league. That's because he's putting

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Speaker 4: Now does this mean that this team is headed to

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Speaker 4: the playoffs and they're winning ten games. No, But if

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Speaker 4: they do get to that point this season, Paul, then yeah,

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Speaker 4: you can point to some of these moments here in

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Speaker 5: Think about this offseason compared to last offseason. Think of

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Speaker 5: that's got to count for something. That is to mean

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Speaker 5: something once we get to the regular season. I'm guessing

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Speaker 5: that's gonna pay off. If they were able to do

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Speaker 5: what they were able to do with Kyler, especially that

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Speaker 5: without a training camp, basically without an offseason, and Kyler

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Speaker 5: shown up in the middle of a regular season. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I think it's intriguing, right, it's compelling. What is possible? Now?

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Speaker 5: Here's the other thing. When James Connor talks and you

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Speaker 5: You have ninety guys right now, eventually fifty three who

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Speaker 5: more than just a.

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Speaker 4: Paycheck, and they're not just waiting until training camp to

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Speaker 4: put the foot on the pedal. It's started in April

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Speaker 4: and it continues through OTA's Mini camp. But that six

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I love it, you know, look, the off

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Speaker 6: season for players, it's becoming less and less. And you know,

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Speaker 6: now there's these rumors that it's you know, training camps

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Speaker 6: is the onus becomes the players themselves have to be professionals.

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Speaker 6: You have to learn how to prepare yourselves because you

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Speaker 6: don't have strength coaches yelling at you. You don't have

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Speaker 6: had to do. You know these players are it's showing

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Speaker 6: their true professionalism that on their own, they're getting that

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Speaker 6: And you know, it's it's like, as Pouli said, it's

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Speaker 6: to be determined how much this matters. But I can

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Speaker 6: promise you the relationships matter, the the bonding, the closeness

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Speaker 6: because when you know games are tight, you're gonna lean

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Speaker 6: other that you're gonna regret later. But that's what teammates

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Speaker 6: need to do is when you have that type of relationship,

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Speaker 6: you can hold each other accountable, you can pick each

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Speaker 4: And the guy leading all of this is k One.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear from Kyler Murray on his growth as a person.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of like in the natural maturational life. You know,

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Speaker 4: Much better to be talking about this as opposed to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what a blessing it is to have almost zero

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Speaker 4: He had six starts last season, nine total games. Talking

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Speaker 5: It was remarkable we had him on the Big Red

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Speaker 6: do you you know, do things early in the first

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Speaker 6: and second quarter to set things up in the third

433
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Speaker 6: and fourth quarter when it matters the most. And you know,

434
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Speaker 6: with where he was and the rotation that he had,

435
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Speaker 6: sometimes that's difficult. You don't necessarily get into the field

436
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Speaker 6: of a game. You can't set up an offensive lineman

437
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Speaker 6: when you're in for two plays out for two plays. So,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think he consciously did things this offseason

439
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Speaker 6: to change up his game a little bit, but more importantly,

440
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Speaker 6: change up his body physically, add some mass, add some

441
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Speaker 6: size so that he's not he doesn't have any weaknesses

442
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Speaker 6: in his game. And you know, I'm excited to see him.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited to see some of the battles, particularly in

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Speaker 6: training camp, to see what he can bring and how

445
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Speaker 6: dynamic he is as a pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: Four sacks, six quarterback hits a year ago. But to

447
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Speaker 4: your point, Kyle, can you stay on the field? Can

448
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Speaker 4: you be a three down outside linebacker. Here's head coach

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon on Ojilari being a little bit more consistent

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Speaker 4: in that run game in addition to the pass game.

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Speaker 10: He's doing a good job of consistency in the running

452
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Speaker 10: pass game. I think he's added a little bit of muscle,

453
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Speaker 10: a little bit of weight. The strength staff has done

454
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Speaker 10: a really good job with him. He's done a good

455
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Speaker 10: job of beefing up a little bit. I think that's

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Speaker 10: helping him. You know, at the point of attack. You know,

457
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Speaker 10: the more a force you can apply into the ground

458
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Speaker 10: or into your opponent, you're better off. And he's doing

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Speaker 10: a good job of that.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting. Last week, Nick Role it's a defensive coordinator,

461
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Speaker 5: told the media that he challenged Bjoejalari going into this

462
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Speaker 5: offseason to be better in the run game, in particular

463
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Speaker 5: with his pad level and the ability to set the edge.

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Speaker 5: As Kyle mentioned, o Jelai put on a good ten

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Speaker 5: pounds or so in the offseason, still maintain his athleticism.

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Speaker 5: So now everyone's really intrigued when you get to camp.

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Speaker 5: In fact, that's my question to you, Kyle, when you

468
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Speaker 5: as someone who played the same position or at least

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Speaker 5: got after a quarterback like b Joe Glari and players

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Speaker 5: no players, When you get to camp, can you see

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Speaker 5: in some of the drills whether a player has in

472
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Speaker 5: detail taking that step that leap, has had that growth

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Speaker 5: from year one to year two, or do you need

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Speaker 5: game action.

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Speaker 6: You could definitely see progress. I mean, you can see

476
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Speaker 6: a player's confidence. You can see how fast is his

477
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Speaker 6: first step, what does his stride length look like, how

478
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Speaker 6: active are his hands, how hungry is he? I mean,

479
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Speaker 6: that's to me that's the biggest thing for an edge rusher.

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Speaker 6: For a rusher period is just your refusal to ever

481
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Speaker 6: give up, to keep clawing and scratching to get to

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Speaker 6: the quarterback, because a lot of it is technique, but

483
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Speaker 6: a lot of it is just how you're wired. What

484
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Speaker 6: is your attitude? Are you going to refuse to be blocked?

485
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Speaker 6: Are you gonna tell the guy across from you you

486
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Speaker 6: can't block me today? Today is my day. And once

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Speaker 6: you get that confidence, once you you know, there was

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Speaker 6: times in my career where I felt like I didn't

489
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Speaker 6: have a chance to get to the quarterback. And then

490
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Speaker 6: there was times where I didn't think anybody on the

491
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Speaker 6: football field could block me. And when you get that

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Speaker 6: level of confidence, and again it will come from training

493
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Speaker 6: camp reps, but it will particularly come from game reps

494
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Speaker 6: and success in a game and seeing the translation of

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Speaker 6: the things you've worked on in practice over and over

496
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Speaker 6: and over seeing those things that seeing the fruits of

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Speaker 6: your labor, seeing those you know come to fruition on

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Speaker 6: game day and when those things happen and those things

499
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Speaker 6: help your defense, and those things help your team win games.

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Speaker 6: That level of confidence is huge for an edge rusher.

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Speaker 5: The last question of Dennis Gardek last week was is

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Speaker 5: there a player on this roster you think is underrated

503
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Speaker 5: who's going to have a breakout year? And he said,

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Speaker 5: I think b Joe Jalari quote is going to be

505
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Speaker 5: a really special player. And Dennis guard was sort of

506
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Speaker 5: a mic drop at the very end, just named b

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Speaker 5: Joe Jalai and keep an eye on him.

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Speaker 4: Rocking a brand new uniform number wearing nine now. And

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Speaker 4: I think that first had it practice. A training camp

510
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Speaker 4: is when you'll set up to see guys, did that

511
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Speaker 4: offseason really translate into something as far as the physicality

512
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Speaker 4: and the technique, especially when you talk about that line

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Speaker 4: of scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: And then you go into the locker room talking to

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Speaker 5: the offensive lineman who went against him in some of

516
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Speaker 5: the old line D line drills, and that's when you'll

517
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Speaker 5: find out what they're seeing. Go ask the old lineman,

518
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Speaker 5: and then you can sort of pourtend what's coming in

519
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Speaker 5: a guy's year.

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Speaker 4: We do it every Tuesday year round. Here it is

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Craig Reiol, lupaulk Alvc and

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Speaker 4: Ky Ventibosch. We have hit halftime here. We come back

523
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Speaker 4: with more here on the ears on the Cardinals radio network.

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Speaker 3: Look at this bus on the grounds by the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: They have a touchdown what Nichols the Raiders picking up

526
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Speaker 2: and rumble in the end zone below Nichols.

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Speaker 11: I want us to be known as a very physical

528
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Speaker 11: defensive line, stop and running a mindset just like we

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Speaker 11: the baddest more fools walking point blank period and nobody

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Speaker 11: out physicals us.

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Speaker 2: Pulp's pressure coming, He's in trouble and down he goes

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Speaker 2: Justin Jones four and a half Sex on the season.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be a mean that's ob That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just a man's game. Like you know,

535
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Speaker 3: we're on that field and you gotta understand it's people

536
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Speaker 3: out there with kids and you know, wives and Molly

537
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: taken care of and family, all types of stuff. So

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Speaker 3: when we on that field, like either I eat or

539
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Speaker 3: you eat, and I'm not going hungry today.

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Speaker 4: Very early in free agency, the Cardinals made defensive line

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Speaker 4: a priority GM money. Austin Ford went out and signed Balala, Nichols,

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Speaker 4: Justin Jones and got a lot of guaranteed money. Doesn't

543
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Speaker 4: mean that there will be guaranteed success, but there had

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Speaker 4: better be success this season. From those two and that

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Speaker 4: defensive line overall. But you hear Nichols talk, you hear

546
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Speaker 4: Jones talk, Kyle, and I'm sure as a former player

547
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Speaker 4: on that front seven, you like what they have to say,

548
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Speaker 4: and now you hope it means something when they take

549
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 4: the field because that defensive line suspects a lot of

550
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Speaker 4: the times a year ago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just a product of injuries, but I'm

552
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Speaker 6: excited about this group. Look, I'm not sure if you

553
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Speaker 6: look around the league again and people judge your d

554
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Speaker 6: line by sacks, pressures, quarterbacks, hits, and I expect all

555
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Speaker 6: of those to improve, particularly on the interior. But I

556
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Speaker 6: think what most importantly for this defense, it's gonna be

557
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Speaker 6: a little bit in the hidden numbers. Like you have

558
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Speaker 6: to dig a little bit, because while it wasn't always

559
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Speaker 6: apparent some games, it certainly was. This team had a

560
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Speaker 6: hard time stop in the run. I mean they were

561
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Speaker 6: thirty first in the league and yards per carry, last

562
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Speaker 6: in the league in rush yards given up. And that

563
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Speaker 6: is not a formula for success for any defense. And

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Speaker 6: I understand, you know this league has changed since I've

565
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Speaker 6: been here. It's largely a passing league. But you know,

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Speaker 6: the old axiom that if you can't stop the run,

567
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Speaker 6: you can't stop anything is true. Defensive coordinators are constantly

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Speaker 6: on their heels when you know when you're in second

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Speaker 6: and four or when you're in third and one. You know,

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Speaker 6: those those fifty to fifty downs when you don't know

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Speaker 6: when you can't get them in third and longs and

572
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Speaker 6: and teams keep moving the chains and keep having success

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Speaker 6: on the ground. That is that it just doesn't work.

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Speaker 6: And this is that is what is going to change

575
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Speaker 6: with these two editions in free agency. Big strong, tough, physical,

576
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Speaker 6: nasty defensive tackles that are going to not guards into

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Speaker 6: the backfield, control the line of scrimmage, and not give

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Speaker 6: up the big running lane so the linebackers can scrape

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Speaker 6: over the top and make plays, and you know, then

580
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Speaker 6: we can get our pass rushers on the field. You know,

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Speaker 6: these guys may be six eight sack type players from

582
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Speaker 6: the inside. I don't know that for a fact, But

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Speaker 6: to me, the biggest difference with their addition will be

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Speaker 6: how this team operates on first and second down and

585
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Speaker 6: stops the run.

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Speaker 4: First line of defense, that defensive line, and then Paul

587
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Speaker 4: just watching those two players talking about Nichols and Jones

588
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Speaker 4: brand new to the Arizona Cardinals. But you watch position

589
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Speaker 4: drills and they are working out right in front of

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Speaker 4: us here on the practice fields, and you see them

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Speaker 4: take charge even though they are brand new. Yes, they

592
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Speaker 4: have that resume, but they are taking a lot of

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Speaker 4: these younger players under their wings. And hopefully, again, what

594
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Speaker 4: happens in the offseasons isn't mean success in the regular season, no,

595
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Speaker 4: but at where it's beginning, and I do think you

596
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Speaker 4: hope that that is where this defensive line is headed

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Speaker 4: a heck of a lot more success. Knock on wood,

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Speaker 4: that everyone stays healthy.

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Speaker 5: It's got to be the biggest difference this year versus

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Speaker 5: the end of last year. That d line room. You

601
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Speaker 5: were using players in December and January that you hadn't

602
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Speaker 5: used since August. Guys who are off the practice squad.

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Speaker 5: So to bring in two proven, reliable veterans, true team leaders,

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Speaker 5: guys who are plug in play. Think about what you

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Speaker 5: have to do in your division. The first team All

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Speaker 5: Pro running back in the NFL was Christian McCaffrey. Second

607
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Speaker 5: team All Pro running back in the NFL was Kyen Williams.

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Speaker 5: And then you have Seattle with Kenneth Walker and Zach charbonay,

609
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Speaker 5: you better stop the run. There's a reason the Cardinals,

610
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Speaker 5: for the first time since the divisions got realigned, went winless.

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Speaker 5: Teams were able to run on the Cardinals division games.

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Speaker 5: So you start there. You're Nick Ross talking about it recently.

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Speaker 5: You know, just the fact that Okay and Zavin Collins

614
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Speaker 5: mentioned this a year ago. There was all vanilla, just

615
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Speaker 5: trying to get the basics of a defense installed. Now,

616
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Speaker 5: because you've been in the system for a year and

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Speaker 5: you have guys who have a lot of experience and

618
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Speaker 5: played a lot of downs and reps in this league,

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Speaker 5: you can really start dialing it up. I think this

620
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Speaker 5: is where you truly see the scheme that Nick Rowss

621
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Speaker 5: wants to run, based on everyone's understanding of it and

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Speaker 5: the fact now he has weapons and legitimate NFL guys

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Speaker 5: in his D line room.

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Speaker 4: We talk a lot about stopping the run, but with

625
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Speaker 4: thatose D lineman, it's not just about stopping a run.

626
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Speaker 4: Can they rush the passer on the big red rage? Recently,

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Speaker 4: D line coach Derek LeBlanc on Nichols and Jones the

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Speaker 4: ability to get after the opposing quarterback.

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Speaker 12: One of the reasons why we have those guys. Is

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Speaker 12: you know Justin can rush the passer. I think Blao

631
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Speaker 12: shown some plays and stuff where he can rush the passer.

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Speaker 12: I know we're kind of all over the place defensively

633
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Speaker 12: up front. Three four, four to three whatever. Those guys

634
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Speaker 12: fit the bill of a guy that can be multiple,

635
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Speaker 12: that can do a number of things, that can stop

636
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Speaker 12: the run and put internal pressure on the quarterback. So

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Speaker 12: those two guys are going to be really good for us.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Jones last year four and a half

639
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Speaker 4: sacks a career high, and that would have been good

640
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Speaker 4: for second best on the Cardinals last season. So you

641
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Speaker 4: work or you add in free agency to those guys

642
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: up front. The Cardinals also added to the back end

643
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: as well. Another high priced free agent, Sean Murphy Bunting

644
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Speaker 4: added to the secondary, and automatically, Kyle he becomes your

645
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Speaker 4: number one cornerback. He has the resume, he has the experience,

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Speaker 4: and we've seen a lot of him. Again with a

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Speaker 4: young cornerback room those players around him, you need some

648
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Speaker 4: type of veteran leadership in there, and you're seeing that

649
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: early on in the offseason from Murphy Bunting.

650
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, he's taking the reins with this position group,

651
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 6: he's out there leading them. He's you know, as with

652
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 6: these defensive tackles, he's not just talking to talk. He's

653
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 6: out there doing the things that it takes to not

654
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 6: only make himself better, but lending a hand, lending an

655
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 6: ear to some of the younger players, helping them along.

656
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 6: Because look, you know, there's still a number of question

657
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 6: marks about how things are going to shake out with

658
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 6: this team and particularly in his position group room. But

659
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 6: when you have a leader that goes out there not

660
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 6: only takes care of his business, but helps raise the

661
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 6: level of every single player in that room, you know,

662
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 6: then you've got something. And to your point, you know

663
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 6: it's not a sign this guy and cross your fingers

664
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Speaker 6: and hope he has done it. He has played at

665
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 6: a very high level. He has played in some high

666
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 6: stakes games, and he brings that type of experience to

667
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 6: a relatively inexperienced room.

668
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: Five seasons last season with the Titans. Former second round

669
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Speaker 4: pick of the Buccaneers, Sean Murphy Bunting on the Big

670
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Speaker 4: Red Rage on what he believes Cardinals coaches saw him,

671
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Speaker 4: on why he was one of their top targets in

672
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: free agency.

673
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Speaker 13: They see a dog pretty much playing as simple. They

674
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 13: see a guy that can go out there and shut

675
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 13: people down. And that's just what I see in myself,

676
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 13: and that's what I do. And so we believe in

677
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 13: the same philosophies. They want me to mix up some things.

678
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 13: I know how they want me to do certain techniques

679
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 13: that I know how to play. I know how to

680
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 13: play pretty much everything I played in many different systems.

681
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 13: Lead by example, Lead the younger guys they have in

682
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 13: the room, show them that everything is possible, but at

683
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 13: the same time having an experience behind it as proof

684
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 13: that everything that I'm saying is it's happened.

685
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: Now it's just a matter who's going to be on

686
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: the opposite side of Sean. But the big thing is

687
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: is you have someone that can cover the other team's

688
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 4: number one wide receiver or number one pass catcher. And

689
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: with that addition to the front seven Paul, maybe this

690
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: secondary can get their hands on a few more balls

691
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: as far as interceptions and passes defense.

692
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, funny how that works, right? They go hand in

693
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 5: hand the pass rush and then the ability of their

694
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 5: corners and their perform rman cent production. I tell you

695
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: we all want to see Marvin Harrison JUNR we all

696
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 5: want to see Darius Robinson. You know, Trey Benson, okay,

697
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 5: But Sean Murphy Bunting is someone that Jonathan Gannon, if

698
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 5: you read between the lines of what he's told the media,

699
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: he's had his eye on him a long time. He

700
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 5: really liked him coming out of Central Michigan, where he

701
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 5: went from a walk on to a second round pick

702
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: by Tampa. Remember this is JG's area of expertise, the

703
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 5: defensive back room corners in particular. He really likes Sean

704
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 5: Murphy Bunding this sort of corner he is. He's all ball.

705
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 5: Nick Rolis joke last week, he's in my office at

706
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 5: six am. I'm like, get out of here. It's too early,

707
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 5: you know. So that's intriguing because you're right, Craig. If

708
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: you can solve cornerback one that goes a long way

709
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 5: game planning every single week, and then you can dial

710
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 5: up the rest of the guys in that room, it's.

711
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: So huge to have not only your defensive line play well,

712
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: but that secondary as well, that pass rush, the rush,

713
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 4: the coverage to mention Paul, it goes hand in hand.

714
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: But to have someone to where all right, you're gonna

715
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 4: take either that side of the field, or you're gonna

716
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: take that guy, take them out of the game plan.

717
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: And then with a young, inexperienced secondary Kyle, you can

718
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: look and maybe give a little bit more snaps to

719
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: a startling Thomas or a Keith Trell Clark or a

720
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: draft pick that you Max Melton that maybe needs a

721
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 4: little bit more seasoning. But if you have that veteran

722
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 4: one side, you feel okay with playing a younger cornerback

723
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Speaker 4: at number two.

724
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got to have a guy that can match

725
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 6: up with the other team's number one. That's got to

726
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 6: be a priority number one when you play a team

727
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 6: when you're game planning, We've we've got to be able

728
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 6: to control this guy, and we need to be able

729
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 6: to do it without help at times. You know, obviously

730
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 6: there's players in this league that you're gonna have to

731
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Speaker 6: help with. But you know, when you're playing the San

732
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 6: Francisco forty nine ers, the weapons they have, when you're

733
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 6: playing the receiving core of the Seahawks, or even the Rams,

734
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 6: they just have they have so many weapons, and so

735
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 6: what you need to do is cross out one and

736
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 6: then you figure out, Okay, how are we going to

737
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 6: handle the rest. And if you can limit that number

738
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 6: one receiver, if you can have somebody that travels with him,

739
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 6: that shadows him, that gives him, you know, a hard time.

740
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 6: You're obviously never gonna shut down a number one receiver.

741
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 6: That's why they're getting paid the big money. That's why

742
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 6: receiver contracts have gone through the roof, and not only

743
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 6: this offseason but in recent years. But if you have

744
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 6: a guy that can limit that number one, then you

745
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 6: can figure out how to handle the rest.

746
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't stop everyone, but if you hold that

747
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: number one guy and check and then if those number two,

748
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: number three, number four guys beat you, Paul, then okay, well,

749
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 4: you know what, you are just better than us that

750
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: particular day. But you don't want someone to have one

751
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: hundred plus receiving yards and five touchdowns on you and

752
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you've got no chance at all.

753
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Speaker 11: You know.

754
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Speaker 5: And he has that flexibility too. Sean Murphy Bunting really

755
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 5: made his name as a slot nickel corner, which is

756
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 5: what Garrett Williams is manning right now. But Garret Williams

757
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 5: mentioned that he's been playing all over the secondary, so

758
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: I'm curious just how versatile is versatile? To what degree

759
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 5: will these guys really be interchangeable? Because it's never too

760
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 5: early to talk. Week one in the Buffalo Bills, who

761
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: got rid of Stefan Diggs? So is a keyon Coleman

762
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: as a number one receiver? Is it a Curis Samuel?

763
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: Who word out of Buffalo is And the OC says

764
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: they're gonna use a lot like Deebo Samuel. They're using

765
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: them out of the backfield and that sort of guy.

766
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: All right, so you know what, you better have a

767
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 5: versatile secondary because those are some really athletic dudes that

768
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 5: you figure the Bills are going to dial up in

769
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 5: different ways.

770
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Speaker 4: Nor you can rotate Sean on either side to keep

771
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: Josh Allen gissing a particular series or one quarter to

772
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Speaker 4: the next and do it that way as opposed to

773
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: just saying, all right, you got the left side of

774
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: the field or the right side of the field.

775
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 5: Force Josh Allen in one of those hero ball plays.

776
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Speaker 5: It don't go so well for Josh Allen. That's what

777
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 5: you need.

778
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Speaker 4: By the way, the cornerback position leads us into our

779
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: next conversation with trending camp right around the corner. Yeah,

780
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 4: cornerback battles to watch. That's ahead here on the Arizona Cardinals'

781
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Speaker 4: RADI to a network.

782
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Speaker 2: Snap to Murray, short set, looks left, throws left. Carter

783
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: caught it at the five, turns left, breaks a tackle

784
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: into the end zone for the touchdown, and the Cardinals

785
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: run the ball the left side of the room and

786
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: busting it left. First down Carter forty fifty to forty

787
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: five and pushed out of bounds at the forty one.

788
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Carter made one defender miss and that's all he needed

789
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: to do to get a gain of twenty on the play.

790
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Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, what an incredible run by Carter on

791
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 6: the backside. Eli Ris lost his jock on that man.

792
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 11: Those ankles were ninety degrees bent.

793
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: Ron Woofley, we'll get to hear from him very soon.

794
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 4: And for those follow the Arizona Cardinals nationally outside of Arizona, yes,

795
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: you can thank the NFL Network for those preseason games,

796
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: because whenever wolf speaks, you always hear it from across

797
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: the entire country and maybe even the globe as well.

798
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: No one is able to string a series of words

799
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: together into a phrase like Ron Wolfley.

800
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: Last time he was in an NFL Network. He went

801
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 5: viral for his comment where he said, you get enough

802
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 5: dogs in the locker room and even the cats start barking.

803
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 5: That's what's happened with the Cardinals locker room. That's what's

804
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 5: happened to the culture. That's what Will Hernandez was talking

805
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 5: about right before the break, saying, you get enough guys

806
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: in there, who and then the other newcomers don't have

807
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: any choice but do it here the culture that's established

808
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 5: so and by the way, that run by Michael Carter,

809
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 5: everyone jumped off the bench on the sideline. I mean

810
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 5: there are a couple of things. They'll get dudes off

811
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: the bench, right Kyle, When a running back trucks someone,

812
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 5: or when he doesn't Allen iverson break the ankles crossover

813
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 5: like Michael Carter did and the defender just went down

814
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 5: in stupid fashion.

815
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Speaker 6: Or when the sideline reporter gets run into the kicking net.

816
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: Wow, that does happen only once in nineteen years. But yes,

817
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: that did get a rise out of the fellows. You're right,

818
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 5: they get me out of my seat.

819
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: Well, he only saw and heard Pass and Wolf talk

820
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: about Michael Carter six times last season, six games claimed

821
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: off waivers from the Jets, but did make a strong

822
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: first impression. But when you talk about trying to make

823
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 4: an impression, come training camp again one week from today,

824
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: players report, the first practice is a week from Wednesday.

825
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 4: First open practice is a week from Thursday. And yeah,

826
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 4: there are maybe a couple of starting jobs open left

827
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 4: guard seems to be Evan Brown's job to lose, and

828
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: then potentially cornerback number two. Big competition, But we hear

829
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 4: Michael Carter and the depth behind James Connor. He can't

830
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: carry the ball the entire season. He's gonna need a

831
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: rest here or there? Is that Michael Carter, is that

832
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: Trey Benson who continues to make a lot of noise,

833
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: not just of himself, but hearing his teammates talk about him,

834
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Speaker 4: and then Benson being a part of Kyler's own OTAs

835
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: if you will, away from the facility running back depth,

836
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: Who is RB two going to be Paul for this

837
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals see.

838
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 5: Your third down back a year ago is a Mario

839
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 5: de Mercado. So you figure when the music stops, there's

840
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: gonna be one guy standing who doesn't get a seat,

841
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: And so the competition is most definitely on in that

842
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 5: running back room DJ Dallas. You figure he's got a

843
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 5: spot on this team for his prowess and special teams

844
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: and the return man. So does it come down to

845
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 5: him Mari de Murcatto versus a Michael Carter Trey Benson,

846
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 5: the rookie you gotta figure is gonna get every shot

847
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 5: at being the relief man for James Connor who brings

848
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 5: that physical style. Obviously, it's really intriguing. And for a

849
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 5: team that not only was top five in every single

850
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: rushing category that mattered, but with the return of Kyler

851
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: Murray was number one in the run game and a

852
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 5: lot of those analytics, you know, the commitment to the

853
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: run is there. Now, what happens if you have a

854
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: legitimate one to two punch with James Connor, Trey Benson

855
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: and the physical guys between the tackles, and maybe one

856
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 5: two three if you add a Michael Carter is a

857
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 5: change up guy.

858
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: And does this become a question of roster construction. Do

859
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 4: you add or you keep an extra running back at

860
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: the expense of a wide receiver. Right now, I think

861
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: we're pretty set on at least four wide receivers, and

862
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: then after that, who knows, And then tight end depth.

863
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Speaker 4: You know, Trey McBride is number one, who's number two?

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Speaker 4: If we're going to see much of the same from

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Speaker 4: a year ago with that two tight ends, three tight ends,

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Speaker 4: a lot from Drew Petzing because they want to be

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Speaker 4: able to control the line of scrimmage and run the football.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, roster construction is going to be really interesting. And

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Speaker 6: to Pauli's point, I think what you got is you've

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Speaker 6: got Trey Benson, who's physically basically the same as James Connor.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's big, he's physical, he's kind of an

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Speaker 6: he would be a guy to me that would You

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Speaker 6: can plug him and you keep running the same offense

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Speaker 6: that you ran with James Connor. And then you've got

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Speaker 6: your change of pace in Michael Carter, who's a little

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Speaker 6: bit smaller, a little bit shiftier. I mean we saw

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Speaker 6: him make some incredible cuts last year, make some people

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Speaker 6: miss and those extra yards. I mean he averaged six

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Speaker 6: point eight yards per carry last year, so he's very productive.

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Speaker 6: So you know what I see. And here's where it's

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Speaker 6: a non answer to your question. Because Drew Petsing, Jonathan Gannon,

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Speaker 6: they talk over and over about being flexible and being

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Speaker 6: adaptable weekend and week out based on the opponent. And

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Speaker 6: there may be weeks where you use Michael Carter Moore

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Speaker 6: because of what he brings to your offense. There may

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Speaker 6: be weeks where you use Trey Benson as the backup

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Speaker 6: more because of you know how he's to a degree

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Speaker 6: interchangeable and with the tight ends. That's a great question.

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Speaker 6: There might be weeks where we're gonna run the ball

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Speaker 6: and that's gonna be our focus. There might be weeks

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Speaker 6: where we need to air it out. So you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know how to answer that question. It's how

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Speaker 6: these coaches want to construct this roster to be as

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Speaker 4: To make the same case with defensive line outside linebacker, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you kind of know who are going to be the starters,

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Speaker 4: but that rotation that Nick Rowlis likes to use at

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Speaker 4: those two position groups, So who makes a case to

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Speaker 4: be maybe getting an extra snap or two over someone else.

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Speaker 5: I have a dozen corners on this roster competing, nine

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Speaker 5: left guards competing. As Dennis Gardek said last week, it's

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Speaker 5: separation season. Dudes need to compete for a job.

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