1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: H Hello, and welcome to a brand new episode of Phishology, 2 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: where we go in an analytical, in depth perspective on 3 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: your Miami Marlins. I am always your host hosts Daniel, 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: and I'm joined always by my colleagues Eli Sausman, Lewis, 5 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Adio Weiss, and we are glad to have here probably 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: our biggest guest, not just in Physology but entire fresh 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Drive senior writer of MLB Pipeline, mister Jim Kallis, it's 8 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: dont to even have you here. 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for inviting me. You guys got to get 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: better guests. 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: If I'm the if I'm the peak, you guys got 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: to work on your guests, I guess. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: But now it's uh. 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: I always like talking prospects, and yeah, I mean, I've 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: obviously been doing this for a long time, and I 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: always feel like I don't feel like you guys are 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: gonna grill me. 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: But I always do believe that if you're going to 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: rank players, you. 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: Should be willing to explain why you ranked player ahead 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: of player B, or why this guy's better than that guy. 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: So I'm always happy to talk. 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: About this stuff. So it's glad to be here with you. 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Guys. 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great to have you off your busy schedule 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: with pipelines being released as seemingly every day, but again 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: we're welcome to have you here to talk about the Marlins. 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: And then probably the first question that most of us 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: have here is just maybe an in depth view on 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: the Marlins and maybe what you see the strength of 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: this farm system. 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: As for the Fish, yeah, you know, I mean we 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: had there. 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't have the rankings in front of me. 35 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: We haven't done our new rankings yet, but a couple 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: of years ago we had them as one of the 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: top farm systems in the game, and they've graduated so 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: many of. 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: Those guys to the big league. 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: So like the top thirty, I think looks radically different 41 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: than it did a couple of years ago. There's probably 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: been more turnover with their list than most, just because 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: of all the guys who no longer count prospects. You know, 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: I guess the strength you have to say is pitching. 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: You know, the best prospect I think I don't think 46 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: anybody disagrees that Uri Prez is their best prospect and 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: one of the best prospects in baseball. And you know 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: you've got you know, obviously a lot of their better 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: pitching prospects are hurt. But you know, Max Meyers should 50 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: be able to come back from Tommy John surgery. Jake 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Eater should be back this year from Tommy John surgery. 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: You know, Dax Fulton had Tommy John surgery in high school, 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: and I think he's a guy who could like take 54 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 3: a step forward this year. He just seems like he 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: keeps getting better and better, more more pro experience. They 56 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: got guys like Jacob Miller and Carson Milbran out of 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: last year's draft, and then I honestly don't know what 58 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: to tell you about six per Centchez, like what to 59 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: expect from him. It seems like it's been forever since 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: he's really done much on the mound, but he was 61 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: so good when we saw him in twenty twenty, so 62 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: he's kind of the biggest wild card. But I'd say 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: I'd say They're pitching is probably the strength of the system, 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 3: right And Yeah, you put. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: In a very generous way about being a lot of 66 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: turnover on this list in recent years. I think it 67 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: is fair to say that over the last compared to 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: where it was over the last few years, that this 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: farm system is probably weaker overall in terms of overall 70 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: talent than it was just since they've completed their latest 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: string of rebuilding trades. Is that fair to say that 72 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: this is one of the low points that they've been 73 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: at recently. 74 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: I mean again, we haven't we haven't ranked them, so 76 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: I can't tell you, Hey, the Marlins rank eighteenth or 77 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: twenty third. You know, we're going to do our Farm 78 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: System rankings, I think after the World Baseball Classic. But 79 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm just looking back at our top twenty, our top 80 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: thirty from twenty twenty one. You know, when they're coming 81 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: off the playoff appearance in the short year and sixtcess 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: san Chance was number one, and he's obviously been heard. 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: JJ Bledet disappointed, is gone. Max Meyers still eligible and 84 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: still ranks high, but it has heard. You have Jess 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: Chisholm graduated at Wickberg graduated. When Diaz graduated, a CAV 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: lost track of which organization he's with because he's been 87 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: DFA so many times this offseason. Trevor Rodgers graduated, He's 88 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: who's chance has graduated? Braxton Garrett graduated, Jose Devers graduated. 89 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: You have to go all the way down to Dax Fulton. 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: To find another guy who has even graduated off the 91 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: list from two years ago, and then you could go 92 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: on Nick Knighter, Peyton Verdick Monte Harrison, Camera Meiser's been traded, 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: Connor Scott's been traded, Kyle Nicholas has been traded, Jose 94 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: Salas has been traded. Jararon Canassi unngraduated. I'm not gonna 95 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: go through the whole thing, but like I think two 96 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: thirds of the guys almost from our twenty twenty one 97 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: list aren't even eligible for the Marvel's List anymore because 98 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: either they're big leaguers or they're no longer in the organization. 99 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: But in terms of what you know, the system as 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: a whole, yeah, I think it is weaker than it 101 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: has been in a little while because it was kind 102 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: of on the rise when they fully comme into rebuilding. 103 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: I didn't love a lot of their trades, to be 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: honest with you, when they were they're training you know, 105 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: everybody they had, But they did bring in some interesting players. 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: Their international program was doing well, they had some draft picks, 107 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: so there's a lot of hope for I still I 108 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: still understand having a JJ Bilday, Like I thought for 109 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: sure that guy would hit, and then I now I'm 110 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: not really sure he ever will hit. But yeah, it's 111 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: as I wrote kind of my introduction to our far 112 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: rankings two years ago. I mean, I know it was 113 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: a short season. They're coming off with surprise playoff birth, 114 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: they have this deep farm system. There's a lot of optimism, 115 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: and two years later they finished fourth two years in 116 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: a row, lost a bunch of games, and the farm 117 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: system is a lot thinner, and they've got a lot 118 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: of holes to fill. So yeah, they have some work 119 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: to do. 120 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 5: Speaking of the international market, Jim, you know, I read 121 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: Ken Rosendal's piece this morning for The Athletic talking about 122 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: how it's kind of been a while since they've done 123 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: well as far as position players go on the market. 124 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: Obviously we've seen kind of like shrides with the likes 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 5: of Soriano and the miners now more of a converted reliever, 126 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: but position player wise, it's really been since about Marcelo 127 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 5: Zuna that they've had success with international position players. Do 128 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 5: you think the hiring of OsO Campbell is, you know, 129 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 5: somebody who obviously had success in Houston, signing the likes 130 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 5: of Christian Javier Luis Garcia and fran Bravaldez. Do you 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 5: think that may be a turning point for their fortunes 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: as far as like having a guy who knows the 133 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: international scouting side kind of knows, you know, the way 134 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 5: that system kind of works, and you don't think maybe 135 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 5: that'll help them, maybe hit on somebody on the position 136 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: player side, you know, something that's been very much a 137 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 5: weakness for them even at the big league level. Going 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 5: back now, for I would say post Stanton and Real Muto, I. 139 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: Know they have a lot of expectations for you to Cape. 140 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: You know, there are some people who think he might 141 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: be the best position player in the system. You know, 142 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: they had a really interesting DSL contingent, and and look, 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: you could always sell hope on the on the super 144 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: low level prospects, but you know, last year without Feeler's 145 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Hesy Girardo and Anthony Baguero and in fielder Marco Vargas, 146 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: it was a pretty interesting DSL contingent, so that those 147 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: fortunes might be changing anyway. But yeah, I think getting 148 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: as a campo when you look at what he's done 149 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: in Houston. 150 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. When I think it's Houston, I think 151 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: of all the pitchers they signed. 152 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: It seems like every year they bring up another guy 153 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: the big leagues who they signed when he was like 154 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: nineteen years old and they signed it for twenty five 155 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: thousand dollars and then the guy finished his third and 156 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: the Rookie of Year voting, and they just have an 157 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: endless supply those guys. But yeah, I mean, his track 158 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: record obviously has been very, very good, and you would 159 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: think that would be you know, there's a reason to 160 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: think that would change. With the Marlins, Like I said, 161 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: it will be kind of interesting to see how this 162 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: super young DSL contingent that they had that was you know, 163 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: mostly guys signed in twenty twenty two, performs as they 164 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: come up the ladder. 165 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and with that, we've seen how the division is 166 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: rivaling in terms of the prospect and see the Braves 167 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: guys kind of like the Marlins using them and graduating. 168 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: And then you have the Nationals who traded Soto and 169 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: got just a mirrored of prospects. How do you think 170 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: this long term affects Tomorrowin's competing with the division prospect. 171 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: Wise, well, prospect wise, you know, maybe they're not as 172 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: bad shape as as they might appear. I mean, you know, 173 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: the Nationals and Mets, you know, have like I think, 174 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: kind of the strongest you know, contingent of current top 175 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: one hundred prospects, but neither one of those teams is 176 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: especially deep. The Braves are really thinned out, no, I mean, 177 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: not only in Landa's complaining because they won the World 178 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 3: Series two years ago. In Philadelphia, it's kind of the 179 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: same thing. I mean, they've got Andrew Painter and Nick 180 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: Able and a couple other guys, but they're really I 181 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: don't think any of the farm systems in the NL 182 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: East are really particularly deep right now. So you know, 183 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: some good drafts, some good international crops, you know, I 184 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: don't know if they'll continue to make further trades, you know, 185 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: could help. You know, you could see a scenario where, 186 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: maybe a year or two from now, the Marlins have 187 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 3: the best farm system in the division. I mean, I 188 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: think the Nationals would be the favorite seyout right now. 189 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: You know, the Nationals have the number two pick in 190 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: Issuear's draft, so they'll they'll get another guy right off 191 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: the top of the draft too. 192 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: But even though the. 193 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: Marlin darn as strong as they have been, the NL East, again, 194 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: we haven't line up a team I said, the n 195 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: least might have about the thinnest group of farm systems 196 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: in baseball, so they're not at a at a huge 197 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: disadvantage as they might be. You know, if you were 198 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: in a division, say with you know the Dodgers, or 199 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: you know the Orioles or or team you know, teams 200 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: that had really good farm systems. 201 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 4: Well, we're with Jim Kallus of MLB Pipeline here, and 202 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 4: I think it's time to scrutinize the rankings themselves. 203 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: Okay, as you alluded to. 204 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: Already, it's essentially a consensus that Yurie is the number 205 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: one guy here. I was fascinating about your process in 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: terms of coming up with Jacob Berry at number two, because, 207 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 4: like looking around the industry, there's probably four different directions 208 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: that you could go potentially for a number two prospect, 209 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 4: whether it's Jacob Barry or Max Meyer, or Dax Fulton 210 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: or Jake Eaeder. And from reading the rankings, it seems 211 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: like he came down to Barry and Meyer because both 212 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: of them with fifty five overall grades on them. I'm 213 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: just fascinated in the process between trying to compare Meyer, 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: someone who's made his major league debut and is missing 215 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: full year. With Tommy John versus a newly drafted player 216 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: who has only played at the low A level so far, 217 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: who has a kind of unusual skill set, who's a 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: switch hitter. They couldn't be much different in terms of 219 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: overall players. So I'm just fascinated in the process of 220 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: how you split hairs between them in this case. 221 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I think splitting hairs is the best 222 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: way to put it. I mean, when you lay up 223 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: these lists and look, I do obsess like, over hey, 224 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: should Sean Reynolds or Josh Simpson be twenty four and 225 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: twenty five or reverse? Like I do actually put a 226 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: lot of fun to it. But at the same time, 227 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying you guys like this, but we 228 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: get a lot of fans who are just like outrage 229 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 3: at one guy's ahead of another. It's like they're really 230 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: kind of on tiers, and we kind of use the 231 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: overall grades to show tiers, and you know, I think, 232 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: you know, within a tier you could go in different orders. Now, 233 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: you know, I'd have a hard time putting Jake Eater 234 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: at number two. I mean, Jake Eater was really really 235 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: good in twenty twenty one, but he was really inconsistent 236 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 3: in Vanderbilt. He's coming back from Tommy John surgery. We 237 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: haven't seen him in the game, so that one would 238 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: be a tough sell. I think you could argue any 239 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: of the other guys, like I do have Dax Fulton 240 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: as an overall fifty on our on our grading system, 241 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: we can't make we can't get more precise than fifty 242 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: and fifty fives. But like Dax Folt would be like 243 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: a fifty two and a half. Like I could see 244 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: Dax Fulton making the jump to the top one hundred 245 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: this year and being a fifty five. But yeah, I 246 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: mean it's funny, like I think we're probably higher, I know, 247 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: in our top one hundred. Like I don't know if 248 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: Jacob Berry made anybody else's top one hundred, he made our. 249 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: It's like, and I I am probably the highman on 250 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: Jacob Berry in the you know, I guess you know, 251 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: prospect ranking industrial complex. I just think this is a 252 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: guy who hits for average, shoots, for power draws, walks. 253 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: I know the data on his exit velocities was not thrilling, 254 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: and other outlets don't have him ranked. His high I 255 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 3: just think this guy's gonna hit, and you know, maybe 256 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: he wants up be an average power instead of plus 257 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: power in the end, if you know he doesn't, you know, 258 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: start hitting the ball harder. I think he's really gonna hit. 259 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: I think he's can get on base. You know, I 260 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: don't think the defense is really gonna be a big 261 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: driver with Jacob Berry. And to me, if Max Meyer 262 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: were healthy, I take Max Meyer for Jacob Berry. I 263 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: do think, you know, you feel pretty good about guys 264 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 3: coming back from Tommy John surgery. 265 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: But it's not a given. 266 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 6: Try to get on three to two and Max Meyer 267 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 6: has his first major league strutown. 268 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, get that ball too. 269 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Toss that one out of the game. 270 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: There's the slider, just perfect location. 271 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: And you know, by time we see Max Meyer pitching again, 272 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: he's gonna be twenty five years old without a lot 273 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: of experience, you know, at the big league level. 274 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: So I mean that was I don't know that. 275 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: We have him pretty close on the top one hundred 276 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: verty sixty one myor sixty seven, so we are splitting hairs. 277 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: But I would take the healthy guy. I really think 278 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: he's gonna hit over. I really like Max Meyer, but 279 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: he's injured, so that one's easy to me. And like 280 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: I could see, I could see a scenario where, you know, 281 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: Dax Fulton, like his velocity was up toward the end 282 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: of last year, and if he builds on that, and 283 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: let's say it becomes a plus fastball and he's got 284 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: the really good curveball and he added a slider at 285 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: the end of last year, and maybe the control gets 286 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: a little bit better, I could see. You know, we 287 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 3: could be talking about Dax Fulton being the number one 288 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: prospect in the system, assuming Yuri Perez graduates, because he 289 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: gets to Miami at some point in twenty twenty three. 290 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: You talk briefly about his defense, Jim, can you espouse 291 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 5: a little bit more on that, because when I look 292 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 5: at him, you know, we saw him in person immediately 293 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 5: after he signed, and the physicality kind of gave me 294 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 5: very Nick Castiano's vibes as far as the kind of 295 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 5: player that he is. And I you know, when I 296 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: watched your preview you did on the Marlin's Farm system 297 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: where you refer to Barry as the noted I think 298 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 5: you've noted as one of the better college hitters as 299 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 5: far as complete profiles go. In the draft, and I 300 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: believe his on base percentage was slightly over three forty 301 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 5: when he got into affilated ball. But that being said, defensively, 302 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: you know, given Miami kind of already has right now 303 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: like a third base conundrum with Sagura gonna be there, 304 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: expected to be there for at least the next season. 305 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: And you have the likes of Grossians, and you know, 306 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: another prospect on the Marlin stop thirty Xavier Edwards, likely 307 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 5: to see time there once they get extended big league time. 308 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 5: When do you think the organization would kind of wreck 309 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 5: Nies the full inability of his defense and maybe try 310 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 5: the experiment of him, say maybe playing little corner outfield 311 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: or dhing or playing some first base. 312 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think there's two things there. 313 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: One, I don't feel like any of those guys you 314 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: mentioned a big league are really impediments. Yeah, Sigura, I 315 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: think he's more of a stop gap than a long 316 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: term solution. I'm not sure third base he really fits 317 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: the profile what you want offensively, Your Grossians, you know, 318 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: have all their prospects when you factor in defense, maybe 319 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: has the best chance to stick at third, But he's 320 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: got hit for some power at some point too. You 321 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: can have your third basement hitting ten or twelve homers 322 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: a year, and Xavier Edwards he does not profile at 323 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: third base. They could play in a third base. He's 324 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: got below average arm, he's got no power. That would 325 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: be not good. Now that said, I don't think Jacob 326 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: Berry is a great third basement by any means. I mean, 327 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: we have him ranked as a forty. He's you know, 328 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: Nick Aslano's camp Parrison isn't it is a pretty good one. 329 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean he's kind of, you know, stocky and thick. 330 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: His arms probably average really at best. I will say 331 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying Jacob Barry is gonna be big league 332 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: third basement by any means. I will say I do 333 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: think it makes sense to run him out there for 334 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: a while and see what he can do there. I 335 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: do think you can, through sheer hard work, become an 336 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: adequate third basement. A lot of guys can't, like I 337 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: remember that's going to date me. But when I started, 338 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: Robin Vatua was your first round pick and you know, 339 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: still might be the best college pure college hitter in 340 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: all the years I've covered college baseball, and he was 341 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: terrible third base and nobody thought he like questions say 342 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: no it, but very people thought he played third base, 343 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: had any chimps to really played third base in big leagues. 344 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: He wasn't athletic. Well, honestly, a lot of the same 345 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: stuff you hear about Jacob Barry and Robin Vatura worked and 346 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: worked and worked and made himself he eventually wanted to 347 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: go glove at third base. Yeah, I'm not saying Jacob 348 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: Barry is going to go glove at third base. I'm 349 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: not saying he'snna be the third basement. I do like 350 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: the fact that anytime anybody asked Jacob Barry about it, like, look, 351 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: I mean, Jacob bar got drafted where he did six 352 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: overall because the bat's so good. The same time, anytime 353 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: he gets asked about his defense, Jacob Berry is like, 354 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna play third base, Like I'm gonna show everybody 355 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: they're wrong. I'm gonna play third base. So he's gonna 356 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: work out it. So all that said, I don't think 357 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: that the Marlins have another obvious third basement of the 358 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: long term future in the system, and Barry's barely playing 359 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: in pro ball, so I would let him play third 360 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: base this year. See how it looks it takes any progress, 361 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: Like if I had to guess, it probably won't work 362 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: out to where he's gonna be the third baseman in 363 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 3: Miami down the road. But I think the bat's good 364 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: enough that could profile it. First. 365 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: I think you know, he doesn't run real great. 366 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he could play. You probably want him and left 367 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: because of the range his arms. Okay, but yeah, my 368 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: guess is he'll play a lot of third base, and 369 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: if it gets to the point where they think it's 370 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 3: not gonna work, then they'll move him. But I would 371 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: I'd be surprised. I bet he spends most of this 372 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: year at third base, so they could figure out exactly 373 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 3: what his chances are there, because again, it's not like 374 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: you have, you know, Hall of Fame. You know, it's 375 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: not like Nolan or and Noto's the third base in 376 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 3: the big leagues and he's not going anywhere like if 377 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: Jacob Erry, you know, they need a third base and 378 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: then Jacob Barry might be that guy. He might not, 379 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: but let's let's see what he can do. If that 380 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: makes sense. I'm not even trying to sound defensive. I 381 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: just I just think it's one of those things where 382 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: you always try a guy. I guess when he begins 383 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: his pro career at the position that he or I 384 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: guess the most difficult position he has any chance of playing. 385 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: And right now, for Jacob Barry, that's third base. A 386 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: year from now might be left field or first base. 387 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to go ahead and talk about someone 388 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: else the infield on the Marlins, and who was I 389 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: believe one of they're highly drafted players and at least 390 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: was and Khalil Watson and him going for maybe on 391 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: the top of the prospect list maybe once when he 392 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: was drafted to now falling to thirteenth to just how 393 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: have you seen the decline of Watson early in his 394 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: professional career and do you see him rising to what 395 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: his potentill could be as a player. 396 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 397 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: I just chuckle because like if I had the answer 398 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: to that, I think I'd be employed by the Marlins. 399 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: You know, look, I. 400 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: Don't know what to make him, to be honest with 401 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: The physical ability is still the physical ability. 402 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: That made him a first round pick. 403 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: And I don't second guess the decision to take in 404 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: there at sixteen. I think it's easier to second guess 405 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: it now. There were signability questions there were some makeup concerns, 406 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: But I mean this is a guy who's you know, 407 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: in the run, you go number one over all the 408 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: pirates on a potential you know, discount deal. It was 409 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: a legitimate, you know, top five discussion as a prospect. 410 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: And I mean if you look at him from a 411 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: tool standpoint, uh, you know, he's still got the quick swing. 412 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: He's still got you know, kind of sneaky strength, solid 413 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: row power, well above average speed, strong arm, good actions. 414 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: The shorts stop. But like two questions, and I don't 415 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: know the answer to these, will guess get more of 416 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: a more evidence one way or another this year is 417 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: can he control his swing decisions? And can he control 418 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: his emotions? I guess is the best way to put it. 419 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: I mean he swings at everything. He struck out thirty 420 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: five percent of time in single a last year. I 421 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: mean that obviously has got to change or he's not 422 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: gonna be able to hit. And he just plays kind 423 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: of out of control his emotions. I mean, he got 424 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: demoted for a month for making a threatening gesture toward 425 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: an umpire. He you know, I don't think anybody thinks 426 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: he's necessarily a bad kid. He just cannot control his emotions, 427 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: whether it's directed at himself, umpires, opponents, teammates. 428 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 6: And. 429 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: You can't play like that. 430 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: Like it's hard enough to play like that for a 431 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: week straight, let alone one hundred and sixty two games. 432 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: So you know, I mean, shoot, I mean, we could talk. 433 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: I mean there's a guy, I mean from town standpoint. 434 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: If he gets everything, like, if he makes the adjustments 435 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 3: he us to make, he could be number one on 436 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 3: this list year from now. If he does what he 437 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: did last year. I don't think we wouldn't rank him 438 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: at all, but maybe he's down at like number. 439 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: Thirty next year. 440 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: He's about as volatile a prospect as I think there 441 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: is anywhere in baseball. Unfortunately for the Marlins, like ceilings 442 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: still ceiling. You know, maybe you tone down your expectations 443 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: for the hitting ability a little bit because he struck 444 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: out so much last year. Although you know, I'm not 445 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: saying you're gonna turn him into a batting champ, but 446 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: he I mean, let's say you can't just flip a switch. 447 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: At the same time, his swing decisions were so bad 448 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: so many times last year that they can get better. 449 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's he's hard to figure out. I mean, 450 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 3: I mean literally, if I don't know if people a seeing, 451 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: I'm literally shorgking my shoulders. And I don't think ybody 452 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: knows the answer to that question. And then like I 453 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 3: mean for ranking him, like like it was just like, okay, 454 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: where do I rank this guy? Like, I mean, he's 455 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: got high, like there's no question in my mind he's 456 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: got a higher ceiling than Xavier Edwards. I mean outside 457 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: putting the bat on the ball, which yes, that's a 458 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: very important skill. He just kills Zever Edwards from Toolston. Well, 459 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: he's faster in Zebra Edwards now too. He's got a 460 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: lot more power, he's got a lot better arm. He 461 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: can actually play on the left side innfield. But I 462 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: put him behind his Zavior Edwards. Yea sixty Sanchez, like 463 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: I said, hasn't pitched in forever, and I had him 464 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: behind sixty Sanchez, like you know, Jordan Grosian's hit what 465 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: was it, three home runs last year and I have 466 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: behind you know, and Jordan Grosians is the third baseman 467 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: and I have him behind Jordan Groshens. So it's just 468 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: it's he he was about as hard as guy as 469 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: there is to because I just don't know what you're 470 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: supposed to do with it. 471 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you touched on it perfectly right there, Jim. About 472 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: the hardest guys to rank on this list, khalil uh 473 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 4: six to oh, I imagine because of what he was 474 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: and now what he is right now. Is there anybody 475 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: else in that same vein that you had a really 476 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: difficult time placing that you wouldn't be surprised by mid 477 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: season if they're much higher and much lower than they 478 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: are at the moment. 479 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: Not. 480 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: I mean, those two are by far the hardest. 481 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 3: I mean six to pitch grades are pretty similar to 482 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: Uri Perez is, you know, and Ury Perez can make 483 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: a case for, you know, being the argument with Andrew 484 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: Painter and Grayce and Rodriguez is being the best pitching 485 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: prospect in baseball. No, I mean, I think those two, 486 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: those two were just the hardest for the Marlins. They're 487 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: the hardest of just about anybody. I mean, I know, 488 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: probably the guy who maybe I would disagree with the 489 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: organization the most on is Cody Moore set who I 490 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: feel like the organization thinks is going to break through 491 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: and they would rank him higher. And I mean I 492 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: put him behind three guys who were in the DSL 493 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: last year. You know, I can see I could see 494 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: I know the Marlins like him. I just for a 495 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 3: guy who's supposed people hit, he just really hasn't hit 496 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: a whole lot in the last couple of years. So 497 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: I'm kind of reserving judgment. And Cody Moore set a 498 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: little bit. 499 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: He I mean, he wasn't hard like I kind of 500 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: put him. I I kind of like, you can you. 501 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: Can get caught up in like, okay, she could you 502 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: know Cody Moore set be twenty verus eighteen versus twenty three. 503 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: But most of the guys, it's like, Okay, he kind 504 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: of goes in this in this range, and it's just 505 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: you know, you know what your personal preference is, not 506 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: like Khlil Watson and sixty Sanchez were just like the 507 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: difference between their ceiling and the floor is so immense 508 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: it could be. You know, there's any you know, wide 509 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 3: variety outcomes. I mean, you know, it comes down to 510 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: the end to the list. You know, there's always like Okay, 511 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 3: who do I want to get on? Who do I 512 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: want to get off? I mean the last couple of 513 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: guys who didn't make the list were pictures like Zach 514 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: mccambley and Brian Hoeing and empty Johnson and maybe having 515 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: our Sonoa would be the next position player, although you 516 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: know if I had one on there. But again, you know, 517 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: you could always talk those guys around, like I always 518 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: like to say, you know, the difference between like the 519 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 3: twenty sixth prospect and thirty fifth prospect is minimal, But 520 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: five of those guys make the list, in five don't, 521 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: and you just don't see the five who don't, So 522 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: I'd say I didn't really have any Like again, I 523 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: can sit there and get caught in the weeds, like, Okay, 524 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: my relievers, how do I stack up Nick en Right 525 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: versus Josh Simpson versus Sean Reynolds versus George Soriano, And 526 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: you can bat those around your head, you know, forever 527 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: if you want the shift them around. But I'd say 528 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: for the most part, you know, like Joe mac versus 529 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: gud Cape, you know, who do I want ahead of who? 530 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: You know, you can debate those kinds of things a 531 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: little bit, but but I wouldn't say I wouldn'sider anybody 532 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: else for us. It's like, oh my gosh, it's all 533 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: over the place. 534 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: On the skip. 535 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: You talk a little bit about you briefly mentioned Mac there. 536 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: What is it about Mac that kind of merits him 537 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: being so high beyond the fact that obviously, you know, 538 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 5: you know, from a traditional metrics standpoint, as far as 539 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: batting average goes, he's you know, he's on the lower end, 540 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 5: but it's the plate discipline and you know what, other 541 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 5: what else about him do you kind of see that? 542 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 5: You know, possibly it kind of just like makes him 543 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 5: a guy that we really should be paying attention to 544 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 5: him in the coming years. 545 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 6: Swinging the line, driving to the left center field back, 546 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 6: goes Black. 547 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: He's at the. 548 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 6: Track, it's gone over the fence, goes Joe Mack after 549 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 6: going oh for three makes they hadn't scored a run 550 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 6: since the first inning. Mac gets him on the board 551 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 6: in the eighth inning. 552 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's an elite catching prospect, 553 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: but I do think he has a chance to be 554 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: an every day capturing in the big leagues. I kind 555 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 3: of throw out what he did this year in pro 556 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: ball because he had a hamstring injury that was pretty severe, 557 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 3: and you know, I think he was trying to make 558 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: up for some lost time and he was experience the 559 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: same thing like in the Fall League. He didn't play 560 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: great in the Fall League. But he's one of the 561 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: youngest guys there. He's one of the most inexperienced players there. 562 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: You know. 563 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing he needs to do is 564 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: probably you know, cut down on the strikeouts. But he's 565 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: got bad speed. He's got potential for twenty home run power. 566 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: He's got pitch recognition skills. I think it's just kind 567 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: of learning pro pitching. Like I think he can recognize 568 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: pitches and he works deep counts, but sometimes he kind 569 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: of gets trapped in deep counts and then winds up 570 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: leaving the strikeouts. He's got a strong arm, he's athletic. 571 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: He's got to improve his receiving. I mean, you know, 572 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: I don't really see him as any different. I guess, 573 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: you know, he only had you know, he hit two 574 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: thirty one this year, but again he was he was 575 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: hurt for most of the year. The way he performed 576 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: last year, it was such a small sample size. It 577 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 3: didn't really change the way I think of him. I 578 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: look at him the same way he did coming out 579 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: of the draft. 580 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: I mean, here's a guy. 581 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: Who's a chance to be you know, maybe he could 582 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: hit you know, two sixty with twenty homers and be 583 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: a solid defender behind the play. 584 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: That's a pretty good player. 585 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: You know. 586 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: He's look, he's a few years away from getting to 587 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: that point, but you know, I still think that ceiling 588 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 3: is still there. 589 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And what are the I would say the follower 590 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: followers and rises that I saw really that stood out 591 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: to me was Jose Girardo coming unranked to seventeenth on 592 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: your list on pipeline. Just it's the eighty great arm 593 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned one hundred and two mile power throw that 594 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: he has over there in the Minican Republic as an amateur. 595 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: Just what did you see from him to make that 596 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: such of a significant jump to go unranked till already 597 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: almost reaching the top fifteen. 598 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a couple of things 599 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: to play there. 600 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: One. 601 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I don't think the system's 602 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: super deep. 603 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: I don't usually put you know, guys in the DSL 604 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: who weren't you know, seven figure signings that high on 605 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: the list that early in their careers. But it just 606 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: got to the point where it's like, Okay, I've kind 607 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: of run out of guys who look like they could 608 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: be starting pitchers or the there aren't really that many 609 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: other guys who look like they could be everyday players 610 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: or obviously every day players. So I went with that 611 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: DSL contingent of Gerardo and Piguero and Vargas all back 612 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: to back to back. You know again, I mean the 613 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 3: difference between his ceiling and you know where he is 614 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: now is still pretty huge because you just start playing. 615 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: But I mean, guy hitting my home runs. In his 616 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: first full month in the DSL, finished third in the 617 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: league with eleven homers. He's got big power, you know. 618 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: You noted you know that I noted that he had 619 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: one hundred and two mile hour throw from the outfield 620 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: when he was an amateur. 621 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: He's got huge. 622 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: Arm, solid runner. You know, he's really aggressive hitter. He 623 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: struck out thirty percent of time in the DSL. He 624 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: looks to pull and kind of launch everything he sees. 625 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: So that approach is probably not gonna work all the 626 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: way up to the big leagues. He's gonna have to 627 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: make some adjustments, but there are some tools there. So 628 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: I kind of went at that point the list is like, 629 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna go for ceiling, even if 630 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: there's more risk involved, And that's why I went with 631 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: Gerardo at seventeen. Ye know, I all be honest. I 632 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: didn't really know about him at this time last year. 633 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: They just signed him. It was one hundred and eighty 634 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: thousand dollars signing. So he wasn't a big time guy. 635 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: If you'd asked me in you know, end of February 636 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, you know who's Josey Girardo, I would 637 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: have shrugged and said, I don't know who that is. 638 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: So that's why he didn't rank on the list last year. 639 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: He really hadn't done anything. He wasn't a big time guy, 640 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: but he impressed with his power down on the DSL 641 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: and Jim. 642 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: We were absolutely delighted to see Paul McIntosh squeeze unto 643 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: the top thirty. Fishtreps has been extremely high on him 644 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: since the moment he stepped into Pro Bowl an undrafted 645 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: free agent. But as soon as like you started playing 646 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 4: the games, his bat and ball quality just jumped out 647 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: at me. And then all of the last season he 648 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: was one of their better hitters at any position period 649 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: and he actually did it well, doing a whole lot 650 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 4: of catcher. But I imagine the fact that he is 651 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 4: as close to the bottom as he is, reflects that 652 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: you don't necessarily see him sticking at catcher moving forward. 653 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Paul mctash is an organization favorite, 654 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: and like I had, like I said that kind of 655 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: that the twenty six to thirty five range, I was 656 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: shuffling guys around and. 657 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: I had him off. 658 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: And then there's enough support like you should like he's 659 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: he's an organization favorite for sure. He does the things 660 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: that really interesting, and then he has some glaring holes 661 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: in his game, like he hits the ball as hard 662 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: and he works counts as well as most players in 663 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: the system. I mean his power over hit, he does 664 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: drow walks, he doesn't strike out a ton. 665 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: That's all good. 666 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: Now that said, he's already twenty five. You know, he 667 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: wasn't really even young for double A last year and 668 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: he hit two fifty eight, so it's not like he's 669 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: a high average hitter. And just I think the biggest 670 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: question is where do you put him. I mean, he's 671 00:31:53,520 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: surprisingly quick, with like a fifty percent fifty. We gave 672 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: him a fifty grade on his speed. He's surprisingly quick 673 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: down the line, but it's it's it's a blow average arm, 674 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: it's a blow average receiver. He doesn't block the balls. Well, 675 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any chance he's really like he's 676 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: more an emergency third catcher. Like you can't even really 677 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: call him a backup catcher. He'd be like if he 678 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: made your team as a first base I mean he 679 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: runs okay, I guess you could run him around a 680 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 3: left field a little bit, like if he made your 681 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: team as like a first base left field d H 682 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: type who you could catch, like in an emergency situation. 683 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: That's probably what he is as a catcher. If he 684 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: was like a fringy guy and you're like, oh, he 685 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: could be an offensive mind to backup, he could rank higher. 686 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: But like it's everybody loves it. I mean, I haven't 687 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: talked to anybody the Marvels. He just doesn't love him 688 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 3: as you know, just as a personality. And he'll probably 689 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: get to the big leagues, but he's really really gonna 690 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: have to hit to carve out a role in the 691 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: big leagues because I just don't think he has a position. 692 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: Really. 693 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And going from Paul mcintoss, a player that I 694 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: personally really like, and I think his tools are just 695 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: out of the waters. Not seeing Nunaz might that's not 696 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: half the power, but it's just his run, his fielding, 697 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: his arm. We still have to make a defensive play. 698 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: I believe it in spring training, just a couple of 699 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: days ago. Just what makes him just where you have 700 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: him ranked twenty first? Is it just mainly his offensive 701 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: skills that push him down that low on the list. 702 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he might be about the most extreme 703 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: player on any top thirty because you know, on the 704 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: twenty eighties scouting scale or fifties average, we gave him 705 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: seventy run, sixty five arm, seventy field. I mean, he 706 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: could probably contend for gold gloves shortstops, maybe even the 707 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: season goal goal shorten for goal gloves as shortstop this season. 708 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: He can really run, you can't but like so so 709 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: the defense of the running, that's great. You love all 710 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: that part of it. He was thurning the miners last 711 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: year with seventy steals. He just has not shown any 712 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: impact at the play. He's not very physical. I mean 713 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 3: he definitely needs to get stronger. But like he's listed 714 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: five nine one fifty eight, he doesn't turn on pitches, 715 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 3: he doesn't drive him with any authority, Like it's kind 716 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: of classic knock the bat out of his hands. I mean, 717 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: he draws walks in the miners by working decounts. I 718 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: don't think that's going to play in the big league 719 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: because I just don't think if I would respect the 720 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: lack of power. I mean, he's he's an interesting guy, 721 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: but he's a career two thirty eight hitter with a 722 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: career twenty seven slugging percentage in the miners and that's 723 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: not anywhere close to being able to hit in the 724 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: big leagues. I went forty hit, I want twenty power. 725 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no power there. So you know, he's 726 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: gonna have to Like there's a lot of guys in 727 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 3: the system who are interesting that they have flaws are 728 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: gonna need to address, and he's gonna have to get stronger. Hey, look, 729 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: he's never gonna have power, but he's got to be 730 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: able to hit the ball, you know, harder, you know, 731 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 3: to least make teams respect him a little bit, because 732 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: I mean just I mean again, I don't know he's 733 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: I can't imagine there are too many guys on any 734 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: of our top thirty lists who have played even one 735 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: hundred games in the minor leagues who have a career 736 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: two eighty seven slugging percentage, and that's testament to how 737 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: good his defense and his base running are. But like 738 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: that's I mean, that's a pretty fatal flaw. So if 739 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: he you know, I don't think he's ever gonna be 740 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 3: He'll probably always be twenty power. 741 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: But if you could get him. 742 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 3: To be, you know, I don't know, like an average 743 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: hitter and maybe slightly above average on base ability and 744 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 3: then not power, but like great defense, then you might 745 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: have a big leaker. 746 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he probably can. He probably will. 747 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 3: Get a cup of coffee at least on the basis 748 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: of his glove alone, but he's gonna have to provide 749 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: a lot more offense to have any kind of pig 750 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: League role for the long term. 751 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 5: Continuing on that trend of infielders, we've kind of talked 752 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 5: briefly about the way the Marlins infield kind of aligns 753 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 5: for twenty twenty three, and not even just the infield, 754 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 5: the defense as a hole, where it seems like there's 755 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 5: a lot of guys playing at a position, either learning 756 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 5: new positions or they're kind of experimenting. In a Philadelphia 757 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two Phillies lightweight, albeit with a lot less. 758 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: Offensive, espically a Colonial World Series team. 759 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 5: I am not pousing that giving describing that onto them, 760 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 5: because yeah, I mean, we could touch on that another day. 761 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 5: But what I'm trying to get at is, you know, 762 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 5: obviously you have Joey Wendell, who buy many metrics out 763 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 5: of a average defensive run saved, was elite as both 764 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 5: a second and a third baseman last year, believe he 765 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 5: was in the top ten and DRS for third baseman, 766 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 5: and you're kind of playing him at shortstop. I believe 767 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 5: he's slated to be the primary shortstop, a position he 768 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 5: has played before, obviously going back to his days in Tampa, 769 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 5: where positional versatility is something that's very much preached. But again, 770 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 5: a guy who doesn't play that position on a regular basis, 771 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 5: and that makes me want to touch on a guy 772 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 5: who you have just inside the top ten I believe 773 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 5: at nine in Jacob Amaya, who they acquired from the Dodgers. 774 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 5: Ironically enough, they lose their short stop and Gavin Luck, 775 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 5: so you like to think that they maybe want to 776 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: have that trade back as you know some more depth, 777 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 5: do you see his path to the big leagues as 778 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 5: a lot easier than most of these guys? On the list. Obviously, 779 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 5: we know Yuri is kind of almost a given, albeit 780 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 5: his innings are going to have to be managed because 781 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 5: he's never even crossed the eighty inning threshold in actual 782 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 5: games over the course of a season. But Amaya in 783 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 5: terms of him, do you think he's somebody that could 784 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 5: have an immediate impact this year, especially given the year 785 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 5: he had last year split between a couple of levels 786 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 5: in the Dodgers system. 787 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 788 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think from a defensive standpoint, 789 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: he's like, he's clearly me the best short stop they 790 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: have in the upper levels of the organization right now. Yeah. 791 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: He It's interesting he came out from the pandemic and 792 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: he was stronger, and he got a little home run 793 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 3: crazy in the in the Dodger system, but you know, 794 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 3: got away me Like in the past, he'd always been 795 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: kind of a contact guy. He drew a lot of walks, 796 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: and now he chases a little bit more. But yeah, 797 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 3: I think, you know, if he came up, he's gonna 798 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 3: have to like watch his approach a little bit. He 799 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: might be like a fringy hitter with fifteen home run power, 800 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 3: but he could play solid plus defense and for a 801 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 3: team that the strength of Bigley club is pitching, like 802 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: like you were just alluding to, it's kind of interesting, 803 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 3: like the strength of Big Leay Club's pitching, and you're 804 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: kind of I don't know. The defensive alignment seems to 805 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 3: be a lot of wishful thinking that you're hoping guys 806 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: can handle positions or be better than they have been 807 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 3: in the past. 808 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 809 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think they're they're very in field. Would 810 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: be more stable if you had him, if you went 811 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 3: ahead and put Amaya at shortstop and you put Wendell 812 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: back at second base and Luis Arias you can really hit, 813 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: but isn't a really good defender. You know, maybe he 814 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 3: and Garrett Cooper like first base DH, you know, kind 815 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 3: of time share. Your defense would be a lot better 816 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: than the Ariahs Wendell deep double play combination. Seems a 817 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: little bit optimistic to me, I guess the best way 818 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 3: to put it. 819 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And going from that, I want to go ahead 820 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: and talk about one of the prospects that's been in 821 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: the system for a while, almost scoring up the rankings 822 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: almost every year. That's Victor Mason Jr. We know the 823 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: brothers him, Victor, Victor Victor. Victor has not really been 824 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: the player that the Marlins have hoped that. Yeah, the 825 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: Marlins have hope for it all. But the younger brother, 826 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: Victor Mason Junior fourteenth in your ranking, how does he 827 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: profile for the Marlins and maybe even comparing him to 828 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: his brother and just how he's just kind of almost 829 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: gone up the rankings almost every year. 830 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean his brother unfortunately, just put, his brother 831 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 3: can't hit. His brother has got no power, no impact 832 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: of played very good defender. His brother is kinda like 833 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 3: the nota seen nunya as ab outfielders, if that makes sense. 834 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 3: But he's older and see you have less I guess 835 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: optimism than he's gonna snap out of it and develop much. 836 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: He just doesn't hit the ball hard and there's no 837 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: impact there. 838 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 3: His brother, Victor Junior, has more offensive upside. He's got 839 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: one of the better swings, he's got some of the 840 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 3: best basketball skills in the organization. You know, more of 841 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 3: a corner guy. Well, I should take it back. He's 842 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 3: got good instincts. He's not as good defensively as his brother, 843 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 3: who's one of the better center fielders in the miners. 844 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: But Victor Junior is kind of an average runner with 845 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: good instincts. He may he may have a chance to 846 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: stay in the center high baseball. IQ might be more 847 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: of a right fielder in the long run. You know, 848 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: It's just he's always been really young for his leagues. 849 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: He was twenty years old this year in HIA, and 850 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: so he hasn't really put up huge numbers. I kind 851 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 3: of like to see him get a chance to catch 852 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: his brad. I don't know what they're gonna do with 853 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 3: him this year. If it were me, my ito be 854 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: he's still just twenty one years old, But send him 855 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 3: back to HIA and let him tear it up. Then 856 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 3: to double a once he gets going. But I do 857 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: think he is one of the better peer hitters in 858 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: the system, even if the numbers aren't loud, And I 859 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 3: think a lot of it's just been because they believe 860 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 3: enough in the bat that they've they've challenged him with 861 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 3: some aggressive assignments. 862 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think now the perfect time to go almost 863 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: to the main event of what maybe most of everyone 864 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: here was or people listening wanted us to talk about, 865 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: and that is mister Sixto Sanchez. You mentioned volatile, You 866 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: mentioned someone who could be number one A few years ago. 867 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: The injuries just give us a little been on six 868 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: though in him falling to eleventh for you, yeah. 869 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: I mean and again, I mean you could argue he 870 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 3: hasn't pitched since twenty twenty and he's come after shoots. 871 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 3: Not Tommy John where you feel better about his shoulder surgeries. 872 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 3: He said, you know, should surgery in twenty twenty one. 873 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 3: He had their should surgery in twenty twenty two. I mean, look, 874 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 3: he could be anything. I mean when we last saw 875 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: him and he was healthy, he had like a ninety 876 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: five ninety seven mile an hour power sinker. He had 877 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 3: a four seamer that got the triple digits. He you know, 878 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 3: you know with that, you know some people tell you 879 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 3: this change up, they just kind of tumbled at the 880 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: play was his best pitch. 881 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: He showed some. 882 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 3: Progress with the curveball. He just you know, had a 883 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 3: cutter that had its moments. He threw a ton of strikes. Now, 884 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 3: I mean, the question besides his health always has been 885 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 3: he doesn't you know with all those pitches, you'd think 886 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 3: he missed more bats and it was more like he'd 887 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 3: get ground ball contact than then strike out, you know, 888 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 3: twelve per nine, Like do you think. 889 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 2: He might do that stuff. But that's quippling. 890 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he got plenty of outs, he 891 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: threw plenty of strikes, but yeah, I don't know. I 892 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 3: don't to tell you he lost Well, what's the story. 893 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 3: He's lost forty five pounds? Like, yeah, Like I would 894 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 3: suggest that if he was forty five pounds overweight. It's 895 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 3: not like he looks He looks like he's in better 896 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 3: shape for sure. 897 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 2: He doesn't. 898 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't call him skinny right now, right, I mean, like, 899 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 3: so if he was forty five pounds overweight, part of 900 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: me would be, like, makes me wonder about his dedication 901 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: a little bit. That would concern me trying to come 902 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 3: back from his shoulder. And I don't know. I mean 903 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 3: when we last saw him, he had great stuff. He 904 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 3: was one of the best pitching prospects in baseball. And 905 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 3: you know the last two years he's had two shoulder 906 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: surgeries and hasn't pitched in a game. So to me, 907 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 3: he's more of a lottery ticket really right now than 908 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: something you can bank on. And again, I mean I 909 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 3: would bet if you ask anybody with the Marlins, nobody knows. No, 910 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you hope you're hoping it back to what 911 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 3: he was, but like, who knows. I mean, I don't 912 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 3: I don't know what the track record is. I don't 913 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of pitchers in this two full seasons. 914 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 3: Let alone had two shoulder surgeries out during the time 915 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: but came back and we're stars better stuff. 916 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 4: I looked into it a little bit, and just what 917 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 4: sticks out to me when you look at players that 918 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 4: had that kind of absence is that even when they 919 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 4: come back, even if they're effective, it's almost always as relievers. 920 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 4: And that's kind of why I think generally, or at 921 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 4: least science, maybe maybe that's in that category that's kind 922 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 4: of repeated injuries. I think that's why there's a little 923 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 4: surprise that he's even still this high for yous, just 924 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 4: because usually on the other side of these injuries, even 925 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 4: if they come back, it's just it's a different role. 926 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: Because yeah, I get that, you know. 927 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, honestly, if he's healthy this year 928 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 3: and he's in the big leagues, they're gonna have to 929 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 3: manage his innings. So maybe they should use him at 930 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: the bullpen this year for sure, and then and see 931 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: what they have going forward. I mean, he's one like 932 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 3: I said, like, I don't no, if you guys do list, 933 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: like if you want to rank six No Sanchez thirtieth 934 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 3: on your list, on somebody's list, I don't Now you 935 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 3: could argue with that. You can say, look like there's 936 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 3: just so much risk with him. That said, I do 937 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 3: think in this system, like we're talking about the Marlin 938 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 3: system isn't as deep as it once was. It's not 939 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 3: like there's a collection of slam dunk everyday players and 940 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 3: starting pitchers behind you. Like to me, like, you know, 941 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 3: I ranked him eleventh, like if I was saying, like, okay, 942 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 3: how low is the lowest. 943 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 2: You could rank him? 944 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 3: Like I put a forty five on him. I mean, 945 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 3: I guess you could tuck him behind the DSL contingent 946 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: and maybe you could put him at nineteen, although those 947 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 3: guys are so far away. I mean there's a ton 948 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: of risk there too. So you know, Carson Milbrand's interesting, 949 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 3: but six dos the healthy six dough has a lot 950 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: better stuff than Carson Milbrand, And I like Carson Olbrandt, 951 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean again, that's one where 952 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 3: I think if if if if if if there was, 953 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 3: if if there was a teacher and he was giving 954 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 3: everybody a test. It's like, where would you rank six 955 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: nos Sanchez on your Marlin's top thirty. I don't know 956 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 3: that there's really a wrong answer. 957 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 5: It almost reminds me of, uh, kind of like what's 958 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 5: going on with Noah's song in the Phillyes right now. 959 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 5: Albeit that's like a different kind of scenario in and 960 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 5: of itself. 961 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 3: You know a guy, you know what it's like, it's 962 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 3: like Forced Whitley with the asterisk, I do the asterisk 963 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: Like Forced Whitley once ranked is like as good as 964 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 3: any pitching prospected baseball. I've lost track when the last 965 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 3: time he pitched her how he's been hurt? He pitched 966 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 3: last time. 967 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,720 Speaker 2: He came back last. 968 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 3: Year from Tommy John pitched a little bit and. 969 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: Didn't look great. 970 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 3: But same type of thing, like you just you You 971 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: basically can put those guys wherever you want on lists 972 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 3: and justify it because there you know it's you. We're 973 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 3: talking about Khlil Watson, who's not hurt, but's the same 974 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 3: type of thing. Like there's huge ceiling there, like like 975 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: if it all comes together for six tos inches, it'd 976 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 3: be an all star. But he's also hasn't pitched to 977 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 3: years and you know, is it out of around possibility 978 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 3: it never pitches in the big leagues again if he 979 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 3: has an our setback? Sure, So like like who knows. 980 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm not trying to dodge the quote, 981 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 3: but it's like some of these guys like six Dollars 982 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 3: and klul Watson, these super volati guys like just the 983 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 3: wide range of outcomes from all star to never gets 984 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 3: to big leagues or in six us case, never gets 985 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 3: to big leagues again. I mean that's a huge, huge 986 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 3: gamut there. 987 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we even early reports on a spring training 988 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 5: despite the fact that six to lost you know, I 989 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 5: believe those forty six pounds. It was almost like when 990 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 5: CC Sabathi had dropped a lot of weight in the 991 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 5: earlier part of the twenty tens for the Yankees and 992 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 5: his fastball went from about ninety five to about you know, 993 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 5: ninety one ninety two and he kind of had to 994 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 5: reinvent himself cutter, sink or slider kind of guy. That 995 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 5: being said, though, I think if you, I mean, if 996 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 5: you were going to assess this top thirty list and 997 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 5: you know, excluding your prayers, because we kind of just 998 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 5: it's maybe just universally agreed upon here that he will 999 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 5: contribute at some point, whether that's out of the bullpen 1000 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 5: or making a spot start later in the season. If 1001 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 5: there was one person that you really had a bank 1002 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 5: on having an extended impact at the big league level 1003 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three of the of the thirty or 1004 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 5: so players you have on that pipeline list, who would 1005 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 5: you feel most confident in putting your stock in going. 1006 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: Into the season. 1007 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's a number of relievers, you know, 1008 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 3: like Nick and right, Josh Simpson and George Soriano who 1009 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: I think will see in the big leagues at some 1010 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 3: point this year. I think goes back to guy we 1011 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 3: were just talking about a couple months ago. I think 1012 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 3: it's Jacob Amaya. I just think, you know, he's, like 1013 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 3: I said, it gets too girsts to the play. But 1014 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 3: in my mind he's clearly their best defensive option is shortstop, 1015 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: but clearly, and I think they're gonna need that, and 1016 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 3: you put him a short stop, but Wendell back at 1017 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 3: second he's a huge upgrade over Luis or Ayas. That 1018 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 3: makes sure you're you know, up the middle infield defense 1019 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 3: significantly better. So I think it's Jacob Emaya honestly, but 1020 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 3: that would be my pick for I mean, I agree 1021 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 3: like Uri Perez's kind of guide all by himself, but 1022 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 3: if we take him out of the conversation, I think 1023 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 3: Jacob Emaia is the most important rookie in the mar 1024 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 3: on the Marlins this year. 1025 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of rookies or at least future rookies, 1026 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far ahead. But now 1027 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: that we have you here, just the Marlins have the 1028 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: tenth pick in the draft coming up, and I know 1029 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: it's a very far time away. What can Marlons fans 1030 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: maybe expect in terms of the players available at number ten? 1031 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: And maybe guys at the Marlins could could use. There's 1032 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: Enriki Banfield, you have your Hondi Morales right across the street, 1033 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: and Coral Gables guy like Jacob Wilson. Just what what 1034 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: kind of guys do the Marlins need to target in 1035 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: this draft with the tenth overall pick. 1036 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think the strength of this draft, especially in 1037 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 3: the top ten or fifteen picks, is college position players. 1038 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 2: And if you look. 1039 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 3: At all like most of the moves to Marlins and 1040 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 3: made this offseason, they've tried to acquire. Are even going 1041 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 3: back to like the middle last season and even the 1042 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 3: draft too. They've tried to acquire hitters who could put 1043 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 3: the bat on the ball. So I could see I 1044 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 3: could see them. You know, Bradfield's interesting because there's some 1045 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 3: like fastest playing in the draft and he can hit. 1046 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,439 Speaker 3: There's some question about his power, but I could see 1047 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 3: like guys like I'm not saying that all these guys 1048 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 3: are on their short list, but I could see Rinky 1049 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 3: Bradfield from Vanderbilt. I see Grand Kenney shortstop Jacob Wilson, 1050 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 3: who is the best contact hitter in college baseball. He 1051 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 3: struck out I think it was seven times in two 1052 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five at bats last year. And he's 1053 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 3: a son of Jack Wilson. He's a really good player. 1054 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 2: Bring Taylor from. 1055 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 3: TCU's the third baseman, then that would fill your third 1056 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 3: base hole. Who can play third base and he can 1057 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 3: really hit. There's a high school kid from Florida, Aden Miller, 1058 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: who's also one of the better hitters on the high 1059 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 3: school side. You know, Morales is more power over hit guys, 1060 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 3: so that one would surprise me a little bit if 1061 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 3: they took you Handy Morales, even though he's right there 1062 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 3: in Miami. But like, if I had to bet, I mean, 1063 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 3: that'd be kind of a hard bet to make right 1064 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 3: here in February, this far ahead of the draft, But 1065 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 3: I would bet for one of those college bats, Like 1066 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 3: I could see Jacob Wilson, Bradent Taylor being good fit. 1067 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 3: I could see Aden Miller maybe being being good fits 1068 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 3: for them. 1069 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember Jacob Wilson. You were able to 1070 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: see him early on this season with Great Canyon, seeing 1071 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: him Homer Bush and just really really quickly, what is 1072 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: it about maybe Jacob Wilson that maybe Marlons fans really 1073 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: should look at it, maybe him and his defensive of 1074 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: him being maybe the best you mentioned contact hitter in 1075 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: all of baseball. 1076 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he is definitely the best contact here in college baseball. 1077 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: He just you know, I mean, and again, I mean, 1078 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 3: he seems like an I got on the field, be there. 1079 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 3: He might not even get to the Marlins, but even 1080 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 3: the type of player they've tried to acquire, he fits 1081 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 3: that to a t like And he's a son of 1082 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 3: a big leaguer. His dad, Jack was an All Star. 1083 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 3: His dad dad's a coach on the team, assistant coach 1084 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 3: at Grant Canyon now too. And it's a cliche, but 1085 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 3: it's true. You know, Jacob grew up around the game. 1086 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 3: He's got a high baseball IQ. I think he's one 1087 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 3: of these guys who is gonna have maybe even a 1088 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 3: little bit more power that people suspect. I bet it's 1089 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 3: at least average power. Yeah, maybe he even gets a 1090 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 3: little bit more than that because he can just really 1091 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 3: really hit. And I think is he I don't know 1092 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 3: if you guys have seen him. He can get stronger. 1093 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 3: He's he's kind of a lanky guy, and as he 1094 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 3: matures physically, I think there's still some development there. I 1095 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 3: think he's got more power. He's probably an average shortstop. 1096 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 3: That would be the question is you know, long term, Like, 1097 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 3: I think he can play shortstop. He's got goods instincts, 1098 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 3: he's got solid arm strength. You know, it's probably averages range, 1099 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 3: and ideally you probably want your big league shortstop. 1100 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: To have more than average range. 1101 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 3: So like, I think he could play if we're project 1102 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 3: right now, he could play big league shortstop, but probably 1103 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 3: a situation where you'd want. 1104 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 2: A better big league short stop, if that makes sense. 1105 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 3: But I do think he hit enough to play third 1106 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: or second. Yeah, he can lead to one of those positions, 1107 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 3: I think without a doubt, and I think he's really 1108 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,359 Speaker 3: gonna hit. 1109 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, he was fun. I saw him. 1110 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 3: He got hurt diving into the stands after a foul 1111 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 3: ball in the first game. But I think I saw 1112 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, six at bats, and I saw four 1113 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 3: or five line drives, a couple of triples. One of 1114 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 3: the triples was actually home run the umpire's blue call. 1115 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, he I. 1116 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 3: Mean he'd be You guys can remind me if I 1117 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 3: get that one right. Like, I don't know if he'd 1118 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 3: actually get to pick ten, but if he did, He's 1119 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 3: exactly the type of player the Marlins have been targeting 1120 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 3: for the last you know, six months or so. 1121 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, believe it or not. DJ Sphilick, the Marlins amateur 1122 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 4: scouting director. He keeps up with some of our Fish 1123 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 4: Stripes content. So if you're listening to this, DJ, this 1124 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 4: is one guy to circle. Got a few months to 1125 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 4: make your decision. But I have a good feeling that 1126 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 4: he is the kind of player that would be on 1127 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 4: their radar. 1128 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 3: Said, I mean, it's the hitting ability. The other tools 1129 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 3: are fine. The baseball que is so high. He's just 1130 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 3: such talented player. I mean, Grant, I mean I'm not 1131 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 3: basing it just on seeing you know, four hind drives 1132 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 3: in two days or whatever it was, but like he 1133 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 3: just he can really really hit. 1134 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and with that, Eli Lewis, do you have any 1135 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: final questions for for mister Kallis before we head out 1136 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: this evening? 1137 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 4: Oh, we can wrap it up here. Yeah, he's been 1138 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 4: more than generous for your time and your assessments. 1139 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: Jim, thank you, thank you. 1140 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 2: It's fun talking Marlins with you guys. 1141 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll make sure to have you back again. Our biggest, 1142 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: one of our biggest guests ever, mister Jim Kallis from 1143 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: MLB Pipeline for myself, Daniel, Eli Lewis, Jim, it's great 1144 00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: to have me on and always go fish