1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I want you to look at the 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: images on Coast to Coast AM that Glenn sent to us. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: That lexis posted right under Glenn Stecklean's name. He's the 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: director copyright owner of the sixty year old plus Georgia 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Dampski Foundation, one of the oldest and during UFO organizations. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: The Greed veteran thirty five year airline pilot retired with 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: more than twenty three thousand hours of flight time across 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: the globe. Also an amateur astronomer, author, lecturer, and he 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: shares his own unique UFO experiences and history exceeding over 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: half a century. Here he is back on Coast to 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: Coast with the UFO reality. Glenn always a pleasure avenue 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: on the show. 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, George, good morning to you, and it's 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: a pleasure to interact with you. The last time we 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: saw each other, I believe was June of twenty nineteen 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: when we did your show Beyond Belief. 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: That's right, I remember that. I'm still getting comments about you. 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: Well good well, hopefully good ones. But either way we'll 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: take them one way or the other. 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: Explain to our incredible audience who Georgia Dananski was well. 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: He was considered one of the pioneers of the early 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: contact movement. He had taken a number of UFO photos already, 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: starting in the late thirties early forties that he gave 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 3: to the US government and military, and they became more 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: prevalent after the Second World War when he got himself 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: some new telescopic equipment and he mounted the camera on 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: it and moved to the base of Mount Palomar, which 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: is the home of the two hundred inch hal Observatory, 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: and he started taking a number of photographs clear of 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: these bell shaped and cigar shaped UFOs. They mined the 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: same photographs that I submitted to Producer that's also on 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: my photo page there from nineteen forty nine October in 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: which the astronomical staff took over a period of one 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: week a number of UFO photos, both information and singularly, 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: and this was all submitted to Project Blue Book along 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: with George's reports and photographs and what have you. So 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: his experience has spanned for a number of about twenty years, 39 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: and he was known for his books Flying Saucers Have Landed, 40 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: which he co authored with Sir Desmond Leslie of the 41 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Leslie lineage in Ireland, a Royal Imitage in Ireland, and 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: then later Inside the Spaceships. And then his third book, 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: Flying Sausage Farewell, which we re released as its paperback title, 44 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: was done in the nineteen seventies. We re released it 45 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen with editions and photographs and called it 46 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: Behind the Flying Saucer Mystery too. So George was well 47 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: known around the world. He took two world tours, lectured, 48 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: showed his films unparalleled films taken in many different locations, 49 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: and he interacted with a number of heads of state, 50 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: President Eisenhower, President Kennedy and others Queen Julianna, Pope John 51 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: the twenty third. So you can really say that from 52 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: the standpoint of UFO history, nobody stands out like Georgia Damski. 53 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: What did people think of him. 54 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: At the time, Glen, I think that he was very 55 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: well received. We were in an ear of course of 56 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: space exploration when we the scientists from Penamunda from Germany 57 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: were taken to White Sands and sequested there for the 58 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: rocket systems, and the people were thinking about space, and 59 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: of course then in fifty eight when Sputnik went up, 60 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: and then shortly thereafter President Eisenhower created NASA, and then 61 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: people's minds were in space and they were also more 62 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: importantly given enough factual, credible evidence. I mean, as I 63 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: said in the second half of my book, one chapter 64 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: talks about mass sightings because people always say, well, you know, 65 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: how come they don't land on the White House. We 66 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: are where they're not seen more or as lately the 67 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: Israeli spokesman who said, well that they're hiding from us 68 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: because they don't want us to panic. That's absolute nonsense. 69 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: If you look at look at let's just start in 70 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: our own country. Of July fifty two, all the flying 71 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: saucers taken photographed information flying through Washington's airspace behind the 72 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: Capitol Building. We scrambled F eighty six is and P 73 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: eighty shooting stars in order to chase them down, and 74 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: we got absolutely nowhere. Then you had mass sightings over 75 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: the United Kingdom in nineteen fifty four, then central Europe 76 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: through France and Paris, and then November fifty four for 77 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: one week they were there every day performing aerial maneuvers 78 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: over Roman the Vatican, and if you look I included 79 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: it in the book as well the pictures from Japan 80 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: and from Russia. 81 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: Great book, by the way, Oh well. 82 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. It took a number of years, and during 83 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: my illness I put it aside for two years, and 84 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: then finally kicked myself and said, let's get it finished 85 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: and get it done, because it needs to be out there. 86 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: So I think that it's important that people are, you know, 87 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: especially the newer generations that are so addicted to the Internet. 88 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: Everything is is momentary flash. They have no concept of 89 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: the history and the actual circumstances behind this UFO field. 90 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 3: And since my family had met and worked alongside George 91 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: and MSK, he became his personal friends and co workers. 92 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: We became exposed to these spaceships close and their and 93 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: their pilots, their their space visitors. And from there, as 94 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: I said in the book, we went to NASA and 95 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: to the Pentagon and the House of Lords and all 96 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: these institutions that treated this subject courteously and knowledgeably. They 97 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: knew a lot of information about it already, and like 98 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: Colonel Freeman said, when they looked at Georgia's pictures and 99 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: Dad's films, they said, these are some of the best 100 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: they've seen in civilian hands. 101 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got involved in this because you you. 102 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the whole family, you know, my entire family, 103 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 3: my father and mother and I. We witnessed a UFO 104 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: over downtown d C. Not the first one, but this 105 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: was in March of sixty three. There were thirty other 106 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: witnesses and the reporter for the Washington Daily News, and 107 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: it was in the newspaper the following day. And one 108 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: of these bel shaved scouts were hanging about and maneuvering 109 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: about twelve hundred feet above central Washington, d C. And 110 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: then my father said, well, we've seen plenty of these things, 111 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: and he had witnessed them as a kid, both my 112 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: father and mother during the war in Europe. So he 113 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: went to the Library of Congress and started with a 114 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: for Damski, and there were the books, there were the 115 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: photographs of the same things we had seen, and my 116 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: father wrote them and George said, I'm coming to d 117 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: C in a couple of months the lecture to the 118 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: Air Force Reserves. We'll meet then. And so from then 119 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: that's how the story, you know, gathered speed and accumulated, 120 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: and we were eventually the inheritors of Voliademsky estate materials 121 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: and copyrights, and we continued the foundation. My father passed 122 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: away in ninety one and I became a primary director, 123 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: and my mother passed away in twenty eighteen, so all 124 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: the legal paperwork and copyrights and everything like that went 125 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: from her to me. So I continue the work and 126 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: I find it very fulfilling, and I was very happy 127 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: to put that book out. I think it gives people 128 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: a realistic, rational view of the history that we experienced 129 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: in this UFO field. And my God, when I think 130 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: about all the things that they did, my parents and myself, 131 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you really don't think about it accumulatively until 132 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: you go back and start writing it down, and then 133 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: you remember things you didn't include, what have you. But 134 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: I think there's sufficient information in that book. And I 135 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: think the second check there, the reality check, deals with 136 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: the terrible dysfunction within the UFO community that has evolved today. 137 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: It's crazy these days. You should give your book to 138 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: every member of Congress whenever they do these hearings. 139 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: You know, well, we'll see what happens. I mean, I've 140 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: done a number of shows that did one in Scotland 141 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: last week. I'll do one in the United Kingdom on Sunday, 142 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to work to get the book out 143 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: in some multiple languages, depending on how the publishers are 144 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: agreeable to it. And like I said, considering what's out there, 145 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: I really don't find the material that I released to 146 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: the public any more astonishing than any of the other 147 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: stuff that's being said. 148 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: Glenn, where did you get the pictures you sent to 149 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: us that we have posted on the website. 150 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: Yes, sure, on the website. Let me see here here 151 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: the first one, or rather the second one after the 152 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: link to the UFO films on YouTube, the one that 153 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: has the white mothership and the two scouts. This as 154 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: a film my father took in nineteen sixty six. He 155 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: took two films, two very famous films. One of a 156 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: fleet of UFOs traveling in the train from Shiverstot to 157 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: Mannheim and that was shown on German national television. And 158 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: this second film he took out of the porthole of 159 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: the seven oh seven as we were coming back from Europe, 160 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: and you could see the mothership and the two scouts there. 161 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: And then as the film continues to run, the image 162 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: slowly moves and then moves underneath the number two engine, 163 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: the number two in the cell as we pass it by, 164 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 3: so that came as a film frame from that film. 165 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: The secondary picture of the scout that's a bit blurred. 166 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: This was taken by Georgia Damski in nineteen fifty two 167 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: at the famous contact site in Desert Center. And there's 168 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: also I recently put a YouTube composition on my YouTube 169 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: channel that has only Desert Center, how to get there, 170 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: how it looks now, all of that. So it's a 171 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: pretty good purview, especially for people who are going to 172 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: go to the UFO conference there in Joshua Tree. It's 173 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 3: not too far away. The third picture is a lenticular ship. 174 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: The older ship is bell shaped like the previous photograph, 175 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: and the newer ships now are lenticular shaped. The bell 176 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: shaped craft before it is only good within the atmospheric 177 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: realm of the planet, so about two hundred miles and lower, 178 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: and it requires a cigar shaped craft very much like 179 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: an aircraft carrier to bring it to the planet, and 180 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: then it uses the spell shaped craft to go about 181 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: its exercises within the planet's atmosphere. But this lenticular ship, 182 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: this new ship carries a crew about three to five 183 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: and it can go from planet to planet and travel 184 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: deep space without the necessity of the mothership. 185 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: Have they learned how to bend space and time? Glenn, Well, 186 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: they don't have to. You know, bending space and time 187 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 4: is nothing more than a theory. And as I read 188 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: recently the famous quotation that our scientists are now pushing 189 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: upon the people, they say that. 190 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: What do they say? They said, theory becomes fact until 191 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: we can prove it otherwise. You know, when you think 192 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: about it, it's science is supposed to be exactly the opposite. 193 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: So you're basically told to accept whatever they throw at you. 194 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: And if you haven't forgotten about it over time and 195 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: they decide to come back to that issue, you may 196 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: get some further information. So no, what they do is 197 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: they travel at exceedingly high speeds because they replicate the 198 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: conditions of the planet itself. You think about Earth, we 199 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: travel through space at one thousand miles an hour, rotate 200 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: at seventeen thousand. Then the planet travels around the Sun, 201 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: The Sun travels around it's a universe core. So to 202 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: make a long story short, this entire system that we 203 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: are living in is moving at about one point three 204 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: million miles an hour and yet we sit here perfectly 205 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: comfortable without the slightest clue. And they have duplicated nature's 206 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: principles because they work totally within the natural spectrum. There 207 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 3: is no such thing as anti gravity or anti matter. 208 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: They work pro gravity. In fact, the system is called 209 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 3: pro gravitic. They work along with nature because nature produces 210 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 3: so much power the planet trillions upon trillions of volts, 211 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: like a vandigraft generator, and so in order to go 212 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: anti you would have to produce enough power to nullify 213 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: that to zero and then produce again that entire spectrum 214 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: of power to create new Well, that's double work. They 215 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: think it's much easier just to work with nature. And 216 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: they can travel at twice the speed of light, and 217 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: I've heard that their newer systems are even capable of 218 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: doing faster than that. So the nearest the star system 219 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: is four light years, so you know, they may be 220 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: able to do that in a week or two. So 221 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: there's no need. We have become so enamorized with science 222 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: fiction terms, parallel universes, other dimensions, time warp, all these 223 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: other things. These are all figments of our growing and 224 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: prosperous scientific sci fi industry. But it doesn't have to 225 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: do anything with actual potential. 226 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: Well, why do you believe UFO history is being corrupted? 227 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: Well, because I think that if we look at it, 228 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: we see that there is a very concentrated effort to 229 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: take current dogma and current thinking and try to push 230 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: it back in history as far as possible so that 231 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: people are willing to accept it. So, for instance, when 232 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: the people are talking now about Ezekiel, they say, well, Ezekiel, 233 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: as it's written in the Bible, this was taken on 234 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: a ship for a ride. Well, the pro abduction crowd 235 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: loves to use that word taken because that's supposed to 236 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,239 Speaker 3: indicate you went somewhere against your will. However, in Ezekiel, 237 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: they never said that he was taken against his will. 238 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: And if not any different than saying my neighbor took 239 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: me to seven eleven to pick up a six back 240 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: of diapepsy. He didn't have to kidnap me to do it. 241 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: And so the use of semantics is being manipulated, just 242 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: like the term uap. Why UFO is well known and 243 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: it's become associated with extraterrestrial spacecraft. But if they can 244 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: get the new generation to bite on this transition to UAP. 245 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: Then an entire new focus, an entire new definition can 246 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: be re routed and reconstructed in order to leave that 247 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,359 Speaker 3: past behind. 248 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: And it's the definition they want. 249 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: Right, absolutely absolutely, And so we see that this re 250 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: construction of history. I mean, people talk about Roswell and 251 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: they talk about Kenneth Arnold. Well, Kenneth Arnold was not 252 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: the litmus test for the term and flying saucer if 253 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: you look it up. In eighteen seventy eight in Dennis 254 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: and Texas there was a witness sighting in which they 255 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: called it a flying saucer. That term was used long 256 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: before current Kenneth Arminal's time. And everybody makes a big 257 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: deal out of Roswell as well they should, But who 258 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: talks about the incident there Cape Girardo in the midwest 259 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: of the United States in nineteen forty one, And of 260 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: course there are other sites like that in Mexico, in 261 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: Russia and all kinds of other places around the world. 262 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: And so there's a very orchestrated funneling of information that 263 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: they want you to have, and they can easily then 264 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: diverge it by injecting other information that doesn't work, like 265 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: the MJ twelve papers part of it has some credibility 266 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: to it, but latter parts of it are clearly misrepresentation 267 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: and false. But what a better way than to grab people, 268 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: especially people in the UFO community who don't know any better. 269 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 3: They like to say they do, but they haven't a clue, 270 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 3: and so they start to support something, and then they 271 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: people follow them in that support, and then a whole 272 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: genre of people begin to believe something that isn't true 273 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: or has been corrupted. 274 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 275 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: oneam Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam dot com 276 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: for more