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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone. As you know, season two has premiered

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Speaker 1: and there's so much going on. Thankfully I have my

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Speaker 1: friend and co star on with me today, Janet, so

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Speaker 1: we can support each other through this madness. Yay, Hi,

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Speaker 1: how you doing it good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I'm so excited me too.

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to have you first because I feel

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Speaker 1: like we've grown closest to each other totally.

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Speaker 2: We've had to survive together through the madness.

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Speaker 1: But did you ever think that?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, no, You and I, I feel like, are so

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Speaker 2: different in so many ways, like just with I don't

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Speaker 2: know how we live and we're I don't know. We're

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Speaker 2: very very opposite in so many ways. But I also

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Speaker 2: feel like we're so similar about like our core values,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like our lifestyles are very different,

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Speaker 2: Like I love junk food. You're like always eating like

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Speaker 2: salmon and broncoli and like stuff like that. But we together,

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Speaker 2: I feel like when it comes down to like the

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Speaker 2: really important stuff, I feel like we have a lot

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Speaker 2: in common.

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Speaker 1: I agree we're we have we're like black and white

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Speaker 1: to each other, or we call each other.

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Speaker 2: Out right one hundred percent. It's I feel like, there's

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Speaker 2: definitely been times I love that about you too. Is

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Speaker 2: that like if something's going on, if you're like I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna send a text and say this, I'm like, don't

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Speaker 2: do that, or it feels I'd be like a screech

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Speaker 2: out of something like Okay, you had me until you

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Speaker 2: said this, and like maybe you shouldn't have said this,

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Speaker 2: and vice versa. But like, yeah, I feel like we

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Speaker 2: do keep each other in check with things. But then

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Speaker 2: also like if I like there's times where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, the only person who's gonna get how

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Speaker 2: annoying this is this, Michelle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do talk to each other quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're an early bird like me. We were

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Speaker 2: up this morning at like six in the morning texting

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Speaker 2: about stuff, and I'm like, you're the only other person

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's up like at the crack of dawn. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: mostly because Isabella is keeping you up at the crack

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Speaker 1: So who's the first person that you call when you

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Speaker 1: watch the episodes?

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Speaker 2: Probably you?

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Speaker 1: I think it's definitely you. I'm like, I need to

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Speaker 1: get your feedback. I would need to get your commentary, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I actually like that about us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I Jason's good with that too. But normally,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we normally get stuff when it's like

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Speaker 2: I'm like I can't wait. I'm like I have to

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Speaker 2: watch everything right now. But Jason always gives me like

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this happened in life and like a

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Speaker 2: me like he's like, no, it's not that big of

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Speaker 2: with all of it.

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Speaker 1: He'd actually be a great person the text too. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I might start texting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, text him. He's great with stuff. He truly is brittany.

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Speaker 2: I feel like his text him a few times with

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Speaker 2: most of the time to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me why did you move from Ohio to La?

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Speaker 1: What is that story?

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Speaker 2: It's funny. So I have an aunt and uncle who

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Speaker 2: live in La. My uncle's a writer. He's written a

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Speaker 2: bunch of like horror and paranormal. He wrote Paranormal Activity too.

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Speaker 2: He's written a bunch of cool, like horror scary movies

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Speaker 2: all this stuff. When I was a kid. They don't

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Speaker 2: like to the farmer's market with them, and like to

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Speaker 2: So I loved coming out here. When I was a kid.

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Speaker 2: I always got to bring like a friend for spring

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Speaker 2: I was born and raised in Ohio. I went to

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Speaker 2: so it never seemed kind of practical to actually move

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Speaker 2: I can't move to Los Angeles. It's too expensive and

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Speaker 1: We were I was going to say, how old were you?

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Speaker 2: I think I was twenty three when I got married,

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Speaker 2: So I remember thinking, like, you know, that's just what

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Speaker 2: and we started drifting apart. There was obviously a lot

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Speaker 2: on very friendly terms now, you know, we wish each

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Speaker 2: So you know, now I'm like, I wish him nothing

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Speaker 2: we try temporarily to move to California together. So we

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Speaker 2: came out here together in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, early twenty seventeen, we lived in an airbnb and

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Speaker 2: And I think I was kind of hoping, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: if we get out of Columbus, Ohio, where we're from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the problems don't go away. No, I learned that myself.

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Speaker 2: And I when we were here, I absolutely fell in

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Speaker 2: We were both kind of working remotely, so I was

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Speaker 2: and he wanted to be back in Ohio where he

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Speaker 1: Oh, he didn't like La.

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Speaker 2: He liked it, but he was like, we can visit

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Speaker 2: I also like the Ohio. It's not just that they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some people don't mind that I could never live

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Speaker 1: No, I'm a San Diego and La girl, So I've

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Speaker 2: and I remember being like, I, this is not for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Every day. I wanted to sleep all the time.

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Speaker 1: I just was like, this is my feeling too.

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Speaker 2: It was like a year of not good things happening.

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Speaker 2: And I take a lot of blame for that too.

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Speaker 2: My ex husband was you know, neither of us were perfect,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't a bad guy. Like I really think

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Speaker 2: be like in the same vicinity and it won't feel

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00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 2: like this, like weight and anger and stuff. Like, I

435
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,879
Speaker 2: really do think you guys are going to get to

436
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 2: a place where it's a lot better.

437
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 1: And that's what people say. We're on year what too

438
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:23,639
Speaker 1: already so.

439
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 2: Fresh, Like it takes it takes a lot of time.

440
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 2: It was a year or two of pain and depression

441
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 2: and anger and a lot of stuff when I was

442
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: getting divorced. And now, like whenever I see my excesson's

443
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 2: very private, but like whenever I see anything that kind

444
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 2: of pops up about him or you know, something successful

445
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 2: that's going on with his career or whatever, I'm like,

446
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 2: good for him. I'm like, and it truly makes me

447
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,159
Speaker 2: happy inside for him, and like, you know, anything anything

448
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 2: in his world, I'm like, oh, that's great, and like

449
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want him to, you know, have

450
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: his life or my life defined by our divorce. I

451
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: want us to be like whatever we grew from from

452
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: that and it's it was a horrible time for a

453
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 2: long time, but it does, it becomes this thing. I

454
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: think I saw La La talking about it recently where

455
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 2: you just like, one day your eyes will open and

456
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 2: you'll see it much differently.

457
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: I honestly hope so, and that is my dream, but

458
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: we'll see.

459
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: Saturday, we came over Jared and I came over and

460
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: got some pics of Isabella so much.

461
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,479
Speaker 1: Coming over, I was like, I really want a group picture.

462
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't have anybody to take it, and You're like,

463
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I have a nice camera. Yeah. Perfect.

464
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 2: It was the first time I've used that camera in

465
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 2: like five years, so I was like, I actually need

466
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: to dust this thing off and charge it. So it

467
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: was a good excuse and those pictures came out so cute.

468
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: Isabella is so funny and sweet, like she's so goofy

469
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: every time we see each other, and she's like, hey,

470
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: poop poop button, and I'm like, hey, I'm trying to poop.

471
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: Her everybody at preschool right now is saying that. I'm like,

472
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: we don't say those words. And then you say it.

473
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, little poop poo butye, you're crazy. She

474
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: was like she tackled me when she saw me on

475
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: her birthday. I was like, dang, you're strong girl. She's

476
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: so sweet her. It was so sweet being a part

477
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: of that moment, getting to take some good pics and

478
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 2: she like, you ended up doing Disneyland for her, right, I.

479
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: Do it every year. I just think it's more intimate.

480
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: It was just the two of you.

481
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Just yeah, us too. Jesse had her last year on

482
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: her actual birthday, so we switch off every year. So

483
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: this year was my year. He saw her the day

484
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: before and the day after, so April fifteenth, we went

485
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: to Disneyland Disneyland together and it was sweet because it

486
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: was like the first time I got to really experience

487
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: it in her eyes, like, oh, this is what it's

488
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: like for a five year old to meet a princess.

489
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: And I didn't. I couldn't make a reservation to get her.

490
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: Hair and princess experience. Yeah. I had never heard about

491
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: this until you said it. And I remember you being like,

492
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: who has a contact at Disney.

493
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: I got a guy I didn't know when she told me,

494
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: She's like, I really want to be a princess at Disneyland.

495
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: So I kept checking online. I couldn't make a reservation.

496
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: As soon as we walked in, I went straight to

497
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: the castle. I'm like, can you please take walk ins?

498
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: And they're like check an hour. We're completely booked for

499
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: the day. So I was just a crazy person going

500
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: every hour and I'm like, please, it's my daughter's birthday,

501
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: like anything. And finally, at like one o'clock, somebody's like

502
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: we can squeeze her in. I'm like, thank you, thank

503
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 1: you so much.

504
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 2: Mom thing you're such a good mom. But it's like

505
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: these moments that it's like, you know, what does a

506
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: good mom mean? And it's like it's the mom that's

507
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: running back to the Disney Castle every hour, pleading and

508
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: begging them to do my princess experience.

509
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 1: I think I did at least thirty thousand steps at Disneyland,

510
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: because we'd be at Toontown and then go to the castle,

511
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: and like wherever we went, I just kept going back.

512
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: So we got her in and she looked beautiful, oh gorgeous.

513
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: So they is it you buy the dress or do you?

514
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: So you shop and you pick out which princess you

515
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 1: want to be, and chased Bell. She was Bell so

516
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: cute and she was just and it was the first

517
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: time that there was zero tantrums and it was just

518
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: like she was an adult. It felt like a mini adult.

519
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: She like stepped into her crown. Yeah.

520
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and then you sit down, you get your hair done,

521
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: you get a little nail polish, makeup if you want it,

522
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: and then you get to meet the princess. So when

523
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: she met the princess, they were like, happy birthday. What

524
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: would you like for your birthday? Oh?

525
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 2: What did she say?

526
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: She said, because her grandmother passed a couple months ago,

527
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: she kept telling everybody. She's like, I wish I could

528
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: have my grandmother back.

529
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know. I remember when she blew

530
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: out her candles and I didn't hear her at first,

531
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 2: but when she blew out her candles, I could cry too,

532
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Like it was so sweet. And we were like, make

533
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: a wish, and she I think you said, what did

534
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: you wish for?

535
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: Her nickname is Malu.

536
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 2: That's what she was like, I wish Malou was back.

537
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: And I was like what did she say because I

538
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: didn't know the nickname.

539
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, she really caught sweet. She really caught me

540
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: off guard because it's like she can ask for any

541
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: present or anything, and like her mind went into like

542
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: I want my grandmother back, and I was just like

543
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: holding my tears and smiling.

544
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: But that's she goes to show, like how like great

545
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 2: of a kid you're raising, because she could have been

546
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: like I want this toy, I want the princess experience.

547
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: I want, you know, just about anything, but she has

548
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: like the sentimental heart, like big sweetheart. She's like a

549
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: rough and tough girl. Like on the outside, I feel

550
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: like like she like likes to climb and like.

551
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very like tomboy but also likes gurly things.

552
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: But she's so sweet, very sweet, very strong. Like she

553
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: acts way older than her age.

554
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: And I think it's great too that you talk about

555
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: your mom with her and like show her pictures and

556
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: just remind her so that she keeps that like feeling

557
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: that she had with her alive, you know, throughout her life.

558
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: And if you, I feel like if you always kind

559
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: of you know, show happy memories and here's a picture

560
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: of you guys and all of that she'll always like

561
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 2: carry that with her and that's like, yeah, a really

562
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: beautiful special thing.

563
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: And she surprises me. She he has a very good

564
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: memory yet such a young age, and she's like, I

565
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: remember we'll just walk by a street and she's like, oh,

566
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: I remember smelling the roses with my grandmother and yeah,

567
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: they were really close.

568
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: It's so sweet. That's so sweet. I mean, you should

569
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: be proud of yourself and proud of her that she's

570
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: just such a sweet, warm hearted little girl. Like that's

571
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: just really amazing.

572
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: And I know, I don't know if you want to

573
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: talk about it, but I know that you also had

574
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: a parent, your dad pass away.

575
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a tough and strange part of life

576
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: losing a parent. And I guess you always think like, oh,

577
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to be like seventy years old when you know,

578
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: when I lose one of my parents, and when it

579
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: happens any sooner than that, it just feels like just

580
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: this tragic, crazy thing that it's like you know me

581
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: and now, and it's like it's just too soon. My

582
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: dad passed away. My dad was my dad and I

583
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: had a complicated relationship for many years, but we had

584
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: periods where we didn't talk at all, but before he

585
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: for a while before he passed, we were in a

586
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: good place and just checked in every once in a while,

587
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: not every day, but we would kind of had a

588
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: good boundary but a good relationship at that point. But

589
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: he was in poor health. He had had some ongoing

590
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: illnesses and sicknesses and things over the years, and then

591
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: he got COVID in November of twenty twenty and died

592
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: from that with other complications of his like ongoing health problems.

593
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: But it was it was so sudden and sad, like

594
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: it's you know, My last text from my dad was

595
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: like a day or two before and he had said

596
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: something and I wrote something quick back, but I didn't

597
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: answer like what he had actually asked me. And I

598
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: remember being like, oh, this is this is the last

599
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: message I'm going to have with him, and like that's

600
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: always hard to look at. That was like one of

601
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: the hardest things to get through is like, Wow, if

602
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: I go to text my dad, that's the last thing

603
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: that's there, Like how do I live with this? And

604
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: I remember I was at work and my uncle called me,

605
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: who my dad's brother, who I hadn't talked to in

606
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: a couple years and I was like, something's not right

607
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: if he's calling me. And I had an amazing boss

608
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: at the time, and I was at her house and

609
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, something's my family keeps calling me.

610
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: You mind if I step away or and she's like,

611
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: we're pretty much done, you can just head home. And

612
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: I remember I called my mom, got in the car,

613
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: and my parents had been divorced for twenty something years

614
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 2: before this, but I called my mom and I said, hey,

615
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: Uncle Joe called me and left me a message saying

616
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: to call him back and it's important. And I was like,

617
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: I feel like Dad's dead. And I was like, I

618
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: have a twenty minute drive home right now. I was like,

619
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: can you please call him for me? And if Dad's dead,

620
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: don't call me back, and I'm just going to get

621
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: my brain was just like get home, get home, get home.

622
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: And I called Jason and told him the same thing.

623
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm really nervous. He was working from

624
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: home at the time, thank god. And when I got

625
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: all I put my phone down and I was like,

626
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm just going to drive home because if I know,

627
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: if I'm looking and I see that they're not calling,

628
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna know and if I if they do call,

629
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: like I was just like I just drive home and

630
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: I in silence, drove all the way back to US Hollywood,

631
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: and when I pulled in, Jason came outside and like

632
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: got me out of the car and I was like,

633
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: is he dead? And he was like, yeah, your mom

634
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: just called. I was like oh, and I just like

635
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: collapsed into his arms and I was just like I

636
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: didn't know. I didn't know what to do. I was

637
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: just like it was it's just this like overwhelmingly like shock.

638
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: It's like no, that's that can't be happening because that's

639
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: permanent and that's I'm like, this isn't how this happens.

640
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: This And I just was like going through all of

641
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: the emotions of like denial and anger and all of it,

642
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: and it will say like the one thing that the

643
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: one silver lining from that was Jason was so supportive

644
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: and just I can't even explain how wonderful he was

645
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: at that time, Like he fed me. He I'm like

646
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: the person who books all of our travel and makes

647
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: all the plans and he you know, he shows up

648
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: and that, but like this he's like I found four flights.

649
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: I think you should wait like a day or two

650
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: before you go home. And this is like prime COVID time,

651
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: when like we weren't traveling, we were masking everywhere we went.

652
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm like I can't even believe I have to

653
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: get on a plane. And he's like, we're going to

654
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: go home together. I mean, he just like took the reins.

655
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: And made it care of you.

656
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: And it's I will always like that. That time was

657
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: the time that I was like, I'm this is my person, Like,

658
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: this is the man I'm supposed to be with. Because

659
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: in the good moments we have all this fun, but

660
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: in the bad moments, it's not so bad or it's

661
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: not as bad as it could be. Because I'm like

662
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: I need to look at this. He's like, I already

663
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: took care of it. I already got this. I talked

664
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: to your mom. You're gonna like. He's like, don't worry

665
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: about anything. When people were like what can we send whatever?

666
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: I was like I don't and he would be like,

667
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: she hasn't eat today, sent her this, she wants this

668
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: like and he just he made it so easy, and

669
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: I was like, this is a good man. This is

670
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 2: the person I'm supposed to be with. He just he

671
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: fully took care of.

672
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: Everything, especially when somebody passes, like you really, cause some

673
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: people don't. Like it just depends on who you are,

674
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: if you're going to be supportive, if you're going to

675
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: be there for somebody. And I found that with Aaron too,

676
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Like he took really good care of me when my

677
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: mom passed. And I feel like one of the reasons

678
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm also really close to you is because you took

679
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: care of me and I was not, like I never

680
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: asked for help even if I'm struggling and I need help,

681
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Like I will not call anybody, like I will always

682
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: figure it out on my own. And you that morning,

683
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I had to take care of Isabella all day and

684
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: I got a delivery from you and sheina, and I

685
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I have all this food,

686
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: and just to not think about just basic things after

687
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: a passing is crazy.

688
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: It's a weird kind of club to be in. I

689
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: talked to Arion about this. She calls it the dead

690
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 2: dad club, and you kind of have to find some

691
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: sort of humor in it, but it's it's this weird

692
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: bond that you have with people who have also lost

693
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: a parent, and you kind of know what to do

694
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: and in that time, I know you. And that was

695
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: another thing. Aaron. I reached out to him and I

696
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: was like, Hey, we're going to send I was going

697
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: to send food. Can you send me? And He's like this, this, this, this,

698
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: He knew everything that you would like everything.

699
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I was like, how does she know exactly what I

700
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: eat and what I like?

701
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: And he was like and he's like, I'll cook this

702
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: and this for her. And I was like, great, so

703
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: I'll order like steak, I'll make sure she has the

704
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: salads stuff she likes and like all the easy stuff

705
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: just so you didn't have to think about it. And

706
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: he's like, and I'll take care of like cooking and

707
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: organizing everything. So that so I was like I saw

708
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: him stepping up for you big time too. He was

709
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: like behind the scenes, checking in with all of us

710
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: and like, you know, I'm like, I don't want to

711
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: bug her every thirty minutes, so I'll bug Aaron And

712
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: he was like then he just started sending like sheen

713
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: and I updates of like she's doing good today, like

714
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: you know this and this. This is the first day

715
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: without Isabella, which I think she's relieved to have some

716
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: downtime where she can actually like cry and stuff, but

717
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: also like she's like I think Isabella was a comfort

718
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: the last couple of days too, and so there was

719
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: a lot of that. But I feel like Aaron at

720
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: two behind, I was like, this is a good, good guy.

721
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: And I really grew close to certain people after my

722
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: mom's passing. I mean, you came to the funeral in

723
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: San Diego, Brittany came. I know, who texts me who

724
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't like it? Just showed me like who's really there

725
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: for me and like cares about me?

726
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean honestly, I for me. Like I feel

727
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: like our friendship grew so much during that time. Like

728
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: it was so lovely, like to meet your siblings and

729
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: your family and like just sit in that church for

730
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: a little while and like I remember us just like

731
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: holding hands and you crying and like just cry, like

732
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: just you know, like don't feel like you have to

733
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: wipe your tears and hold it all in, like let

734
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: it out, let all the feelings out.

735
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: And I think that was the first time you saw

736
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: me let it out.

737
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I was happy you did. Like

738
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: it's like this is the time to grieve, this is

739
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: the time to be sad, Like it's okay to be

740
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: It's okay to let yourself feel all the emotions, because

741
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: if you don't, it's difficult. One of the most difficult

742
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: parts of that for me was like, because it was COVID,

743
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: we couldn't have like a celebration of life or a

744
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: funeral for my dad, So we cremated him and we

745
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: had like it was it was Thanksgiving weekend too, which

746
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: now always just will remind me of my favorite holiday.

747
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: But whoa, I feel like that was like a sign. Yeah,

748
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: very interesting the lights.

749
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Our parents.

750
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an interesting thing though, not being able

751
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: to really like have that service. And it was Thanksgiving time,

752
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: so we just kind of all got together as a family.

753
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: We had like an outdoor Thanksgiving because nobody wanted to

754
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: get sick, and we were so unsure of a lot

755
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: of things. But we you know, we didn't have this

756
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: like big closure moment that you get, I feel like

757
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: from having a funeral or some sort of you know,

758
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: some sort of gathering, and so that was difficult and

759
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: something kind of I still like, I'm like, should I

760
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: now have some sort of thing for him after years

761
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: and years? But you know, I've come to peace with it,

762
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't think there's any perfect way to.

763
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: Walk the cemetery, and she picked her spot, and it

764
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: was just a crazy moment to think, like this is

765
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: going to happen soon and I'm not going to have

766
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: my mom anymore. So I think, no matter how you

767
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: look at it, it's just there's no easy way.

768
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: It is a beautiful thing. And I will say it

769
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: also made me realize like it's important to have your

770
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: plan of what you want to happen and like write

771
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: it out, like it was like when I was pregnant Jason,

772
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: I made like our life insurance policies, wills like all

773
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: that stuff, because it's like I don't want you know,

774
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: there was a lot of times where like I questioned,

775
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: is this Like I was like, did Dad want to

776
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: be buried or cremated? I don't even I was like

777
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. But at the time it was like,

778
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: I guess we go with cremated because we don't have

779
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: any of the other information or I didn't know where

780
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: and what to do. And so it's one of those things.

781
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: I think it's so beautiful that your mom got to say,

782
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: like this is where I want to be because you

783
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: don't have to question like did we pick the right one?

784
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: Are you sure she wouldn't want to be on the

785
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: sunny side of the hill instead of the wind, Like

786
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: you know.

787
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: It was a rare opportunity, I guess, and most people

788
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I know, a couple of my friends also had to

789
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: do with your situation. They're like, I have no idea

790
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: what to do. I don't know what they wanted.

791
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: So my dad didn't have a will or write down

792
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: any wishes. Like I remember getting into arguments with my

793
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: siblings about it, and you know, being like somebody was like,

794
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure he wanted it this way, and Noah, he

795
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: said this, And I'm like, well, when did he tell

796
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: you this thing? Which which one was more recent? What's

797
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: And it's like not a fun thing to go through,

798
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: and when you're there's it's never good anyway. I feel like,

799
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: you know, I know the pain and stress you had

800
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 2: for the last year and a half before your mom passed,

801
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: and the worry and all that. So it's like having

802
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: it happen sudden sucks, and having it happen not sudden sucks.

803
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: It's just none of.

804
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: It's if there's never a right time, and that's why

805
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm still angry because I'm like my mom had a

806
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: young spirit, Like I felt like I had so many

807
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: more years with her, and I feel like a part

808
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: of me feels like it wasn't her time.

809
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: And there's still days where like my dad, he's a

810
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: carpenter and he built houses, businesses, all this stuff, so

811
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: he was really handy, and anytime still now I'll be like, oh,

812
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: I wonder how I should call my and I'm like, oh, yeah,

813
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 2: I can't call him.

814
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: Like that happens to me at least once a day,

815
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, when is that going to stop? I

816
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: wish I could say like I watched the first episode,

817
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: or I see something on Instagram and I immediately want

818
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: to send it to my mom and I have to

819
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: stop myself. I'm like, Okay, I can't do that anymore.

820
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: And it's crazy. I actually, and maybe this is a

821
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 2: crazy thing, but I have texted my dad's old number.

822
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: I have his phone, so it's kind of crazy too.

823
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: I'm like texting the phone that's in a box in

824
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: my closet. But there's times where I text him and

825
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: say like I miss you today, I'm thinking about.

826
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: You today, or that's great. There being yeah, that's really great.

827
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just have to. As soon as I send it,

828
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and I'm like, somewhere he's I talk

829
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: out loud.

830
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, when like I really miss her, I'm like, you

831
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: probably can hear me, and I sound like a crazy person,

832
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: but I start talking.

833
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just saying it out loud or putting it

834
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: in that mess. Sometimes it does feel like I'm like,

835
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: all right, somewhere in the universe, this is going to

836
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: get to them. And how was it for you? Like

837
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: I remember, like, you know, my ex husband was so

838
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: supportive when my dad died too. He sent flowers. He

839
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: was really nice, and you know, even though we were divorced, Like,

840
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 2: did Jesse reach out to you when your mom passed?

841
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: And how was that experience for you?

842
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: What was My mom and Jesse had a very interesting

843
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: relationship because my mom always felt that Jesse was always

844
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: rude to her and never like proper. I actually had

845
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: to teach Jesse how to greet my mother when she

846
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: would come in when she would come in, because he

847
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't like get up and say hello or give her

848
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: a hug. He would like be on his phone, like

849
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: pretend she's not there and I'm like, get up, say hello,

850
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: and then it would make my mom feel uncomfortable and

851
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: she would stay with us for a couple of days. Yeah,

852
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: this is true story. This happened all the time. And

853
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: I literally had to teach him like, my mom comes in,

854
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: please stop what you're doing, say hello and give her

855
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: a hug, and you can go back to what you're doing, and.

856
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: So should be a given.

857
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: It's a given. The little things. I actually felt like

858
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: I taught him a lot as a person of like

859
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: what to do and what not to do. He was

860
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: just always so rude to people, and my family always

861
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: felt that with Jesse, So that was just kind of

862
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: the dynamic of their relationship. But when my mom passed

863
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: that morning, I had Isabella and she actually facetimed Jesse

864
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let your dad know, So she said,

865
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Grandma went to heaven. So he actually texts me something

866
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: very nice and it's like, I'm so sorry about your loss.

867
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: If there's anything you need, please let me know. And

868
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: that was actually my day with Isabella. And so about

869
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: an hour later I called him and I said, I

870
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: don't think I can take care of Isabella today. Can

871
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: you please take her and he's like, oh, I'm sorry,

872
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm already on my way to oh see, I have

873
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: something going on. And I think he felt really bad

874
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: or people told him something, because hours later he's like, Hey,

875
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: why don't I get a nanny for you? So that

876
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: was the first time that he offered y. Yeah, so

877
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: I was mad, but at the same time like he

878
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: did something nice for me.

879
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: It's a tough, tough thing, but well, here we are.

880
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Here we are, and I'm so grateful for you and

881
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: the friendship. And you know, it is like a weird

882
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: silver lining that you have in a bond with somebody

883
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: when you go through something as traumatic as losing a

884
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: parent together, and it's it's a thing I remember like afterwards,

885
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: you know, when my dad died, it was like Logan

886
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: and Arianna both had gone through that, and and Dana too,

887
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: and it was like they gave me all of the

888
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: words of wisdom and support and you know, when I

889
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: had bad days, I would be like, can I show

890
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: you like this old message I found with my dad,

891
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: and Logan especially was like absolutely, and would you know

892
00:40:59,360 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: cry with me?

893
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, we really, like you just said it perfectly.

894
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: We're in that club.

895
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird, fucked up club to be in,

896
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: and I don't wish. I don't want any new members ever,

897
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: but if you unfortunately end up in the club, you

898
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: do have good company and support from people who have

899
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: been through it and understand what it's like.

900
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: And there's great books out there, and I'm actually reading

901
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: one right now about signs, and I believe a lot

902
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: in that and that they are there and they can

903
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: give you signs and I've had that happen a few times.

904
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: So it's nice to, yeah, have those sort of moments.

905
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: I remember my dad when I was little, was like

906
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: when I'm gone one day, like you'll know, you'll feel me,

907
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: You'll see this, and Ei there is there's stuff every

908
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: day that I feel like reminds me of him or

909
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: makes me feel like he's present. Those lights going off

910
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: just a little bit ago, I'm like, hey, to head, thanks,

911
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: thanks for giving me a little nod today.

912
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: So we watched the first episode. What did you think

913
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: of me introducing Aaron?

914
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: I love seeing Aaron. I mean, I've known him now

915
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: for a little while and I think he's just like

916
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: the sweetest guy in the entire world and he's so fun.

917
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: Like we've done a couple double dates, and it's been

918
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: fun when we have like things to shoot or do,

919
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: and like we went and got like pizza and martinis

920
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: and like yeah after when we're all dressed up, like

921
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: I think actually you and I were in like full

922
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: glam but then sweatpants because that's what we wore like

923
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: two set for whatever promo thing we were shooting that day.

924
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I love Aaron, Like I just

925
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: think he's such a good guy. You seem so much happier,

926
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: Like it's so nice. Also, like watching things back, I

927
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 2: feel like from a year ago you just seemed sad

928
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: and anxious a lot. Yeah, and then now it's just

929
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: like I feel like I'm seeing like the light, like

930
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: airy happy Michelle.

931
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: Well, when I introduce him and I'm looking at myself,

932
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's the smile everyone's talking about.

933
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: I see it now.

934
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: It's really sweet to see. Yeah, how is it like

935
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: reliving everything with him now? And like obviously you know

936
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: we're going to be watching everything back, and.

937
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: I get very anxious because I know things that were

938
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: said and done, and so you know, we hold hands

939
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, we're in this together. Will be Okay,

940
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: we survived it. We're going to survive this and just

941
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: keep looking forward. So he's very positive in it all.

942
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: He tries to limit himself in a lot of ways.

943
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: He just was there to support me, be around. He's like,

944
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: you're filming. I want to be with you, Like I'm

945
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: not going to be home. So that's why we decided

946
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: to do it together.

947
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, he has a

948
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: very successful career outside of it, and like I don't

949
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: think there's a whole lot of that, like in our

950
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: group of friends, like Jason's kind of one of the

951
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: only ones that has like a career that has nothing

952
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: to do with entertainment and that's completely separate from everything.

953
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: So it's a it is like a fine line I

954
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: think to walk of, like how much to kind of

955
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: jump in or not. But I think Aaron's done a

956
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: really great job of it. Like he's at all the

957
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: things he would normally be at, whether there's cameras there

958
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: or not. It's like, of course he's going to come

959
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: to my birthday party. Of course he's going to come

960
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: to this and that and whatever else. So I think

961
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: he's done a really good job like jumping into the

962
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: group and supporting you and.

963
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he never imagined doing any of this either.

964
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: I mean he's in finance and he works all day

965
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: long and he's like I never thought that I would

966
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: join you or so, like he's brand new to it now.

967
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Now we have a season under our belt, so you

968
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: do learn a lot throughout the process. And I'm kind

969
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: of excited for people to see like my happy side

970
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: with him.

971
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see you happy. I mean I see

972
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: it in you know, real life all the time, but

973
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see moments of that and for everybody

974
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: else to see it too, because it is like, you

975
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: guys have a really beautiful relationship, like at you know,

976
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: coming over for Isabella's cake, Like just seeing how he

977
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: is with Isabella too is so sweet, Like he's silly

978
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: with her and like, yeah, you know, I remember you

979
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 2: saying that morning like he woke up at six the morning,

980
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: is like riding bikes with her in the driveway or

981
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: like oh.

982
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're both early birds and they're just playing

983
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: soccer outside. It's like, oh my god, you guys. Yeah,

984
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: so they also have a very special dynamic and you

985
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: get to see a little bit of that which I love.

986
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: I love how he's just like fully jumped in and

987
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: like accepted both of you into his life. It was

988
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: also awesome to see his house, Like he has an

989
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: amazing house. I love like those West Hollywood places, they

990
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: have so much like history and coolness. But I love Erin.

991
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: I think he's a great, great guy. I think you

992
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: guys are such a perfect match. And the most thing

993
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: I like about him most is like how happy you

994
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: are and like and how happy Isabella is.

995
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: Thank you?

996
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why don't we play a little game Since

997
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: I was you know, we talk.

998
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: About grief and and everything. I feel like you love

999
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: to laugh at me all the time because I don't

1000
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: know certain foods.

1001
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: You're like you are so naive about the funniest, most

1002
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: random things. And I do feel like there's so many

1003
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: things were like I'm like, oh, like like oh my

1004
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: gender reveal. I'm biting into a corn dog and you're

1005
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: like what you're biting into a corn dog for? And

1006
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: it's just like I'm like, I love when you like

1007
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: look at me like that. You're like you're doing what.

1008
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never heard such a thing who bites

1009
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: into a corn dog?

1010
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: Why I out what their baby is. So I made

1011
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: a list of some fun like basically like my like

1012
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Hillbilly roots, a little bit of stuff that I love

1013
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: that I wonder if you've tried or know about and

1014
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: if you have, like when or how often you've you've

1015
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: done these things? Have you ever eaten a funnel cake?

1016
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: No? Wait, tell me exactly what that is?

1017
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, at like at Disney or at like

1018
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: a theme park or a fair. It's like the dough

1019
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: that they fry and then they put powdered chilgar on

1020
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: top of it. Absolutely not, you have to have a

1021
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: funnel cake.

1022
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: I had a truro at Disneyland.

1023
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of it's a similar vibe as a truro

1024
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: in that it's like dough. It does some of them

1025
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: have cinnamon sugar maybe on them, but it's mostly powdered

1026
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: sugar and it's like a square glee.

1027
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: No.

1028
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: I had fall of fried dough.

1029
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: That's so funny. I thought that was the one on

1030
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: this list that I was like, she probably has. When

1031
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: was the last time you've beaten at McDonald's ever?

1032
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Uh? I think when I was in college. I had

1033
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: McDonald's when I was like twenty one.

1034
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: What about Panda Express?

1035
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: I actually had a bite at La LA's Love pandas. Yeah,

1036
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: she she had La La. I mean she had Ocean's

1037
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: birthday party and she had Panda Express and I was like,

1038
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: let me try it. And I actually thought the orange

1039
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: chicken was very cool. Okay, good?

1040
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: What about Burger King?

1041
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: Never Arby's Never?

1042
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you missed it out. Those are like

1043
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: my faves. Do you know what the Warped Tour is?

1044
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: No, I'm dead. I'm dead.

1045
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: It's like a punk rock concert tour that's like it's

1046
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: kind of like Coachella, but for like emo bands.

1047
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Definitely don't know.

1048
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: It was like when we grew up. It was like

1049
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: when I was fourteen, I was like, Warped Tour. Have

1050
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: you ever had a deep Fried Oreo? No? They're like

1051
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: also at like fairs and things like this is it good?

1052
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: It's they're kind of weird. Actually that one, I'll give

1053
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: you a pass on. So it's like, have you ever

1054
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: been to a county fair?

1055
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Yes? Last last year we went? Was it a year ago? No?

1056
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: I went with Jackson Brittany.

1057
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I remember, like a couple of years ago we allow,

1058
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: but I was invited I've been to a fair. Okay.

1059
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: Have you been camping?

1060
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I thought this was food only.

1061
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: No, it's other stuff too. Okay. Have you ever been

1062
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: in or slept in a mobile home and not like

1063
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: a tour bus, but like a mobile home? Actually I have,

1064
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, yeah, I like that.

1065
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: My dad lived in a little mobile home park community.

1066
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you. Okay, I love that. Have

1067
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: you ever been to a strip club?

1068
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Yes? I have in London. Wow, that was a good time.

1069
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I love that for you. Have you ever swam

1070
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: in an above ground swimming pool?

1071
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: Above ground, like.

1072
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: The ones that are like like plastic, that like.

1073
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: Like the ones in Mexico.

1074
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't you have to climb a ladder? It's like

1075
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: the ground then the pool sitting on top. You have

1076
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: to climb a ladder to get in the pool.

1077
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: Oh no, definitely not.

1078
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Have you ever eaten at a buffet?

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00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 1: Yes, I've been to soup Plantation years ago.

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00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if that counts.

1081
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: That's a buffet that totally is.

1082
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll give you that. Have you ever

1083
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: milked a cow?

1084
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: Nope, not yet, but I drink raw milk.

1085
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: I know Aaron loves the raw milk. Have you ever

1086
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: shopped at a thrift store?

1087
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 1: No, I want to say, yeah.

1088
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in Forever twenty one?

1089
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, okay, teenage years okay, sure.

1090
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever had to pull over and pee on

1091
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: the side of the road.

1092
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: Never, I mean I need to go to the bathroom

1093
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: and I hold it till I get to a restaurom

1094
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: so funny.

1095
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: Have you ever had gushers or fruit roll ups?

1096
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: I've had fruit roll ups when I was a child.

1097
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: Didn't I give you a gusher when we were.

1098
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you said have one, and I'm like, I'm good,

1099
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: You're like, just have one.

1100
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: At the after show, they we had a whole.

1101
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I had one. Oh no, I

1102
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: ended up having the Annie's Organic Creganics.

1103
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's already okay. When I was making this list

1104
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: last night, too, Jason was like he was dying at

1105
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: all of these and he thought it was so funny.

1106
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: And he was like, okay, since Michelle has a lot

1107
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: of blind spots to a lot of this stuff. Who

1108
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: were her crushes growing up, like in the nineties, Like,

1109
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: did you like have a crush on like Jonathan Taylor Thomas,

1110
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: Like who were the people like or like, were you

1111
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: a Britney Spears fan growing up? Like what was pop

1112
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 2: culture to you when you were like thirteen?

1113
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean I was the biggest Spice Girls fan you

1114
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: could ever imagine. I went to there there, I went

1115
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: to their concert. That was my first concert, first concert too.

1116
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: I had everything Spice Girl, yeah, and I thought I

1117
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: was sporty Spice.

1118
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: I love that you would be sporty Spice Yeah. Okay,

1119
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: all right? That Nikes. Who was like your childhood crush?

1120
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: Who was my first crush?

1121
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: Like, I feel like Jonathan Taylor Thomas was mine from

1122
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: no that what was that show called Tim the Toolman Taylor?

1123
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: That show but tool Time Home Improvement? That was oh yeah,

1124
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: no that was He was always on like teen Beat

1125
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: and like seventeen Magazine and like all those I remember

1126
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: being like madly in love with him when I was little.

1127
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think because I wasn't boy crazy for

1128
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: a long long time, and I was very like a

1129
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know this about me, but I

1130
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: was trying to be an Olympic athlete. I was a

1131
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: gymnast and so I trained five to six days a week,

1132
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: for five hours a day, so like I really like

1133
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 1: I got home eight, went to the gym, came home

1134
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: eight and went to sleep. And that was my life

1135
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: for like ten years.

1136
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: Because you can still do what I had to do,

1137
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: like a backflip or something, or.

1138
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: I can still do like a round off layout.

1139
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think we were when we were in

1140
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: Santa Barbara. I was like, can you still do this?

1141
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: And we had like a big lawn and you did

1142
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: did some.

1143
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Sort of Yeah, you did some sort of like I

1144
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: think I just did a round off.

1145
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: Maybe like some sort of back handspring or something. You

1146
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: did something and I was like, damn, you still.

1147
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Got Yeah, I'll do it here and there.

1148
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: It's fun.

1149
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think crush. I can't think of anybody.

1150
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: We're also a Backstreet, Poison and Sink fan, and so

1151
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 2: probably like justin Timberlake for yeah, one.

1152
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: Of those justin for sure.

1153
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: That's so funny.

1154
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: That feels like ages ago. Oh yeah, I just I

1155
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: was thinking about foods. I want to know if you've

1156
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: tried that are my favorites? Okay, avocado toasts with truffle

1157
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: oil and edible flowers.

1158
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I've had avocado toasts and I love truffle oil,

1159
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: but I've never had them all together but separately.

1160
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really good. Yeah. Every time I go

1161
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: to Paris, I always have to have escargo.

1162
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: I've never had it, but Jason ordered it. What's like

1163
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: the famous there's like a hotel restaurant that everyone goes

1164
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: from Paris. It's like Hotel day something.

1165
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's.

1166
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: Like when we went to Paris, Jason like that was

1167
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: like the one place. He was like, we have to

1168
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: make a reservation here and he got escar goo there

1169
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: and I you.

1170
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Couldn't try it, but there's so much garlic and butter

1171
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: in the snails you don't even.

1172
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: I dipped bread in the sauce and ate that, so

1173
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: I got like a little of the flavor, but I

1174
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: just that little tool and like shucking it out of

1175
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: the shell. I was like, I can't do that.

1176
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I eat when I'm in Paris

1177
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: every meal, every day as cargo. Wow, because you can't

1178
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: eat it here.

1179
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so funny.

1180
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: Sushi with Toro and uni.

1181
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to or uni are, and

1182
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: all of the sushi I eat, Jason, I call it

1183
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: bullshit sushi.

1184
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I hate bullshit.

1185
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: He'll eat like he'll get sugarfish when I'm like, if

1186
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm like out doing something for dinner and it's just

1187
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: him and the baby alone, he'll get sugarfish and get

1188
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: like all of the raw stuff my face. Ideal sushi

1189
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: roll would be like deep fried with cream cheese, avocado,

1190
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: sweet potato, wrapped with rice, and I.

1191
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: Just like, I just like sashimi the fish by itself,

1192
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: with the chiso leave and ponzu. I could never if

1193
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: it were up to me, that would be my diet

1194
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: every day, just like. That's that's how much I like it.

1195
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: It's really good. A Persian dish my favorite. It's called

1196
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: gormets SAPSI.

1197
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: What is it.

1198
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: It's a stew, a green stew with a bunch of vegetables,

1199
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: and it has a sour like team to it because

1200
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: it has dry lemons. Okay, it's the best.

1201
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: That sounds zay. I like stews. I like veggies. Let's

1202
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: make it sometime.

1203
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: It's so, I heard it's really hard, but yeah, I'll

1204
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: give you the instructions and I'll pretend to help you.

1205
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: I love making like other foods from other parts of

1206
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: the world. And when actually, when Jason and I were

1207
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 2: in we went to Scotland with Ariana like a couple

1208
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: of years ago, and we fell in love with Dushume,

1209
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: which is this Indian restaurant there, and I bought the

1210
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: cookbook and have been making like Indian recipes from their

1211
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: cookbook back home. And so I love finding like recipes

1212
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: from different parts of the world and then trying to recreate.

1213
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: You're impressive with your cookie. I try, Yeah, I try.

1214
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: And last one, my favorite miso glazed black cod from Nobu,

1215
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: I actually have had that.

1216
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: It's really Nobo's like one of the places says that

1217
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: I will like be a little more adventurous and like

1218
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: try some raw stuff and when it's that fresh. Like

1219
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: Jason and I did are one on one baby moon,

1220
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: not one that everyone else was invited on a couple

1221
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: months before, and we went to Nobu Cabu Cabo Hotel

1222
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: and we stayed there and literally we ate like kings

1223
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: like every night. It was like all the fresh stuff

1224
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: from Nobu, So I will have I have had that,

1225
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: and I will eat like more adventurous and no when

1226
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: I met Nobu.

1227
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Okay, let's have a no boo bait okay, let's have

1228
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: a no boot. Let's have a no boot date.

1229
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 2: I'm down. I'm down.

1230
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on, Thanks for

1231
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: having me.

1232
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: This is so fun.

1233
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk after the next episode.

1234
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I can't wait.

1235
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: Bye bye