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Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won

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Speaker 1: Taylor put this on the pole, a pick six, a

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Speaker 4: That's a wordy pole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that we'll put mbs if you need to.

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Speaker 1: But that's the way he goes out right there. It's

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Speaker 1: because mike Ya is a Jet fan. Where did you

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Speaker 5: No, I certainly didn't. I certainly felt bad for him.

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Speaker 4: And that's not a way to go out.

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Speaker 1: He should have won more Super Bowls. He might be

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Speaker 4: Nobody's putting Eli Manning in goat status.

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Speaker 3: I had to sit through last night watching that Texan

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Speaker 4: So I'm not putting that blame on Aaron Rodgers. To me,

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Speaker 1: Before I get to that, Taylor put it on the ball.

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Speaker 1: In Yes, but guys, hold on, I know he threw

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's debating like Brady is goat status

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Speaker 4: if Rogers like for me, it was always Peyton Manning's

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Speaker 4: the best pure quarterback, reading the defense, making the right throws.

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Speaker 4: Brady's the greatest winning quarterback I've ever seen. Pri Maholmes,

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Speaker 5: Eli Manning's career winning percentage. Not good. Fifty to fifty,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, here's a staff for you. Two super Bowl rings.

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Speaker 5: Aren't you the same guy that tried to tell me

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Speaker 2: Right? I mean whose career would you rather have? Right

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Speaker 1: Are you saying Sala that I would? I would take

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Speaker 2: And being a manny.

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Speaker 2: Really you would have been doing that. Okay, so you're

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Speaker 4: Right away he wanted He got a fire with Mike

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Speaker 2: That's Heaven.

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Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, you'd keep him, you'd keep Sirianni.

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Speaker 2: I would absolutely keep Nick Sirianni. Yes, he is.

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Speaker 1: Listen, he's been to two Super Bowls. I think now

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Speaker 4: Jesus the talent though there, don't you think that Roseman

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Speaker 1: If they fired sirian I would only say this, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Sirianni has done it with a quarterback that no one

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine Jalen Hurts his career on the Jets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like Sirianni has maxed Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 4: That's fair. I mean it depends. Look, I think when

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Speaker 1: So based on my knowledge of Howie Roseman, I do

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Speaker 4: To get what if the Bills lost at you think

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Speaker 4: How long until they'd want to fire John Harbaugh? And Philly?

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Speaker 4: How long?

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Speaker 4: Sirianni wouldn't have lost that game? Yes, Johnny took us

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Speaker 4: Oh, guys, I mean they did run Andy Reid out

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Speaker 4: I know that Sirianni has the one, but look at

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia's made it look so easy winning super Bowls that

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't help how smug It feels like Nick

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Speaker 1: He's perfect for Philly, That's what I'm saying, because he

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Speaker 2: He is Philadelphia, right, I look at I hate him.

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Speaker 4: I've never met the man, I've never talked to him.

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Speaker 1: I remember the I remember the incident at home where

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, Philly, that's your fucking coach. Man's

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Speaker 1: that's the way you would respond if Sirianni was coming

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Speaker 1: That's the guy you want to be the Philadelphia head coach.

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Speaker 1: I like having Sirianni's fun.

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Speaker 4: I do respect that, but but I'm with Mike like

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, who is this dupus? This guy's

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Speaker 5: Everybody in Philly who hates Siriani Sirianni also hates them selves.

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Speaker 5: They just don't know it because that's what he is.

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Speaker 5: He is a reflection of all the Philadelphia fans.

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Speaker 1: Tell her put that on the pollard. If you're from

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Speaker 3: There? There's some takes that some people have where I

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Speaker 3: The second act came out of Mynrokey's mouth. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I need to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, Malkiper Jor going to join us

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Speaker 1: It's a collective list. We'll get to it. We'll get

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Speaker 1: So on days like what Philadelphia loses and you're doing

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Speaker 2: Okay, which is just fucking amazing.

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Speaker 1: But you would know, like would you get to, like

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Speaker 1: Is it something you want to do? Is it something

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Speaker 1: I doubt the latter is the case. But are you

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Speaker 2: You know you have to do it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I think it's just a field that you have riding

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Speaker 4: it's not. Everybody's opinion is going to be the same.

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Speaker 4: you could possibly have. Eagles lose, a disappointing game, big

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Speaker 4: That is the clear. It's a layup. You don't even

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Speaker 4: You go on, you hit the airwaves, you're fired up.

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Speaker 4: You know what the caller is gonna be doing. It's

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Speaker 1: But but if God forbid, one of those hosts said, hey,

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Speaker 2: We'll try again next year. Is that post getting fired?

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Speaker 4: I think that's I think that would be ideal in

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Speaker 4: and then the fans are gonna call on and have Adham.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but the problem is WIP if they had one

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Speaker 4: That's well, that's the key. You need to find somebody

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Speaker 4: who's gonna be not just an outlier just to be

438
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Speaker 4: an outlier, but somebody, as you mentioned to, with unique thought.

439
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think you could always

440
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Speaker 4: be cookie cutter and just do it just because that's

441
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Speaker 4: the thing to do. You have to, like I truly

442
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Speaker 4: believe I would have fired Sirianni before he won the

443
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, so I have to admit that after he

444
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 4: won the super Bowl and after they have a disappointment,

445
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Speaker 4: I would have done that but I would have liked

446
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Speaker 4: to have been able to find the other side of that.

447
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Speaker 1: It's it's more like a frat mentality where if you're

448
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 1: if you're the guy who comes on the air and

449
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: doesn't fire Sirianni, I'm afraid for you.

450
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Speaker 2: I worry about what's gonna happen to you.

451
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 4: You're gonna get hazed, you know, right, people are gonna

452
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Speaker 4: be afraid to call in and say that they want

453
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Speaker 4: to defend Siriani. That that is one of those topics.

454
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Speaker 2: That's great.

455
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's great for what we do sports talk.

456
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Speaker 1: What are you are you hearing anything coming out of

457
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Speaker 1: New York just just listening, uh in terms of Harbor

458
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Speaker 1: and the Giants or anything with.

459
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Speaker 4: The same sentiment, And I just don't understand it. And look,

460
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Speaker 4: I could be proven wrong here. The feel by Giants

461
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Speaker 4: fans and the people in this market and the people

462
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Speaker 4: who are covering the team is that they are in

463
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Speaker 4: prime position as an organization to land Harball. That does

464
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Speaker 4: not compute to me. The Giants historically, yes, big market, yes, Okay,

465
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Speaker 4: Jackson Dart may be less of a yes, but yeah,

466
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Speaker 4: I mean Jackson Dart is unproven. Nobody wants to say

467
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 4: that either. You say that in New York, it's like, oh,

468
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 4: look out, But that's the truth. There's no guarantee that. Look,

469
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Speaker 4: if Harball couldn't win with Lamar Jackson, we had this

470
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Speaker 4: conversation a week ago, Guys, what makes you think he's

471
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Speaker 4: gonna win with Jackson Dart? Like Jackson Dart's a better

472
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: runner than Lamar Jackie's not. So I don't get where

473
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Speaker 4: the Giants, fans or media in New York get off

474
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Speaker 4: thinking that their team is the premier organization in the

475
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Speaker 4: running for Harball. But that's the field that I get

476
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 4: is that they expect it to happen, and if it doesn't,

477
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 4: then there should be hell to be paid to the marras.

478
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Speaker 1: Right, Listen, the fact that John Harbaugh couldn't win with

479
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson makes me wonder how the fuck he won

480
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Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco.

481
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Speaker 2: I mean he won with defense, with championships.

482
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Speaker 5: Well, no, I'm just to Sal's point, I'm just looking

483
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Speaker 5: at the other jobs. And I think that's why the

484
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Speaker 5: Giants are thinking to themselves it's us because I'm looking

485
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Speaker 5: at all the other jobs and I'm like, no, no,

486
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Speaker 5: no quarterback, no quarterback, no anything, no quarterback, and I'm like,

487
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Speaker 5: at least with Jackson Dart, there are pieces on the defense,

488
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Speaker 5: and maybe Jackson Dart is the guy. I'm pretty sure

489
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Speaker 5: with a lot of these other teams, I know they're

490
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Speaker 5: not the guy.

491
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Speaker 3: So we need somebody to put some pressure on John Harbaugh.

492
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Speaker 3: Because John Harbaugh is walking around like right now like

493
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Speaker 3: he's the bell of the ball. Well, he is the guy,

494
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Speaker 3: and the team that could put some pressure on John

495
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Speaker 3: Harbaugh played last night. If the Steelers say, Mike Tomlin,

496
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Speaker 3: let's have a mutual parting of ways, let's go our

497
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Speaker 3: separate ways. Steelers Giants franchise kind of connected. Maybe Mike

498
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Speaker 3: Tomlin to New York. And then if John Harbaugh sees,

499
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Speaker 3: oh wait, Mike Tomlin might go to New York. All

500
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, there's a little more urgency and a

501
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Speaker 3: little more pep in his step.

502
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Speaker 1: Don't you think Tomlin would want to go coach Lamar

503
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Speaker 1: Jackson and the Ravens, though, I mean, if the you

504
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Speaker 1: have him gone to the Giants for the sake of

505
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Speaker 1: this conversation, I understand.

506
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Speaker 4: That would be I mean, I'd rather I'd still rather

507
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Speaker 4: that horrible. I love Tomlin, but I'd still rather have

508
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: horriball even if Tomalin becomes available, especially with the way

509
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: that the Stealers played, let like it's the same thing

510
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Speaker 4: with them every year every year. I think Tomlin's I

511
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 4: used to love him, even in this recently a year ago.

512
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Speaker 4: It's not his fault, the guy all he doesn't win.

513
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Speaker 4: I think this year's showing with a better quarterback than

514
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Speaker 4: what they had last year. And the same crap again

515
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Speaker 4: that thee couldn't move the football last night, they're at home,

516
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Speaker 4: they could not move the football. Yeah, you're telling me

517
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Speaker 4: I would want to bring that guy in as a

518
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Speaker 4: programmed builder.

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Speaker 1: Here's the biggest indictment, at least as far as I'm

520
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Speaker 1: concerned with Mike Tomlin. You don't try to stitch together

521
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Speaker 1: a team with a forty one year old quarterback who's

522
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Speaker 1: well past his prime and playing out the string towards

523
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Speaker 1: the end of his career. That's a move that Jets mate,

524
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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and the Steelers not supposed to be making

525
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Speaker 1: that move Like it's a reeks of desperation. And they

526
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Speaker 1: simply haven't been able to find consistency at the quarterback

527
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Speaker 1: spot since Roethlisberger left, So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, think about that since Roethlisberger draft and develop. He's

529
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Speaker 4: been there long enough. A lot of guys don't get

530
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Speaker 4: a chance. They don't get three, four, five, ten years

531
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Speaker 4: to draft and develop a quarterback. He's had multiple opportunities.

532
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Speaker 4: They just can't do it.

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the time that they did draft a quarterback,

534
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: they drafted two glove Kenny Pickett right from their backyard

535
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Speaker 3: and pit and that went terrible. But there was a

536
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Speaker 3: point yesterday in the game when sims is talking about

537
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Speaker 3: the Texans defense can.

538
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Speaker 4: Win a game.

539
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Speaker 3: At one point it felt like CJ. Stroud was trying

540
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Speaker 3: to lose the game for the Texans kept fumbling, kept

541
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Speaker 3: putting the defense in bat spots, the defense kept bowing

542
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Speaker 3: up and getting off the field. Did anybody else have

543
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Speaker 3: the thought like, Hey, is it maybe Davis Mills time

544
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: in Texas? Because you just need somebody that's not going

545
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Speaker 3: to lose you a game, because the defense is gonna

546
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Speaker 3: win you the game.

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Speaker 1: Aren't they undefeated? When Drout throws a touchdown pass something

548
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: like that. I look up the record. I believe they

549
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: are put it on the poll. By the way, was

550
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Speaker 1: anyone it's Davis Mills time?

551
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Speaker 5: I promise you it's Davis Mills. Time has never been

552
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Speaker 5: a thought that it's entered my brain. I promise you.

553
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did think, like CJ Man, c J. Strouds stinks,

554
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 4: but never what happened? Yeh, never once? And I think

555
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 4: Davis Mills at all?

556
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Speaker 2: Why would you You.

557
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: Guys forgot about magical running.

558
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Speaker 5: You went on rather than Wildcat who though?

559
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Speaker 1: Who won to floaty this year? The guy who kept

560
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: this team afloat? Was it?

561
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: Uh? This team afloat?

562
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't Mac Jones, it was Mac Jones.

563
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: Yet it was Mac.

564
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 4: Jones won the Floating.

565
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: Now we gave it to Davis Mills.

566
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Speaker 1: David, they have, but Mac Jones, I mean, he really

567
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: kept that team afloat so much so he's got a

568
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: parlay that keeping his team afloat to like a fucking

569
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: seventy million dollar contract in the offseason.

570
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Speaker 5: First, Sally, we had come up with a with an

571
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 5: award to give a backup quarterback who keeps his team afloat.

572
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 5: We call it the Floating love it and we gave it.

573
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Speaker 5: We gave it to Mac Jones. But apparently Taylor thinks

574
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: you gave it to Davis Mills.

575
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Speaker 4: We'd know the one vote for Davis Mills.

576
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Speaker 3: Where that came from the first three games of this

577
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: Texans win streak was Davis Mills. It was the Jaguars,

578
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: the Titans, and then the Bills.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the defense. The Taylor.

580
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: Matt Joe, were you really were you really seriously were

581
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Speaker 4: you really watching that game last night thinking of yourself?

582
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: He was, Yeah, Davis Mills should be the guy right here,

583
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: Come on, yes, Taylor's defense.

584
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Speaker 3: He was either Davis Mills is the guy, or hey,

585
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: c J. Stroud, just turn the ball, just turn around,

586
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 3: hand the ball off to Chubb and Mark's three straight

587
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: times and if we don't get the first down, hey,

588
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: we're just gonna punt because verse going to win this

589
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: game no matter what.

590
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Right you're saying.

591
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: At some point in the fourth quarter, I think I'm

592
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: now with Taylor, okay, because it was seven to six

593
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: headed into the fourth, Strad was doing nothing and had

594
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: the defense not bailed out CJ. Stradd, perhaps Jamika Ryans

595
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: would have had to gone to Davis Mills because Drad

596
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: wasn't playing that well. Taylor, I'm with you. I wasn't

597
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: thinking about it last night, but now I'm thinking about

598
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: it in retrospect.

599
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: It's Davis Mills.

600
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Speaker 2: Time take log me in.

601
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he'll start in New England. Davis Mills, I mean,

602
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 4: Stroud was god awful.

603
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: Man.

604
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: I don't know how you go from being what he

605
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 4: was his first year to what he's been now. But

606
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: that was brutal.

607
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: It's insane because that team is set up talent wise

608
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. CJ just kind of kept

609
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: the level of where he was at two years ago.

610
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: Mike Ya, we got a text from Taylor yesterday out.

611
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: Of the blue.

612
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: Interesting, Well, why don't.

613
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: You take us through the I don't have the text

614
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: in front of me, but he texted us something and

615
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: then he made us start guessing, So go ahead.

616
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: So yesterday Taylor sent us an NFL coach has responded

617
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 5: to me asking for them to come on the show,

618
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: and he guesses, and then he sent the actual quote

619
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Speaker 5: that the coach texted him. It says, thanks Taylor, let's

620
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: connect this off season exclamation point.

621
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Speaker 1: Yes, so we naturally, you know, Mikey and I both

622
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: guessed who the coach was because Taylor told us it

623
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: was a big.

624
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Name, and we went to the biggest name of Dave Canalis.

625
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, that was my immediate I mean he

626
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 5: said it was the coach at the moment, and I

627
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 5: was like, nobody won a Super Bowl this weekend more

628
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 5: than Dave Canalis for going toe to toe with the

629
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Speaker 5: Rams and just losing.

630
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: Yes, because now we maintained that there are different kind

631
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: of losses in the postseason, and Carolina experienced not a

632
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: good loss, a great loss. That's a loss, tears of

633
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: the loss where the fans go home happy, they're high

634
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: five and each other saying, hey, we might have a future,

635
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: and they just go back to whatever they're doing in

636
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Carolina because Canalis of Bryce Young, there might be something,

637
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: there might not be something, but the people in Carolina

638
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: are fine with competing with the Rams and losing in

639
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs.

640
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: Not exactly, not just the people in Carolina. Romo as well,

641
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: was all about that. It made everybody made it feel

642
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: like the Panthers won that game. I'm intrigued here. I mean, Stu,

643
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: I know you got contacts, you reference your friends all

644
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: the time. I didn't know Taylor had this here. So

645
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: a current head coach right now, that's that's survived here.

646
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Yes, now, now I will tell you this. Taylor, he

647
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: worked this on his own. I do not know this person.

648
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I do not have his contact in my contact sheet

649
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: or in my list that the one of the coaches

650
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: who I have on my contact list is Spags, Steve Spagnola,

651
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: and I don't discuss anything with him other than the

652
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: fact that he wants to host a hockey show. And

653
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: I am in deep negotiations with Spags to host a

654
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: hockey show starting in about a month.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, God, you listen to that? Right? I mean Spags

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Speaker 2: on hockey?

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Speaker 4: Who does he have a team in particular.

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Speaker 2: Loves the Bruins.

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Speaker 4: Ah Okay, I should have known.

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Speaker 2: That Taylor the pole put it on the pole? Would

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Speaker 2: you listen to a hockey show hosted by Spags? What

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Speaker 2: a great sentence.

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Speaker 5: To Taylor's text. The thing that got me was the

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Speaker 5: exclamation point. Because few coaches, there are very few coaches

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Speaker 5: I can see being a lot of coaches I can

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Speaker 5: see saying let's reconnect in the offseason. That's a brush off.

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Speaker 5: But when you put an exclamation point like you're excited

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Speaker 5: about it, Mike Rabel is not texting you an exclamation point.

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Speaker 2: He's not texting you period, right, he is period?

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Speaker 4: Taylor fuck off? Period ye And lose my number.

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Speaker 1: I walked eighteen holes with Rabel and Golick, and Rabel

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Speaker 1: said four words.

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Speaker 4: To me, dude, it's gotta be Ben Johnson. No, that's

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Speaker 4: my guess, Ben Jones. WHOA Yes, Sally, you got it?

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Speaker 4: Is it really the coach of the moment, the hottest

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Speaker 4: coach in the moment was he just seemed the exploit.

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Speaker 2: Gave it away right. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: To Mike's point, once, I think exclamation point of Mike

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Speaker 4: at mcveigh's not doing that. You're probably not getting in

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Speaker 4: contact with him. Demico Ryan doesn't seem like an exclamation

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Speaker 4: point Guy Shanahan, No, Peyton, No, Mike McDonald and who

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Speaker 4: the hell is that? Yeah, let me to Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 5: Sean McVay, I could see you in the exclamation point

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Speaker 5: in an exclamation point, me too.

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Speaker 4: But can you see him texting Taylor back? That's where

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 2: No, Nocank's got no time for tailor. I'm surprised Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson had time for tailor.

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson does.

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Speaker 3: So the connect is back in the early two thousands,

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Speaker 3: one Ben Johnson walked onto North Carolina Football and Tar

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Speaker 3: Heels do not turn their back on tar Heels. He said, Taylor,

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Speaker 3: for you, for anybody in that Carolina football program, I've

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Speaker 3: got time for you guys.

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Speaker 4: I like that, right, I want to clip this.

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Speaker 5: And if we don't get him on this offseason, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna say North Carolina turns their back on each other.

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Speaker 1: Why you feel like he's getting josted Like in Lake Tahoe,

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I'm dou with the driving range. I'll

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Speaker 1: come over to the table and join you guys, and

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Speaker 1: then you don't fucking see him the rest of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sow, that was bad. So at the reception dinner

703
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Speaker 3: in Tahoe, nobody has ever bonded like me and Colin Joss,

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Speaker 3: Stu Stu saw he was like Colin Jos had his

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Speaker 3: arm around you. You guys were talking about like two

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Speaker 3: thousands you un see basketball, you and see basketball fan.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, Colin Jos is leaving and I don't

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Speaker 3: even invite him on the show. He says, I'm making

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Speaker 3: time for your show tomorrow. I said, Wow, this is

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Speaker 3: this is unbelievable. Colin Jos, what a what a stand

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Speaker 3: up guy. Next day he saw me and Stu Gotts

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Speaker 3: acting like he's never saw me ever in his life.

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Speaker 2: He got josted. Yeah, he got jousted.

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Speaker 1: So Taylor came back to me at the bar in

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Speaker 1: the Lake Taha, when he's like, you know we were

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Speaker 1: talking about Jos. I said, you get his number and

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Speaker 1: he said no. I said, You're never You're never gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to him again, Taylor. Taylor was like, NIC's coming

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Speaker 1: on tomorrow, you'll say, you see, And he learned a

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Speaker 1: quick lesson that when you have these guys, you got

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Speaker 1: a corner room, pit them down and physically walk them

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Speaker 1: over to the table to get him to come on the.

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Speaker 2: Show with you.

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Speaker 1: That's essentially, yeah, good lesson, BILLI. Ben Johnson has kind

725
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Speaker 1: of kicking the can down the road on you.

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Speaker 4: You know, well, well, Taylor, of course, now I would

727
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Speaker 4: fully expect that you're boys with Ben Johnson. You're going

728
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Speaker 4: to be going to Chicago and probably show up shirtless

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Speaker 4: in the stands this weekend. Oh, you did the New

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Speaker 4: England thing with Mac Collins. We got an appearance going

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Speaker 4: for the Bears Rams game this Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, best case scenario for me at this point is

733
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Speaker 3: a Bear's Patriots super Bowl. That would be a win

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Speaker 3: win for me.

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Speaker 2: That would be great.

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Speaker 1: You should go back to Foxborough this weekend. You shouldn't

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Speaker 1: go to Ben Johnson's game. You should have Foxborough are.

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Speaker 3: Earlier game time this week. I believe it's three o'clock,

739
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Speaker 3: so again that's undoable.

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Speaker 2: What are the Saturday games here? What's the schedule here? Scout?

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Speaker 2: You love schedule talk. I love schedule talk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fascinated by this. You get the Bills and

743
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Speaker 4: Broncos starting it off at four o'clock on Saturday, which

744
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: how could that game not be the night game right then?

745
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Speaker 4: And then they screwed the Niners because Shanahan, even after

746
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Speaker 4: the win in Philadelphia, basically made his place. And if

747
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Speaker 4: the NFL is kind to us to let us play

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Speaker 4: on Sunday, they had to fly across the country to

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia back across You got the Seahawks rested on a

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Speaker 4: bye and that game is Saturday night Seattle and San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: Taylor mentioned it the early game, the Patriots and the

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Speaker 4: Texans on Sunday, and then the Bears. They love the Bears.

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Speaker 4: Rams to me, that should have been the game that

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Speaker 4: got it started on Saturday. For that's the worst game

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Speaker 4: of the group. But they're Sunday at six.

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Speaker 2: I like that Sunday at six though, the Bears in

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Speaker 2: the Rams. I did I like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not a Bears I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 4: a Bears believer, but here we are.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, but I think if you're doing it,

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Speaker 1: if you're making that schedule, it's it's it's massive market, right,

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Speaker 1: market number three or four in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: People.

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Speaker 1: The Bears are one of those teams that resonate outside

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Speaker 1: of their own state. I feel like people just I

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Speaker 1: don't know, there's interested in the Chicago Bears, and they're

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Speaker 1: certainly interested.

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Speaker 4: Kayleb Williams, that's for sure, right, and then it's for

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Speaker 4: so long? But yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The only problem with putting the Bears at the six

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Speaker 3: thirty game is by the time they start playing for

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Speaker 3: real in the fourth quarter, that's going to be a

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Speaker 3: late one.

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Speaker 2: So really, right, it's what time does it start?

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Speaker 3: It's a six thirty game.

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Speaker 2: Right, then Bears don't start playing until nine thirty, is

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Speaker 2: what he's saying. Arrest.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't even believe that line. Have you guys seen

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Speaker 4: that line for that game?

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Speaker 2: Now? What is it?

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Speaker 4: I believe it. I get to just double check this.

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Speaker 4: I believe it. Is the Rams by four? Yes, according

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Speaker 4: to the score up here that I'm just using real quick.

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Speaker 4: Three and a half on FanDuel. Okay, there you go,

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Speaker 4: three and a half on Rams minus on the road

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Speaker 4: in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wow, it seems like someone likes the Rams here.

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Speaker 4: Huh No, I just think that that's a problem. I'm

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Speaker 4: a yes, I would like the Rams, but that line.

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Speaker 4: How can you not take the Bears with that line

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Speaker 4: plus three and a half?

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Speaker 2: Right? And when no one believes in Chicago?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, because they don't start playing until

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Speaker 4: I mean, everybody loves the Rams. Maybe.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, this Ben Johnson conversation led to a somehow I

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Speaker 1: the way, are we certain? Just quickly as as I

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Speaker 1: let's say the Bills get undressed by the Broncos and

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Speaker 1: get blown out and they're out in the second round?

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Speaker 2: Are we not certain? Are we certain they're going to

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Speaker 2: keep their head coach? Because maybe there still is a

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Speaker 2: chance that.

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Speaker 1: Harball winds up in Buffalo, right, I mean if mcdermac

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Speaker 1: going to survive that.

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Speaker 4: Now, if you were Stu, if you were horriball, wouldn't

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Speaker 4: you just wait it out? What's the difference?

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Speaker 2: I would?

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Speaker 4: Everybody's going to be one anyway, just wait it out

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Speaker 4: and see what happens. Just in case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like if they lose, I don't know, twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to ten and it's bo Nicks and the Broncos and

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Speaker 1: the Bills are bounced out in the second round. What's

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Speaker 1: the difference between being bounced out against Jacksonville or bounced

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Speaker 1: out in the second round against.

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Speaker 2: Denver one week? Is the difference?

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Speaker 4: You know, still the one seed?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's still the one you lose on the

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Speaker 5: road in Denver, a tough place to play.

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Speaker 4: It's still the one seed.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I head into that game and I view Buffalo

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Speaker 1: as the one seed.

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Speaker 2: I do I really right?

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Speaker 4: McDermott or Horball? That's a good question, right, So so

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Speaker 4: to me, the answer is Horball. And if that's the

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Speaker 4: case and you're the Bills, why would you not consider Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's got to be back channel conversations at something.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm certain there are.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if I'm certain there were last week headed

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Speaker 1: into that game, but the Bills won that game, and

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Speaker 1: now I'm just wondering, are those same back channel conversations happening? Like, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: if we lose this week, we might John might still

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Speaker 1: be in play.

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Speaker 3: You know, is John Harball this good of a coach

873
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: that he's holding the entire league hostage? Like Kevin Stefanski.

874
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: Somebody hired Kevin Stefanci. Let's get a domino going here,

875
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: so we you can get some coaches in place next year.

876
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: But the first domino has to go for the rest

877
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: of the dominoes.

878
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin Stefanski the first domino to go to Arizonner

879
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 3: or something.

880
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: You may not You may not think so, but the

881
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: market dictates that he is because if the Falcons and

882
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: Giants and whoever else wants hardball, they're gonna wait to

883
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 4: see what he does before they hire somebody else.

884
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin Stefanski is the clear silver medal coach here.

885
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: He's the clear number two. And the problem is, it's

886
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 5: a lot of bad after that.

887
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: This coaching cycle.

888
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 5: There's a lot of like, yes, I guess we'll take

889
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 5: the Packers defensive coordinator, even though they just got undressed

890
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter.

891
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: Like, it's a lot of like, I don't so, I think.

892
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: I think Harbaugh is not only the bell of the ball,

893
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: he's he's the bell of this ball big time because

894
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 5: of the others around him.

895
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: He's the first domino.

896
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: So we came up with a list of top five

897
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: worst coaches to win a Super Bowl, a collective list,

898
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: and then we'll get to Sal's ranking of the Rocky

899
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: movies and get him the fuck at here because he's

900
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: doing this for free.

901
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

902
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 4: So I told my wife, I'm like, I'm gonna be

903
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: all with two gods again. Keep it down. And she's like, oh,

904
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: you're getting paid. I'm like, no, I'm not get It's

905
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 4: not about that. Will you stop. We don't worry about that.

906
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: It hasn't been about that for me for years.

907
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 2: Sounds. Wife's listening to boomer Geo right now, right polls.

908
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: My mom stole listening to the fan probably okay, I

909
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: want to.

910
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: Have your mom on her. I do so great?

911
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: All right, So this is our collective list. We have

912
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: a sounder or anything. I'm just going top five here,

913
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: all right, you got a sounda tailor.

914
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: Everything gets put in post.

915
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: Okay, good, I should know that by now.

916
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: Number five, Gary Kubiak, we'll be live next week. By

917
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: the way, Number four, Barry Switzer, number three. This is unfair,

918
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like it all has to do with

919
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 1: that tweed hat that he wore.

920
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: Brian Billick. It's a tweed.

921
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: It's a weird hat, straw hat or something like that.

922
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: It's just a canoat leadership. But a very smart guy.

923
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: Brian Billick, number two, Bruce.

924
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: Arians sang hat.

925
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: Dangle, hat gangle. Apparently if you wear a weird hat,

926
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 4: you're on this list.

927
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

928
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Now number one is interesting. I voted no, but these

929
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: three all voted yes. And that would be Tony Dungee.

930
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: Good luck with that, boys, I.

931
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 4: Mean, come on, dispute it. He rode the coattails of

932
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning. I'm sorry, but yeah, I don't know if

933
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: i'd have him number one, but he definitely should be

934
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: on it.

935
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: That was stupid.

936
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: Took a little Yeah, liberties collective. That was a collective.

937
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: Well, I said no to Dungee. I mean, but you

938
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: guys were adamant. I let you have it.

939
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's the same way like you know, salsaid. Listen,

940
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: Sal didn't want to put Koobiak on there. I did,

941
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: and we ended up putting them on.

942
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: I mean, but you put them fifth, you put first again.

943
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: I took liberties.

944
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 3: And also, to the defense of everybody here, I'm looking

945
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: on Tony Dungee stats not inten in the postseason.

946
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: Not great, that's not good. No, what's hard?

947
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: Stand by it. You're right, he's number one. We were

948
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: right on that one.

949
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: If you were yes, yes, I'm strong, Sally, thank you,

950
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: thank you, you got it? Uh thirteen and eleven I

951
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: think for John Horba. All right, let's uh, let's get

952
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: to Sala's ranking of the Rocky movies. I have done

953
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: my rankings before. I will not reveal them, but just

954
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: know for me that Rocky stopped after Rocky four.

955
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 4: Okay, I have a hard time taking that. Seriously, Stu,

956
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 4: I must admit, if you don't watch all the Rockies,

957
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 4: how can you really do the Rocky ranking? And just quickly,

958
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: to preface this, I do this every year. I go

959
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: back and rewatch the movies in sequential order, and I

960
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: rank them. I have yet to compare us whitdn't do

961
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: this with you? Is yet to compare what I did

962
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: because I forget what I posted on on X a

963
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: year ago.

964
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 5: Can I just can I just say, like, this is

965
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: a big moment here because Salas joined us twice. Now

966
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 5: I really like Sal. Sal's a good guy. I want

967
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: to continue to like sal. But this is the kind

968
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: of thing that could make me turn on you really

969
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: quickly if you have breaks up friendship movies. Yeah, this

970
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 5: is this is I'm nervous. I'm nervous, right, now sal So.

971
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: It breaks up like Eli and fucking you know Eli

972
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: and Aaron. I mean, this breaks up friendships right here, there's.

973
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: A clear number one here, there is there is a

974
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: clear number one. And I'm pretty sure I've been consistent

975
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: with this every rewatch Rocky two, Rocky two. He wins

976
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: the Triumph basically Rocky one and Rocky Tour one long movie.

977
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: I like the euphoria of having him get over the

978
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: top and actually beat Apollo then and and and the

979
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: Rocky two, to me has got to be number one.

980
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: Any list that you have, Rocky one sets up Rocky two.

981
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: Naturally, you have the Adrian speech where she wakes up

982
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: out of the coma she tells Rocky.

983
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: To go fight right, and so you get goosebumps there.

984
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: Rocky two is very hot. Well, I only have four

985
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: on my list, but Rocky two would be number two

986
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: on my list. Actually it's number three on my list.

987
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: Whoaha, that's a big difference. Number two and number three

988
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 4: is a big reverse order. Yes, I have Rocky. The

989
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: original Rocky is number two.

990
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: Let me be clear.

991
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: I go Rocky four to one. Rocky three is two,

992
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: Rocky two is three, and Rocky is four.

993
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: About that wait, hold on, because I miss all that.

994
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: You go Rocky four, Yes, yes, and then I stop watching.

995
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: You're not gonna like my rankings. Then I had original,

996
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: I have the original. Well there's one, there's one that

997
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: you're really not gonna like. I have the original Rocky

998
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 4: at number two. I have Rocky four at number three. Okay,

999
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: so we're we're getting there now. Remember too, I have

1000
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: more Rocky movies. I have rock Rocky Balboa, which I

1001
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: freaking love, but I just can't. I love it. I

1002
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 4: can't justify having it over either Rocky one or Rocky

1003
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: two or Rocky four. So I love it and maybe

1004
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: depends on the year, but it's there. That's number four

1005
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: for me. Rocky five is number five, and I have

1006
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: Rocky three death. I can't stand Rocky three.

1007
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't why that's what Mickey dies.

1008
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: Well, Mickey dies, he loses the club or lang. He

1009
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: doesn't have the hard Apollo's gotta get his ass into it.

1010
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 4: He's just not into it. Like there's too much negativity

1011
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: in Rocky three for me, the Hogan stuff, the thunder.

1012
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: But you have you know, you have the Adrian speech

1013
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: on the beach. I mean, I know she gets one

1014
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: good motivated again. We've got cars, we've got money, we've

1015
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: got everything. I'm afraid, I said.

1016
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 4: I don't like Rocky being afraid. I love Rocky being

1017
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: strong and yeah.

1018
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: But I don't like Rocky losing either. And he lost

1019
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: in Rocky one.

1020
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: You know, all right, who ranks them based on adrian speeches?

1021
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 4: But he also lost in three. That's the thing.

1022
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: I based them on. Adrian's speeches.

1023
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: Had scenes in which Rocky is driving around in his

1024
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: car just contemplating life to some sort of Kenny Loggins song.

1025
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, now we're going soundtrack. I think by

1026
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 4: far number four, Rob Tepper, you know number four would

1027
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 4: be one, But.

1028
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: There you go.

1029
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: So Rocky two, Rocky one, Rocky four, Rocky Balball, Rocky five,

1030
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: and last and certainly least in the Rocky series, Rocky three.

1031
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: How much has they changed year to year? That's what

1032
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: I got to check. I'm gonna go back and look

1033
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 4: at at what I posted on X last year. I

1034
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: would say probably not a ton, but.

1035
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: It'd be great if Rocky three was the number one

1036
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: last year.

1037
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: Let me see if I could search it real quick

1038
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 4: and totally separate, right, Yeah, yeah, I think so those

1039
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 4: movies are great, but how could you put them like

1040
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 4: pound for poundful? Being truthful, those are probably better movies

1041
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: all around than the Rocky movies. But it's just, you know,

1042
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: forty years apart or fifty years of pot, whatever it is,

1043
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: I have a hard time intertwining those movies with the Rockies.

1044
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: Right, all right, we're still friends.

1045
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm outraged the Rocky three is not even

1046
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: in your top four, but it's not enough outrage where

1047
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be friends with you.

1048
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: Okay, can you what one takes to for you to

1049
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: watch the other ones? Rocky four?

1050
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: I did watch Rocky five, and that's where it jumped

1051
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: the shark for me, right there.

1052
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 4: Okay, and no Rocky Balboa at all.

1053
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: I stopped right there. I stopped like I couldn't. I couldn't.

1054
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: I was so hurt by I was so offended by

1055
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: Rocky five that I'm like, I'm done with this franchise.

1056
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: I've seen enough. I've seen the best of the best.

1057
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: I came back for Cree.

1058
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: I did found one from twenty twenty three. This was

1059
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 4: my rewatching a couple of years ago. I had Rocky two,

1060
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: Rocky one, so those two were consistent Rocky Balboa over

1061
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 4: Rocky four, then Rocky four, Rocky five, and Rocky three,

1062
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: so consistent.

1063
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: At least I'll watch Rocky Balboa again just to see

1064
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: if if something changed.

1065
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: Dude, there is one of the all time lines in

1066
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: that when he's talking to his son about the world

1067
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: in all sunshine and rainbows. Yeah, it ain't about how

1068
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: many hits you could take. It's about or how many

1069
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 4: how many times you could hit, how hard you hit.

1070
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: It's about how many hits you can take and keep

1071
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 4: moving forward. That's how when it is done.

1072
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: Yes, and no one loves that more than you. But

1073
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: Rocky three had thunder thumps, I mean, and no one

1074
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: more than me.