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I and Jmac 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: both like Dallas tonight. I think Dallas wins by a 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: touchdown or more tonight. I think a lot of the 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: NFL is trends and which way you're headed. I think 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Dallas is headed in the right direction, playing with a 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: ton of confidence now healthier than they've been all season. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: So you and I agree on that, and let's just 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: start with them. So the Cowboys over under win total 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: to start the year was seven and a half. I said, 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: bet the under. Detroit's was ten and a half. Ten 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: and a half, I said, bet the under. And here 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: we are week fourteen. They're pretty much the same. But 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I think I'd rather be Dallas. I do. I like 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: where they're trending, and everybody's telling me it's injuries, or 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: it's the Frank Ragnow retirement, or it's Jared Goff. You 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: want to know why Detroit's not as good? They lost 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator. Now he's the coach of 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: the Bears, and the Bears are looking down at the Lions. 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: That's it. It's almost impossible. It's not hard. It's really 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: impossible to replace brilliance. I remember Nike two thousand and four. 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Phil Knight steps down his CEO, Nike one of one, 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: a powerhouse, immediately starts losing market share to Adidas. Here 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: comes Phil, he comes back. We all know the story 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: of Steve Jobs left Apple. Apple was a powerhouse. They 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: begged to have him back ten years later. It's hard 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: to replace excellent people. I think Ben Johnson's different. I mean, 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: what a shock. Suddenly the Bears are as good as 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: any team in the league, running the football. They weren't 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: last year, and suddenly now the Lions are horrible on 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: third down? How with that offensive line? How would Jamir 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Gibbs with a veteran quarterback. How they're good at tight end, 45 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver? How because they lost Ben Johnson. That's it. 46 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I remember when Washington you remember this, had Sean McVay, 47 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, and Matt Lafleur in the building with Washington, 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: they were making the playoffs. Those guys left. I mean, 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't until last year, for one year, that the 50 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: regression stopped. Now they're bad again. You just can't replace 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: McVeigh and Shanahan on his staff, arguably the two best 52 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: coaches in the league after Andy Reid and I'll die 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: on this hill. The greater the talent you lose, the 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: wider the search has to be. You lose Jim Harbaugh Michigan. 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: You can't go in house. You lose Ben Johnson, you 56 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: can't go in house. The bigger the shoes I have 57 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: to fill, the more feet I need to see. And 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: when I watch the Lions, it's not Frank rag Noow, 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: it's not omar On Saint Brown is banged up. It's 60 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: not Jared Goff doesn't have mobility. He didn't have it 61 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: the previous three years. They're just not quite as clever 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: and not quite as unique, even among really good people. 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said, Dak is irreplaceable. Mike is great, but replaceable, 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: and Mikes were too good. He leaves. Dallas is now 65 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: second in the NFL in pressures. It's like, we're actually 66 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: better without Micah because we got some draft picks and 67 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: made some deals. But I mean, Miami still looking to 68 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: find the next Marino. How many quarterbacks they had forty? 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean literally, Denver to replace Elway had to go 70 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: get an old Peyton Manning. So it's just it's the 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: Lions lost an all time offensive coordinator, an all time guy, 72 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: and I love Dallas tonight nothing quite feels the same 73 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: when I watch them. The players are great. It's not injuries. 74 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: They've been injury plague previous years. It's not the GM 75 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: he's great. They just lost an all timer who's now 76 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: with the Bears. So I saw a story this morning 77 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: and it said the Broncos are the second NFL team 78 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: in history to win four straight games by three points 79 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: or less. People are basically saying what Denver is doing 80 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: is not sustainable. You can't keep winning in the fourth 81 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: quarter like Denver's doing, and I would say, no, that's 82 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: absolutely sustainable. What's not sustainable is when the Patriots went 83 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: ten years without winning a Super Bowl, and those Randy 84 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Moss years when you're scoring fifty and winning by three touchdowns, 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: they didn't win a super Bowl that year. Every other 86 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Belichick and Brady were in in New England, 87 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: all but one were one possession games. Further record, Tom 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: Brady is the greatest quarterback ever in one possession games 89 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: sixty eight percent of games, sixty eight percent in one 90 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: score game, by the way, highest winning percentage when trailing 91 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of the last two seasons, Andy 92 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: Reid and Sean Payton. So don't tell me it's Mahomes 93 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: because none of you like Bo Nicks. It's the coach. 94 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: Football has always been a game of inches. I go 95 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: back to the New England dynasty. Winning close is totally sustainable. 96 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: The New England dyning. The two things that always jump 97 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: out beyond Belichick and Brady art they never fumbled. Honest 98 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: to god, I was in New England at the time. 99 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: They never fumbled, and they were always way above average 100 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: on special teams. They didn't lead the league in sacks 101 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: very often. They didn't lead the league in touchdowns very often. 102 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: When I look at Denver, it's absolutely coaching and details. 103 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: For instance, fewest sacks allowed, that's coaching. How do I 104 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: know that's coaching because Caleb Williams last year was the 105 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: most ack quarterback. This year, he's one of the least acts. 106 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: They changed coaches, right, So like it is coaching and demanding, 107 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 1: not pandering. Bo Nicks not a big, strong guy breaking 108 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: tackles from defensive ends. He didn't get sacked. His dad 109 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: was a coach. He takes to coaching. Sean Payton. They're 110 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: also great on third down defense. Why that's situational coaching. 111 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: Red zone defense, situational coaching. And so when I look 112 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: at New England's dynasty, it was all about details. I 113 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: don't know how many times they led the NFL in 114 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: total offense. I would wager it wasn't as many as 115 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you think. I don't know how many times that led 116 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: the league in touchdowns. By the Randy Marsh years, they 117 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: didn't win Super Bowls. So I've always thought, like Andy Reid, 118 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. In fact, I looked this morning at the 119 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: top five last two years, the top five winning percentages, 120 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: winning its coaches in one score games. It's all offensive coaches. 121 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: No Mike Tomlin up there, it's all offensive coaches. So 122 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: to me, this idea that what Denver's doing is not sustainable. 123 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I love NBA teams and baseball teams and pro football 124 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: teams that win close. I think it builds character, it 125 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: builds unity. Winn by blowouts, that's not sustainable. If you're 126 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: doing that in the NFL, probably doing it because you 127 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: have a really good rookie quarterback on a rookie deal, 128 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: and then when you have to eventually pay him and 129 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: have to get rid of stars, You're not winning by that. 130 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: That's not sustainable. You don't see NFL teams going four 131 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: years blowing people out. You'll rarely get a year like that. 132 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: But winning close, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Tom Brady totally 133 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: sustainable to me. Being good on third down, offensively, not 134 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: getting sacked a lot, that's coaching. That's sustainable. Here's Sean 135 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Payton on the way Denver's winning. 136 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: I hate losing more than anything like in the world, 137 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: and so I think fear of failure is a very 138 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: significant motivating factor from a detail standpoint. And you know 139 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: there's nothing that's too small, that's not significant, that has 140 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: to exist outside the lines as well. 141 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think highly organized people don't need 142 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: wide margins, right, highly organized people don't need wide margins margins. 143 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: I can read about a pro athlete that can't retire 144 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: in one hundred million dollars, and I'm like, well, I 145 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: know school teachers that are retired on one and live 146 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: very comfortable, great lives. If you need one hundred million 147 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: dollars to retire comfortably, you're not great in the details. 148 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: You're not very efficient. There's a quality of life at 149 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: one or two million dollars in retirement. Jmak. We both 150 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: like the Dallas Cowboys to night, Greg Cosell in one hour, 151 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: I was. 152 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: Just looking at your Broncos, Colin. So, not only do 153 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: they struggle on the road this season, winning a bunch 154 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: of close games, but they faced four backup quarterbacks this 155 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: season and guess who they got this week the Raiders, 156 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: and they are huge favors in a dangerous game. 157 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: But you know the last two years, who's led the 158 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: NFL in point differential. Lions Ravens. How they do in 159 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: the playoffs, They're they're not ready for it. Denver and 160 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Chicago are like, yeah, we've been in close games. Denver's 161 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: trailed every game this year at one point, so the Lion, 162 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens the last two years before this year, but 163 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: last year and the year before we saw this all 164 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: the time. NFC teams that played Baltimore just got destroyed. 165 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: It does you no value in the playoffs winning close. 166 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: To me, it builds a confidence in close games. I mean, 167 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: if you go back to Michael Jordan's great highlights, the 168 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: first one you think about that Cleveland series, it's a 169 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: game winning shot because they trailed, or the Utah shot, 170 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: game winning shot because they trailed. Michael Jordan's highlights with 171 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the against the Knicks. You know, even Michael Jordan and 172 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: the greatest team ever and the greatest player ever. Do 173 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: you know how many like grueling six game series they 174 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: were in, how many times they actually lost at home? 175 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: You gotta win close, and I think it builds stuff 176 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: beyond just a w. 177 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 4: The only thing is they're they're beating bad teams in 178 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: close games. Those Michael Jordan there that was were epic 179 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: playoff games this is like Davis Mills. Okay, this is 180 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: the Raiders ten to seven at home. I will just 181 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: costion you after this Raiders game this week, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers, 182 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: that will be the truth serum. For the Broncos, they'll 183 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 4: probably go one in three or two and two down 184 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: the street. 185 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: What are you laughing at? Come on, here's her all 186 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: playoff teams. I have been hearing this now for weeks 187 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: about the Chicago Bears. Oh, this game's true serum. Yeah, 188 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: they just went to Philly. That was a great win 189 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: and knocked the barn door over. You know, like guys, 190 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: they keep winning, like Denver, Well this one, this next one. 191 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: I saw them play Kansas City and I was told, oh, 192 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: this game against the Chiefs will be true serum. They 193 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: won that one. 194 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: Now by me, I was on the Broncos that one. 195 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: But by the way, do you have Broncos Super Bowl futures? 196 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: Are you gonna put towns a couple of some don't? 197 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't divulge all my super Bowl future, but put 198 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: your money where your mouth this big guy. I picked 199 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Denver to win the division. 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So when I 218 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: got a job in Vegas out of college, I love boxing, 219 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: and boxing was already exploding. Thomas Hitman, her and Sugar Ray, Leonard, 220 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: Marvin Hack and I would go to these boxing events 221 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: and was amazing these fights and there'd be three judges, 222 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: each sitting in a different part of the ring. And 223 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: that's because you can all see a different fight based 224 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: on the angle. And so I'm reading a story this 225 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: morning that Old Miss players, an ol Miss athletic director 226 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: dispute Lane Kiffin's version of what was said as he 227 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: left folks different angles. Where are you sitting? I mean 228 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: movie critics Gene Siskel, one of the great movie critics 229 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: of all time, didn't like Silence of the Lambs. Sorry, 230 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: you know they rarely agreed on movies. I mean he 231 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: and Ebert. So the bottom line is there's three sides 232 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: to every story. Your side, my side, and the truth. 233 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: As they say, so Old Miss ad Old missus players. 234 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: They're bitter, they're angry, they got dumped. They're emotional, they're scorned. 235 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna hear things one way Lane Kiff and leaving 236 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: Old Miss to LSU is hyped, optimistic, energized, can't wait. 237 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a little guilt, but he's hungry and aggressive 238 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: and things. He needed his job the right way at 239 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Old Miss. And there's a reason we need divorce attorneys, somebody, 240 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: somebody to come in without emotion and make a decision. 241 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: Old Miss got dumped and they're angry, and you could 242 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: argue to have a right to be angry, But I 243 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: don't suddenly believe everything. Old Miss players and the athletic director, 244 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: and the boosters and the donors are saying all of us, 245 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: when dumped, are overly emotional, or at least emotional. So 246 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: I've argued from the beginning, you knew what you were 247 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: getting when you hired him, and Old Miss. Maybe not 248 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: for all programs, but for Old Miss, it was better 249 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: to have had Lane Kiffin and lost him than to 250 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: have not had Lane Kiffen at all. And Old Miss 251 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the college football playoffs starts weeks. Everybody's betting against you. 252 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: Why because you go to the airport, flip people off 253 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: and scream ugly things, and you're not concentrating on your 254 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: players and your game plan and your team. I understand 255 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: being angry, but I'm less inclined to listen to people 256 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: who are highly emotional. I'm really if you're highly emotional 257 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: as a coach, a little league dad, a soccer or 258 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: pageant mom, I'm not really interested in your opinion. Okay, 259 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: So this idea that Lane Lane is just you know, 260 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: he's just embellishing it. He's hungry, he's excited. It's signing day, 261 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: it's a new job. I've had four new jobs in 262 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: my life. You can't see straight. You're so happy got 263 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: a new challenge. You're putting together a staff at signing day, 264 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: you can't wait. I couldn't even get my hair right. 265 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: The bottom line is the faster Ole Miss gets over it, 266 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the better chance they have to win in the college 267 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: football playoff. Now, Joel Klatt and I right, But just 268 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: here's Joel Clap's opinion on Lane leaving the way Lane left. 269 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 7: I don't begrudge this man his movement, and he's going 270 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 7: to go, and he thought LSU was going to be 271 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 7: a better opportunity for he and his family, you know, 272 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 7: more power to him, But that doesn't mean that there 273 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 7: are not consequences to those decisions. And he did leave 274 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 7: a team high and dry, and he left those players 275 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 7: high and dry. That's going to hurt his credibility moving forward. 276 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 7: And he also went to a place that, let's face 277 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 7: it is not as sound foundationally. They might have more resources, 278 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 7: but it's certainly a lot more crazy at LSU. It's like, listen, 279 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 7: you know you can go with a six to prom 280 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 7: and that six is going to be committed to you. 281 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: You take the nine. She might be crazy. I think 282 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: LSU and Lane Kiffin both are a little crazy. It's 283 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: not a thirty year marriage. It's going to be like 284 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: a or for your relationship. And I can't wait to 285 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: watch Hollywood divorces are far more interesting than stable thirty 286 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: year marriages. Not saying they're better for society, they're better 287 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: for the kids. Yeah, Lane's a little crazy. LSU's a 288 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: little crazy. Okay. There is a reason eyewitness testimony is 289 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: the least reliable evidence. People are highly emotional. Take a 290 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: deep breath, ale miss, concentrate on you keep the thing 291 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: the thing. Bitterness doesn't win playoff games. 292 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: One more heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, 293 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd 294 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 295 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: With that, Greg Cosel forty six years NFL Films always 296 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: joined us on Thursday. What's been more impressive to you 297 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys? The offense, Greg, or the defense? 298 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 8: I would think the defense, Colin, because look, as you 299 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 8: know what, the first five six weeks people are laughing 300 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 8: at their defense, and now you know they made those trades. 301 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 8: Obviously they got Kenny Clark before the season, but the 302 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 8: ind season trades they have made been really impressive. And 303 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 8: the trio of d tackles is as good a trio 304 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 8: as any in the league. And as you probably noticed, 305 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 8: three weeks ago, the rookie corner Revel from East Carolina 306 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 8: started to play, and then this past week on Thanksgiving, 307 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 8: he played pretty much every snap. And now what they've done, 308 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 8: and I think you'll continue to see this tonight, is 309 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 8: now they've played Revel and Bridges, who's got a lot 310 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 8: of length on the outside, and they've moved Bland to 311 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 8: the slot where he's better. Bland is not a very 312 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 8: good outside corner, so now they moved him into the 313 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 8: slot where he first really made his heay in the league. 314 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 8: And they're much better on the back end. But with 315 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 8: what they've done up front, the returner of overshown, the 316 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 8: trading for Logan Wilson, suddenly this defense, well it's not 317 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 8: top five in the league, but it's a good enough 318 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 8: defense to win game games. 319 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: All right. So a game that's a little under the radar, 320 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: although Josh Allen games are never truly under the radar. 321 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: Bills play the Bengals and here's Joe Burraw. Yeah, and 322 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: my take is Cincinnati and Burrow are going to be 323 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: the number one spoiler in the end, and it may 324 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs. But what did you see with 325 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Burrow's first start, because the numbers tell me he was 326 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: pretty good. 327 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Burrow's always been a guy. 328 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 8: First of all, he's so good pre snap and then 329 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 8: getting into the post snap operation phase. He's just one 330 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 8: of those guys. He's like a computer chip. He just 331 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 8: sees it. It's innate, it's in his DNA. And he's 332 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 8: always been a guy. Now, granted, he's got good receivers, 333 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 8: we understand that, but he's always been a guy that 334 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 8: understands the NFL that if it's one on one, you've 335 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 8: got to throw the football, and that if that doesn't work, 336 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 8: that means you don't need another quarterback. 337 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 5: It means you need new receivers. 338 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 8: But he's got receivers, so he's going to push it 339 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 8: down the field. They'll be one on ones against these 340 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 8: Bills corners and we'll see how. 341 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 5: That plays out. On the other side. 342 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 8: The Bills, to me, are one of the most fascinating 343 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 8: studies on offense in this league. They've got the most 344 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 8: physically gifted quarterback in the league. 345 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: I don't know the reason why they choose not to 346 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 5: throw the ball. 347 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 8: Maybe they don't like their receivers, but with the most 348 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 8: physically gifted quarterback in the league, they are not a 349 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 8: passing team. 350 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 5: They don't throw the ball down the field. 351 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 8: In fact, they don't want to throw it a whole 352 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 8: lot in terms of volume unless they're forced to. But 353 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 8: that's not the way they choose to play. And I 354 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 8: give Aaron Kromer, they're all line coach who's been doing this. 355 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 8: You probably know Aaron, he's been doing this for twenty 356 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 8: twenty five years. Absolutely one of the best in the league. 357 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 8: Their run game is so good, it's so multiple, it's 358 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 8: specific to the opponent. I mean last week against the Steelers, 359 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 8: Cook and Davis had. 360 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 5: Forty one runs combined. 361 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 8: Colin they did not pull an offensive lineman one time, 362 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 8: so it was all zone. 363 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 5: It was all zone based. 364 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 8: Yet we've seen them have that run game where they 365 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 8: have the counter run game with Hawes and Gilliam the 366 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 8: fullback and been successful through the year doing that. So 367 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 8: they are very specific to the opponent in how they 368 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 8: feel is the best way to attack. 369 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 5: But this is a running football team and. 370 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 8: They only really rely on Josh Allen when they think 371 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 8: they need to. 372 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: Okay, another game. It's basically the season for the Kansas 373 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: City Chiefs the Houston Texans. Let's start with Houston. So 374 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: I prefer offensive coaches. But if you're gonna go defense, 375 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: go young, Mike McDonald to me, Goo Ryans. I remember 376 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: before Demiko got the job, people in the Niners organization 377 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: were saying, We're never going to keep this guy. He's 378 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: just too stright, he's too bright. Well, so I watch 379 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: Houston's defense. It's the best in the league. Is it schemes? 380 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Is it coaching? Because they make every quarterback struggle. It's 381 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: like they're playing with an extra man. What is it 382 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: about their defense? Is it just better personnel or coaching? 383 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 8: It's both because obviously, if you look at the personnel, 384 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 8: they're really good at all three levels. And based on 385 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 8: my film study, I would argue that Cale and Bullock 386 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 8: is the best post safety in the league this season, 387 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 8: in his second year in the league. 388 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 5: Out of USC. 389 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 8: You're probably very familiar with them, being you know, from USC, 390 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 8: really good football player, really good, long, smart, good, good athlete. 391 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 8: But obviously we know about Hunter and Anderson. They're really 392 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 8: good inside too. No one talks about what they put 393 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 8: out there on the inside at the detackle position. But 394 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 8: the one thing about Tamiko Ryans is he's very technical, 395 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 8: so in specific situations he will bring pressure and they're 396 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 8: very good with their concepts. Now, based on the rest 397 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 8: of the league, they're not a high percentage pressure defense, 398 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 8: but they're very schematic and tactical with when when they 399 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 8: bring pressure, and they're very very good at it, and 400 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 8: they stunt, and they've got guys who can stunt, really 401 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 8: good athletes. So this is a really difficult defense to 402 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 8: play against. You and I are talking on a Thursday. 403 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 8: I have no idea what the status is. We know 404 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 8: Simmons the left tackle went on IR. I don't know 405 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 8: if Tray Smith the guard's gonna pla. We don't know 406 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 8: if Jowan Taylor's going to play. So imagine if you 407 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 8: have all these backups on your offensive line and now 408 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 8: you've got that defensive line that you've got to play against. 409 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: By the way, what is the identity of the Chiefs 410 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: offense today? What is it? 411 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 8: I would say it's Patrick Mahomes being special. And I'm 412 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 8: not trying to be sarcastic. I think the more you 413 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 8: watch and I watch, I think I've watched every Mahomes 414 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 8: game in the league since he's been in the league. 415 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 8: It almost seems to me watching his tape Colin that 416 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 8: more and more he's become an improvisational stud as opposed 417 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 8: to a pocket technician. Now that's not to say he's 418 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 8: not capable of playing from the pocket, of course he is. 419 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 8: He's extremely gifted. But it seems the more I watch, 420 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 8: the more it's become a case of him getting outside 421 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 8: of play design, making incredible plays. That's what he did 422 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 8: last week when he almost brought them back to victory, 423 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 8: you know, against the Cowboys. 424 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: It seems there's more and more of that now. 425 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 8: He's so good at it that they can kind of survive, 426 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 8: although they're six and six this year. I think this 427 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 8: is a game where he's going to move around a lot. 428 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 8: But I don't think they have a true identity in 429 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 8: the way I think you're using the word Ravens Steelers. 430 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of feels again kind of this 431 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: is it for Pittsburgh. Is the Steelers offense broken? 432 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 5: I'm not sure Steelers an offense or two words that 433 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 5: go together very much. These days. 434 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 8: They're a tough offense to watch. I mean, you talk 435 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 8: about you know identity. I don't know what they are 436 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 8: other than the fact that they line up a lot 437 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 8: with the big people. 438 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 5: They play with two. 439 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 8: Tight ends, they play with three tight ends. I think 440 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 8: they'd like to run the football, but that's been very 441 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 8: up and down. You don't know from week to week 442 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 8: if they're going to have any kind of sustaining run game. 443 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 5: I'm not sure what the past game is. 444 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 8: They really don't work the middle of the field much 445 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 8: at all, which is not a function of the quarterback. 446 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers can obviously still throw the football. Sometimes, I 447 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 8: feel watching their tape that their number one receiver is 448 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 8: becoming Darnell Washington at three hundred and eleven pounds. So 449 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 8: it's I'm not sure what they are on offense, and 450 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 8: I don't know if right now I feel like watching 451 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 8: their tape that you can hang your hat on anything 452 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 8: and say, hey, this is what they bring to the 453 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 8: table every single week. 454 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: I want to talk about a team that we've kind 455 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: of forgotten about once they lost their tackles. But we've 456 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: talked about the Chiefs so much, we've talked about Denver 457 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: that quietly this defense with the Chargers. They're eight and four, 458 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: they're at home. I'm absolutely a live shot to beat Philadelphia. 459 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know how they run the ball with 460 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: this offensive line. I have no idea. It's not good, right, 461 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: But it's mostly been a defensive story with Jesse Minter Again, 462 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I'll ask you the question I did with Houston. Is 463 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: it coaching or scheme with a Chargers defense it's number 464 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: two or three in the league right now. 465 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's both. 466 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 8: But I think one of the things that stands out 467 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 8: when you watch their defense, and they have a lot 468 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 8: of players people may not be aware. 469 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 5: They don't know their names. 470 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 8: They're not household names, but they've got a lot of 471 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 8: pieces that can line up in different positions and they're 472 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 8: very multi positional, multi dimensional. Look, we know about Derwin James, 473 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 8: he's the name everybody knows. Not a lot of people 474 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 8: probably know about tar Heeeb still a corner who plays 475 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 8: outside in their base, moves inside in their sub defenses, 476 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 8: and by the way, is very in the dime really 477 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 8: because they play nickel all the time. It's that big 478 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 8: nickel with Drwin James, so in their dying he plays 479 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 8: inside and he's a major part of. 480 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: Their pressure packages. 481 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 8: Tuoy Polot he's a guy that plays both outside and inside. 482 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 8: A really good player. I'm sure not a lot of 483 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 8: people are aware of him. Diane Henley really good linebacker. 484 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 8: Another guy that lines up in multiple positions within their 485 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 8: different defensive structures, so they have a lot of movable 486 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 8: chess pieces within their defense. And Jesse Minter obviously is 487 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 8: coaching really well, because when you ask guys to have 488 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 8: a lot of different responsibilities based on different personnel, that 489 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 8: means you're teaching really really well. 490 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I want to talk about Jackson Dart for 491 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: a second, so I watch him sirst opposed with Drake May. 492 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: Drake May does everything well. Drake May was a little 493 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: reckless his first year, spend a lot of time in 494 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: the blue tent. He doesn't anymore. He cleaned it up. No. 495 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: I watch Jackson Dart, and the Giants are so desperate 496 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: at quarterback. They've been so bad for so many years. 497 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: They're just clinging to anything that work. They cling to 498 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito a couple of years ago. I watched Jackson. 499 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: I watch Jackson Dart, and I think he's a bit 500 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: of a splash player. He's memorable, he's confident. I is 501 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: he a guy that can throw forty two times a game. 502 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: What is the film say, not the media, not the fan. 503 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: What is the film say on Jackson Dart? 504 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 8: Well, the first thing I want to say is we're 505 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 8: not going to define his whole career about what we've 506 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 8: seen this year. 507 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 5: So I want people to understand that. 508 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 8: So right now, Jackson Dart is a quarterback that is 509 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 8: not seeing things as clearly as you need to. And 510 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 8: when you're a quarterback that has mobility, Colin, and you 511 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 8: don't see things as clearly as you need to on 512 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 8: a consistent fasis, what do you do? 513 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 5: You run? 514 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 8: And that's what he does, and he's very good at it, 515 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 8: but he can't take the kind of hits we're looking 516 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 8: at now. He's spent almost every one of his games, 517 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 8: maybe with just one or two exceptions in the blue 518 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 8: ten and obviously he missed a couple of weeks dude 519 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 8: to being in the concussion protocol. So ideally, as he 520 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 8: plays more, he starts to see things with more clarity, 521 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 8: gets a better picture pre snap that translates to post snap. 522 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 8: He becomes more of a post snap operator and therefore 523 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 8: can drop in the pocket, see it and throw the football. 524 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 8: Because you can't play like this on a consistent basis. 525 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 8: It's it's not sustainable and he's not big, by the way, 526 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 8: so it's not as if that he can you know, 527 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 8: the body is it can handle all this. So we'll 528 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 8: see how it plays out. But like I said, I'm 529 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 8: not defining his whole career. He's a rookie on a 530 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 8: team that's not very good, so he's it's just how 531 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 8: it's playing out this year. 532 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, another young guy, Shador Sander. I can't go through 533 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: a segment. Yeah, second start you know again, what's the 534 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: film say on Shador? 535 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, Chador was not very good this week. 536 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 8: And I think the way I always look at it 537 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 8: when I watch young guys, I feel the same way 538 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 8: about cam Ward is they are still playing a little 539 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 8: bit out of college speed. You have to get back 540 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 8: in the pocket. You've got to see it, you've got 541 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 8: to deliver the football. This week, he didn't see things 542 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 8: the way he needed to. He left a lot of 543 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 8: throws on the field by not turning it loose when 544 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 8: the design of the route concept was clean, it was there. 545 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 8: If he threw the ball this week when he should have, 546 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 8: Jerry Judy would have had one hundred and seventy five 547 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 8: receiving yards and that doesn't even include that play, which 548 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 8: was actually a second reaction and adjustment. 549 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 5: Play that we just saw. 550 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 8: But for the most part this week, the processing just 551 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 8: was was a little slow. 552 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 5: Now again, he needs more reps. 553 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 8: This is not a condemnation or a referendum on his 554 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 8: entire career and what it's going to be Colin. He 555 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 8: needs a lot of reps. He needs to play to 556 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 8: the speed of the NFL game, and right now he's 557 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 8: not doing that. And there's one thing that is very 558 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 8: coachable that he had this issue in college and it 559 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 8: flared up again this week. He has a tendency when 560 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 8: he moves to hold the ball with one hand. You 561 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 8: cannot do that in the NFL. That can be coached 562 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 8: and cleaned up. 563 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: Okay, the best game of the weekend Bears Packers. So 564 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: let's start with the Bears. I love it. It's so 565 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: old school Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson would run at fifty 566 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: five times, I mean, is it now? First of all, 567 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: when he got there, he went and got Drew Dolman 568 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: and Joe Tooney and Jonah Jackson, so it was very 569 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: clear what he wanted to do. Established for a young 570 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: quarterback a big time run game. Is it a beautiful 571 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: thing to watch when you look at film. 572 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 5: Well, this week it was beautiful. 573 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 8: They ran outside zone is their predominant run against the Eagles, 574 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 8: and the Eagles they played it the wrong way and 575 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 8: they know that you can't play outside zone by playing 576 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 8: laterally and just sliding down the line of scrimmage. There 577 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 8: has to be some kind of vertical knocked Now, you 578 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 8: don't want to shoot gaps, but there has to be 579 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 8: some kind of vertical knockback, and the Eagles didn't do that. 580 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 8: You know, they've got the second best running game in 581 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 8: the NFL, and a lot of people probably aren't aware 582 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 8: of that because all you want to talk about is 583 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 8: Caleb Williams. That's what most people want to talk about. 584 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 8: But their run game has been really solid. The Menungae 585 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 8: kid has been really good. He's a physical, sustaining, hard runner, 586 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 8: and when you compare him and combine him with Swift, 587 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 8: you've got a really nice run game. 588 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 5: And the Old Lion is playing. 589 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 8: Really, really well, and what he does really well, it's 590 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 8: almost the old Joe Gibbs philosophy colin of using motion 591 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 8: to change run support. Most people don't think of motion 592 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 8: as being a factor in the run game. But Joe 593 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 8: Gibbs did it, you know, years and years ago with 594 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 8: the Redskins, where you use motion and it dictates run 595 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 8: support and changes it in your favor. And that's one 596 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 8: thing that Ben Jonson has such a good feel for. 597 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: Okay, listen, I like Jordan Love. I had my questions 598 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: out of Utah State, but I said, if I didn't 599 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: say his name and I just said, there's a tall 600 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: kid that's athletic, with a big arm, takes risks and 601 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: doesn't throw a lot of picks, everybody would go, oh, 602 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: that's great. I think he's really talented. I think sometimes 603 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: there's just it looks to me like a franchise quarterback. 604 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: Good arm, moves, Yeah, nice kid, coachable, can ad lib 605 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: can be on script or off. What is your favorite 606 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: quality on film of the Packers young quarterback. 607 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 8: I would say there's a comfort with which he plays, 608 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 8: which is not an next to no point, but there's 609 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 8: a comfort with which he plays. And I would say 610 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 8: that what has really stood out this year and he's 611 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 8: gotten better at his ball placement because they are phenomenal 612 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 8: on third down, Colin, they're the best third down conversion 613 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 8: offense in the league, and on third and seven plus, 614 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 8: which for most teams is pretty much it's time to punt. 615 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 8: They convert more than forty three percent on third and 616 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 8: seven plus. That is remarkable, It's almost unheard of. But 617 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 8: his ball location has gotten more consistent, more precise year 618 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 8: after year, and you combine that with an aggressive mindset, 619 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 8: which I believe is essential for a quarterback in this league. 620 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 8: He's an aggressive mindset thrower, and now that he's more 621 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 8: accurate and more precise with his ball location, he wins. 622 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 5: On third down. And but again, you. 623 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 8: Know, we've talked about coaching on the defensive side, coaching 624 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 8: on the offensive side. I think it's a really good 625 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 8: mix with Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur. We know Malaflor 626 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 8: likes to run the ball, but the other thing that 627 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 8: stands out is they do some really good things in 628 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 8: the red zone. You know, I'm not a believer in 629 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 8: the red zone. Actually, I heard Ben Johnson talk about this. 630 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 8: I'm not a believer in the red zone of just 631 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 8: throwing it up and hoping your receiver catches the ball. 632 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 8: I'm much more of a believer in schematics in the 633 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 8: red zone. And we saw that last week, and that's 634 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 8: actually going to be the play we show because I 635 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 8: think that that's so critical to be a will score 636 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 8: touchdowns in the red zone and not just relying on 637 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 8: guys going up and making a play, which is which 638 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 8: is a maybe yes. 639 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 5: Maybe no deal. 640 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 8: So this was last week against Detroit, and I actually 641 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 8: love this play in it it's really so simple. You know, 642 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 8: sometimes the really cool things are so simple when you 643 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 8: really look at them. 644 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 5: So here's love. He's in the gun. 645 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 8: Now what we're starting with here, we're going to start 646 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 8: with a two by two formation, meaning that there's two 647 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 8: receivers up top to the wide side of the field, 648 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 8: and there's two receivers to the boundary side of the formation. 649 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: Now what's going to happen. 650 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 8: Is the two key receivers here are Watson and Dobbs, 651 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 8: and we'll see that as we continue with the play. Now, 652 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 8: Dobbs will go in motion and the corner will follow. 653 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 8: Now you're playing man down here if you're a defense, 654 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 8: because there's not a lot of room. 655 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 5: You're not playing zone, so you're playing man. 656 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 8: So Dobbs is now stacked behind Watson and the corners 657 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 8: they switched their matchup because of the motion. So you know, 658 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 8: what you have now is the corner that was on 659 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 8: Dobbs is now matched to Watson and Dobbs is on 660 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 8: the outside. 661 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 5: So this is really some very simple but very cool stuff. 662 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 8: What you're going to see is Watson is going to 663 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 8: hangle his stem to the outside. Okay, so they're going 664 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 8: to do what we call a switch release. Watson's going 665 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 8: to angle his stem outside and Dobbs is going to 666 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 8: then angle his stem inside. But because the corners now 667 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 8: have to switch due to this switch release concept, what 668 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 8: happens is Dobbs ends up running now his out quick 669 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 8: outcut against a corner that's inside of him because of 670 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 8: everything they've done, the motion, the stack, the switch release. 671 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 8: So what happens is is he just has the leverage 672 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 8: on him so when he breaks to the outside, Colin, 673 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 8: it becomes pitching catch. It's just really beautiful stuff. It 674 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 8: looks so easy, but you know, this is just so 675 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 8: beautiful when you watch it, and to me, this is 676 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 8: what red zone, particularly low red zone offense meaning ten 677 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 8: yards in has to be about, not just throwing it 678 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 8: up to receivers, but this packer offense. 679 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 5: And you're right about Jordan Love. 680 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 8: He definitely looks like a franchise quarterback. He's so physically talented. Mentally, 681 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 8: he's getting better and better with each each week. 682 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff. Greg Cosel forty six years NFL Films. 683 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 5: Thanks Greg, Thanks Colin, really appreciate it. 684 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: What's interesting to me, folks about Jordan Love And you 685 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: see this a lot. So he had a really good 686 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: year in college the year before he came out, and 687 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: then the year he came out, it wasn't as good 688 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: a year because he lost coaches and a lot of 689 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: people bailed on him. But you had to go back 690 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: and look at the film from the previous year, and 691 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: it does show that we all know this bo Nix 692 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: is benefiting from Sean Payton and Caleb Williams is benefiting 693 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: from Ben Johnson. Well, that works in college as well. 694 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, when Sark was a college coordinator, but he 695 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: was good enough to be a coach at Texas, it 696 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: was nice having Lane Kiffen and Sark as coordinators when 697 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: they're both excellent head coaches. So this coaching stuff matters 698 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: everybody in Green Bay. I hope you understand. You do 699 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: understand that Green Bay's a weller in operation. But I 700 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: don't get the critics of Jordan Love. I think he's 701 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: an incredibly special player, arm movement, size, and again, this matters. 702 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: Every time you put a mic in front of him, 703 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: says the right thing. I mean again, he never blows 704 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: up a locker room. There's no passive aggressive. You can 705 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: tell he cares about stuff beyond himself. It just again 706 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: that stuff matters for quarterback. I don't care about other positions. 707 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: Every time you talk to Jordan Love. And by the way, 708 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Caleb's gotten very good at this. Caleb Williams, Chicago's media 709 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: is very aggressive. Jalen Hurts, hyper aggressive Philly media. Jalen 710 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: Hurts brings the heat down. Caleb Williams, Jordan Love. It's 711 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: so much a part of this is keep the thing 712 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: the thing, don't inflame situations. But Jordan is really special.