WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Come Back Later

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<v Speaker 1>Second date up to date. We have a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Arlow on the phone for a second date update and Arlow,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your email and I read all about your date,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the most interesting part to me was

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<v Speaker 1>that the girl got to your place early and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't let her in. That's true. I'm curious to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But first tell me what's the girl's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Dina Dinah? Okay, Arlow, before we get too far into this,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know why she's not calling you back? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are you totally mystified? Um? I think there could be

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<v Speaker 1>a few things, Okay, okay, So we'll start at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>When she arrived early for the date. How early is early? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>She was at least fifteen minutes early. Okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>not too early, bro, I thought you're talking about an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the date hanging out at your house or was

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<v Speaker 1>she just meeting you there and you guys were going

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere exactly? We were meeting there and then going out. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but you would still plan for her to be come

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<v Speaker 1>up to your apartment or whatever? Right? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always run late, so I hate people that are early.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you say would you tell her when

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<v Speaker 1>she got there? I just said it, like, hey, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not ready. Do you mind coming back in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, coming back, Why don't you just say I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right down, give me five. Honestly, I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>thinking it, just it just came out of my mouth. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so you shut the door on her? No thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have an appointment? Yeah? Wait? What did she

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<v Speaker 1>say to this? To me, it sounded kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't know what to say, but she'd stay. Okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an interesting strategy. Keep the girl waiting before

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<v Speaker 1>the date even starts. I don't make her in a

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<v Speaker 1>really good mood. Yeah, it's not even waiting but sending

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<v Speaker 1>her home. So was it like fifteen minutes later you

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<v Speaker 1>go then started your date or what? Yeah? She came

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<v Speaker 1>back actually probably like a half hour later, which was

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Honestly, that was fine with me because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need a little bit more time. Can I just say,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you doing? Just had like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do before I got act. Don't ask

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<v Speaker 1>a man what he was doing? Oh sorry, Jack, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, We have no idea. Why are you asking

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<v Speaker 1>all these questions just let us be. So what did

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<v Speaker 1>you end up doing for the actual date? Harlow? So

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<v Speaker 1>we had talked before about how much we like breakfast food,

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew a little cafe down the street that

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<v Speaker 1>served breakfast. Okay, win, that's a great date idea. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're walking and she's quiet, we're not talking. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure if obviously she could have been upset for

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<v Speaker 1>the weight, or if she was just angry. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is what you would say. They're not starting things off

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<v Speaker 1>very well. Did pancakes and bacon fix anything? Well? It

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<v Speaker 1>was still like awkwardly quiet. So I tried to break

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<v Speaker 1>the ice by talking about bad dates, like a history

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Like, I see, he's trying to make her

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<v Speaker 1>remember other worst dates than this one so that this

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<v Speaker 1>one comes off looking good. You know, I actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's bad, Like self deprecating humor could be really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right, it's all about delivery. So he's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>at least I didn't stab you like some other dates. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I made the last date wait too. Wow, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about delivery. So yeah, this sounds really fun. Did

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<v Speaker 1>she laugh? Yeah, she laughed, at my story? What was

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<v Speaker 1>your story? This one time I went out with this

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<v Speaker 1>girl and when I met up with her, she was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I just want you to know that my

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<v Speaker 1>dad's in the mafia, so you better treat me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, God. Do you think she was telling the

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<v Speaker 1>truth or was she just trying to scare you into

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<v Speaker 1>a good date. Well, the next day there was a

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<v Speaker 1>horse's head in my bad. Okay, you're fun right, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's good too, because like you're admitting, like I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that things are not going the way I want them to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a good thing to do. Yeah, all a

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<v Speaker 1>woman wants us to admit that you're wrong sometimes. What

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<v Speaker 1>was her story? She said something about like a date

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<v Speaker 1>that she had with this guy where they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a concert, and when she got there,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy he had a girlfriend that he invited, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I guess the guy to make matters worse, he

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<v Speaker 1>asked the two of them to kick Yeah, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the guy from the room. Yeah, I thought you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to be talking about bad days dates. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're getting things back on track on this date. Maybe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was good to kind of relate. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know obviously first dates are usually awkward. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got to talking, but then the food came

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<v Speaker 1>out and it was kind of bad timing because the

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<v Speaker 1>food is so good that you just you didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk all you want to do eat scar Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus she waited a really long time because of you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she started. Okay, so how did this date end? So

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<v Speaker 1>we finished eating and after the check came out and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, I asked her if she wanted to just

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<v Speaker 1>come back in my place? Oh, like right then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like even longer, just to keep the date going, keep

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<v Speaker 1>the awkward silence alive. Hey, do you want to come

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<v Speaker 1>back to my house to just not talk? Yeah? Say,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really funny, he's charming. Well, she actually said she

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<v Speaker 1>already had plans. Yeah, who makes plans after a date? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, he was thirty minutes later than it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be starting, so after two hours together.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you always make plans after a date. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>one you can cut it off when it's like leave

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<v Speaker 1>them wanting more type situation, or if it's bad, you

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<v Speaker 1>have an excuse to get out totally. I always leave

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<v Speaker 1>the night open because I know I'm getting I know

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<v Speaker 1>to the woman. Yeah actually, yeah, makes sense though. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so she turns you down for that? Did you end

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<v Speaker 1>it with a kiss, a hug, anything, just like a

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<v Speaker 1>normal friendly hug? Okay? Okay, well that's good. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>At least you didn't completely normally. That wouldn't be great

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. But you guys came

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to get there, all right. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>play a song. We are a little bit early here,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna have to wait for minutes. But then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and we'll call Dina and try and

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<v Speaker 1>get your second date update. Okay, perfect, all right? Hold on, hey, Harlow. Yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I said i'd come back after the song

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<v Speaker 1>to do your second date update, but I'm not quite

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<v Speaker 1>ready yet. Oh all right, I need a little extra time.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you just hold please? Okay, Jeffrey, we don't we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time for this. Okay, I know it's funny, busy, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just hold on, God justly like looking at I just

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<v Speaker 1>got a prep Just give me a second. You're all right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're back for your second date update. Arlow. Was I

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<v Speaker 1>worth the wait? I could totally relate to not being ready.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only man in the room that understands what

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey just went through. Just to recap, Arlow started his

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<v Speaker 1>date on the wrong foot, we think, because the girl

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<v Speaker 1>showed up to his place fifteen minutes early and he

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<v Speaker 1>told her come back later. He was busy, so thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes went by, and then the girl came back. They

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<v Speaker 1>ended up having some awkward silence on the walk to

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant, talked about bad dates from their past, and

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<v Speaker 1>then had a pretty quiet meal too. So he's not

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<v Speaker 1>getting a call back, and we're going to try and

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<v Speaker 1>help him figure out why. Yeah, that would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure it out myself. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think this one boils down to a bad

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<v Speaker 1>first impression. Maybe she got home, she started thinking out

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<v Speaker 1>of the date, and like that, stuff just kept popping

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<v Speaker 1>in her mind. I also think, if we can get

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<v Speaker 1>you a second date, Arlo, the best advice I could

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<v Speaker 1>give you would be to be fifteen minutes late to

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<v Speaker 1>even out this whole conundrum. Up early because she was early. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>please do not follow Jose's math, you know, just show

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<v Speaker 1>up on time. Okay, there we go. Let's move forward,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Are you ready to do this? Harlow? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call Dina right now and get your second

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<v Speaker 1>date update. Actually, you know what, can just wait one

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<v Speaker 1>more second? Hold? Please? Oh my god, sorry I had

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<v Speaker 1>to readjust there. Okay, here we go, let's do your

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<v Speaker 1>second date update. Hello. Hi, I'm looking for Dina. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Tina. Hey Dina. My name is Jeffrey from the

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<v Speaker 1>radio show Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing. Um, I'm okay, okay, it's good. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good start, Dina. Hi, we're hoping you have

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<v Speaker 1>a second to chat with us a little bit. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it for. It's for a segment that we

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<v Speaker 1>do on our show called a second date Update. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where if you go out with someone and afterwards, if

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<v Speaker 1>that person isn't calling you back, you can email us

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll reach out to them for you to try

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<v Speaker 1>and help you figure out the reason why. Oh great, Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked your response. It's more fun than it sounds,

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<v Speaker 1>I promised, Dna. I mean, and it does mean that

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<v Speaker 1>someone really liked you, so that's always a positive. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going the extra mile to try to see you again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, Fine, that's fine. Okay, Well, can I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit about the guy who emailed us.

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Arlow? Oh okay, you not oh Rlow. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a name. There were you hoping for somebody else? I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping not to have to talk about Harlow? Okay, okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Harlow emailed us in told us all about the day

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys spent together, and he had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of nice things to say about you. And now he's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit confused about why you're not reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>to him. I mean, I'm surprised he's confused. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of obvious. I mean, he told us that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he didn't make the best first impression, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was some awkward silence and stuff in the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the date. Is that all he said? No, he told

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<v Speaker 1>us that you showed up fifteen minutes early, and he

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<v Speaker 1>asked you if you could come back a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he tell you why? He said he was busy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that you came back because that is such

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<v Speaker 1>a weird request. Instead of just saying, hey, can you

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<v Speaker 1>wait five minutes, I'll be down in a minute. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If he had said that, it probably would have been better,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just made it so weird. How So I

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<v Speaker 1>got there early and I came back with a half

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<v Speaker 1>hour later, and when we actually met up and started talking,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, sorry about that. I just had

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<v Speaker 1>to do what guys do. What does that mean? I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it doesn't mean what I'm thinking it means video games.

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<v Speaker 1>My mind was either pooping, yeah, or something else in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. Oh, a different type of preparation before I date.

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you're saying. Yeah, And so I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna hope it was pooping. Yeah, It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good time when that's your best option exactly. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was nervous and like foot and mouth type of moment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe, But my immediate reaction I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like pooping and he was like, oh no, not that

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<v Speaker 1>he did. He say it in that same tone, that

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<v Speaker 1>one yeah, yeahand that tone is so creepy. Yeah it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I mean, where do you even go from there?

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<v Speaker 1>At a conversation, like you literally have just met someone.

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<v Speaker 1>In the first five minutes, you're finding out a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, that's why the conversation was so awkward

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<v Speaker 1>and there was so much silence, Like, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to say after that. It's a hard jumping off

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<v Speaker 1>point for the conversation. What do you turn it too?

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<v Speaker 1>So you like bacon for dinner? Yeah? Wow? So are

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<v Speaker 1>you saying? From that moment on it just ruined it

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<v Speaker 1>for you? And the day never got better. Um. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end, it got a little better. We started having

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<v Speaker 1>fun talking about a bad date path Okay, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I went out what this guy named Arlo one? Yeah awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I mean at least that's a good sign and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe things were getting back on track. Um. Yeah, But

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<v Speaker 1>then it came time to pay the bill and he

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<v Speaker 1>asked if I wanted to go back to his place,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think personally it's just kind of creepy on

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<v Speaker 1>a first date period, but it's the way he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, So I think I'm recovered from earlier. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to my place? No anything? But

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<v Speaker 1>what a charmer? Oh no, wonder you said no? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I didn't even say no. I just knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was never going to see him again. Yeah don't. I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why he called us if it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he was just looking for a hook up

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<v Speaker 1>that night, I don't know. I mean, look, Dina, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you'll never see him again, but you will have to

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<v Speaker 1>hear him again because I need to tell you. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been on the other line listening and he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you. He heard this. Yeah, he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. This is a good lesson. Okay, Harlow, you there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here. I love What are you doing? Don't on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. I just mean, like Harlo, explain yourself, is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're trying to say. So no one in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>So you really did you actually told her or at

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<v Speaker 1>least hinted at her what you were doing. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>she asked. You know, I wasn't gonna lie to her.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't have to lie. You just don't

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<v Speaker 1>bring up that specific activity. Could have just said I

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<v Speaker 1>was busy. I was though, I was really busy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we get it, man, Dina. Are you even still there? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, and he's not making it better. So, I mean, Harlow,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to try saying something to Dina

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<v Speaker 1>to get her to see you're not a horrible person. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, you're not some weirdo

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<v Speaker 1>that that's telling girls what you're doing all the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, listen, I'm a normal guy that does normal

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<v Speaker 1>kind things and I do normal guy things often. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>stop stop saying normal guy things a million times. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also a normal guy bro, just so you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I appreciate that. I know too much. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the beginning of the day, it's how you

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<v Speaker 1>ended it too, telling her you recovered, Like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>In my defense, she already knew what I did before

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<v Speaker 1>I already told her. Yeah. Yeah, so she's probably wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm ready to go, and yeah I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Dina, were you wondering that? Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>thought you had is that what was going through your

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<v Speaker 1>mind wasn't what was on my mind at all? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>What was on your mind, Dina? Not that? Yeah? Shocking that.

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<v Speaker 1>It really feels like you guys are all piling on

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<v Speaker 1>me right now, and it doesn't feel fair at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is what guys do. It's normal. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I was just answering her question and trying to just

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<v Speaker 1>be cool. We're not saying we're not saying the action

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't normal. Okay, we're saying that the discussion was too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is and now I have images of things

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<v Speaker 1>piling on top of each other. This is not good.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to end this stuff. Yeah, and let me

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<v Speaker 1>just ask Dina, would you like to go out on

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<v Speaker 1>another date with Arlo? Will pay for it? Yes? No? Yeah, Arla, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you just go hang up, go do what guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you feel a little bit better think about us. No,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't, no, no, please don't. Brooke and Jeffrey in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning