Speaker 1: Second date up to date. We have a guy named
Speaker 1: Arlow on the phone for a second date update and Arlow,
Speaker 1: I saw your email and I read all about your date,
Speaker 1: and I think the most interesting part to me was
Speaker 1: that the girl got to your place early and you
Speaker 1: didn't let her in. That's true. I'm curious to hear
Speaker 1: about that. But first tell me what's the girl's name?
Speaker 1: Dina Dinah? Okay, Arlow, before we get too far into this,
Speaker 1: do you know why she's not calling you back? Or
Speaker 1: are you totally mystified? Um? I think there could be
Speaker 1: a few things, Okay, okay, So we'll start at the beginning.
Speaker 1: When she arrived early for the date. How early is early? Yeah?
Speaker 1: She was at least fifteen minutes early. Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: not too early, bro, I thought you're talking about an hour.
Speaker 1: Was the date hanging out at your house or was
Speaker 1: she just meeting you there and you guys were going
Speaker 1: somewhere exactly? We were meeting there and then going out. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but you would still plan for her to be come
Speaker 1: up to your apartment or whatever? Right? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I always run late, so I hate people that are early.
Speaker 1: So what did you say would you tell her when
Speaker 1: she got there? I just said it, like, hey, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready. Do you mind coming back in a
Speaker 1: little bit, coming back, Why don't you just say I'll
Speaker 1: be right down, give me five. Honestly, I wasn't really
Speaker 1: thinking it, just it just came out of my mouth. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is so you shut the door on her? No thanks?
Speaker 1: Do you have an appointment? Yeah? Wait? What did she
Speaker 1: say to this? To me, it sounded kind of like
Speaker 1: she didn't know what to say, but she'd stay. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is an interesting strategy. Keep the girl waiting before
Speaker 1: the date even starts. I don't make her in a
Speaker 1: really good mood. Yeah, it's not even waiting but sending
Speaker 1: her home. So was it like fifteen minutes later you
Speaker 1: go then started your date or what? Yeah? She came
Speaker 1: back actually probably like a half hour later, which was
Speaker 1: you know. Honestly, that was fine with me because I
Speaker 1: didn't need a little bit more time. Can I just say,
Speaker 1: what were you doing? Just had like a bunch of
Speaker 1: I had to do before I got act. Don't ask
Speaker 1: a man what he was doing? Oh sorry, Jack, we
Speaker 1: don't know, We have no idea. Why are you asking
Speaker 1: all these questions just let us be. So what did
Speaker 1: you end up doing for the actual date? Harlow? So
Speaker 1: we had talked before about how much we like breakfast food,
Speaker 1: and I knew a little cafe down the street that
Speaker 1: served breakfast. Okay, win, that's a great date idea. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we're walking and she's quiet, we're not talking. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if obviously she could have been upset for
Speaker 1: the weight, or if she was just angry. I guess
Speaker 1: is what you would say. They're not starting things off
Speaker 1: very well. Did pancakes and bacon fix anything? Well? It
Speaker 1: was still like awkwardly quiet. So I tried to break
Speaker 1: the ice by talking about bad dates, like a history
Speaker 1: of that. Like, I see, he's trying to make her
Speaker 1: remember other worst dates than this one so that this
Speaker 1: one comes off looking good. You know, I actually don't
Speaker 1: think it's bad, Like self deprecating humor could be really funny.
Speaker 1: It's right, it's all about delivery. So he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: at least I didn't stab you like some other dates. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I made the last date wait too. Wow, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all about delivery. So yeah, this sounds really fun. Did
Speaker 1: she laugh? Yeah, she laughed, at my story? What was
Speaker 1: your story? This one time I went out with this
Speaker 1: girl and when I met up with her, she was
Speaker 1: just like, I just want you to know that my
Speaker 1: dad's in the mafia, so you better treat me right now.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, God. Do you think she was telling the
Speaker 1: truth or was she just trying to scare you into
Speaker 1: a good date. Well, the next day there was a
Speaker 1: horse's head in my bad. Okay, you're fun right, And
Speaker 1: it's good too, because like you're admitting, like I understand
Speaker 1: that things are not going the way I want them to, like,
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing to do. Yeah, all a
Speaker 1: woman wants us to admit that you're wrong sometimes. What
Speaker 1: was her story? She said something about like a date
Speaker 1: that she had with this guy where they were going
Speaker 1: to go to a concert, and when she got there,
Speaker 1: the guy he had a girlfriend that he invited, and
Speaker 1: then I guess the guy to make matters worse, he
Speaker 1: asked the two of them to kick Yeah, look at
Speaker 1: the guy from the room. Yeah, I thought you guys
Speaker 1: were supposed to be talking about bad days dates. It
Speaker 1: sounds like you're getting things back on track on this date. Maybe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it was good to kind of relate. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I know obviously first dates are usually awkward. Anyways,
Speaker 1: and we got to talking, but then the food came
Speaker 1: out and it was kind of bad timing because the
Speaker 1: food is so good that you just you didn't want
Speaker 1: to talk all you want to do eat scar Yeah.
Speaker 1: Plus she waited a really long time because of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she started. Okay, so how did this date end? So
Speaker 1: we finished eating and after the check came out and
Speaker 1: all that, I asked her if she wanted to just
Speaker 1: come back in my place? Oh, like right then, yeah,
Speaker 1: like even longer, just to keep the date going, keep
Speaker 1: the awkward silence alive. Hey, do you want to come
Speaker 1: back to my house to just not talk? Yeah? Say,
Speaker 1: that's really funny, he's charming. Well, she actually said she
Speaker 1: already had plans. Yeah, who makes plans after a date? Well,
Speaker 1: to be fair, he was thirty minutes later than it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be starting, so after two hours together.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you always make plans after a date. That way,
Speaker 1: one you can cut it off when it's like leave
Speaker 1: them wanting more type situation, or if it's bad, you
Speaker 1: have an excuse to get out totally. I always leave
Speaker 1: the night open because I know I'm getting I know
Speaker 1: to the woman. Yeah actually, yeah, makes sense though. All right,
Speaker 1: so she turns you down for that? Did you end
Speaker 1: it with a kiss, a hug, anything, just like a
Speaker 1: normal friendly hug? Okay? Okay, well that's good. That's okay.
Speaker 1: At least you didn't completely normally. That wouldn't be great
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. But you guys came
Speaker 1: a long way to get there, all right. So let's
Speaker 1: play a song. We are a little bit early here,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to wait for minutes. But then
Speaker 1: we'll come back and we'll call Dina and try and
Speaker 1: get your second date update. Okay, perfect, all right? Hold on, hey, Harlow. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I know I said i'd come back after the song
Speaker 1: to do your second date update, but I'm not quite
Speaker 1: ready yet. Oh all right, I need a little extra time.
Speaker 1: Can you just hold please? Okay, Jeffrey, we don't we
Speaker 1: don't have time for this. Okay, I know it's funny, busy, Okay,
Speaker 1: just hold on, God justly like looking at I just
Speaker 1: got a prep Just give me a second. You're all right,
Speaker 1: We're back for your second date update. Arlow. Was I
Speaker 1: worth the wait? I could totally relate to not being ready.
Speaker 1: So the only man in the room that understands what
Speaker 1: Jeffrey just went through. Just to recap, Arlow started his
Speaker 1: date on the wrong foot, we think, because the girl
Speaker 1: showed up to his place fifteen minutes early and he
Speaker 1: told her come back later. He was busy, so thirty
Speaker 1: minutes went by, and then the girl came back. They
Speaker 1: ended up having some awkward silence on the walk to
Speaker 1: the restaurant, talked about bad dates from their past, and
Speaker 1: then had a pretty quiet meal too. So he's not
Speaker 1: getting a call back, and we're going to try and
Speaker 1: help him figure out why. Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out myself. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think this one boils down to a bad
Speaker 1: first impression. Maybe she got home, she started thinking out
Speaker 1: of the date, and like that, stuff just kept popping
Speaker 1: in her mind. I also think, if we can get
Speaker 1: you a second date, Arlo, the best advice I could
Speaker 1: give you would be to be fifteen minutes late to
Speaker 1: even out this whole conundrum. Up early because she was early. Okay,
Speaker 1: please do not follow Jose's math, you know, just show
Speaker 1: up on time. Okay, there we go. Let's move forward,
Speaker 1: all right? Are you ready to do this? Harlow? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call Dina right now and get your second
Speaker 1: date update. Actually, you know what, can just wait one
Speaker 1: more second? Hold? Please? Oh my god, sorry I had
Speaker 1: to readjust there. Okay, here we go, let's do your
Speaker 1: second date update. Hello. Hi, I'm looking for Dina. This
Speaker 1: is Tina. Hey Dina. My name is Jeffrey from the
Speaker 1: radio show Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. How are
Speaker 1: you doing. Um, I'm okay, okay, it's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good start, Dina. Hi, we're hoping you have
Speaker 1: a second to chat with us a little bit. Sorry,
Speaker 1: what is it for. It's for a segment that we
Speaker 1: do on our show called a second date Update. That's
Speaker 1: where if you go out with someone and afterwards, if
Speaker 1: that person isn't calling you back, you can email us
Speaker 1: and we'll reach out to them for you to try
Speaker 1: and help you figure out the reason why. Oh great, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I really liked your response. It's more fun than it sounds,
Speaker 1: I promised, Dna. I mean, and it does mean that
Speaker 1: someone really liked you, so that's always a positive. You know,
Speaker 1: they're going the extra mile to try to see you again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine, Fine, that's fine. Okay, Well, can I tell
Speaker 1: you a little bit about the guy who emailed us.
Speaker 1: His name's Arlow? Oh okay, you not oh Rlow. It's
Speaker 1: a name. There were you hoping for somebody else? I
Speaker 1: was hoping not to have to talk about Harlow? Okay, okay. Well,
Speaker 1: Harlow emailed us in told us all about the day
Speaker 1: that you guys spent together, and he had a lot
Speaker 1: of nice things to say about you. And now he's
Speaker 1: a little bit confused about why you're not reaching out
Speaker 1: to him. I mean, I'm surprised he's confused. I think
Speaker 1: it's kind of obvious. I mean, he told us that
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't make the best first impression, and there
Speaker 1: was some awkward silence and stuff in the beginning of
Speaker 1: the date. Is that all he said? No, he told
Speaker 1: us that you showed up fifteen minutes early, and he
Speaker 1: asked you if you could come back a little bit later.
Speaker 1: Did he tell you why? He said he was busy.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you came back because that is such
Speaker 1: a weird request. Instead of just saying, hey, can you
Speaker 1: wait five minutes, I'll be down in a minute. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If he had said that, it probably would have been better,
Speaker 1: but he just made it so weird. How So I
Speaker 1: got there early and I came back with a half
Speaker 1: hour later, and when we actually met up and started talking,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, sorry about that. I just had
Speaker 1: to do what guys do. What does that mean? I
Speaker 1: hope it doesn't mean what I'm thinking it means video games.
Speaker 1: My mind was either pooping, yeah, or something else in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. Oh, a different type of preparation before I date.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, And so I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hope it was pooping. Yeah, It's not
Speaker 1: a good time when that's your best option exactly. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was nervous and like foot and mouth type of moment, right,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, But my immediate reaction I was just
Speaker 1: like pooping and he was like, oh no, not that
Speaker 1: he did. He say it in that same tone, that
Speaker 1: one yeah, yeahand that tone is so creepy. Yeah it is,
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, where do you even go from there?
Speaker 1: At a conversation, like you literally have just met someone.
Speaker 1: In the first five minutes, you're finding out a lot.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's why the conversation was so awkward
Speaker 1: and there was so much silence, Like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to say after that. It's a hard jumping off
Speaker 1: point for the conversation. What do you turn it too?
Speaker 1: So you like bacon for dinner? Yeah? Wow? So are
Speaker 1: you saying? From that moment on it just ruined it
Speaker 1: for you? And the day never got better. Um. At
Speaker 1: the end, it got a little better. We started having
Speaker 1: fun talking about a bad date path Okay, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I went out what this guy named Arlo one? Yeah awkward.
Speaker 1: Well I mean at least that's a good sign and
Speaker 1: maybe things were getting back on track. Um. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: then it came time to pay the bill and he
Speaker 1: asked if I wanted to go back to his place,
Speaker 1: which I think personally it's just kind of creepy on
Speaker 1: a first date period, but it's the way he did it.
Speaker 1: He said, So I think I'm recovered from earlier. You
Speaker 1: want to go back to my place? No anything? But
Speaker 1: what a charmer? Oh no, wonder you said no? I
Speaker 1: mean I didn't even say no. I just knew I
Speaker 1: was never going to see him again. Yeah don't. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't even know why he called us if it
Speaker 1: sounds like he was just looking for a hook up
Speaker 1: that night, I don't know. I mean, look, Dina, maybe
Speaker 1: you'll never see him again, but you will have to
Speaker 1: hear him again because I need to tell you. He's
Speaker 1: been on the other line listening and he wants to
Speaker 1: talk to you. He heard this. Yeah, he needed to
Speaker 1: hear it. This is a good lesson. Okay, Harlow, you there,
Speaker 1: I'm here. I love What are you doing? Don't on
Speaker 1: the phone. I just mean, like Harlo, explain yourself, is
Speaker 1: what we're trying to say. So no one in the studio.
Speaker 1: So you really did you actually told her or at
Speaker 1: least hinted at her what you were doing. I mean
Speaker 1: she asked. You know, I wasn't gonna lie to her.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to lie. You just don't
Speaker 1: bring up that specific activity. Could have just said I
Speaker 1: was busy. I was though, I was really busy. Okay,
Speaker 1: we get it, man, Dina. Are you even still there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here, and he's not making it better. So, I mean, Harlow,
Speaker 1: I think you need to try saying something to Dina
Speaker 1: to get her to see you're not a horrible person. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you're not some weirdo
Speaker 1: that that's telling girls what you're doing all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, listen, I'm a normal guy that does normal
Speaker 1: kind things and I do normal guy things often. But okay,
Speaker 1: stop stop saying normal guy things a million times. I'm
Speaker 1: also a normal guy bro, just so you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that. I know too much. It's
Speaker 1: not just the beginning of the day, it's how you
Speaker 1: ended it too, telling her you recovered, Like, what is that?
Speaker 1: In my defense, she already knew what I did before
Speaker 1: I already told her. Yeah. Yeah, so she's probably wondering
Speaker 1: if I'm ready to go, and yeah I was. I
Speaker 1: don't know, Dina, were you wondering that? Is that the
Speaker 1: thought you had is that what was going through your
Speaker 1: mind wasn't what was on my mind at all? Oh?
Speaker 1: What was on your mind, Dina? Not that? Yeah? Shocking that.
Speaker 1: It really feels like you guys are all piling on
Speaker 1: me right now, and it doesn't feel fair at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what guys do. It's normal. It's
Speaker 1: I was just answering her question and trying to just
Speaker 1: be cool. We're not saying we're not saying the action
Speaker 1: wasn't normal. Okay, we're saying that the discussion was too much.
Speaker 1: Here it is and now I have images of things
Speaker 1: piling on top of each other. This is not good.
Speaker 1: We need to end this stuff. Yeah, and let me
Speaker 1: just ask Dina, would you like to go out on
Speaker 1: another date with Arlo? Will pay for it? Yes? No? Yeah, Arla, man,
Speaker 1: you just go hang up, go do what guys do.
Speaker 1: Maybe you feel a little bit better think about us. No,
Speaker 1: please don't, no, no, please don't. Brooke and Jeffrey in
Speaker 1: the morning