1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Joined down the line right now by the man who 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: engineer at all with the Buffalo Bills general manager, Brandon B. Brandon, 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: that looks like the very place where you were drafting 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: players Thursday Fridays or not Thursday, Friday and Saturday, right 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: same place. Yeah, I'm in the same seat. That's good. 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: I get We're gonna have to stop asking everybody where 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: they're at, because everybody's in the same spot all the time, 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: just like Murph and I. Murph has never left his 9 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: kitchen in a month. Brandon, You've been in your in 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: your base for three weeks. Jade Harris is in his 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: living and I have never I haven't left my office 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: in a month and a half. Is we have to 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be ceased to be at greeting these days, 14 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: like where are you at? What you're doing? Everybody knows 15 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're not doing anything, Brandon. You had 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: a busy few days though, right, I want to start 17 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: with this. There were really at least detectable There were 18 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: no technical followed ups for the Bills or anybody else 19 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It was a a success in that regard, right, Yeah, 20 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I think the league did a good job I really 21 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: do you know this is obviously there was a lot 22 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: of questions, and then going through the mock last Monday, 23 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: it took you know, there was one snag when it 24 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: started with one team, but I think quickly people got 25 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: got the hang of it. And you know, I think 26 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: the league, they deserve a lot of credit. You know, 27 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: I send a couple of them up there in email. 28 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: From our standpoint, it went off with no problems, no hiccups. Again, 29 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Dan Evans and did a really really good job. He 30 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: hung around all week and I tip trying to tell 31 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: him to go home, but he lives in the neighborhood, 32 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: so it wouldn't have been a far walk for him. Well, 33 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: I got to ask you this too, and you you, 34 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: as much as anybody is just like us. We all 35 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: watched the coverage on ESPN, the NFL Network and ABC 36 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: and the rest. What was there about this year's raft 37 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: that maybe you think, wow, we should do this again. 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Maybe what we found out that maybe some things work better, 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Maybe not on your end and the football end of it, 40 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: but certainly on the broadcast end. Was there anything about 41 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: this you like better than it's been in the past 42 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: because of the being forced to do it a new way. 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I liked it better. I mean 44 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: it was different and you got adjusted to it. But 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: in the end, you know, our guys do a pretty 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: good job in the d a from of understanding where 47 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: we're out on the clock and when if there's a 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: little bit of chatter Steve um as our pitch pick 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: as approaching. Usually they know kind of when we get 50 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: five six picks out, everybody just remained silent, be ready 51 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: on your on your p's and q's. You know here 52 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: I didn't. I wouldn't have that. The mute button, Uh 53 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: works well if the guys are chattering. Uh so the 54 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: mute button was probably my best friend on the three 55 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: zooms that I had going. Uh if I needed total silence, 56 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: But uh, I don't prefer this, like, you know, I 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: missed the bonding with the guys and gals and you know, 58 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: everybody to send in the room. Um, that was the 59 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: part you could do the best you could, like we're 60 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: doing here, but there's you know, that personal day to 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: day interaction you know, uh, the high five and when 62 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: you know when the when the board falls your way. Um, 63 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: you know that was kind of the down part of 64 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: this and even you know, last year after the draft, 65 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: we sat in the draft room and just uh, you know, 66 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: had a few drinks and just you know, you know, 67 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: kind of talk through our drafts, other people's draft, what 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: we were excited about and and things like that, and 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: so we you know, you miss that opportunity to share 70 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: that moment because the scouts, they've they've they put so 71 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: much time. They're the faceless guys behind the scenes here 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: all fall through the spring and they deserve recognition, and 73 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: unfortunately they had to do everything remotely. R on the 74 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: line with Brandon being the Bills general manager, recapping what 75 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: went on over the NFL Draft this past weekend. Brandon, 76 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't need names here, but were there occasions when 77 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: absent you know, the typical you know, thirty visits or 78 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: pro day evaluations or face to face contact with draft 79 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: prospects where there are occasions when you'd said, man, I'd 80 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: like this guy. I wish I knew more about them, 81 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: but I'm going to play it safe and go with 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: this guy on our board. I mean, did you ever 83 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: have to make that tough call? Not during the draft. 84 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, we went through those scenarios prior to the draft. 85 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: John just just kind of going through all right, you 86 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: know what, we just don't have enough to intel, or 87 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: we're not quite sure, uh you know, we'll dock him 88 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. Or there's still maybe a few things 89 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: medically that our docks were never able to get their 90 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: hands on them, So maybe we put them instead of 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: the guy being in the sixth round. Maybe we said, 92 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: you know what, we take a shot on him as 93 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: a priority free agent, but we're not gonna, you know, 94 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: take a draft pick on them. We just don't, you know, 95 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: it's inconclusive, you know what his medical situation is. So there, 96 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't that many players though like that. We you know, 97 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: we used the zoom and the FaceTime and the various 98 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: technology pieces that we could to really get to know 99 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: everybody was on our board. And I guess the question 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: is how much they ADCAF if it's a medical thing 101 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: that usually don't know about it, and it was something 102 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: like an ACL or something, did how I guess the 103 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: question is how catastrophic did the injury have to be 104 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: before you just said, you know what, we're taking this 105 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: guy from the third or fourth round and we're gonna 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna set him off our We're gonna take him 107 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: completely off our board. Certainly there's a place where if 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: the guy was really really good, maybe you'd still leave 109 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: him on your board, but take him down. I mean 110 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: how you know, I guess what kind of line do 111 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: you draw there? How bad does the injury have to be? 112 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: And how far can a guy dropped? Can he go 113 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: from the first round to no way, we're not taking him? Um, 114 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: he can if he if if you're really worried about 115 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: his long term like they're going, I don't know if 116 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: this guy's ever going to be the same player you 117 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: saw in college prior to the injury, if that came up. 118 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: We really didn't have that this year. I have had 119 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: that before. Um, but there were definitely cases where, you know, 120 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: one guy with an ACL wouldn't be back till October. 121 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: So that's a pop guy, you know, not a guy 122 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: we want to take quite as high. Um. You know, 123 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: so you know, docked him, you know, a couple of rounds, 124 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: and then there was a couple of shoulders, and um 125 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: that we said, you know what, UM, more like dropping 126 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: him around or so because didn't know if they'd quite 127 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: be ready for camp or and again our doctors not 128 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: been able to put their hands on him and test 129 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: your They're going straight off of images, which you know, 130 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: I did a great job of getting us the best information. 131 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: So it went anywhere from not adjusting a guy, a 132 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: couple of them, we adjusted, you know, half around, two around, 133 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: and then um, you know, one or two of the 134 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: acls more than a round. We're live with Brandon being 135 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: the Bills general manager, recapping this weekend's draft, Brandon, Um, 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: it surprised me. I thought for sure that after sitting 137 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: out Thursday, you'd be itching to do something Friday, and 138 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: yet you never made a trade the entire weekend. I 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: want to salute you. You showed me a different side 140 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: of Brandon b Well. I think, uh, it wasn't necessarily 141 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: a plan, you know. I really my plan is to 142 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: set the board and let it speak to me. And 143 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: and that's the god's honest truth. Um. Sometimes my lack 144 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: of patience, um, you know, forces me to go up. 145 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: And where I get aggressive and lose my patience is 146 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: if there is a need and I got a guy 147 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: on the board that's sitting out, and you know I 148 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: did think we you know, it was gonna be good 149 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: to address the running by somewhere in this, and so 150 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: that was the one player that you know, I was 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: most aggressively trying to get that. In the end, it 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: worked out nobody. And it's funny the teams right in 153 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: front of us had taken a running back or we 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: felt didn't have a need. There was like two or three. 155 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: It was more of those teams about four or five 156 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: or six seven in front of us that I said 157 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: they could take one and then. But the problem is 158 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: I was also worried that people would see, maybe we 159 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: need one and we trade right in front of us. 160 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: So I was willing to give, you know, a late pick, 161 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: even to move up two spots, just to confirm we 162 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: got Zach. But patients paid off and it worked out. 163 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: But honestly, there were guys that, you know, going into 164 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: day two that we talked about, you know, that we 165 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: had really high grades on that if they fell far enough, 166 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: we might would get aggressive. But they came off the 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: board pretty early, and we still had guys, you know, 168 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: very similar to AJ's grade, but just pass Rusher being 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: a premium position. Um, you know, we went with him. 170 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: I gotta ask it all. Thirty two teams come out 171 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: of the draft and they feel like they got better 172 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: because there's some great players coming out of college. How 173 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: difficult was it on day one to see all those 174 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: teams getting better and getting all these great players, you know, 175 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: like the Dolphins picking three guys. I mean, you feel 176 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: like you're just standing there and the whole league is 177 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: passing you by. How difficult was that? And didn't you 178 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: know how much solace did you take when you knew 179 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: you had traded your guy for Stefan Diggs? Yeah, you know, 180 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: two part question there. First off Thursday was was gut wrenching, awful, 181 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. It was painful to sit 182 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: here and watch it. To your point, watch some of 183 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: these teams with multiple first round picks obviously won in 184 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: our division with Miami and knowing that they're going to 185 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: have really some good chances to get better. M I 186 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: just had to keep reminding myself that Stefan was our 187 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: pick and kind of self help counsel through the first round. 188 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: But I was most happiest when the last pick was 189 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: in and could look at the board. You know, I 190 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: looked at it for over an hour and the names 191 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: didn't change. Just the scenarios that I was running through 192 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: my head and seeing look kind of looking back, what 193 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: teams selected in round one. Okay, they took a wide 194 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: receiver here, so they're probably not gonna take one here. 195 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: They took a pass rusher here, they're probably not gonna 196 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: take one here. Just trying to pick the board. But again, 197 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: we were so far down, being twenty two picks away 198 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: that you know, I honestly didn't. I thought AJ would 199 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: go pretty early day two, and he continued to fall, 200 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: and again I think he's gonna be a good fit 201 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: for US LIBE with Brandon being Hey Brandon. We talked 202 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: with Kirk Currents at Iowa Friday night. We talked with 203 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: Calvin Bell, who coached AJ on the defensive light that 204 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: I earlier today, and they both indicated that they think 205 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: there was something to the fact that AJ is an 206 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: Iowa guy that maybe led you to what if you 207 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: had any doubts about this combine workout, or maybe his 208 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: background and the fact that he'd dropped so far, but 209 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: maybe the fact that he was from Iowa, which is 210 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: known for we've seen NFL caliber alignment, maybe that helped 211 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: him out a little bit. Was that part of your calculation? Yeah, 212 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's a program, you know, Coach Farren's does 213 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: a great job. It's uh, it's run as much like 214 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: a pro program as you can find. There's uh, there's 215 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: no frills. Um, you know it's again, I think those 216 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: guys that come from Iowa, UM, you know, I think 217 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: they they come to Buffalo. That's not a big city atmosphere. 218 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: You're not talking about, you know, the University of Miami 219 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: or Southern cal or places like that. Um, you know, 220 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: it's it's farm land and corn and all those other things. 221 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think, you know, talking to 222 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: aj Uh coming here, he seemed pretty excited about what 223 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo is and what he knew about it and what 224 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: he had heard. So, UM, that program. Those guys are pros. 225 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: You know. You don't see those guys getting in trouble. 226 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: You know, usually those guys make the most of their ability. Um. 227 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: You look at Micah Hyde. You know he's an Iowa guy. 228 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: I believe he's a fifth round pick by Green Bay 229 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: back in the day. And look what he's turned himself into. 230 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stories of I with guys George Kettle. 231 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing out in San Francisco. You know, 232 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: the tight Ends that came out last year Hockinson and 233 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Noah Fant. Those two guys had good rookie years. So 234 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: there is a professionalism that I've noticed that that comes 235 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: out of there. Again, we didn't give him any extra 236 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: star points on the board. We grade him as he is. 237 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: But there is a relief knowing what type of program 238 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: he's been around, and think he will assimilate well here 239 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. And one of the other things you did 240 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: was you you brought in some wide receivers, one six 241 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: two the other sixty three. They're both over two hundred pounds. 242 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: They're both known for catching and having big catch radiuses. 243 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodgins. Yeah, added some size to 244 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver. People thought you might do that and tell 245 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: us a little bit or whatever you can about Gabriel 246 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Davis and Ike Hodgins. So we'll start with Davis. You know, 247 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: really high character, young man, good leader, smart nose ball. 248 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, he played a Central Florida so m a 249 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: smaller you know, a program, but still you know, a 250 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: very good program he played. It's weird that offense is 251 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: kind of what came from Baylor. Um why, I don't 252 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: know if you saw some of the highlights wide splits 253 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: out there, Um, not a full array of routes. That's 254 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: probably the biggest question mark we had in the scouting 255 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: community is what all routes is he going to be 256 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: comfortable with? Because he didn't run a variety there. You 257 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: know you see that in certain college offenses and doesn't 258 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: mean he can't do it. You know, our job is 259 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: is the greatest skill set and part of that we 260 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: look when we watched his combine workout, which was more 261 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: routes than than he's run. But um, in the end, 262 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: he's a powerful kid. You know, he's strong, good hands, UM, 263 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: a build up speed guy, and he's got he's got 264 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: a vertical when he gets up role and it's not 265 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: that instant gear. But when he gets up to speed, Uh, 266 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: you know he can't get by the defender and you 267 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: saw him make plays downfield. Um. I think probably the 268 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: biggest thing will work on when he gets here. He 269 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: was a guy we were going to work out Steve privately, um, 270 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: just to see all what route variations he would be 271 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: comfortable with, you know out of the gate, but obviously 272 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: they got canceled with the pandemic. UM, so we're excited 273 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: to get our hands on him. Once we can get 274 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: him up here and think he'll fit as a size guy. 275 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: And then and then Hodgens we had a nice grade 276 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: on him. And he's a big guy. You know what, 277 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: for a big guy, he drops his weight. I saw 278 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: him run probably as many double moves and and set 279 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: guys up, a really good feel of drawing that defender 280 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: in and then whether it was a slant and go, uh, 281 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: stop and go just some some variety of routes and 282 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: best hands in the draft in my mind, in the 283 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: sense of if you just took drop rate, Um, I 284 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: think he had the best drop rate of all receivers 285 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: in this draft. And and I think he you know, 286 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: back set up with with his play downfield. Both these 287 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: guys can go up and high point the ball, uh, 288 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: even when they're covered. So gives Josh. You know, sometimes 289 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: those big guys can you know, if they're going against 290 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: some small or defender, it'll give him Josh a chance 291 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: just to throw it up and let him go make 292 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: a play. Randon, when when last season ended you made 293 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: a point of talking about how your offense needed, your 294 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: team needed to score more touchdowns. Both those receivers Davis 295 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth round and Hodgens in the sixth round 296 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: found the end zone a lot like twenty twenty three times. 297 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: How much of a factor was that when you look 298 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: to draft them. Yeah, you know, um, you know, Sean 299 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: made the smurf comment last year about our guys, which 300 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: was funny, but there is some truth to it. I mean, 301 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: you know where we missed some size elements is down 302 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: in the red zone and and maybe some short yardage 303 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: plays where you know, it's hard to uncover because you 304 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: know speed, you can't continue to run out of the 305 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: back of the end zone. So speed only helps you 306 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: so much down there. And when the field condenses. So 307 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: to the point I was making before, it's nice to have, 308 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, the basketball play to throw it up above 309 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: the rim and let a guy go up and get it. 310 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: And I think that will We've got some vertical stretched 311 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: stuff we can do with stef On obviously, Um, John 312 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: brown Cole can work the middle of the field. Now 313 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: this adds, uh, you know some size guys that when 314 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: we get in these condensed field conditions. You know there 315 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: were some times, Murph were we settled for field goals 316 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: last year. Back to your comment about touchdowns that maybe 317 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: it would give Brian another you know, type of plate 318 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: for to call in the arsenal. We just didn't really 319 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: have the fade route. Um. You know, as part of 320 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: our repertoire talk, I got one more question to ask you, 321 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: But I want to hear about Zack Moss five to 322 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: nine running back. Give us, uh, give us a look 323 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: at you know what you have him graded out obviously, 324 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: and tell us about the run up to picking him 325 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: and also what you think of him. Yeah, so Zach 326 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: is a Miami, Florida type kid. So you don't see 327 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: a lot of guys go up from from South Florida 328 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: to Salt Lake City. That's not the but he went there, 329 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: and my understanding I went out there and uh this 330 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: fall and watch them practice and watch the tape out 331 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: there and just kind of all, um, you know, talk 332 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: to their people. You know, they had quite a few 333 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: guys um come out in this draft. A matter of fact, 334 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: that safety was drafted right in front of Zach by 335 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles. But um, you know, one of the things 336 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: they said about him was once he got adjusted to 337 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: the life of Salt Lake City versus there, he really 338 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: became a pro and and uh really was a guy. 339 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be a raw rod type leader. He's 340 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: just gonna show up every day and that's what he 341 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: does as a player. Steve Um, you know, he's he's 342 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: a pounder, he's a bruiser. Uh, he's gonna hit it 343 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: up in there. Uh. He can run those those wide 344 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: stretches one cut, but he's also can run that gap 345 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: scheme you know, you know, right off guard Ralph tackle 346 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: and so um. We look for him to be a 347 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: great compliment to motor You know, I think motors shiftiness 348 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: uh is a nice piece to have for us, but 349 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: I think you still need that physicality, the role that 350 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: Frank Gore played for us last year. I think he'll 351 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: do this. This guy's got good hands. Utah used him 352 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:02,359 Speaker 1: more in um kind of flares and screens, not downfield, 353 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, Devin will probably be our first 354 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: guy out on third down to catch the ball. But 355 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: Zach can do it. He understands pass protection. He's not 356 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: a throwaway in there. In the past game our guests 357 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: is Brandon being the Bill's general manager. Jake from quarterback 358 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Georgia fifth round pick Brandon. I guess it's a two 359 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: part question. What kind of a what kind of a 360 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: role do you see him playing in his first year 361 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: and then maybe down the line. I mean, there will 362 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: be some development, I think, but he play a different 363 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: role a couple of years from now than he will 364 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: this year. You know, I don't know. Um. You know, 365 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: the later you go in the draft, it's about adding competition, depth, 366 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: and competition, and that that's the goal. As you get 367 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: down here. Rarely are you gonna find starters out of 368 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: the gate down here. It's nice when you do. But 369 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, first off, we didn't set out to draft 370 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I've said that a couple of times. But 371 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: you set your board and you honor your board. And 372 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: when a guy's sticking out like that, quarterback is the 373 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: premium position there is in all sports, and definitely in football. 374 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: And so when you got a guy with a good grade, 375 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: unless you just don't have a spot for him, uh, 376 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, you take a shot on him. And so 377 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: that's what this is. And here's what I know about 378 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: um Jake. He's very smart. He's a winner. If I 379 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: was gonna put one word by him, he's a winner. 380 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 1: He came in, uh Heason, you know, who ended up 381 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: transferred to Washington and he came in there and beat 382 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: him out and won that job. And he was a 383 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: big time recruit. And then they go win the national 384 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: championship and uh then Justin Fields, who will come out 385 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: next year, who's now transferred to Ohio State, he held 386 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: him off. I mean, uh, this guy's just he's a leader, 387 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: he's a winner, he's very smart. Um, he is a 388 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: coach on the field type, very cerebral. When I was 389 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: at Georgia this fall as well, Uh, they just they 390 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: raved about this guy's work ethic, that he gets his 391 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: school work done. But U once you know, he's not 392 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: there to you know, trying to think about his career. 393 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: He's thinking about ball, and they're like, he's gonna play 394 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: until he can't play. And this guy's probably gonna be 395 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: a coach someday. That's just how he's wired. And they're like, 396 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: it's nothing to see him walk out of these football 397 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: offices at eleven twelve at night. Uh. He just he 398 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: loves ball. And so Murph, he'll come in here and 399 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: he'll compete with Davis Webb and Barkley m but he'll 400 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: have a challenge on his hands with this offseason, you know, 401 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: as far as how much he's gonna be able to 402 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: learn and do that. If you want to knock him. 403 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: You know, I gave you all the positives if you 404 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: want to knock him. Uh, you know, he's not as tall, 405 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, as Josh, you know, things like that. He 406 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: doesn't he's not six five guys, you know, just under 407 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: six two, and he doesn't have a howitzer arm or 408 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: anything like that. He'll have to prove that that he 409 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: can play in these elements. But um, he'll be up 410 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: for the task. I have no doubt, and we'll just 411 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: see where it goes. It's it's depth in competition, Murph. 412 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: That's all it is. Give us one thing about your 413 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: boy at t Bass, Tyler Bass, the kick her Well, 414 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: he's U good old South Carolina boy that's down near 415 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: my roots. So we give him a star for that. 416 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: But now you know what I first. You know, obviously 417 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: i'd heard about him from the Scouts, uh you know 418 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: in December when they were kind of going through him. 419 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: I didn't I never saw him play live at Georgia 420 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: Southern anything like that. But uh, I knew he was 421 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: getting the invite with some of the other good kickers 422 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl, and so I stayed that whole 423 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: week and watched him and and one of the days 424 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: we went indoors, they were really or that at South Alabama. 425 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: They kind of have that covered practice facility, and so 426 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I was there and they were backing him up and 427 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: kicking this thing. And he was you know, you know, 428 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: hitting some sixty plus yard with with room to spare 429 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: field goals down there. And so you saw his legs 430 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: drank kickoffs. He was booming him out of the end zone. Um. 431 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: And so we know how important the weather and the 432 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: wind and the elements are here in Buffalo, uh, to 433 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: have a powerful leg. So it's one of those things, 434 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: same as Barkley. You know, this is competition, uh, you 435 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: know for Stephen. But we were to sign a kick 436 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: if we didn't draft this guy. There were several that 437 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: we had targeted that we would try and sign after 438 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: the draft to come in and compete. Uh. You know, 439 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: we already have a punter on the roster to compete 440 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: with Bojo. And so it's somewhere either in the draft 441 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: or after the draft, we were going to add competition. 442 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: You'd like to go with two kickers like we had 443 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: Chase McLaughlin last year, who who really did a great 444 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: job and got some opportunities in the league. And that's 445 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: what this is. You know. I told Tyler when we 446 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: drafted him, like you're coming in, You're going against a 447 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: veteran and Stephen House got a proven veteran who hit 448 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: some big kicks for us and has in Seattle and 449 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: and nothing will be given to You'll have to earn 450 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: it if you win the job. Bran, then I know 451 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: there was concerned before Saturday about the post draft signing 452 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: of rookie free agents. How did that go? Was it 453 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: as crazy as you anticipated to make? You know? It 454 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: went better than I thought. To be honest with you, 455 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't unknown. Joe Shane and Terrence Gray and Dan 456 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: Morgan did a great job. And a gentleman by the 457 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: name of Luis Guilimo, who is our analytics guy. He 458 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: did a great job of in our scouting app of 459 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: developing something for us that allowed it's a live screen. 460 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: Some of the some things we have at the combine 461 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: when guys put in like forty times guys could enter 462 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: information and give me a three color prong where they 463 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: were in the negotiation talking to this player, confirmed with 464 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: this player. So I'm seeing them change on my board 465 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: have offered eight thousand dollars signing bonus. Right now, it's 466 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: down to us in Cleveland, US in Tennessee or three teams. 467 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: Agent gonna call us back. So they were able to 468 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: kind of color code at where they were and it's 469 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: it's updating. And then we had the zoom going, so 470 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: sometimes I was checking back, and so we had Brian 471 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: Gaine kind of oversee what the offense was doing, in 472 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: Terrence overseeing the defense. Kind of the moderators, and sometimes 473 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: they might have to put in the information because the player, 474 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the scout or coach was going to another player in 475 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: the process. But it was really well thought out by 476 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: by Joe and Luis and Terrence and Dan, and they 477 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: deserve all the credit they I kind of gave them 478 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: this project and they ran with it, and I was 479 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: able to enjoy it. And it was the least involved 480 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: I've ever been in that part. I was checking and 481 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: kind of doing this and talking about, well, we can 482 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: go up more on this bonus if we need. We've 483 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: lost out on this player type thing. But uh, we 484 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: targeted some guys. Do we get every a target, No, 485 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: but we got a good amount of the guys. We 486 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: were after So where does the roster stand right now? 487 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: What's the number and what do you have left to do? 488 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: So you know, these things aren't finalized. You know, you 489 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: have agreements in place, but we're right around eighty seven. 490 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, right now we have the exemption with Christian 491 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: Wade still, so we can get it to ninety one. 492 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: And I do want to keep a couple of spots, 493 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: so we may sign one two more maybe over the 494 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: next week or so. But some veterans, I don't know. 495 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you guys will pay attention. You're starting 496 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: to hear rumors of some veterans being released on teams 497 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: where they drafted certain players. So that can happen where 498 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: there's a you know, we're paying attention to that, and 499 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: there may be a veteran. Then we say, hey, and 500 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: I want to have a spot available. I would hate 501 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: for our coaches to we sign a free agent. They're 502 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: working with them and they've been with them for ten 503 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: days and now I pull the rug out from under 504 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: them without you know, wasting their time. So we'll keep 505 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: a couple of spots and you know, and see what 506 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: shows up. Brandon, what's next for you? Your your department 507 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: in the bills in general, what should we look for next? Yeah, 508 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean exactly what I said. We're going to continue 509 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: to see what's out there. Normally, Murph, we'd be inviting 510 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: guys right now to our that May rookie camp, trying 511 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: to get the best crop of guys, and so there's 512 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of guys out there that did 513 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: not get jobs. So that's what we're doing this week 514 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: is um you know, the guys are gonna be calming 515 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: with agents and seeing who didn't get signed and what opportunities, 516 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: making sure there's not a guy that slipped through the 517 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: cracks that we think we would like to work with 518 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: or deserve a shot. You know. That's that's the tough 519 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: part of this for both of us, is from a 520 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: team standpoint, there's some guys we'd like to get a 521 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: little more look at. And from the player you know, 522 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: there's some players that you always signed one, two, three 523 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: guys from those camp that kind of flash. You know, 524 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: Garrett mcgin we got out of that camp last year, 525 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: who we've resigned and was on Carolina's practice squad for 526 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: a year. There's always a couple and that's what that's 527 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the unfortunate part of the situation we're in for these 528 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: players in for teams. One last thing for me, Brandon, 529 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: you know May ninth is still we're looking for the 530 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: schedule to come out from the NFL. Is there anything 531 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: else on the horizon that you've been told or what 532 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: we can look for. Have you been told anything about 533 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: what may or may not transpire in the next coming weeks, 534 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: a deadline or of anything like that, or a target 535 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: date that the league's looking at maybe making some decisions. No, nothing, 536 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: nothing new really on that point. I think the league 537 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: has been trying to get through the draft and I 538 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: know they're having discussions back there. I think the next 539 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: big thing on the NFL calendar is what day they 540 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: are going to release this this schedule. The last I've 541 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: heard is it's still May ninth would be the latest date. 542 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's I haven't heard that that 543 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: is the date, but I've heard that's the latest. So 544 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: we'll see if they stick to that. I think it, 545 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, anything can be adjusted, you know. I think 546 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: if there's some things that they think, hey, around May ninth, 547 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some clarity here in one to two weeks. 548 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: We're gonna hold it that could still happen, you know, 549 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: that wouldn't surprise me. I think the May ninth date 550 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: was put out there to kind of say, hey, let's 551 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: get through the draft, give us a couple of weeks 552 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: after the draft to make some tweaks. They've always in 553 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: my mind, the league is always wanted to do this 554 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: schedule after the draft, but teams have kind of pushed 555 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: back because of trying to get planes and buses and 556 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: hotels and things like that going. So in the end, 557 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: I haven't heard a lot as far as what the 558 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: plan is, whether there will be any kind of everything's 559 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: virtual plan right now. We would love to get these 560 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: guys in late May or June, but that's still an unknown. 561 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Hey Brandon, thanks for this. Congratulations on a great draft weekend. 562 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks thanks for having me. Guys. Always good 563 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: to talk to you.