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Speaker 1: Novel.

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Speaker 2: Hey listeners, I'm your host, Ellie Flymm. Before we get started,

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Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that this episode

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Speaker 2: contains swearing, explicit sexual language, and claims of sexual abuse.

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Speaker 2: It's also a story of female empowerment and camaraderie thanks

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Speaker 2: to the women who have shared their stories with us.

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Speaker 2: We contacted the photographer mentioned in this podcast multiple times

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Speaker 2: for comment, but we never heard back. He has not

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Speaker 2: been charged with any crimes and is presumed innocent under

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Speaker 2: the law. We also contacted Playboy USA. They state that

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Speaker 2: they have asked their licensees to blacklist the photographer mentioned

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Speaker 2: in this series and that they prohibit paid to play

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Speaker 2: which you'll hear more about later in the series. Our

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Speaker 2: research into his association to Playboy and their statement will

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Speaker 2: be detailed in episode four of this series.

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Speaker 3: But enough of the admin, let's get started.

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Speaker 2: We've been sitting manning all the entrances and exits for

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Speaker 2: like two hours now, no sign of him or anyone

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Speaker 2: that looks like a models of yet. I'm sitting in

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Speaker 2: a white SUV parked on the edge of the Nevada Desert.

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Speaker 2: The heat is stifling, so we've wound the windows down

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Speaker 2: the whole.

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Speaker 3: Way a lot of nervous energy.

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Speaker 2: To my right is a hotel complex, massive orange buildings

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Speaker 2: stretching up to a bright blue sky. To my left

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Speaker 2: a long freeway which leads back to the sparkling lights

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Speaker 2: of the Las Vegas Strip. But I haven't come to

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Speaker 2: Vegas for a holiday. I'm here for a steakhout.

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Speaker 3: God, this is fucking stressing. It is really stressful.

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Speaker 2: In the back of the car is my producer, Eleanor,

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Speaker 2: and next to me in the driver's seat is an

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Speaker 2: armed security agent, an ex cop experienced in tracking down

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Speaker 2: dangerous criminals. I'm here on the trail of a man

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Speaker 2: accused of horrendous behavior who I've been investigating for the

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Speaker 2: past four years, a photographer named Luis.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys know the vehicles we're looking for?

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Speaker 2: So a model that was shooting with Luis yesterday uploaded

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Speaker 2: a video of them doing some shooting in some sort

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Speaker 2: of white car.

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Speaker 3: There's a problem.

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Speaker 2: We've been staking out the hotel for eight hours and

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Speaker 2: there's been no sign of him anywhere. Oh now, just

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Speaker 2: got this horrible anxiety of like what if he left

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Speaker 2: last night or early this morning and he's just not

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Speaker 3: Suddenly we spot something Oh my god, that looked like him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Fuck, okay, shit shit shit, shit shit.

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Speaker 2: Our agent gets on the phone to another security guard

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Speaker 2: who's been monitoring a separate entrance, and jeep four by

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Speaker 2: just came to the back.

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Speaker 5: Looks like a wagon. Ear take a look at the

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Speaker 5: mail in it. It's a male.

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Speaker 2: Subject wearing a ball cap.

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Speaker 5: Windows are down.

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Speaker 3: We start to move, letting our third and final agent though.

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Speaker 1: Hey start looking for a looks like a jeep.

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Speaker 2: Not a jeep Cherokee, but an actual jeep.

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Speaker 3: The jeep comes into vision again.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've got it up front.

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Speaker 2: We slip into the traffic behind the car and follow

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Speaker 2: it as it weaves down a busy boulevard.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you guys, get up front and copy this plate.

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Speaker 5: Get a camera out, Get a camera out.

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Speaker 3: The jeep makes a sudden turn. It's picking up speed.

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Speaker 2: This guy I think he does. We're followeeno. The jeep's

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Speaker 2: heading north, away from the strip, the casinos and the

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Speaker 3: As we slip onto a dirt road, we're moving closer.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. As we gain on him, He's winding and weaving,

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Speaker 2: trying to shake us.

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Speaker 3: This is so intense. We get ready to face him.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pull right at Barney.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that I might finally be coming face

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Speaker 2: to face with the man I've been after since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Suddenly the jeep speed drops. We lurched the side after him,

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Speaker 4: Let's see, he's gonna all over.

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Speaker 3: It all comes down to this.

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Speaker 2: The story of how I came to be chasing that

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. What started as an investigation into one man

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Speaker 2: ended up going much much deeper.

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Speaker 3: It became a.

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Speaker 2: Journey into the fringes of the sex industry, a world

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Speaker 2: full of smoke and mirrors where exploitation is rife. Unraveling

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Speaker 2: this story has taken years and has sent me around

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Speaker 2: the world as I uncovered a rotten industry with scams

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Speaker 2: more outlandish than I ever thought possible, a world where dreams.

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Speaker 2: But I'd never have taken on this mission if it

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Speaker 2: weren't for a group of around a dozen brave women

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Speaker 2: who came together first to share their allegations of abuse.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ellie Flynn and from the team at Novel. This

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Speaker 2: is the Bunny Trap, Episode one the group chat.

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Speaker 3: It all began with an email.

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Speaker 2: I'm an investigative journalist and I've dug into a lot

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Speaker 2: of different stories over the years, but mostly my work's

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Speaker 2: about women and the abuses and injustices they face. A

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Speaker 2: fair bit of that has taken me into the sex industry,

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Speaker 2: where experiences of abuse are depressingly common. I get a

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Speaker 2: lot of emails tipping me off about news stories, and

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Speaker 2: most of the time they don't lead anywhere. But every

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Speaker 2: now and then you get a tip that catches your attention.

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Speaker 3: It's like you get a.

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Speaker 2: Gut feeling that this could be something big, and this

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Speaker 2: email was one of them. It was addressed to me

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Speaker 2: and the news desks of twelve international newspapers. The subject

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Speaker 2: line read sexually abused by Playboy photographer. The writers were

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Speaker 2: a group of models on a mission to expose the

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Speaker 2: alleged behavior of a glamour photographer named Luis Gomes. If

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Speaker 2: you grew up in the UK like me, you probably

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Speaker 2: know what I mean by the glamour industry. It's basically

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Speaker 2: soft porn, adult modeling, anything from lingerie and bikinis to

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Speaker 2: nude centerfold spreads. It used to be all about magazines,

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Speaker 2: but now it's mainly moved online. In a London recording studio,

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Speaker 2: I'm meeting one of the models behind that email.

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Speaker 4: I love your bag. It's fake?

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Speaker 3: Oh is it so good?

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Speaker 4: My real bags? Because I just trashed them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously we're not here to talk about her bag.

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Speaker 2: We're here to talk about Luis Gomes, who, I want

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Speaker 2: to be clear, is the photographer based in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 2: There are other photographers named Luis Gomes around the world,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not talking about them.

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Speaker 3: What do you want me to call you?

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Speaker 4: Emily's fine?

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Speaker 3: Is that fine? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Emily's in her late twenties. We're not using her last

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Speaker 2: name because it's risky for glammor models to reveal their

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Speaker 2: a pseudonym, Emily Ray. On Instagram, Emily's your quintessential modern

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Speaker 2: day glamor model. Her profile is littered with glamorous photos

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Speaker 2: of her in lingerie or latex costumes. But the first

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Speaker 2: thing Emily wants me to know is that she's much

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Speaker 2: more than her sex bond persona.

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Speaker 1: I am very goofy. I am so goofy. I'm a

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Speaker 1: I cry at the Andrex advert with the puppies. I

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Speaker 1: love musical theater. I'm just a regular person and people

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Speaker 1: do forget actually that we.

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Speaker 4: Are real people. I'm a big family.

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Speaker 2: Emily grew up in a market town in the southeast

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Speaker 2: of England with her mum, dad and brother, and it

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Speaker 2: was there, in her completely normal, far from glamorous home

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Speaker 2: that she first became interested in glamor modeling. In the

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Speaker 2: early noughties, when Emily was around eleven years old, she

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Speaker 2: saw something in her older brother's bedroom.

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Speaker 1: This massive poster of this blonde girl dressed in an

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Speaker 1: army outfit and she had these tiny little shorts on,

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Speaker 1: fake bullets, blonde hair, big eyelashes, and these massive, massive boobs.

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Speaker 2: She'd creep into her brother's room when he was out

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Speaker 2: the model in the poster represented everything she longed to be,

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Speaker 2: but it was about much more than just her massive,

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Speaker 1: She looks so sexy and happy and like she looked

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Speaker 3: Like her confidence. That's what Emily wanted the most.

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Speaker 2: Let me take you back to Britain in the early

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Speaker 2: noughties when I was growing up. Craig David and the

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Speaker 2: Sugar Babes are on the radio, the Olsen Twins are

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Speaker 2: on TV, and glamour magazines are everywhere. I remember standing

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Speaker 2: as we passed around copies of FHM, feeling my cheeks

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Speaker 2: of gorgeous women in skimpy bikinis. It felt funny and embarrassing,

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Speaker 2: but also we secretly aspired to be like those girls.

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Speaker 2: There was just something about the models in those days.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just their looks, hour glass figures, perfect teeth

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Speaker 2: They had a kind of relatability that didn't exist on

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Speaker 2: high fashion catwalks. Glamour girls were cheeky, they had a

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Speaker 1: I just loved the look, and then that sort of

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Speaker 3: So Emily gave up on the dream.

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Speaker 2: She finished school, worked a series of jobs, and got

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Speaker 2: and Facebook, its subscription model means followers have to pay

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Speaker 2: to see your posts. It also allows explicit content for

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Speaker 2: the sex industry, it changed everything. It blurred the lines

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, I used to take pictures of myself

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Speaker 1: from lingerie all the time. I had two years worth

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Speaker 1: of photos on my camera roll.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, kil what have I got to lose?

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Speaker 2: She unlocked her phone and started browsing for the perfect

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Speaker 1: I think it was a thirty second video of me

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Speaker 1: pulling shorts over my bum. You can just hear the

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Speaker 1: as the jeans go up open my bum and this

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Speaker 1: little jiggle, and I absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 4: I was like, that will be the first one.

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Speaker 1: So I uploaded and I started advertising it on my

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Speaker 1: social media and it just took off.

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Speaker 2: To Emily's surprise, dozens of people started subscribing to her

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Speaker 2: only Fans account, and then hundreds.

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Speaker 3: She was kind of a hit, and with each new

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Speaker 3: fan she got paid.

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Speaker 1: And then you go on your balanced and you keep

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Speaker 1: refreshing it, and it's just going up and up and

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Speaker 1: up and up.

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Speaker 2: Emily says that in her first twenty four hours on

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Speaker 2: the site, she made about two grand and.

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Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, if I can keep this

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: Soon OnlyFans was her full time job, led by her

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Speaker 3: Emily Ray, You've.

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Speaker 1: Got to get out of bed and you've got to

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Speaker 2: Luisa's profile was full of photos he'd taken of women

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Speaker 2: She also saw being published in Playboy as a huge

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Speaker 1: We'll give you a golden ticket. We give out golden tickets.

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Speaker 2: A golden ticket the chance to shoot with Luis Gomez

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Speaker 1: He was asking me why I wanted to be in Playboy,

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Speaker 3: High levels.

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Speaker 2: Sure, But as far as Emily's concerned, Luis is a

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Speaker 3: I mean, he says, he.

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Speaker 2: But then Luise says something that puts her on edge.

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Speaker 1: He said, I'm giving you this for free because you've

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Speaker 4: This was the arrangement.

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Speaker 1: You have a free photo shoot, and you spend the

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Speaker 1: I'll make you a star. I said, no, what do

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Speaker 3: Just then Emily's friend arrives.

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Speaker 4: I said I need to go and let my friend in.

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Speaker 4: My god, Oh my god, he thinks I'm going to

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Speaker 3: And she was like, what was like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: She said, you want to just go leaving with me

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Speaker 2: Emily knows she might not get another chance. This silent

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Speaker 2: It's that internal voice quickly rattling through the possible outcomes

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I can hold my own I can look after myself.

443
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: We've come all this way.

444
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes, and if he crosses the

445
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: line again, I'll get my stuff and we'll leave.

446
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: Emily takes a deep breath, steals herself and makes her

447
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: way back inside. Upstairs, in a bedroom with high ceilings,

448
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: a four poster bed and windows draped with long white curtains.

449
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: Emily's posing in her first outfit, a short poker dot

450
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: dress and black patent hills.

451
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: I look like a housewife. I was comfortable doing that.

452
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: We had music on. It was a bit more of

453
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: a chilled vibe.

454
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: Luise gets into all sorts of positions to capture her

455
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: best angles. He's going to a lot of effort. He's

456
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: even wearing knee pads. Emily's warming up to the camera

457
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: and starting to enjoy herself. After another quick outfit change

458
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: and some more lifestyle shots, it's time for lingerie. This

459
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: could end up in Playboy after all. Emily's friend decides

460
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: to give her some privacy.

461
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, I don't want to sort of

462
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: impose because sometimes obviously you can do some risk a stuff.

463
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: And I said, oh yeah, I'll just call you if

464
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: I need you.

465
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Emily and Luis are now alone. Emily poses by the

466
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: wall in a lazy black lingerie set. She's in her element.

467
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: She loves shooting in lingerie. Then something strange happens. Luise

468
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: puts down his camera and picks up his guitar.

469
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: He was playing his own music in the background, so

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00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of the shoot he'd stop and he'd

471
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: get out of his guitar and he'd start playing chords

472
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: and playing along to music.

473
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: But then it shifts from weird to worse. Just a

474
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: heads up. What Emily describes next might be distressing.

475
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: It was lingerie, and then it was lingerie with my

476
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: brass strapped down, and then it was lingerie with my

477
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: off and then.

478
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: It was here, here's an ice cube.

479
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: Put it in your mouth, suck it, put it on

480
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: your nipples, you know, like, play with it. Things kind

481
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: of sort of started escalating to pornographic, and I just thought,

482
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: what is going on?

483
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: Emily racks her brain, thinking back to Luis's shots that

484
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: she'd seen on the front cover of Playboy magazines, gorgeous

485
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: girls on exostic beaches and tiny bikinis looking tall, strong, sexy,

486
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: hair flowing in the breeze, amazing makeup, flattering angles, not

487
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: ice cubes in a shitty airbnb. But then again, maybe

488
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: it's fine. After all, Playboy editorials are pretty sexy. Maybe

489
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: this is just what Playboy models do.

490
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll just go with it for now.

491
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: Like he's far away, he's not near me kind of thing,

492
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: so I could deal with that.

493
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: But then Louise moves closer.

494
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: He would physically come over and grab your hand and

495
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: put it somewhere, and he was very aggressive and pushy,

496
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: and he gets very in your space and I just

497
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: sort of just went with it because you don't really

498
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: know what to do. I was just anxious and eager

499
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: for it to be over with.

500
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Louise should know that he's not supposed to touch her,

501
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: but by now this shoot isn't feeling very professional at all.

502
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: Emily had been so excited for a glamorous sheet with

503
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: a photographer who had the power to make her name,

504
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: but it feels like he's hell bent on getting to

505
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: the OnlyFans content.

506
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: He wanted me fully nude with just heels on, like

507
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: on the bed. He was asking me to spread my legs.

508
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: Then he went in my suitcase and took out one

509
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: of my toys and sort of like throw at me

510
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: and was telling me what to.

511
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Do with it. Emily wants to push back to focus

512
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: on the glamour shots, but her resolver is worn down,

513
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: so she does as she's told.

514
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: The way he was behind the camera, he's a very

515
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: strong presence. He's very old, do this, do that, do this,

516
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: and then it was right now, put it in you,

517
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: and then it was just going on and on and on.

518
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: I didn't mind having toys and being seductive or like

519
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: putting a toy in my mouth. It's not like I'd

520
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: never done open leg, but the way he made me

521
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: feel was very uncomfortable and dirty and horrible.

522
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: Emily thinks that if she stops the shoot now, she'll

523
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: blow the whole thing and ruin her chance to get

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Speaker 2: into Playboy.

525
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: So she rationalizes, I'll just do it and get out.

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00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: I remember just looking up at the ceiling. I'm just

527
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: thinking this is too much.

528
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: Emily notices that the room has become eerily quiet.

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00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: He stopped clicking. Yeah, he'd switched his camera from shoot

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00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: to film.

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Speaker 2: According to Emily, Luis has stopped taking photos. Now he's

532
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: taking videos. She never agreed to this, and he must have.

533
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: Been doing this for a good five minutes before I'd realized.

534
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: And he was getting closer and closer and closer to

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00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: me with this camera between my legs. His camera lens

536
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: was probably about two inches away from me. It was

537
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: basically inside me at one point. And then he was

538
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: asking to perform oral sex on him for the camera,

539
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: and I said to him, I'm not doing things like that.

540
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: He was just so pushy and persistent, and I thought,

541
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: when is he going to give up? I said no,

542
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: like no literally means no. Emily gets up and starts

543
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: putting on her clothes. She's not thinking about stardom anymore.

544
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: The thing that two hours ago she'd have done anything

545
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: to achieve, she no longer wants it, not if this

546
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: is the cost.

547
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: She doesn't care about anything except getting out of that room.

548
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: What was his proximity to you? Where was he standing?

549
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: He was very close in my breathing space. He kissed

550
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: me and he was so sweaty, and he kept going

551
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: for my mouth and I had to turn my head

552
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: and he put his hands like round my waist, and

553
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: that was enough to make me feel disgusting. He was

554
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: always touching my lower back or trying to touch my bum.

555
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: He was like, nobody has to know. I said no

556
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: and not doing that that I've told you when I

557
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: got here. That's not the arrangement. He kept saying, But

558
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: you're staying here, You're staying here.

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00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: No, I'm not, and just got my stuff and I

560
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: just left with my friend.

561
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: Which you think would have happened if your friend wasn't there.

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: God do you know what, I don't even want to

563
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: think about it. That's such a hard thing to think about.

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00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: I had a lucky escape, a really lucky escape. I

565
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: was like, I need to get back to my hotel

566
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: and I need to shower.

567
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: I've never felt so dirty.

568
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: I felt gross, I felt sweaty, I felt degraded. I

569
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: remember just scrubbing my skin in the shower. It's like

570
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: there's things under your skin. It's just that you can't

571
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: get something off you. Literally, somebody's got under your skin.

572
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: You can't get it out.

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00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: In the following days, Emily couldn't stop thinking about what

574
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: happened to her. It all felt somehow planned. She had

575
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: an instinct that she might not be the first model

576
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: he'd felt this way after a photo shoot with Luis Gomes.

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00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: I think I put out a post on my Instagram

578
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: story actually to see if anybody had had a bad

579
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: experience with a photographer, and I didn't name anybody, and

580
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people that clicked yes sent me a

581
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: direct message straight away saying is this about Louis Gomas.

582
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: And suddenly Emily wasn't alone. She was one of around

583
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: a dozen pissed off models, all of the voice notes

584
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: you're about to hear are the words of real women,

585
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: but to protect their identities, some have been voiced by actors.

586
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't really get out that he had the door locked,

587
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: he had the key.

588
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: I was the only person.

589
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: There scaring models.

590
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: He's intimidating them, preying on them, sexually harassing them.

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00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: He was fucking horrible.

592
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: He's a level pusher and a fucking dirty perve.

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00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm a really like experienced model and I was modeling

594
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: for like three years before I shot with Louise, but

595
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: even he made me uncomfortable. He's like the Harvey weinscene

596
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: of the photography industry.

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00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: He's disgusting.

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00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: To Emily, it was clear that what she'd experienced with

599
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Louise hadn't been a one off.

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00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: He's just spinning the web for you to get.

601
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: Trapped in it. Predatorish, that's the only word for it.

602
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: He is literally a predator.

603
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: It felt like these shoots weren't about the pictures or Playboy.

604
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: It felt like they were an opportunity to abuse models

605
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: behind closed doors.

606
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: We thought, we can't let this happen again.

607
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: The women organized.

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00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm getting a group chat together of girls that have

609
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: all had a really bad experience.

610
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, WhatsApp group for all the models who claimed

611
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: they'd been abused by Louise. It would be a place

612
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: to share experiences, support each other, and come up with

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00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: a plan to make sure that no other model would

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00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: shoot with Louise without hearing their allegations. First, they'd all

615
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: realized one thing Luis was hiding behind his self proclaimed

616
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: statis as a playboy photographer.

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00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: That's what had got them all in the room.

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00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: So when it came to choosing a name for the

619
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: group chat, well that was only one choice.

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00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: Fuck playboy coming up on the bunny trap?

621
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: Why do I start relying?

622
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's way darker and white, deeper than

623
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 4: I could every imagine.

624
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to be cool, and I wanted to be

625
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 2: in the magazine, and I wanted to be in the limelight.

626
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: He said, for five thousand pounds, I could be the

627
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: playboy playmame.

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00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 5: If they're asking you for money, it's a scam because

629
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 5: why do you have to pay to be a model.

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00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: The whole industry has just changed. I was stupid in

631
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: naives because I didn't know, like, what the fuck is mam?

632
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 5: Right, He's everywhere and has been everywhere ladies.

633
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: I got it all.

634
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: I got it all. It's not just me.

635
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 5: We're an army and perison to him.

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00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Thanks to the women who shared their stories with us.

637
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: We contacted Luis Gomez multiple times for comment, but we

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00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: never heard back. He has not been charged with any

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: crimes and is presumed innocent under the law. We also

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00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: sought comment from Playboy USA. They declined our request for

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: an interview, but you can hear their statement later in

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Speaker 2: the series. The Bonnie Trap is produced by Novel. For

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Speaker 2: more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio. The show is

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Speaker 2: hosted by me Ellie Flynn. You can find me on

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Speaker 2: social media by searching my name that's eb l i

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Speaker 2: e fy double n. This season is produced by Eleanor

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Speaker 2: Biggs and written by me Ellie Flynn and Eleen the Biggs.

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Speaker 2: Our assistant producer is Amla Sortland, with additional production from

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Speaker 2: Lee Meyer and Saskia Collette. Additional research by Valeria Rocker.

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Speaker 2: The editors are Georgia Moody and Austin Mitchell. Our executive

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Speaker 2: producers are Max O'Brien and Craig Strachan. Our fat checker

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Speaker 2: is Fendall Fulton. Production management from Scherie Houston and Charlotte Wolfe.

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Speaker 2: Sound design, mixing and scoring by Daniel Kempson and Nicholas Alexander,

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Speaker 2: Music supervision by Nicholas Alexander, Eleana Biggs and Max O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: Original music composed and performed by Jake Long, and additional

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Speaker 2: production by Nicholas Alexander, Louisa Gerstein and Daniel Kempson. The

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Speaker 2: series artwork was designed by Christina Limcole, Willard Foxton's creative

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Speaker 2: director of development. Various women from the group Chat were

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Speaker 2: voiced by Boo Miller. The theme Team You Heard was

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00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: from the TV series The Girls next Door, produced by

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