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Speaker 1: Think you're better than me?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 1: All right it is make them a lot better than
Speaker 1: October second, twenty twenty five. Yeah, those are our facts.
Speaker 1: You are a lot better than me. My name is Jack.
Speaker 1: That over there is mister Miles. Great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, whoa, yes, let's go. What's trending?
Speaker 1: I got him? I did to a art show opening
Speaker 1: for Todd Gray by a friend who like works at
Speaker 1: a gallery. Yeah. I was like the fun.
Speaker 3: That's funny Ledge When is it. I don't even know
Speaker 3: there's an opening in the new year. Oh shit, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, I'll wake you up one September.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please do all right, it's October. Oh shit, man,
Speaker 1: wake me up when October ends. Also, just kind of
Speaker 1: can we can we click this ship? Can we just
Speaker 1: fast forward run through a couple of years here? All right?
Speaker 1: What's happening in the news. The government shutdown is happening.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump trying to be real shrewd with it, is
Speaker 1: basically like I'll starve you to death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, like it's just it's just retaliation.
Speaker 2: There's a lot happening. The insistence on this is a
Speaker 2: Democrats shutdown, Like there are mass emails going out, like
Speaker 2: you know, because the Democrats are like fucking over or
Speaker 2: like if you get a bounce back email, they're like,
Speaker 2: due to the Democrats shutdown, we will be slow and
Speaker 2: responding to da da da da da. He's really trying
Speaker 2: to just sort of like seed that idea that this
Speaker 2: is all at the responsibility of the Democrats because this
Speaker 2: is a lie. He's saying it's because they want to
Speaker 2: give illegals health care, and that's the hill they want
Speaker 2: to die on, So we're just going to have to
Speaker 2: shit they then we have no choice. And to that end,
Speaker 2: we are going to threaten thousands of federal workers with
Speaker 2: layoffs too as a way basically just blackmailing the Democrats
Speaker 2: to be like, we'll do it, Yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 2: We're fucking wacky man read Project twenty twenty five. So
Speaker 2: he and Russell Vott are now using the shutdown to
Speaker 2: just see how much damage they can inflict first, I think,
Speaker 2: on blue states, to try and really upset the people
Speaker 2: in those states, like by pulling all kinds of green
Speaker 2: energy money that was supposed to go in there from
Speaker 2: the Green New Deal. So pretty much any state that
Speaker 2: didn't vote for him is seeing that money get pulled,
Speaker 2: along with a few other states with like other specific programs.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of they're at that place now and
Speaker 2: just trying to take it out on federal workers as
Speaker 2: a way to try and bring Democrats to the table.
Speaker 1: Just a hostage situation essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's just it's fucking crazy because you're talking
Speaker 2: about the people that do the work, that even give
Speaker 2: people the idea that things work. So then when there
Speaker 2: aren't any people to sustain those agencies. That's going to
Speaker 2: be that's going to manifest in chaos, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: that's that is part of Project twenty twenty five is
Speaker 2: to completely gut the federal government essentially.
Speaker 1: Right, And so it just gives them an excuse.
Speaker 2: But I think that's the other thing too, is like
Speaker 2: doing that really close to I mean, while if we
Speaker 2: have normal elections, you know, having like a government like
Speaker 2: that is absolutely just not fucking working isn't a great look.
Speaker 2: But for the people in power, yeah, they're really never
Speaker 2: interested in, look what a good look is. So it's
Speaker 2: just very you know, right now, it's starting with this
Speaker 2: shit about being well, we're not going to give you
Speaker 2: your windmil money, right, but I'm sure we'll. They're gonna
Speaker 2: probably crank the heat up the more they realize how
Speaker 2: much people are laying this at their feet, right.
Speaker 1: And the Democrats are just being like no, uh, it's
Speaker 1: a Trump shut down, and like it's just yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're being.
Speaker 2: Clear and being like this is this is not whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck they're talking about. It's because they're gonna take
Speaker 2: away all these healthcare subsidies and like your assurance tax credits,
Speaker 2: like people, you know, they're giving examples of like, let's
Speaker 2: say you're a sixty year old couple in Mike Johnson's
Speaker 2: like the state of Louisiana, your your fucking premiums are
Speaker 2: gonna go up like three hundred percent without some of
Speaker 2: these tax credits intact. So yeah, it's just a bunch
Speaker 2: of screaming right now. As you know, this thing just
Speaker 2: kind of grinds to a halt for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great country, we got here, Yeah, killing it.
Speaker 1: We're doing We're doing good work. Everything's functioning great. We do.
Speaker 1: We did get a sense of like how they're talking
Speaker 1: behind the scenes a little bit with a hot mic
Speaker 1: moment from who what's this.
Speaker 2: Reverend Madaline Dean Madeline Madelin Dean as a Democrat speaking
Speaker 2: of Mike Johnson, pretty candid, the way that people might
Speaker 2: speak to one another. Yeah, just cam him in the corner,
Speaker 2: and you know, this is getting a lot of attention
Speaker 2: because a lot of you'll just see she's like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck's going on with the president? Basically yeah, and
Speaker 2: this is Mike Johnson subconsciously agreeing with her by nodding
Speaker 2: his head in agreement as she's talking, but then being
Speaker 2: like well no, no, no, no. But here's this interaction that
Speaker 2: was sort of happening off camera, but because the mic
Speaker 2: was on, we got to sort of hear it all happen.
Speaker 4: The president is unhinged, he is unwell. What are you
Speaker 4: doing on your set?
Speaker 1: Are too? I don't control?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, please that performance in front of the
Speaker 4: generals that it's so dangerous. You know, I serve on
Speaker 4: foreign affairs and appropriations. This is a collision of those
Speaker 4: two things. Our allies are looking elsewhere, our enemies are laughing. President,
Speaker 4: she's a president who is unwell.
Speaker 1: A lot of folks on your side are two? Are two? Two?
Speaker 1: As in I know you are.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That seems to be accepting that the president is out
Speaker 1: of his mind, and then saying, well, you guys have
Speaker 1: some like bad ones too, which seems like a real
Speaker 1: oh my god, he admitted it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what a lot of people are being like, Wait,
Speaker 2: hold on. So when she goes he's unhinged, he's unwell,
Speaker 2: and you said people on your side are too, is it?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: This is yeah. I mean I love that.
Speaker 2: Her response after the like a lot of folks on
Speaker 2: your side are too, it was like, oh my god, please.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of here for this.
Speaker 2: Wake the fuck up, dude, Like that's what it felt like?
Speaker 2: That did you because you know he knows it's an
Speaker 2: L because you said that performance in front of the
Speaker 2: generals when.
Speaker 1: He was just like, I didn't see it. You know,
Speaker 1: they know it's an L when they say I didn't
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, I actually didn't watch that thing that
Speaker 1: everybody's been talking about for the past twenty four hours
Speaker 1: where the president spoke to the most powerful military figures
Speaker 1: in the country. I actually, uh, didn't you follow up?
Speaker 1: How did you think about that? Actually? So that was
Speaker 1: the thing?
Speaker 2: Sorry, follow up your third in line to be president,
Speaker 2: just so you know, and you you didn't see that?
Speaker 2: So are you bad at your job? Also? Do you
Speaker 2: want to see it now? And then you can tell.
Speaker 1: Me what the fuck is up? Sure you want to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: You want to try that shit out?
Speaker 1: This did make me just wonder, like, why the fuck
Speaker 1: aren't the Democrats talking like this in public? Was my
Speaker 1: first thought, Like is it are they just standing on
Speaker 1: decorum at this point where, like, you know, the lives
Speaker 1: of people they represent are being violently upended, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we can't be rude and say officially, like the prade is.
Speaker 2: You know, e Nile, He's slipping into darkness, and.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I mean, families and communities are being torn
Speaker 1: apart by government sanctioned kidnappings, and they're choosing to like
Speaker 1: point out that the president is unhinged behind closed doors.
Speaker 2: See well, and this is where I'm maybe this is
Speaker 2: they are keeping that same energy, because yesterday Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker,
Speaker 2: in front of microphones was like the here, I'll just this.
Speaker 1: This is JB.
Speaker 2: Pritzker at a press conference.
Speaker 5: It appears that Donald Trump not only has dementia set in,
Speaker 5: but he's copying tactics of Vladimir Putin. Sending troops into cities,
Speaker 5: thinking that that's some sort of proving ground for war
Speaker 5: or that indeed there's some sort of internal war going
Speaker 5: on in the United States. Is just frankly inane, and
Speaker 5: I'm concerned for his health.
Speaker 2: He goes on to be like, yeah, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: twenty fifth Amendment here, he might need to be removed
Speaker 2: from office, right. I mean, I honestly think like the
Speaker 2: concern trolling is probably a good tactic. Here is he okay?
Speaker 2: Is he okay? Is he okay? Are you sure what
Speaker 2: was that about? What was that about? I didn't see it.
Speaker 2: Oh you should see it and then tell me what
Speaker 2: that was about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, just keep pressing yeah, because you can
Speaker 1: only press.
Speaker 2: They can only mitigate for so long, which they have
Speaker 2: been doing. But it's also I think that I think
Speaker 2: the people who are on the opposing side of it go,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, let me ask a follow up question, because
Speaker 2: it's clear to everyone on the left or who isn't
Speaker 2: a Republican who's like a total sick event that he
Speaker 2: has fucking cooked mentally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, Like, I think it's a good
Speaker 1: way forward just to like, it's just the energy of it,
Speaker 1: to just be like, this is not normal. Fuck, this
Speaker 1: guy is like the energy of it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's caused by senility or you know, moments of sinility,
Speaker 1: or if the I don't know, like he just he's
Speaker 1: still just barfing out the same shit. He's just worse
Speaker 1: that and seems more tired and like scattered. Right.
Speaker 2: Sure, but if you compare it to any person who
Speaker 2: we would say is healthy and in their maybe middle age,
Speaker 2: even they can say full sentences, they can connect ideas
Speaker 2: like objectively, his speech is all it's like scatterbrained. Yes,
Speaker 2: he was mistaking Albania for Armenia recently, Like he can't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't get anything straight that is objectively not good.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, we're sort of like operating
Speaker 2: in this thing where like everyone kind of knows, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy's kind of fucking something's wrong with him. But
Speaker 2: I think Republicans it's easy for them like, oh, he's
Speaker 2: he's a quirky, fun president. But if you kind of
Speaker 2: keep insisting this is so different, this is like something
Speaker 2: is wrong, like is he okay? I think it at
Speaker 2: least shift the conversation to at least yeah, because the
Speaker 2: framing is still the framing isn't that guy something's wrong
Speaker 2: with him? The framing is he's kind of a weird guy.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what we're operating in, and that needs
Speaker 2: to conversation. If this kind of tactic is effective, it
Speaker 2: would shift it to what's wrong with him? And why
Speaker 2: aren't you guys who are in his party doing something
Speaker 2: about it? Because to leave him there is putting everyone
Speaker 2: in grave danger. I mean, like already we are. But
Speaker 2: I guess in terms of like rhetorically, how Democrats or
Speaker 2: Republicans talk on the hill that would at least begin
Speaker 2: to put more pressure on them explaining like why he's
Speaker 2: posting weird shit. Caroline Levitt was asked about the medbed
Speaker 2: video guy, and the press is like, what was he
Speaker 2: trying to communicate with that video? He deleted it, but
Speaker 2: what was he trying to communicate to that with that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she just went on a version of like, he
Speaker 2: likes to post memes and like stuff that he sees
Speaker 2: that he likes, and isn't it refreshing? But then you
Speaker 2: can be like, he was talking about technologies that don't exist.
Speaker 1: Right, that seems weird for the president to send a
Speaker 1: video that says he's created a technology that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: That seems does he believe in it? Or what is
Speaker 2: he implying by that that's that's aspirational for him?
Speaker 1: What is the that you know politics much better than me?
Speaker 1: What is the fourth that is stopping them from speaking
Speaker 1: the way that she just spoke to him on a
Speaker 1: hot mic that stopped them from saying they're weird? Is
Speaker 1: that the consultants being like, if we're too mean, it
Speaker 1: seems unlikable.
Speaker 2: What what's I mean there's always some version of like
Speaker 2: because like the messaging gets so vetted, like if it's
Speaker 2: coming from the party, like they're they're fucking in the
Speaker 2: lab trying to be like what what what happens with
Speaker 2: this group? BEFO, we're talking this way right? How is
Speaker 2: how does this messaging poll with this group? I think
Speaker 2: right now the reason is because I for what I mean,
Speaker 2: like what we've seen is just that Democrats they're still
Speaker 2: insistent on having this sense of like, well, we're not
Speaker 2: going to I mean they were they were casting aspersions
Speaker 2: on Joe Biden's mental acuity, right, and and that's just
Speaker 2: that's just really unbecoming.
Speaker 1: So there's so so you should have cast dispersions on
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's mental acuity?
Speaker 2: Dumb fucks. That's what I mean that I would be effective.
Speaker 2: We'll be like, hey, guys, you know we should have
Speaker 2: actually acted sooner, right, and you know what, and now
Speaker 2: we're telling you.
Speaker 1: We're coming off a massive mistake that we made and
Speaker 1: we're worried, like it's like you can't have the same
Speaker 1: exact thing happened two times in a row and not
Speaker 1: catch it, like the same shit has happened.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too, is they don't want
Speaker 2: to start doing the like he's he's got dementia thing,
Speaker 2: because then the Republicans just cook up some fake doctor's
Speaker 2: note and be like.
Speaker 1: Right, guys are like you guys are Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying, like, just adjust it a little
Speaker 2: bit and go yeah, okay, a little tweak, Yeah that
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: The energy is important to me. I don't think that
Speaker 1: this is like the only way forward, being No, I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll be able to just like, you know,
Speaker 1: work around that. I do think journalists should be changing,
Speaker 1: Like you said, they should be asking follow up questions
Speaker 1: in a very reserve way that uh forces him, especially
Speaker 1: to think on his feet if they're continuing to make
Speaker 1: him a bit to the media, which I guess they
Speaker 1: don't do that often. But when you have that opportunity,
Speaker 1: go in knowing that you were this is both an
Speaker 1: attempt to like get information but also an attempt to
Speaker 1: give him a public like neurological exam, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and get them he would have them to articulate
Speaker 2: a defense of it too, because half the time it
Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense. Although you know, I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people they they do just see him as
Speaker 2: quirky or whatever. You know that are like that are
Speaker 2: his fans, because really they just like to see you know,
Speaker 2: they're like, I just want to drink liberal tears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can find little moments where he says
Speaker 1: something that seems to make sense. It's just yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: when taken in the hole. Anybody who has you know,
Speaker 1: lived with or had a loved one who suffered from
Speaker 1: dementia recognizes the energy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's more like you got to it's more about
Speaker 2: putting pressure on the sick of fans, Yeah, in the House,
Speaker 2: in the Senate and in the cabinet to be like, yo,
Speaker 2: you're good with this, yo, this you this you you know,
Speaker 2: like more more so about making a person individually account
Speaker 2: for what that what how they're seeing it. Like that's
Speaker 2: why Mike Johnson got so uncomfortable because she was She
Speaker 2: was like, what's going on with him? What do you
Speaker 2: think about this? And he's like, well, you know, you
Speaker 2: guys do it too.
Speaker 1: It's just wild that he didn't know the very basic
Speaker 1: rules of like how you respond to a playground insult.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, uh, you seem like so
Speaker 1: stupid that like I'm I'm actually worried about you. And
Speaker 1: he's like, well, you are too. Yeah. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: you say, I know you are, but what am I
Speaker 1: You're not? You're You're not supposed to include you, dip shit.
Speaker 1: We're both really dumb. Yeah, I know, but you are too.
Speaker 1: We're both dumb as fuck.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, man, let's just get to it.
Speaker 1: Header gut. You are bad at this header gun man,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, fucking sucker, dick man, don't beat me up.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 1: And there's this new order named NSPM seven. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: did we touch on that yesterday on Monday?
Speaker 2: On Monday, just basically talking about yeah, like the new
Speaker 2: directive to make anything anti traditional, anti Christian, anti capitalism,
Speaker 2: anti America.
Speaker 1: It's pretty indicator for terrorism. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's basically I don't know. So this Time Magazine article
Speaker 1: just lays it out. The Trump administration is facing mounting
Speaker 1: criticism over a sweeping directive that expands the government's definition
Speaker 1: of domestic terrorism indicators to include a wide range of
Speaker 1: political beliefs, with lawmakers and civil liberties groups warning it
Speaker 1: could be used to criminalize descent. It could be used
Speaker 1: to criminalize descent. The wording is it directs the FBI's
Speaker 1: Joint Terrorism Task Force to investigate networks, entities, and organizations
Speaker 1: that foment political violence, and identifies ideological markers such as
Speaker 1: anti Americanism, anti capitalism, and anti Christianity as red flags.
Speaker 2: There's another thing too, that said extreme views on gender
Speaker 2: or extreme views on immigrants. Basically, if you know, it's
Speaker 2: essentially whatever, if you guys are if you're not on
Speaker 2: board with this, then you were going to label you
Speaker 2: as some kind of terrorist to you know, bring back
Speaker 2: this new McCarthyism.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always said Time magazine as a garbage publication.
Speaker 1: But to claim that this could be used to criminalize descent,
Speaker 1: it is the Criminalizing Descent bill. It is the explicit, Like,
Speaker 1: how could it be any more explicit? Like that's like
Speaker 1: saying a handgun that is pointed at your head could
Speaker 1: be used to shoot you. That's the whole fucking reason
Speaker 1: it's there. Yeah, like what what other things? Well, so
Speaker 1: you're saying it could be used what other things could
Speaker 1: it be used for?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is specifically a weapon to make it so
Speaker 1: they can arrest trans people or people who are critical
Speaker 1: of fucking capitalism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I mean, the order itself is just
Speaker 2: very wacky, and it's like sort of it's doing this
Speaker 2: whole thing of like there's all these foreign money coming
Speaker 2: in because a lot I was reading a lot of
Speaker 2: people who talk about like Farah enforcement, you know, the
Speaker 2: Foreign Agents Registration Act, Like they're trying to use that
Speaker 2: to try and say like if there are affinity groups
Speaker 2: or advocacy groups that are receiving money from anything that
Speaker 2: could be tied to like like a foreign country or
Speaker 2: foreign national, Yeah, that they're going to try and use
Speaker 2: that to be like, oh, we have foreign people trying
Speaker 2: to affect like, you know, the conversation in this country
Speaker 2: by backing these groups or whatever. So I was reading
Speaker 2: about like lawyers who work with certain groups that you
Speaker 2: know could be seen as quote unquote being in the
Speaker 2: part of this, like you know, a terroristic group that
Speaker 2: they should really be looking over because seems like maybe
Speaker 2: like foreign money is going to be an inroad with
Speaker 2: how they try and legally fuck people over too, like
Speaker 2: to start yeah with like these like you know, larger
Speaker 2: organizations to be like why are you getting money from
Speaker 2: this person who lives out of the country. Oh, that's strange.
Speaker 1: In this global economy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just really it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not interesting. It's just very confusing because
Speaker 2: like legally, like all the people who read it, they're like, like, legally,
Speaker 2: this documents all over the place, but they're also like,
Speaker 2: at the same time, the government is using nothing but
Speaker 2: like legally dubious arguments to fuck with people right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So in that way, it's like hard to know
Speaker 2: how this actually ends up like manifesting.
Speaker 1: It seems bad, it seems no, no, it is I mean,
Speaker 1: like to articulate it already to be like, if you
Speaker 1: do not believe Jesus Christ is the Savior and money
Speaker 1: is his rest, the greenback is his father, you will
Speaker 1: go away for whatever or lose.
Speaker 2: Everything or whatever. They you know, decide to punish it.
Speaker 1: They were annoyed that they only had to take Jimmy
Speaker 1: Kimmel off the air. They were wishing they could just
Speaker 1: arrest him, you know. The update on the Gods of
Speaker 1: flotilla is that it has been intercepted by the Israeli Navy,
Speaker 1: who detained hundreds of activists and arrested them with no
Speaker 1: right to do so in any way, And I mean,
Speaker 1: that's really it's very depressing. And then like I'm also
Speaker 1: really depressed to report that I was like half relieved
Speaker 1: that they didn't murder them all. That's like where the
Speaker 1: fucking where my expectations are for the Israeli military. But
Speaker 1: I like everybody should be outraged. There are protests cropping up,
Speaker 1: but these are they're arresting and detaining people who were
Speaker 1: trying to bring fucking baby formula and like humanitarian aid,
Speaker 1: humanitarian aid, purely humanitarian aid. So that's extremely frustrating. And
Speaker 1: I think that the people who organized this were hoping
Speaker 1: that they could get aid to the starving people in Gaza.
Speaker 1: But also we're aware that this is a possibility of
Speaker 1: just like showing how nakedly fucked this enemy is and
Speaker 1: how fucking awful they are, how like they will arrest
Speaker 1: people and treat it like you're trying to smuggle heroin
Speaker 1: for trying to bring baby formula to starving infants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it just shows you. I mean,
Speaker 2: like when when the West, you know, the quote unquote
Speaker 2: the West are like the former colonial powers are on
Speaker 2: your side. It's one thing, right, That's why Ukraine is
Speaker 2: getting support, right, because all these countries are sort of
Speaker 2: like they're mostly in agreement that they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, Russia,
Speaker 2: bad fight them, Here's here's stuff to fight them with.
Speaker 2: But with this, I'm sorry, like the idea of these
Speaker 2: people like acknowledging the oppression and the apartheid state and
Speaker 2: all that, like that's just it's just like a thing
Speaker 2: they can't that's just a bridge they're not able to cross.
Speaker 2: So now we have this like weird disjointed movement where
Speaker 2: like some countries are like, yeah, fucking do something, but
Speaker 2: also fuck man, maybe turned back.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Shit, it's hard and there's only a.
Speaker 1: Few you're gonna make the mad stop. Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: undermine peace talks. Jesus.
Speaker 2: Then you have the other nations who are very much
Speaker 2: staunchly opposed in our vocal about it. But again because
Speaker 2: of you know, they don't have the same standing as
Speaker 2: like an America or a France or UK. You know,
Speaker 2: it allows you know, Israel to keep doing this shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was listening to an interview with one of
Speaker 1: the people on the flotilla, who is like the Spanish
Speaker 1: and Italian support was seemed pretty lax, Like they were
Speaker 1: like just so you know, if you guys get attacked,
Speaker 1: we're like not engaging. We're just and we're probably not
Speaker 1: going to be with you much longer because this is scary. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want to like get dragged into this,
Speaker 2: like as a government. But good luck, good luck to you,
Speaker 2: good luck to you.
Speaker 1: Finally, we want to say rip to Jane Goodall, legendary
Speaker 1: primatologists who passed away at the age of ninety one
Speaker 1: of Natural Causes, famous for living with chimpanzees. Her research
Speaker 1: was pivotal and proving similarities in primate and human behavior.
Speaker 1: The video that's going viral is a footage of her
Speaker 1: comparing Trump's behavior to male chimps, saying, quote, the same
Speaker 1: sort of behavior as a male chimpanzee will show when
Speaker 1: he is competing for dominance with another They're upright, they swagger,
Speaker 1: they project themselves as really more large and aggressive than
Speaker 1: they may actually be in order to intimidate their rivals.
Speaker 1: But also, like she you know, we like chimpanzees. I
Speaker 1: feel like this is a disservice to her message for
Speaker 1: this to be the thing that's going viral. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: thing that I found it interesting that I did not know.
Speaker 1: Our writer jam pointed out she was very open to
Speaker 1: the idea of bigfoot go on.
Speaker 4: Jane.
Speaker 1: Yes, she once said that during a trip to Ecuador,
Speaker 1: locals recalled seeing six foot tall monkeys with no tails,
Speaker 1: which she speculated could be the last of the Neanderthals.
Speaker 1: This is super interesting. Like this is from the interview.
Speaker 1: We'd flown for two solid hours over unbroken forest in
Speaker 1: a small plane, so just all forest to like think
Speaker 1: of the most remote place you can imagine. We visited
Speaker 1: four tiny little communities, thirty to fifty people, no roads.
Speaker 1: They communicate with each other by means of like in
Speaker 1: the old days it was a town crier. But they
Speaker 1: are hunters and carry the news from one village to another,
Speaker 1: and letters and things like that. So I had an
Speaker 1: interpreter and I said to him, when you next meet
Speaker 1: one of these hunters, could you ask if they've ever
Speaker 1: seen a monkey without a tail. Three of the hunters
Speaker 1: came back and said, oh, yes, we've seen monkeys without tails.
Speaker 1: They walk upright and they're about six feet tall. This
Speaker 1: was an interpreter from the village. He knew nothing about Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: nothing at all. Every single country has its version Yei
Speaker 1: Yawie in Australia, wild Man in China. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's perhaps a myth that stems from maybe
Speaker 1: the last of the Neanderthals. But then is the last
Speaker 1: of the Neanderthals still living in these remote forests? And
Speaker 1: then in another interview she said, there's something I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. I have throughout my life been
Speaker 1: very dismissive of people who believe in Bigfoot, and this
Speaker 1: is very interesting that she's like, yeah, no, I've been
Speaker 1: out there. There could totally be a Bigfoot, right. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so much of the world, so much of the
Speaker 1: oceans we always talk about, but even a lot of
Speaker 1: like the world is pretty unexplored, you know. We we
Speaker 1: have this. The one thing that I feel like I've
Speaker 1: learned as I've gotten more, you know, read more and
Speaker 1: lived more, is we have this myth that I had,
Speaker 1: like when I first started, you know, coming out of
Speaker 1: my like public school education, was that like we have
Speaker 1: the world locked down. There's just like cameras ever we
Speaker 1: know everything, we know what's going on everywhere, and it's
Speaker 1: just not true, just not true. There's so much mystery
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: I mean this definitely, that's that's a good that's a
Speaker 2: good uh good coast sign from Jane good All.
Speaker 1: That's the best coast sign you could probably get.
Speaker 2: And then I wonder how many people.
Speaker 1: Are like fuck Jane. Yeah, I'm sure these are probably
Speaker 1: the last two things she would want people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, Like I mean, did anyone ever ask
Speaker 2: her about the one hundred men versus a gorilla?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure, And I'm sure she didn't deign to.
Speaker 2: She'd be like, oh yeah, She's like, one hundred men
Speaker 2: will get cooked. I wish they have no fucking chance.
Speaker 2: She was. Actually, what's wild is she was going to
Speaker 2: do a tree planting ceremony in Pasadena near Alta Dina
Speaker 2: as like a way to sort of commemorate like the fires.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, like this week. Yeah, and then like she
Speaker 2: just didn't passed away. It was just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well rip, what a life? Uh what a ledge
Speaker 1: true ledge. Yeah. Those are some of the things that
Speaker 1: are trending on this October second, Thursday afternoon. We are
Speaker 1: back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself,
Speaker 1: get the vaccines where you still can't get your flu shots,
Speaker 1: don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
Speaker 1: to you all tomorrow. By bye.
Speaker 2: The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Katherin Law,
Speaker 2: co produced by bay Way, co produced by Victor Wright
Speaker 1: Co written by J M McNabb, and edited and engineered
Speaker 1: by Brian Jeffries