Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys
Speaker 1: on the Pure War Room for incenter news and draft analysis,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Elliot and now your hosts Dane Brugler,
Speaker 1: David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well. We welcome you
Speaker 1: to the Saturday edition of the Draft Show, coming to
Speaker 1: you live from the twenty eighteen NFL Combine. Uh this
Speaker 1: is our last show here in Indianapolis, so we will
Speaker 1: try and put a nice big bow on it for
Speaker 1: everybody out there. We had the quarterbacks, wide receivers and
Speaker 1: tight ends work today, the big money positions that uh,
Speaker 1: I mean some tight ends. Maybe you can make some
Speaker 1: money today with the way they were out there. But
Speaker 1: as always I got my scouting buddies. Dane Brugler, David Hellman,
Speaker 1: Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. I want to open the show
Speaker 1: tonight with though a little bit of sad news. And
Speaker 1: we kind of talked about this last night, and this
Speaker 1: is something that from the experience that we've we've learned
Speaker 1: here at the combine. We talked about this as a
Speaker 1: possibility and it tends to happen when medical are involved.
Speaker 1: And really for the combine, the most important things for
Speaker 1: these teams are the medical checks. You know, they need
Speaker 1: to find out about these players. The health of these players.
Speaker 1: Something that I was worried about last night. I think
Speaker 1: we were all kind of worried about, is is there
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy pop up? Is there something going
Speaker 1: to happen that's going to allow that's not going to
Speaker 1: allow someone to potentially not live their NFL dream. Now
Speaker 1: again where you know, we'll need to see what all
Speaker 1: the tests lead to. But as we get into more information,
Speaker 1: Maurice Hurst, the very talented defensive tackle, the under tackle
Speaker 1: three technique from Michigan, we're hearing from reports, has a
Speaker 1: heart condition and so kind of running some things down.
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter had it today and then I, you know,
Speaker 1: we were just kind of thinking about my guys Shore.
Speaker 1: We talked about it last night and now we have
Speaker 1: a situation like that. But the thoughts are though that
Speaker 1: Hurst is gonna have to they came, they found the condition.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to run some more tests if the
Speaker 1: tests are going to determine whether he in fact can
Speaker 1: continue his career playing football. So for a a young
Speaker 1: man that Dane Brugler in his first mock traff had
Speaker 1: coming to the Dallas Cowboys at eighteen. I think I
Speaker 1: know I had him on the board at the first round.
Speaker 1: I believe Dane had him on the first round. David,
Speaker 1: you'd seen him before. But again, talk about him, Dane,
Speaker 1: talk about the fear we had being here at the combine.
Speaker 1: It's something like this was going to happen, and lo
Speaker 1: and behold, they happened last night. Yeah, and it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: because this is something that's potentially career ending. You know,
Speaker 1: not to be that's not to be over dramatic or anything.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a serious issue. And this isn't a precaution,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's something that teams are really
Speaker 1: worried about. So first and foremost, you just hope the
Speaker 1: best for him as a person. Um, you know, he
Speaker 1: can live a normal life and it's not anything that's
Speaker 1: going to you know, hinder that. But then secondary his
Speaker 1: football career, what's what's gonna happen. Um, you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna get second and third opinions, Uh, you know from
Speaker 1: the best opinions out there. Uh, and try to figure
Speaker 1: this out, and you know, we have this happened, but
Speaker 1: she hasn't thirteam a star Lotu Lelee right when he
Speaker 1: had a hard condition here at the combine, didn't work out,
Speaker 1: got a second opinion and was cleared, and the Panthers
Speaker 1: took him mid first round. So this by no means
Speaker 1: rules out Maurice Hearst from draft consideration at nineteen or
Speaker 1: for any team for that matter. But at this point
Speaker 1: we just hope for the best because it's a guy
Speaker 1: who is trained and dreamt of this opportunity and unfortunately
Speaker 1: he was told and needs to go home because something
Speaker 1: serious could happen. Yeah, he's not gonna work out tomorrow.
Speaker 1: As Dane said, he has left the combine. David just
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunate bit of news. But you know the
Speaker 1: thing that I again, you got some of the best doctors,
Speaker 1: some of the best men and women doctors in the
Speaker 1: country here in Indianapolis, all together under one roof. And
Speaker 1: then you've got all these batteries of battery of tests
Speaker 1: that they run the MRIs and you know, EKGs and
Speaker 1: everything that they could do to these players. And you know,
Speaker 1: they found this and and you know, I believe very
Speaker 1: fortunately that he can now they could say, hey, you've
Speaker 1: got this condition we need to run more tests, so
Speaker 1: he now. I mean it's it's not so much about football,
Speaker 1: it's about it's about your health, is what it really is. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: uh and I mean yeah, echoing Dan everything, just everything
Speaker 1: Danger said. I mean, you want the best for him
Speaker 1: health wise, first of all. I mean, jeez, you know,
Speaker 1: nothing is more important than your health in your life. Obviously,
Speaker 1: um selfishly not to detract from that at all, but
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like one of the themes for
Speaker 1: this week is just like keep taking names off the
Speaker 1: board of options at night for the Cowboys. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's started the week off with Stephen Jones saying nose
Speaker 1: tackle maybe not so much. Um. We we've talked at
Speaker 1: nauseum about how guys like Calvin Ridley, Roquan Smith probably
Speaker 1: won't last that long. You're kind of far down the
Speaker 1: board for some of these blue chip prospects. And then
Speaker 1: a guy that did make sense, you know, they love
Speaker 1: three techniques they got very well could have been there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think Dave's mock was absolutely accurate on that.
Speaker 1: To be fair, he might still be there. Actually, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know enough, but right now can't very well
Speaker 1: right now think that he's an option at nineteen until
Speaker 1: we know more about this. So it's just one more
Speaker 1: situation where you're like, all right, exactly can we talk
Speaker 1: about as a possibility at nineteen? And this is a
Speaker 1: scenario where this isn't like, oh, we can give him
Speaker 1: a third round now, right, Yeah, yeah, if he's either
Speaker 1: going to be right back where he was or he's
Speaker 1: not gonna get dropped. Yeah, either you have him in
Speaker 1: the first round where you originally had him on the board,
Speaker 1: or he's not on your board and won't be considered.
Speaker 1: So this isn't a case where now you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a steal in the fifth round. That's not what this
Speaker 1: is about. Yeah, Okay, Well, let's go to the happier
Speaker 1: side of things today and hopefully thoughts and prayers with
Speaker 1: with Maurice hearchs hopefully everything works out, all right. Had
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks throw today, Yeah, four the five through the
Speaker 1: five top ones. Four the five top quarterbacks, so kind
Speaker 1: of one of those things. It was really baskin Robbin's day.
Speaker 1: Depending on which flavor you really liked. And you know,
Speaker 1: and I know you reached out to some of your
Speaker 1: scouting buddies. We had our own eyes on Uh, you
Speaker 1: know they're in the room, assuming the stadium and how
Speaker 1: things we win. I mean a lot of varying opinions
Speaker 1: of how these quarterbacks were able to navigate the day.
Speaker 1: And I'll open it up to indie thoughts that YouTube
Speaker 1: gentlemen have about you know what we saw. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you kind of alluded to it, already mentioned it,
Speaker 1: but I did. I reached out to one scout us
Speaker 1: it's just one scout's opinion, right, who watched it, and
Speaker 1: he graded him like this number one and this is
Speaker 1: just today how they performed on in Lucas Oil Stadium. Uh,
Speaker 1: throwing the ball Baker Mayfield was wanting. He said he
Speaker 1: was accurate. Quick Next was Josh Allen said, showed some consistency,
Speaker 1: some consistency, which I know is kind of an oxymoron,
Speaker 1: right at some consistencies another way of saying inconsistent but um.
Speaker 1: And then then third was basically a tie between Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen and Lamar Jackson. He said both were underwhelming. So
Speaker 1: take from from that which you will. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: this is just one workout and just one set of eyes. Uh,
Speaker 1: you could ask a different scout maybe a different opinion.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I thought, just you know, watching him,
Speaker 1: watching the workouts myself, I see what he's saying. With
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I thought everything was quick. Uh, basically what
Speaker 1: you see on his tape, he was at his best
Speaker 1: on the slants, and you know when he could lead
Speaker 1: the receiver, he didn't have to think much. It just quick,
Speaker 1: get it out. It's very accurate, uh, Josh Allen, Man,
Speaker 1: he can uncork some just lasers. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's why he's going to be in that top
Speaker 1: fifteen conversation when I don't necessarily think he should be,
Speaker 1: just because I undeveloped you in certain areas of playing
Speaker 1: the position. And then Rose and Jackson neither had the
Speaker 1: best day. I don't think they were bad. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say they were bad, right, but they weren't good either.
Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, I think underwhelming might be
Speaker 1: the West way to put it. Let's go back to
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, David, and if with Baker Mayfield, he's not
Speaker 1: always gonna look pretty mechanically, he's not always gonna do
Speaker 1: the right things. Well, he's like nothing about him is prototypical,
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen, you know yeah, and so you
Speaker 1: mean there's some of the throws that you might have
Speaker 1: seen with him with you know, poor feet, you know,
Speaker 1: poor footwork, opening shoulders, opening hips, things like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe some accuracy. I mean I was talking
Speaker 1: to some guys about it. Maybe throwing a little bit
Speaker 1: better going right than left. I mean, are these things
Speaker 1: though that you're kind of kind of you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to deal with with Baker Mayfield. Yeah. You watch his
Speaker 1: tape and like the Oklahoma offense is geared around Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield his strengths as a player, and so you see
Speaker 1: a lot of seam throws. You know, you see a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, working the running back into the
Speaker 1: passing game. Uh. But you don't see consistent NFL routes.
Speaker 1: And you know that's something we had to We watched
Speaker 1: here at the combine, right, and there were some inconsistent
Speaker 1: moments when he made throws outside the numbers or uh
Speaker 1: you know, he was asked to maybe on some timing routes. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's difficult here, let's be honest. For ye receivers,
Speaker 1: you'd never throw them too absolutely, you know you don't
Speaker 1: have You're not in a game environment where you have
Speaker 1: pads on, and you know, there's there's a clock, there's
Speaker 1: a defense, there's pressure. I mean there's obviously pressure in
Speaker 1: the sense that there's thirty two NFL teams with their
Speaker 1: eyes locked on you in every throw matters, but in
Speaker 1: terms of defensive pressure. So it's something that I think
Speaker 1: you can take things from how the quarterbacks work out,
Speaker 1: but it's not end all, be all that, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: which I mean to steal your line. I feel like
Speaker 1: you say this about everybody, but quarterbacks too. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you didn't like what you saw today, wait for
Speaker 1: the pro day. Yeah, better it could be. And you know,
Speaker 1: and I personally was like, you know, me and my
Speaker 1: you know, the the Josh it was gonna MEU the
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson stuff, you know, and and I and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm really locking in on on Lamar Jackson again. I'm
Speaker 1: proud of him for going out there and throwing. But
Speaker 1: if you do, if you do watch him throw, you know,
Speaker 1: there was that again. It looked like a little bit
Speaker 1: of nervousness with him and the way he played, you know,
Speaker 1: the way I mean I didn't feel like though that
Speaker 1: you know, when you there's things I saw on tape
Speaker 1: that were that were really good, you know, and then
Speaker 1: and then there's some other things you know, mechanically today.
Speaker 1: See that's when there's when there's no rush. When there's
Speaker 1: no rush, that seems to be the hardest thing for
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson to have to deal with. If Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: just has to sit there and drop back, it doesn't
Speaker 1: have me. I mean, he's just got to be accurate
Speaker 1: every throw. And Okay, I've got a I've got a step.
Speaker 1: I've got to you know, I've got to, you know,
Speaker 1: my feet. I'm gonna throw off my back foot. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm gonna have to step up. And
Speaker 1: you know, I thought Daniel Jeremiah hit him pretty good
Speaker 1: today with from the NFL Network about the the in
Speaker 1: throws were good, the comeback throws were good. The stuff
Speaker 1: outside the numbers wasn't so good. That's the same on tape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's in that And that's what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I but I mean, I still, I mean, I love
Speaker 1: the player, I really really do love the player. But
Speaker 1: I say, I think it's hard for him. This is
Speaker 1: a hard environment for him to throw the football in. Well.
Speaker 1: And I think just because he's at his best when
Speaker 1: things are kind of being you know, thrown at him
Speaker 1: while he's moving around and stuff. To Dan's point too,
Speaker 1: I mean that's and I'm not making excuse, I'm not
Speaker 1: making apologies for the kid, but it's it's but I
Speaker 1: just feel like though that he's not gonna shine in
Speaker 1: this setting, like say, Alan was gonna shine with the
Speaker 1: arm strength, where I was gonna go like, this isn't
Speaker 1: this isn't football. And that's why you know, I'm I've
Speaker 1: been pretty firmly anti Josh Allen throughout this whole thing, right,
Speaker 1: I don't trust his resume, YadA YadA, but he comes
Speaker 1: here and he's uncorking, you know, seventy yard throws, like
Speaker 1: this is an event designed for a guy like him,
Speaker 1: like he if he doesn't feel he was gonna win
Speaker 1: the day, just but the arm talent alone. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: you talk about his throws to the numbers don't look
Speaker 1: good Jackson, Well, obviously Alan's are gonna look great. Got
Speaker 1: the talent to do that, which and that's why it's
Speaker 1: so fun and also frustrating because people get so swept
Speaker 1: up in that and I think that's you know, the
Speaker 1: combine gets a bad rap from people who don't really
Speaker 1: follow it because of stuff like that, like you get
Speaker 1: obsessed over workout numbers and the underwear Olympics and all that. Right,
Speaker 1: but it's easy to see how it plays into a
Speaker 1: guy's like that strength, and it's also it's important to
Speaker 1: remember that there's way more to it than that. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, if if any of those guys had
Speaker 1: looked even worse than they already did, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: put a ton of stock in it compared to everything
Speaker 1: else that goes into the evaluation. Did anybody else catch
Speaker 1: your eye, Dane? I mentioned maybe a Mike White, somebody
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, yeah, any of the other quarterbacks kind
Speaker 1: of mean down the line guys or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I mentioned him because again some I just watching him
Speaker 1: a little bit when I got to see him throw though,
Speaker 1: like to say, the accuracy, there's some really some good
Speaker 1: accurate throws, and he made you know, here's a guy
Speaker 1: that we he we had seen. We have a little
Speaker 1: bit of working knowledge with him from the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I've said this, if you know you you're looking
Speaker 1: for a developmental type of quarterback in the fourth, fifth round, right,
Speaker 1: Mike White and Kyle A Lettau Mike Way from Western
Speaker 1: Kentucky Kent and Kyle a Letter from Richmond. Those are
Speaker 1: the two guys I'd be targeting at least. With those
Speaker 1: two guys, you see at worst the ability to be
Speaker 1: a backup and maybe some developmental traits which very timely,
Speaker 1: very timely. Dane Way to go throwing some Cowboys news
Speaker 1: into that one kind a chance to talk to Jerry Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get into a little biting. Came right out
Speaker 1: and saying he was like, we, I mean, you need
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks to go to training camp. We really like
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. But he said he'd like to add a
Speaker 1: third developmental prospect who's not a veteran. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that means a rookie to me. Yeah. Whether whether
Speaker 1: or not the Cowboys spend a draft pick on him,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would guess they're either going
Speaker 1: to draft the guy or find another undrafted free agent
Speaker 1: like Cooper Rush. So he was happy he had those
Speaker 1: compensatories too, because it's gonna allow maybe to grab an
Speaker 1: extra guy or have to move around. If you if
Speaker 1: you see somebody likes well, if I mean if you
Speaker 1: want to get into all that total, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'll get into that in the second half
Speaker 1: of the show. I came away super pumped with what
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said about the draft, you know, from our perspective, right,
Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Yeah, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you might be sitting here thinking, well, kept the Cowboys
Speaker 1: only the quarterback. Where are y'all talking about this? Well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna add a rookie quarterback to this team this year,
Speaker 1: like one way or the other. So it is I mean,
Speaker 1: it's worth it's worth taking a look at. I got
Speaker 1: you there. Okay, Well how about then let's focus in
Speaker 1: now on the receivers. Yeah, you know, and really what
Speaker 1: you saw. And David, I'll start with you. I'll give
Speaker 1: you the opportunity to kind of toot the horn on
Speaker 1: anybody you want to feel like I've done enough horn tooting,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm like, it's to the point where I'm
Speaker 1: worried about oversaturation because of power already there. The the
Speaker 1: DJ Moore train is like flying off the tracks here.
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of I mean, guy, he I
Speaker 1: thought he killed it. What Back in December we were
Speaker 1: moving down the road in the in the bandwagon for
Speaker 1: DJ Moore. All of a sudden, at some point you
Speaker 1: come in, push me out of the driver's seat, takeover.
Speaker 1: Going too slow? Apparently I was, you were going too slow.
Speaker 1: We're trying to get this thing into the station, DJ Moore. Listen.
Speaker 1: And I've mentioned this before my first draft forward he
Speaker 1: came at number thirty overall, my number two wide receiver.
Speaker 1: My first draft forwards about a month old. Now he
Speaker 1: came in two inches taller. Okay, all right, already exceeding expectations,
Speaker 1: and he ran a tenth of a second faster than
Speaker 1: you thought he was going to Yeah, more than a tenth.
Speaker 1: We were talking about it's gonna be four to five
Speaker 1: five right over under that he comes in at four
Speaker 1: to four two also puts up great numbers and the
Speaker 1: broad and the vertu. So this is a guy who
Speaker 1: he crushed the right tape and he comes here and
Speaker 1: he is taller and he's faster. He did which Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm fully mea culpa, like I don't really give you
Speaker 1: about this. I don't really think DJ Moore is an
Speaker 1: option at nineteen, but I mean it's it's worth talking about. Like,
Speaker 1: so sure he's taller than you thought he'd be, he's
Speaker 1: faster than you thought he'd be. What is holding him back?
Speaker 1: And what do you see as his real range as
Speaker 1: a prospect right now? Uh think he's a first round pick. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it's in my mind it's it's been set
Speaker 1: Ridley and more, one, two more. I don't think if
Speaker 1: you told me that he's gonna come off the board
Speaker 1: at twenty two, Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Like so
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big leap to say that
Speaker 1: he should be considered at nineteen. When you talk about
Speaker 1: what you worry about, He's not the best uh in
Speaker 1: contested situations, a guy that's going to do you know,
Speaker 1: uh high point and you know, beat defenders and fifty
Speaker 1: fifty opportunities. Uh, you know, he's not the best in
Speaker 1: those situations. But we're nitpicking here. This is a guy
Speaker 1: who has a lot of things more wives, Yeah, absolutely so. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know there's a lot to like a DJ Moore
Speaker 1: coming in and even more so afterwards. So I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear a lot about DJ More a nineteen.
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if you as the pick. But again,
Speaker 1: he should at least be in consideration because we think
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys will consider a wide receiver in the
Speaker 1: first three rounds and in the first round Ridley or more.
Speaker 1: If Ridley's gone more should at least be in the conference.
Speaker 1: And I ask you a question, absolutely, what if? What
Speaker 1: if on team's boards it's more over Ridley? Is that
Speaker 1: a possibility? Sure? Ridley to me and not? And we
Speaker 1: I understand where you're no, and you understand where I'm
Speaker 1: coming from. I'm telling you why I'm just saying Ridley
Speaker 1: the route running in the play speed or why I
Speaker 1: think he's number one. But when you if a team
Speaker 1: looks at Dj Moore, who's twenty pounds heavier, right and
Speaker 1: is not there's not a big gap between the two
Speaker 1: in terms of play speed. And sure Ridley is at
Speaker 1: a graduate level when it comes to route running, and
Speaker 1: I feel like DJ Moore just got his undergrad So
Speaker 1: it's there's not a huge big you know, he's a
Speaker 1: very good route runner. There's just a little bit of
Speaker 1: a difference. But again, dj Moore twenty pounds heavier, maybe
Speaker 1: you think of him living more durable. A guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna hold up over the middle could do more things
Speaker 1: for you. I think that Calvin Ridley is your ideal,
Speaker 1: Z DJ Moore might be show a little bit more
Speaker 1: versatility across the formation. See, I don't disagree with you
Speaker 1: than the order they have. I was just wondering, is
Speaker 1: there a possibility that if more is the more could
Speaker 1: be the surprise first receiver going off the board. Because
Speaker 1: you do you have to me. Those are the two
Speaker 1: first round guys. Those are those how I would if
Speaker 1: there's gonna be two first there's two first round guys.
Speaker 1: Those are my two first round guys. I think there
Speaker 1: are There are like four positions where I don't think
Speaker 1: there's much debate about the top guy. Running back with
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, right um, I think you can throw a
Speaker 1: guard in there with Quentin Nelson, and then defensive end
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb, and then probably corner with Mega Fitzpatrick. And
Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. I think you look at those,
Speaker 1: I guess Derwin James is safety. So those five that
Speaker 1: there's not much debate about the top player at those positions.
Speaker 1: And I didn't say why receiver because as much as
Speaker 1: I like Calvin Ridley, wouldn't be shocked at all if
Speaker 1: a team preferred DJ Moore because the way he's built
Speaker 1: and maybe a little more versatility to his game. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about then, the second round receivers. I'm sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, I will settle for I'm very content
Speaker 1: with don't think it's going to happen, but it's a
Speaker 1: realistic possibility. I'm very content with that, especially two months
Speaker 1: out from the pos. Don't want to get your hopes
Speaker 1: so exactly after that, which this kind of goes into
Speaker 1: what you were gonna say. We just said we think
Speaker 1: those would be the two first round receivers. If there
Speaker 1: was gonna be a third receiver taken in the first round,
Speaker 1: who do you all think it would be. I'm just
Speaker 1: curious because again we there really have no idea how
Speaker 1: to sort this log jam out. I think there's like
Speaker 1: five names you could like. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: get into. That's this forty yard dash today was j
Speaker 1: Chart you met teams, covet speed. Oh no, you were
Speaker 1: saying all along that if he ran great, that he
Speaker 1: could be right in the mix and the ft roll
Speaker 1: or use the fourth three two to get up a
Speaker 1: to the early twenties draft. I'm just saying, buyer beware,
Speaker 1: there well, sure, absolutely, I'm just saying, no, I get it,
Speaker 1: I get it. Nobody, only the man to your left
Speaker 1: loves lash you more than me, and and and and
Speaker 1: you watch there's there's not more of a heartbreaking player
Speaker 1: than him. And every and every time he's out there
Speaker 1: running around and doing what he's done, I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then let's get and then but like the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: he showed up, not the whole week. Then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he showed up at the game, and I'm thinking, no, Jo,
Speaker 1: this is not a guy I'm used to seeing. You
Speaker 1: just defended Lamar Jackson for being a gamer. DJ comes
Speaker 1: up the lights. No, no, no, no, yeah, I understand,
Speaker 1: I understand. I'm just saying, though, and you're right, you're
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna fall up, and you know what, they might
Speaker 1: fall in love with him over more. If you if
Speaker 1: you want to if you want to be in if
Speaker 1: you want to know reality. Here's the thing with DJ
Speaker 1: Chark is he doesn't need to be a eight catchy
Speaker 1: game guy. He needs to make two explosive plays a
Speaker 1: game and he would justify. But going in the first round,
Speaker 1: he needs to be a three catch one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten yard kind of guy, which is and have a
Speaker 1: you know, average eight yards on punts and you know
Speaker 1: he can do that too. When you brought this up,
Speaker 1: I laughed at you, both of you. We're sitting here
Speaker 1: at the combine and I'm like, yeah, because we play
Speaker 1: every week. But when hey, it's a it's a big picture, right,
Speaker 1: You take the you take the combine, take the stats.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, resume When you add it all together, it
Speaker 1: makes sense. I don't know if it's going to work
Speaker 1: out for the team that does it, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be surprised at all. The NFL covets explosive plays,
Speaker 1: and DJ Chark is abble to create some of those.
Speaker 1: Two other names don't want to talk about as possibilities
Speaker 1: in the first round. Wide receiver. Two guys that you
Speaker 1: know we talk about Calvin really DJ More. I think
Speaker 1: we see those guys as more of number two. Coming
Speaker 1: around with Callaway is that you're about to tell me no, nobody,
Speaker 1: Nobody's Callaway, but you won't even make my board. I
Speaker 1: know who he's gonna talk about because I see him
Speaker 1: highlighted on his computer. Go ahead. Two guys that have
Speaker 1: number one potential Courtland Sutton and Equanimius Saint Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not St Brown, And I think a lot of the rises.
Speaker 1: I think when you look at Saint Brown, it's the
Speaker 1: quarterback play killed him. He had a real quarterback there.
Speaker 1: He might be absolutely being talked about what you will
Speaker 1: about Deshaun Kaiser. But his production as a as a
Speaker 1: sophomore question hire than what he did as a junior
Speaker 1: under Brandon Wimbush. But Saint Brown at that size, I
Speaker 1: mean he's almost six to five. His body's still developing,
Speaker 1: he's still jacked. Uh. He runs really well and he
Speaker 1: makes plays at all levels of the field. And then
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, he had himself a good day dinner. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about it yesterday on the on the show.
Speaker 1: Five two athlete, four or five eight athlete, Right, he
Speaker 1: runs a four or five five right in the middle,
Speaker 1: So you know, I not a bad time for him,
Speaker 1: not a great time. The biggest thing for him, and
Speaker 1: he had good numbers in the short agility drills. Big
Speaker 1: thing for him will just be the route running. Can
Speaker 1: he develop as a route runner and adjust to a
Speaker 1: pro style system. I think it might take a year
Speaker 1: for him. He might have the red shirt, not completely
Speaker 1: red shirt. But I don't think he's gonna live up
Speaker 1: to his status as a top fifty pick as a rookie.
Speaker 1: But year two, year three, that's where you hope Sutton blossoms.
Speaker 1: Does he remind you a little bit with the four
Speaker 1: four or five speed of not getting any faster, not
Speaker 1: getting any quicker? Does it? Does it bother you that
Speaker 1: he's a six three guy two hundred plus pounds and
Speaker 1: he's a four or five five guy. I think he
Speaker 1: can compensate enough with that size and be a power
Speaker 1: forward on the field that he doesn't need to beat
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley with his rounds. He doesn't need to be.
Speaker 1: He just needs to give a little bit of separation
Speaker 1: so his quarterback can have some kind of target. So
Speaker 1: and if he can do that where you know he
Speaker 1: doesn't get hung up on the on press and at that.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see him get bullied a little bit
Speaker 1: for a big guy A little bit? Yeah, But it's
Speaker 1: hard because in college you know no, no, and I.
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm asking you that is because we
Speaker 1: seem to get fooled by that. Again. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can see you went at him. Oh No, I I
Speaker 1: get fooled. I get I got fooled by the big guy.
Speaker 1: If he would have come in here and say he
Speaker 1: would have run four four eight four four seven, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm going with you. But he's yeah, that's no, it's
Speaker 1: not that, it's just the fact. No, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: You even said about the scheme. You've said about the scheme,
Speaker 1: there's a huge jump. Yeah, sure, but I'm talking about
Speaker 1: a six three receiver that runs four five five. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna get any faster? No, But that's I
Speaker 1: don't think you need to. Yeah, I mean that's in
Speaker 1: this league. In this league, you said you just, oh,
Speaker 1: you just have to do just enough to get separation.
Speaker 1: Can he get separation? But I don't think it's an
Speaker 1: athletic thing for him. It's a route running thing. Because
Speaker 1: he performed well in the short agility drills. He has
Speaker 1: some quickness to him, and I think with work in
Speaker 1: improving his routes, he can be in Alan Alshan Jeffrey's
Speaker 1: not a burner, no, but he can do just enough.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think that Alan Jeffrey went from
Speaker 1: being a guy drafted and then and then and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden having to sign a one year
Speaker 1: deal with Philadelphia, and then he got an extension and
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring. Yeah think well after after he
Speaker 1: signed a one year deal. Well, and but I think
Speaker 1: that's more laziness than all that. And that's that's what
Speaker 1: you figure out. What was Sutton? If you think something's
Speaker 1: gonna work at it, if you think that he is
Speaker 1: going to put it into time to reach his potential,
Speaker 1: and then a team will consider him at some point
Speaker 1: in the first round. It's fair. The twenty shuttle was
Speaker 1: four eleven, that's fair. It's a good time between three
Speaker 1: sixty shuttle was eleven o six. You know what, You
Speaker 1: make sense on that, that part of it you make sense.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking I'm just looking at at the at
Speaker 1: the thirty two and a half vertical ten four, broad's okay?
Speaker 1: On that. The three cone was six to five seven.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he doesn't have bus potential, No, no,
Speaker 1: I uh six five seven, Yeah, that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous
Speaker 1: for a guy that size. I mean, what would qut
Speaker 1: have in a three cone? Do you have that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course I had that. But he's a smaller guy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: should be trying to make here, and I have no
Speaker 1: idea what he ran so qut was he ran four
Speaker 1: as official was four four three Cot was three. Okay,
Speaker 1: Yeah for a Suddon, a guy that's you know, thirty pounds, bigger, taller,
Speaker 1: just play that way then yeah, well, and that's again,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's an athletic thing. I think it's
Speaker 1: a route thing and just him being comfortable running a
Speaker 1: full route tree getting the most at the top of
Speaker 1: routes at the stem. It's something I think he's capable.
Speaker 1: He has bus potential. There's no question we both agree there.
Speaker 1: So you're on the on the forty, you're okay with
Speaker 1: that because you're okay because of the three cone and
Speaker 1: the shuttle numbers right exactly. That gives me hope that
Speaker 1: he's not a bad He's not a bad athlete. He
Speaker 1: just needs to be more polished. This is this is
Speaker 1: a goal. I mean, the combine's over for us for
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes. I know there's still a few
Speaker 1: more days, but the goal not And it's not just
Speaker 1: Lakwan Treadwell Brian, But like what we watched from this team,
Speaker 1: you know Dez Bryant's problem. You know, route running is
Speaker 1: in two for these receivers. Sure, and I think that
Speaker 1: that scares you a little bit. It scares me. That's
Speaker 1: I haven't paid a lick of attention to these big
Speaker 1: receivers this entire process because I don't want them. But
Speaker 1: it's not about what I want. And that's so you know, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's a priority. It's a big priority for me to
Speaker 1: figure out. I just a Cowboys feeling. I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: about the National Football League and in separation overall. Here here,
Speaker 1: let's talk about you know, Aggie's your muffs. Christian Kirk
Speaker 1: or his agility numbers. Christian Kirk was seven oh nine
Speaker 1: in the three cone, four to five five in the
Speaker 1: twenty shuttle twelve O three in the sixty twelve O three.
Speaker 1: That is not good. That's almost a full second. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But his you know, his ten yard, his ten yard
Speaker 1: was one five four. It's great. But for a slow receiver,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's getting off it's the it's getting off
Speaker 1: the line. Sure, and that's great, but again that's not
Speaker 1: translating into at the top of the route. Uh. And
Speaker 1: that's Christian Kirk did not have a good day playing simple. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now he has good tape, but he now I have
Speaker 1: a good day. He not tests like we expected unfortunately
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, I just like I said, I just
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be I look at a guy,
Speaker 1: a big guy that runs a four to five five,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, is he gonna get faster? But yeah,
Speaker 1: the shuttle numbers and all that, And again, folks, I
Speaker 1: am not bashing on smun I'm not trying to bash
Speaker 1: on uh you know, the big receivers and all that.
Speaker 1: I just I worry about a little bit. But we'll see.
Speaker 1: He has must potential. We'll see. We'll see about that, Okay.
Speaker 1: Anybody else though, Michael Gallup, I kinda I saw him.
Speaker 1: Any I'm looking at second round guys. I'm looking about
Speaker 1: potential guys. Maybe for the cow was at fifty, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is sudden better he suddenly go in the first round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's probably now with the way you've described him, stuff like,
Speaker 1: he's probably gone before fifty. Is Gallop gone before fifty?
Speaker 1: I don't think so know. But he had a good
Speaker 1: day to day with a four or five one official
Speaker 1: in the forty night, which is a good number for him,
Speaker 1: as six nine five in the three cone, four three
Speaker 1: seven in the twenty shuttle and then eleven eighty four
Speaker 1: in the sixty. Yeah, and you know who I thought
Speaker 1: I had a really good day was Deon Kane h Clemson, Clemson.
Speaker 1: We got some off the field stuff with Deon Kane
Speaker 1: um more injury stuff. But he has some off field
Speaker 1: stuff too, but younger when he was younger, So I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not sure how much of a concern it
Speaker 1: is now. But if you read off his number, yeah,
Speaker 1: eight three quarters hands the first thing I noticed it
Speaker 1: shows because he has a lot of drops. Yeah, four
Speaker 1: four three and the forty official U thirty three and
Speaker 1: a half of the vert, ninety seven on the broad
Speaker 1: six seven one in the three cone, four three seven
Speaker 1: in the twenty shuttle, and eleven seventy eight in the
Speaker 1: sixty Shuttle. Numbers are just kind of there. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: but when you talk about catching the football and stuff today,
Speaker 1: I don't think that was terrible. I don't disagree with
Speaker 1: you on that. Yeah, the film is up and down.
Speaker 1: The drops were you a little bit, But just as
Speaker 1: a a size, speed, strength type of receiver. That's the
Speaker 1: type of guy that you look at on day two
Speaker 1: and you want to develop him and turn him into something.
Speaker 1: So Deon Keane's a name to remember for a day
Speaker 1: two target, Day two targets for sure? There all right, then, uh,
Speaker 1: just gonna again kind of going, is there anybody else though? David?
Speaker 1: Down there? They kind of caught your eye a little
Speaker 1: bit that you that you were interested. I know you're
Speaker 1: on Jerry Jones duty today, so it's probably a little
Speaker 1: unfair for you to, oh, well, I'll actually you know, well,
Speaker 1: I mean Gallup is a guy you know, as always,
Speaker 1: I think of this in terms of the Cowboys, So
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you got your options at nineteen
Speaker 1: and then I'm always looking for fallback options, which is right.
Speaker 1: So Gallup is a guy that has always stood out
Speaker 1: to me. Dane always tells me he's not a not
Speaker 1: a chance at eighty one, which you know, so I'm
Speaker 1: it's fifty reasonable. And then another guy I think, I
Speaker 1: actually this might have been a Twitter question, but I
Speaker 1: don't care. Another guy. You know, I just said I
Speaker 1: haven't paid enough attention to Sutton sat Brown. Another guy
Speaker 1: that falls in that category for me is Pedis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't work out today, so yeah, that was kind
Speaker 1: of a situation. But I'll tell you what. Let me
Speaker 1: let me throw one at you. Then David, let me
Speaker 1: throw another one. Petis Dana and enlighten me on Dylan
Speaker 1: Cantrell from Texas Tech. Okay, and and you know, and
Speaker 1: I initially then when I asked you this, initially I
Speaker 1: think it was you said kind of an h kind
Speaker 1: of an That's how I graded him when I watched
Speaker 1: this film, I thought he was a kind of a
Speaker 1: hybrid receiver Texas Tech. Yeah, six two seven, two twenty six.
Speaker 1: Now what's interesting about him? As the official time is
Speaker 1: four five nine, yeah, in the forty, but then you
Speaker 1: flip him on the on the on the athletic stuff
Speaker 1: thirty eight yeah, thirty eight and a half vertical, ten
Speaker 1: ten broad jump, six five six in the three comb,
Speaker 1: four h three in the twenty shuttle and ten eight
Speaker 1: five in the sixty shuttle. This is now, I gotta
Speaker 1: go watch tape on Dylan can triss for a player
Speaker 1: at six three, two hundred twenty seven pounds, right, he
Speaker 1: crushed it, right, And you're gonna watch his tape and
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of sideline throws? Is it
Speaker 1: gonna be the same thing as like watching Sutton play
Speaker 1: at SMU A little bit with it's kind of screens,
Speaker 1: very very limited route tre a lot of comebacks, yeah,
Speaker 1: come back heavy in that offense. It sounds like you're
Speaker 1: talking about Jaman Moore. Uh yeah, kind of a little
Speaker 1: bit with the way the offense is set up and
Speaker 1: the routes he's asked to run. But he's very efficient,
Speaker 1: strong ball skills. He's used to making catches with a
Speaker 1: receipt with the defender on his hip, so he can
Speaker 1: Separation is gonna be a little bit of an issue,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but he wasn't asked to run you know,
Speaker 1: the sophisticated routes where he could really show that. I
Speaker 1: don't think he wasn't coached up in that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was just you know, simple comebacks where
Speaker 1: it's just timing with him in the quarterback where but
Speaker 1: he did a nice job on those because he wins
Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls with the strong ball skills, he uses
Speaker 1: his body to shield defenders from the ball. Uh. He's
Speaker 1: a one speed guy. You know, you see him down
Speaker 1: the field and there's just there's one gear. But he
Speaker 1: does have that short area quickness, which I didn't think
Speaker 1: he'd put up these numbers, but uh yeah, Dylan controls
Speaker 1: one of my He's a favorite Day three target as
Speaker 1: kind of an h back wide receiver hybrid type of role.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: because I'm comparing a white wide receiver to a white
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But is this guy? Is this guy? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Jordy Nelson was quicker, But is it the
Speaker 1: same kind of guy, the fifty fifty ball winner, the
Speaker 1: guy that has the quickness, the guy that has some
Speaker 1: lateral ability? I mean, is that hell of a comparison. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Again, I'm not trying to compare.
Speaker 1: I'm not just because he's a white wide receiver. I'm
Speaker 1: just sales beast though. Yeah. And second round pick from
Speaker 1: Kansas State though too as well. But pick the number running.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, though. If this guy's catching fifty
Speaker 1: fifty balls, but has he maybe it's a bad comparison. Maybe,
Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking about it. I kind of think
Speaker 1: of Jordy Nelson being that guy that's kind of got
Speaker 1: that the that the quickness and the you know, the ability,
Speaker 1: the route running where he you know, can get a
Speaker 1: little bit, can get open and stuff like that. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's a maybe it's a really bad Ray Nelson. He's
Speaker 1: so savvy and he's so he has such a great
Speaker 1: understanding of how to break down the defender to create
Speaker 1: that separation. I don't think Cantrell's there yet. He's just
Speaker 1: you know, in the Texas Tech offense. Three guys for
Speaker 1: sure right day three. Maybe these times will change that.
Speaker 1: But that's the great eye gave him. Yeah, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just I haven't seen the player. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: asking about the game. And you know, I like him
Speaker 1: best as kind of an H back hybrid, where you know,
Speaker 1: line him up in the backfield, let him run rounds
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, put him in the slot, try
Speaker 1: him in line, see what he can do. I think
Speaker 1: there's some versatility here where he can play outside. He
Speaker 1: was the Z receiver in that Texas Tech offense. He
Speaker 1: can do some things, though. I want to he'd be
Speaker 1: a guy I want to bring my facility, work him out,
Speaker 1: see what you could do with him. If versatility I
Speaker 1: think he has. If he can work out that way,
Speaker 1: that's a guy that I would look to target at
Speaker 1: some point on day three. Okay, I'm looking at Ken
Speaker 1: Garrison right now, ken, Am I good to break this
Speaker 1: thing off? Okay, I could still ramble on for days,
Speaker 1: but I'll probably I will break this thing off when
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Speaker 1: Is the Dallas Cowboy dot com draft. We're back here
Speaker 1: in the twenty eighteen NFL combine. Date Brugler kind of
Speaker 1: got some more information. Little nuggets. Linebackers got some nuggets.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I chance why we got you. I always
Speaker 1: forget what I gotta get. I gotta we gotta get
Speaker 1: everything we can add it before we lose you one
Speaker 1: of these teams. But what do you got? Um? So,
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel linebacker, I got we talked about had a
Speaker 1: formal meeting with the Cowboys. There you go. We know
Speaker 1: this team is gonna be looking at linebackers. Jewel, Wait
Speaker 1: and see what happens when Andy Anthony hitchins. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we know this team will be looking at linebackers. And
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel he uh, he's your prototypical mic. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: instincts are off the charts. The athleticisms okay, not bad,
Speaker 1: not great. Uh, He's not on Sean Lee's level. But
Speaker 1: you see some Sean Lee in his game. You see
Speaker 1: a lot of good tackling space. Yeah. White, the white comparison.
Speaker 1: But you do see that, right, It's it's the instinct
Speaker 1: that's why you draw comp play develop he can diagnose,
Speaker 1: he go uh for a big guy, he kind of
Speaker 1: gets through cracks. He does and he runs through and
Speaker 1: gets the athlete not at all. You put him up
Speaker 1: against Seaquon Barkley one on one and he but but
Speaker 1: he struggled, but but everyone but kind of give everybody.
Speaker 1: You don't think the numbers are going to be off
Speaker 1: the chart tomorrow, No, No, it's just gonna be a
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a steady workout. Yeah, yeah, right, and
Speaker 1: so tape is better than the workout. It's gonna be right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think some of the short area
Speaker 1: he might do better than people expect. For the forty
Speaker 1: probably won't be great, um, but he's a guy three.
Speaker 1: I think we had him at yeah one time at
Speaker 1: number at pick number fifty, Josie Jewel. He's another guy
Speaker 1: should be on the short list, a linebacker that can
Speaker 1: come in and contribute right away. So we didn't get
Speaker 1: a scene at the Senior Bowl. He was getting over
Speaker 1: a sickness then. But he's a guy to keep on
Speaker 1: the radar because the Cowboys are keep the Hawkeye traditional.
Speaker 1: So David take this show over right now. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I completely forgot about that. I was so engrossed in
Speaker 1: the wide receiver conversation. Um, I mean didn't forget. I
Speaker 1: got a questions you do? Um? Which, all right, well,
Speaker 1: let's start and we covered so much wide receiver. Um.
Speaker 1: Any tight end questions exactly? Eric wants to know about
Speaker 1: tight ends that may be climbing into the first round.
Speaker 1: And a follow up because we got a lot of
Speaker 1: question about your favorite Nittany Lyon. Uh, Mike Jick right
Speaker 1: about him? Uh, Matt wants to know if he's a
Speaker 1: consideration at fifties. Talk to me, talk to me about
Speaker 1: first round possibilities for tight ends, not not necessarily for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, just in general. Yeah. And then also, what
Speaker 1: mister Secki did we start with real quick? Yeah, Bran,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this question, but are the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do it? Are the Cowboys? Are they creative enough to
Speaker 1: use a talent? The answer is probably not. Just because
Speaker 1: creative is the question, the answers probably know. He's not
Speaker 1: your traditional in line tight end. That's not how we
Speaker 1: should be used. He's basically an oversized receiver. Right, and
Speaker 1: he's a guy that we know can go up and
Speaker 1: get the ball. He had what forty one and a
Speaker 1: half invert today? Uh four or five four and the
Speaker 1: forty yard dat. He's basically a supersized receiver. That's how
Speaker 1: he should be used. And I want to see him
Speaker 1: in the backfield. I want to see him the slot.
Speaker 1: I want to see him all over the formation. That's
Speaker 1: how we should be used. Would the Cowboys consider a
Speaker 1: player like that when traditionally they don't haven't been open
Speaker 1: minded to a guy like that. I'll tell you what, though,
Speaker 1: they drafted a guy like that, To be honest him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I wish they would. I
Speaker 1: wish this guy would they've drafted fifty two or years ago,
Speaker 1: or three years ago or four years ago. That's this
Speaker 1: is the guy they needed to pick in the second
Speaker 1: round when they were trying to to draft all those
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, this was the guy they needed that
Speaker 1: needed to be on the board. Not not Gavin Escobar.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Gavin Escobar if you're watching from San Diego,
Speaker 1: California or something like that, but yeah, this this is
Speaker 1: the guy that needed to be the one that was selected.
Speaker 1: Anything under a seven and a three cone for a
Speaker 1: tight end is fantastic. And he had a six seven
Speaker 1: six yeah, and a yeah short shuttle of four one
Speaker 1: h number and six yeah, ten nine actually ten nine
Speaker 1: brought forty one and a half on the vertical. Great numbers,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean tweet. But again, the guy
Speaker 1: will not block. He'll try, he'll try, but he will not.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's tough, it is. There's some there's
Speaker 1: some like huh huh some of that to him, And man,
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't put that in the sky refore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just do it when you're typing it go huh okay
Speaker 1: like that darn he got past me. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: I mean, I like you always laugh about my Will Disley,
Speaker 1: who is like a terrible athlete. He's the topposite of
Speaker 1: the exactly as a blocker. Yeah, and that's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying though. This is but we can figure out a
Speaker 1: way to combine the two. We don't need any more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the perfect time, absolutely, and uh, I'll get
Speaker 1: into one more guy too, Hayden Hurst. You brought that
Speaker 1: up yesterday and uh, you know, we had an interesting
Speaker 1: conversation at dinner last night about that, you know, and
Speaker 1: and the table, the table seemed to feel like that,
Speaker 1: you know when you asked me about the yips and
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, I'll take the gag on the
Speaker 1: table turned against me last night. You guys just jumped
Speaker 1: on me like I'd never take that guy? Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? And you know I'm still staying. Hey, Nurst
Speaker 1: tight end he did actually did pretty well today. Four
Speaker 1: six seven is the official time ten foot broad Uh,
Speaker 1: seven one nine in your twenty shuttle, four three seven
Speaker 1: in the short Excuse me, uh when I say that?
Speaker 1: Seven one nine in the three cone, three four three
Speaker 1: seven in the short shuttle, twelve fifteen in the sixty
Speaker 1: show average numbers for a tight end and Dallas Goddard
Speaker 1: did not work out, did not work on that hamstring
Speaker 1: and bowl. But these tight ends, and I tell you
Speaker 1: they all caught the ball well too, though it did
Speaker 1: I thought they did galla drills everything about that and
Speaker 1: a good day Oklahoma. Yeah, Ian Thomas from Indiana, Pete
Speaker 1: Prisco's guy. He came over and wore you and I out.
Speaker 1: We're trying to watch and Prisco sits down and my
Speaker 1: favorite guy is you know, I'm like, Okay, thanks, I've
Speaker 1: said this. I if the Cowboys want to tight end
Speaker 1: in this draft Ian Thomas in the third round, Thomas,
Speaker 1: that's who I would want them to because he doesn't
Speaker 1: need to produce from day one. He's a guy that
Speaker 1: you can grow into a starter. And we're not shocking
Speaker 1: me at all. Five years from now we talking about
Speaker 1: Ian Thomas as the best head end from this group.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I don't disagree with you there.
Speaker 1: Where are you putting these guys? As always? That's what
Speaker 1: I care about. Goddard I think is in the late first.
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst could get in the late first as well.
Speaker 1: Uh with it again with Hurst, there's so many variables
Speaker 1: that teams are talking about. Mark Andrews. By the way,
Speaker 1: you're talking about the age, you talk about the yips,
Speaker 1: you talk about just what is he going to? Where
Speaker 1: is he fit in the offense. Guys the table hate
Speaker 1: the yips. It's just part of the equation. You know,
Speaker 1: think of a math equation for a player for Hayden Hurst,
Speaker 1: and it's just part of the equation. But no, Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews um from Oklahoma basically a slot receiver in Oklahoma's offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he has the size and the skill said of
Speaker 1: an inline guy. He's gonna have to, you know, adjust
Speaker 1: to a blocking role and that's not going to just
Speaker 1: happen overnight. But his time to tie, his time tied
Speaker 1: with a Hurst six seven. Yeah, so you had actually
Speaker 1: Jalen Samuels from North Carolina State had the four to
Speaker 1: five four And he's not really a tight end anymore
Speaker 1: of your h back got to do everything guy, But
Speaker 1: that guy Virginia Tech did. Everybody tried, Bucky Bucky Hodges,
Speaker 1: that guy as a man without a position. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: just I'm no disrespect to Penn State or the Nitney
Speaker 1: Lions or mister Gasecki. Just keep him, keep him away
Speaker 1: from me. How about them on this team? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: It's got nothing to do with him as a player.
Speaker 1: It's a wasted draft pick. It's a wasted draft pick.
Speaker 1: Like the way they like to play and the fact
Speaker 1: that Jason Witten is still playing. You talk about you're
Speaker 1: not scared of the Lakwan Treadwell hangover. I got a
Speaker 1: big time hangover from Gavin Escobarka because that's a top
Speaker 1: fifty pick that played like what felt like half a
Speaker 1: dozen snaps in his career. That's a fair point. I'm
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you want to spend a
Speaker 1: pick on a mid round guy that you think might develop,
Speaker 1: and you need a tight end and you need special
Speaker 1: teamers anyway, fine, I'm not trying to spend a premium
Speaker 1: pick on a tight end until you think people would
Speaker 1: just go nuts at fifty if they hit one of
Speaker 1: these tights. No, I don't think people will go nuts.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people that would like that,
Speaker 1: But me personally, I'm not worrying about that until Jason
Speaker 1: Witten has decided to retire, because until then, I think
Speaker 1: it's a waste of a research. If they let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, if they don't take somebody other than
Speaker 1: uh say Andrews, just Sicky or god or Goderd I
Speaker 1: would say his name around, Godard, Godard, Goddard. If they
Speaker 1: don't take one of those three, is it a wasted pick? No?
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, fifty, there's really only Well Goddard, Hurst,
Speaker 1: Andrew's Kiseki. Yeah, uh possibilities at fifty. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: one of those four I think probably gone. But they
Speaker 1: will take one of those four, then you would kind
Speaker 1: of consider Ian Thomas, that'd be too early for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's a third run player. Can I get
Speaker 1: Ian Thomas at one sixteen? I don't think so. Me personally,
Speaker 1: that's I don't want to eighty one. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to draft the tight end until okay three me which, Hey,
Speaker 1: nobody cares about my opinion. If I'm looking forward guy.
Speaker 1: If I'm looking for a guy in day three and
Speaker 1: he passes the medicals, Chris Herndon from Miami, Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a guy I need to watch. Yeah, Chris Herndon. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he did not work out today twenty one times. The
Speaker 1: weights he is, I need to watch him six o
Speaker 1: three six o three six two fifty three. He's got
Speaker 1: thirty two and seven eight psalms nine and a quarter hands.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've seen him on some flash tape. You
Speaker 1: know when when you watch the tape, he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys like, oh, who's that. He's a good player,
Speaker 1: who's uber twenty three? Right, But again, yeah number twenty three.
Speaker 1: But the knee late in the year. We just what
Speaker 1: the medical staff says. But again, if you can get
Speaker 1: him in the fourth and fifth round because of that, again,
Speaker 1: kind of Dave was saying, you don't need your tight
Speaker 1: end for the season opener, right, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: he's a guy you project forward. The medical staff says, yeah,
Speaker 1: he just needs to rehab and he'll be, you know,
Speaker 1: just as good as new. Right. Yeah, he's a player
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, fifth round, you look out. Uh.
Speaker 1: Dane mentioned this guy yesterday. He actually called him a
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry clone. So that's Luise. Luis wants to know,
Speaker 1: you know, he says that we really aren't talking about
Speaker 1: Trey Quinn. Wants to know why that is. And and
Speaker 1: I guess just more about him and what you think
Speaker 1: about him Patriots is the right, is that our Pots
Speaker 1: guy to have a Patriots visit, which is like the
Speaker 1: most predictable thing ever. I think he's a Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: type of player where the speed's nothing. That's really five five,
Speaker 1: my friend, right, And even on the field, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he runs that fast. Yeah, And so he's
Speaker 1: he's not the fastest guy, but he's his nice job
Speaker 1: of breaking off routes and giving his quarterback a target. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's very sure hands, strong hands. Uh, he can do
Speaker 1: a little bit after the catch. Not a game breaker,
Speaker 1: but he's just not not just a possession guy either.
Speaker 1: Use him over the middle where he can find space
Speaker 1: exposed zones, and that's what he does best. That's what
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry does best. And I think that's what this
Speaker 1: guy can do. Uh So he's a good player, just
Speaker 1: another one of these wide receivers in a loaded wide
Speaker 1: receiver class, which for one nine on your twenty shuttle.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you care, I pretty good. You
Speaker 1: know you kind of you have these subconscious or not
Speaker 1: even subconscious, but you kind of lean certain ways because
Speaker 1: I don't see Trey Quinn fitting what the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: looking for. Two guys on this that you have, you
Speaker 1: have Cole Beasley and you have Ryan Switzer, right, Um,
Speaker 1: I just would imagine the Cowboys, if they draft the receiver,
Speaker 1: are looking more for a guy that's going to play outside.
Speaker 1: So if we're not talking about him, that's probably why
Speaker 1: uh vaughan, uh you know, poorly kept secret. But Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones just kind of threw it out there for us
Speaker 1: today that the Cowboys are going to take a look
Speaker 1: at Byron Jones as a cornerback this year. Kind of figured.
Speaker 1: But it's nice to have somebody important say it for sure? Yeah,
Speaker 1: um so Vaughn wants to know, you know what, what's
Speaker 1: your plan at safety in light of that, I mean,
Speaker 1: if that is officially true. Now I'm taking that at
Speaker 1: face value. Byron's at least going to start the year
Speaker 1: out at cornerback. Pretty damn thin at safety. Um So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking not. I mean, it's probably a
Speaker 1: free agency need, like whether that's you know, a big hey,
Speaker 1: whether it's a whether it's a big name or just
Speaker 1: a body, I don't know, but I would imagine you
Speaker 1: got to sign one. But then in the draft, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I've been, you know, talked so
Speaker 1: much about Derwin James. It seems like something that they
Speaker 1: would be smart to invest in in the first, you know,
Speaker 1: three rounds. What do you think you think? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're the first, I said, I said this off
Speaker 1: the air today, as in love with DJ Moore, as
Speaker 1: I am, I would rather like, I'll I'll trade up
Speaker 1: to get Derwin James and forfeit my fiftieth pick over.
Speaker 1: Like if you told me I could have DJ Moore
Speaker 1: at nineteen, I'd still go after Derwin James at like
Speaker 1: twelve or whatever. I just I think would be dope. Um, Sorry,
Speaker 1: what was your question other than that, I think I
Speaker 1: mean because no, I think we agree Derwin James in
Speaker 1: the first probably in a trade up option. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna honestly, if you're gonna make if you're gonna draft
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna make an impact immediately, like be
Speaker 1: good enough to push for a starting job immediately, it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be by pick fifty. Yeah, because he I mean,
Speaker 1: JJ Wilcox was pick seventy. I think he was pick eighty,
Speaker 1: which is one pick before they picked this year in
Speaker 1: the third and he got on the field as a rookie,
Speaker 1: but he certainly wasn't a difference maker as a rookie.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the ways because Dane always likes
Speaker 1: to talk about safeties that are over two hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know our guy Golden from Tennessee
Speaker 1: measured in a one ninety seven, right, But I'm looking
Speaker 1: at these other guys, the guys that could actually play.
Speaker 1: You know, people ask us a lot about Deshaun Elliott.
Speaker 1: He was two ten. They have Meeka Fitzpatrick at two
Speaker 1: oh four. They have him working with the safeties By
Speaker 1: the way, here at the combine U we've talked about
Speaker 1: let's see some of the guys. Derwin James, you mean him,
Speaker 1: he was two hundred and fifteen pounds, you know when
Speaker 1: you and that's kind of what you think. Justin Reid
Speaker 1: was a guy. A lot of people ask us about
Speaker 1: Justin Reid from Stanford. He was two o seven. But
Speaker 1: you know Monty Watts Texas A and M two o
Speaker 1: two uh Kaiser Kaiser white to eighteen and then your guy,
Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead came in in one hundred and ninety eight.
Speaker 1: Good number for him. So yeah, I mean it's ah
Speaker 1: if you're looking for that guy, Jesse Bates, Jesse Bates,
Speaker 1: I was. I went too far down the list. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry about that day. Jesse Bates came in at two
Speaker 1: hundred pounds on the dot. There you go, uh one,
Speaker 1: sure he was going to reach two fifth or two hundred.
Speaker 1: So yeah, good good day. Did Yeah. You know this
Speaker 1: safety class, we both love our Shawn Golden right, Um,
Speaker 1: but is he a true free safety or is he
Speaker 1: best as a Nichol? I mean I think he can
Speaker 1: do it, but you know who I compared him too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins, and I think that's a I like the
Speaker 1: comparison a lot. I think it makes sense. Um, I
Speaker 1: just compare him because I saw Malcolm Jenkins play at
Speaker 1: Ohio State at corner and now he covers in the slot.
Speaker 1: Now he cover, he covers tight ends. He carries the
Speaker 1: physical player of a versatile, versatile guy. And I think this.
Speaker 1: I think this guy could be a versatil player. I
Speaker 1: agree that's what they're looking for, and they're looking for
Speaker 1: a versatile guy once again. I'm very good. If they
Speaker 1: move Byron Jones, they better find somebody back there. It
Speaker 1: does have a little versatility that could play deep, It
Speaker 1: could play whatever they have to do. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: they can find a way to say, okay, even though
Speaker 1: we're gonna play Byron Jones. I wonder if Byron Jones
Speaker 1: is if they're gonna make this move, is Byron Jones
Speaker 1: gonna start at right corner? Why would you make this
Speaker 1: move if he wasn't gonna start? Oh No, I mean
Speaker 1: that's what I that's the question I have. I think
Speaker 1: the hope would be that he starts, well, as you
Speaker 1: gonna start with Lewis, because Lewis is your right corner.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're reading Tea leaves here, I don't
Speaker 1: have a press release that tells me that. No, I
Speaker 1: know that, I know that. But if Byron Jones, are
Speaker 1: you moving him to be a backup? If I had
Speaker 1: to guess, I think they're preferred. Star three would be
Speaker 1: Byron Cheeto and Jordan Lewis. Lewis and the slot and Scandrick.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're so then you're thinking it okay, You're okay,
Speaker 1: and in like Xavier Woods is now, you're just your
Speaker 1: straight safety and not playing in the slot anymore. That
Speaker 1: would be the goal. I mean, if he's up to it,
Speaker 1: then yes, I mean yeah, if if they could, if
Speaker 1: you could guarantee them that that Xavier Woods is good
Speaker 1: enough to start, they'd probably be elated. And and Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones had some nice things to say about Cavan Frasier
Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods today. But you can't go into a
Speaker 1: season just hoping that that pans out for you, David.
Speaker 1: And then we have just five minutes or so, maybe
Speaker 1: a little more time than we can. I think that
Speaker 1: we're okay. Talk about with Jerry Jones today though, talk
Speaker 1: about what you learned on the bus today of this
Speaker 1: afternoon from the combine I did and stuff all but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on Dallas Cowboys dot com. We talked
Speaker 1: about Byron moving. I mean, there's there's so much stuff
Speaker 1: about Dez that you can go read on the website
Speaker 1: if you need more updates on that. Um, the big
Speaker 1: thing that you know, for the draft show. I just
Speaker 1: love Tier and Jerry talk about how wide open this
Speaker 1: thing is. Actually this plays into another Twitter question we
Speaker 1: got from Paper a guy named Peyton, which will just
Speaker 1: he said, if you're gonna double dip again in this
Speaker 1: draft like you did at cornerback last year, where would
Speaker 1: you do it? And to that point, I just thought
Speaker 1: it was great how Jerry was saying, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't obviously every team has needs, but I don't think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have that glaring need that's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we absolutely have to address that. I mean, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, this is not a bad roster
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, I think they realized that.
Speaker 1: And Jerry basically said, you know, if if if a
Speaker 1: cornerback's the best option, we could draft a cornerback. We're
Speaker 1: we have enough picks and we have a good enough
Speaker 1: roster that we can do things like that to solidify
Speaker 1: our team, whether that means drafting cornerback best player available. Also,
Speaker 1: he noted that you can trade compensatory picks. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are going to be afraid to move
Speaker 1: around in this draft if they think they need to go.
Speaker 1: That's good news for fan. You know, Like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, in recent years you've kind of been able
Speaker 1: to peg a strategy because like they don't have any
Speaker 1: pass rushers or they're letting their secondary go. Like they
Speaker 1: needed to draft defensive backs last year in order to
Speaker 1: field a team this year not so much. So it's
Speaker 1: fascinating to think that there's really no direction that I
Speaker 1: don't think they could go in. Did you even the
Speaker 1: idea the tender on David Irving? Uh, he said that
Speaker 1: they're going to talk to that they want David back
Speaker 1: on the team. But um he he said, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna divulge it at all, which at some point they
Speaker 1: have to. But uh, they have not revealed which round
Speaker 1: they want to put on him yet. Okay, letter one
Speaker 1: or two, let's talk about two. Something that we saw
Speaker 1: today late in the day was Shaquille Griffin and the
Speaker 1: bench press Shakim Shakim, excuse me, brother, Yeah, Griffin, uh
Speaker 1: talk about that today. So that was something you know,
Speaker 1: I mean we uh the time use the prosthetic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the bench. It's amazing reps, really impressive. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's just as you know, we we can't out
Speaker 1: how much energy energy thinks anything he's doing. It's really
Speaker 1: he's really impressive person. It's any impressive player and that's
Speaker 1: why you know you fell in love with them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what final way to get him on the
Speaker 1: team and he'll make a contribution, you know, helped our
Speaker 1: team win a football game. So yeah, eager to see
Speaker 1: on the morrow and drill see how he does. I'm
Speaker 1: expecting a big day for him. Yeah. It seems like
Speaker 1: wherever we go, he's one of the big stories and
Speaker 1: he deserves it with everything that he's overcome and he
Speaker 1: continues to play at a high level and compete at
Speaker 1: a high level. Measured in at six zero zero three
Speaker 1: two twenty seven thirty two and an eighth on the
Speaker 1: arms and nine on the hand. Here's a fun thought
Speaker 1: for you, Brian Um which unfortunately he's such a he's
Speaker 1: such a great guy and I by the way, I
Speaker 1: did one more Repp than Tremaine Edmonds. That's amazing. That's
Speaker 1: six more rips in Orlando Brown. It's Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of teams are gonna feel this way because
Speaker 1: he's such you know, he's such a great guy. Great guy,
Speaker 1: but hey, good football player too. You always talk about
Speaker 1: how confidently you can draft when your GM's the owner
Speaker 1: of the team. Right, He's he's the proverbial right kind
Speaker 1: of guy. He's got the good enough tape to justify
Speaker 1: a draft spot. And you're talking about a team that
Speaker 1: has supreme confidence in its decisions because the general manager
Speaker 1: owns the teams. Certainly wouldn't. I mean, I can very
Speaker 1: easily talk myself into the Cowboys falling in love with
Speaker 1: this guy, not you know, not as they're starting Mike,
Speaker 1: but as they got ten picks. Yeah, well they're not
Speaker 1: if they're if they're hunting wide receivers and Dames give
Speaker 1: you the nugget earlier, they're probably hunting linebackers too. They
Speaker 1: need to be. Yeah, and then tomorrow is which that
Speaker 1: day for the linebacker? Uh? You know, I really liked
Speaker 1: that question from Peyton. Yeah, I think I'd probably double
Speaker 1: up on linebacker in this draft. Um, if you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm the Boys, I don't what do you think
Speaker 1: I think if you could find it, Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: it's when you're when you're double in the compensatory start.
Speaker 1: That's fourth round, fourth or fourth. They picked twice in
Speaker 1: the fourth and twice in the fifth. Yeah, so maybe
Speaker 1: maybe you double up in the fourth on those linebackers
Speaker 1: would be the ideal. Probably not gonna get it, ends
Speaker 1: on who's there to You know, you could convince me
Speaker 1: to pick a linebacker at nineteen if the right one
Speaker 1: was there, I would try to pick one with a
Speaker 1: premium pick, like first, second or third round, and then
Speaker 1: I would try to find a special team's type. Shakeene Griffin,
Speaker 1: guy on you know late on Day three, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot of numbers this week and all that.
Speaker 1: You can't put a number on what he brings to
Speaker 1: a locker room. Sure that is something in itself. Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's gonna fall in love with that. Yeah, you introduced
Speaker 1: him to the locker room and it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: better locker room for it. Now, you don't draft him
Speaker 1: just because of that, right, or you don't overdraft him.
Speaker 1: You watching the tape and he's making play. That's what
Speaker 1: you draft him for. But when you know in the
Speaker 1: fourth round, when maybe there's some other there's a good
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you like, there's this, that might be the
Speaker 1: difference why you take a player like that because of
Speaker 1: what he brings the locker room. The intangibles. Uh, that
Speaker 1: him setting that type of example of playing with that
Speaker 1: heart and passion that rubs off on the rest of
Speaker 1: the team and that'll play well in the locker room
Speaker 1: as well. So that's something that we won't have a
Speaker 1: number four, but is should be heavily considered in the
Speaker 1: draft process. Guys, as we leave Indianapolis for another year,
Speaker 1: just uh, kind of give me a thought or two
Speaker 1: about things you've heard, things you've seen, things you didn't expect,
Speaker 1: something you did expect. Just something that can kind of
Speaker 1: just like I say, put a bow on our time
Speaker 1: here this week. As we spent well, we expected, say,
Speaker 1: Quen Barkley to perform really well, and he did. And
Speaker 1: the great thing is is we still have plenty more
Speaker 1: positions to go. We haven't seen the defensive yet, right,
Speaker 1: no defensive player has tested yet except for the bench
Speaker 1: press Saturday Monday. For that today. Harrison Phillips forty two
Speaker 1: in the bench for US, right a Va forty one
Speaker 1: too ridiculous numbers, great numbers for both, but I'm eager
Speaker 1: to see fiative. I think he's gonna put on a
Speaker 1: show some of these corners. Denzel Ward came in basically
Speaker 1: five eleven, five ten and seven eighths, good length, longer arms,
Speaker 1: and Josh Jackson, so the size is not a worry
Speaker 1: for me. With Denzel Ward, he came in much bigger
Speaker 1: than we expected, sure, and I think he's gonna run
Speaker 1: in the fourth threes. M Dante Jackson LSU he might
Speaker 1: run in the four twos. So we have plenty of
Speaker 1: guys who we have plenty of workout warriors so far.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have more the next two days with a
Speaker 1: defensive linemen and linebackers and then a defensive back. So
Speaker 1: it's been a fun week doing the offense. Still a
Speaker 1: lot more to go to the defense, David uh even
Speaker 1: even including the year when they were picking fourth overall,
Speaker 1: I've never I've never been more intrigued by, like all
Speaker 1: the possibilities that lay in front of this team, and
Speaker 1: like from from evaluating draft guys, getting a closer look
Speaker 1: at him here, and then talking to team of I
Speaker 1: think this is going to be the most interesting spring
Speaker 1: that we've seen here in a while. And I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, like, you know, they're gonna sign
Speaker 1: all these crazy deals and like pull a Giants and
Speaker 1: go spend two hundred million dollars in free agency. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. But there's just stuff this team
Speaker 1: is going to have to do in the next month,
Speaker 1: whether that's Dez Bryant, whether that's filling some holes in
Speaker 1: free agency. The Zach Martin and DeMarcus Lawrence and David
Speaker 1: Irving contract situations are all hanging out there and they
Speaker 1: have to get resolved, probably sooner rather than later. And
Speaker 1: then you've got ten picks in the draft. And like
Speaker 1: I said, I mean, yes, every team has holes, but
Speaker 1: the holes on this team are not as glaring as
Speaker 1: they have been in the past. So one way or another,
Speaker 1: I think you can really significantly improve this team by
Speaker 1: drafting well this year. And so you know, starting when
Speaker 1: we get back and going until when the draft's over.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think it's going to be about
Speaker 1: as active and interesting at two months as we've had
Speaker 1: here in the last you know, in the time that
Speaker 1: I've covered the team, I really think that Jerry Jones said,
Speaker 1: the Philadelphi Eagles winning the Super super Bowl clearly raised
Speaker 1: the bar, yeah for this football team, and I think
Speaker 1: you're going to see a sense of urgency from this team.
Speaker 1: I think that now. It's all the things that Dave
Speaker 1: and Dane have said about this team, whether it's the draft,
Speaker 1: free agency, des Brian stuff. That Philadelphi Eagles winning this
Speaker 1: championship did. It got a lot of people's attention in
Speaker 1: that front office. So again, they're gonna have to have
Speaker 1: an outstanding draft. They're gonna have to make some decisions
Speaker 1: on free agency, and if they bottom fish on some
Speaker 1: free agents, they better find a way not to miss
Speaker 1: on those guys. That's when things the Philadelphi Eagles were
Speaker 1: very good at last year as they hit on some
Speaker 1: of those guys, and the Cowboys can't afford to miss
Speaker 1: got some dead money in that category right now, and
Speaker 1: they don't need to have any of that anymore. So
Speaker 1: it should be an interesting season. As as we head along,
Speaker 1: we're running out of days, we're getting close to the draft.
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