WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ 2018 NFL Combine - Day 4 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:08.080 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.959 on the Pure War Room for incenter news and draft analysis, 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:18.000 Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Elliot and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.040 David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well. We welcome you 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.159 to the Saturday edition of the Draft Show, coming to 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:29.760 you live from the twenty eighteen NFL Combine. Uh this 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.040 is our last show here in Indianapolis, so we will 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.720 try and put a nice big bow on it for 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.839 everybody out there. We had the quarterbacks, wide receivers and 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.519 tight ends work today, the big money positions that uh, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.680 I mean some tight ends. Maybe you can make some 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.160 money today with the way they were out there. But 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.920 as always I got my scouting buddies. Dane Brugler, David Hellman, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.120 Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. I want to open the show 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.640 tonight with though a little bit of sad news. And 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.520 we kind of talked about this last night, and this 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.680 is something that from the experience that we've we've learned 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.600 here at the combine. We talked about this as a 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.360 possibility and it tends to happen when medical are involved. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.840 And really for the combine, the most important things for 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.839 these teams are the medical checks. You know, they need 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.479 to find out about these players. The health of these players. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.440 Something that I was worried about last night. I think 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.200 we were all kind of worried about, is is there 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.760 gonna be a guy pop up? Is there something going 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.200 to happen that's going to allow that's not going to 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.480 allow someone to potentially not live their NFL dream. Now 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.120 again where you know, we'll need to see what all 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.920 the tests lead to. But as we get into more information, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:50.800 Maurice Hurst, the very talented defensive tackle, the under tackle 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:56.400 three technique from Michigan, we're hearing from reports, has a 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:01.280 heart condition and so kind of running some things down. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.680 Adam Schefter had it today and then I, you know, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.840 we were just kind of thinking about my guys Shore. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.720 We talked about it last night and now we have 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:14.360 a situation like that. But the thoughts are though that 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.040 Hurst is gonna have to they came, they found the condition. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.400 He's gonna have to run some more tests if the 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.400 tests are going to determine whether he in fact can 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:29.519 continue his career playing football. So for a a young 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.160 man that Dane Brugler in his first mock traff had 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.079 coming to the Dallas Cowboys at eighteen. I think I 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.440 know I had him on the board at the first round. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.040 I believe Dane had him on the first round. David, 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.600 you'd seen him before. But again, talk about him, Dane, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:49.400 talk about the fear we had being here at the combine. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.280 It's something like this was going to happen, and lo 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.600 and behold, they happened last night. Yeah, and it's unfortunate 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:58.680 because this is something that's potentially career ending. You know, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.600 not to be that's not to be over dramatic or anything. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.160 It's just it's a serious issue. And this isn't a precaution, 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.079 it's a it's a it's something that teams are really 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.720 worried about. So first and foremost, you just hope the 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.600 best for him as a person. Um, you know, he 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.760 can live a normal life and it's not anything that's 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.640 going to you know, hinder that. But then secondary his 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.359 football career, what's what's gonna happen. Um, you know he's 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.960 gonna get second and third opinions, Uh, you know from 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:26.000 the best opinions out there. Uh, and try to figure 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.000 this out, and you know, we have this happened, but 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.120 she hasn't thirteam a star Lotu Lelee right when he 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.359 had a hard condition here at the combine, didn't work out, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.760 got a second opinion and was cleared, and the Panthers 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.160 took him mid first round. So this by no means 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:45.040 rules out Maurice Hearst from draft consideration at nineteen or 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.680 for any team for that matter. But at this point 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.200 we just hope for the best because it's a guy 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:54.080 who is trained and dreamt of this opportunity and unfortunately 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.720 he was told and needs to go home because something 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.160 serious could happen. Yeah, he's not gonna work out tomorrow. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.000 As Dane said, he has left the combine. David just 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.320 you know, unfortunate bit of news. But you know the 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.800 thing that I again, you got some of the best doctors, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.280 some of the best men and women doctors in the 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.040 country here in Indianapolis, all together under one roof. And 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.280 then you've got all these batteries of battery of tests 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.919 that they run the MRIs and you know, EKGs and 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.120 everything that they could do to these players. And you know, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.920 they found this and and you know, I believe very 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.599 fortunately that he can now they could say, hey, you've 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.320 got this condition we need to run more tests, so 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.520 he now. I mean it's it's not so much about football, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.880 it's about it's about your health, is what it really is. Yeah, absolutely, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.920 uh and I mean yeah, echoing Dan everything, just everything 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.280 Danger said. I mean, you want the best for him 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.039 health wise, first of all. I mean, jeez, you know, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.600 nothing is more important than your health in your life. Obviously, 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.920 um selfishly not to detract from that at all, but 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.360 it's just kind of like one of the themes for 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.640 this week is just like keep taking names off the 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.120 board of options at night for the Cowboys. I mean, 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.120 that's started the week off with Stephen Jones saying nose 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.520 tackle maybe not so much. Um. We we've talked at 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.960 nauseum about how guys like Calvin Ridley, Roquan Smith probably 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:13.919 won't last that long. You're kind of far down the 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.440 board for some of these blue chip prospects. And then 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.200 a guy that did make sense, you know, they love 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.400 three techniques they got very well could have been there. Yeah, 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.080 and I think Dave's mock was absolutely accurate on that. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.440 To be fair, he might still be there. Actually, Yeah, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.960 we don't know enough, but right now can't very well 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.640 right now think that he's an option at nineteen until 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.839 we know more about this. So it's just one more 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.840 situation where you're like, all right, exactly can we talk 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.920 about as a possibility at nineteen? And this is a 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.080 scenario where this isn't like, oh, we can give him 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.960 a third round now, right, Yeah, yeah, if he's either 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:48.920 going to be right back where he was or he's 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.800 not gonna get dropped. Yeah, either you have him in 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.760 the first round where you originally had him on the board, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.080 or he's not on your board and won't be considered. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.080 So this isn't a case where now you're gonna get 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:58.840 a steal in the fifth round. That's not what this 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.359 is about. Yeah, Okay, Well, let's go to the happier 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.560 side of things today and hopefully thoughts and prayers with 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.360 with Maurice hearchs hopefully everything works out, all right. Had 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.080 some quarterbacks throw today, Yeah, four the five through the 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.040 five top ones. Four the five top quarterbacks, so kind 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.520 of one of those things. It was really baskin Robbin's day. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.120 Depending on which flavor you really liked. And you know, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.240 and I know you reached out to some of your 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.440 scouting buddies. We had our own eyes on Uh, you 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.040 know they're in the room, assuming the stadium and how 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.000 things we win. I mean a lot of varying opinions 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:37.080 of how these quarterbacks were able to navigate the day. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.720 And I'll open it up to indie thoughts that YouTube 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:45.240 gentlemen have about you know what we saw. Well, yeah, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.400 and you kind of alluded to it, already mentioned it, 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:50.520 but I did. I reached out to one scout us 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.320 it's just one scout's opinion, right, who watched it, and 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.400 he graded him like this number one and this is 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.480 just today how they performed on in Lucas Oil Stadium. Uh, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.839 throwing the ball Baker Mayfield was wanting. He said he 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:07.240 was accurate. Quick Next was Josh Allen said, showed some consistency, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.800 some consistency, which I know is kind of an oxymoron, 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.800 right at some consistencies another way of saying inconsistent but um. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.960 And then then third was basically a tie between Josh 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.880 Rosen and Lamar Jackson. He said both were underwhelming. So 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.840 take from from that which you will. Um, you know, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.840 this is just one workout and just one set of eyes. Uh, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.960 you could ask a different scout maybe a different opinion. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.640 I don't know, but I thought, just you know, watching him, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.400 watching the workouts myself, I see what he's saying. With 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.000 Baker Mayfield, I thought everything was quick. Uh, basically what 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.600 you see on his tape, he was at his best 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.600 on the slants, and you know when he could lead 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.080 the receiver, he didn't have to think much. It just quick, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.280 get it out. It's very accurate, uh, Josh Allen, Man, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.320 he can uncork some just lasers. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Uh. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.880 And that's why he's going to be in that top 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.200 fifteen conversation when I don't necessarily think he should be, 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.160 just because I undeveloped you in certain areas of playing 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.720 the position. And then Rose and Jackson neither had the 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.480 best day. I don't think they were bad. I wouldn't 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.239 say they were bad, right, but they weren't good either. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.920 So it's just, you know, I think underwhelming might be 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.320 the West way to put it. Let's go back to 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:19.400 Baker Mayfield, David, and if with Baker Mayfield, he's not 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.480 always gonna look pretty mechanically, he's not always gonna do 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.040 the right things. Well, he's like nothing about him is prototypical, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.560 you know, Josh Allen, you know yeah, and so you 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.079 mean there's some of the throws that you might have 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.120 seen with him with you know, poor feet, you know, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.840 poor footwork, opening shoulders, opening hips, things like that. I mean, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.800 you know, maybe some accuracy. I mean I was talking 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.360 to some guys about it. Maybe throwing a little bit 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.920 better going right than left. I mean, are these things 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.640 though that you're kind of kind of you're gonna have 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:55.040 to deal with with Baker Mayfield. Yeah. You watch his 0:08:55.160 --> 0:09:00.520 tape and like the Oklahoma offense is geared around Baker 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.240 Mayfield his strengths as a player, and so you see 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.080 a lot of seam throws. You know, you see a 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.120 lot of you know, working the running back into the 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:11.440 passing game. Uh. But you don't see consistent NFL routes. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.199 And you know that's something we had to We watched 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.760 here at the combine, right, and there were some inconsistent 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.120 moments when he made throws outside the numbers or uh 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.520 you know, he was asked to maybe on some timing routes. Uh. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:28.400 And it's difficult here, let's be honest. For ye receivers, 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.240 you'd never throw them too absolutely, you know you don't 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.400 have You're not in a game environment where you have 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.640 pads on, and you know, there's there's a clock, there's 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.560 a defense, there's pressure. I mean there's obviously pressure in 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.679 the sense that there's thirty two NFL teams with their 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.720 eyes locked on you in every throw matters, but in 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.480 terms of defensive pressure. So it's something that I think 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.640 you can take things from how the quarterbacks work out, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.840 but it's not end all, be all that, yeah, exactly, 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.320 which I mean to steal your line. I feel like 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.440 you say this about everybody, but quarterbacks too. I mean, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.560 if you didn't like what you saw today, wait for 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.920 the pro day. Yeah, better it could be. And you know, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.600 and I personally was like, you know, me and my 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.280 you know, the the Josh it was gonna MEU the 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.760 Lamar Jackson stuff, you know, and and I and I'm 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.679 I'm really locking in on on Lamar Jackson again. I'm 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.360 proud of him for going out there and throwing. But 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.320 if you do, if you do watch him throw, you know, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.600 there was that again. It looked like a little bit 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.400 of nervousness with him and the way he played, you know, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.760 the way I mean I didn't feel like though that 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.160 you know, when you there's things I saw on tape 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.000 that were that were really good, you know, and then 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.680 and then there's some other things you know, mechanically today. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.520 See that's when there's when there's no rush. When there's 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.800 no rush, that seems to be the hardest thing for 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.160 Lamar Jackson to have to deal with. If Lamar Jackson 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.920 just has to sit there and drop back, it doesn't 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.840 have me. I mean, he's just got to be accurate 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.640 every throw. And Okay, I've got a I've got a step. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.080 I've got to you know, I've got to, you know, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.360 my feet. I'm gonna throw off my back foot. I'm 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.760 gonna you know, I'm gonna have to step up. And 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.440 you know, I thought Daniel Jeremiah hit him pretty good 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.240 today with from the NFL Network about the the in 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.120 throws were good, the comeback throws were good. The stuff 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.120 outside the numbers wasn't so good. That's the same on tape. Yeah, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.959 and that's in that And that's what I'm saying. I mean, 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.600 I but I mean, I still, I mean, I love 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.559 the player, I really really do love the player. But 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.319 I say, I think it's hard for him. This is 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.719 a hard environment for him to throw the football in. Well. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.520 And I think just because he's at his best when 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.240 things are kind of being you know, thrown at him 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.480 while he's moving around and stuff. To Dan's point too, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.080 I mean that's and I'm not making excuse, I'm not 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.640 making apologies for the kid, but it's it's but I 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.760 just feel like though that he's not gonna shine in 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.280 this setting, like say, Alan was gonna shine with the 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.800 arm strength, where I was gonna go like, this isn't 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.560 this isn't football. And that's why you know, I'm I've 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.160 been pretty firmly anti Josh Allen throughout this whole thing, right, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.319 I don't trust his resume, YadA YadA, but he comes 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.320 here and he's uncorking, you know, seventy yard throws, like 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.920 this is an event designed for a guy like him, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.480 like he if he doesn't feel he was gonna win 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.080 the day, just but the arm talent alone. Yeah, Like 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.959 you talk about his throws to the numbers don't look 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.200 good Jackson, Well, obviously Alan's are gonna look great. Got 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.040 the talent to do that, which and that's why it's 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.360 so fun and also frustrating because people get so swept 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.640 up in that and I think that's you know, the 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.560 combine gets a bad rap from people who don't really 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.840 follow it because of stuff like that, like you get 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.160 obsessed over workout numbers and the underwear Olympics and all that. Right, 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.160 but it's easy to see how it plays into a 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.199 guy's like that strength, and it's also it's important to 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.200 remember that there's way more to it than that. And 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.840 that's you know, if if any of those guys had 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.040 looked even worse than they already did, I'm not gonna 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.280 put a ton of stock in it compared to everything 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.840 else that goes into the evaluation. Did anybody else catch 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.800 your eye, Dane? I mentioned maybe a Mike White, somebody 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.240 like that. Yeah, yeah, any of the other quarterbacks kind 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.400 of mean down the line guys or anything like that. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.880 I mentioned him because again some I just watching him 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.440 a little bit when I got to see him throw though, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.880 like to say, the accuracy, there's some really some good 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.160 accurate throws, and he made you know, here's a guy 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.959 that we he we had seen. We have a little 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.400 bit of working knowledge with him from the Senior Bowl. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.240 And I've said this, if you know you you're looking 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:26.480 for a developmental type of quarterback in the fourth, fifth round, right, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.760 Mike White and Kyle A Lettau Mike Way from Western 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.080 Kentucky Kent and Kyle a Letter from Richmond. Those are 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.120 the two guys I'd be targeting at least. With those 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.800 two guys, you see at worst the ability to be 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.800 a backup and maybe some developmental traits which very timely, 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.000 very timely. Dane Way to go throwing some Cowboys news 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.240 into that one kind a chance to talk to Jerry Jones. Yeah, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.240 he's gonna get into a little biting. Came right out 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.040 and saying he was like, we, I mean, you need 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.480 four quarterbacks to go to training camp. We really like 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.200 Cooper Rush. But he said he'd like to add a 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.920 third developmental prospect who's not a veteran. So yeah, I 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.800 mean that means a rookie to me. Yeah. Whether whether 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.480 or not the Cowboys spend a draft pick on him, 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.240 I don't know, but I would guess they're either going 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.600 to draft the guy or find another undrafted free agent 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.800 like Cooper Rush. So he was happy he had those 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.559 compensatories too, because it's gonna allow maybe to grab an 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.920 extra guy or have to move around. If you if 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.720 you see somebody likes well, if I mean if you 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.720 want to get into all that total, Yeah, I mean, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.560 oh yeah, I'll get into that in the second half 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.600 of the show. I came away super pumped with what 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.280 Jerry Jones said about the draft, you know, from our perspective, right, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.000 we'll get into that. Yeah, but I mean, you know, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.200 you might be sitting here thinking, well, kept the Cowboys 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.040 only the quarterback. Where are y'all talking about this? Well, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.760 they're gonna add a rookie quarterback to this team this year, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.640 like one way or the other. So it is I mean, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.680 it's worth it's worth taking a look at. I got 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.720 you there. Okay, Well how about then let's focus in 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.760 now on the receivers. Yeah, you know, and really what 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.320 you saw. And David, I'll start with you. I'll give 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.440 you the opportunity to kind of toot the horn on 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.600 anybody you want to feel like I've done enough horn tooting, 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.040 like I'm I'm like, it's to the point where I'm 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:02.160 worried about oversaturation because of power already there. The the 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.480 DJ Moore train is like flying off the tracks here. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.560 But it's a lot of I mean, guy, he I 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.960 thought he killed it. What Back in December we were 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.840 moving down the road in the in the bandwagon for 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.160 DJ Moore. All of a sudden, at some point you 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.280 come in, push me out of the driver's seat, takeover. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.120 Going too slow? Apparently I was, you were going too slow. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.960 We're trying to get this thing into the station, DJ Moore. Listen. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.040 And I've mentioned this before my first draft forward he 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.200 came at number thirty overall, my number two wide receiver. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.760 My first draft forwards about a month old. Now he 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.600 came in two inches taller. Okay, all right, already exceeding expectations, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.680 and he ran a tenth of a second faster than 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.720 you thought he was going to Yeah, more than a tenth. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.440 We were talking about it's gonna be four to five 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.040 five right over under that he comes in at four 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.840 to four two also puts up great numbers and the 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.640 broad and the vertu. So this is a guy who 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.200 he crushed the right tape and he comes here and 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.840 he is taller and he's faster. He did which Okay, 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.600 I'm fully mea culpa, like I don't really give you 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.560 about this. I don't really think DJ Moore is an 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.600 option at nineteen, but I mean it's it's worth talking about. Like, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.920 so sure he's taller than you thought he'd be, he's 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.000 faster than you thought he'd be. What is holding him back? 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.080 And what do you see as his real range as 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.680 a prospect right now? Uh think he's a first round pick. Um. 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.760 I think it's in my mind it's it's been set 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.280 Ridley and more, one, two more. I don't think if 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.280 you told me that he's gonna come off the board 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.640 at twenty two, Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Like so 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.360 I don't think it's a big leap to say that 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.040 he should be considered at nineteen. When you talk about 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.520 what you worry about, He's not the best uh in 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.560 contested situations, a guy that's going to do you know, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:49.000 uh high point and you know, beat defenders and fifty 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.560 fifty opportunities. Uh, you know, he's not the best in 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.600 those situations. But we're nitpicking here. This is a guy 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:59.000 who has a lot of things more wives, Yeah, absolutely so. Uh. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:00.960 You know there's a lot to like a DJ Moore 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.120 coming in and even more so afterwards. So I think 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.080 we're gonna hear a lot about DJ More a nineteen. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.720 I'd be surprised if you as the pick. But again, 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.880 he should at least be in consideration because we think 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.040 that the Cowboys will consider a wide receiver in the 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.040 first three rounds and in the first round Ridley or more. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.520 If Ridley's gone more should at least be in the conference. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.919 And I ask you a question, absolutely, what if? What 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.960 if on team's boards it's more over Ridley? Is that 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:30.439 a possibility? Sure? Ridley to me and not? And we 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.640 I understand where you're no, and you understand where I'm 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.199 coming from. I'm telling you why I'm just saying Ridley 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.439 the route running in the play speed or why I 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.640 think he's number one. But when you if a team 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.040 looks at Dj Moore, who's twenty pounds heavier, right and 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.560 is not there's not a big gap between the two 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.760 in terms of play speed. And sure Ridley is at 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.240 a graduate level when it comes to route running, and 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.879 I feel like DJ Moore just got his undergrad So 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.600 it's there's not a huge big you know, he's a 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.639 very good route runner. There's just a little bit of 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.960 a difference. But again, dj Moore twenty pounds heavier, maybe 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.040 you think of him living more durable. A guy that's 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.040 gonna hold up over the middle could do more things 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.119 for you. I think that Calvin Ridley is your ideal, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.720 Z DJ Moore might be show a little bit more 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.959 versatility across the formation. See, I don't disagree with you 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.320 than the order they have. I was just wondering, is 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.400 there a possibility that if more is the more could 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.800 be the surprise first receiver going off the board. Because 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.640 you do you have to me. Those are the two 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.800 first round guys. Those are those how I would if 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.000 there's gonna be two first there's two first round guys. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.840 Those are my two first round guys. I think there 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.000 are There are like four positions where I don't think 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.399 there's much debate about the top guy. Running back with 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.520 Saquon Barkley, right um, I think you can throw a 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.159 guard in there with Quentin Nelson, and then defensive end 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.080 Bradley Chubb, and then probably corner with Mega Fitzpatrick. And 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.680 that's just my opinion. I think you look at those, 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.000 I guess Derwin James is safety. So those five that 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.160 there's not much debate about the top player at those positions. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.280 And I didn't say why receiver because as much as 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.679 I like Calvin Ridley, wouldn't be shocked at all if 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.119 a team preferred DJ Moore because the way he's built 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.440 and maybe a little more versatility to his game. Let's 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.120 talk about then, the second round receivers. I'm sorry, go ahead, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.560 I'm sorry. Yeah, I will settle for I'm very content 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.000 with don't think it's going to happen, but it's a 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.280 realistic possibility. I'm very content with that, especially two months 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:22.720 out from the pos. Don't want to get your hopes 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.040 so exactly after that, which this kind of goes into 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.200 what you were gonna say. We just said we think 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.800 those would be the two first round receivers. If there 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.639 was gonna be a third receiver taken in the first round, 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.240 who do you all think it would be. I'm just 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.920 curious because again we there really have no idea how 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.720 to sort this log jam out. I think there's like 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.879 five names you could like. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.439 get into. That's this forty yard dash today was j 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.560