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Speaker 4: Is eighty three degrees eighty three degrees high, eighty five,

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Speaker 4: eighty five, the low, the low.

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Speaker 3: What's what's up?

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Speaker 4: I got a tour going by all tide.

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Speaker 6: equivalent the broll people.

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Speaker 3: When we speak.

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Speaker 4: Each you every show my wing stop where fever gets

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Speaker 4: its weird, somebody is energized about to leave.

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Speaker 3: He ain't even sitting down.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday. I promise you you got it.

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Speaker 5: That's why he's so excited. He's using it all up.

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Speaker 2: The first notice just that jumped right into it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you're done.

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Speaker 7: I'm done.

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Speaker 3: That's coming from the Panal.

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Speaker 4: Column about that eighty five kids, How we doing today?

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Speaker 3: I haven't even looked Thursday, this thursdaysday?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, good, I haven't even looked at what we're

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Speaker 4: supposed to be doing today.

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Speaker 3: It's Cowboys defense.

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Speaker 5: You want to wing it?

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Speaker 7: Sure, Cowboys defense, Cowboys offense?

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Speaker 8: Cowboys?

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Speaker 3: How was defense?

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Speaker 6: You're right, you're right, Carolina offense, You're right, you're right.

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Speaker 4: You guys ever have a former teammate play against you

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Speaker 4: and go off?

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Speaker 7: No? No, no, I haven't, no, not even well.

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Speaker 8: How you d how you feel about uh?

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Speaker 7: How you feel about Rico?

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Speaker 3: This week?

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Speaker 8: Ready?

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Speaker 5: He said, he's ready. He told everybody to buckle up.

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Speaker 7: They know what's coming to stop. Man. This dude would

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Speaker 7: stare at somebody else all the time.

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Speaker 4: And wave out yeah and you know what, and don't

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Speaker 4: leave his house but twice a year, Yeah, he got

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Speaker 4: that glass.

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Speaker 7: You got to work out way they come to you.

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Speaker 3: What do I think about Rico?

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Speaker 5: Anything to be worried about this week?

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Speaker 6: If you're the Cowboys defense, there's nothing to worry about

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Speaker 6: every week. You know what I'm saying, fair like you

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Speaker 6: haven't done enough on the football field to where people

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Speaker 6: you shouldn't be worried about somebody doing something to you.

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Speaker 3: That's why I laughed.

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Speaker 6: Kenny Clark made a comment when they asked him about

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Speaker 6: what Rico said about buckling up like that, and he

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Speaker 6: was just you know, he made his comment. It was like,

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Speaker 6: you know, they ain't even play nobody like us.

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Speaker 3: And I was like he still thinking and green baby.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what I didn't I didn't know.

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Speaker 6: I know, I'm just I'm asking like like I thought

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Speaker 6: it was first of all to me, it was a

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Speaker 6: two way silly comment, like even for Rico to say it,

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Speaker 6: it's like Rico, you you just got the tuba was healthy, healthy,

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Speaker 6: like you know what I'm saying, like you ain't. And

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Speaker 6: I granted be appreciative and happy of the two on

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Speaker 6: the yard form that you did. It's a national footballer

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Speaker 6: to go for two hundred yards is an accomplishment. But

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Speaker 6: don't talk like you. They don't talk like you prime

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Speaker 6: Saquan or you on a role like Dereck Henry.

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Speaker 3: Now you had a good game. Great.

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Speaker 6: I just thought it was silly both ways, for him

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Speaker 3: To be like, they ain't play nobody like us. I'm

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Speaker 3: like team inside of the ball. You played for a kiddie.

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Speaker 6: So yes, to answer your question, this defense should be

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Speaker 4: Can they seems like they're when they're good on at

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Speaker 4: one aspect, they're terrible with the other. They're either okay

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Speaker 4: they just a bad defense and people are picking how

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Speaker 4: they want to attack them? Or are they Is it

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Speaker 4: one of those things where they can concentrate to shut

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Speaker 4: Because it seems like they do pretty good in one

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Speaker 5: They get torched in the other one.

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Speaker 4: Like if you stop to run the pass game is

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Speaker 4: four hundred yards, if you hold them under three hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a sign of a bad defense. Okay, Like,

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Speaker 3: that's a sign of a bad defense.

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Speaker 6: And because the opposite side of that is what you

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Speaker 6: have offensively, is that if you want to load the box,

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Speaker 6: be my guests, I'm gonna beat you in the head

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Speaker 6: over the top. If you want to drop two safeties back,

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Speaker 6: there be my guest. I'm gonna hand it off to

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Speaker 6: Javonte Williams. We're gonna beat you over the head four

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Speaker 6: hundred and fifty yards rushing.

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Speaker 3: Right So like it's literally jack On Hyde.

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Speaker 6: What the Cowboys have going on right now with how

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Speaker 6: their offenses, I can whoop you up anyway.

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Speaker 3: I want to whoop you up more offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 6: Teams are just picking and choosing how and when they

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Speaker 6: want to do to the Cowboys. Not to bring up

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Speaker 6: old tape, but you know, you go back and you

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Speaker 6: watch the Jets game. If feel could throw, like if

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Speaker 6: he just was a semi accurate thrower, there was I mean,

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Speaker 6: he had the Garrett Wilson touchdown that he missed on

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Speaker 3: It was like a like a skinny post, a glance post.

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Speaker 6: And when Kyrie Elom got beat and Wanya Thomas's way

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Speaker 6: inside and the passes like the it's ten yards like

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Speaker 6: he could just lay it anywhere in the vicinity. He

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Speaker 6: in for like a skinny post. If he just puts

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Speaker 6: or whatever, it's a touchdown. So if a quarterback has

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Speaker 6: and he's my other little Tink Tink. I know I

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Speaker 6: is the other tink. Tank Bryce Young.

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Speaker 2: He a better quarterback than feels that this time or

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Speaker 2: how do you rate him?

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Speaker 6: He is a boy man feels is the better athlete

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Speaker 6: by far, like not even close. I do think I

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Speaker 6: think little tank Tink might be a better processor of

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Speaker 7: So what does that mean for us as a Cowboys team.

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Speaker 6: Then, well, when you when you go when you look

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Speaker 6: at the Keluta Panthers offensively, you kind of like when

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Speaker 6: you when you go through the Rothter, you kind of say,

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Speaker 6: like there's some names on there, right, like you know

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Speaker 6: who Trooper Hubbard is.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know who recal dollars.

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Speaker 6: Then you go, all right, Tynor Royal McMillan, a guy

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Speaker 3: And the Carolina went and got him.

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Speaker 6: Then you go, okay, Hunter Ridfrow, a name that you recognized,

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Speaker 6: you know, a guy who his entire career has been

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Speaker 6: about the ability to run routes.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 6: Then you go over and you got Xavier La get

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Speaker 6: another first round wide receiver that they have there.

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Speaker 3: You look around, you go.

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Speaker 6: You damn you know they got a nice cause they

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Speaker 6: got a nice little stable of wide receivers like pass catchers.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Tight End is not bad, and the offensive line is okay.

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Speaker 6: It's an okay offensive line. It's not It's not something

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Speaker 2: Like, oh well, but so what you're saying is the

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Speaker 2: quarterback is the issue.

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Speaker 6: I'm what I am saying is the quarterback has hasn't

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Speaker 6: hasn't had the ability to get under one offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: And get comfortable in the system.

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Speaker 6: He has been it's been a rotating door with offensive

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Speaker 6: it's been a constant rotation. So he hasn't had a

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Speaker 6: like like what you see with.

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Speaker 3: Brian Schottheimer and Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 6: Now you see you see a cohesiveness between the two

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Speaker 6: then there's a concept that comes along with that. He

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Speaker 6: he just got to the roll miller last year, Xavier

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Speaker 6: la Gett. He's off and on. You know, he didn't

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Speaker 6: his prime. So like he's getting the weapons. It's it

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Speaker 6: needs to kind of still take time to jail and

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Speaker 6: to use your reference. For example, they is this squad

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Speaker 6: they're working through that first four or five game preseason

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Speaker 6: and now you know you saw a really good comeback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw a really good comeback in.

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Speaker 6: In that Miami game where they were down seventeen to

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Speaker 6: nothing and then they mar stairway back in the second half.

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Speaker 6: But you know, tink Tinko do things like he fumbled

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Speaker 6: He just he just throws them like he dropped the

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Speaker 6: interception where he had Xavier Legett. He ran a deep,

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Speaker 3: He just arameiled it right over the top of his head.

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Speaker 6: So like it's those level of plays that you see

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Speaker 6: it's jackuling high for him. He has a little bit

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Speaker 6: he still can throw the ball, but he is processing.

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Speaker 6: He has some some of the most ac and weird

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Speaker 3: You're looking your like, what did you see? Why would

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Speaker 6: And that's what that level of inconsistency with processing, turning

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Speaker 6: that line and receivers and all that kind of stuff

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Speaker 4: He is five feet ten inches tall. For those of

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Speaker 3: Because I did.

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Speaker 4: Before we go to break Jesse, you had a VIP caller.

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Speaker 6: You know, we don't normally do calls on Thursdays, but

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Speaker 4: want to welcome into the show.

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Speaker 3: So our good friend from Kuwait most calling him.

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Speaker 7: How you doing, brought it's up?

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Speaker 9: Hey, I'm fine, I'm fine. Thank you for taking the call.

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Speaker 9: I won't belong, but I want to tell you guys,

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Speaker 9: dimensional because you're helping cancer patients in Kuwait get well.

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Speaker 9: And so I really appreciate that. So now I just

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Speaker 9: want to update Nate on that trip. I showed the

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Speaker 9: California and then to New York and you're going to

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Speaker 9: pay for his food. And I said yeah. She said,

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Speaker 9: we just might take the motor home Nate when it happens.

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Speaker 9: And then she said, uh, and you're gonna go pick

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Speaker 9: She said no, we just fly him to New Jersey

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Speaker 9: really appreciate the gesture, appreciate the call, and I just

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Speaker 9: want to I hope that our Cowboys don't take Carolina

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Speaker 9: for granted this Sunday, because I watched the previews of

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Speaker 9: what they did to Miami. They're not just you know,

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Speaker 9: and I hope you wish you all the best.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the call more. Thank you so much. Man.

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Speaker 9: Mo.

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Speaker 6: You know that we love you here at hanging with

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Speaker 6: the boys, man, and uh, we want you to keep fighting.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna beat this catcher battle. Brother.

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Speaker 6: And because when you tell us something, you got to

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Speaker 6: we can. You can come to the States and come

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Speaker 6: get me off the porch. Don't leave me on the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought I'm not all right. No, appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: What before you go?

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Speaker 6: We need a score, I know, because you won't call

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Speaker 9: Oh wow. Thirty two to twenty seven cowboys nicety.

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Speaker 3: To twenty seven. All right, Mo, we love you, Bobby.

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Speaker 9: MO get well, Thank you, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather see you.

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Speaker 2: See MOA is the only one stick stuck close to

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Speaker 2: You've been dogging the defense, you know. But there remember

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Speaker 2: it was twenty two. Jessys sold everybody on the twenty

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Speaker 2: you know he said twenty seven right.

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Speaker 5: Thirty two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, he's saying our defense when you get

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Speaker 2: chunked on and ran on the lit bit, better buckle

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Speaker 5: I thought you was taking the show.

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Speaker 7: I am wei sho.

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Speaker 5: You did a good job the first eight minutes. I

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Speaker 4: All right, Chris, you got some technical difficulties if that pops.

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Speaker 5: Right up on me, so upset?

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Speaker 4: All right back to it? Are we are we in

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Speaker 4: trouble in the secondary because we've already got a pretty

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Speaker 4: and hasn't practiced, didn't practice yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Is that a cat starters already?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 4: Is that kind of a one of those let's see

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Speaker 4: what we got could be a good thing. Getting the

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Speaker 7: How do you feel about it.

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Speaker 6: Jessum, I mean, I think a lot of the Cowboy

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Speaker 6: Like they've been asking for more wan Ye more Marquise

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Speaker 3: Things like that.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes opportunity presents itself through injury. So we'll see, we'll

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Speaker 6: see what they get with those two guys. I like Jane,

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Speaker 6: It was so and it was unfair, right it was

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Speaker 3: Just sheer size.

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Speaker 6: You're trying to play down, you know, as a star

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Speaker 4: Because they really liked him at safety and Nate, you

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Speaker 7: Yes, I love him a lot of safety.

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Speaker 6: Was like they were they were depleted, and they were like, hey,

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Speaker 5: And are you asking her?

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Speaker 7: Are you telling me? Yeah? It's like if you want

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Speaker 3: Want a job?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Of course you go and do it.

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Speaker 13: And yeah, do you always think you're you're better than

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Speaker 5: Yes, you always think you're better than that.

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Speaker 4: I just need a shot, I just need to I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, like you.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, if you feel like there is a close comparison,

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't believe fat me greasy. Then you

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Speaker 6: Really realize that just really like that out here, it

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Speaker 3: Due to injury.

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Speaker 6: But those who come in and step up, you we

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Speaker 6: what I mean. Shanahaim wasn't here, SHATAHAIMI won here for that,

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Speaker 6: Right, So that part and as a player, you appreciate that, right.

447
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 6: You appreciate the fact that again if I'm backing ceedee

448
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 6: lamb up. As long as he has functioning limbs and

449
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 6: the lung and a heart, he's probably gonna play ahead

450
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 6: of me. But the other guys that were in close proximity.

451
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 6: If coach is saying that, if I keep doing because

452
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 6: you've had I've had coaches say that like hey, if

453
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 6: you do this, this and this, you know we're really

454
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 6: gonna look you're like win, you know what I mean,

455
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 6: Like what do I have to show you? But coach

456
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 6: Schottenheimer has been been true to that. You've seen that

457
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 6: with the you know what, even inserting Nate Thomas in there,

458
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 6: You've seen you know, other guys being benched, whether that's

459
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 6: Kyrie elam or Or or Trayvon Diggs. And so he's

460
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 6: given a lot of guys that opportunity to go in

461
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 6: and show themselves. You know, he put he put Mazi

462
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 6: on the bench first couple of games.

463
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: Then j J.

464
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 6: Toya didn't do what he had to do. So now

465
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 6: he's on the bench and Mazi's in there. So there

466
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 6: is that ability to go out there improve yourself when

467
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 6: gods are injured and he gives you a shot.

468
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Speaker 8: I'm kind of interested to see what they do with Mingo.

469
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 8: He looks like he's about to be ready. He's not

470
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Speaker 8: a starter, obviously.

471
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Speaker 6: But Mingo might give a chance. I think Mingo might

472
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 6: have injured his way out of a situation. And be

473
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 6: honest with you, because when everybody comes back healthy, think

474
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 6: think about that for a second.

475
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: It's crowded. CD going back. We ain't taking reps away

476
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: from him.

477
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 5: Turpin's going back is.

478
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: Turpin has we got picks on the other side.

479
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 6: So he's gonna get old, he gonna get now you've

480
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 6: put Turpin in this thing. He's doing wide receiver stuff now,

481
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 6: so he exists.

482
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: In his own little bubble. You're gonna play him.

483
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 6: And then now if you're talking about the ascension of

484
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 6: Ryan Fllinoy, if that, if that's working for you now,

485
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 6: because I'm already trying to find reps for him. So

486
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 6: now if he goes out and has another good game

487
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 6: against the Paths, I'm not saying have to have one

488
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 6: hundred and fourteen to fifteen yard game, but if you

489
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 6: go out there puts in another sixty five seventy yards. Okay,

490
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 6: Now he jumps in front of Tobert. So now it's

491
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 6: CD Pickings, Turpin, Flinoy, Tobert unless you get rid of Tobert.

492
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: Where does she?

493
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is one of them is

494
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: like a favorite DA spoke highly ony.

495
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that helps.

496
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 6: Fornoy was in that same camp of Tobert when that

497
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 6: makes the call that he needs folks to come out

498
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 6: to the dockyard and throw.

499
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: Those are the dudes who he calls.

500
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 6: You know, Ced he might be in La in Miami

501
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 6: and George might be over here, they'll all come together.

502
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 6: But those who are like on call, on call, on

503
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 6: call for nooy Tobert.

504
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

505
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 6: So, and maybe one of them situations where you know

506
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 6: when to talk about guys opening that window again is

507
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 6: I think Stephen Jones talked about it. It was like,

508
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 6: we we're waiting because if I open up the window,

509
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 6: I have three weeks to decide where this guy goes.

510
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 6: If this guy goes on the roster, somebody has to

511
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 6: come off the roster. So I'm either waiting in the

512
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 6: sense of an injury to happen to develop a ros

513
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 6: that's the spot, or you don't get that, you don't

514
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 6: get your window opened, and you just stay on IR

515
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 6: for the rest of the year.

516
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 3: It happens that way sometime.

517
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: Since we're talking about wide receiver, and we talked a

518
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 4: little bit about this on the Defense yesterday, taking us

519
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: down a rabbit hole. But would you I know, he's

520
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: gonna cost a lot of money, He's probably gonna be

521
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 4: hear in that twenty six twenty eight million range. Would

522
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 4: you just try to lock Pickings up right now? Sign Javonte,

523
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 4: Sign Pickens, and then for the next two years you

524
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: got basically the same group of guys on offense that

525
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 4: you have now that's performing so well.

526
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 6: I'm glad you said that, because this was a topic

527
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 6: that we brought up on my other show and it

528
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 6: revolved around Javante. There was a site that my boy

529
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 6: Jeff Kavanaugh use and it projects the open market of

530
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 6: what it would be for players heading into free agency

531
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six. Right now, playing Javonte Williams three

532
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 6: million dollars, Ye, a little over three million dollars somewhere

533
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 6: in that range, right, three three and a half million dollars.

534
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: At the current pace. Now, this is projecting at.

535
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 6: The current pace, fun site where you're looking at. If

536
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 6: he continues on this trajectory, he's ending the season somewhere

537
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 6: around twelve thirteen to fifteen.

538
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: Hundred yards, okay dollars?

539
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 6: No no, no, but no, no, no, no, and somewhere around

540
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 6: tennis touchdowns.

541
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: Right, you only got five, You got five and five games.

542
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 6: So if again this is all projection, they're saying the

543
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 6: market for Javonte would be thirteen million dollars per year

544
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 6: in free agency.

545
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: And he's young too, right, twenty twenty five.

546
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: Like, he's not an old back. He's got twenty five

547
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: good three four years left him.

548
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 6: And what's different between a guy like he and a

549
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 6: guy like Rico, so to speak. And this is true

550
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 6: because the Cowboys even operate in this way. Rico was

551
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 6: an undrafted free agent. They treat those guys different. I

552
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 6: can tell you that from my own personal experience. Javonte

553
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 6: was a second round pick. Teams look at a guy

554
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 6: who is a second round pick as a guy who

555
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 6: has the high end qualities and traits and attributes that

556
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: can produce the level of what he's producing with now.

557
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 6: So they look at that different. They're willing, they're willing

558
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 6: to spend money on that guy differently. Well, we do

559
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 6: it here. We're talking about Jonathan Mingo. He was a

560
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 6: guy that the Cowboy said, we really liked in the

561
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 6: draft a couple of years ago. We just we couldn't

562
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 6: get up to get him that time. So he went

563
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 6: to Carolina. And you know Russ's history. But you asked

564
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 6: that question, what makes it very interesting to me? And

565
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 6: I said it, and some people didn't like that.

566
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: I said it.

567
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 6: I said, but could the just openly unless you blow

568
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 6: the unless you knock the socks off you you knocked

569
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 6: the socks off David malu Getta mm hm, remember that name?

570
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, remember that name? Who is George Picktt's agent.

571
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 6: Unless you knock the socks off him? Why wouldn't you

572
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 6: wait the free agency?

573
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 5: He's gonna let him go?

574
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't I Why wouldn't not let my client?

575
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 6: No, unless you give me a number that I feel

576
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 6: like what we're going to ask for a free agency,

577
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: I'm not signing now. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm gonna. I'm

578
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 6: gonna tear right now. I'm also looking at to finish

579
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 6: somewhere around ten touchdowns. If I get ten touchdowns and

580
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 6: close to one thousand yards, I'm going outside. But does

581
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 6: the ascension or of Ryan Flinoy cost you, George Picktts. Now,

582
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 6: here's why I say that we know how this ownership

583
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 6: works if Ryan Flinoy continues to show that he's worthy

584
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 6: of having that type of attention. When Jerry comes in

585
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 6: there and they're trying to do the deal and they're

586
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 6: asking for thirty million, twenty nine million, he goes, well,

587
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 6: we got Ryan Flinoy. Why would I give you thirty

588
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 6: when we got Now I'll give you twenty.

589
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: I get you nineteen.

590
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 6: But I got I got McDonald's at home, right, I

591
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 6: got McDonald's at home.

592
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: They talk about the pie, the pie, the pie, the pie,

593
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: the pie I got McDonald's at home.

594
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 6: If floy and essentially essentially you kind of almost it

595
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 6: almost becomes a wash if you don't sign George Pickens

596
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 6: back because what did you send to get him a

597
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 6: third Well, when he goes to free agency where you're

598
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 6: gonna get a compick back, you're gonna get a third

599
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 6: compick back.

600
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: So it's almost like a wash. Right, it's a rental.

601
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 6: You're renting them for a year, right, So it's like,

602
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 6: do you want to see Flinoyd continue to grow and

603
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 6: ball out?

604
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely? It may cost you.

605
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: But if you're but if you're upstairs, don't you look

606
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: at this stretch of games that they've been in and

607
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 4: go If something happens to CD and.

608
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: We're in contention, like.

609
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: Would you rather have the drop off between CD and

610
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: Pickens or the drop off between CD and Flinoyd? Because

611
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he could carry his team like Pickens could.

612
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: If you're in, if you're in a playoff run that

613
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: that would be my mentality. If I'm going in, let's

614
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: just go in. But that's your mentality, right, They've never

615
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: done that. They've done upstairs, right, And the same thing

616
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: goes for you, but they've never had the capital that

617
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: they have now, and I just wish they'd be.

618
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: Like the same thing that I think.

619
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 6: I think the same thing that goes along for Javonte, right,

620
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 6: like Javonte's stepped in and now if again, I'm just

621
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 6: trying to think as if a GM with think and

622
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 6: how I would approach it. When Javonte's representation comes in

623
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 6: and they say, you know, hey, we think we value you,

624
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 6: we want you to be a part of this team,

625
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 6: but we're somewhere around six million per seven million per

626
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 6: maybe I'm just throwing a number out there, and Javante's

627
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 6: crew goes, well, you ain't had a back like this

628
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 6: and some time, we're thinking more along the lines of

629
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 6: eleven twelve.

630
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 7: Right.

631
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: Then they go, well, it wasn't really you. It was

632
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: Clayton Adams. It was his system, offensive line, it was off.

633
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: It was a system that got you this pressure. So

634
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: we could we could pressure you.

635
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 6: Know, we can make another Javante right film off with

636
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 6: the next Javante.

637
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he is. I'm saying that.

638
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 6: That's the approach of that's the bargaining, that's the this

639
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 6: is how this thing works, and Javonte as he should

640
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: as they running back twenty five year old. If he

641
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 6: continues on this and he's twelve thirteen, fourteen fifty yards,

642
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: ten touchdowns, he should also go and test the market

643
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 6: and now see what's what's out there right, and it's

644
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 6: gonna look different than it did the last time he

645
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 6: was out there when he got released from the from

646
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 6: the from the Broncos.

647
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Because you look healthy.

648
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 6: You look back to the guy that the Broncos drafted

649
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 6: in the second round all those years ago. It looks

650
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 6: different for Rico because they look at Rico and they go, eh,

651
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 6: you had a nice year, undrafted guy. There's there's something

652
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: about that undrafted guy that teams look at and they

653
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 6: don't value it. They don't give it the same. It's

654
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 6: almost like it's a one off. Like you're you're supposed

655
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 6: to be in the league, but we ain't paying you

656
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 6: start the money, you know what I'm saying, Like we.

657
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: Ain't, we ain't.

658
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 6: You're an undrafted guy like you ain't doing this for

659
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: three seasons. They had you around there, you was getting

660
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 6: bounced around. They put Pollard in front of you, put Zeke,

661
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 6: they bought old Zeke back was giving him more.

662
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: Reption in front of you.

663
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 6: So they look at that guy like that, but they

664
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 6: look at a second round pick differently.

665
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just look at it as you have an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to have this almost the exact same squad.

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Speaker 7: For two or three years.

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Speaker 4: If you lock a couple of guys up, you got

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Speaker 4: a young offensive line, you got some nice backup pieces,

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Speaker 4: you got a quarterback that's gonna be not playing football

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Speaker 4: like this. Who knows maybe where they are now, maybe

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Speaker 4: ten more years, but he's in his prime the next

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Speaker 4: two or three years. Why not solidify that and then

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Speaker 4: and then go get the defense to help you out

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Speaker 4: on that side of the ball. And you got this

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Speaker 4: piece in place for two or three years just like

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Speaker 4: it is.

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Speaker 6: And then Joey also says, but I got those picks, right,

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Speaker 6: Why pay the guy is high price?

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Speaker 3: Why pay the running back ten million?

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Speaker 5: Likes to gamble?

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Speaker 3: When I got these.

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Speaker 5: Picks, let me go, let me go roll the dice blue.

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Speaker 3: I got phil my foot and I got these picks.

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Speaker 4: Just as a fan, though, I'm like, don't make me guess,

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Speaker 4: just let me go in the next year, knowing what

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Speaker 4: I have, like, just lock them.

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Speaker 5: Up, let me know. What I got.

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Speaker 4: Let me know, I'm good, Don't make me try to

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Speaker 4: figure it out the four Like we are now five

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Speaker 7: All right, we wanna go to the end of it.

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Speaker 4: Chris, I mean, Kurt Well.

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Speaker 8: I had one follow up question you guys were talking about,

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00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 8: do you guys always think they're better than guy in

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00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 8: front of them? And we're seeing this kind of a

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00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 8: little bit right now where James Houston has been your

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Speaker 8: best pass rusher, but he's only getting like twenty five

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Speaker 8: percent of the snap.

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Speaker 7: And that's that's all you needs.

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Speaker 9: That shit.

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Speaker 3: I know people, I know that y'all want James S.

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Speaker 3: Houston full time.

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Speaker 6: He is a hired assassin, Like, don't start trying to

756
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 6: take this young man in the deep waters. Keep him

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Speaker 6: anywhere from eighteen to twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Snaps like and I'm talking about more like eighteen to

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Speaker 3: twenty two.

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Speaker 6: Make it very, very very specific. When he's a small dude,

761
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 6: two hundred and forty one pounds. He's a small dude.

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Speaker 6: And then it keeps the it keeps the offensive line.

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Speaker 6: Guessing I forgot that you say that. I did a

764
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 6: breakdown this morning on James Houston and his pass rush.

765
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 6: How he sets his pass rush up and his past

766
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 6: moves up and you know he lines up in that

767
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 6: wide nine, right, we talk about that wide nine. He's

768
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Speaker 6: lined up out there. He's way out there. Looks like

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Speaker 6: he damn there in the slot, you know what I mean.

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00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 6: Look like he's playing slot calling. He's so far away

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Speaker 6: from the line. But what it does is he he

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Speaker 6: liked the guy who was here before him. Their game

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00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 6: is predicated on speed and then turning speed to power

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Speaker 6: and then turning speed to power to a move right.

775
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Speaker 3: And so how he sets you up is that when.

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Speaker 6: He gets in this wide nine, the left tackle understands

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Speaker 6: and know I got to kick out way out.

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Speaker 3: There, right, So my first kick is one of those.

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Speaker 6: It's a big kickout, and then it's a it's a

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Speaker 6: kickout and then shuffle, shuffle, shuffle to get out there. Well,

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Speaker 6: what happens is when I'm cutting, when he's coming off

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Speaker 6: with that speed and that tackle is kicking out there

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Speaker 6: the wide nine.

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Speaker 3: Speed rush speed. When I say speed to power, go

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Speaker 3: from speed to a bull rush right down the middle

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Speaker 3: of him. Is I want to catch you in a kickstep.

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Speaker 6: I want to because if you get out there and

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Speaker 6: you get set, well, then three twenty five two forty,

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Speaker 6: when you grab.

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Speaker 3: Me an anchor down we dancing. It's a different dance.

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Speaker 3: It ain't. It ain't a smooth dance. It's a dominating dance.

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Speaker 3: I got you now.

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Speaker 6: But if I catch you where that leg is anywhere

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Speaker 6: from that that leg is anywhere from being firmly, that

795
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 6: outside leg is planted anywhere firmly.

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Speaker 3: Than in the ground.

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Speaker 6: Now I can walk you back into the quarterback because

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Speaker 6: I took the power away from you.

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Speaker 3: Because you now you back on your heels.

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Speaker 6: Now ends up happening If I do that once to you,

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00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 6: Now you kick outside even quicker to get set well

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Speaker 6: guess what, I'm up and under right, So now up

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Speaker 6: and under You're like, damn, he got me. He got

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00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: me with the bull, he got me with the This

805
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Speaker 6: they called next one is the ghost, right he comes

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Speaker 6: off that. I'm out there and when I go to

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00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 6: punch Von Miller was you go watch von Miller tape.

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00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 6: It's called the ghost because he'll get right there to

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Speaker 6: you and he'll rip that shoulder and he'll now you

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Speaker 6: see me, and then you go punch and he up

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Speaker 6: under you. Now you don't ghost. So now I don't

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Speaker 6: hit you with the speed the power. I've hit you

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Speaker 6: with the up and under. I've hit you with the ghosts.

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Speaker 6: And then now come with the speed again and I

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Speaker 6: dwight free of you, chop you down, spin off of

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Speaker 6: you back inside. Go watch the Jets tape. It's on

817
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Speaker 6: there that he was doing these moves. So plays two

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Speaker 6: hundred and forty one pounds. But now when you leave

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Speaker 6: him out there for the run plays it don't look

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Speaker 6: at sexy. He just he doesn't have the he doesn't

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Speaker 6: have the bill to do it. So right now he's

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Speaker 6: playing a specific role for you. Defensively leave him there.

823
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Speaker 6: You're not turning this dude into an every down rusher.

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Speaker 6: Make him very specific to win and where you rush him.

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Speaker 6: Put him on the left side, put him on the

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Speaker 6: right side. But keep him in that wheelhouse between eighteen

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Speaker 6: twenty two.

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Speaker 2: I think less than that because he's he was limited yesterday.

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Speaker 7: With a knee.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeh fifteen eighteen at the most. Just be

831
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Speaker 2: very specific with this guy. I'm with you.

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Speaker 7: Just everything you said, you you.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think he think he's comfortable in that

834
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Speaker 8: road roll or guys like, yeah, I'm this guy. I'm gonna,

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Speaker 8: you know, give me those snaps them all out.

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Speaker 6: Or is he saxpayted bills like saxpened, keep me fresh

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Speaker 6: and give it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you keep me fresh.

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Speaker 6: And I got my pressure rate number is up, my

840
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Speaker 6: sack number is up.

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Speaker 3: That's how I get paid.

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00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 6: Now I can go and be and be a martyr

843
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 6: and go get five million over there, eight million over there,

844
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 6: ten million over there.

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Speaker 7: And when we just paid a guy that to come

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Speaker 7: in here.

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00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, like do what Coley's doing. You know what I'm saying.

848
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: Go somewhere and be and be, hey, this is what

849
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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 7: Wow, he looks so weird in that forty two Jerse.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

852
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 6: So I'm telling you, I know people want more of

853
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Speaker 6: James Houston.

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Speaker 3: I hear you. I get it.

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Speaker 6: If you want to see the breakdown. Uh what's today?

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Speaker 6: Today's Wednesday? Yeah, for my Noball Better University segment over

857
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Speaker 6: our DLS, I did a wonderful breakdown I think I

858
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Speaker 6: did on James Houston in his past rushing setup moves.

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Speaker 6: Go check it out, man, it'll be out, It'll be

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Speaker 6: out lit on today.

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Speaker 4: Who is the Was it a safety we had a

862
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Speaker 4: few years back and he was kind of the same

863
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Speaker 4: thing you keep him at about twenty five snaps and

864
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Speaker 4: he was playing.

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Speaker 7: Big old tall dude. Yeah, big o'd tall dude.

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Speaker 4: And then he would get outside of that twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And not is he? Oh Patrick, Patrick Watkins.

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Speaker 4: You know who I'm talking about, because he was really

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Speaker 4: good right in that window.

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Speaker 2: And then DQ guy and brought him in here, gave

871
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Speaker 2: me he started a big safety package. The guy you're

872
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: talking about, that's when we started.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that is he?

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Speaker 5: Macuamum, No, no, are you talking about curse?

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Speaker 7: Not curse curse? Was every down guy.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember who it was, but I remember we

877
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Speaker 4: talked about him on the show, and he was really

878
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Speaker 4: good in that bro.

879
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 7: He was a special team player and what's you called it?

880
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: And then teams got a chance to figure him out,

881
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: and he wanted more money and they didn't pay him,

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Speaker 2: and then he went out on the free market.

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Speaker 7: We heard from since to.

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Speaker 5: Figure that out, sir.

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Speaker 7: That was curse, yeah, curse.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: He started the big safety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was what to call him, straight jacket?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I thought there was somebody we had that

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Speaker 4: was he was more of every down guy. We had

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Speaker 4: a guy that was in the secondary that was kind

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Speaker 4: of in that where you slotted him in a certain

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Speaker 4: amount of plays and he was really good.

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Speaker 5: All right, I want to clear something up so we.

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Speaker 4: Don't get removed from YouTube for bad information.

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Speaker 5: The penal colony myth.

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Speaker 4: There was a brief period in the seventeenth twenties when

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Speaker 4: France's Campaigny Day Indies, the company running Louisiana at the time,

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Speaker 4: sent some convicts, vagrants, and prostitutes to Louisiana to boost population.

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00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: These deportations were small in scale and short lived, more

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00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: like a social experiment than a formal people France quickly

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Speaker 4: realized Louisiana wasn't well suited for forced colonization, and the

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Speaker 4: policy in did so.

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Speaker 5: In short, Louisiana's early history.

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Speaker 4: Included some convict transport, but it was never officially designator

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Speaker 4: operated as a penal colony.

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Speaker 7: That's what Cuba did to Miami.

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Speaker 5: There you go, just to clear that up.

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Speaker 4: So all right, fellas, good stuff tomorrow, predictions, phone calls

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Speaker 4: and other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget our call of y'all.

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Speaker 3: We love you, Love you, mo Chris.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for keeping us on the air.

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Speaker 2: No, thanks for coming us for doing the computer hold

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Speaker 2: on Jesson moyebo and I wanted to see my computer.

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Speaker 5: There you go, Josh, we'll be back.

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Speaker 3: As a company. Coubley right there.

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Speaker 5: Good look ho you review.

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Speaker 3: We out.

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