1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Lifetime, the official athletic country Club of the Minnesota Vikings, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: has something for every member of your family. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Get your family going today at Lifetime, Dot Life, Forward, 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Slash Kids. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: I expect Jordan Adison obviously to make an impact. I 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: think he's as a route runner and as a player, 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: he's a little bit further ahead than a lot of rookies. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely more refined. Him having an office 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: in that building for as long as he did, even 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: when he wasn't the head coach, he left his mark 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: on this franchise. And you know there aren't many like him. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: What is going on? Vikings fans? 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: Happy, happy post Memorial Day week as we welcome you 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: inside the TCO Radio studio here in Egan. My name 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: is Gabe Henderson. I'm alongside Jade Nelson and producer Eric 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Davison on the phone on the call right now. Joining 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: us today for our show is Vikings analyst mister Peter Burst. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: It's Pete. 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: Have you eaten enough hot dogs and hamburgers this weekend? 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: Like you were sounding a little groggy when you were 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: talking before we started recording. 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the bad food hangover. I mean that's kind 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: of isn't that what you do over you know, Memorial Day. 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you pay your respects and then you 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: just kind of eat yourself silly. So yeah, it's it's 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: become it's Americana. And yeah, it's something weird about when 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: you get a Friday off, right, you know, it's like 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: it's just like an early weekend. But when you get 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: that Monday off and then it's Tuesday, it's like Tuesday 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: like a Monday, and it's even worse than a Monday. Right, 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Tuesday with Monday off, I think is worse than just 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: going in with a Monday. It's like a double whammy 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning. 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thoroughly expect myself to be off for about 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: the next two weeks trying to figure out what day 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: it is. 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I know it's but it is what it is. I'll 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: take it. I'm not complaining, don't get you know, don't 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: get me wrong. 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: Pete Pete as a as a former player and a 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: former coach for the Vikings. This you know, post Memorial 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Day or post Memorial Tuesday, Like, was that I put 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: it this way as a coach? 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: Was it? 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: I guess a test day for the players to see 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: how much they eat and drink over the weekend, like, 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: do you put them through that conditioning test? 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, we I mean back in the day, it was 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: we had about two weeks, you know, about ten days 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: in June and you had a mini camp and really 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: that was it. Memorial Day weekend was you know, as 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: a player, that was kind of it, you know what 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, Memorial Day and then now 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: it's June and July, so it's work time. The worst 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: is the fourth As a player, the worst was the 56 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: fourth of July because you go out and watch the fireworks, 57 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: and then when the fireworks are done, you're like, okay, 58 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I got like two or three weeks to go to 59 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: get ready for training camp. I mean it was rough. 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: Now for a coach, you're just trying to get the 61 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: middle of June ish, so you had that month off, right, 62 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: you get that, you get that nice vacation. So Memorial 63 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Days just kind of getting everything ready, you know, for 64 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: as a coach, to get to get your month off, 65 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: to figure out where you're gonna go, what you're gonna do. 66 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: But you know, with the players, it's if you have 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: somebody who's off, you know, let's say one way or 68 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: another needs to get some things done. At least now 69 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: in the beginning of June. They can have, you know, 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: two months or so to work on it, right. If 71 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: a guy's a little bit heavy, not heavy enough, you know, 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 1: still rehabbing, but you know, so it's a good time 73 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: to get that evaluation in and sit down and say, 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: all right, you've got you know, eight weeks before training 75 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: camp starts. Let's you know, what are you going to 76 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: do and how you're gonna get yourself ready for day one. 77 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: So it's a good it's a good check time because 78 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: you still have you still have some time to correct it, right. 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: It's not like your meeting if you've had a practice 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: sometime in July and some you guy guys with problems 81 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: or guys that aren' where they're supposed to be, it's 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: on it's really too late. 83 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: It's one of those things too, Pete. I gotta believe 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: like even as the coaches look at it, you know, 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: that's like what twenty two to twenty eight week grind 86 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: after you guys get back and really get going. As 87 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: a former coach looking at this time of year, even 88 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: just with the mental side for the coaching staff, kind 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: of what are they going through in that process. Once 90 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: OTA is a mini camp and everything are done, everyone 91 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: just kind of looks at it typically as the five 92 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: to six weeks, Oh, you're off and then you just 93 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: come back for camp. What are the coaches and those 94 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: guys kind of going through during that off time as well? 95 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Well, it's truly off time, you know, and people and 96 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: you're right about that. Jay is saying, you know why 97 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: you get a whole month off. It's like, well, no, 98 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: because you don't get any you know, once the season starts, 99 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: you don't get any days off. Any You might there 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: might be with the schedule the way it is now, 101 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: you might catch a day or two during the season 102 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: maybe to truly have a day off to not be 103 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: in the building, But basically you're there every day. I mean, man, 104 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: you know you're there from seven in the morning till 105 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: whatever time at night, you know, midnight, whatever time it 106 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: is to get everything done. And right now you're just 107 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: getting everything ready for training camp. You're making sure before 108 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: you leave on vacation that every you have an outline 109 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: for every single practice. You know exactly what's being installed 110 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: in every period right now for training camp. Will it 111 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: change when you get there. Of course everything you know, 112 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: things change, But as a position coach, I had every 113 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: single every single drill that we did right, every single 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: drill that you did in an individual during training camp 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: written down and then you had them inserted to make 116 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: sure that you covered everything, every little scenario, every technique, 117 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: everything you wanted to and you wrote it out. You 118 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: had it all laid out for the next you know, 119 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: for the six weeks of training camp, including pre season, 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: and so that's how that's how prepared you were. So 121 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: when you left in the middle you know, middle of 122 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: June and got back in the middle of July, you 123 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: were ready to go. There was no there was no 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: work to do. When you showed up on July, it 125 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: was just let's get everything in boxes to move, which 126 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to do now. But from when from 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the minute training camp started, you had every single minute 128 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: for the next six weeks planned out. You knew every 129 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: every practice, every meeting, everything. It's an unbelievable amount of preparation. 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: So when you take that month off, there's really nothing 131 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: to do with there shouldn't be anything to. 132 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: Do sure and I you know, I've talked about this 133 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: before in the past. Given other guests and stuff. But 134 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 4: I just it always sticks out to me. There's a 135 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 4: former coach that we had on this team. They were 136 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 4: talking about the kind of difference of having summer off 137 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: versus the other times they were they had played in 138 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: San Francisco ended up becoming coming friendly with Barry Bonds 139 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: at the time was hanging out Fourth of July week, 140 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 4: you know, with Barry hitting batting practice, and Barry just 141 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: looked at him said, man, I wish I had your schedule. 142 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 4: You guys get the summers off, you get to do 143 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: whatever you want that way. And he just looked at 144 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: Barry and said, well, I wish I had your you know, 145 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: timeframe as well. 146 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: Berry's like, why is that? 147 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 4: And he said, we get Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's all 148 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, and it's all just kind of cynical. 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: But when it comes to that time a year, I 150 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: think between the coaches, players and everybody, especially during this 151 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 4: upcoming I guess two months of June and July, you've 152 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: got to take advantage of it whenever you get the chance. 153 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do, I mean you really do. And as 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: a coach, you know you have families and you have 155 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: lives too, right, So you have to understand as a coach, 156 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,559 Speaker 1: if somebody's getting married in the fall, you're not going. 157 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: If somebody has a baby in the fall, you're not going. 158 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: If anything happens in the fall, I mean, you know, 159 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking funerals too. I mean, there's your wife. You 160 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: don't do anything. I mean, you don't do anything but 161 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: football for you know, twenty one weeks or twenty two weeks, 162 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: however that season goes or maybe longer, and then you 163 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: attack on the preseason before that. So you know, you 164 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: you are, you have a job and you do that 165 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: job and that's all you do. And so it's it's 166 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, one hundred percent on. Uh So when these 167 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: guys get that that you know, that month off, it's 168 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: you need to be one off too. But that's you know, 169 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: that's the other that's the other kind of side of 170 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: it is is which I think has changed too. And 171 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't know people dread camp like be used to. 172 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: You know, there was a time, I mean, you know, 173 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: camp was you would go to bed the night before 174 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: training camp and you would think, this is the best 175 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to feel for the next six month. Right 176 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: you lay there and you're like, okay, this is it 177 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: for the next six months. I'm not gonna I'm never 178 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: gonna feel this good again. Yeah. So you that dread 179 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: starts to creep in a little bit and then you 180 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: start getting excited, and you know, you know, there's a 181 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: lot at Steak. I mean for coaches too. Your job's 182 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: at Steak, so you have to produce, and so it's 183 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: a it's a it's an environment unlike any other I've 184 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: ever been involved in. 185 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: Pee You know who who probably deserves this break or 186 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: he wants his break more than any anybody. 187 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: These rookies. Me too, Yeah, me too. I could I 188 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: could use. 189 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 3: A little bit of a break. But having Jay and 190 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: Eric and here, I feel like I'm in good peace. 191 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: They're not as loud as my house right now. 192 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: But yeah they do. Is you know, I mean, you 193 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head, but that one, 194 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: because you think about it, it's been for them, it's 195 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: been it's been twelve months of constant go, go, go right, 196 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean you think about it twelve months. So is 197 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: because a year ago they're getting ready to go their 198 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: senior years in college, and you play that whole season 199 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: and then when that season is over, you go right, 200 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: to what You go right to Senior Bowl and you know, 201 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: postseason bowl games, and then after that you get yourself ready. 202 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: You're training specifically for the Combine and then you go 203 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: through all that, and then after the Combine, you got 204 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: to get yourself ready for the PRODA and then get 205 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: the draft, and then you get drafted and you're like, oh, yeah, 206 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: that was my goal. I did it. And then it's 207 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: like you jump on a plane. You walk into a 208 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: meeting room full of guys who are just hitting themselves, 209 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: starting again, started again, who have had you know, they're done. 210 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: You know they had January, February, March. They were cleaning 211 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: their heads and getting everything out of their minds and 212 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: then oh, by the way, you get hit with the 213 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: whole entire new playbook, whole entire new team. You can't 214 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: study enough, you can't learn enough, and you have you 215 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: hit that. So it's that's why these guys have a 216 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: tendency mid late season mentally to struggle and sometimes physically 217 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: because it is you know, I had the opportunity to 218 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: speak to the incoming rookie class less with less Pico 219 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: and they did it. Kind of an event just for 220 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: those guys, and that's you know, you tell them this 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: is this is the worst year of your football life. 222 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm talking about your football life. This is it, this, this, 223 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: this next, you know, eighteen eighteen weeks, you know camp 224 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: and all that, but the regular season, yeah, this is 225 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: the worst because you're, uh, you know, mentally, you have 226 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: to you have to watch film, you have to do 227 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: extra work. You know, college, if you had the same staff, 228 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: yeah you knew what was going on, you could get 229 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: out of there early or whatever. But now you you know, 230 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: you you can't do you can't need enough, you can't 231 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: watch enough film your rookie year. So it's a mental 232 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a big mental hit too. And and they just 233 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: got to find a way to get through it because 234 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: it only gets easier after that. You know. It's just 235 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: when you go to camp and know what to expect, 236 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: when you know what to expect in the preseason, you 237 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: know what to expect opening day, you know what to 238 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: expect on that first Monday night game. You know what 239 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: to expect come playoff time. Right, you just have you 240 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: settle in and you you know, you learn, and going 241 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: into your second year, you know so much more than 242 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: you did a month ago. You just got to keep building. 243 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that rookie year sucks, and it's not 244 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: and it's not even there's no hazing anymore, right, there's 245 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to worry about going out 246 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: to your car and it not starting or you know 247 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, because the battery has been disconnected. But 248 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about singing your school fight 249 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: song at lunchtime or at dinner. You know, you don't 250 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: have to worry about being taped up to the goalpost. 251 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about basoline and your helmet, 252 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about you know all, you know, 253 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: all those all the things that we had to deal 254 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: with as a rookie. 255 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: Plus like with those guys, you know, you're just talking 256 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: about a little bit too with their kind of the 257 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: season itself. Once you get past that week ten, all 258 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: of a sudden they're kind of in no man's Landers 259 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: are used to playing like, you know, ten game seasons, 260 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you have an entire second 261 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: half of the season to go. Let alone the you know, 262 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 4: flexing of Thursday night games and everything else that's on 263 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 4: the horizon here this season, right, So and. 264 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: Jay, Yeah, to your point, I mean just being physically 265 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: ready for twenty some weeks. Yeah, it's yeah, I mean mentally, 266 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, how do you get yourself you play? You know, 267 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: when you play seventeen games, you're not going to feel 268 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: great at ten o'clock in the morning on a Sunday 269 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: for every game. No, right when you go when you 270 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: walk into that locker room, Well, that's you're just not 271 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: gonna So you have to find a way to get 272 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: yourself ready. 273 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: That's the old adage of are you hurt or are 274 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: you injured? 275 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Right now? 276 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: There's a difference there, and it's exactly like you said, 277 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: if it's the whole thing mentality wise, mentally just saying 278 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: like you got to get used to the discomfort of 279 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: just not feeling one hundred percent, And that's where having 280 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 4: a late by I think is going to be beneficial 281 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: with that. I also think it's one of the things 282 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: when you look at the veterans and you understand when 283 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: they were walking in with like you know, hyperbaric pants 284 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: and stuff like that, just to try to help themselves 285 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: do whatever they could to recoup during training camp. The 286 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: idea then is going to be, you know, literally twenty 287 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: weeks from now that might be paying dividends. So it's 288 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: you understand, especially with the veterans, so much of it 289 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: turns into body maintenance. I just remember, you know, Kendrick's 290 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: talking about how he's like, yeah, I get a massage 291 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 4: on Monday and Tuesday, and everyone's like, oh, that sounds great, and. 292 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: He goes it's the worst. 293 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: It's the worst couple hours of my week because he's like, 294 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: this isn't one of those like you go in and relax. 295 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: This is one of those like they're going to be 296 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: digging deep tissue, thessage type stuff. And so for those guys, 297 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: it's just getting into their routine to figure out whatever 298 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: they can do to get their body back into shape 299 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: as fast as possible. 300 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: No, you're right. And when it comes to stuff like 301 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: ice tubs and you know you have to start doing 302 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: that before. If you wait until you start, if you 303 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: wait until your you know your legs are tired and 304 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: you're sore to start doing some of those things, it's 305 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: too late, right. 306 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: Pete, What did you why did you wait so long? 307 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: What do you mean? Well, Black, when I played, we 308 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: didn't have ice, it was true, Yeah, we didn't have 309 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: we didn't have ice. We didn't have tubs actually any 310 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: of that stuff. 311 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: You kind of did in Minnesota at least at the 312 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: back end of the season. 313 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: You just go to some snow and. 314 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: But that's sim That's that's what it was. 315 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: Speaking of the rookies, though, Pete, you had a chance 316 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: to break down every single rookie that was drafted in 317 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: this year's draft class that's on Bikings dot. 318 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: Com right now. 319 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: And you, Jay Ward, I've never seen you so excited 320 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: to watch film won a rookie then when I saw 321 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: you breaking down jay Wards film safety from from LSU. 322 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: But what players on this current roster or what year 323 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: one guy do you think can make an impact early 324 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: on this year. 325 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: I expect Jordan Addison obviously to make an impact. I 326 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: think he's as a route runner and as a player, 327 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: he's a little bit further ahead than a lot of rookies. 328 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: He's not a guy that has let's just say, he's 329 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: a high weight, speed guy and just is a little 330 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: bit raw. I mean, he's definitely more refined, pretty well rounded. 331 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: So I expect him to be able to fit into 332 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: an offense and start doing some things right away. You know, 333 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: I think Mackay Blackman has a great opportunity too, just 334 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: because of the numbers, right, He's not he doesn't have to. 335 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't have two or three or four you know, 336 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: established well paid, you know, cornerbacks in front of him. 337 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: I think his game is going to be a lot 338 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: like Byron Murphy. So he just needs to show up 339 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: in training camp and handcuff himself the Byron Murphy and 340 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: wherever Byron goes and does, he does the same thing. Right. 341 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's for him, but uh, for you know, 342 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: Jay Ward. I love I love Jay Ward because I 343 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: think his leadership on the field. He played multiple positions. 344 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: That means he understood you can't play multiple positions and 345 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: just understand what that specific spot does. Right. That's kind 346 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: of how when you first show up, that's what you learn. 347 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: You learn one position and I know I do this, 348 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: and then I do that, and you know this is 349 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: what I do. But when you have to move around 350 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: and play multiple spots, you have to begin to understand 351 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: the system and know why. Right, I have to know 352 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: why when a receiver goes in motion and this front 353 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: and coverage, the corner is going to run with him. 354 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: But in this coverage, we have to bump and the 355 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: safety's doing this, So that means I do that. I mean, 356 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's a better, bigger, broader understanding of the game. 357 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: And I think it's going to pay dividends for him. 358 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: But the way the thing about Ward is just how 359 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: he flies around and hits and he's one of the 360 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: best tackling guys that we've drafted in a long time. 361 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: And I think about that, and I think about Cosey 362 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: Delpomns's tie to the forty nine ers, right, And when 363 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: you watch a forty nine ers game, what makes that 364 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: defense so good is that when a receiver or somebody 365 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: catches a ball and they get hit, they go down 366 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: right away. The Niners defense, they're a very very good tackling, 367 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: hard hitting defense. And you know, you think, guy, what's 368 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: the big deal? You know, the guy falls forward or whatever. 369 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: But you throw the ball fifty times a game, and 370 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: if they're getting you know, two, three, four, five yards 371 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: of contact or you know, yards after contact, My god, 372 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: that adds up. That's the difference between third and seven 373 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: and third and let's say five or four. And what 374 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: does that mean for the defensive line? Right? What does 375 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: that mean for Bosa? That little that little bit changes 376 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: so much. And that's what I really like about Ward 377 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: is on film, you watch that kid. I mean they're 378 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: there are plays where he's not even in the picture 379 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: on the film and then all of a sudden he's 380 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: flying in and laying somebody out. He's throwing his body around. 381 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of old school right in that, 382 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: and I love that about that kid. He is not afraid. 383 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: He should be an unbelievable special team Arizona's. They don't 384 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: fair catch every kickoff return this year, I guess, but 385 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: I expect. I expect to see, you know, him when 386 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: he gets in there to make an impact. He's the 387 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: kind of guy that in the preseason you're gonna, I 388 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: think you're gonna hear his name quite a bit, and 389 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna stand out because of him, you know, by 390 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Laura and the boom on some people. So I'm excited 391 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: about seeing that kid run around. 392 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot of there's excitement surrounding that. You know, 393 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 4: I think the last guy that really felt that way, 394 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: I mean, Harrison sticks his nose and a lot of 395 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: plays just in creative ways. But the last guy I 396 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 4: really remember being kind of that guy that the fan 397 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: absolutely dug into and loved was when we acquired Antoine 398 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: Winfield Senior, because Antonino was a guy that he would 399 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: diagnose a play so insanely fast to figure out if 400 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 4: this is a runner pass and then either knife in 401 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: to stop to play at the line of scrimmage, or 402 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: you know, stick a guy when he got a chance, 403 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 4: and and and if you can find that kind of 404 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: attitude defensively, especially secondary wise, I mean the secondary going 405 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: into this year, You've got people who have been around 406 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: for the last couple of seasons that have made some plays. 407 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: But I feel like, even like you're talking about with 408 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 4: mackay too, there's a lot of opportunity here still. I 409 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 4: don't think that there's you know, outside of at this 410 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: point Harrison Smith, and there's just going to be a 411 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 4: ton of competition for who's going to be the potential 412 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: starter on game you know, game one for the regular season. 413 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: So it just feels like those guys have an opportunity 414 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: that if they do become tenacious and show the right traits, 415 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: they might get a shot earlier than people would think. 416 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, speaking of Anteline Winfield Senior, there 417 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: were you know, I when I was there coaching. We 418 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: had Ted Cottrell's defensive coordinator, Ted Contreil coach Dantoine over 419 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: in Buffalo for a number of years and uh, Ted 420 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: Contrell being there was was I think a big reason 421 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: why Antoine chose Minnesota. But when you watch him on film, 422 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: offenses didn't know if he was blitzing. He read the 423 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: run so quickly they're they they're looking and saying, is 424 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: this is this a blitz or is this him just 425 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: reading it? I mean the opportunities I think if you 426 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: if we look at our defensive back group over the 427 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years, all these guys, the guys you know, 428 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: when you ask and say, well, who's it probably going 429 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: to be in the backfield, It's going to be who 430 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: stays healthy. And our our our our backfield has been 431 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: plagued by injury and it's and and that's what's kept 432 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: guys from developing. That's what's kept guys off the field. 433 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the you know, you look 434 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: at you look back at the career with us with 435 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: Cameron Dancler and Cameron just couldn't find a way to 436 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, he made some plays, He started to make 437 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: some plays, and he thinks finally the guy's turning the corner, 438 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: but he's got to stay in the field. And then 439 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: as soon as a couple of things go well, he's 440 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, he's out again. And you know that's the 441 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: part of the that's the underrated part of the game. 442 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, do you look at 443 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson and you know, because we talk on the 444 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: radio all across the country about you know, Justin Jefferson 445 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: and what do you think and all that, and you're like, hey, 446 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: this guy stays on the field. He's out there all 447 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: the time, all the time. He doesn't you know, those guys, 448 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: the guys that are the great players are the ones 449 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: that consistently play sixteen to seventeen games a season, right, 450 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: They're not the guys that missed six weeks here and 451 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: four weeks over there. And you know, because you have 452 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: to be on the field, and the younger you are, 453 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: the more a sense more important it is that you 454 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: stay healthy and get out there and get your reps 455 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: and learn the game. I mean, look at you talk 456 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: about the evolution of a player. Look at JJ we 457 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: go and we played Detroit at home and they quick 458 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: jam him at the line of scrimmage as a little 459 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: safety help will the tops and middle open that kind 460 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: of thing, and they shut him down. Right, he didn't 461 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: really do anything that first game against Detroit. Well, he 462 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: played again the next week, and then teams try to 463 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: copy it. Right, It's a copycat league in that respect, 464 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: so other teams try to do it. So he's he's 465 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: working on different things, the coaches are working on different things, 466 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: and by the end of the season you saw a 467 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: lot of his big plays coming against that exact same 468 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: type of coverage. But if he wasn't around for four 469 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: weeks six weeks in the middle of the season, he 470 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: never would have been able to take that step, you know. 471 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: So he's sitting there going, Okay, I don't care how 472 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: you want to defend me. I've seen it, right, I 473 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: know how to beat it. We know what we're going 474 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: to do with it, right, And you know Cousins knows too, 475 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: and so you build on those things, but you have 476 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: to stay on the field to do that. It's a 477 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: cumulative amount of knowledge that you have to create. So 478 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: you can't play and learn a bunch of things like 479 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, like Danceeler did, and he was making plays 480 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden instead of building on it, 481 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: he's for another couple three, four or five weeks or whatever. 482 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: And then and then you get back on the field 483 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: and you're just trying to get back to the speed 484 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: of the game again, and you're, you know, you're constantly 485 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: one forward, two back. And so for that group, that 486 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: defensive back group, I don't have a crystal ball, but 487 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: my money's on the guys that could stay healthy. 488 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 4: The classic Pete Bursa phrase, if you can't make the 489 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: club and the tub is absolutely. 490 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nowadays it's a little different in that respect, you know. 491 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: But to your point, Jay, you know, I look at 492 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: my career and my I played as long as I 493 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: did because I could play multiple positions. I had to. 494 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: I had to right, I had to know the base, 495 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: the nickel, the blitzes, everything for more than one spot. 496 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: And because I was able to do so, that's what 497 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: kept me around. The other thing was is I did 498 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: not miss no I missed one day of training camp, 499 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: and that was when my son was born. I missed 500 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of training camp. And but other than that, 501 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: I never missed a practice in training camp. 502 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: I was gonna say house offish in my career. Yeah, 503 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: that's exactly. 504 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: I mean it was a different time, a little bit 505 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: of a different time. But I remember it was a 506 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Monday after a Giants preseason game that we got beat 507 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: pretty badly. So it was going to be an absolutely 508 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: horrific Monday, and I was on it was Monday morning. 509 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm the tape, get my ankles taped, and then the 510 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: phone rang and I'm you know, so I still you know, 511 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: repeat my son, Pete, who call him? Repeat? I still 512 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: owe him. I owe him the rest of my life 513 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: because he got me out of that day of practice. 514 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: Pete, I want to talk about you know, I know 515 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: you're a defensive guy, so we got to talk defense 516 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: before we get you out of here. Just in your 517 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: years of covering Slash coaching the Vikings, have you seen 518 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: this many players rave about this defense this early on 519 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: in the offseason. Like granted, I mean there's only going 520 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: to be positive things that are coming out from each team, 521 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: but for you know, offensive players, defensive players talking about 522 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 3: how great Brian Floor is his schemes have been thus far, 523 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: Like have you seen that? 524 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean you see that. I mean what else 525 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: are you gonna? I mean, think about it? So for 526 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: here a skeptic. You're gonna be like, all right, well, 527 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: what else are they going to say? You know what 528 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: I mean? You're not gonna be like, yeah, that's the 529 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: same stuff we did last year, because then everybody be go, 530 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: oh my god. Where you know, Flores is a different 531 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: these these as different of a coach is I think 532 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: you can get from a personality standpoint, intensity standpoint, but 533 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: it's important that the players like what they're doing and 534 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: that you have players that fits your scheme. And I 535 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: can just you know, I haven't seen a single practice. 536 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea you know what they're doing, uh, 537 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: but you can kind of guess at it by the 538 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: people that they've brought in. When you look at a 539 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: me Kai Blackman and his resemblance to Byron Murphy, you know, 540 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: they're not sick. They're not the six foot two jam 541 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: type corners and that kind of thing. They're they're Manda 542 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: Man cover guys. Right. These are the kinds of guys 543 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: that are going to want that you're you know, mur 544 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Bryan Murphy is as good of a Manda Man cover 545 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: guys I've seen in quite some time. Right, are there 546 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: some things that I would like to see him do better. Absolutely, 547 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: but it's not anything to do with coverage, especially not 548 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: anything to do with man to man coverage and his 549 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: versatility because he can play he plays nickel, he plays corner. 550 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you say this, all right, you're 551 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: playing DeVante Adams and you're like, well, we'll just put 552 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy on him, right. You know people say that 553 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: during the week. They're like, well, well this will lock. 554 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: This guy will handcuff him to him. And you're thinking, yeah, 555 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: if you're playing man to man, I guess yeah, you 556 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: can do that. But if you're playing zone, you don't. 557 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: You don't know what if you're playing nickel or corner 558 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: or wherever that guy lines up. If he lines up 559 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: at number three, you're basically a linebacker, So you have 560 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: a linebacker drop right. You have to have somebody that 561 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: can process all that. It's not as easy as it sounds. 562 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: But Murphy can do that and I've seen him do 563 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: that on film. He you know, he's a very very 564 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: smart player. And so I think we're going to be 565 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: a lot more challenge and we're going to challenge more 566 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: receivers more, and I think in this day and age, 567 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: disrupting the timing of an offense is imperative and how 568 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: do you do that? Well, if you're playing five yards 569 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: off you can't because once you get past five yards 570 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: you can't touch the receiver. So you're going to have 571 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: to get get down on the paint more and challenge 572 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: and bump and do those things because timing is everything 573 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: nowadays with with these quick throws and everything else. So 574 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: as far as the front goes, you know, I mean, 575 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: you take a look at a guy like you know, 576 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: Ji queenland Roy who when he played a zero nos 577 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: technique at LSU, he was very very good. Right, we've 578 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: seen Miami place in bear fronts. Although the interesting part 579 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: is that this is really the first time I think 580 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: Flores has been a defensive coordinator able to do whatever 581 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: it is that he wants to do. I mean, he 582 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: was a signal caller in New England. But that's the system. 583 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: That's the scheme that they that you know that they 584 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: run their Belichick runs. That's what you do. It's a system. 585 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: And then he goes to be a head coach, so 586 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: then he hires a defense coordinators, So how much of 587 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: his defense was in that? You know, he hired a 588 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: guy I came from his name off the top of sad, 589 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: but he came from New England. But you know a 590 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: lot more you know, some bear fronts and not three 591 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: four per se, but one more bear fronts, a lot 592 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: more man demand they liked. You know, Miami's played with 593 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: some smaller defensive ends and some smaller outside linebackers, guys 594 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: that can run, you know that kind of thing. So 595 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's going to be very interesting to see, 596 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, what they do. And I think there's gonna 597 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: be some big changes at the linebacker position, but just 598 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: how they play that position, I just expect them to 599 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: be much more downhill. Got something. You gotta do something 600 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: with the run game, my friends, you know, and I 601 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: think getting the linebackers up and downhill and you know, 602 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: you know those kinds that that's going to be. That's 603 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: going to be huge. And I cannot wait to see 604 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: Ivan Pace get downhill on somebody because he's like a 605 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: little tank man's I have. I haven't been this excited 606 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: to see an undrafted rookie free agent playing quite some time. 607 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see that kid go out there 608 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: and light somebody up. 609 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: I love that people. We're going to get you out 610 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: of here with this. 611 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: Over the past weekend, Bud Grant was in the news 612 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: for obviously positive reasons. One, we celebrated his life last 613 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 3: week and then we had a podcast own, you know, 614 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: just his life this past week on the Minnesota Vikings podcast. 615 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: But two, Kevin O'Connell was gifted a time, was gifted 616 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: the tide that Bud Grant wore at his Hall of 617 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: Fame induction years ago. When you saw that picture, where 618 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: were some things that came to. 619 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: Mind, you know, in the in the religion of football. 620 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: That's a relic, right, Yeah, for sure, that's that's a relic, right. 621 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean it, I thought that was pretty pretty amazing 622 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: and it's you know, so for koc it's a reminder 623 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: and that's what you know, that's what Bud did. I mean, 624 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: think about that. Bud. He's as much of that franchise 625 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: as any you know, you know, as a Fred Zamberletti 626 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: you got to put him in the mount rushmore of 627 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: the of the Vikings and that. But he stuck around. 628 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: He was there and even when I was coaching when Mike, 629 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, with Mike Tye and you know, Bud was 630 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: around and he was always he was always there to 631 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: give us two cents. He was always there to give 632 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: the big picture and that experience. And you know, Bud 633 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: knew how anyone who played for Bud new how you know, 634 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: knew this, that he knew how to motivate people. And 635 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: that's that's that's huge, that's key because not everybody gets 636 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: motivated the same way. You just have to know how 637 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: to press everybody's buttons. And Bud was was was unbelievable 638 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: at that he knew, he knew the guys that he had, 639 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: He knew how to press their buttons. He knew all 640 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: those things. And you know, yeah, just a found. He 641 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: talked about a fountain of knowledge. I mean, oh my god. 642 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: So him having an office building for as long as 643 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: he did his his even when he wasn't the head coach, 644 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: he left his mark on this franchise. And and uh, 645 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, there aren't many like him. I mean stollic 646 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: He's stollach Is in Minnesotan can be right. I mean 647 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: that's kind of what that's what you know, I've been 648 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: loved about him. But yeah, what a great what a 649 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: great man, what a what a wis you know, what 650 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: a wealth of wisdom of not just football, but life 651 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: too and how to live with football. So yeah, I 652 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: think that's I think for Kevin O'Connell, that's that's a 653 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: tremendous reminder. Just look at the wall, see that tie. 654 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: You know what would Bud do? Right? You know what 655 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean? And you have those moments when you're there, 656 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: so it just it's it's it's sad, it's sad. But 657 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, Bud left the legacy, boy, I'll tell you 658 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: that for sure. 659 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: And that's the thing too, you know you're looking at it, 660 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: it's almost kind of the passing of the torch. It's 661 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 4: the passing of the tie on that one, right. 662 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 663 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: I think for me, you know, kind of tongue in 664 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: cheek too a little bit is the whole idea that 665 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 4: he still had it around after all the garage sales 666 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: and everything. I think, I think the thing for Bud, 667 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: I think, like you touched on, I think that the 668 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: fact is, you know, he's going to be the kind 669 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: of grandfather slash lion of the organization for years to come. 670 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: You know, you hear about the you know, Lombardy side 671 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 4: and the Grant side and everything else with those guys. 672 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 4: He's left the legacy he's set the help set the 673 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 4: foundation and the tone of what it meant to be 674 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: a coach. 675 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: You know. 676 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: So he was successful, got to Super Bowls, they didn't 677 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: win them, but at the same point, just everybody to 678 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: a tea basically said, the way that he handled himself, 679 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: he not only was a coach, but he was a 680 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: leader and just kind of helped set a bunch of, 681 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: you know, headstrong men who are the alpha of the alphas. 682 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 4: From playing you know, you knew he was the voice 683 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: in the room that that that set the tone for everything. 684 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: So I think, you know, one of the things about 685 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 4: having this happen and passing that to O'Connell especially and 686 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 4: going into year two, it's just kind of, like you said, 687 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: it serves as a reminder of kind of the legacy 688 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: of what you're trying to building where you're trying to 689 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: achieve to. 690 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: So hopefully Kevin can get to that point. 691 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: Answer passing, have you ever have you ever heard the 692 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: Bud your aunt Carl Eller's story about the pregame meal 693 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: and the pancakes. 694 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: No go for it. 695 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: That one, That one's my favorite effort. All right, Well, 696 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: so Bud, you know, so this is a story Bud 697 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: told about Carl Eller. I mean, if anybody knows Carl Eller, 698 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: he's not he's not very he he's I mean, yeah, 699 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: he's a he's a guy that you're still afraid of, 700 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: even though he's I don't know, he's a seventy something 701 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: right now. Anyway, But Carl came into the pregame meal, 702 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: I guess, and you know, we wanted pancakes and they 703 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: didn't have pancakes, so you know Carl, And this is 704 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Bud telling the story. So he's like, Carl comes over 705 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: and he's like, where the pancakes? And he's like, well, 706 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have him at the pregame meal. 707 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: So he took the table, you know, and picked it 708 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: up and just flipped it over, you know, with all 709 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: the with everything on it, right, with all this, all 710 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: of the drink, you know, whatever, just flip the table over. 711 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: And he's like everybody's looking at at but everyone's like, well, Bud, 712 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: what did you do? He goes, I got them pancakes, 713 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: And you think about that, it's like, you know, the 714 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: the brilliance of that where he's like, Okay, I got 715 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: a guy who's flipping tables over because he wants pancakes. 716 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get him that so he can go out 717 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday. And you know what I mean, 718 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: it takes care because some people be like, oh my god, 719 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: that's unacceptable and how could he do. Bud's like, yeah, no, 720 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that about him. I want that. 721 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: I want people like that who are going to be 722 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: like that. And you know, so he's like, yeah, I 723 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: got them pancakes. But that's Bud, right, that's the simple 724 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: what do you you know, what did you do? It's like, well, 725 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: I got them pancakes. Solve problems solved. Now Carl won't 726 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: put tables and pregame meal. He'll go out there and 727 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: crack skulls when he's out there on the field. Right. So, yeah, 728 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: the way he told that story is was was absolutely brilliant. 729 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: This is absolutely. 730 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 3: That's how you end the podcasts. You end the podcast 731 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: with the great Bud Grant story. Mister Pete Bursige, former 732 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 3: Vikings linebacker, former Vikings coach, still serves as the color 733 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 3: commentator for the Vikings Radio Network. It is never a 734 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: dull moment talking to him, whether that's Bud Grant stories 735 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: or just life in general. 736 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: But speaking on Vikings football. 737 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: It was recently announced that the Vikings will host two 738 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: joint practices this year against the Arizona Cardinals and the 739 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans during training camp this year. Minnesota Vikings head 740 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 3: coach Kevin O'Connell addressed to the media today and gave 741 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: his thoughts on what that means for this Minnesota Vikings team. 742 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 5: Before I take any questions, I did want to provide 743 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 5: an update to you guys regarding training camp, at least 744 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 5: a big part of it for us. We're really excited 745 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 5: to let you guys know that we will be hosting 746 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 5: joint practices, not just one time this year, but twice. 747 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 5: We will be welcoming in the Titans and the Cardinals 748 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 5: here to our facility before our Week two and Week 749 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 5: three preseason games. We'll give us a tremendous opportunity to 750 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 5: have really four plus days of really good competition. You know, 751 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 5: I know both coach Rabel and coach Jonathan Gannon, both 752 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 5: those guys I have personal relationships with. I know what 753 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 5: kind of leaders they are, I know what kind of 754 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 5: teams they'll be bringing here ready to make sure we 755 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 5: get some great work, but to be able to have 756 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 5: that is a critical critical part of our training camp 757 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 5: formula to try to be at our best when the 758 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 5: season rolls around. We've got such amazing facilities here. Pretty 759 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 5: I don't know if there's a better facility in the 760 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 5: entire NFL. In fact, I know there's not to host 761 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 5: your training camp, allow fans to be here, but ultimately 762 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 5: also host to NFL teams in back to back weeks 763 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 5: and they can feel comfortable and confident that they're going 764 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 5: to come here and be provided what they need to 765 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 5: get ready for the season as well. 766 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: So really excited about that. 767 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 5: We'll let you guys know the exact details of what 768 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 5: that looks like as we approach training camp, but wanted 769 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 5: to make sure you guys were aware of that and 770 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 5: something we're really excited about. 771 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 3: Exciting news Vikings fans. Once tickets become available, I'm sure 772 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 3: we will be posting something, So stay tuned to Vikings 773 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 3: dot com for the most up to date coverage of 774 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: the team. For Pete Bursig, J Notson, Eric Davidson. My 775 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: name is Gabe Henderson. We'll talk to you next week.