00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gift temperature, whyne girl, we're here. It's Monday as we're recording. Yesterday was Sunday. I made two separate plans yesterday, crushing never again, I had no time for myself. One of them involved some tricky parking in mid city Los Angeles where Sunday the meters are not free and they're only one hour parking one hour on a Sunday. So that was yes I saw ET for the first time, I think since I was a child. Yesterday. What was going on with that guy? It's an interesting movie. Take a look back. The UFO He Flies is like built out of stuff you would put around, like a motel pool. It's not very high tech. So I saw that. I think that's essentially my life. I saw ET. Let me see if I have any business, no Patreon, Why do I always have to remind I've got to get better at promoting myself. I'm gonna that's going to be the new me, just tireless self promotion. Get ready for patreon dot com slash. I said, no gifts, I mean there's just anything you could ask for. It's there, bonus episodes, episodes of me recapping the gals and Utah, just people chatting and sharing photos of pets. I mean, it's a very nice place to be, so go there. Hmm. I'm just I'm now realizing my AirPods are probably somewhere just the battery is probably just draining for no reason. Apple's got to figure that out. Okay, whatever, let's get into the podcast. I mean today's guests. I adore one of I mean, I can't say enough. It's Vanessa Bay or Vanessa welcomed. I said, no, kid, so much for having me, So happy to have you here. I'm curious something. I just want to ask you right off the top, what's your current relationship with Waimo. I love it. You're a real evangelist. I feel like I've only been in one so far, and it was with you, and you made a very good pitch for it. 00:02:59 Speaker 3: Yes, what was my pitch? 00:03:01 Speaker 2: Was it? 00:03:01 Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you my pitch. Let's see, my most recent pitch would be it's so nice, it's you can do whatever you want in there. You can you can say anything because no one's listening to you. And then also sometimes if you take another ride share, you never know if the driver is going to be a good at driving, but even worse, have a bad personality frequently, both. 00:03:33 Speaker 3: Frequently both and especially for women. We get in those cars. 00:03:36 Speaker 4: We don't know if there's going to be a creep up there, right, Yeah, guess who's not a creep? 00:03:40 Speaker 3: Nobody a robot? 00:03:43 Speaker 2: And you're not worried about being recorded? 00:03:46 Speaker 4: No, I mean I I you know we're always being recorded. 00:03:51 Speaker 3: That's what it's like, Why more there than anywhere else? 00:03:54 Speaker 2: And this one feels more like at least you would be qualified for like a lawsuit totally if it was exposed, you could blastom. 00:04:00 Speaker 4: Actually, I just spoke to someone who was saying that they had like all this stuff to do and then they had a therapy put when they hit they had to be like across town like an hour and they were like, Oh, I'm just going to do my therapy from the weimo interesting, And they had like an hour long ride in the Weimo where they did their therapy right remotely, you know, and obviously, and they said. 00:04:21 Speaker 3: It was like incredible. 00:04:23 Speaker 2: That sounds kind of lovely, so nice, right, Yeah, I have no interest in zoom therapy, but in that situation, I think it'd be different. I wouldn't be home right right, right right. I mean, I think part of it is, I'm like, is Jim listening through the door. We're in an unhealthy relationship? Obvious, got it? Got it? No, But I think driving around and talking to your therapist might be kind of nice. 00:04:43 Speaker 4: And by the way, you're also going from A to B, from place A to B. 00:04:47 Speaker 3: You're getting so much done at once. 00:04:49 Speaker 2: Right, right, And you've been doing it for a while now. Have you ever felt in danger? 00:04:55 Speaker 3: Not really. 00:04:57 Speaker 4: Sometimes when it has to make a hard left, it's difficult left. I'm like, but it has so many cameras, and guess who doesn't have so many cameras most any of the drivers of ride shares. 00:05:10 Speaker 2: Did you take away moo here? No? Okay, oh I should have We should be clear. Wells As far as I know, Vanessa's not being paid by waymo. It's just a pure fashion for the service. 00:05:23 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that. 00:05:25 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not like, oh a, I should replace them. Okay, I'm a very hard against right, right, but I'm like, but should they drive us? 00:05:35 Speaker 2: This one? This is one where I kind of agree with you, Yeah, because I don't know how you are as a driver. But I'm atrocious. 00:05:41 Speaker 4: Oh same, I trust WAYMO more than me driving absolute And again, it's just like you just never knows. There there's been so many reports on the ride shares having like awful things happen with these drivers, these drivers being terrible and just yeah anyway, so it's just like so nice to be like, I'm just I'm chill. And actually, when you get in, here's another plug. They play sort of futuristic music, which you can change. 00:06:11 Speaker 3: You can change it. 00:06:12 Speaker 4: You can even put like stuff from your phone on if you want, right, But I like the futuristic music because I like to go, I'm getting in this way, mo, I'm in space. 00:06:21 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I would feel like I had, like, uh, messed up the experience if I was playing my regular. 00:06:27 Speaker 3: Music, right, Yeah. Let it be ethereal. 00:06:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, treat it more like an elevator. Yeah, it feels kind of like an elevator. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does, except I honestly feel more safe in a way more than in an elevator. 00:06:38 Speaker 2: Elevators are extremely dangerous elevators. 00:06:40 Speaker 3: I every so often I go, do I have a. 00:06:43 Speaker 2: Phobia of elevators? I think if you think about it too much, you will get you will. Yeah. I know someone who has a strong phobia, and you know when you're with her, you're just taking the stairs. But you, like you if you do any type of looking into what happens with elevators and elevator maintenance, you're like, oh, I hate it. I'm gonna get cut in half, Oh, decapitated. Something's going to happen in an elevator. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: But I want to say that for the most part, it won't. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: That's probably true. 00:07:13 Speaker 3: But you have to look at those certificates. 00:07:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, see when like it was last. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: Checked, See when it was last checked. 00:07:19 Speaker 2: I forgot they had those in the Yeah, they have to have those certificates. They should have ratings like restaurants, Yes, gets a. 00:07:26 Speaker 4: Certificates are kind of hard to read. There's a lot of cursive on there. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: There's that kind of fancy. They look too ceremonial. It's like they won an award or. 00:07:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, It makes them almost look antiquated, like they looked old because they've got so much. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: Like flowery letter Yeah, like they were part of like a ribbon cutting ceremony or something I wanted to look like, you know, just like this was. This cable was checked last month. The door was checked last month. Yeah. No, it looks like they won small business awards. Yeah, exactly the city. No, that's very scary. This is the other thing about weimo. I want to ask you. The one reason I do like to drive and I wouldn't do it in a weimo is I get to listen to music and I can focus more because I can't look at my phone as much. Right, So those are the two things that are kind of like I would. I don't know if maybe a weimo could like handcuff you right. 00:08:19 Speaker 4: Well, you know what you've got to get. I'm going to promote something else I'm not getting paid to promote. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: Is it a brick? Yep, they're everywhere. 00:08:27 Speaker 3: I am obsessed with my brick. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: How are you using it? 00:08:31 Speaker 4: Here's what I do at ten o'clock every night. It turns off Instagram. Okay, that's the only app I have linked to it. You can go so far as to like link your I message to it so that you're not even getting texts there. 00:08:45 Speaker 2: It's a tough one. 00:08:45 Speaker 4: It seems tough in case there's an emergency or something or you have to something send a text. 00:08:53 Speaker 3: But it turns it off at ten pm. 00:08:55 Speaker 4: And the thing that's great about that is I can't look at Instagram before I go to sleep, and I can't look at it in the morning because I have to physically walk over to my refrigerator and unbrick my Oh yeah. So and sometimes I'll forget to do it for days, like I I'll go, I'll be off of it for days. 00:09:14 Speaker 2: That's so helpful. 00:09:15 Speaker 4: It's so great because you sort of and then it becomes this thing where now I will say, it becomes this thing where I now when I go on Instagram, I'm so impressed by it. 00:09:27 Speaker 2: You're like dazzled. 00:09:28 Speaker 3: I'm dazzled. 00:09:29 Speaker 4: I'm like, first of all, everybody is so funny, like we want to be chunks that are so funny. 00:09:35 Speaker 3: And second all, I'm like, how do you like? 00:09:39 Speaker 4: I get very targeted by cottage cheese recipes like oh dud, should we follow? 00:09:44 Speaker 3: Okay, let's follow up at that. 00:09:45 Speaker 4: But then but then yeah, I won't go on for days and it's great. 00:09:49 Speaker 2: So okay, this is that's how the Instagram experience should be. That feels like I agreat like twenty ten when you would get on one of these services and be like, I'm having fun exactly. 00:09:59 Speaker 4: It's fun and like once in a while someone will tag me in something and it will be a story and I won't ever get to see it. Oh sure, but it's like it's worth sorry to brag, but it's worth like missing a couple of those to just have your life. 00:10:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. Back, I disagree because sometimes. 00:10:13 Speaker 4: I do a thing where I would be like, I'm going to go off, I'm not checking Instagram for the rest of the night, and then I would like, without even thinking about it, go on to Instagram of course, and I'm like, what is wrong with me? 00:10:24 Speaker 2: I will fully have like a thing I need to do, yeah, and then suddenly I'm on Instagram. I have forgotten whatever I was supposed to do. It's so distracting, so poisonous. Yeah, okay, so now I'm curious that you're getting cottage cheese recipes. 00:10:38 Speaker 4: Okay, So I I've backed off a little the protein thing in terms of like being a person who's like obsessed with protein. But I do love cottage cheese and it does. And something that I've learned from this whole protein maxim movement is that you can blend it and add it into stuff to make it have more or not blended. Like you can put it in your eggs and then like. 00:11:05 Speaker 2: Scramble eggs frequently, so smart. 00:11:07 Speaker 4: It's a great it's a great thing you can do with Greek yogurts. It's like adding cheese to something. It's you're adding dairy. 00:11:14 Speaker 2: That'stylish, right, You're adding it to Greek yogurt. 00:11:18 Speaker 3: You can you can put Greek yogurt in your eggs. 00:11:20 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I say, why are you adding too that? 00:11:23 Speaker 4: I feel like I've had recipes before that I've had both in them and it's a lot, and. 00:11:27 Speaker 2: It feels like a lot. Pick one, okay. 00:11:30 Speaker 4: But there's there's like desserts you can make and stuff with it too, really like what like I feel like you can mix it with like peanut, they're all sort of the same. They're all like peanut butter, chocolate, a little almond flour, like you know what I'm saying. And then you just make a little ball or something like that. Or you can make bark. 00:11:52 Speaker 2: Oh like a bark. You can make a bark out of Are you like baking the cream or the cottage chees? You're just. 00:12:01 Speaker 4: I think the barks are more uh like peanut butter chocolate. 00:12:08 Speaker 2: I don't know. I bet that's a frozen I think it's a frozen thing. Yeah. I can't imagine putting no cottage cheese in the oven. 00:12:14 Speaker 4: No, you although people do it, they do well, you do it when you make scrambled eggs. 00:12:19 Speaker 2: You sort of oh, yeah, yeah, I wonder what it's happening when it's in the oven, though, And it's just like and fifty degrees. 00:12:25 Speaker 3: If you are eating cottage cheese, plain, what are you doing? 00:12:28 Speaker 2: I usually will eat it with a toast or a cracker. 00:12:31 Speaker 3: That's so good. Can I tell you another hack? 00:12:34 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:12:34 Speaker 2: I would love. This is an extremely pro cottage cheese podcast. I love. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: I'm so thrilled about that because I love cottage. 00:12:41 Speaker 2: You're like the first guest that has an attack when. 00:12:42 Speaker 3: People don't like cottage cheese. I go try it again. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, when was the last time you try it? Yeah? 00:12:48 Speaker 4: Try it in a new for well, because some people like sweet sweet version, some people like savory. 00:12:53 Speaker 2: I will go for either. But let me tell you. 00:12:55 Speaker 4: If you if you bake a sweet potato and you top a sweet potato with cottage cheese and then put some pepper. 00:13:03 Speaker 3: On that it is I want to get. I want to eat that right now. So I'm gonna excuse me. I need to go eat it. 00:13:10 Speaker 2: Just kidding. Yeah, that's like, I uh, putting a sweet element with it concerns me. 00:13:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you. 00:13:18 Speaker 2: But a sweet potato, I think is like not It's like a different type of sweet. 00:13:21 Speaker 4: But I know someone who puts it on toast with blueberry jam, okay, and it's pretty good. 00:13:27 Speaker 2: I think I'm willing to try it. I would say, just try it. I love cottage cheese so much. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: It's so good. I think it's really one of the best foods. 00:13:35 Speaker 2: Now. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: Is there a brand? 00:13:36 Speaker 2: I'm I'm curious. I bet we. 00:13:39 Speaker 3: Both like the same brand. 00:13:40 Speaker 2: You want to say it? I'm three. I bet you have a better brand than Oh interesting, I'm getting Joe's. And there's a brand I hate, Bridger. 00:13:46 Speaker 3: What's the brand you hate? 00:13:48 Speaker 2: I think it's is it Nudsen's k n U D S. 00:13:51 Speaker 4: E N Bridger, You're like in the pits of cottage cheese. I don't even look at that. Okay, not to be snob, but I really need you to up your cottage cheese. 00:14:03 Speaker 2: What are you eating good culture could? Oh sure, sure, I'm telling you. Trader Joe's is a good cottage cheese. But you have to get full fat. That's the other thing. People don't realize. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: This is the thing that is makes my brain break. What it seems like with cottage cheese and with yogurt, the lower the fat, the higher the protein. Really, yes, we can look it up. 00:14:33 Speaker 2: It's so messed up. That's very odd. 00:14:36 Speaker 4: It's great for a person, right, be like if you have two percent cottage sheees. I know for a fact that if you have two percent Greek yogurt, at least the brand, then I use fai Ya Okay, fay yea. 00:14:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's what you gotta get. Fa yea. 00:14:51 Speaker 4: It has more protein in it than the five percent and the skin and the zero percent fat has more protein than the two percent. 00:14:59 Speaker 2: Really, isn't it is that crazy? Can confirm? Now? 00:15:02 Speaker 4: What about what about the cottage cheese. I think the cottage cheese like good culture cottage cheese. I think the four percent whole milk one has less protein than the two percent. 00:15:13 Speaker 6: Let me just double check. 00:15:14 Speaker 2: I got to get the fact. So this is something I'm actually concerned to pass. 00:15:17 Speaker 4: I know, I know, because you feel like like you always go like, I'm gonna get the full fat because it's like better for me. Actually, like you guys who are like low fat, you're idiots. 00:15:25 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: But that's why I look down her wise. 00:15:29 Speaker 3: Wait wait, okay, cottage, she's the inverse. It's the inverse. 00:15:33 Speaker 6: Full fat four percent eleven to twelve grams of protein, non fat seven to ten grams of protein perserving. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: So there you go. Interesting. 00:15:42 Speaker 4: I want you to check you can because but because I at the single serving ones and I feel like the full fat one perserving is like eighteen grams. 00:15:50 Speaker 6: Here's the twist, low fat one to two percent, twelve to fourteen grams of protein. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: I it depends what brand. 00:15:58 Speaker 2: It must be. 00:15:58 Speaker 4: Brand it must be brand or curve size something. 00:16:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very confused. Well, and this is where I'll say, dairy wise with protein milk, if you get like no fat or whole milk, I think no fat has a little less. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense, which is why it doesn't make sense that Greek yogurt the highest fat is the lowest protein. 00:16:21 Speaker 2: Should we talk. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: About this for another hour so you can use all your listeners. 00:16:30 Speaker 2: I need to try the good culture. Do you get It's Life's well. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: I sometimes I buy the bigger servings, but sometimes, Oh, I make something that is so good, Bridger, I'm going to send you with and you know what, I haven't made it in a while, and I'm like, what the hell am I doing? I make these protein pancakes. Oh, I'm going to send you the recipe. I'm actually kind of surprised I haven't sent it to you because I'm having like a little bit of daja voo. 00:16:54 Speaker 2: I feel I haven't sent this to Okay. 00:16:56 Speaker 4: It's basically I haven't made it in a while, and I'm like pissed at myself. 00:17:00 Speaker 3: I haven't made it. Like, maybe i'll make it later today. 00:17:02 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:17:02 Speaker 4: It's it's cottage cheese. It's it's that's good. 00:17:12 Speaker 2: You dump it in a pan. It's cottage cheese. 00:17:14 Speaker 3: What else is in it? 00:17:15 Speaker 4: It's like I have to, like, I have to tell you what's in it because it is so I'm just going to go. 00:17:21 Speaker 2: It is like honestly, okay, here's what's in it. This is for two serving, okay, which is like what two pancakes? 00:17:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, except I have the I have it right, I'm having all my recipes okay. So it's oats, cottage, cheese, egg maple syrup, which I omit. 00:17:36 Speaker 2: Okay, I wouldn't put that in either. 00:17:38 Speaker 4: Baking powder, vanilla extract, and cinnamon, and I put collagen powder in it to make it higher protein. 00:17:45 Speaker 3: And when I and here's how I make it. This is wild. And I hope your listeners aren't porn out of their minds. 00:17:50 Speaker 2: But no, they've earned this by attacking me. 00:17:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've attacked you. So this is what they get. I make it in my air fryer. Whoa So that I cause, I am like then I'm going to like put the oil on. I'm going to mess it up. I'm gonna right, I'm making it. I get for my air fry do do you know you can get these parchment paper liners right? 00:18:09 Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course? 00:18:10 Speaker 3: So I get a circle. So I get a parchment paper liner. 00:18:12 Speaker 4: I just pour all the batter into there, okay, And there's like I figured out a certain it's like I think, I bake it at three sixty for fourteen minutes, okay, but I don't preheat it. 00:18:22 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:18:23 Speaker 4: Interesting because some they say with some sort of like bread type things, it's good for them to like gradually heat up right like it. 00:18:33 Speaker 3: They don't. 00:18:33 Speaker 4: They don't need to like go into a hot I don't. It doesn't totally make sense. But the point is I don't preheat it because you almost it would be hard to preheat it with the liner and with. 00:18:43 Speaker 2: All the stuff going on right right, and it is so good? And then does is the pancake square? 00:18:50 Speaker 4: It's the size of my liners are circle? Oh okay, but it's the size of what I oh. And then I put like blueberries or something on it. To the very last step is I pour the battery in and then I put like whatever kind of fruit I want to put on there. 00:19:03 Speaker 3: You know what is so good on there is. 00:19:06 Speaker 4: It's a kind of fruit that the name of it I can't remember, but I slice start naming fruits. Okay, it's a small fruit that it's sort of like a fruit that you're like, oh, I didn't know about this fruit as a kid. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: Let's see what fruits. 00:19:18 Speaker 3: It's like almost like a stone fruit. 00:19:22 Speaker 4: But it's like you when you're like, how did I not know these existed when I was a kid? 00:19:26 Speaker 2: Only the almost looks like tomatoes? Oh? What are those things? Yeah? 00:19:31 Speaker 1: Those? 00:19:31 Speaker 2: What is that? Though? You know what I'm sing? 00:19:34 Speaker 3: Did you also when you were an adult? 00:19:37 Speaker 2: Of course? I thought those were just tomatoes? What are those? Ellis that's like a specific type of thing. 00:19:44 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, per Simmons are so good on it on a pancake because they kind of brown in the air fryer. 00:19:52 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: Oh, and you've sliced them. I don't even know how you. 00:19:56 Speaker 3: Prepare because they're so new to us. 00:19:59 Speaker 2: I know I my parents prepares for They should have been making those every morning, I know. 00:20:05 Speaker 4: I'm like, did I have them as a kid and just think that? What would I have thought they were? 00:20:09 Speaker 2: I don't think we could have. Possibly. I don't think they hit store shelves until the early thousands. Yeah, they might. 00:20:14 Speaker 3: Are they a new fruit? 00:20:15 Speaker 2: I think it's a new frug. 00:20:16 Speaker 3: Can we look up. 00:20:17 Speaker 4: At per simmons a just invented in the last twenty years? 00:20:22 Speaker 3: No, we don't have to look that up. 00:20:23 Speaker 4: I'm sure they've been around, but it's shocking. 00:20:26 Speaker 3: It's like, here's the other thing. Where are you from again? 00:20:29 Speaker 2: From Utah? 00:20:30 Speaker 3: Now Bridgard? 00:20:31 Speaker 2: So I feel like. 00:20:32 Speaker 4: I know the answer this question about even asking Eve, And of course you're from Utah. I can't believe I forgot that because you know, I'm from Cleveland. 00:20:38 Speaker 2: Of course, not to show off, but I know. 00:20:41 Speaker 4: How old and when and where were you when you discovered Barrada. 00:20:45 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was I must have been in La. 00:20:49 Speaker 3: I was in New York. 00:20:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was either La or certainly I was not eating it in Salt Lake. I wasn't eating it. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: Even when I lived in Chicago, I didn't know it. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: It's just on the coast. No, it's not. Oh, it's made its way into the rest of the country. 00:21:02 Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell is this? 00:21:04 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 00:21:05 Speaker 4: And you know what, I remember my parents were visiting me and my brother. My brother Jonah and I were both living in New York at the time, and we went out to dinner with our parents who were visiting. And I think, and I apologize if this isn't true, but I think my parents didn't know what parana was. Maybe why would they know? It's very Italian, it's very Italian. What is Like, I'm like, is there something in Italy now that like we don't know about you? 00:21:32 Speaker 2: You're interesting and cheese that has just been like commonplace for years and we're just waiting for it to come here. 00:21:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a or like another food thing. 00:21:40 Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure there is, right, there must ten years we're going to feel like such fools. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: Because we didn't have like mochi when we were little. 00:21:47 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's that's certainly like that's. 00:21:49 Speaker 3: Now talking about Trader Joe's. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good one. They've very bastardized it in the last probably fifteen years. That's the mainstream mayor. Oh yeah, but I wouldn't have been able to tell you what it was prior to that. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a wonderful thing, so good. But who's It's just like, who's in charge of like allowing us like parsing out the new foods to America. 00:22:13 Speaker 4: I just like, I'm like, did anyone know what Barada was in like the eighties? 00:22:18 Speaker 2: I was, I'm sure in the US upper crust did they even? But I think in the eighties people are like, sushi's crazy, right, You're right, that was like this wild idea that. 00:22:29 Speaker 3: Was so crazy. 00:22:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:22:30 Speaker 4: I remember when they started selling sushi at Heinen's our grocery store. It was like, okay, I guess our grocery store is now the fanciest place on earth. 00:22:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's probably something. I wonder what we're dealing with. What food are we eating right now? That's like like just outside of the boundaries. 00:22:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when I was in New York recently, I had you know, New York goes through dessert trends. 00:22:56 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they really go there, good bakries. 00:22:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, better and so because they because remember that the crow Nat came from New York, which I don't feel has like taken over in any way. 00:23:08 Speaker 2: Kind of happy it hasn't. 00:23:09 Speaker 3: I am too. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: I don't like I like those separate You know. 00:23:12 Speaker 3: What else I had was the the Crookie. 00:23:16 Speaker 2: What did you think of that? 00:23:17 Speaker 4: First of all, it's tough because cookie and croissant have such. 00:23:21 Speaker 2: Completely different Oh. 00:23:23 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, it's like people just think you're saying cookie wrong. 00:23:27 Speaker 2: Oh. I was gonna say texture, No, not. 00:23:30 Speaker 4: Texture, texture wise totally different, but but name wise they're so close. 00:23:34 Speaker 3: It just makes you sound like an. 00:23:35 Speaker 2: Idiot, like you're having a problem. 00:23:37 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I just tried a crookie. I mean, like Vanessa, are you okay? 00:23:42 Speaker 2: There's no. 00:23:46 Speaker 3: Because they start with the same letter. 00:23:48 Speaker 2: It's unfortunately right. 00:23:49 Speaker 3: But yeah, the cookie it was. 00:23:54 Speaker 2: Fine, I'm sure, I mean, pretty delicious. 00:23:57 Speaker 4: But it's like, at what point are we just like combining baked goods and being like, I guess if you stack them on top of each. 00:24:03 Speaker 2: Other, they're good. Yeah, of course they're good. Yeah, A good croissant is good, a good cookie is good. Why can't I just have those be separate. I don't need it to be like a. 00:24:11 Speaker 4: Together a dare or some sort of yeah, some kind of challenge challenge. 00:24:18 Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me. 00:24:19 Speaker 4: Well, I had when I was there recently with my best friend Gwen and our friend Kate mccoochee. 00:24:26 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know. 00:24:28 Speaker 3: We tried the butter dipped ice cream. 00:24:30 Speaker 2: Oh, how was that? This is another one. I'm mike that one. 00:24:34 Speaker 4: It's almost says the opposite problem of the cookie, and that the names are really different ice cream and butter, although no one has tried to combine them namewise you have. But here's the problem. If you dip vanilla ice cream in butter, it's not like a magic shell like a chot where it can be super thin for it to like freeze, the butter layer has to be more thick. 00:24:58 Speaker 2: Than you would expect. 00:24:59 Speaker 4: Okay, then they do put salt on top, which like flaky salt, which. 00:25:04 Speaker 2: Adds to it, which probably necessary. 00:25:05 Speaker 4: Necessary, But the difference in flavor between butter and vanilla ice cream especially, I would say vanilla ice cream is like. 00:25:16 Speaker 2: Not that much, right, It's like ten degrees. It's just like sweet. 00:25:19 Speaker 4: Butter exactly, So you sort of go, what the hell am I eating? Like all three of us had to take some of the butter off because at a certain point you're just eating butter. 00:25:33 Speaker 2: It's too much. 00:25:34 Speaker 4: And then like with the vanilla ice cream, you're like, I just there's not enough contrast. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: I just don't. I just feel like I'm eating almost all cold butter. 00:25:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I like on a chocolate door. 00:25:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised they do it with vanilla, and as might work. Yeah, a pistachio might be good. 00:25:53 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: It's a tough. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: It's a tough I'm glad we tried it. I don't think we need to try it. 00:25:59 Speaker 2: Again, I wonder if this is one of those things though maybe like in ten years. Yeah, it's just everybody's halving it. I doubt it. 00:26:06 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm coming up with the business idea right now, and if anyone steals it, we're recording this so they know. 00:26:11 Speaker 2: Yes, this this happens all the time on the podcast. Lawsuits are lining up. 00:26:15 Speaker 3: Okay, good. 00:26:16 Speaker 4: You could have a place called dips, okay, where you can dip your ice cream in any number of things, right, even though the problem with my idea is that most things aren't really good to dip it in. 00:26:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, there aren't that many. 00:26:30 Speaker 4: Like what would you have I guess you could have caramel jam jam, but. 00:26:36 Speaker 3: It has to be something that would freeze on it, and. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: Has to be something that's fairly not too thick, because if you stick the ice cream it stuff fall apart. 00:26:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like whatever sauce you would normally put on ice cream if you just dipped stuff in it. Right, But there's just like we've already kind of is that the same as like ther with those dairy queen dip one? 00:26:56 Speaker 2: Right? 00:26:57 Speaker 3: Can you do more than just chocolate? 00:26:59 Speaker 2: Well, this is an interesting thing about Utah there's a kind of gross restaurant fast food chain called Arctic Circle, and they go, they're so bad, that's what you think. I think they boil their hamburgers. First of all, I don't know if that's confirmed or not. Okay, I've heard that rumor. But they have a dipped chocolate cone, but what they call it is a brown topper, which is like anytime I tell someone from outside of Utah there, what are you what? But they also I think they have like strawberry. I think they've like branched into other flavors that no one really cares, like banana. Yeah, it's like, I get why you tried. 00:27:34 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's why this business won't ever work is because nobody wants anything other than chocolate. 00:27:39 Speaker 2: Right, I'm trying to maybe peanut butter. 00:27:42 Speaker 4: Yeah that would be good, that would be very good, But how do you get it to freeze on there? 00:27:46 Speaker 2: It would have to be kind of a non peanut butter. 00:27:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd have to put so much, so many chemicals in it to get it to. 00:27:52 Speaker 2: Be so then it ends up tasting like one of those like cheap candies you buy it like CVS or something. Yeah, bad Easter chocolate or something. Yeah, yeah, but it's you're in a realm of a business concept. 00:28:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll keep working on my business. 00:28:10 Speaker 2: Or a listener's probably getting to it right now. Yeah, of course, then you're going to sue their ass off. 00:28:14 Speaker 3: But I really don't think that. 00:28:17 Speaker 4: I really don't think that this butter dipped ice cream is going to be like the next Barada. 00:28:21 Speaker 2: No, it's a stunt. It's a stunt stunt. Have you been to Libre in New York? I don't think I have unbelievable bakery. Oh really, And there's a place called Lecabra. They're both in the East Village that are. They're not pulling any stunts. They're not pulling stunt, just honest pastries, delish, unbelievable. But New York is kind of like they had that horrible cookie dough thing happening. Do you remember this where you'd get like cookie dough served you like ice cream. 00:28:48 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Actually that to me sounds great, but it has to be the kind it can't have egg in it. 00:28:58 Speaker 2: Right, right, So that's the thing. It's like probably not real cookie dough. It's some weird chemical things similar to do you know what. I had another business concept recently that had something to do with mashed potatoes. Oh what I was saying? And I actually think this is a good idea, and people are going to probably attack me. And I may have already said this, but you know, Tyer Banks had the hot ice cream. 00:29:19 Speaker 3: And how is it doing? 00:29:20 Speaker 2: Is it still? 00:29:22 Speaker 3: She got sued or something? 00:29:23 Speaker 2: Right, probably I'm probably for a lot of things but that I have not tried, but like tried to figure out. I got online and she's like, what are we talking about? Right? And it seems to be just like hot chocolate or something? But I thought, couldn't hot ice cream just be sweet mashed potatoes with different flavors in them? What do you think of that? 00:29:48 Speaker 3: I actually don't think it's a bad idea. 00:29:51 Speaker 4: You just have to take whatever you'd really have to make sure that the mashed potato flavor wasn't in there right consistency. 00:30:02 Speaker 3: But but you know, I think you shouldn't. 00:30:05 Speaker 2: Can I can? 00:30:06 Speaker 4: I kind of like riff on your idea. Yeah, I would love this business, So make it out of sweet potato, because then it's already right less savory, right, because you know how people put like marshmallow in sweet potatoes, so you're already like in the right direction where you could add sweet stuff to it. And also there's like sweet potato pie. 00:30:25 Speaker 2: There's all this category. 00:30:28 Speaker 4: I would just say my edit would be and I would like a percentage, but would be or just like like promote me, Oh sure, I mention yeah, yeah, like even if it's like not a financial. 00:30:43 Speaker 2: When I stole this idea from Vanessa, well, no. 00:30:46 Speaker 3: It's your idea. That's why I'm saying, I just want to be like promoted. 00:30:49 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, sure. But then the big problem is this do you call it? I think you would get sued if you call it ice cream because it's not. It is. But then it's like the marketing angle. You can't be like it's dessert potatoes. No one wants that. So it's that's I think the biggest thing you have to overcome. Right, You've got, you got. 00:31:10 Speaker 4: You just have to think of some creative branding because sweet potatoes already has sweet in the name, right, so. 00:31:16 Speaker 2: You can't call it sweet potatoes. Then people are like, well, that's just a restaurant of sweet potatoes. 00:31:24 Speaker 3: Sweet potatoes. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: It's something that we've got will workshop off podcast, we'll launch it in like a pop up in New York sweet potatoes. Oh interesting, we lose the idea that it's hot, right, which is tough. It's like because you want the novelty is that it's like hot ice cream, right right? 00:31:47 Speaker 3: Oh right? I forgot that you're making. 00:31:49 Speaker 4: It kind of to take down town and you could you could make cold sweet potato ice. 00:31:54 Speaker 2: Cream, yeah, for the summer, for. 00:31:57 Speaker 3: The summer, but I guess it would be better hot. 00:31:59 Speaker 2: And I think I might a hard really hard. I don't know what a frozen mashed potato is like. That seems like a hard category. But this is something and people do it with bananas too, if they like pure bananas into ice cream. 00:32:13 Speaker 4: Oh god, now we're going to get a thousand things on our phone about that. 00:32:16 Speaker 3: It's a good thing. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: I have a brick. Well, there's something else we probably should talk about. Sure, I was looking forward to having you on the podcast. Vanessa will come by. We'll have a nice time. No hard feelings. So the podcast is called I said no gifts. You've been on it before it was over zoom. Your brother Jonah was present, so I can understand why you might be a little confused. Yes, you showed up today holding a gift bag. Is that a gift for me? That is a gift for you? Okay, well should I open it here on the podcast? 00:32:49 Speaker 3: Sure, that would be great. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: It's in't an adorable bag, reuse it. This is We frequently dose bags on this podcast. 00:33:01 Speaker 3: Bags are expensive. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: They're extremely expense. 00:33:04 Speaker 3: I'm not complaining. 00:33:05 Speaker 2: You know, it sounds like you are. This does look like an expensive bag. 00:33:11 Speaker 3: You know. I think it came in a set. 00:33:14 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so cute set. 00:33:16 Speaker 3: A cute little set. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: Okay, well let's get into Oh we should say what it has on it. It's got little monkeys on it. Listener, cute monkeys. If you can picture a cute monkey. 00:33:24 Speaker 3: They reminded me of Bridger. 00:33:27 Speaker 2: And it's kind of a mint green. Yeah, reaching in here. Okay, I love these. This is a great pair of sunglasses from Santa Barbara. This is Santa Barbara on the side. I'm gonna wear these for the rest of the episode. I hope you do. 00:33:47 Speaker 3: I think they'll look great on you. 00:33:48 Speaker 2: Let's see here, Okay, tell me about what's going on here. 00:33:54 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you have to protect your eyes. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: You know. We're both very fair. Yes, our fair people's eyes more. 00:34:01 Speaker 4: I think that actually the fairrier eye color to it, Like everybody's eyes are very sensitive, so you have to be careful. But I think because you have light colored eyes, they're even more vulneratley actually look very good on you. And I think that then people will go, what a cool guy. And then when you turn to the right, look go when he likes Santa Barbara. 00:34:24 Speaker 2: And I don't know that anyone has no one I knows how to feel about Santa Barbara. I think I think some people are like, it's kind of boring, but it's nice, but they've got great shopping. 00:34:34 Speaker 4: It's Santa Barbara is such a I agree with you. You I don't know why I'm trying to add on. You said it perfectly. 00:34:45 Speaker 2: Did you get these while in Santa Barbara? 00:34:48 Speaker 3: I think so? 00:34:53 Speaker 2: When was the and I'm now just I want to say Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara. That seems that's a tough way say Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara, right, like Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara sounds like like a Santa Claus with a like a Barbara named Santa Barbara. That is a Santa Claus. Santa Barbara, right, it's like, you know, Barbara has put on her Santa. 00:35:15 Speaker 4: Costa and you know, remember Santa Barbara is who makes cartoons. 00:35:20 Speaker 2: No, that's Hannah Barbera, Right, that's right, Santa Barbara. That might be, but they'd make like flint zones they make. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: As soon as I said it, I thought, that's not right. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: It sounds close Santa like crooky. 00:35:38 Speaker 4: Some people will go, I was just in Santa Barbara last weekend, But really what they should say is I was just in Santa Barbara. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the context you just put it in made more sense. And I can take these off as soon as you want, because I feel like this could be make people uncomfortable. 00:35:53 Speaker 3: They actually look really cool. 00:35:56 Speaker 2: Maybe this is just the new part of the podcast. 00:35:59 Speaker 4: They match your out fit because the white on the ends match the white on your shirt. 00:36:04 Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm going to see it myself. 00:36:06 Speaker 3: Actually are a good shape on you. 00:36:08 Speaker 2: Let's see here. It's a good pair. I think this is a very class Do you have sunglasses? I have a lot of sunglas. 00:36:13 Speaker 3: Okay, good, you'll add this to your You're a little. 00:36:15 Speaker 2: Crooked right now, there we go. Yeah, this will go in my car, in my car. I have probably four to five different pairs of sunglasses. One is prescription for when I have my glasses on. 00:36:27 Speaker 4: Well, you know I'm crazy about sunglasses. Were you still in Palm Springs when we talked about when I had god glasses? 00:36:35 Speaker 2: We had. We had an interesting experience in Palm Springs. 00:36:37 Speaker 3: We really did. 00:36:39 Speaker 2: We kind of relate to Spencer Pratt in a huge way. Yes, we left Los Angeles when it was on fire. Yes, and stayed with our lovely friends Omily and Mark. Yes, they were very gracious, too great to take us in for way too long. Yes, they should have asked us to. 00:36:54 Speaker 3: Much longer than we expected. 00:36:56 Speaker 2: Yes, we could have hoped for Oh it was I mean, there are two are two angels. 00:37:01 Speaker 3: They are angel people. 00:37:03 Speaker 2: But while there you kind of made a pitch for a new type of sunglasses. 00:37:08 Speaker 3: Oh, I was gonna I lost my sunglasses. 00:37:11 Speaker 2: Wait. Oh so, but we ended up at a place that we had a big discussion about with a weird name. 00:37:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like Hula Daves or something that's so close. So what happened was I lost my ray band sunglasses? Yes, and I wanted to get the same kind. So Emily took me to this sunglasses store that was called I Believe Santa Barbara Sunglasses. 00:37:38 Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, Palm Spring Sunglasses. 00:37:41 Speaker 2: Okay, that would have been crazy, strange branding. They would have gone. 00:37:46 Speaker 3: Well, I could see I could see people. 00:37:48 Speaker 4: Attaching Santa Barbara to their name to kind of like maybe it should be Santa Barbara Hot Potato. 00:37:55 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a Malibu chicken sandwich. Did you ever have those? Our elementary schools serve something called the Malibu chicken sandwich, Oh my god, which was like a processed chicken paddy with I think a piece of hair. That's amazing, but it made it seem fun. 00:38:12 Speaker 4: Well, we went to Palm Spring Sunglasses and the guy there was so helpful and like really knowledgeable about sunglasses, so nice, and I was like, I'm looking for raybans. 00:38:23 Speaker 3: He kind of showed me the ray bance he had. 00:38:25 Speaker 4: I'm crazy about sun protection and about like my eyes being protected because my eyed actors, like, you have to buy really nice sunglasses, which those are. 00:38:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is kind of the ultimate I can stare. It's almost directly. 00:38:38 Speaker 3: The plastic they came wrapped in should show you. 00:38:41 Speaker 4: But but he's also like they should be thicker on the sides, like you shouldn't have like a thin So I. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: Know it's current. 00:38:50 Speaker 3: I know you're gonna have to get rid of those. 00:38:53 Speaker 2: I do think you can. 00:38:54 Speaker 4: Maybe buy little little uh like things side. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: That make you look like a dork. 00:39:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: But but so we were looking at what they had and they didn't have a ton and then he was like, you should try these, this pair of Maui gyms. 00:39:14 Speaker 2: I was so close. 00:39:15 Speaker 3: You were so close. 00:39:16 Speaker 2: What did you say? I think I said, Hula Dave, Yeah. 00:39:19 Speaker 3: You're so close. 00:39:20 Speaker 4: And we were like, okay, because it sounds like it's funny because it sounds like the name of sunglasses that are like like that kind of looked like those. 00:39:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, or like you would buy from like a Jimmy bufet Rest. 00:39:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly exactly Maui Jim's Maui Jim, come to find out. 00:39:37 Speaker 3: So these are the best sunglasses I've ever owned. 00:39:40 Speaker 2: Really. 00:39:40 Speaker 4: They the way depending on what color you get, like the way they brighten things even when you're in even when you're in like a darker area. It's like you could keep them on all the time. Now, I will say, in any kind of sunglass I have an issue, which is that I wear so much sunscreen that even and it's rubbed in and everything, it's somehow always gets on the lenses. So I always have to like, so all of my sunglasses are hard to see out. 00:40:04 Speaker 2: Of me because such is a total fall. 00:40:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I have to just clean them constantly. 00:40:09 Speaker 4: But these are the best sunglasses I've ever had, and Emily got into them. 00:40:15 Speaker 3: Emily got a pair of Maui Jim's. 00:40:18 Speaker 4: I believe that Mark sent me a Mali Jim's T shirt afterwards there as we said, they're the loveliest people, and so Maui Jim's is my new go to. And what's so crazy is that so many people like you were like, what the hell are you talking about? Cut to my eye doctor, I'm like, I just got a pair of Maui Jims. He was like, oh, Mauie Jim's aren't great, Like it's it's very like fifty to fifty like some people are like, of course Maui Jim's, and other people are like, what are you talking about. 00:40:44 Speaker 2: First of all, I had never heard that mentioned anywhere in my life until that time. And then when I heard it, I thought, oh, that's going to be garbage. 00:40:51 Speaker 3: Yes, because the name, yeah, they couldn't have picked. 00:40:55 Speaker 2: Sounds like a flip flop, right, I know, I know. 00:40:57 Speaker 4: But people either are like familiar with them and think they're great, or have no idea what they are and think that they, like you said, are sold it to Jimmy Buffett concert. 00:41:08 Speaker 2: I'm trying to I don't think I even I must have seen them. What's style are they? Are? They like ray Ban esque? I see you you can oh this is a very styl. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can see how dirty they are. 00:41:20 Speaker 2: It's impossible to clean a lens. 00:41:23 Speaker 3: I think so hard to clean. 00:41:24 Speaker 2: Glasses and sunglasses. I think get to a point that the grease and whatever on them is just kind of a permanent thing that you're moving around. 00:41:31 Speaker 4: Well, what he told us to do, the guy working there is he said you should take old school dawn and you should put it on a microfiber cloth. And he was like, and take the cloth and cut it up into a million pieces and then you can use it a few times each piece a few times. But like, anyway, I did that, but I bought a microfibercloth that kind of. 00:41:56 Speaker 3: It had sort of a shaggy texture. 00:41:58 Speaker 2: To it, so I got a bunch of those. 00:42:00 Speaker 4: I've got so I've got little pink pieces of cloth all over my sunglasses when I do it, and I'm like, this isn't working. 00:42:07 Speaker 3: But and then one of my because because I had the. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: Don I don't. I hope you have insurance because I have it. 00:42:17 Speaker 4: I was using it for my as my dishwashing wash, no sorry, as my as my like as my like hand dishes stuff, and someone told me, don't do that really, because I guess you can go on apps and I if don wants to do commercial with me. 00:42:39 Speaker 2: They cleaned the ducks. 00:42:40 Speaker 3: They cleaned the ducks. That was such a powerful. 00:42:46 Speaker 4: And the Bell have you seen that recently? Do you know what did you watch Save the Bell? Do you remember the episode where they were going to build they were going to build an oil tank refinery or something on campus. 00:43:02 Speaker 3: No, like the bad guys. 00:43:04 Speaker 4: They were going to come in and build an oil refinery and they were starting drilling, and Jesse, of course who's an environmentalist, was like, this is a bad idea. And I think they were like giving them, like your school will be so high tech, We'll give you all this money, and like, yeah, I don't even understand like where it was in relation to the school. But then there was this duck named Becky I believe, and Becky got covered. 00:43:29 Speaker 2: In oil and they showed it on the show. 00:43:31 Speaker 4: And they showed it, I mean it was obviously not a real dog okay. And they were like, and Zach was, you know how once it comes when they try and have like a sad moment where some someone or something dies and they they go like that, they won't accept it. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: Zach was like, no, she's not dead. 00:43:54 Speaker 4: She's just not breathing, like get the water off of her, like she's just and they were like, Zach, Becky's dead. 00:44:02 Speaker 2: It's so. 00:44:05 Speaker 4: The clip was like going around the internet recently around Instagram, which is why I have my brick. 00:44:10 Speaker 3: But it was like insacts like, no, you just have to watch beckymore like she'll be fine. 00:44:17 Speaker 4: She okay and very sad, but they learned that oil is bad. 00:44:26 Speaker 3: And it's not worth having a state of the art. Jim Caccio, I don't know so that you can have. 00:44:36 Speaker 2: How was this villain even introduced the show? 00:44:39 Speaker 3: It was like, you know, I mean the kind of ship that we. 00:44:44 Speaker 2: Watched at that time, where it does not matter. 00:44:48 Speaker 4: What the idea is can I tell you something you know we've talked about this I think is that I still watch General Hospital. 00:44:55 Speaker 2: No, but I just got a vintage General Hospital jacket. Oh it's my favorite. A piece of what kind is it? Like a bomber jack? It's like a what are those ones that are like varsity kind of sporty looking, but it's not varsity kind of like a base Is it a baseball jacket? Got it? 00:45:11 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, maybe yeah, but. 00:45:13 Speaker 2: It's like an old General Hospital crew jacket. 00:45:15 Speaker 3: That is incredible. It looks great, that sounds great. 00:45:21 Speaker 4: General Hospital if you watched it now, they haven't updated any of their plotlines or sets or anything so that you it's like they just sort of exist and they're our viewers will accept it. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. And in the same way that in Saved by the Bell, like the sort of like slick looking, smooth talking oil guys come into the school and you like know they're bad guys, but they're like charming Zach because he plays kind of a like guy who's won over very easily, like a dumb team. 00:45:57 Speaker 1: Right. 00:46:00 Speaker 4: General Hospital does that too, where they're like, this guy's a gangster. 00:46:05 Speaker 1: Guy. 00:46:06 Speaker 4: This guy, yes, this guy, this guy runs the town crime stuff. This person is good. It's so refreshation, very pure about that. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: It's great. I love watching it. It's just so. 00:46:20 Speaker 4: And although sometimes they will try and like steal from popular shows and kind of like do similar storylines, but like they never quite get it right. 00:46:29 Speaker 2: And I like that. Wait, are you the person who showed me wasn't General Hospital where Colonel Sanders. 00:46:35 Speaker 3: Yes, I showed that to you, Colonel Sander. 00:46:37 Speaker 4: By the way, I think the people on it are very talented. Sure, but they have to do stuff like for example, I told you I showed you this. They clearly had a sponsorship with Colonel Sanders. Colonel Sanders, comes on, it's George, the very tan guy actor. Anyway, you know, there's always like a different This is when I learned George Hamilton, thank you. There's always a different Colonel Sanders, Like I don't know if there is one right now. 00:47:09 Speaker 2: Reebob was one at one point. 00:47:11 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're right. By the way, Reba can do no wrong. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: I can truly do it all that makes it, you know what I mean? 00:47:17 Speaker 4: Then I go, okay, it's cool, yeah, of course, but so Colonel Sanders played by George Hamilton comes on. He is the Syndicate is trying to steal his secret recipe for fried chicken, and so he needs to go visit. He's for some reason very good friends with this character Maxie, and he needs her to take the recipe that he has written on this like note card in this envelope. And she has like one of those books that like it's not really a book, it's really a box. Oh yeah, she opens it, she puts it in there, and she promises never to look at it, which it's like. 00:47:52 Speaker 2: What, And he's it's not like a dream, it's not a hallucination. He's just part of the universe. And he's being like trailed by the syndicate. 00:48:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he's like he he says like he's there's like a warlock somehow. And then but then Maxie's friend, what's the friend's name. Maxie's friend is like Lulu. She is like a journalist and she's like, I want to do a story on you, Colonel Sanders, and like what's going on? And he's like, some things you can't like need to stay secret. And she's like dealing with this awful stuff like in the store. Other parts of the storyline, like she's like, basically Maxie had Colonel Sanders come over also unclear to like cheer Lulu up, because Lulu's. 00:48:41 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I like it's like somebody died or somebody crazy. But it's like, oh, of course, bring in Colonel Sanders. That'll make everything better. 00:48:51 Speaker 4: And then he leaves and Lulu, this talented actress who was I thinking bring it on too, Okay, she has to go, oh, my god, that's the coolest person I've ever met in my life. And you go years of acting school, like these people are talented. 00:49:07 Speaker 2: Actors and they've worked so hard to get there, so. 00:49:10 Speaker 4: Hard, and they're so good, and they show up every day and they work so hard, and they have to do a scene with Colonel Sanders. 00:49:17 Speaker 2: Calling him the coolest guy. 00:49:18 Speaker 3: And she has to say, this is the coolest guy I've ever met. 00:49:20 Speaker 2: I go, I don't. 00:49:22 Speaker 4: By the way, They've replaced the actress who plays that character, and I I'm like, good for her. 00:49:29 Speaker 2: You know, oh, because she moved on. 00:49:31 Speaker 3: She didn't move on right after that, but. 00:49:34 Speaker 4: At some point she went into a coma a couple of years ago, and she just came out a different. 00:49:39 Speaker 2: As they should have. Colonel back. 00:49:42 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean it depends if I mean it would be I think tough if it was Reba. 00:49:46 Speaker 3: I think if it was Riba, she would be like no. 00:49:49 Speaker 2: No, I mean she's on uh Rebud's Place. 00:49:52 Speaker 3: Happy, Happy place Happy. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: The thing about. 00:49:56 Speaker 4: Riba is like she's never gonna not have work. It's like she's so beloved. I mean, she's I'm. 00:50:03 Speaker 2: Thrilled for her. People just adore her, people adore Everybody kind of just agrees on Riba for kind of whatever reason, just because she's Riba. 00:50:11 Speaker 4: She's also like when she was on Riba the show Reba right, because. 00:50:16 Speaker 3: I will say I'm not as familiar. 00:50:18 Speaker 2: With Happy's Place. No, I'm not either, but she's really good on Riba. She's a great she's a performer. 00:50:24 Speaker 4: She's a great like comedic actress, like you know, she's like, oh boy. 00:50:29 Speaker 2: The only episode of Riba I've seen is the Christmas special, and I think there's something about Riba not believing a man. I think there's an unhoused man who's she thinks is claiming to be Santa Claus and she dumps hot graziness. Laugh. I don't remember exactly how all that comes together, but it's there's some elements where I thought this seems interesting for a Christmas episode. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: Totally totally yeah. 00:50:54 Speaker 4: I mean I can't speak to but here's what I will say. Do you remember in Riba that like the daughter had like this boyfriend who was always around, who was sort of a dumb guy. Okay, this actor is blowing up right now. He is I have Well, this is something we should look up as the boyfriend on Riba, not RIBA's boyfriend, her daughter's boyfriend. He is in high potential. He plays like the new boss. He plays the boss and high potential. He also have you seen off campus or heard about it? 00:51:29 Speaker 2: Oh, this is the smut Yes? 00:51:32 Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to say anything bad about it because it's one of my favorite shows. 00:51:38 Speaker 2: Of all time. It's kind of a smutty show, well in a good way. 00:51:41 Speaker 3: It's it's witten. 00:51:43 Speaker 4: It's written by women and women like and it's very nostalgic, and they write all of the men are written how a woman would want a man to be, in the sense that they're. 00:51:54 Speaker 2: Like, not scumbag, that's asking. 00:52:01 Speaker 3: And it's actually very good. 00:52:04 Speaker 2: People love this I'm. 00:52:05 Speaker 4: Like turning red as I'm telling you about it because I'm embarrassed to be like so publicly saying how much I love it because I'm in my forties. But but it's people love it. 00:52:13 Speaker 2: It's kind of like heated rivalry. 00:52:15 Speaker 4: It's it's absolutely it's like the next heated rivalry. 00:52:18 Speaker 2: It's the next. 00:52:18 Speaker 4: But cut to the main character has a very difficult relationship with his dad played by Steve Howie boyfriend in Riba. Wow, So this guy it's the same guy, right? 00:52:30 Speaker 1: Sure? 00:52:30 Speaker 2: Is he is? 00:52:32 Speaker 4: He is like hitting Up so High Potential is like one of the most popular shows on network television, like the most very good, like procedural but funny. And then Off Campus is like the number one show on Amazon. 00:52:47 Speaker 2: He is like, I got to be number three on the Star Made. 00:52:49 Speaker 4: I want to I'm dump in my age and I want to go with his I'm kidding because I do like my all my representation. 00:52:54 Speaker 3: But it's just like he's like hitting these. 00:52:57 Speaker 4: Huge shows and you go, I remember when you were like the dumb brother, I mean the dumb boyfriend on Riba. 00:53:04 Speaker 2: Think how long ago that was. Think of his journey to this. 00:53:08 Speaker 4: And like of all the people, because remember RIBA's friend, who I think is also on Happiest Place. 00:53:13 Speaker 2: You keep asking me to remember elements of Riba and I'm just not going to. 00:53:16 Speaker 4: I think the same actress now, I'd like to confirm this who was like the friend, her best friend or something on Riba is her best friend on Happiest Place. 00:53:24 Speaker 2: Which is so nice. That's really nice woman, I think. 00:53:28 Speaker 3: And she's very talented to Peterman, is she on both shows? 00:53:31 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:53:32 Speaker 4: Oh, so she is doing great. But it's like if you watch that show to be like, oh, the boyfriend is the one who's going to like go on and be like I mean, and this is all within the last. 00:53:43 Speaker 2: Like two years, right, very recently. 00:53:46 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm thrilled for him. 00:53:47 Speaker 4: He's he plays a very unlikable kind of unlikable on both shows in a good way though, but in a good way. He's very he's a good he's a very good actor. 00:53:56 Speaker 2: Was he an unlikable boyfriend in Riba? No? 00:53:58 Speaker 4: Inriba, my recollection of him is that he was likable but very dumb. So it's like but like dumb, Like it's like I'm trying to think of another show that had a character like that. 00:54:10 Speaker 2: Maybe like Joey and Friends. 00:54:12 Speaker 3: Except it's like it was a character that like really wasn't like. 00:54:17 Speaker 4: Of my recollection of Riba and I guess we've spent way too long on Riba, but like my recollection is like he was definitely like heavily recurring, but he wasn't like a main part of right, you know. 00:54:27 Speaker 2: What I mean? He would just show up on occasions. It's like it's like. 00:54:30 Speaker 4: If DJ's boyfriend. All of a sudden, you're seeing Steve in like succession. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: Where is Steve by the way, I mean, Elice, can we look into Steve? Where Steve is? I mean hopefully he hasn't taken the same turn as DJ, because. 00:54:49 Speaker 6: Canda Minor the voice of Aladdin, he's. 00:54:53 Speaker 4: Oh god, I forgot this year Laddin, and then that's it. 00:55:00 Speaker 2: That's all he needs kind of can you look up. 00:55:03 Speaker 3: His net worth? 00:55:06 Speaker 6: Hi? 00:55:07 Speaker 3: She's a coep on Paradise. 00:55:10 Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa. That's that's actually kind of crazy. What a trajectory that's a role? 00:55:16 Speaker 4: So God, I don't know, it's maybe there's something about like they got to like experience the success of the shows they were on, but without having to be like highly like looked at like they hounded, pounded, like they got to kind of like get through it and like kind of learn from it. I'm making this all up, learn from it but not but like in a way that like didn't affect them. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: Right, They got to like be in the business but lead a normal life. Yeah, and they were probably teenagers, by the way. 00:55:47 Speaker 4: I want to back up to something you said earlier, which is I hope you didn't go the way of dj DJ's doing quite. 00:55:51 Speaker 2: Well because she is, uh, she's the devil. Wait, she is. Candice Cameron is burder. 00:56:00 Speaker 4: She has. 00:56:00 Speaker 3: All I know about her is that she has a clothing line in QVC. 00:56:05 Speaker 2: Is she bad? She's so bad. She's like in a way that's like poisonous. Oh okay, okay, And she's I think, kind of nasty about it. I think she was trying to launch like a streaming service that wouldn't have gay people on. 00:56:17 Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, I take it back, I take it. 00:56:20 Speaker 2: You love her, take it back. 00:56:21 Speaker 4: The thing is all I knew is that she had a clothing line on KVC, and it looked like, you know, it's not stuff that I would buy. 00:56:29 Speaker 3: But I was like, you know, okay, so she's doing that. 00:56:32 Speaker 4: But yeah, I do know. I know her brother Kirk has gone, so they must be they're quite. 00:56:40 Speaker 2: Get back. 00:56:40 Speaker 4: And I don't support Candice Cameron Beret is that her last name? 00:56:45 Speaker 2: I have no, it's b u r E. Is that butter bummer? That's so sad. At least the. 00:56:51 Speaker 4: Other girls, they've all kind of Tony Sweeten had that book, and I feel like Josie. 00:56:56 Speaker 2: Sweeten, Jody Jody, I think she's like she's she's like a normal adult, normal adult. 00:57:03 Speaker 4: And Mary Kate Nashley, I mean, they love I love that they were. 00:57:07 Speaker 2: Like, we're not doing a reboot. It's crazy. They're so powerful. 00:57:11 Speaker 3: They're so powerful, like they could buy and sell. 00:57:14 Speaker 2: That reboot the Bllionaires over I don't. 00:57:17 Speaker 4: I don't know how rich they are, but I do know that, like if you try and buy a shirt from the Row, it's like two thousand. 00:57:23 Speaker 2: Dollars, unbelievable. That's what Candace wants. 00:57:25 Speaker 4: That's what Candace wants. But Candace is over here peddling or. 00:57:29 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, come on, Candace, you still have time. 00:57:35 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it so odd, isn't it. 00:57:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, that family must have just been like weirdly weird people in the beginning because they're so like nasty about it. 00:57:48 Speaker 4: And who would have thought that the one that would go to prison would be someone didn't Lori Laughlin have to go to That's right? Yeah, who because of scandal, because of the college. Who would think Aunt Becky goes to prison? 00:58:00 Speaker 2: She has such a good heart. 00:58:01 Speaker 3: And what's his name? 00:58:03 Speaker 4: The boyfriend is Aladdin and now he's a co ep on Paradise, you know what. 00:58:09 Speaker 3: That's right, that does make sense, that makes sense. 00:58:13 Speaker 4: I'm sorry that I was being so positive about Candace Cameron Bret. 00:58:17 Speaker 2: I didn't know she was a little demon, and isn't she Maybe she was on like The Talk or something at some point or the View and she was kind of the person that was just horriblevative. 00:58:28 Speaker 3: Although I did know that her. 00:58:29 Speaker 2: Brother is like, she's like a like he probably runs the creationist Museum or something. 00:58:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's so weird, like I think, very trumpy psychos. 00:58:42 Speaker 2: But she's got a clothing line and she's she's ruined a legacy essentially. Sorry, Candace. I've been to Jeff Franklin's house, the creator of Full House. You have it was It's built on the Sharon Tate state they bulldozed the Manson murder house and built kind of a tacky Vegas style mansion with a shark tank in it. And this was before he was then outed for various I think me too crimes. 00:59:15 Speaker 4: Because I don't know anything about him. And was he in charge when the reboot came back? 00:59:20 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:59:20 Speaker 3: So did all of this stuff happen? 00:59:23 Speaker 2: Did he get it was after the stuff came out after the reboot? Was wow? So recent? Kind of pretty recent? Yeah, And I could have told you after going to his house there's something going on with this. 00:59:32 Speaker 3: There's a shark tank in there. 00:59:34 Speaker 2: You kind of know. He has a wall of Elvis plates. So it's a little like this guy is something's going on. 00:59:40 Speaker 4: And also to pick that plot of land, Yeah, it's just if you have the money, you simply find. 00:59:47 Speaker 2: A different Yeah, why do you want a haunted piece of land? Yeah? It was, there was a dark vibe. It was not an interesting I mean it was an interesting experience. I had a cold saw at the time. Also kill me. Oh God, can you imagine cold sar at Jeff Franklin's mansion? Not your book nightmare? I should say I should clarify. The reason I was there was for the most normal reason you can some sort of the Ileana Douglas, you know who that is. She was in like Cape Fear and various earlies to the nineties. She would do these things called living room shows through LA to raise money for various things. And my boyfriend Jim would sing in them on occasion, and so he was part of that and I was there. Wow, this is like three weeks into meeting him. So it's really a surreal part of early dating. And I had a cold star once again. Nightmare. Okay, I've got my sunglasses. I think we should play a game. We're gonna play a game called I actually have to take these off at this point too. Darkness the other extreme just blind. 01:00:59 Speaker 4: Maybe only wear those like on the beach and somewhere where you each don't have to drive. If there's on the beach, tell me about it. 01:01:06 Speaker 2: Do you go to the beach. 01:01:07 Speaker 4: If I go to the beach, I just wear like long sleep bathing suit, long pants. 01:01:11 Speaker 2: I can't have a beach experience, so it's really not for me. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like I'm watching everybody else kind of enjoy themselves, right, So that I'm just worried. Yeah, yeah, I need to be able to hang. 01:01:21 Speaker 3: Loose, right, you need to be able to hang ten. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: Hang ten, and surf's up. We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse, but I need a number between one and ten for three. Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. 01:01:35 Speaker 3: Oh of my stuff? 01:01:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you want? Okay. 01:01:38 Speaker 4: Where to start? Well, I've got a podcast called How Did We Get Weird? That I do with my brother Jonah Bridger's been on it. We talk about nostalgic things. We have some very fun episodes coming out and it's a lot of fun and you can find it wherever you get your podcasts. Again, it's called How Did We Get Weird? If you're watching the Scrubs reboot, I'm in that, so you can see me in that. And also I'm in Hoppers that I'm the Shark, Diane, she jumps on the car spoiler. 01:02:15 Speaker 2: You kind of steal the movie. That was so nice of you to say. I think everyone loves the Shark. 01:02:21 Speaker 3: Well, one thing. 01:02:22 Speaker 4: I'm very impressed with is that there's shark for not being in the film very much. There's a shark, there's like plusy you can buy. 01:02:30 Speaker 2: It's kind of like the big thing of it's a big set piece. 01:02:35 Speaker 4: Yes, and that's really all that's out in this moment. 01:02:41 Speaker 2: Oh, Maddie's Secret. Oh my god, I forgot Oh. I can't wait to see. 01:02:45 Speaker 4: Maddy's Secret comes out at the end of June in New York and l A. And I'm not sure when it's coming out in other cities, although I think it will. But John Early's directorial debut stars in it. Wrote it it's I really think you're gonna I think everyone's gonna love it. 01:02:59 Speaker 2: Bridge, I think you're gonna John is one of our all time best. I mean the cast is like just it's crazy. 01:03:05 Speaker 4: Yes, are all time Blan Claudio Doherty, Connor Roman, It's it's crazy, believe. 01:03:10 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see. People have got to see that when they. 01:03:12 Speaker 3: Can, when you can, when you have time, when. 01:03:15 Speaker 2: You've got time, if you find a minute in your. 01:03:16 Speaker 3: Schedule, you'll find some time for it. 01:03:19 Speaker 2: Okay, this is how we play Gift or a Curse. Do I have anything to recommend? 01:03:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you want to recommend? 01:03:24 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there's anything I've got that I've seen recently. I watched Contagion last night. Oh. Actually, speaking of characters, I mean, there's essentially the Zach and the Duck situation, but it's Matt Damon and Gwyneth Paltrow. I'm saying, my wife's not dead. My wife's not dead. It's very much like the Duck. 01:03:40 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, so they probably stole them from absolutely. 01:03:45 Speaker 2: Okay, this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. Okay, you'll tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why, Okay, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Okay, there are correct answers. Okay, Okay. This first one is from a listener named Carinn. Gift or a Curse group chats. 01:04:01 Speaker 3: Now, I just want to clarify what they are. I think like a text. 01:04:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what we're talking about. 01:04:07 Speaker 4: I think even though it's nice for a bunch of people to connect, I think overall they are a curse because sometimes you'll look at your phone and you have a thousand texts and you have to catch up, and it can be stressful. So I think it's nice. They're nice in theory, but in practice they are a curse. 01:04:26 Speaker 2: Correct, I completely agree. Okay, I find them so overwhelming most of the tests. It doesn't the juice is not worth the squeeze, as they say, when they're fun, they're fun for a minute, but then you leave your phone and if I see a bunch of like ninety five texts, my heart starts raising and you don't really know how to respond exactly. 01:04:46 Speaker 4: I almost think that, And I know that I was talking about how I stay off Instagram so much. I almost think that those threads are better because somehow people don't like jump on as easily. 01:04:56 Speaker 2: I don't know, right, but I. 01:04:57 Speaker 4: Think over texts, it's so stressful to return to your phone and there's a million times. 01:05:01 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And then like sometimes I'm like then reacting to various ones, Well, no one actually cares about. 01:05:06 Speaker 4: That, and then everybody sees Vanessa Hart at a thing and they're. 01:05:10 Speaker 2: Pissed, they're getting angrier and a. 01:05:13 Speaker 3: They're like, you did it too late, just let it go. 01:05:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I'm happy to be part of the most of the time, but I prefer one on it's kind of like a party to me, I like, would rather just go to dinner with one friend on right, otherwise I'm overwhelmed. I hear you. Okay, I've gotten one right, so far, very good. The next one is from a listener named Annie. Gift or a curse. When producers get involved on camera on reality. 01:05:37 Speaker 4: Shows, it's usually a gift, and I'll tell you why. It usually means something crazy is happening, because I feel like they only step in if things are like really insane or like somebody's like, I guess the in the way, I like to sort of see a peak behind the camera. So like, for example, if like somebody is like is like I'm gonna leave, I'm leaving. 01:06:04 Speaker 3: This is I'm I'm out of here, I'm leaving, and then. 01:06:06 Speaker 4: The producer has to come out and be like stay, it's okay, it's okay, you're okay. 01:06:10 Speaker 3: Then you're like, this is entertaining. 01:06:12 Speaker 2: It's like the peak of the show. Yeah. So I feel like. 01:06:17 Speaker 4: In general, although there are times when it's like there's some kind of like actual like physical fighting and stuff, and that's always like you're like, that's not you know, But in general, because it means always like something very unscripted is happening on these shows that can feel sometimes sort of scripted. 01:06:39 Speaker 3: I think it's a. 01:06:40 Speaker 2: Gift correct over on the same page here, I mean, I'm picturing Salt Lake City Housewives. I'm picturing Heather's storing off while on vacation producer. She's sobbing trying to catch a cab. That's entertaining. Yes, I watched Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I'm constantly talking about executive producer Russell Jason Staglick. He only appeared once, but he was stirring the pot, and I liked that. 01:07:04 Speaker 3: Bridger I haven't gotten on board with that. 01:07:06 Speaker 2: Should I watch? What should I watch it? 01:07:08 Speaker 3: Or and or what parts should I watch? 01:07:10 Speaker 2: It's an interesting show to recommend. This is, This Is. It's kind of hard to watch, but once you get into the rhythm of it, you're like, no show offers the amount of drama per pound that this every three minutes. Yeah, most you're seeing a shocking new drama. Someone is going through something huge, So every episode feels like it's probably ninety hours long, when in fact it's okay, forty five minutes. Okay, But then I'll go back and watch Real Housewives, and I'm like, nothing happens on this show, right, they go to lunch twice and have a mild fight. 01:07:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that, but yeah. 01:07:45 Speaker 2: It's I think you could get into it if you just have to like condition, I like recommending something where you're like, you basically just have to break yourself. 01:07:53 Speaker 4: Well, I know you cover it quite extensively, and I know very Yeah, and who better. 01:07:59 Speaker 2: I'm kind of the experts. Yeah, they should be paying me. I should be brought in as the host of the reunions at bare minimum. 01:08:06 Speaker 4: They really actually should do that. I hope they can. I hope they're hearing that. 01:08:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. The closest I've come so far is kind of former fan favorite Taylor. Frankie Paul liked one of my posts amazing. She's kind of she's been slowly ejected from her but I think she's coming back. Okay. 01:08:25 Speaker 4: Well, I hope for everyone in her family's sake that that's good. 01:08:30 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, You've got two correct so far. And this final one is from a listener named Sydney. And this is kind of a concept I'm not super familiar with, but we'll see, we'll move through it. Gift or curse when your boss says they volunt told you for a terrible project and then laughs like they made up that phrase. Have you heard of voluntel? 01:08:50 Speaker 3: No, I thought you said it wrong. 01:08:52 Speaker 2: It's a crooky situation. We're getting too much into this shit voluntold. When this was submitted, I looked it up and I think this is a recent phino another workplace, which is kind of like an annoying thing bosses do where they basically assign you to something but then are like acting like you volunteered to do it and so they told you to. Yeah, I'm not like the context of it makes no sense whatever to me. 01:09:18 Speaker 4: So this person is saying they volunteered you, and the boss is like, it's it's it's gonna suck. 01:09:24 Speaker 2: Ha ha ha. The boss is like, ha ha ha, I'm so funny that I use this word volunteered. 01:09:31 Speaker 3: Oh so the boss is actually using the word. 01:09:34 Speaker 2: Yes, And I guess it is horrible. 01:09:38 Speaker 4: It's obviously a curse. I mean, I don't know what could be a blessing or a gift. Sorry, I don't know what could be a gift about it sounds, first of all, it so feels so like condescending to like use kind of a new gen Z term if you're a boss, even if you are a gen Z boss, Yeah, they know they're a Sarmony is the real word, volunteering you for something that is annoying or bad. I like, I don't even know. It's almost like being like getting in a car accident. Is that a gift or it's like it's like, of course it's a curse. 01:10:18 Speaker 2: Wrong. 01:10:19 Speaker 3: Wrong. 01:10:20 Speaker 2: This one, to me is a clear gift because basically what you're saying, I can't imagine any person who's not immediately the enemy. I mean, they really out themselves as you are, unforgivable. 01:10:32 Speaker 4: Oh so you're saying they're showing their true self, So it's a gift. 01:10:35 Speaker 2: I can't imagine this. There's no middle ground with this one saying voluntold Like, who thinks that's a good idea? I mean again, I haven't experienced it. Wouldn't that then be a curse? Well? I just think, well, now everybody gets it's nice in the workplace to have a common enemy, and so they've kind of like, well, this person is detestable. 01:10:53 Speaker 4: You've thought through it several steps, and you are you couldn't be more right. Nothing bonds people more old person who says voluntold or is just a nightmare that is. Isn't that funny that that is like the universal thing any job I've ever been at, if there is a bad person, you are like, we're all great and we're all going to talk about them, and it's gonna end they and because they are so bad, it's not going to hurt their feelings there because they don't even they're so not self aware. 01:11:28 Speaker 2: I think almost every job should have one. I think a smart boss brings in a villain kind of a mark, you know, or what's the phrase in wrestling? A what's that thing that they call the person who's the villain and wrestling? Why am I trying to figure out? 01:11:45 Speaker 3: I think it would be villain? 01:11:47 Speaker 2: A heel, A heel? He Yes, I think a heel is a good thing to have at the work. I think I think for sure, you're right, You're right. 01:11:54 Speaker 4: It's that person is basically voluntolding themselves that they're the heel. 01:11:58 Speaker 2: Yeah. Total, I'm god. I hope I don't run into somebody doing that to me. I don't. I really don't know what I would do well, you got two out of three? 01:12:06 Speaker 3: Would you ever say would you ever say it. 01:12:10 Speaker 4: In a different way, like would you ever go, Oh, my boss volunt told me that I have to do this thing. Is that how you would say it? Or or do you only use it when you're doing it? 01:12:19 Speaker 2: It seems like an impossible word to use, like verb wise, it makes no sense to me, voluntold, Yeah, because it's like if I'm saying it to you, I volunteered you to take out the garbage. It's not like it's almost past tense. Yeah. Maybe it's like you're it seems past tense, right, like you say to the other horrible bosses, I volunteered them to do this. Yeah, because you can't say it presently. 01:12:44 Speaker 3: Unless you said I'm going to volunteer them that you want to do it. 01:12:47 Speaker 2: Oh, volunte It starts to sound like show and tell. Yeah, v crook territories, Ellis, have you ever heard of volunteered? Not until today. I looked it up and it seems to be a new phenomenon. Yeah, we gotta nip that in the bud. I really do. Well. Let's answer a listener question. Okay, people are begging, they're writing into I said no, gifts at gmail dot com just desperate for answers. Okay, this is high Bridger. They don't mention you. My parents gave me a couch original retail about eight K wow three I roll emojis. Every couch I've ever purchased has been used and not more than two hundred dollars. They grew tired of the couch and spent two K to have it shipped to me. When I found out how much it would cost, I implored them to cancel delivery, but to no avail anyway. I now have this burden of a nice couch. I'm a person who hasn't exactly found home yet and move almost yearly. It's such a fucking hassle. Okay, getting a little nasty. I've spent more than I ever would on a couch to have this beast moved from apartment to apartment? Is this my curse for the rest of my life? Thanks for the advice your guests can rot now this is This person's got a bad ad. 01:14:00 Speaker 3: I don't like this person's attitude one bit. 01:14:02 Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't appreciate this. It's cruel. And her name's Lisa. If we want a name her. Her name's Lisa. Lisa comes in begging for help and also just insulting. Let's try to avoid that and talk about this couch an eight thousand dollars ten thousand dollars total after this ship is. Yeah. 01:14:21 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I want to say, with an attitude like Lisa, there's no couch. 01:14:25 Speaker 2: That's gonna You'll never be happy. 01:14:28 Speaker 3: The couch isn't the problem. 01:14:30 Speaker 4: And I'm sorry to come so directly at you, Lisa, but I think I think that's where we start. 01:14:36 Speaker 2: Get a mirror, Yeah, get an eight thousand dollars. Yeah, maybe, yeah, this is I mean, it's hard for me to look past that, but I mean, I'm the thing I'm seeing is Lisa is somebody who's causing her own issues. If I'm if I'm shipped an eight thousand dollars couch obviously for I Kia or living spaces, this is eight thousand, I'm selling it immediately. 01:15:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not. 01:15:05 Speaker 2: I don't care what my parents think. I'm saying Craigslist, I have a couch for five hundred dollars originally eight k retail. I'm not entirely sure. I think Lisa is desperate for attention. 01:15:19 Speaker 4: Well, it seems like Lisa feels some kind of some kind of responsibility to her parents, which is keeping her from selling the couch. Like it seems like she her parents didn't It's not her parents didn't want it anymore. Doesn't sell like her parents were like, this is our favorite couch, we have to keep it in the family. Like it seems like they didn't want it. So why does she I agree? It's like, either sell it and stop talking about it, or if you're so, if you feel so guilty about getting rid of it, then just keep it in. 01:15:52 Speaker 2: Stop talking about it. 01:15:54 Speaker 3: So either those stop talking about it. 01:15:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, just find a place for it to be. 01:16:00 Speaker 4: Like Lisa has told me to rot, which is the first time anyone's ever said that to me about me. And so I don't have like a ton of patients for this person. Neither of you are. 01:16:13 Speaker 2: I have to defend you, thank you. I have to stand in the way here and say, Lisa, you crossed a line. I know you're in a bad mood about moving a couch all the time, obviously on the lamb or something. She's a drifter, let's say it. She's a drifter with an expensive couch. 01:16:27 Speaker 4: I think Lisa needs to figure out where do I want to live? 01:16:30 Speaker 2: And do I want this couch there? She needs to find out who she is. Yeah. 01:16:34 Speaker 3: Also, guess what's more of a nightmare than an eight thousand dollars couch moving once a year? 01:16:39 Speaker 2: Yeah? Stop moving? 01:16:40 Speaker 3: Stop moving? That's expensive too. 01:16:43 Speaker 2: What are you running from? What are you running from? Lisa? And she's moving, she's running to space is big enough for a couch, So it's like she obviously has stuff. 01:16:51 Speaker 4: I thought her issue was going to be this couch doesn't fit in my place. It sounds like you got space for an eight thousand dollars couch. 01:16:56 Speaker 2: You're doing okay, Yeah, mansioned a mansion. 01:16:59 Speaker 4: Look, get it in a different way, Lisa, you're doing pretty well. Maybe stop moving and get rid of the couch if you hate it so much, and stop talking. 01:17:10 Speaker 3: About it, and stop being rude to people you don't even know. 01:17:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfair. Yeah, ultimately an unfair person, and her parents were right to burden her with a piece of expensive furniture. What a fool, don't write back in Lisa, Well, we answered the question perfectly, and Lisa's problem is solved. That's great. If she will just face it. 01:17:30 Speaker 3: She just needs to face her problem. 01:17:33 Speaker 2: Face herself, which is herself, which is probably hard to do because she writes nasty emails. But whatever, Steely, Well, I've got my new pair of shades. Santa Barbara. It's so hard to put these on with head with headphones. That's fine. I've had such a lovely time with you. 01:17:51 Speaker 5: Oh, it's been a delight. Bridger, thank you for being here, Fanis, thank you for having me. Listener, I've got my sunglasses on. I'm ready to write off to Santa Barbara. Get into a Santa Barbara mindset. 01:18:03 Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. 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