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Speaker 1: Welcome to the official Pod. Eric Ellen here in studio

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Speaker 1: with Jets assistant GM Rex Hogan Rex, What is this

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Speaker 1: week like from your perspective, because you've got to get

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Speaker 1: down to fifty three and then you look at waivers

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Speaker 1: and then you have to assemble a practice squad. I

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Speaker 1: gotta be quite busy. Yeah, it's wild, it's it's fun.

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Speaker 1: It's a we call it the second draft, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: because you're getting another opportunity the waiver wire. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: they flood it with you know, several hundred thousand players

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Speaker 1: and names that are out there, and and our our

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Speaker 1: pro staff does a tremendous job, starting with Chat Alexander

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Speaker 1: and Greg Nasuma and the rest of our pro scouts

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Speaker 1: getting things organized and evaluating and putting it all together

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Speaker 1: for us to be able to to condense the list

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Speaker 1: downs and work through it. So last night not a

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Speaker 1: lot of sleep, and uh, you know, it's tough. You're

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Speaker 1: going through making the cutdowns and it's really tough and challenging,

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Speaker 1: especially the way that the roster has grown. And we've

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Speaker 1: grown the roster and developed the players. So it's been wild.

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Speaker 1: So what are those meetings like? And Joe Douglas just

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Speaker 1: talked about it with you downstairs addressing the media here

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Speaker 1: at one Jets Drive. Where is you got position coaches

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Speaker 1: talking about they can't have enough players, right You got

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Speaker 1: brand Boyer, who is looking from a special team's perspective, Rightley,

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Speaker 1: So you got you guys who've either had a hand

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Speaker 1: and bringing these guys in or help scout early on.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the coaching staff Robert sala Uh, juts, GM,

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Speaker 1: Joe Douglas, everybody's got to say, what are those meanings? Like? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's really a running dialogue. After each one of the

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Speaker 1: preseason games, we get together with the player personnel staff

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Speaker 1: and the coaching staff and we go through their rankings

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Speaker 1: of the players, how we see the players on the

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Speaker 1: practice few how they see it, and then leading up

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Speaker 1: to the game, how they performed in the game. So

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Speaker 1: each week of the three preseason games, we they kind

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Speaker 1: of build this, you know, vision in our mind of

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Speaker 1: of who's progressing, who needs to make some improvements, And

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Speaker 1: by the time you get to the those final meetings,

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Speaker 1: it's not just a total download of information. We we've

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Speaker 1: worked up to it and and have kind of in

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Speaker 1: our minds which direction we're gonna go do you guys

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Speaker 1: as a staff early on know that, hey, we do

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Speaker 1: have really good depth here. This roster has been transformed

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Speaker 1: and in a few weeks this is gonna this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough. Yeah, we felt really good about the

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Speaker 1: competition we created each level of the team and so

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Speaker 1: and in each one of the positions as well. So

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Speaker 1: we knew, you know, we we could feel it, we

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Speaker 1: could see it that, you know, the roster is getting better,

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Speaker 1: the tough and as the roster gets better, the decisions

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Speaker 1: and the cuts get harder. And this was you know,

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Speaker 1: by far, the toughest we've had since we've been here

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Speaker 1: in the twenty nineteen season, since the twenty nineteen season. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, kudos to our our player personnel department overall

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Speaker 1: for identifying the players um our coaches have given us

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Speaker 1: great profiles. We're all on the same page of what

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Speaker 1: they want in each position, and our coaches have done

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Speaker 1: a great job of developing the players and making them

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Speaker 1: candidates to have options after here. And you know, we,

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Speaker 1: like we've talked about, we had, you know, seven guys

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Speaker 1: past couple of weeks when we released and in addition

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Speaker 1: to Eddie Piniero signed with Carolina. So that's twelve guys

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Speaker 1: other teams, which is, you know, it's cool and it,

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Speaker 1: but it's tough for us at the same time because

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Speaker 1: developed him, but wish him the best. How many years

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League? Is this for you right now?

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Speaker 1: This is your twenty twentie season coming up? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: this is your twenty experience with this? Yeah? Yeah, Ever

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Speaker 1: having experience where you start training camp and you put

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Speaker 1: end of trainee camp twelve with those guys another town

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Speaker 1: you what was the conversation that had longest on. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with a couple of guys who actually made the

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Speaker 1: to you about Adams throughout camp? But also take me

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Speaker 1: back to why you signed him following the draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we're fortunate enough for him to slide through and

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Speaker 1: get him and recruit him to come here. And our

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Speaker 1: a great job of recruiting him after the draft. But

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Speaker 1: once once Tony got here, he you know, he he

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Speaker 1: And you know, both Tony Ow did and Marquand did

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Speaker 1: quickly making the transition from corner to safety. Here. So

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Speaker 1: plays with urgency, intensity, exactly the way we want him to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the safety position. Joe just talked about it. He thought

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Speaker 1: should be on a fifty three man roster somewhere. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about Bam Knight, a guy who went undrafted.

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Speaker 1: When you start making those calls because you guys were

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, hey, Bam, if it doesn't happen for

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Speaker 1: after the draft, we were really focused on on him

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Speaker 1: it came a you know, became a collaboration with all

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Speaker 1: What can you say about his return ability? Obviously can

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Speaker 1: But does that put a guy like that over the top. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did in terms of as a runner and receiver.

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Speaker 1: it really helps project him how he's gonna make our roster.

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Speaker 1: And then the kick return he had and against Philly

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Speaker 1: that regard. If not, he's probably a draft pick. And

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Speaker 1: he really he bought into the offseason training, his body

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Speaker 1: continued to grow. He's he's around two forty, if not

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Speaker 1: what Ron Middleton has done with him and the coaching

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Speaker 1: so listen, I would be as successful a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I'm on playing this for a long time. But that

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Speaker 1: sure he had a moment of you know, some adversity

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Speaker 1: like we all do, and he looked himself in the

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Speaker 1: can I change my path and change my future? Because

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Speaker 1: he bounces from our practice squad to a couple other

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Speaker 1: practice squads as a receiver, and you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: humbling experience when you get cut and then have to realize, man,

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Speaker 1: I've got to I got to find a different way.

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Speaker 1: So really proud of of Cage accepting that and then

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Speaker 1: you know, having the self awareness that I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do this. He's in a pretty cool room now.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think about the transformation that you

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Speaker 1: guys have done at tight end because Cajar joins a

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Speaker 1: group that includes obviously c J, Usama, Tyler Cochland. I

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Speaker 1: had one of the best camps out there bar none.

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Speaker 1: I think here this summer at one Jets Drive and

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Speaker 1: success Joe's had throughout his career um, but not only

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Speaker 1: as a starter, but seeing how he's developed this relationship

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Speaker 1: and connection with Zack and Mike White and Strev and

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Speaker 1: how strong of a bond that room has and how

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Speaker 1: they get along even though you know, Joe jokes that

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Speaker 1: he's he's the dad and catches the dad jokes of

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Speaker 1: the group being fourteen years or fifteen years older, whatever

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Speaker 1: the exact number is. But it's really comforting to know

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Speaker 1: that this guy has has seen pretty much every rush

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Speaker 1: that's been brought anywhere, every blitz or every coverage, and

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Speaker 1: he's got this just certain calmness and demeanor that hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be all right. Everything's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: And he can still throw the ball like he did

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Speaker 1: fifteen years ago or fourteen years ago when he came

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Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, I think FLA was gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to throw up when he's the guy you want

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Speaker 1: on your team. And then everybody we joke about it

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Speaker 1: looks like every ball that comes out of his hand

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Speaker 1: looks like a shot out of a jugs machine, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. Hey, listen, hopefully you get some rest

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Speaker 1: this week. It would be nice get back after enjoyed

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Speaker 1: it as always appreciated m