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Speaker 1: Welcome in to another episode of the Two Minute Drill Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm JJ Sankowitz, joined again by Colts dot Com writer

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Speaker 1: Amanda Foster, and we're taping this as the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four preseason comes to an end. The Colts roster is set,

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Speaker 1: we've got the practice squad set, and on Thursday, team

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Speaker 1: captains were announced. So on today's episode, we're gonna give

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Speaker 1: our final impressions of the Colts as we head into

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Speaker 1: the Labor Day weekend break and then starting next week,

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Speaker 1: the first game week of the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 1: The Two Minute Drill Podcast is presented by Nerd Wallet,

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Speaker 1: Play Smart Finance Smarter. Let's go all right, Amanda. We

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Speaker 1: broke down the Colts initial fifty three man roster on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's episode of the Official Colts Podcast, and as we're

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Speaker 1: taping this on Thursday, there's only been one change, a

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Speaker 1: swap of cornerback Samuel Womack. The third came in off

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Speaker 1: waivers from San Francisco. Darryl Baker Junior was waived. Amanda,

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Speaker 1: that we heard from Chris Ballard on Wednesday, a lot

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Speaker 1: of news he was worthy stuff coming out of Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard's media availability what did you say, just like about

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Speaker 1: the coming days and weeks of roster construction, Like, is

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Speaker 1: this fifty three that you can go to Colts dot

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Speaker 1: com and see right now? Is that what the fifty

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Speaker 1: three is going to be for the whole season?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question, and that I think is

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Speaker 2: something that everybody's wondering because Chris Ballard talked about he

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Speaker 2: had everybody named the first the three running backs in

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Speaker 2: the first game of the season last year, and then

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Speaker 2: kind of everybody they named the three and then he

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Speaker 2: let it sit and he was like, yeah, because they

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Speaker 2: weren't the three that they ended the season with. And

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Speaker 2: I thought that was one of the biggest points that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuck, was that it's very fluid in what

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Speaker 2: we're going to see this season.

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Speaker 1: This is good, by the way. If you're listening to

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Speaker 1: this and you're like, oh, what's the answer to that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: think about it for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, but I mean right like you knew.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I I was the guy from the back yelling.

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Speaker 2: Jake Funk, right, the only one.

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Speaker 1: I was the only one who yelled out Jake Funk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Jake Funk. Deon Jackson and Evan Hall last

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Speaker 1: year and then the Colts end of the season was

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss, Trace Sermon, Jonathan Taylor. So stuff changes, Rosters

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Speaker 1: are fluid in the NFL. You're always looking at the

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Speaker 1: margins trying to get better. You know, we'll see in

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Speaker 1: the coming days and weeks if there are any more

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Speaker 1: moves that are made. Sometimes. I mean last year, the Colts,

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Speaker 1: I don't think signed Trace Sermon until after Week one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just never know who might get hurt, what

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Speaker 2: Ballard was He made it also very clear that he's

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Speaker 2: very confident in the roster that they have now, and

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Speaker 2: he's confident in how he believes in the guys and

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Speaker 2: how they believe that they're going to play this season,

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Speaker 2: and was very very transparent about that. But he was

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Speaker 2: also he was upfront and said that you know, things

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Speaker 2: do change, and you can't you can't predict the future,

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Speaker 2: so you kind of have to be open to things

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Speaker 1: And I mean, this is what we're used to with

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Speaker 1: right where Tyler Goodson makes the fifty three, but Evan

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of different scenarios here that can

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Speaker 1: play out over the course of the season. One thing, though, Amanda,

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Speaker 1: at cornerback in safety. Yes, as has been the case

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Speaker 1: But this is nothing unexpected. If you've been paying attention

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Speaker 2: they're going to be able to continue growing into the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the growing part there, Amanda's the big point.

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard said you get better by playing right.

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Speaker 2: I have I wrote that down. He said they don't

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Speaker 2: become players without playing right. So like, you're right, you

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Speaker 1: And I've said this so much like Jalen Jones and

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Speaker 1: So like we should go sign someone or trade for someone,

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Speaker 1: but like, I don't, I don't know if anyone out

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Speaker 1: cutting off this path to development for Chriscott.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't develop people if you don't let

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Speaker 2: be two years down the line, right, And that's it's

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Speaker 2: a long term process. And I think that's where this

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Speaker 2: that Chris Ballard said about Nick Cross is that he

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Speaker 2: said it wasn't Nick's fault that we drafted him at

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Speaker 2: they talked about him and they built up all these expectations,

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Speaker 2: but then you've come to expect things from him, and

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Speaker 2: you forget that he was only twenty years old and

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Speaker 2: he's still very very young and does have a lot

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Speaker 2: And with that, there's still a reason that they're going

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Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, if you see this, if you're seeing

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Speaker 2: you see him in practice all the time, that's more

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's only so much that you can

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, like the Colts, you can't operate as

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Speaker 1: all that. Like I know people want the Colts to

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Speaker 1: do that, But for the long term sustainability of this franchise,

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Speaker 1: for the long term sustainability of what the Colts are building.

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Speaker 1: If they get to the end of this year and

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Speaker 1: Now he's gone. You go into twenty twenty five with

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Speaker 1: the same hole, exact roster exactly.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you have a couple of rookies, but they're still

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Speaker 2: unproven because their rookie. It's the same situation.

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Speaker 1: This way, you figure out if you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: might not. Yeah, and I think that's really important. Again,

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Speaker 1: Let's just get to the games.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm they haven't they haven't played yet, the season

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Speaker 2: that's not started.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm at this point now where like we've

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Speaker 1: talk about with these guys. Because training can't practices, joint practices,

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Speaker 1: preseason games. They're not always like great indicators. They're decent indicators,

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Speaker 1: how they can play, and then see how they grow

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Speaker 2: And then like you said, they're like we were saying,

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Speaker 1: There exactly, adjust from there. Speaking of Juju, Brent's Amanda,

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Speaker 1: like it was a total freak accident. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to either. It was like, sorry,

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Speaker 2: it's another thing where like I know, you know, Juju

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Speaker 1: This one wasn't a soft tissue thing. It's not his

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Speaker 1: He He was out there in a red non contact

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Speaker 1: his availability going forward. Josh Downs. Everything we've heard, Amanda

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Speaker 1: is that the Colts are hopeful they could get him

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Speaker 1: anything notable on the practice squad, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people were excited

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Speaker 2: that Jason Bean was back, myself included. Honestly, I thought

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Speaker 2: that's a I think another good sign. Evan holl back

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Speaker 1: To get him back.

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Speaker 1: There Sometimes there are storylines that you see in camp

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 1: I love this because Amanda, you weren't here last year.

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Speaker 1: This year that I think is really benefiting him. Look,

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Speaker 2: You listen to Chris Ballard and chansteik and and they

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Speaker 2: both say that he has had such a good training camp,

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Speaker 1: The one that I had Amanda was just layout two

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Speaker 1: LAT two is going to be really good. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: like yeah, it's not the hottest take here, but the

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Speaker 1: so Laatsuo started training camp no pads. He was looking

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Speaker 1: do with the pads. Get on the pads, get on.

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Speaker 1: He imediately makes an impact. Okay, you did it in

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Speaker 1: padded training camp practices, go do it in a game

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Speaker 1: and joint practice as well. He did it in a

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Speaker 1: game joint practices. Finish the preseason with a sack against Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: So now you gotta go do it in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: He has given us no reason to believe he is

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Speaker 1: And I'm always kind of on alert for like rookie dips,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Like during training camp where a

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And Latu Latu didn't fade at all

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Speaker 1: during training camp again, as evidenced by him finishing his

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Speaker 1: preseason with a sack against the Bengals. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: no no rookie wall in training camp, no no practice

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Speaker 1: where I came out of it being like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't write down ninety seven's number at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: every day I wrote down ninety seven, made a great

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Speaker 2: Well. And the thing is with the rookie dip and

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Speaker 2: everything that's normal, he's not normal.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point.

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Speaker 2: So that's not but you know, like that that sort

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Speaker 2: of thing, like you I can't expect him to be

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Speaker 2: like every other rookie because everything that we've seen and

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Speaker 1: He said, football taken away from him in a way

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Speaker 1: that no one else has. Like Zia Franklin had this

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Speaker 1: the thing that stands out to him. Ze said, it's

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Speaker 1: his hunger is gratitude. He's grateful to be here. You

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Speaker 1: don't get that a lot from a guy with his

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Speaker 1: accomplishments and his pedigree, and I just thought that was

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Speaker 1: so interesting of like, yeah, like he's super grateful, he's

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Speaker 1: super humble. He was the first defensive player drafted in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, but he doesn't let that affect how

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Speaker 1: he's going out there at all. Yeah, everything we've seen

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Speaker 1: is that he's gonna be in for a really good year.

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Speaker 1: Now what that looks like. If you're gonna sit here

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Speaker 1: and tell me he's gonna have ten sacks, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna be surprised. But I'm also not going to go

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Speaker 1: and say he's gonna be a rookie he gets double

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Speaker 1: digit sacks, I think affecting the pressure rate that the

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Speaker 1: Colts want to get up. That's where you want to

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Speaker 1: see Latu really have an impact. And everything we've seen

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Speaker 1: is that he can absolutely have an impact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh and Chris Ballard made a point that if

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Speaker 2: you watch him, he never takes his eyes off the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I love that one.

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Speaker 2: That and that's I remember I picked up on that

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Speaker 2: at least once or twice in training camp, in preseason,

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Speaker 2: in the games, whatever, And it's true, and it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's there's an intensity there that other people just aren't

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Speaker 1: And like it. And that's like, it's really hard to

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Speaker 1: have that, right, Like the instincts that he have, the

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Speaker 1: bend that he has, what could he say he moves

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Speaker 1: like water? Yeah, I mean like he's he's a remarkable player,

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Speaker 1: he's an even more remarkable person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think those two things together you just have

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Speaker 1: so much confidence going into the season.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to hear how the metaphors changed throughout

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Speaker 2: the season. Wait, because you have to get more and

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Speaker 2: more creative as things keep happening, right, Like if we

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Speaker 2: got if we got he moves like water in training camp,

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Speaker 2: that's a great point. What are we gonna get, like

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks in when he's doing even more

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Speaker 2: than he was doing in training camp.

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Speaker 1: Goblin, we're gonna call him macgoblin. Let's call him agoblin.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait, can't wait to call le a goblin here

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