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Speaker 1: to the Final Drive, presented by Mercury Insurance. At disappointing loss,

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Speaker 1: Chargers drop one to the Broncos twenty thirteen, Monday. After

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Speaker 1: the game, here with ESPN's Eric Williams, Chargers team reporter

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Speaker 1: Haleyo Wood and guys, I think point blank this was

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Speaker 1: over right from the start. Just the Broncos marched down

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Speaker 1: the field kind of set the tone. Yeah, they scored

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Speaker 1: on three of the first four possessions basically defensively, they

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Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how to stop them initially, although the

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Speaker 1: second half obviously was much better and they only gave

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Speaker 1: up three points and really allowed the Charges at least

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Speaker 1: to have an opportunity offensively to get back into it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think Denver's, you know, fifteen first

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Speaker 1: scripted plays, they really had an idea of how they

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Speaker 1: wanted to attack the Chargers defensively and we're very lethal

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Speaker 1: and how they did that, to me, it kind of

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Speaker 1: goes back to the fact of and we heard this

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Speaker 1: all week. The Bronchos were owing four. The Chargers had

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Speaker 1: been owned four before, and they knew what it was

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Speaker 1: like two years ago to go into MetLife Stadium owen

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Speaker 1: four with really nothing to lose and try to win.

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Speaker 1: And that to me was sort of indicative of just

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Speaker 1: what happened yesterday. You had the super hungry Broncos team

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Speaker 1: just backs against the Wall, a divisional opponent, and they

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Speaker 1: took care of business. First three plays for Denver went

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Speaker 1: for twenty six, twenty one and twelve yards. Seven play

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Speaker 1: drive seventy five yards touched down by Philip lindsay their

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Speaker 1: next possession, that's seventy yard or to Courtland Sutton. A

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Speaker 1: couple of misstackles there. You put yourself in a fourteen

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Speaker 1: nothing hole. And Haley, you and I talked about this

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Speaker 1: on Friday. Broncos had not forced a turnover all season long.

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Speaker 1: Three turnovers, one crucial one at the end of the

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Speaker 1: first half, one in the end zone by Philip. You

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Speaker 1: can't win games that way, no, And I really think

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Speaker 1: that's been the issue all year is their ability to

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Speaker 1: protect the football the Chargers from two yards and end.

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Speaker 1: Through five games, they've had four turnovers entering Sunday's contest.

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Speaker 1: I think the rest of the league has three turnovers

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Speaker 1: in those situations. So that's kind of indicative of where

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Speaker 1: they're at right now since Anthony Lynn's taken over. When

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Speaker 1: Philip doesn't turn it over, I believe they're They're fifteen

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Speaker 1: and two. When Philip has at least one turnover, they're

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Speaker 1: eight and twelve. So really it's about taking care of

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Speaker 1: the football, you know, as Pete Carroll likes to say,

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Speaker 1: it's all about the ball. The Charges right now I

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Speaker 1: think have eight turnovers through five games. They had nineteen

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Speaker 1: turnovers through the entire season one last year or so,

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Speaker 1: they were average, averaging just over a turnover a game

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Speaker 1: last year. Right now, they're averaging nearly two turnovers a game.

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Speaker 1: So if they start to value the football, I think

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Speaker 1: they'll start winning these close games and really start to

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Speaker 1: context into that Eckler fumble. I like the call first

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Speaker 1: the same result, right, So he was stretching to try

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a fumble, was a turnover. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, had he not gotten in, it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have mattered anyway. And he said that in the locker

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, you have to win now, starting

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh or against Pittsburgh. Against Pittsburgh, they're going to

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Speaker 1: be playing i'd likely their third team quarterback in that game,

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Speaker 1: nationally televised contest. You're right, there's there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, Kansas City lost didn't look like Kansa City

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Speaker 1: Indie found a blueprint. Yeah, perhaps, And so you're only

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Speaker 1: a lot of winnable games coming up. Obviously, Steelers at home,

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Speaker 1: get number twenty five back, he's the guy you're expecting

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Speaker 1: a couple of those catches came early. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what good defensive coordinators do, though, They take your

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Speaker 1: beat us with Keenan Allen and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: a joy to have Eric Williams. But it sounds so

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Speaker 1: the pod though, you know, am I over still? No?

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