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Speaker 1: Ron and I, and we're heading into fourth of July weekend.

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Speaker 1: Triple A expects if I read the report right over

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Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty thousand breakdowns because of the number

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Speaker 1: of people that are going to be out on the road.

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Speaker 1: The Car Doctor, I wondered if I had anything to

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Speaker 1: worry about with the hybrid battery. Toyota has such high

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world

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Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If

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Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the

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Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but

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Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five

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Speaker 1: and now he running to go. FU spacious guys, Amber

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Speaker 1: waves and grain fuck her from my majesty is fruity Glad.

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Speaker 1: But I wait a minute. I'm amnic sweet America. You

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Speaker 1: know God shed her race on the Happy Birthday, America.

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Speaker 1: And welcome to The Car Doctor's fourth of July radio show.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome Ron and Ainey in The Car Doctor here,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to remind everybody to take a

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Speaker 1: big bite out of the American lifestyle this weekend and

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Speaker 1: have yourselves a great time and remember that as tough

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Speaker 1: as things might be, we're still in the greatest place

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Speaker 1: on the planet, that being the good old us of

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Speaker 1: a happy Fourth of July, Happy Birthday America. I wanted

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Speaker 1: this episode of The Car Doctor a little bit about

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Speaker 1: batteries and battery technology, and it's being a case at

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Speaker 1: battery failures and we're seeing battery failures. I've been taking

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Speaker 1: failures on the variety of cars, the typical mix Toyota, Honda,

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Speaker 1: not going the five year, the six year mark, whatever

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Speaker 1: the length of time that battery is supposed to go.

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Speaker 1: And that's interesting to be aware of because I've also

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Speaker 1: made a casual observation for the last year and a half,

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Speaker 1: battery manufacturers are changing the way that they warrante batteries.

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Speaker 1: There's no more pro rating on batteries. You're typically going

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Speaker 1: to start to see if you haven't already. UH, for example,

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Speaker 1: will sell a top of the line platinum battery as

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Speaker 1: There's no more pro rating per month. After a year

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Speaker 1: manufacturing process. It's batteries are just evolving into something else

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Speaker 1: all over again, just like the automobile is, and it's

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Speaker 1: becoming that much more of a complicated item. But suffice

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Speaker 1: it to say that I marked the three weeks of

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Speaker 1: This isn't the first summer everen into this where heat

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Speaker 1: And I documented it over fourteen times. We're vehicles that

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Speaker 1: vehicles that approximately half of them had really dirty battery terminals.

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Speaker 1: I've got to think that that, along with the heat factor,

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Speaker 1: I don't care how busy the road is. Sometimes that's worse.

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Speaker 1: say that. But just as I approached them, there was

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Speaker 1: We were at the shop yesterday. It was um, you know, Friday,

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Speaker 1: if you're riding around on a battery that's three or

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Speaker 1: and Ady in the Car Doctor here at nine zero zero,

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Speaker 1: Here to talk to you about your car problem, whatever

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Speaker 1: some of the choices you make both in repair shop

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Speaker 1: Welcome aboard, sir, thanks for having me back. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know what a lifetime is, don't you. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: say with an automatic transmission. Okay, they say they've never

431
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: any change of food is a lifetime. Well, when that

432
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Speaker 1: transmission burns up, that's the life of that transmission, right,

433
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: it's time for and it's time for another one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So in this, in this in essence to this is

435
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Speaker 1: what this is what's taking places. Just little things like

436
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Speaker 1: like that. The coolins are under a lot of stress

437
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: because the vehicles, you know, the temperatures that they're that

438
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Speaker 1: they're running, in the environment that they're in, it's you know,

439
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: they're breaking down. They're breaking down a lot quicker than

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Speaker 1: what we would do, what you would normally expect. But

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Speaker 1: you got on the other hand, and you have a problem.

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Speaker 1: You've got two if everybody wanting to go to the

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Speaker 1: extended life and uh cool instant and that is you

444
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Speaker 1: have the e p A telling manufacturers, hey, we need

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Speaker 1: these cool ins and these fluids to go a lot

446
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Speaker 1: longer then than what they used to. Because you know,

447
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: there's a when you drain the cooling out of a

448
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: vehicle and it's shot, it's done, or oil or something

449
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: like that. You know there's there's a certain amount of

450
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Speaker 1: waste and where is it and where's it going to go?

451
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Speaker 1: And then what are we going to do with it?

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Speaker 1: Right and to that, and I heard recently that the

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Speaker 1: e p A is looking into trying to get car manufacturers,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know the whole deal on. This is

455
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Speaker 1: just something that i've heard, but they're trying to get

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Speaker 1: car manufacturers to recommend fifteen thousand oil interchange intervals. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: that'll go over real. Well. Well, here's the thing I can.

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Speaker 1: I can take a synthetic oil, put a good filter

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Speaker 1: on it, and I can run fifteen thousand miles when

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Speaker 1: the cars new. I can do that. But eventually it's

461
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: going to catch up with it and you're gonna have

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00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: engine problems, you know. So have you seen the new

463
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Speaker 1: Consumer Reports article, Steve. Have you had a chance to

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Speaker 1: read it about the consumption issues and how they But

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Speaker 1: I know, but I am aware of it. In fact,

466
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Speaker 1: I've done some research on I was listening to the

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Speaker 1: guy that you were hit on there about the Honda

468
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Speaker 1: before you guys were talking about that and one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I read an article and I think

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Speaker 1: it was a motor age I can't remember where it was,

471
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: but they said one of the things that they believe

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00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: is causing some of the problems is because of the

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Speaker 1: the the the synthetic oils that are they're using in

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00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: the engines and things of that nature. If they don't

475
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: cross hatch. Those cylinders just perfect. The rings never set in,

476
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: and that's where they're they think they're getting similar oil consumption.

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00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Hey, Steve, I'm gonna pull over and take

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Speaker 1: a pause. Let me hold you another segment, A couple

479
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: of more things I want to go over with before

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Speaker 1: I let you go. I'm running any in the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We are back right after this. She's will find my

482
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Speaker 1: four nights, she's will find my phone, my full Welcome back,

483
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Ronini and the car Doctor. We're here with our friend instructor, Steve, Cincinnati, Ohio.

484
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: And um, we choose to identify them that way for

485
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Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. We're trying to maintain some and

486
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: and and an anonymity here. Correct, Steve correct? Yeah, UM,

487
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: so we'll leave it like that. I'm looking at this

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Speaker 1: article from Consumer Reports. I want to get your reaction

489
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: to this. The magazine focused on survey data from four

490
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: undred and nine eight thousand owners of model vehicles, and

491
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: of them said they did not have to add oil

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Speaker 1: between changes. But even if the problem happens to only

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Speaker 1: two percent of owners, that equals one point five million

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Speaker 1: cars from the five model years. Several engines from three

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Speaker 1: manufacturers were the main offenders, according to the magazine. They

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Speaker 1: include out these two Leader turbo charged four cylinder and

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Speaker 1: three Leader V six, BMW's four point eight Leader V

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Speaker 1: eight and four point four Leader twin turbo and Subarus

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Speaker 1: three point six Leader six cylinder and two oh and

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00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: two point five Leader four cylinder engines. The Subarus burned

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00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: less oil than the others. Standards for certain engines and

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, uh, certain engines and manufacturers say that it's

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Speaker 1: reasonable to burn a quart of oil every six to

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Speaker 1: seven hundred miles. What do you think about that, Steve?

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Speaker 1: I think it's inexcusable for any engine in a new

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Speaker 1: car today to burn that kind of oil. It's just

507
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: just no way. That's a lot of oil getting passed

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00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: those rings. And you know that organs passed the rings,

509
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: the engines burning and stuff, and guess what that stuff

510
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: hads break down to the catalytic converter. And yeah, it

511
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: could be expensive to because you get down that cataltic

512
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Speaker 1: converter and it ruins that converter. You know, chances are

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00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: that converter is gonna live long enough that it's gonna

514
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Speaker 1: be out of warranty out of its admissions warranty, and

515
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: then it's gonna die. So I mean to me, if

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Speaker 1: someone sits there, I'm gonna tell me that it's normal

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Speaker 1: two use a court of oil every six seven eight

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Speaker 1: hundred miles. I would have nothing to do with that

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00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: car whatsoever or that car manufacturer, because that's insane. Well,

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00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: and then and then what do you do with Okay,

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00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: let's play it out. So four years from now, when

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Speaker 1: that car has eighty thousand miles on it and it's

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Speaker 1: been going through a quart of oil every seven eight

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Speaker 1: hundred miles or six seven hundred miles at the manufacturer

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00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: considers acceptable. And now you come along and buy this

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Speaker 1: four or five year old used car with eighty two

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it. Now in ten thousand miles

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00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: or less, it needs a catalytic converter, and you've got

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Speaker 1: to go through a listen, a real catalytic converter on

530
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: some of these cars. Oh, I don't know where do

531
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: you think they start twelve fifty hundred dollars and then

532
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: go up from there? Yeah, you have to go up

533
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: and go from there. I've seen as high as right,

534
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: So you know, all of a sudden, this oil consumption

535
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: issue becomes a real problem. Hey Steve, before I let

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Speaker 1: you go, I want to call it a little bit

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Speaker 1: real quick. Um, what can you share with us? You're

538
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: writing a book about O B D two diagnostics made Simple.

539
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: My spies tell me yeah. Um, what it's about, basically

540
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: is it's how to make the diagnostic process simple as

541
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: simple as you can make it. Um, someone like such

542
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: as yourself probably wouldn't benefit from because you you know

543
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: how to diagnose these systems pretty well. Was designed more

544
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: for the do it yourself or the guy is just

545
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: getting started. And I cover a lot of different things

546
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: in there, for example, tools, what kind of tools and

547
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: equipment should you have? You know, how far can it

548
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: do it yourself or go? And when should you punt

549
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: and find a professional to come in? You know, things

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00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: that that make sure, uh, just the whole idea of

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00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: diagnosing something and not just throwing parts at it, because

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00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: what I don't I'm sure you've seen it to Someone

553
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: will bring a car to your shop and they've done

554
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: thrown you know, three four or five with the parts

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00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: of a car trying to fix it instead of spending

556
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: the hundred hundred and fifty dollars to get it diagnosed correctly,

557
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: you know. So. And it's just other things that little

558
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 1: tid bits and information to go along with diagnosing cars

559
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. And one of the things

560
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned the beginning of the book is that I'm

561
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: writing is this is that if you don't have an

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00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: electrical background, you don't know about automotive, electrical and electronics,

563
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be touching that car because you're gonna do

564
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: more harm than you're gonna do good. You know, it's

565
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: a real problem. Well, i'll give you a quick example. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I've seen this a lot. It's probably about three or

567
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: four weeks ago I heard about this. This guy decided

568
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: that he could diagnose his own car, and he took

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Speaker 1: it home from one of the shops here in town.

570
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: And that because he didn't want to pay the kind

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00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: of money they wanted to diagnose his card. You know,

572
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: he he was an engineer. He knew what he was doing, right,

573
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: So he gets home in some way, shape or form

574
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: he takes and he runs twelve bolts to a sensor ground.

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00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't like the way this is gone. Yeah, Well,

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00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: you know what happens when you let the smoke out

577
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: of the magic box, right, you can't put it back in,

578
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: And that's what he did. He burned that thing up.

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00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: So you know, he's saving himself money. Oh, he said,

580
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot of money doing that, because now it

581
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: got towed back to the place where where he had

582
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: it originally at to begin with. Okay, so they had

583
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: to go ahead and put a PCM in a program

584
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: and everything. Then they had to go back and diagnose

585
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: the original problem. So and sometimes people think they're saving

586
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: themselves money when the reality of it is is that

587
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: they're not. You know what's really funny is you have

588
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: a refrigerator. Refrigerator breaks down, or your dishworse or something

589
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: like that. Most people will call out a service technician.

590
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: But when a car breaks down and rule up this season,

591
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: think I can fix this, And you know, I don't

592
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: know where that's going to come to an end, but

593
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen real soon. I was at a Toyota

594
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: dealer the other day and they're telling me the story

595
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: about how their texts are now going to be required

596
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: to start looking up their own parts. As Toyota, it

597
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: seems as starting to or trying to phase out the

598
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: people behind the parts counter at some level, and it's

599
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be interesting, Steve. The clock is

600
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: gonna take us, and um, I've got to go. But

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Speaker 1: as always, sir, a great pleasure talking to you. If

602
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: you care too. When you finish your book, we'd love

603
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: to get you back and talk about that a little

604
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: bit and help you promote it because it sounds like

605
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be a good one. Let me just

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00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: take a quick two seconds and wish you were very

607
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: happy fourth of July to you and yours. All right,

608
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: thank you, You do the same, and everybody out there

609
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: be safe, all right, Yeah, absolutely, Steve. We appreciate your time. Yea.

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Speaker 1: I am ronning INNI in the car, doctor, and I

611
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: want to thank you for joining me this hour, and

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00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: I want to let you know we're gonna close that

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Speaker 1: with a little bit of salute to the good old USA.

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00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: A happy birthday, America. See you. If tomorrow things were gone,

615
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: work for all my life and I had to start again,

616
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: just my children again, my wife, Thank my lucky stars

617
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: to be living here any day, because the fags just

618
00:35:51,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: stands for freedom and they can't take that away. And

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Speaker 1: I'm about to be an American. Where at the scandal

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00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: and free get the men who died who gave that

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Speaker 1: right to me, and I lovely stand it's to you,

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00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: and defend her still today because there ain't no doubt

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Speaker 1: I love this land. God bless the