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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the Fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran,

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Speaker 2: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic christ

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Speaker 2: is King.

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Speaker 3: President Donald Trump is making a new threat against Canada,

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Speaker 3: taking aim at a new border crossing, The Gordie Howbridge,

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Speaker 3: will connect Windsor, Ontario and Detroit, and it's set to

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Speaker 3: open this year, but Trump is threatening to block it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to the latest effort to find that Nancy Guthrie,

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Speaker 4: her family is now issuing a you plead for her

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Speaker 4: safe return, saying that they are in the hour of desperation.

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Speaker 4: It has been ten days since the mother of Today's

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Speaker 4: Show co host, Savannah Guthrie, vanished from her home near Tucson, Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Investigators say that Savannah herself is now appealing to the

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Speaker 4: public for help, as the FBI confirms there are still

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Speaker 4: no suspects and no new messages from Nancy's apparent of doctors.

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Speaker 5: This morning, a new document coming to light claims in

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Speaker 5: the mid two thousands, President Trump called police about Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 5: Among the three million Epstein files released by the Department

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Speaker 5: of Justice last month is a four page FBI report

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Speaker 5: on an interview the bureau conducted in twenty nineteen with

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Speaker 5: the man believed to be former Palm Beach Police chief

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Speaker 5: Michael Ryder. Writer and his detectives began investigating Epstein for

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Speaker 5: human trafficking in two thousand and four. According to the document,

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Speaker 5: Trump called Writer around that time and said, thank goodness,

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Speaker 5: you're stopping him. Everyone has known he's been doing this.

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Speaker 5: Writer also says Trump said he threw Epstein out of

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Speaker 5: his club, and he was around Epstein once when teenagers

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Speaker 5: The former police chief says Trump told him to focus

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Speaker 5: on Epstein's associate, Gallaine Maxwell, saying she is evil.

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Speaker 6: Did I newly released videos showing Jeffrey Epstein's only convicted

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Speaker 6: co conspirator, Glenn Maxwell, appearing before lawmakers from a Texas prison,

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Speaker 6: refusing to answer questions unless President Trump grants her clemency.

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Speaker 7: First, I'm the and then Wright.

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Speaker 6: To silence her lawyer, stating she is prepared to speak

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Speaker 6: fully and honestly. I granted clemency by President Trump, adding

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Speaker 6: both President Trump and President Clinton are innocent of any wrongdoing.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily. We're here down live West Palm Beach. Got

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Speaker 1: some business to take care of later this evening over

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Speaker 1: at a certain winter White House, and let you guys,

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Speaker 1: let you guys figure that out later for yourself. Today

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Speaker 1: is February tent twenty twenty six, Anno Dominie. Well, folks,

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Speaker 1: the numbers keep coming in, the ratings keep coming in,

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Speaker 1: and the sources keep coming in. The NFL is furious

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Speaker 1: and terrified over what we were able to accomplish together

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Speaker 1: by reaching out to Middle America, by reaching out to

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Speaker 1: normal America and putting on a show with the type

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Speaker 1: type of artists that they want to hear, and a

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Speaker 1: that told them that they were something wrong with them

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Speaker 7: No, just a celebration of patriotism, faith, family, and freedom.

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Speaker 7: That's what we promised. And guess what, that's what we delivered.

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Speaker 7: Number one US live stream.

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Speaker 1: Of all time, forty to fifty million people who watched

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Speaker 1: all in and we're starting to hear and I want

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Speaker 7: People tune that show out.

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Speaker 1: That when that turned on, a whole lot of people

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Speaker 7: So we'll just see, We'll just see.

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Speaker 1: But what can I say, folks, what can I say?

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Speaker 1: It was all thanks to God. I'm humbled by God's

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Speaker 7: It's God's will.

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Speaker 1: G ad majoram Day glorium, there for the greater glory

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Speaker 7: The FBI has released shocking.

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Speaker 1: Footage and we're going to be talking about this later

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Speaker 1: as what appears to be an abductor who is arriving

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Speaker 1: at Nancy Guthrie's home Tucson, Arizona and the outskirts of Tucson, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and this horrific footage. It's some of the most shocking

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Speaker 1: Out of a nightmare, out of an absolute nightmare. And

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Speaker 1: you see the equipment there. You see the very amateurish,

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Speaker 1: And the question I have is how long was this

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Speaker 1: information known? And why was this not put out day one?

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Speaker 1: for or to have some understanding of it. This thing stinks,

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Speaker 1: It stinks to high heaven, and we're going to dig

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Speaker 7: So I want to talk about another story that's going

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Speaker 7: on right now.

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Speaker 1: Piracy on the high seas and interdiction on the high seas,

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Speaker 1: which brings us back to our good friend Kingsley Wilson

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great, Thanks for having me Jack.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've yet again, we've got you on and we

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Speaker 1: have seen another naval operation take place, a maritime interdiction

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Speaker 7: Walk us through. So what happened? There's a tanker.

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Speaker 1: Now, we of course haven't seen as many of these

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, so, this vessel was targeted because it was acting

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Speaker 9: making sure that individuals and groups who may be carrying

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Speaker 9: They are absolutely treating it differently, and that's because President

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Speaker 1: That any nation would do when they find someone who's

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Speaker 9: It's incredible. And just last night we had another boat

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Speaker 9: Thanks Jack.

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Speaker 10: Talk about influences, These are influences.

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Speaker 8: And they're friends of mine, Jack, So he's got a

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Speaker 11: Hi there, everybody, I wanted to come on and just

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Speaker 1: Deak Celvick, we'rebec We're live here, human events daily and

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Speaker 7: This is not Yes, we got to dig into it.

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Speaker 1: identify them if I, if this were someone and I knew,

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Speaker 1: I'd easily be able to identify them from this footage.

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Speaker 1: And as as horrific as this is, I still can't

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Speaker 1: get away from the fact of asking, why wasn't.

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Speaker 7: This footage out earlier?

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Speaker 1: This should be the very first thing that you do,

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Speaker 1: the very first thing that you start digging on. If

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Speaker 1: you say, hey, there was a ring camera, next camera,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, get the footage, Get the camera footage.

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Speaker 1: Don't be you know, don't wait for Oh, we're going

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Speaker 1: to be digging around in manholes and septic tanks and

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it, and put going up there

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Speaker 1: and breaking the timeline and can't even get right whether

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Speaker 1: she's going to church or she's going to a prayer

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Speaker 1: service at her friend's house. I mean, the amount of

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Speaker 1: mistakes that we've seen from this Sheriff's department, it's actually staggering.

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Speaker 1: And I just feel for the people that live in

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Speaker 1: this county that have to have such an incompetent individual

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Speaker 1: being the one who's supposed to be keeping them and

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Speaker 1: their loved ones safe.

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Speaker 12: I mean, one hundred percent, like these cases, if you

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Speaker 12: can't tell the public what to look for at all,

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Speaker 12: no vehicle, no footage, no, I mean truly, this is

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Speaker 12: the first thing in this entire case we've been given, period,

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Speaker 12: and that's incredible.

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Speaker 10: On day ten to have that, it really.

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Speaker 12: Is mind blowing. And it goes back to I just

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Speaker 12: saw moments for I hopped on here that you know,

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Speaker 12: there's tons of media outside Nancy Guthrie's house, but a

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Speaker 12: pizza delivery guy was just able to walk up and

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Speaker 12: attempted to deliver a pizza. I mean, obviously it was

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Speaker 12: probably meant for a media member, but they were still

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Speaker 12: to go up to the blood dripped steps and deliver

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Speaker 12: a pizza to Nancy Guthrie's home, just like on Monday,

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Speaker 12: that Amazon.

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Speaker 10: Driver was able to go walk right up to the

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Speaker 10: door and drop a pack.

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Speaker 1: Because they didn't secure because they didn't secure the scene,

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Human Events Daily check for Slovic

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Speaker 12: Where is he?

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Speaker 4: I want to see you.

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Speaker 5: Great job, Jack, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You know this, this of course breaks just as we

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Speaker 1: go to air here walk us through these stunning new developments.

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Speaker 7: How did this all come out?

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Speaker 1: And again, you know what are they saying about the

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Speaker 1: reason for the delay in this shocking evidence?

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Speaker 10: All right?

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Speaker 12: So yeah, before these images came out, we were told

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Speaker 12: that they should come out this afternoon. They came out

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Speaker 12: a little bit earlier, and I wanted just to get

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Speaker 12: people up this speed. Before these images came out, the

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Speaker 12: big thing was the ransom note. Second deadline had passed,

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Speaker 12: and the timeframe that was laid out in the deadline

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Speaker 12: it also passed as of this morning, giving even more

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Speaker 12: I think non credibility to those ransom notes. And so

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Speaker 12: then we get these and what you're looking at right

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Speaker 12: now is the person that cash Rettel said was armed

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Speaker 12: and was tampering with the cameras and ski mask on

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Speaker 12: backpack there gloves, he's trying to cover it up, looking

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Speaker 12: directly in the camera though, so you get very clear

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Speaker 12: shots of his eyes and in the video it looks

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Speaker 12: like he was trying to first cover up the camera

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Speaker 12: with some leaves, and there's actually from the video that

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Speaker 12: we've seen.

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Speaker 10: Of the blood on the front porch. Those are that's

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Speaker 10: the leaves right there the vegetation. You see some.

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Speaker 12: Blood drops on top of that after you know, daylight

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Speaker 12: came up the next day. So these images are huge

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Speaker 12: because this entire time and again we haven't heard from

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Speaker 12: Pema County Sheriff and an official media briefing since Thursday.

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Speaker 10: You're saying, how can the public be of help?

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Speaker 12: They just kept saying anything suspicious, anything suspicious. This is

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Speaker 12: so huge because Jack, you know how a lot of

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Speaker 12: these cases are sold. You get this like gut feeling

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Speaker 12: like oh I may have known someone like that wouldn't

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Speaker 12: shock me if this person was involved. Well then you

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Speaker 12: get clear day video and images and you're like, oh

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Speaker 12: my goodness, that looks just like so and so so again,

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Speaker 12: like you mentioned, these videos images would have been very

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Speaker 12: helpful on day two of the investigation, but we got

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Speaker 12: them on day ten and right now everyone is being

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Speaker 12: asked to study these videos and images, study the way

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Speaker 12: the person. Again, very distinct features in this video, The

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Speaker 12: eyes are very distinct. When you get the upclose shot,

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Speaker 12: it appears there's some type of facial hair mustache looking

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Speaker 12: thing that you see in that photo. So study these

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Speaker 12: in that tip line wide open. Still fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 12: reward one eight hundred call FBI. But I mean, this

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Speaker 12: is the biggest break understatement that we've had in the case.

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Speaker 10: And now people can actually start being on the lookout

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Speaker 10: out and draw connections to if they recognize this person,

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Speaker 10: and then authorities can now continue to just track what

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Speaker 10: they have.

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Speaker 12: And I'm curious now because you know, on Friday, the

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Speaker 12: FBI recovered that video from.

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Speaker 10: Or the camera.

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Speaker 7: The multiple camera else come from.

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Speaker 10: The same camera their front doorbell camera.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, there's a back when so we're out there. I

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Speaker 12: hope we get to see that too. And to your

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Speaker 12: point about the incompetency of this, we're still told no

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Speaker 12: scheduled media briefings even after all this information came out.

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Speaker 12: That is shocking to me because the media, the public,

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Speaker 12: they should be able to ask about these new developments.

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Speaker 12: That's why you have press briefings. But right now, crickets.

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Speaker 1: Well, and of course we also have to understand, you know,

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Speaker 1: the question is is is also what else was on

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Speaker 1: this camera?

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Speaker 7: Because if this was the camera.

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Speaker 1: That that was active and they are able to recover

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Speaker 1: this footage, I want to know. I want to know

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Speaker 1: what happened an hour before. I want to know what

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Speaker 1: happened a minute before. I want to know ten minutes before,

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Speaker 1: ten minutes after this. Do you see a car driving up?

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Speaker 1: Can you tell if it's a you know, just if

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Speaker 1: you only hear audio, can you hear the size of

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Speaker 1: the car?

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Speaker 7: Is it? You know?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a motorcycles, it sounds like a jee

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Speaker 1: does it sound like an suv?

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Speaker 7: Whatever? You know? What else?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 7: Other?

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Speaker 1: So, if this system has footage, it's clearly going to

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Speaker 1: have more than just this, and hopefully and presumably the

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Speaker 1: FBI will have more clues that they're going to be

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Speaker 1: able to pull off of this other than.

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Speaker 7: Just the footage of this guy.

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Speaker 1: By the way, and then of course we also have

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Speaker 1: to ask the question of was their footage of her

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Speaker 1: returning home and when she returned?

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Speaker 7: So walk us through that again.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when she returned home, we were told

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Speaker 1: there was a family member who brought her home from

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Speaker 1: a family dinner.

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Speaker 7: Who was that family member around? What time was that?

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Speaker 7: And do we know which If this was the door

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Speaker 7: that they use.

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Speaker 12: So, yeah, this starts the walk back circle, which is

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Speaker 12: in the story of this case. Say something up front,

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Speaker 12: take it back a couple of days later. This was

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Speaker 12: no different than who dropped her off. Their original reports

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Speaker 12: that it was Annie Guthrie. Then the more confirmed report

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Speaker 12: from sheriff Chris Nanos he told I do believe it

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Speaker 12: was the New York Times that it was Toama Socioni,

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Speaker 12: the son in law that dropped her off, made sure

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Speaker 12: she got in the home safely. And then that was

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Speaker 12: at nine forty eight. Garage door closed at nine point fifty,

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Speaker 12: So that was what we were told. But then it

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Speaker 12: was walked back on Thursday, and they're saying it was

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Speaker 12: just a family member. It was just a family member.

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Speaker 12: But to your point, yeah, you should be able to

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Speaker 12: see now who that was if they can dig back

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Speaker 12: into server and said, you know, over the last eight

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Speaker 12: days they've been doing some digging. There has to be

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Speaker 12: more they're looking at in that regard of what did

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Speaker 12: it look like when she got home a lot of

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Speaker 12: people think that she went to the garage because the

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Speaker 12: garage door closed, but it begs the question. There were

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Speaker 12: multiple cameras being found now so what we see images

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Speaker 12: from those other cameras another thing, And you look at

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Speaker 12: the timeline. Now we know this is the person that

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Speaker 12: set off at least one of the cameras at one forty.

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Speaker 10: Seven seven.

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Speaker 12: Forty minutes went by before the two to twenty eight

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Speaker 12: pacemaker disconnected from the cell phone. That is a long

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Speaker 12: time for this person. If this is the you know, again,

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Speaker 12: it's not being called a suspect. This is just it's

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Speaker 12: the person that was tampering with the camera. Potential suspect

663
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Speaker 12: is what the verbiage law enforcement is using. But that

664
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Speaker 12: is such a long time to be hanging out in

665
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 12: this home, to be doing things in this home. And

666
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 12: he seems very calm there, just casually walking back after

667
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 12: he knows the camera is on, walking back to the vegetation,

668
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 12: picking some up. Well, let me go back up to it,

669
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 12: try to cover it up again. I mean, it's just weird.

670
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Speaker 10: Call it what it is. It's weird.

671
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Speaker 12: The timeline was weird, the amount of time it was there.

672
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Speaker 12: It just gives off whoever this is, they were familiar.

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Speaker 7: So so.

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Speaker 1: It does seem like someone who has a familiarity, someone

675
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: who is clearly not ever done this sort of thing before.

676
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: You also see that there's only one individual apparently in

677
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: this video. It does not seem like a group of

678
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: people a ring if you will, where in you know,

679
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: in an in professional or abductions or people who do

680
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: this cartel or others, they never just send one person.

681
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: It's it's it's always multiples. There's always a team, you know,

682
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: because there's always issues. You have to carry someone, if

683
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: you've if you've knocked them out, you have to be

684
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Speaker 1: able to secure them, et cetera. It's extremely rare that

685
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: you would only see one person in an abduction.

686
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: There's no question about that.

687
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: And and again, you know, it gets into questions about

688
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: this ransom, what really went on?

689
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 7: What was the plan?

690
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: Was this perhaps a ransom that went went bad, a ransom,

691
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, attempt that went wrong by someone who wasn't

692
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: an amateur.

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 7: You know, we we still don't know that one.

694
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: The And by the way, and I'm just going to

695
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: say it that there's a real question. Now, if you've

696
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: got a ring camera, you got next camera whatever it is,

697
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: and you don't have a subscription, does that mean they're

698
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: not storing the data, because it, sir, seems like they're

699
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: storing that on their servers, which is you know, obviously

700
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: raises quite a few questions there as well for folks

701
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: that if they want to get it, they certainly can

702
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: and they certainly are able to come it up on

703
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: a break. But I just have to say this, this sheriff,

704
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: that sheriff has got to go. I'm sorry that sheriff

705
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: has absolutely got to go down there, County. You guys

706
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: can do way better than this sheriff, Chris Nanos. He

707
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: has lost all credibility. He needs to step down. He

708
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: needs to step down and let.

709
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Speaker 7: Someone who's actually competent.

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00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: At law enforcement do the job. Right back here Human

711
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: Events Daily.

712
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Speaker 8: Jack is a great guy. He's written at fantastic look

713
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 8: and everybody's talking about it, go get it. And he's

714
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 8: been my friend right from the beginning of this whole

715
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 8: uful event, and.

716
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Speaker 1: We're going to turn her around and make our gutty

717
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: way to get him payment. Jack Pasovic, We're back live

718
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: here Human Events Daily. So we got all this new

719
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: reporting regarding the Nancy Guthrie case. I'm just going to

720
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: pull some stuff up that NBC of course is breaking

721
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot of this and it's it's certainly existential for them.

722
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: Because they're dealing with a case that involves one of

723
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: their biggest stars, which is certainly driving a lot of

724
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: the interest in this as well as the now we

725
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: can see this incredibly amateurish individual on camera. We know

726
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: that FBI Director Cash Pttel has visited the Tucson command

727
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: center in the Guthree case on Monday, recording to NBC News,

728
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: he was brought to Arizona on pre planned travel, but

729
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: spend some time with investigators. We saw that information regarding

730
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: the pizza delivery driver the Guthrie family, it's being reported,

731
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: does not recognize the individual scene breaking the mother's doorball camera,

732
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: and this is, of course, is why the FBI has

733
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Speaker 1: made it public.

734
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Speaker 7: So they're saying they're not sure who it was.

735
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Speaker 1: We're seeing that the It has previously been revealed that

736
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Speaker 1: the doorball camera is disconnected at one forty seven am

737
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: February first, and that home surveillance software detected movement at

738
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Speaker 1: two twelve am, but there is no video of that

739
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: detected movement, so it's unclear whether it was a person, animal,

740
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: or what else. The White House itself has shared out

741
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: this information. Now Cash Ptell has shared it from his account.

742
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: There is in a reward that the FBI is offering

743
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: up to fifty thousand dollars for anyone was information on

744
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: being able to identify that leads to the identification of

745
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: this suspect of this individual. And again, just one of

746
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: the most horrific things that I've seen. But look, and

747
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: I want to bring Linden Blake back in here, but

748
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: you know, from my Just My Curse review, I've only

749
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, seen this just as we were going live

750
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: to air here. This does not seem to me like

751
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: someone who is a professional. This does not seem to

752
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: me like someone who's ever done this type of thing before.

753
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: And it seems to me like this is someone who's

754
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, watched too many movies, watched too much Breaking Bad,

755
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: and thought, hey, maybe I can do that to get

756
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: some some money. Maybe, you know, obviously look for someone

757
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: who's got financial issues as a way to you know,

758
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: as a as a motive or a driver here. So

759
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: that's that's just kind of a cursor review. But again,

760
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: the lack of any type of backup whatsoever really stands

761
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: out to me. Linden, your thoughts, Yeah, going.

762
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 12: Back to amateur Hour, I think that's what a lot

763
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 12: of law enforcement are going to say about the as well,

764
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 12: because you know, this guy girl couldn't quickly figure out

765
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 12: how to get a camera off amount and make it

766
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 12: stop working. It fails right there as you can see,

767
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 12: and he turns around. I don't know what the thought

768
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 12: process behind. Let me get some leaves from a bush

769
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 12: and try to cover it.

770
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 7: Up like he doesn't seem to.

771
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Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to be any planning whatsoever on how

772
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Speaker 1: to disable the camera before his arrival at all, which.

773
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Speaker 12: Goes back to like in more sophisticated operations, I mean,

774
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 12: you are you were walking up with authority, boom boom boom,

775
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 12: like you're done, you punch it, you do something to

776
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 12: quickly do it, and this I.

777
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Mean or perhaps I don't know where a hat to

778
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: block your eyes from or you know, put it on.

779
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, basically some really.

780
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Basic you know things that that that professional c I

781
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: don't mean to laugh because it's not laughing matter, but

782
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: I mean.

783
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 7: It's it's just such. I mean, he's he's.

784
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: Grabbing some plants that are nearby and then trying to

785
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: cover it up like he like like like he hadn't

786
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: even it hadn't even occurred to him that the camera

787
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: might even be there, Like, what do.

788
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 12: You think the leaves are just gonna stick? It makes

789
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 12: no sense. And again it's just amateur hour turning around.

790
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 12: Like just the fumble here is incredible, but also good

791
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 12: for law enforcement because you have thirty seconds to video

792
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 12: this guy given or girl given every single ankle possibly

793
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 12: that you could give.

794
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna come out, I'm going to

795
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: come down. I think it's a guy. I think that

796
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: looks like a guy to me. It doesn't a girl

797
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: to me at all. Just and you mentioned the face,

798
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: when you see the facial hair, when you see the movements,

799
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: when you see the uh, just just the size in general,

800
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: it seemed like a guy to me.

801
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 7: You know, that'd be my first look.

802
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: And also just understanding the profile of people who commit

803
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: these kind of crimes, it would be extremely rare to

804
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: see that be a female. Also, we haven't we haven't

805
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: talked about this, but it does appear to.

806
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Speaker 7: Be and I'm seeing some some people are commenting.

807
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: That there appears to be a firearm, either you know,

808
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: in a waist holster or maybe in a pocket. Are

809
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: you able to have you have you dug into that

810
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: at all?

811
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Speaker 12: Well, we knew we know that the person was armed

812
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 12: because Cash Bottel said, this armed person went up to

813
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 12: the camera. We'll call it the guy like you said,

814
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 12: I think it's a guy too. The armed man walks up,

815
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 12: so we know that there was something and I think

816
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 12: that there the gun's not like holstered properly. But you

817
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 12: can see on his left side right there. Can you

818
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 12: make out like is he trying to like hold the

819
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 12: gun there like in the waistband or something.

820
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 10: I mean, that's where.

821
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 12: I'm looking when I when I'm looking for the gun

822
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 12: is over there in like the left hand area, trying.

823
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 10: To conceal it or something on that end.

824
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: But exactly behind him, it almost looks like you're seeing

825
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: some kind of you know, some headlight. To me, it

826
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: looks like a reflection and some headlights and and a

827
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: wheelbase that are being reflected in the back. Again, I'm

828
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: just going through this as we're as we're live. I

829
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: haven't looked at any of this reacting. But again, there's

830
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: so many clues here. It's just over and over the boots.

831
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: By the way, there are the boots. That's the type

832
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: of boots you're looking for. So from the boots you

833
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: can get the impressions of the feet. From the impressions

834
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: of the feet, you can you can in generally say hey,

835
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: we're looking for someone who's around this size this you

836
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: can get his height obviously off of this by judging

837
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: his height based on the uh, you know, the when

838
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: he walks through the awning. Again, you looking for someone

839
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: who's around this height, around this type of has this

840
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: type of gait, has these type of.

841
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 7: Boots, has this type of firearm.

842
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: If you can tell which firearm it is, it looks

843
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: like a handgun, I would say, obviously, just given where

844
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: it's you know, given where it's at, you know, maybe

845
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: a glock or something like that, or a sig you know,

846
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: common you know, common handgun taurus.

847
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, if it depends on how.

848
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 12: She is, If he's got a tourists, you can easily

849
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 12: measure the art and then when he's standing right there

850
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 12: and get a height.

851
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 10: Just like that.

852
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly the same way they do when you know,

853
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: when you're when you're at one one of those convenience

854
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: to or a gas station and they have that height

855
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: chart that's right on the doorway.

856
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 7: That's why it's there.

857
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Boys and girls because if you want to give a

858
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: quick description, it's a really fast way to be able

859
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: to do that. And so this footage absolutely gives you

860
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: the ability to give you the height from the foot impressions.

861
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: You might even be able to get the weight even

862
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: the sense. You know, you've got to obviously someone who's

863
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say obese, but overweight. You know

864
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: someone that you're looking for here, there's no question facial hair.

865
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: And again you know someone who's not done. And unfortunately,

866
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: and this is where I want to get serious for

867
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: a second, Unfortunately, the fact that this doesn't appear to

868
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: be someone who's done something like this before, that raises

869
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: the threat profile of risk of mishaps, of emergencies and

870
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: things not going well where he may lose control of

871
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: the individual of the victim. And you know, you know,

872
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: let's say he's got rope or some type of cord

873
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: in that backpack with the atten to you know, the

874
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: intent to tie them up.

875
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 7: Well with that, you know it only.

876
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: It only remains to be seen what happened with that

877
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: gun or whatever else. If this is something that someone

878
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: had never attempted before and doesn't have anyone else there

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Speaker 1: to be able to hold the individual down. Why you

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Speaker 1: tie them up or something like that. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's really horrific. I think it's absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 1: So walk us through if people have been able to

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Speaker 1: let's say someone's watching and they've seen this, how can

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Speaker 1: they respond, How can they react?

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Speaker 7: How can they contact law enforcement?

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Speaker 12: Well, the big number that's been given out is simple,

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Speaker 12: one eight hundred call FBI. Savannah has posted that she

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Speaker 12: has made to posts on Instagram since this video and

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Speaker 12: image was released in the last couple of hours, saying please.

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Speaker 10: Call this number.

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Speaker 12: She firmly believes and I say she can talk about

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Speaker 12: Savannah Guthrie that her mom is still alive, that Nancy

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Speaker 12: is still alive, and someone's going to be able to

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Speaker 12: recognize a person on the video, and I agree. I

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Speaker 12: think this is incredibly clear video from a doorbell camera

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Speaker 12: and this is the break that the case needed. So

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Speaker 12: one eight hundred call FBI. And again you just start thinking,

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Speaker 12: if you have just ran into someone, I mean, we've

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Speaker 12: seen it for other cases, Elizabeth Smart, these other missing

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Speaker 12: person cases. You could just have an inkling or something

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Speaker 12: that's a gut feeling, and then you see this and

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Speaker 12: a light bulb goes off call and.

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Speaker 7: There's a possibility I've also hurt Linden.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow you and get access

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Speaker 1: to the new show you're putting together with Daily Wire?

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Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, we're deep diving into this every day on

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Speaker 12: Daily Wire. It'll be on the Daily Wire platforms. It's

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Speaker 12: called Finding Nancy Guthrie. It's also available on Apple and Spotify,

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Speaker 12: and we will have an episode today where you discuss.

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Speaker 10: All of this.

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Speaker 1: God bless you, Lynden, Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Incredible developments, Ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have my

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Speaker 1: permission to lay sure, Kay,