1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right Lauren, Hey, y'all, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: what's up. 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: It's Laura de Rosa and this is the latest with 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Lauren de Rosa. Now, this is your Deli dig on 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: conversations that shake the room. Baby. Now today we are 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: getting on into some things. We're gonna get right on 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: into the latest because we got a lot to talk about. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: We have some updates. So Tiffany Hattish and Jason Lee, 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood Unlocked founder, are not having a baby. I rushed 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: to get that out into say that because I've been 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: trying to figure this out for It's been weeks. So 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: let me just back on up right. August fourth, Tiffany 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Hattish and Jason Lee posted these photos to their Instagram. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: It was a photo of Tiffany and Jason and a 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: baby in Tiffany Hattish's hand, and of course all of 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: us and Jason's there, They're smiling, Jason's holding a baby shouler. 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: So we're all looking like, what is this giving right now? 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: Like what is happening? Like did y'all go adopt a 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: kid or have a Sarahgate have a kid. Not the 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: only reason to be fair because Jason Lee is a 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: very openly gay man, so for those who don't know 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: him to be fair. The only reason why we even 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: assume this is because a little minute ago, Jason Lee 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: and Tiffany Hattish were having a conversation and they were 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: talking about Tiffany Hattish wanting to have a baby and 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: having the baby with Jason Lee. Let's take a listen 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: to that. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: You said you would give me a kid. Are you 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: serious about that? 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about the cost of 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: because I said I wanted to do it the old 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: fashion where you said no, So I want to talk 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: to you about. 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: The cost so long, now we gotta do wait, I 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: don't like that word. 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta do the pound. 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: Okay, wait, So here's the deals. And I had an 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: agreement like back when I was nineteen, that we were 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: vacating that world, and since then we've like, it's sort 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: of like my my mother, we just packed up and left. 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: It never came back, right, So that wasn't funny, right 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: it is? So, hey, mom, but no, seriously, Yeah, after 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: I walked away from Vagina, I just like it was 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: like that STD's pain, sorrows, shooting, violent drugs, Like I 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 3: don't want to be around none of that anymore. Yeah, 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: but I still want a kid now. 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Ya could tell he's openly gave men, right, very openly 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: gave men. Okay, a nothing swinging back over this way 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: at all about Jason Lee. So when people when when 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: the picture was posted, naturally people thought like, Okay, they 54 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: did it. They either got a surrogate, they either adopted, 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: because it's no way and I mean not a way 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: in the devil's hell that Jason Lee put anything of 57 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: his inside of her to make a baby. Also, too, 58 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: we've been seeing Tiffany Hattish and she hasn't been pregnant, 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: so that also was a thing. But yes, so this 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: photo had everybody going. When I tell y'all, I literally 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: had people texting me like Laura, what's up? And I'm like, 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: what do you mean? Like everything cool? What do you 63 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: mean it's Jason Lee pregnant? And I'm like, it's Jason 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Lee pregnant? You mean it's Tiffany Hattish? Did Tiffany Hattish 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: have a baby? By Jason Lee. Yeah, what's going on? 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: And then also too, we never talked about it, so 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it here on the Latest with 68 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: Lona Rosa. We didn't talk about it on the breakfast 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: club we were going to one day, but I think 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: we just didn't get to it. I text Jason when 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: the photo dropped and I'm like, Yo, what's up, what's 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: going on here? And I sent the photo. All he 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: did was send me back a bottle and I'm like, 74 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: what does that mean? He didn't say anything else. And 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: then I was leaving Atlanta. I went and spoke at 76 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: the Podcast Summer in Atlanta. Shout out to the Podcast 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: Summer in Dshans for bringing me down. I had an 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: amazing time. It was so up put together, but I 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: was there. Jason Lee also spoke there as well too. 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: And when we were leaving flying back to New York, 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: Jason Lee was on my flight. We actually were like 82 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: in the same row, so we just sat next to 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: each other and I was asking him then, I'm like, 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: what's going on. You're gonna tell me what's up or not? 85 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: And He's like, I don't talk about kids. I don't 86 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: discuss kids. Child Jason Lee and Tiffany Hattters was on 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel. They talked about kids and they are not 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: having one, nor do they have one right now that 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: we know of. Let's take a listen. 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: What did you think of this whole baby Fiasca. 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: The whole world has lost their mind on this beautiful baby. 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: We just took a picture with a baby and then 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: and then that went crazy. So now we got a 95 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: god baby, we do. Yeah, I went ahead and made 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: it our god baby. 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: Okay, great? You and daddy, oh thank you. This is 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: the first time both of us being foster former foster 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: kids that were actually selecting to choose a baby that 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: wasn't ours. But that's why adoption is important. 101 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, adoption is important. It was very important, Jason. The 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: offer still is on the table if you want to 103 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: make a real baby together. Okay, we'll have a meet 104 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: our baby. Yeah. You know, I'm traditional. 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: And I'm still gay. 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: Y'all not me in the whole word world thought they 107 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: might have adopted a kid and it had us going, too, right, 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: They really had us going. I do like the plug 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: of you know, the whole like adoption thing, and you know, 110 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: plugging adopting kids. My mom was a foster mom for 111 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: about like ten or eleven years out of my life. 112 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: So my God, I don't call them my foster brothers 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: and sisters. I call them my god brothers and my 114 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: god sisters, or just my sisters and my brothers. Depends 115 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: on who I'm talking to. But some of them are 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, hey, y'all. But a lot of 117 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: them spent anywhere from like shoot three to four to 118 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: maybe ten years with us, with me and my brother 119 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: growing up in the same household as us, so and 120 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: my mom always did everything she could to try and 121 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: keep families together. So like if a foster kid came 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: to our house and she found out that you had 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: like a brother and a sister somewhere, she would request 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: from the social workers that we find you know your 125 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: other siblings and they get brought to our house. Things 126 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: like that. Just because my mom used to always talk 127 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: to me about just everything that children in the system 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: were going through. And Jason Lee and Tiphany Hattish were 129 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: both adopted, they talked a bit about that here and yeah, 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: so just you know, them being able to use the moment, 131 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: you know, in the attention to talk about the importance 132 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: of adopting kids, and you know, raising foster children, and 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: you know all those things. Don't little spent on that. 134 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: But Jason Lee, Tiffany Hattish, y'all have me going, Okay, 135 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I really thought I was sitting next to a faba. 136 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: We'll be sitting on that plane now. In other news, 137 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: up next on the latest TS Madison. So, TS Madison 138 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: sat down on her podcast, Outlaws with TS Madison with 139 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: Monique and Monique and TS Madison talked about a lot men. 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: They talked about a lot. I enjoyed the conversation from 141 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: start to finish. It was about an hour long conversation. 142 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: They got into the Monique and Tyler Perry things and 143 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: we talked about that a bit on the Breakfast Club 144 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: this morning, but they also got into Monique and everything 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: that was happening with Monique's son and an update there 146 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: where they are. Now, let's take a lesson to Monique. 147 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: Well, people shout as loud when they find out we're healing. 148 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: No people do the shows about Monique and her son 149 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: when they found out we've been talking, Will people now 150 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: shout and say, oh my god? Because we thrive on 151 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: what we believe to be negative. When it comes to 152 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 4: my son, that's mine. Yep, that is mine all day long. 153 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: That is my child. So whatever we go through, that's mine, 154 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: that's mine. What I will say is I let my 155 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: ego get in the way. I will say that publicly. 156 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: And I had to take that down because I had 157 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: to say, Monique, that is yours baby. He's thirty four 158 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: years old, you're fifty seven. You know, better take it down. 159 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: So for all the ones asking you about me and 160 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 4: my son, we're healing and I'm grateful and I prayed 161 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: for that healing. Please bring them back to me. 162 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Oh now, this was big for me to hear because 163 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Monique is not a person to I wouldn't say Monique 164 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: is not a person to a man when she's wrong, 165 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I would not say that. But to hear her say 166 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: it was my ego. I think it's hard for anybody, 167 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: whether you're Monique or not, to admit when you may 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: have added to the problem or you were a part 169 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: of the problem. But to hear her say what she said, 170 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, because a lot of people try and 171 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: make it seem like Monique is this person who just 172 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: loves a problem and loves the drama. Because when she 173 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: does speak about things she's been through, whether it's been 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: with Oprah, and she talked about that, Let's take a listen, Oprah. 175 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere until y'all take accountability and fix it. 176 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: Y'all messed with my livelihood, which messes with my family. 177 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: Never would I do that to anyone. 178 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Or the Tyler Perry incident. She talked about that, Let's 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: take a listen. 180 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: One of the biggest entertainers in the world is Tyler Perry, 181 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: and Tyler Perry told a lie on me, and that 182 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: lie costs me twelve years of my career twelve And 183 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 4: I know that you work for that man. But as 184 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: I told you before, and I'm gonna say it again, 185 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: until he fixes it, I will not stop because that's 186 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 4: how the monster is created. We're too afraid, what too scared, 187 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: We're too fearful that you're gonna take something from me. 188 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: So I'm just not gonna say anything. Harvey Weinstein is 189 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: where he's in jail now. That's been going on for decades, 190 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 4: but everybody said let it go, don't say nothing, which 191 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: allowed that man to do more damage to women over 192 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: the decades. I as long as I can help it. 193 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Tyler, her, you will not do this to 194 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: another as long as I can help it, because you 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: told a lie and you feel like you have the 196 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: God complex. So I ain't gotta fix it. Either you'll 197 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: fix it in life or you'll be dealt with in death. 198 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: It's totally up to you. But I'm not going nowhere. 199 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Or anything dealer with her. Me and her me and 200 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: her me and her man. Do not play with her daddy. Okay, 201 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: her daddy that I'm referring to is her who she's 202 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: been married to for years and years and years at 203 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: this point. But I found out on this podcast that 204 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: Monique and her husband were actually friends. There were roommates. First, 205 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: crazy story, let's take a listen to that. 206 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: If you knock on my door, I'm gonna let you in. 207 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: She knocked on my door because she did an interview, 208 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: and we're talking about our sister Tiffany had it. She 209 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: did an interview with GQ magazine, and some kind of way, 210 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: the conversation got to Monique and she said, I don't 211 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: have that husband. 212 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Of hers like she got. 213 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, sister, you rung the bell, you said 214 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: ding dong, And I say, come on, in and get 215 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: this pound. Okay, let's talk about it. Come on here 216 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: and get a slice of it. And I didn't say 217 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: it to be cruel. I said it to be factual. 218 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: When you have somebody loving you, you're not gonna get 219 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: DUIs because that man is loving you. I was gonna say, hey, 220 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: you've had too much. You're not driving. That man is 221 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: loving you. Was going to say, who whoa whoa wa, 222 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: what kind of videos are you making that looks like 223 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: you could appear to be grooming the child. It is 224 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: things that when you are being loved, you get pulled 225 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: back from all of the foolishness, You get pulled back 226 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: from all of the the superstarter I'm gonna start. You 227 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: get pulled back from that because you're enjoying being loved. 228 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: So whyever would you put yourself in a position to 229 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: sacrifice your life. 230 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: So whenever moniquets talking about these things, people love to 231 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: make it seem like she's this like negative Nancy, this 232 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: drama queen, this oh my god. But to hear her 233 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: take accountability in that moment, it's I mean, it's her son, right. 234 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: So I think that's a different level of conversation when 235 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: you're talking about your own child. But what was going 236 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: down with Monique and her son did play out publicly. 237 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: So to hear her take that accountability publicly, I thought 238 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: was a really big deal. But I mean, that's all 239 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: she's been asking for, you know, after legend and things 240 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: that she alleged about all the people we just mentioned, 241 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: like an Oprah or Tyler Perry from the beginning. So 242 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: to see her do it, I was like, I like that. 243 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: I like this Monique, like you know, when she was 244 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: talking about her son, Like this Monique right here, that 245 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: is the mom that is protective, that is about her 246 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: family and her bit and her sweet babies and all 247 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: her sweet babies. This is what I like right here, 248 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: because typically I think the conversation with her is always 249 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: about what's done to her and not that. I mean, 250 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't know all of the ins and outs of 251 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: the situation with her son, so I don't know what 252 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: was done to who in that situation. But you know, 253 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: just to hear somebody take accountability, it's just it's a 254 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: good thing to hear witness. And I think that the 255 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: reason why I say that is because it represents a 256 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: really good a really good place of like peace or 257 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: healing like when you are good in a situation, you're 258 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: able to look back and say, Okay, here's how I 259 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: might have contributed to that situation. Let's not gonna send 260 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: a Monique's issue with her son Shaloon, because back in 261 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: February twenty twenty four, Monique sat down with Shanna Sharp 262 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: on Club Chase Shay and talked about their relationship and 263 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: that was the down spiral of the things. 264 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: Let's take a listen my oldest son, Shelan, and this 265 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: is what I want to say to this. There's some 266 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: people that are saying, oh, you should be ashamed of 267 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 5: your mothering skills, you should be ashamed of yourself. This 268 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: is what I'll say. Let's let it play out because 269 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 5: the same ones that said to me, I was crazy, 270 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: I was deranged, we watched it play out. So just 271 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 5: like with my son, we'll watch this play out. And 272 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 5: I do want to address this though. Shealan, When you 273 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 5: say her daddy, her daddy, then that's what mommy gonna say, 274 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: stop playing, because you know this has been Uncle said 275 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 5: your whole life. Uncle said knew you before you knew you. 276 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: So for you to say her three sons, yes, you're 277 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 5: absolutely right. He has three sons. He can't claim you 278 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 5: as his son because he's always been uncle Sid and 279 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: he knows. 280 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 6: Your daddy very well and loved that brother. And the 281 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 6: irony of all of this is you're not expressing the 282 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 6: relationship that you have with your father where you spoke 283 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: ill to him, not to mention spoke ill to your mother. 284 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 6: But somehow your mother and father and I all have 285 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 6: a loving relationship and communicate back and forth because of 286 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 6: the love that we. 287 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 7: Have for you. 288 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Now, after this, her son got online and responded, and 289 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: his take on the situation was completely different. 290 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 7: To address the clips to Shit interview that she did, 291 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 7: where she states and she prays to the universe in 292 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,359 Speaker 7: regards to reconciling our relationship, as I stated, is odd. 293 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 7: My mother and I both know that that is a 294 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 7: very false narrative, and I would like to free her 295 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 7: of having to continue telling that lie. Faith without work 296 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 7: is dead, and neither one of us cares to put 297 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 7: forth any effort to reconcile with the other. We are separate, 298 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 7: as she put it, because she doesn't care to be 299 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 7: my mother any more than I care to be her son. 300 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 7: Neither one of us has had the desire to reach 301 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 7: out to the other in a very long time, and 302 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 7: I don't think that either of us anticipates that feeling. Ever. 303 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 7: Returning speaking with my mother directly, in my experience, will 304 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 7: either lead to some odd newfound moment of clarity in 305 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 7: regards to how she was as my mother, or she 306 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 7: retreats back to Daddy to move forward with a conversation. 307 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 7: And I'm tired of hearing my mother's truths. Newsflash. I'm 308 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 7: not sure if people know, but standing in your truth 309 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 7: doesn't make you noble. I'm not sure if people are 310 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 7: aware of that. But responding this way, I feel as 311 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 7: though it allows me to say my peace uninterrupted. 312 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Now, following all of this, there was a photo that 313 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: was posted to with Monique and her son and it 314 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: talked about them reconciling finally and being able to begin 315 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: conversations with healing and figuring it out. And again, I 316 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: think seeing that photo, knowing this background and hear Monique 317 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: tell ts Madison her ego was in the way she 318 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: can be accountable for that, she had to think, Okay, 319 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: this is my child, I am the adult here, and 320 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: she pulled herself up by the bootstrap and figured it 321 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: out in a way where they will where they're now 322 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: able to be at a peaceful place. It's just a 323 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: good thing to see. I think, you know, it's always 324 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: tough with women and family, and I kind of wish 325 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: that ts Madison had dived more into this when Monique 326 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: was talking about her son, because I've heard Monique talk 327 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: about the situation a lot of Monique, we would love 328 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: to hear have you here on the Bronco Grinding production 329 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: of The Latest with Lauren de Rosa if you ever 330 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: listen to the podcast. If you listen, let me know 331 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: we would love to have you here because what I 332 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: would love to talk to you about. We don't got 333 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: to get into Tyler Perry again. We don't gotta talk 334 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: about Oprah again. I would love to talk to you 335 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: about when you were figuring out that balance. And I 336 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: know you talked a bit about this on Club Chase Shape, 337 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: but I think the conversation would be different with the woman, 338 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: and I think I'll be interested in having the conversation 339 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: because as a woman that is trying to figure out 340 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: when do I have kids, When I have them, how 341 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: do I balance career? My career requires me. I feel 342 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: absent as a daughter and a green daughter right now, 343 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like laughing about it, but like I literally 344 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: it has caused me, in some instances so much anxiety 345 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: and so much stress is trying to figure everything out 346 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: as things are moving and grooving and you know, now 347 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm in the flow of things, like we got the podcast, 348 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: we got the studio, we know the daily time, I 349 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: know the time for breakfast club, like all of this stuff. 350 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: Though it's like everything is moving, not even was. It's 351 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: moving so fast and things are so new that I'm 352 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: used to being able to dedicate a certain amount of 353 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: time to family, being able to pick up the phone 354 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: a certain amount of times, and I can't do that 355 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: all the time. And the other day my mom literally 356 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: asks me. And it's probably even worse when it's your child, 357 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: but my mom asked me the other day, you don't 358 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: love me no more? And she was so serious. She 359 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: was like, you don't love me no more? And I'm like, 360 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: what do you mean? She was like, we are best 361 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: friends and you don't even call me sometimes, just say 362 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: good morning the same way that you were doing prior 363 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: to all this you know stuff, And I'm like, dang, 364 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: I had to think about it. Like it's because like 365 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: once I'm up. I'm going, I get up. We at 366 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: the breakfast club. We leave the breakfast club, I head 367 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: her to the podcast. I get home from the podcast, 368 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: I might take an hour to myself just to not talk, 369 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: and then I'll call my mom and just kind of 370 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: download her day. But you know, hearing from me in 371 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: the morning starts her day, and we're really close. Same 372 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: thing with my grandmother, and she's been complaining about that too. 373 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: So when I'm listening to you know, Monique talk about 374 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: being accountable for things and ego being in the way 375 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: and finding a pa a place of peace and healing. 376 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: All these years later, my first it was I would 377 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: love to hear, just even mentally, what you're dealing with 378 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: as a mom who is building career. Career is moving 379 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: so fast, Monique, Because come on, y'all, y'all can play 380 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: with Monique all y'all want and disagree with her when 381 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: it comes to, you know, what she's going through with 382 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: other people in the industry currently. Like you know, I 383 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: don't agree with everything she says. I don't agree with 384 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: everything she does. But one of the things that I've 385 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: always said is that Monique is an icon. Monique is 386 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: a legend. Her career is and was super big, right, 387 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: and think about at the height of it having a 388 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: child and trying to figure out the balance of the things. 389 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: And you know her her career is also very physical 390 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: where she has to show up. She's an actress. You know, 391 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: she was hosting a TV show, y'all. Remember the y'all 392 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: Remember the Monique show. She was hosting a TV show. 393 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: I believe that was on Bet. She's on the road 394 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: touring as a comedian. All three of these things happen 395 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: and y'all, and they're all at a height, and it's 396 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: I think, now we have so many more resources, like 397 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: we got the nannies and the nanny services and just 398 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: so many different things, even like people talking about mental 399 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: health now, I think puts you in a different space 400 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: as a parent who's trying to juggle things and knowing 401 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: like I need to take time for myself, or I 402 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: need to devote more time for my family, or I 403 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: need to find a better balance because you know, mentally, 404 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: this might be putting my child in a certain space 405 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: as well. Things are just different now. Would love to 406 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: talk to her just about what that journey was like, 407 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: because she was in a very different time, things are 408 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: moving very fast for her, and they were up. It 409 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: was the peak of everything, while also dealing with her 410 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: own battles and struggles. You know, she talked about being 411 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: overweight on the podcast on with T. S. Madison and 412 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: how it affected her, and you know how she almost 413 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: she didn't even know at some points, you know, what 414 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: her weight was doing to her, and she said this herself, 415 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: just how things were perceived. She talked about watching the 416 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: Parkers and being like, oh wow, no one told me. 417 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: She talked about meeting an agent and the agent saying 418 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: to her, because of your size, you can't be sexy 419 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: and fun, You'll always be the fun, fat friend who 420 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: plays second fiddle to someone. So you're dealing with all 421 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: this new you know, you have, you have a child, 422 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: you're raising, just all the things trying to figure out, 423 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: like trying to figure would love to have that conversation there. 424 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard her in depth talk 425 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: about that. I know she did get into it a 426 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: bit on Club Sha Shay, and she's touched on it 427 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: a bit, but I mean in depth in a way 428 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: where we could really understand and honestly learn from that 429 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: part of her journey now, at the end of the day, 430 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: there's always a lot to talk about, and every single 431 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: time you guys join me right here to talk about it, 432 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: I am so appreciative. Ah, we're on the road to 433 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: a hundred episodes, y'all. I'm like, let's send twenty four 434 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: hours away from one hundred episodes. That is fire. I 435 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: am excited. Thank you guys for tuning in my Lowriders. 436 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Guys. I will see you in my 437 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: next episode with all of the latest