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Speaker 1: The volume, we have our NBA Finals matchup.

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Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers are going to the NBA Finals for the

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Speaker 2: first time since two thousand one five one oh eight.

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Speaker 2: They had seven guys in double figures. It was just

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Speaker 2: too much to flurry. The Knicks played well as long

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Speaker 2: as they could, kept the games as close as they could,

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Speaker 2: but it.

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Speaker 1: Was just too much.

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Speaker 2: They just have too much firepower for them, and they're

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Speaker 2: going to the NBA Finals to face the OKC Thunder.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to a one twenty one o eight victory, they

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Speaker 2: take care of the New York Knicks in eight games.

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Speaker 2: In six gamescuse the eight game damn that would be

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Speaker 2: something his six games.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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Speaker 1: That's Chad o Cho Senko Johnson and.

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Speaker 2: Joining us tonight to break down this game and to

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Speaker 2: look ahead to the NBA Finals. He's an NBA champ,

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Speaker 2: He's an eight time All Star, eight time All NBA selection,

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Speaker 2: three time Defensive Players of the Year. My homie from

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Speaker 2: Here he is, Ladies and gentlemen, Dwight Howard, what's with it?

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Speaker 1: Then they out.

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Speaker 2: The places have done it. They put seven guys on Joe.

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Speaker 2: We talked about them being a team by committee. You

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Speaker 2: never knowscal Siakam showed up and you look at the

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Speaker 2: games in which he played extremely well.

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Speaker 1: The games were not close when he did not play well.

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Speaker 2: The Knicks one and Tyreese Halliburton had a phenomenal night

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Speaker 2: again twenty one points, thirteen assists, six rebounds. You know

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Speaker 2: he turned finally he turned the ball over. But he

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Speaker 2: was great. Them was unbelievable. His defense was sensation. Nie

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Speaker 2: Smith played well. I thought the difference in the ball

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Speaker 2: game was guys and Dwight. I don't know what you think.

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Speaker 2: I thought TV Thomas Bryant coming off the bench. He

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Speaker 2: had three big threes. Oh show he blocked the shot.

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Speaker 1: I mean his.

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Speaker 2: President in Odi Thomas he was all over the players.

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Speaker 2: I thought they played well watching this game. What do

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Speaker 2: you think what was the major reason that the Pacers

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Speaker 2: were able to win this series? They weren't favored in

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Speaker 2: any of the series, but they ended up winning and

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Speaker 2: going to the NBA Finals, and they make quick work

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Speaker 2: of teams that were seen higher than them and was

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Speaker 2: favored over them. Why were the Pacers able to win

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Speaker 2: this series and make it look relatively easy in doing it?

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Speaker 3: I would say they're one of the deepest teams outside

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Speaker 3: of ok See is why they why they've been winning.

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Speaker 3: They can go one through ten or they can play

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Speaker 3: the whole anybody from one through ten. They could play

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Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest reasons why their offense. You know,

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Speaker 3: you got Holley, He's gonna give you buckets, He's gonna

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Speaker 3: difference again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the difference maker for me. And I thought

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Speaker 2: he was aggressive. I thought both guys were aggressive to night.

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Speaker 2: Remember the other night, Oh, Joe Halliburton was not aggressive.

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Speaker 2: I think he had two shots at the Haven tonight.

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Speaker 2: He was nine of seventeen five from the three point line,

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Speaker 2: one on one from the free throw line, Pascal Siaka

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Speaker 2: extremely aggressive, ten of eighteen, three or five from the

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Speaker 2: three point line, eight of eleven from the free throw line.

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Speaker 1: He had thirty one points. Nie Smith ten points, Turner

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Speaker 1: eleven points, Mim Hard fourteen points. Halliburton, as I mentioned

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Speaker 1: twenty one and thirteen, you had Obie Topping twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Thomas Brian TV came in with thirteen minutes, three or

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Speaker 2: eleven big points.

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Speaker 1: And that was the difference in the series.

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Speaker 2: All Seri as long, Oh joll We talked about this

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Speaker 2: their bitch, because they're going to play nine ten guys

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Speaker 2: every game, it does not matter.

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Speaker 3: And you see.

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Speaker 2: Tim started trying to do that. He started going dabbling

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Speaker 2: into his bench a little bit more. He played mcbrid

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Speaker 2: played all along, and then they inserted Robinson, Mitchell Robinson

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Speaker 2: off the bench. But you saw Landry Shammit get some

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Speaker 2: so that's normally what we see they normally play seven guys,

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Speaker 2: seven guys, but they started playing eight, nine guys. But

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Speaker 2: it was not enough because their benches, they they couldn't

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Speaker 2: get the production to match what Indiana bench was giving.

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Speaker 1: Oh till you watch this, and I know you thought

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Speaker 1: the Knicks we was gonna plull this thing off. Yeah

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 5: Listen, I love I lost big money too, man, I

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Speaker 5: lost Dwight. That's what really hurt. That's what really hurt.

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Speaker 1: You know. I had a bed with my old lady.

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Speaker 5: I had a bed with my girl, man, and and

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Speaker 5: to me, it's it's it's it's a shame because she

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Speaker 5: ain't gonna get paid either, But the.

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Speaker 1: Next I would get my money. Anyway. Now back to

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Speaker 1: the games, right, I mean, listen, I was hurt. Honestly.

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Speaker 5: I wanted the Knicks to pull this off, not just

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Speaker 5: for not just the basketball team, for the city, for

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Speaker 5: everything you know New York has been through.

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Speaker 1: But I would have loved to see them be back

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Speaker 1: in that been through, nothing been through.

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Speaker 2: You gotta look, I would agree with you if you're

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Speaker 2: talking about they ain't been.

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Speaker 1: There since the seventies I was for and they ain't

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Speaker 1: been there since.

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Speaker 2: They went there. You know, you remember when they went

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Speaker 2: there was or they lost to Tim Duncan and.

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Speaker 6: Then ninety nine ninety nine, Yeah, no with Patrick you

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Speaker 6: when he missed the finger roll dough.

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Speaker 1: That was ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: That was that's when the Indiana with that year you remember,

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Speaker 2: you remember they lost, Remember they lost to a Tim

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Speaker 2: Duncan there. Look at up ninety nine in Indiana with

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Speaker 2: the following year and got beat their eyes beat out

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Speaker 7: But they haven't won since seventy three. N That's that's

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Speaker 7: that's what I mean, going as once but actually actually winning.

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Speaker 7: But listen tonight, man, listen the next too many turnovers. Yes,

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Speaker 7: in order for them to have to win this game tonight.

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Speaker 5: Boy Brunson and Cat would have had would have had

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Speaker 5: to have an out of out of boy the experience.

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Speaker 3: I think Bronson was holding on to the basketball too much.

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Speaker 1: Too long. I heard people talk about that earlier. But

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Speaker 1: that's the way he's always running with gas.

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Speaker 3: It is, but he was tiring himself out and then

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Speaker 3: nobody else is getting shot up because he holding the

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Speaker 3: ball and came just trying to drive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, hey, listen, not the next missing free

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Speaker 5: throws on they had what I think almost eighteen eighteen plus.

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Speaker 2: Some turn miss nine free throws. They were seventeen to

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Speaker 2: twenty six from the free throw line. Listen, and on.

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Speaker 1: Top of on top of the pacers thrive on fast,

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Speaker 1: great points and posts turnover. Yes they do. I mean

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Speaker 1: you watched it. You watched this game, guys.

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Speaker 2: By four minutes left in the third quarter, Indiana turned

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Speaker 2: up their defense and what was the sixth point lead,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden it went the double figures. And

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Speaker 2: from that point on like this, So that defense was

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Speaker 2: a nim hard knee smith obie past calf. Those guys

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Speaker 2: were on it from that fourth but the last four

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Speaker 2: minutes of the third quarter and through that, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: the third quarter and then into the fourth quarter, their

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Speaker 2: defense went to another level and they started turning them over,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudd what was a six point lead,

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Speaker 2: it went to fifteen, like in the blink of an eye,

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Speaker 2: just like that.

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Speaker 1: And that's what.

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Speaker 2: And on made baskets, I'm like, hold on, wait a minute, Dwight,

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Speaker 2: I know you're watching this. On Joe, Yeah, the U

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Speaker 2: two Ojoe, the Knicks would make a basket. They would

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Speaker 2: pass the ball to Halle he would get the ball

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Speaker 2: ahead to them hard.

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Speaker 1: I mean to.

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Speaker 2: Aiaia was euro step and so basically from the time

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Speaker 2: they take the ball out to the ball in the.

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Speaker 1: Basket in three seconds. Yeah yeah, I mean, I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 1: y'all can't on a Maine basket. You giving up a

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Speaker 1: layup or nothing. Boys tired, They tired, They tired, Yah,

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Speaker 1: they ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Because the thing was that, Look, I knew after the

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Speaker 2: first game that the Knicks were in trouble because you

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Speaker 2: lost and Jaylen Brunston and Cat went crazy. Jaylen Brunson

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Speaker 2: had forty three, Cat had thirty six, and you still lose.

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Speaker 1: So what was the likelihood the White.

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Speaker 2: That Jaylen brus was gonna average forty and then and

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Speaker 2: Cad was gonna average thirty.

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Speaker 1: That's what they would have had.

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Speaker 2: To do in order to win yere and I just

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Speaker 2: I just didn't see that happening, especially with the committee

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Speaker 2: that the Pacers have they're gonna get. When they won,

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Speaker 2: they had six guys and double figures every time. Find

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Speaker 2: the same guys. Now they had seven guys in double figures,

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Speaker 2: and it's hard to defend them because who's their goal

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Speaker 2: to guy?

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Speaker 8: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Siakam is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it Halle because we saw aaron Ne Smith come

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Speaker 2: into that game one and make six three pointers in

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Speaker 2: the last five minutes of the ball game, and we

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Speaker 2: saw we know Neil actually and when you go back

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Speaker 2: and think about it, matth Burn really didn't play well

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Speaker 2: this series. He's one of their better players, especially off

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Speaker 2: the bench, and you got he got in foul trouble,

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Speaker 2: so it was really hard for him to get a rhythm.

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Speaker 2: So there's only really two games in which he played really,

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Speaker 2: really well. He's due to have a stretcher game. But

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Speaker 3: Tim's gotta I think he gotta start playing this bench.

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Speaker 1: A little bit. But I know he don't really, he

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Speaker 2: only a four point game. Yeah, those teams are in

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Speaker 2: So it's like, if you gonna beat them, you gotta

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Speaker 2: put them away. You can't play with them. They just asked.

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Speaker 2: Then they found out gave one first hand.

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Speaker 2: They had him down by fourteen. It was in the

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Speaker 1: They were sixteen of nineteen from the three point line.

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Speaker 1: We have the one that that one I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 1: He didn't. I had never seen him play. I never

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Speaker 1: heard of him playing basketball. That was Jesus. I say

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Speaker 2: I don't see. There ain't no mention in the Bible.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: God damn.

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Speaker 5: I mean Brunson didn't have have a game he needed

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Speaker 1: They cat but that got the nim Hard. Nim Hard

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, okay See. He has been the best team.

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Speaker 1: They got six guys. Uh. It starts with Dord and.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be I think it's gonna be a better

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Speaker 1: Now. Look, I know everybody, Dwight. Everybody wanted the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: They're like, man, okay see, and Indiana, hey, you should

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Speaker 3: He's been in a couple of days. What we gotta

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Speaker 3: that is gonna be really good because both of these

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Speaker 3: don't know who could be the go to guy for Indiana,

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Speaker 2: And I think the thing is is that look, okay,

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Speaker 2: Shae his throwing car. He's like, damn, efficiency, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: But I Am not going to look back and say, man,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't aggressive enough. He's aggressive as hell. And Boyne

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Speaker 1: He got another guy. Oh yeah, just a little bigger

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Speaker 1: He's the MVP and he exudes confidence. Now he below me.

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Speaker 2: When a guy wins the MVP, Dwight, there's something like

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have to be on their best. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna pick him up full court just

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Speaker 1: You got to, yeah, you know what you know got

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny is I think most basketball enthusiasts,

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Speaker 1: I think most of you guys are are picking the

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Speaker 5: And I don't know why, just inside, for some reason,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the thing is, Look when you

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Speaker 2: They do a great job of passing, playing pass lanes,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make them play. We're gonna make you execute

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna get some I mean it's hard

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Speaker 2: Hey, I think that I don't know voted said like

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Speaker 1: Over rate that.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, me and uncle was talking about it when it

438
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 5: came out, and I'm thinking about, you know, when they

439
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 5: talk about players in the NFL when they do the

440
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 5: top fifty or top one hundred, and I'm as long

441
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 5: as I played, I never ever voted for anything like that.

442
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: So you played the game for a long time. At

443
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: any point of your career, did you ever vote for players?

444
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 3: I do like if we do the team stuff like

445
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 3: one of the best teammates and stuff like that, but

446
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: that on the court, on the course. That's why I

447
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 3: think that stuff is made up by media.

448
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 6: I don't.

449
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't.

450
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 5: I don't think it's and did they just say it's

451
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 5: the players, oh the vote, They say the player said it.

452
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: But I think it's not about the media. I don't know.

453
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't like that. Man K

454
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: what's his name? Just lost?

455
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 6: Man?

456
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he got knocked out. He went down. It

457
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: just ended. Damn uh uh. Guess what, guys, what happened.

458
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 2: The Eastern Conference Larry Bird winner is Pascal Siakam, Tyrese

459
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: Halliburton was second in points, first, in rebounds first and

460
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: assists first, and steals first. In starts, he was tied

461
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 2: with threes. Pascal Siakam received five first place votes. Tyrese

462
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: Halliburton received four. Dwight uh arch Burner of NBA dot

463
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: Com had Halliburton, Tim von temps Uh had Pascal Siakam,

464
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: Jamal Caryer had Tyre's Halliburton. Uh In after Star Wars

465
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: Reporter had Pascal Siakam, Katie George It's Been Radio had

466
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam, Fred Katz, The Athletic had Pascaliakam, Reggie Miller,

467
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: ty and t Pas, Tyrese Halliburton, Steve Popper, News Daycam,

468
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: Joe Varden the Athletic, Tyrese Halliburton. It could have got

469
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: it could have. I mean if you go back and look,

470
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: you look at the game. I mean those thoughts, I mean,

471
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: both of.

472
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: Those guys are so important to the to the success

473
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: of the team.

474
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you go back and you what was that

475
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: game one Tyree's I mean that game he had thirty

476
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: nine with a game two.

477
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: That was in the game four.

478
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: He had another thirty point games and then tonight he

479
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: had another thirty point game. But look if they if

480
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: Halla Burton had a won, I wouldn't have been disappointed.

481
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not.

482
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 2: I mean, I can make a case. I can make

483
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: a compelling argument for either guy. Somebody had to win

484
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: because guess what happened. Glad you had it nine had

485
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 2: nine people before, because you had ten, you probably got

486
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: a tie. And then they had to split the ward

487
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: and then nobody wont those split awards, especially today's game.

488
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: But congratulations the passcal siaka.

489
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 2: I mean, but Halle came. Well look at look at

490
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: what Halle had on when he was in the tunnel.

491
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 2: Now he looked like he was coming to play. I mean,

492
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: like this here you have to look he tweet. I

493
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: think he is still said, hey see you packed to

494
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: come back to New York.

495
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: Go Halle go Halle go. Handling had that ain't number.

496
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: That's that's the funeral outfit on. Yeah, well he ba

497
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: hey when he buried this man, damn man. Hey, I'm

498
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: i'm I'm a rule for the I'm a rule for

499
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: the Pacers. I'm rooted for the under dog.

500
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 5: I'm rootle for the Pacers only because they're closer Cincinnati

501
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 5: right down.

502
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: The Street, I'm rooted for you to pay me my money.

503
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: This is gonna be one of the best finals. Man,

504
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a doom.

505
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Halliberd was trying to pull a Lebron he

506
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: tried to leave, or Yoki trying to lead his team

507
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: and everything. I mean, he was second in points, he

508
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: was first in rebounds or see it still stocks first,

509
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: and he was tied for for threes. But Pascal look

510
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: like I said those games, I mean pat Game two

511
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: Pascal was huge, thirty nine big points, and then he

512
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: followed that up in game four with boom a big

513
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: another big night, and he followed up again the thirty

514
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: one point and every time they tried to make a run,

515
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: Pascal would make a play, either with a rebound, it

516
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: was a big two point shot or a three point shot.

517
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: So I ain't mad at him. I mean the man a.

518
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: He hit the guy who probably held that thing together

519
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: because you know what a fan of Dwhight, he had

520
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: championship sperience.

521
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: He's on my twenty nineteen Toronto team.

522
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: I was just about to say that, man, he has

523
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: been here before, you know, so he knows exactly what

524
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: it takes to win.

525
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: He has that experience. He has that championship pedigree.

526
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: This is why he was highly sought after coming from

527
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: coming to Torontoto. So, man, that's like I was saying

528
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: before we got old. He went in there and saying, listen,

529
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm the captain now, hey, but I like looking at me.

530
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: Look at it, hey, Irish, look at me. Yeah, he was,

531
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: and you know they look, they tried to give him

532
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: a hard time. There was a reporter ask him, like,

533
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: what happened in game five? And he said, they just

534
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: played hard. It wasn't that we didn't play hard. They

535
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: played hard. Bet some point, somebody's gotta win. Yeah, I mean,

536
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: and sometimes you can play your hardest. But it didn't

537
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 3: look like they came out.

538
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: Look, and the way the Knicks came out tonight, you

539
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: can tell it was a sense of desperation. They were really,

540
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: really desperate because I don't want you celebrated. Look, I

541
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: don't want you celebrated at all, but I damn sure

542
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: don't want you celebrating in my house.

543
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: You're not finished through no birthday party for somebody else

544
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: at my house.

545
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: Nahoo, take that bait down to the YMCA, but you

546
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: ain't celebrating here. So they got them back, and you know,

547
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: he's like, bro, I don't know where you're going with this.

548
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: They just hey, hey, it happened. It is basketball. Sometimes

549
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: the team played, they play, you know, they get the

550
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: loose balls, they make some shots.

551
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: They played harder than you. It's not that we didn't

552
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: play hard. They played harder. Yeah.

553
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: And now it'd be interesting to see what the what

554
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: the reporter has to say about Pascal performance tonight and

555
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: being the Larry Bird the Eastern Conference m VP of

556
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals.

557
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: That's so tough. Congrats to pass down. Man. Oh, it

558
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: was the guy. Guy. It was the guy last year,

559
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: the guy banned from covering Caitlyn Clark.

560
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing that on purpose. Start because he's said

561
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: something slick. He was something slick about yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

562
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah.

563
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: Okay, he's doing that on purpose.

564
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: He's purposely he's he's purposely created those moments, the same

565
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 5: one remember when Jim Rome purpose Yeah yeah, he's doing

566
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 5: the thing they clipped for me. Yeah yeah, he's purposely

567
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: creating those moments.

568
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: The thing is old. Look I didn't I didn't.

569
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 2: I didn't go to journalism school, but I know as

570
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: a reporter You're not supposed to be a part of

571
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: the story. Your job is to cover what you see,

572
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: talk about what you saw, but never become a part

573
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: of the story.

574
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: And sometimes that happens.

575
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: Guy has become a part of the story, and he

576
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: tried to make himself a part of the story. Just

577
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: like look Caitlyn doing that gesture to our boyfriend or

578
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: whoever she was doing it to, bro Why would you

579
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: fix your mouth to add telling about if you, if you,

580
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: if she did it, if he did it to you,

581
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: why you do it when you do it back to her? Man,

582
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: stop it you. You never insert yourself in a situation

583
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: like that. But I'm glad for Pascal. I'm happy that

584
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: he played extremely well tonight. He's played extremely well in

585
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: the series. But Soda Tallary Saliburton. That's not to take

586
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: it anything away from Halle, because Halle had nothing to

587
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: be hanging his head about. I thought Halley was unbelievable.

588
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: He's the captain. He's the captain. He steers everything, but

589
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: heay so make sure everybody's in place. He's always hey,

590
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: he gets up, all his head is up. He looking

591
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: to get an easy one. And but they went it tonight.

592
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Pace and the Indiana Pacers. Indiana Pacers are

593
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: going to the NBA Finals. Coach, a, you ain't played

594
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: the whole night. Coach, Hey, Dwight, going to get in there,

595
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: go get this last.

596
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: If I'm on the knees the Placers.

597
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: Oh, if I'm on the team right now, yeah, oh,

598
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: he said, go with fifteen second, little, you're gonna get.

599
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: That fifteen of you go get that d day Hey, how.

600
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: Hey Howard, I would say, coach, when you want me

601
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: to go in or you want me to see what

602
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: the crowd, I might go on the try.

603
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go in the game in fifteen say you're

604
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: gonna go get that last. Hey, oh Joe, that's like, hey,

605
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: they put you in for the nil down.

606
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. Nah, I'm gonna be kneeling on

607
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: the sideline. That's not it. If I'm on the Nicks.

608
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: Something out. Oh So if you're on the winning team,

609
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to get the fifteen second.

610
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 4: I'm good, I would saying, coach, Man, i'm'na be stunning

611
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 4: just like the rest of them had you got up.

612
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, they try to put me in the

613
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: nil down, sayd Coach the next time I go taking me,

614
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna be saying the prayer inside of the locker room.

615
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: That's the next time I'm thinking they've been nod coach.

616
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm good that disrespect.

617
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 9: But I mean, hey, everybody, I mean, hold on, everybody

618
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 9: got in. Nah, you can't, that's too late. You might

619
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 9: as well keep him in for fifteen seconds. Somebody, somebody

620
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 9: played all season. You're gonna put them in for fifteen

621
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 9: sixes in the game. That's a sign of that's disrespectful.

622
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 9: What's the colic that it?

623
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: PJ and Campaign was the only two that didn't get

624
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: in for the Knicks, and Jackson and Bradley were the

625
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: only two that didn't get in for the Pacers.

626
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Guess what, Hey, I'm going there.

627
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna go in because thirty five

628
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: years from now, when I'm telling my grandkids, they don't know, Hey,

629
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: you know your poppa got in there here for five

630
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: quick points.

631
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna go back and look at the video. Man,

632
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: they got it now.

633
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: It's hey, hold on, hey, hey man, you know your

634
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: pop got it? A rebound, a reap out to get

635
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: in the sense or something right.

636
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 5: Everything I do NBA players obviously NBA players having centers

637
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: in that contracts as well.

638
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: You think maybe him going into that that short amount

639
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: of time might have.

640
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: Triggered in sentive Man probably having sent it, if you

641
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: if you want to play, if you play, if you

642
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: you want to if you go to the NBA Finals

643
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 2: or something like that, you get an MVP award, Defensive

644
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: Player of the Year award like that, But not know

645
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: if I get in the game and the NB.

646
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: No, hell noah, that's totally disrespectful. What logical reason is

647
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: it to put someonemen in the game? Let me get

648
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: Let me get that burn I've been practicing.

649
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: You can't eat get loose.

650
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: The other team just but I need I need twenty

651
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: seconds to get to get loose. You got fifteen seconds.

652
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: But by the time I get stretched, the game gonna

653
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: be over. Coach Man, I mean so tight for real.

654
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 4: I know, I was just saying I'd be so mad

655
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: at the coach really trying to put me in a

656
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: game with fifteen Say, I.

657
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Might take the ball and throw it in the stage.

658
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: You know what you hey going. Let me let me

659
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: tell you. I don't know what's worse, but these might

660
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: have to be the two worst things is for a coaster.

661
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 5: Ask you to go in the game with ten seconds

662
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: or just a little bit of time on the clock,

663
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 5: or when you was a little kid and you got

664
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: picked last and pe most of them is a quips.

665
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: That's but hearing the thing. There ain't no footage of

666
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 5: me getting picked last.

667
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: They getting picked last, and while you're bull driving they,

668
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: there ain't no footage you be going in there with

669
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: no kids seconds on the clock doing no kneel down neither.

670
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: So I've covered either way. But I mean some guys like, hey,

671
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: I got at least I got in the game, man,

672
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: I used to be howg it was when you growing

673
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: up in little league? I mean everybody did, playing the

674
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: full play all the minutes like you and I Dwight

675
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: have played that. You Sometimes kids just get the game.

676
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Hey son, gonna get in there and be happy?

677
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: Be happy?

678
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: Is it?

679
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the only way you and the former

680
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: get You go go home with a clean you and

681
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: form again.

682
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: Just to get out there. Man, No, don't put your

683
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: kid out there for ten seconds, man, fifteen second, that's

684
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: over it.

685
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: Don't let him sit on the sideline. Check this out.

686
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: The last two teams to trade Paul George Or in

687
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, Indiana traded him for Victor Oladipo to

688
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: Okay C ok C traded him to the Clippers for

689
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Shay Gilgers. Ain't that that that that that? I mean, hey,

690
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: that ain't a bad deal that that that did? That

691
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: that did all right? Yeah, that word both for both parties,

692
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: both parties. Yeah, yeah, it's out.

693
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 5: It's working out well. But listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna

694
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 5: give you one. I'm gonna give you one. And and

695
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 5: in soccer terms, for that, so PHG one Champions League today, right, yeah, yeah,

696
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: not so long ago. Ps PSG had three of what

697
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 5: I would like to consider some of the best players

698
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: in the world at Messi. They had Aymar and they

699
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: had in Bape the reason that Bape leaves Messi's down

700
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 5: here in inner Miami. Theymar is that Santos right now,

701
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, obviously after tearing this a cl

702
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: in Saudi and obviously it's it's a new team. They

703
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: got a young nineteen year old I don't know how

704
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 5: to pronounce his last name, his French last name, Doe

705
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: or Doy something like that, and they just won Champions

706
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: League today.

707
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: But they couldn't even sniff a champions league obviously with

708
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: all that talent on them. These ain't just know anybody.

709
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 5: We talk about the Krim, that La Krim when it

710
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: comes to players all on one team, right, and they

711
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 5: just happened like that.

712
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I understand how many how

713
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: many leagues?

714
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: You think, how many championship if you think they did

715
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: won if they have hadmar Ronaldo and Messi the fame

716
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: because they the same, Messi and Ronaldo basically do the same,

717
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: they're not gonna win.

718
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 5: You gotta have, you gotta have, you gotta balance it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

719
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 5: and that's that's what they have. A ballot team. Yeah,

720
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: back back to front. Anyway, I didn't mean to bring

721
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 5: sock up my bad, but anyway, you see.

722
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: The Knicks fan the Knicks fans already jinks they had

723
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Game seven hats made. Y'all see that? Can you We

724
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: got that up on the screen. Let me get one

725
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: of them. I put another seven on it, Game seventy seven.

726
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to do that. Come on, Knicks, that's crazy

727
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: not to name y'all.

728
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: Guess what it will be some third world country they

729
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: get some nice Game seven hats. They'll get all the

730
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: paraphernesia that was supposed to be for the Knicks, just

731
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: like they got what was supposed to be for the

732
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: Chiefs had they won. That goes to third world countries.

733
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna get some nice War World theories. The Yankees

734
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: World Series gear from last year.

735
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Hey, it ain't even gotta go to no third world country.

736
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Just give me a couple of hats over here. I

737
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: stay in the country. Let me get a colored you

738
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: the Game seventh hat everywhere, the Game seven half with

739
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: the outfit. They gonna be like, when you this code

740
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the game center, We're like, man, I don't remember. I

741
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: just got the head three.

742
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah that was the last game seventy seventy three. Yeah, exactly.

743
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: Oh man, Man, Spike probably sick, he's so tired. He

744
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: Fela make a movie Steve A my dog stephen A.

745
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: I know he's throwing up right now.

746
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: Heroadline, I Finela go away now.

747
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 8: Hey, you know, honestly, there's really nothing to feel that

748
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 8: bad about when you get that close for Joe oh yo, okay,

749
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 8: because you know idea, Hey, when you at least we

750
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 8: got there, that don't work no more, right, right right, listen,

751
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 8: they'll be back next year. They're not gonna make it

752
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 8: this far because the Heat is gonna be the Heat.

753
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: But you know he's gonna be a whole new team. No, no, no,

754
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: and plus do I ain't heard the news yet. What's

755
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: the news? Each of my going to the Heat? And

756
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: John morn.

757
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah yeah, I got a way to after the

758
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: playoffs anyway, So bingo, bingo.

759
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: I listened.

760
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 5: I sat down with Mickey Harrison and Pat Radley and Sposure,

761
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 5: so all of them coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be.

762
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 5: I can't say nothing. But as for the teams in

763
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 5: the works to get this thing, happened.

764
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: In the meantime in between times. We got the Big

765
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: Three basketball this So I'm playing in the Big Three

766
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: this year. So on your team on.

767
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, oh you with Jeff T's on your team, right,

768
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: Jeff T, Jordan Crawford, Wesley Johnson, Elizah Stewart, Yes, sir,

769
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: I like that.

770
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: I like that.

771
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna be shooting four pointerers. Really, I'm gonna

772
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: be I'm trying to win. I'm trying to win, man,

773
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: I'm trying to win.

774
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: What you got to get one full pointer. I mean, hey,

775
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: just tell them for every fifth rebound, I'm shooting the

776
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: four poinner.

777
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: I like that.

778
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: I like that, But I'm trying to win. I ain't

779
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: trying to play around. And yeah, I'm trying to go

780
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: ahead and win this big three. Y'all see the start

781
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: June fourteen, Oh y'all run, yeah.

782
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, many, Oh Joe, you see them tickets? They wanted

783
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: half a million dollars for court side tickets for game seven.

784
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: Yeh wait.

785
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: They weren't even at the garden though, I mean, yeah,

786
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 5: gonna be were gonna be back at the garden.

787
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh you're saying, oh, if they came back to game seven? Okay,

788
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: hold hold, hold on, I ain't here that half a million.

789
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Two tickets were half a million. Quarter each ticket was

790
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand a piece.

791
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Now, who who? Who could afford that? A lot of

792
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: people in New York?

793
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: Boy, climb out time time, Let's listen. I know we

794
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: all got money, right, let let's let's just come back down.

795
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: I got that kind of money, Okay, playing for five

796
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: or a fo dollars, I'm playing. I'm getting to Jersey.

797
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm getting shrieking.

798
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: The game but he just said, how mean. He said,

799
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: this is.

800
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: People who can afford those tickets, and we just said, yeah,

801
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 4: some people in New York that can afford the tickets.

802
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there weal Weald.

803
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: Listen, who in the hell in this world, in this economy,

804
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 5: right right, right now, right listen to me, now, stay

805
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: with me, can afford five hundred grand to throw away

806
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: five and the grid?

807
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: Not throw away?

808
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 5: You have to actually love the game of basketball to

809
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 5: pay twenty fifty thousand dollars ticket for a twelve basketball game,

810
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: and then you lose or you win.

811
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Either way it goes. You have to hope you win

812
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: game seven and five. Find go down.

813
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: He but look here, New York City has more billionaires

814
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: and millionaires than any other city in the world.

815
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of mofos that could afford

816
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. Hold on, hold on, huh. New York

817
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: has the most billionaires and millionaires. Yep.

818
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 5: The funny thing about it is the people that had

819
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 5: that kind of wealth, that kind of wealth to say, oh,

820
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 5: here's five and a grand, and it ain't the ones

821
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 5: who are the millionaires, No, they're the billionaires being go.

822
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but what what was the game for

823
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: them them tickets in Game five was like seventy thousand

824
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: a ticket for courts at the guard.

825
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: Yes, seventy thousand a piece.

826
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but that's the closer you get this, and

827
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: the and the closer you get the center court, the

828
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: more expensive they are.

829
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 10: Hey, center court right here? You see the TV back

830
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 10: down right, that's center court. You know, I'm not gonna

831
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 10: spend that much money on no basketball game. Think about

832
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 10: what the think about what people pay for the sweets

833
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 10: at the super Bowl. They paying a million, two billion.

834
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: Dollars for a sweet you got. This is different though,

835
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: the super Bowl is your team. What happened? You paid

836
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: two million dollars? Your team lost? But hey, this is

837
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: this is the whole point.

838
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 5: The people in the super Bowl aren't even the real fans. Yeah,

839
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: it's a big event, that's a celebrity event. Responsors. They

840
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 5: bring in all the famous and rich people they can

841
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 5: afford that. Those are couple of sweet what bill you there?

842
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: You know a Knicks fan. He ain't got no nigga

843
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: gear on. They just doing that just because they got money.

844
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: Say hey, because a lot of time you go to

845
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: an event like that.

846
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: I was there. It's like you when you paid that

847
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: money to see Jordan hit that shot in Utah, you

848
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: never know or I was there with something when Bad

849
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: Bonds broke the record. You play all that money A

850
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: lot of times, you paid for the opportunity to say

851
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: that I was there. I was there, that's it. Yeah. Yeah,

852
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: uh creating creating memories, creating memories. I can create memories

853
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: without spending that kind of money.

854
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, half of me, I mean half a million dollars.

855
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: Like I said, for half of me, they canna put

856
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: me in the game. Somebody, some team is gonna.

857
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: Put me in the game. I'm going in the game myself.

858
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: If I spend that much, I'm just walking the course.

859
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Give me.

860
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 5: If there's a game seven on. Yeah, And you know

861
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: I would never spend that kind of money. But if

862
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: I just did for for whatever reason, and I would

863
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: have to create content and I would become part of

864
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 5: history because I'm gonna streak the court. I'm gonna street

865
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: the court. I'm gonna run out there, flap the back. Yes,

866
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: what then you ain't gonna be able to see the

867
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 5: whole game. The game I just said, I'm gonna spend

868
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 5: that kind of money. I'm gonna be a part of history.

869
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 5: That's the whole that, that's the whole point. On camera,

870
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 5: they get your on camera, Bill, they get your camera.

871
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 5: I mean you spend that kind of money, you court side.

872
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 5: I mean look, and then they make sure the camera,

873
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: they make sure the cameras get you. I mean look,

874
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: I saw Cali Jenner and and shall the uh challa

875
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 5: may uh. I saw Kaitlyn Clark and Boston, I saw

876
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: Mike Epps anybody. I mean look, first of all, it

877
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 5: ain't like any I mean, they got John Cougar, Mellen Camp,

878
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 5: they got Mike Camps, and they got Kaitlyn Clark.

879
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: That's about it. Man, Peyton live in Denver. I like,

880
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: it ain't like New York. It's not like l A.

881
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: In l A NBA Finals, you're gonna see the who's who.

882
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: They're all coming out. Yeah, from Denzel to I'm talking

883
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: about who big, big, big, big, big dogs. Oh they're finish.

884
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 2: Come out of Indiana.

885
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: Now it's.

886
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: Indiana, man, come on, it's up man, everybody's coming out.

887
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question.

888
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: What stars you see in the Western Conference Finals that

889
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: was at A that was at a OKC.

890
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: Nobody exactly exactly. No, I'll say the same Chris Tu

891
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: same thing with Minnesota. Who they got. I mean, unless

892
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring out Jenna, you're gonna bring got Jenna. Yeah.

893
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: I mean the market is New York and it's l A.

894
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: It is what it is. You know, it is what

895
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: it is. You're right, that is true.

896
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: Now Atlanta, Now you're gonna see a now Atlanta, you know,

897
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: and they're gonna have from boozing the baby to a

898
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: uh d C. I mean, everybody that somebody pusher gonna

899
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: be at the gate. But other places just don't have them.

900
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: This doesn't have they don't have it like that in

901
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: the other look. And that's not a knock, but I

902
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: mean there's not a whole lot of celebs that lives

903
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: in the Midwest.

904
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: They just don't.

905
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 5: And you know the l A that when when you

906
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: think about l A is different. We talk about the elites. Yes,

907
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 5: about the A list. Yeah, you will see whole.

908
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would see whole and Beyonce at a Knicks

909
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: or the NBA if it was in l A. You

910
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: see them. You would see that level of celebrity. You'll

911
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: see a problem a Drake something you you see like that.

912
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: But man, I ain't going no, I ain't going no

913
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: in the no. Okay, see y'all, I like it. I

914
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: like both Indian Okay, I'm going to India to just

915
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: to go to care country kitchen. I'm gonna get the

916
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: fried catf you know, count your kitchen, man, I know fifty.

917
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: I go down all the time. I got my pitch

918
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: on the wall. They don't. They don't do me in.

919
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a regular. I pitch you up there

920
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: a country kitchen too. Now I know I'm a regular

921
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: cuntry kitchen. They already know what I'm gonna get. I'm

922
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: gonna get get some of everything.

923
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 5: That ain't been that in a minute man, man, yeah,

924
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 5: every time. There's not been one time I've been to

925
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 5: Indy that I haven't gone by. You been to Saint Elmos,

926
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 5: I have yeah. Yeah that that horse, Radish, that thing

927
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 5: caught me. I don't like that horse right.

928
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: Put my yeah over. Yeah, I'm good with that.

929
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: The Minnesota Timberwolves are reportedly looking the trade for an

930
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 2: alpha and are expected to pursue Kevin de rad per.

931
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: Amiko Hoops. The Timberwolves need another alpha.

932
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: Next to Edwards to win it all, which is why

933
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: my Why sources told Hoops why that Minnesota is expected

934
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: to pursue the red and the trade again this obfseason.

935
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: They try to get him at the trade deadline, but

936
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: KD made it a budtly clear he doesn't want to leave.

937
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot that comes along here and

938
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: let's hey, let's get a trading cap. Uh, it's what

939
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: you think, Dwhite, Do they do they have the pieces

940
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: in order to pull it off.

941
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. Consider what they gave up to get

942
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: go Bear. I don't know if they got the pieces.

943
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: I mean what I mean, all you got is Jade

944
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: McDaniels and Julius Redderd is a free agent man, Yes, Ben, dude,

945
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: that's tough. I'm just trying to think Walker. I think

946
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: he's a free agent. So I'm just trying to see

947
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: the thing is all that sounds good in theory. Now

948
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: we're looking at it Dwhight, No, Joe, we're looking at

949
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: it like team the team. Now, if we get to

950
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: three four teams involved, now, maybe somebody can swing something.

951
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not in the business of helping you get

952
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm not in the business helping.

953
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at I think that'll really ilp development

954
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: by having KD. I think they just need some more shooting.

955
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know KD will be thirty seven at the

956
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: start of the season.

957
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: People ain't giving up a whole lot of guy for

958
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: a guy that's thirty seven, that has an injury history.

959
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: KD is phenomenal. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer.

960
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: He's the greatest Men's Olympic basketball player. He's an MVP,

961
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: he is a Finals MVP. No one is questioning his

962
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: his resume. The fact of the matter is he's about

963
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: to be thirty seven, and he has an injury history

964
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: that is not conjectured, that's not in you in though,

965
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: that's not speculations.

966
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Out of those are facts. You know what, Even with

967
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: the injury history, based on who it is, I think

968
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: they would overlook it. Same reason.

969
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 5: A small example of Dwight and look at the Steelers. Hell,

970
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has the injury history, but look at his resume,

971
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 5: look at exactly.

972
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: But I ain't got to give up. All I gotta

973
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: do is pay a salary. I ain't got to give

974
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: up nothing to get it. It'd be a whole different

975
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: thing if I got to give up three first rounders

976
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: in a second round and the third Okay, okay, all right,

977
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: And so that's the thing. And see you look at

978
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: think about it. Look at what what when Minnesota gave

979
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: up to get Rudy Gobert. Look at what the Knicks

980
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: gave up to get Michail Bridges.

981
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: Right, and people automatically think, but Kevin, because of Kadi's

982
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 5: age and his injury history.

983
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Michail Bridges had mister gave it what five

984
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: six years?

985
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: True, I was shocked that Minnesota gave up what they

986
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: gave up to get because he's a one end player.

987
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: You don't play the defensive band, and you can't play

988
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: him in the fourth quarter unless you play in the Lakers,

989
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: and the Lakers don't have a big so you can

990
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: leave your dans out there the wrong. But other than that,

991
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: you go back and study. Go back and look at

992
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert when he was in Utah. Go back and

993
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: look at Rudy Gobert, not proud of this year, look

994
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: at him in the fourth quarter here on the bitch.

995
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up five first round of for a

996
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: guy that I can't play the entirety of the game.

997
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: Right, that's true, But I mean, but then you gotta

998
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: think too, like, the reason why they're keeping him is

999
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: because he got those four defensive players player of the

1000
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: Year awards, So doing the regular damn the.

1001
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: White I can't play him in the fourth quarter when

1002
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: I need a defensive player that year on the court.

1003
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: You're right, but I'm just thinking how the team is

1004
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: going to look at it, like, man, I'm producing the

1005
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: best defensive player that we've seen in history as far

1006
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 3: as awards go and stuff like that. And you we

1007
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: can say people can say that as people who watch

1008
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: and play, but let's just look at he has that

1009
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: award four times the impact that he's having on the floor, regardless,

1010
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: eighty should have got it this year, last year, but

1011
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: last year, man, but Broudie's impact might not show up

1012
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 3: on Wimby.

1013
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: On Wemby, I did and played fortyping games.

1014
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: That's why I had picked who should have won it

1015
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: last year. I think, Okay, I won't fight you. Then

1016
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: that's why I happy. I just think that his presence

1017
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: is why they keep keep him around. He's seven to

1018
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: I mean, just think about him seven two. You can't

1019
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: teach hype, you can't teach the size.

1020
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: He can get up teaching was still on the court

1021
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Tell me how I teach that.

1022
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: And he's the liability on defense in the fourth.

1023
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: And he's not an on ball defender. He's a help defender.

1024
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not giving him a picked for

1025
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: no help defender. He's a help defender. He's not an

1026
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: on ball defender. He doesn't do what and they put

1027
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: him after the pick and roll. He can't move side

1028
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: to side. Guys get him going side to side to

1029
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: get him going downhill. He's not like what you and

1030
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: Ben Wallace. When I think of guy Draymond. When I

1031
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: look at guys that not only can they help, but

1032
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: they can defend on the ball, that's not what Rudy is.

1033
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: I think he's gotten better though, if you go back

1034
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 4: and look at a couple of years ago to when

1035
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 4: he played Luca this year in the playoffs, he was

1036
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: able to play him one on one a little bit better.

1037
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: They allowed him to actually play one on one defense.

1038
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: So I have been somebody who's always been saying, like, man,

1039
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: it's crazy Rudy kid. You know, I don't see like

1040
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: his defensive like passion, but I could see that he's

1041
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: gotten better over the years with his defensive presence. It's

1042
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: just not I don't think it's an. I don't think

1043
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: it's him. You know what I'm saying. Like he got

1044
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 3: to get on the offensive end. He gotta get, Yes,

1045
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: he gotta get something going like at he.

1046
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: Don't get I mean ten points. Look, I get it.

1047
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: If he was giving me, let's just say, for the

1048
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: sake of right M. Dwight, he was giving me fifteen.

1049
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: He was giving me fifteen and thirteen, yes, windows two

1050
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: and a half, three block shots a game.

1051
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: You get you good? Got me pick and roll sealed

1052
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: the smaller than the paint throve up and junking.

1053
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: He don't even have to look at the rib. He

1054
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 4: go up and dunk it back. And I'm that serious,

1055
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: Like he's bro I'm.

1056
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: Six eleven, sixteen, six eleven.

1057
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: So every time I wanted to dunk, I tried to

1058
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: jump my highest, my heartest, so I could clear the

1059
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: rim and dunk hard.

1060
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: He said it too, He ain't gotta jump that high.

1061
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 4: All he gotta do is be close to the rib.

1062
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: So he get this pick and roll. Actually he goes

1063
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: seal the big He gotta be another option in the offense.

1064
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: That's that's The one thing that I think is messing

1065
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: up Minnesota is he's not an option on the office

1066
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: and then so he becomes a liability.

1067
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: And I think later on in my career that's what

1068
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: it was with me.

1069
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: And I was great for the defensive side, but I

1070
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: think a lot of times offensively, teams wanted to space

1071
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: the floor.

1072
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: And I was not a space of floor space.

1073
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: And he had this He had his large points since

1074
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen sixteen. How many he averaged twelve points a game.

1075
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: That's the lords. He averaged ses twenty fifteen sixteen. That's

1076
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: the second. He had the second fewest rebounds since twenty

1077
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen. So what we talked again, what we talk

1078
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: about back the white I mean, I think about he's

1079
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: not he's not the on ball defender, and his points

1080
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: and rebound are coming down.

1081
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: Another just said like this, when you get on that

1082
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 3: island with these boys and these young men in the NBA,

1083
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 3: it's hard man.

1084
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: And you get deep.

1085
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: What big man been dunk no more than then Rudy.

1086
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: Uh no, exactly exactly, But you know everybody got opposed

1087
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: to with Rudy trying. At least he tried, and.

1088
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: He gonna he's gonna challenge everybody.

1089
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't play, Hey, Dwight, I don't play forty I

1090
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: don't pay forty million for effort.

1091
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: I pay forty million for results. But guess how he

1092
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 4: could back it up. He got full defensive He got it.

1093
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: We can't ask your question if we were if we

1094
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: were to take a vote and we asked, if we

1095
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: asked the players or we asked writers. Who's gonna say

1096
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert is the best defensive player and then be

1097
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: a history even though he and uh uh big Ben

1098
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: got the most defensive player. Who's gonna say Rudy is

1099
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: the best. But is he a better Is he a

1100
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: better defensive player than a cheam oldjah won? It's a

1101
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 2: simple yes or no.

1102
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: No, No.

1103
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: I didn't think, okay, but I mean playing, Dwight said,

1104
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: But I'm just thinking. I'm just thinking both ways. Like

1105
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: all right, So the uh Rudy is a team defender,

1106
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: health defense. A keeam could play all positions, play defense

1107
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 3: against every ball. Yeah, but the rules is different back then,

1108
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: the court this was is extended now then it was then,

1109
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: it was then it was back in the day.

1110
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of looking at it from both sides.

1111
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: Like I want to give Rudy some credit because he

1112
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: got four Defensive Player of the Year awards. Like, regardless

1113
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: of how we want to put it, slice it, you

1114
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: still got foe of me. They can't take the YouTube

1115
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: awards you got in all the awards. You got everything

1116
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: you got back there. You earned it right, no matter

1117
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: what anybody say, you did it. That's what I'm saying

1118
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: about Rudy.

1119
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: I can't. I only got three.

1120
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: He got fold so you got him all back to

1121
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: back to white. They got tired of gave them to you,

1122
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: that Dwight. They got tired of gimme to you, and

1123
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: they ain't get tired of giving it to him. Be

1124
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: French talking another language. I should have learned to know

1125
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: the ladies bounce in the league.

1126
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: Man, I would have got another war man. They got,

1127
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: they got they got. But but you you're right.

1128
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: But can you imagine with Elijah one with is, with is,

1129
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: with his with his foot, with his footwork, if he

1130
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: had to play, how many points he would average because.

1131
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Everybody had BIG's back then everybody.

1132
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: And you had two of them, yeah four, So you

1133
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: going he going to get David Robinson, Patrick ewing Rick

1134
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: Smitch uh, Mark Eaton, I mean Robert Patsh but I

1135
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: mean everybody had I mean it was true. It was

1136
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: the big and everybody played inside out, not everybody played

1137
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: outside in.

1138
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: And it's so far out that like, if you a

1139
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: traditional big like Rudy, it exposes the type of big

1140
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: you are.

1141
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: He's he's a traditional type of big. So he started

1142
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: he'd have been better in the eighties and nineties, and

1143
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: he started thinking about it.

1144
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: He started playing in my era. So he's used to

1145
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 3: the big. He ain't spending the four and fives. It's

1146
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: six ten, six eleven and everybody's in the paint. He's

1147
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: used to being able to tag and get back to

1148
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: a big that's rolling. Now it's pick and roll, it's

1149
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: picking pop. So he trying to get back into a pick.

1150
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: They throw it out into his man. He's spotting up

1151
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 3: four three. That's tough for him. So yeah, yeah, that's

1152
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: pretty tough for him. But yeah, I just say he

1153
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: got four. He got fullard.

1154
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: He trying, he trying.

1155
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 4: He books and during the summer he's trying to get

1156
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: his foot work right. I just think his shoes too big.

1157
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 4: He wears size twenty four wear look like the wearing

1158
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: size twenty four. His shoes be so tight, shoe streams

1159
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 4: tight all that's why he can't.

1160
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: Hey, and plus he got a knee breaks on. So sorry,

1161
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, we just say that word. But the

1162
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: big old knee breaks they be in the way. He

1163
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: can't even move. Yeah, you can't move, they gonna pop.

1164
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: He look like a lie it out there with the

1165
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: neat braces, old trip.

1166
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: Dwight le basket this Janni's had. Uh do you think

1167
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: you're picking up? I'm picking you. You got Dwight Howard,

1168
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: you're the starting center, and you get KD or you

1169
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: get Yannis.

1170
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: You can't have them both, you get one or the other.

1171
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: In yes, ooh, that's so tough. That's a good one.

1172
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

1173
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: But I'm going k D k D inside out attack scores.

1174
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get guys that foul

1175
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: to early and running the flow, get in the pants.

1176
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: Easy bucket and then you gonna dump it down to

1177
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: you and you're gonna dunk on them.

1178
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm doing that, but I'm getting easy buckets, easy files early,

1179
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: So now you can't foul KD so you can get

1180
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: to any shot you want to get to. Now in

1181
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, we're picking out poison. We get to

1182
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: a drop. He played a three drop thirty five and

1183
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: he catch it in the mid poast. I'm a cup,

1184
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: send him a screen. He come off that he got

1185
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: his jump shot to the rear while he got me

1186
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: on the lob. It's over with three shooters in the corner.

1187
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: Do you want to ask your question?

1188
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: What if you had played with Luca and you know

1189
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: Luca loved the lib threat.

1190
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god. Crazy. It's probably like

1191
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd.

1192
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: Yes, when I was playing in the Lives Jason Kidd,

1193
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 3: big ty point guard, can see over everybody.

1194
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: Would have been crazy. It would have been crazy.

1195
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: The volume