1 00:00:10,362 --> 00:00:13,042 Speaker 1: This is an iHeart original. 2 00:00:29,642 --> 00:00:32,042 Speaker 2: Welcome back to very special episodes, and this is a 3 00:00:32,282 --> 00:00:35,282 Speaker 2: very special, very special episodes because we're going to do 4 00:00:35,322 --> 00:00:37,722 Speaker 2: our first mail bag issue. We put out a call 5 00:00:37,802 --> 00:00:41,602 Speaker 2: for reader emails and you guys really came through, which 6 00:00:41,682 --> 00:00:44,762 Speaker 2: was very Not only just to get any emails is great, 7 00:00:44,762 --> 00:00:47,882 Speaker 2: but to get good questions that will hopefully make for 8 00:00:47,962 --> 00:00:51,802 Speaker 2: a good episode. I'm joined as always with Danish Swartz 9 00:00:52,002 --> 00:00:55,322 Speaker 2: and Zaren Burnette. Hey, yo, I'm going to start here. 10 00:00:55,882 --> 00:00:56,442 Speaker 3: Hi all. 11 00:00:57,082 --> 00:00:59,682 Speaker 2: This is from Katie. By the way, Josh, I don't 12 00:00:59,682 --> 00:01:02,842 Speaker 2: think this is your wife, Katie. It's not my daughter, Katie. 13 00:01:03,042 --> 00:01:06,762 Speaker 2: I think actual listener. Hi all, curious as to how 14 00:01:06,922 --> 00:01:10,122 Speaker 2: each of you got connected to very special episodes. Who 15 00:01:10,202 --> 00:01:14,042 Speaker 2: conceived of the idea of this my current favorite podcast 16 00:01:14,162 --> 00:01:18,042 Speaker 2: and flattery gets you everywhere in the mailbag segment. So 17 00:01:18,242 --> 00:01:19,722 Speaker 2: we'll take Katie's question first. 18 00:01:20,042 --> 00:01:21,682 Speaker 1: Jason, I feel like you should kind of take the 19 00:01:21,762 --> 00:01:22,682 Speaker 1: lead on this one. 20 00:01:22,962 --> 00:01:24,682 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you were the mastermind. 21 00:01:25,082 --> 00:01:28,322 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you how this all came together. When 22 00:01:29,162 --> 00:01:32,082 Speaker 2: I started here in twenty twenty, we were making a 23 00:01:32,082 --> 00:01:35,122 Speaker 2: lot of limited series, which are great, and that's how 24 00:01:35,202 --> 00:01:37,882 Speaker 2: we both started working in podcasting. With both of you 25 00:01:38,122 --> 00:01:44,922 Speaker 2: doing Black Cowboys and Haleywood and Stealing Superman, and the 26 00:01:44,962 --> 00:01:49,122 Speaker 2: appetite for those series got a little bit less in 27 00:01:49,162 --> 00:01:52,082 Speaker 2: the years, but we had so many good ideas, and 28 00:01:52,282 --> 00:01:54,802 Speaker 2: our head of development here, a woman named Nikki Atore, 29 00:01:55,762 --> 00:01:57,922 Speaker 2: came to me at one point and said, well, could 30 00:01:58,042 --> 00:02:01,242 Speaker 2: you do one story per episode and just keep the 31 00:02:01,282 --> 00:02:03,922 Speaker 2: show on all the time. I thought, well, we had 32 00:02:03,962 --> 00:02:07,402 Speaker 2: note cards of ideas that we wanted to do. Maybe 33 00:02:07,402 --> 00:02:08,802 Speaker 2: we're not ever going to get to do the eight 34 00:02:08,842 --> 00:02:11,922 Speaker 2: episode version, but I'd love to still tell these stories. 35 00:02:11,962 --> 00:02:15,562 Speaker 2: And so I reached out to both of you, thinking, like, 36 00:02:16,522 --> 00:02:18,482 Speaker 2: no one cares about this podcast if it's just me 37 00:02:18,722 --> 00:02:21,842 Speaker 2: on here telling these stories. I need some proven commodities 38 00:02:21,922 --> 00:02:25,602 Speaker 2: in the podcast space, and thankfully each of you have 39 00:02:25,802 --> 00:02:26,682 Speaker 2: agreed to do this. 40 00:02:26,802 --> 00:02:29,762 Speaker 1: Jason, we sort of have an interesting origin story, which 41 00:02:29,802 --> 00:02:32,602 Speaker 1: is when I was a senior in college, I was 42 00:02:32,682 --> 00:02:36,082 Speaker 1: like really desperately trying to make money as a writer 43 00:02:36,162 --> 00:02:37,762 Speaker 1: and try to figure out whether I could be a 44 00:02:37,762 --> 00:02:40,642 Speaker 1: writer as a career. And I wrote to Mental Floss 45 00:02:41,042 --> 00:02:43,442 Speaker 1: with a few pitches of articles that I wanted to 46 00:02:43,442 --> 00:02:47,162 Speaker 1: write as like a freelance writer, and you mercifully I 47 00:02:47,162 --> 00:02:48,922 Speaker 1: think pulled me out of a slush pile, let me 48 00:02:48,962 --> 00:02:52,322 Speaker 1: write to Mental Floss articles that after I graduated, I 49 00:02:52,362 --> 00:02:55,962 Speaker 1: moved to New York and kept writing for Mental Floss, 50 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:59,282 Speaker 1: and then our paths diverged and it was years later 51 00:02:59,362 --> 00:03:02,042 Speaker 1: that we reconnected in the podcast world. You've been my 52 00:03:02,162 --> 00:03:04,362 Speaker 1: guardian angel multiple times in my career. 53 00:03:04,642 --> 00:03:05,642 Speaker 3: I love that story. 54 00:03:05,802 --> 00:03:09,442 Speaker 2: To describe your pitches as like one of many in 55 00:03:09,482 --> 00:03:12,882 Speaker 2: a pile. This is like you ever see those sports 56 00:03:12,922 --> 00:03:18,562 Speaker 2: movies where I scout see somebody just so outperforming their 57 00:03:18,682 --> 00:03:21,762 Speaker 2: peers and like, Woho's that person? That was my reaction 58 00:03:21,922 --> 00:03:26,842 Speaker 2: to reading your pages of pitches and just nodding like, yeah, yes, 59 00:03:27,682 --> 00:03:29,562 Speaker 2: how have we not done that before? We got to 60 00:03:29,602 --> 00:03:33,002 Speaker 2: do all these and so I have not been surprised 61 00:03:33,002 --> 00:03:36,482 Speaker 2: to watch your career blow up from your early days 62 00:03:36,962 --> 00:03:38,562 Speaker 2: Brown and Mental Floss. 63 00:03:38,802 --> 00:03:41,042 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Jason, and it's been such a pleasure 64 00:03:41,042 --> 00:03:43,042 Speaker 3: of working with you Data. I mean, I didn't know 65 00:03:43,082 --> 00:03:44,762 Speaker 3: you before this show, but I'm so glad that I 66 00:03:44,802 --> 00:03:46,842 Speaker 3: know you now, because you are quite a talent. I 67 00:03:46,842 --> 00:03:47,922 Speaker 3: gotta agree with Jason on that. 68 00:03:48,322 --> 00:03:50,442 Speaker 1: Zara and I feel the same way. I'm honestly so 69 00:03:50,522 --> 00:03:53,082 Speaker 1: grateful to very special episodes for connecting me with you 70 00:03:53,202 --> 00:03:56,482 Speaker 1: this amazing group and getting able to like learn genuinely. 71 00:03:56,562 --> 00:03:59,082 Speaker 1: I love every time I record an episode because I 72 00:03:59,122 --> 00:04:01,482 Speaker 1: get to learn something that I didn't know about. 73 00:04:01,642 --> 00:04:04,522 Speaker 3: Same same It's such a fun experience of both learning 74 00:04:04,522 --> 00:04:06,442 Speaker 3: and then also the curiosity gets paid off because the 75 00:04:06,442 --> 00:04:08,682 Speaker 3: stories are so fun, but they're also emotionally compelling. 76 00:04:08,722 --> 00:04:11,922 Speaker 2: It's been a blast, and zaren a similar experience with 77 00:04:12,042 --> 00:04:15,322 Speaker 2: you where we did not know each other. I had 78 00:04:15,402 --> 00:04:20,122 Speaker 2: a friend who really understands the digital media and what's important, 79 00:04:20,242 --> 00:04:23,122 Speaker 2: and I'll meet with her about once a year, and 80 00:04:23,322 --> 00:04:26,282 Speaker 2: there was a time, maybe twenty nineteen, she said, watch 81 00:04:26,282 --> 00:04:29,602 Speaker 2: what MEL magazine is doing. They're doing more interesting stuff 82 00:04:29,642 --> 00:04:33,442 Speaker 2: than anyone else. They're taking chances, they're writing stories nobody else. 83 00:04:33,922 --> 00:04:37,282 Speaker 2: And so I started reading Mel, and I started gravitating 84 00:04:37,322 --> 00:04:40,082 Speaker 2: to anything with your byline and just thought like, how's 85 00:04:40,122 --> 00:04:42,962 Speaker 2: he coming up with this stuff? And then very well written, 86 00:04:43,282 --> 00:04:44,962 Speaker 2: deeply reported stuff. 87 00:04:45,042 --> 00:04:45,682 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. 88 00:04:45,962 --> 00:04:48,602 Speaker 2: And so when I got here and was tasked with 89 00:04:49,282 --> 00:04:51,922 Speaker 2: let's go make some new shows, I kind of in 90 00:04:51,962 --> 00:04:56,242 Speaker 2: a panic sent you a blind direct message asking if 91 00:04:56,322 --> 00:04:59,842 Speaker 2: you'd ever thought about doing a podcast, and thankfully you 92 00:05:00,042 --> 00:05:03,802 Speaker 2: also responded to my plea and here we are years later. 93 00:05:04,122 --> 00:05:05,802 Speaker 3: Oh it was a great I remember we helped on 94 00:05:05,802 --> 00:05:07,402 Speaker 3: the phone call and I was like, this guy, that's dope. 95 00:05:07,482 --> 00:05:09,162 Speaker 3: This should be fun. Because I was a little hesitant 96 00:05:09,162 --> 00:05:10,722 Speaker 3: because I was like, you know, deep into journalism and 97 00:05:10,762 --> 00:05:14,162 Speaker 3: I didn't really know much about podcasting. But I loved radio, 98 00:05:14,242 --> 00:05:16,002 Speaker 3: and I was like, Okay, well it's basically the same 99 00:05:16,002 --> 00:05:17,482 Speaker 3: as radio, so let me just think that if I 100 00:05:17,522 --> 00:05:19,842 Speaker 3: can pull this off. But you gave me the confidence 101 00:05:19,842 --> 00:05:21,362 Speaker 3: that it would be fun, so I was like, all right, 102 00:05:21,442 --> 00:05:23,122 Speaker 3: let's try this a new adventure. All right. 103 00:05:23,242 --> 00:05:26,922 Speaker 2: Let's move on to a question from Carter, and again 104 00:05:27,082 --> 00:05:29,682 Speaker 2: the flattery's right to the top of the podcast. I 105 00:05:29,722 --> 00:05:33,162 Speaker 2: love your podcast. Your stories are interesting, well written, and 106 00:05:33,242 --> 00:05:34,562 Speaker 2: Dana is easy to listen to. 107 00:05:35,042 --> 00:05:35,802 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. 108 00:05:36,082 --> 00:05:39,242 Speaker 2: After hearing all of your very special episodes. My favorite 109 00:05:39,362 --> 00:05:42,282 Speaker 2: is the Arctic Balloon, so that's a recent one. I'm 110 00:05:42,322 --> 00:05:45,922 Speaker 2: curious to know each of your favorite episodes. Keep the 111 00:05:45,962 --> 00:05:48,882 Speaker 2: stories coming. Anyone to have a favorite, I. 112 00:05:48,802 --> 00:05:52,842 Speaker 1: Think I do. I like Westward Hoax, which was the 113 00:05:52,842 --> 00:05:57,442 Speaker 1: one about Palisade, Nevada, about whether this town was faking 114 00:05:57,522 --> 00:06:00,122 Speaker 1: Wild West fights for tourists. I think because it's sort 115 00:06:00,162 --> 00:06:03,482 Speaker 1: of a double hoax. It's possible that these writers were 116 00:06:03,522 --> 00:06:07,282 Speaker 1: just inventing this sort of interesting story to dazzle I 117 00:06:07,322 --> 00:06:10,402 Speaker 1: don't know newspaper readers. There's a Mark Twain cameo. That's 118 00:06:10,442 --> 00:06:13,162 Speaker 1: my favorite episode. I think I just love a hoax. Obviously. 119 00:06:13,242 --> 00:06:17,522 Speaker 1: I have another podcast with iHeartRadio called Hoax exclamation Point. 120 00:06:17,802 --> 00:06:20,242 Speaker 1: We actually did do a very deep, deep dive into 121 00:06:20,562 --> 00:06:23,842 Speaker 1: Palisade and the Mark Twain several other Mark Twain hoaxes. 122 00:06:24,282 --> 00:06:25,202 Speaker 1: I love a good hoax. 123 00:06:25,562 --> 00:06:27,362 Speaker 3: That was such a good episode. Actually, I had that 124 00:06:27,402 --> 00:06:29,482 Speaker 3: on my short list of favorite episodes. So I'm gonna 125 00:06:29,482 --> 00:06:31,682 Speaker 3: go with one of my other choices, which is the 126 00:06:31,682 --> 00:06:35,002 Speaker 3: attempted Sinking of the Titanic. It was our first episode, 127 00:06:35,042 --> 00:06:37,242 Speaker 3: and the story is the last day of filming Nova Scotia. 128 00:06:37,322 --> 00:06:39,082 Speaker 3: They had the whole cast and crew there and then 129 00:06:39,122 --> 00:06:41,842 Speaker 3: they get dosed with PCP and then the whole set 130 00:06:42,042 --> 00:06:44,122 Speaker 3: just goes wild, or basically everybody who was on the 131 00:06:44,162 --> 00:06:46,722 Speaker 3: set goes wild. And it's a mystery. You know, you 132 00:06:46,722 --> 00:06:49,002 Speaker 3: get this like who did it? Who would want to 133 00:06:49,122 --> 00:06:52,242 Speaker 3: even like dose everybody with PCP? And then the imagery 134 00:06:52,242 --> 00:06:55,562 Speaker 3: of like the wheelchair race to the Hospital, the James 135 00:06:55,562 --> 00:06:57,922 Speaker 3: Cameron to Bill Paxton grabbing beer just like you know, 136 00:06:57,962 --> 00:06:59,722 Speaker 3: like we're just gonna drink our way through this. I 137 00:06:59,842 --> 00:07:01,722 Speaker 3: just thought that one was a really fun one. What 138 00:07:01,762 --> 00:07:05,082 Speaker 3: about you, Jason Classic. Yeah, this is hard. 139 00:07:05,162 --> 00:07:08,482 Speaker 2: This is like picking a favor child, which I will 140 00:07:08,522 --> 00:07:10,842 Speaker 2: do if that question comes up in the mailbag. I'm 141 00:07:10,882 --> 00:07:14,962 Speaker 2: going to go with an episode from last year. We 142 00:07:15,042 --> 00:07:18,042 Speaker 2: called it Et and Me, and it's the story of 143 00:07:19,322 --> 00:07:23,242 Speaker 2: the kid actor who was inside the ET costume for 144 00:07:23,322 --> 00:07:26,882 Speaker 2: some of the stunt work, and Jake Rosson got a 145 00:07:26,882 --> 00:07:32,722 Speaker 2: great interview with him, and you get some good movie history. 146 00:07:33,242 --> 00:07:38,562 Speaker 2: You get a lot of family, interpersonal, tragedy, drama, but 147 00:07:39,162 --> 00:07:43,642 Speaker 2: also just love spending time with him and reliving his experience. 148 00:07:43,802 --> 00:07:46,922 Speaker 2: And sometimes someone new will come on and ask for 149 00:07:47,042 --> 00:07:50,002 Speaker 2: sample episodes just to kind of get up to speed. 150 00:07:50,042 --> 00:07:53,482 Speaker 2: They can't go back and listen to everything they should. 151 00:07:53,562 --> 00:07:56,922 Speaker 2: I will send them that. I will send them Andy 152 00:07:57,002 --> 00:08:01,722 Speaker 2: the sneaker wearing Goose just topic selection wise, that's a 153 00:08:01,722 --> 00:08:04,802 Speaker 2: classic we did with our friends at Wonder Media, and 154 00:08:04,922 --> 00:08:06,962 Speaker 2: really like this could be the whole podcast, just me 155 00:08:07,082 --> 00:08:09,962 Speaker 2: listening out because they're all my favorites. That's a cop out, 156 00:08:10,002 --> 00:08:10,482 Speaker 2: but oh wait. 157 00:08:10,562 --> 00:08:15,082 Speaker 1: I also want to shout out eleanor Roosevelt. Yes, Amelia Earhart. 158 00:08:15,122 --> 00:08:17,082 Speaker 1: Their flight, that's the one that I really love. 159 00:08:17,442 --> 00:08:19,562 Speaker 3: I had that also my short list. That was, oh 160 00:08:19,642 --> 00:08:22,082 Speaker 3: my god, that was the best them in their nightgown 161 00:08:22,202 --> 00:08:24,322 Speaker 3: or the evening gowns rather but going up in the 162 00:08:24,322 --> 00:08:26,162 Speaker 3: plane top of the world, unobstructive view. 163 00:08:26,202 --> 00:08:29,322 Speaker 1: I loved that one, especially because something that seems like 164 00:08:29,402 --> 00:08:32,522 Speaker 1: such a fun like tidbit and then you're like, everything 165 00:08:32,642 --> 00:08:32,882 Speaker 1: was a. 166 00:08:32,842 --> 00:08:39,682 Speaker 2: Pr move, everything's pr all right, Hi, very special people. 167 00:08:39,882 --> 00:08:42,602 Speaker 2: I started listening to the show earlier this fall, and 168 00:08:42,682 --> 00:08:45,722 Speaker 2: I'm slowly getting to the older episodes. One of my 169 00:08:45,722 --> 00:08:48,162 Speaker 2: favorite parts of the show is when Zaren casts the 170 00:08:48,202 --> 00:08:50,602 Speaker 2: movie version of the story you told me the episode 171 00:08:50,722 --> 00:08:53,522 Speaker 2: thank you. If you had to cast a movie version 172 00:08:53,842 --> 00:08:57,602 Speaker 2: of the Very Special Episodes podcast, who would play each 173 00:08:57,642 --> 00:09:00,442 Speaker 2: of you? Thanks for keeping me entertained at work? 174 00:09:00,562 --> 00:09:02,402 Speaker 1: This feels dangerous. 175 00:09:02,442 --> 00:09:05,642 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely dangerous. This is a great question from Jill. 176 00:09:05,762 --> 00:09:08,602 Speaker 3: Totally great question, and I promise I did give this 177 00:09:08,642 --> 00:09:11,602 Speaker 3: thought and really thank you again. That was a nice compliment, Joe. 178 00:09:11,882 --> 00:09:13,882 Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, let me rack my brains. 179 00:09:13,882 --> 00:09:15,842 Speaker 3: I want to have ones that both fit but also 180 00:09:15,882 --> 00:09:17,722 Speaker 3: are fun, and it's like, you guys go walk away 181 00:09:17,722 --> 00:09:21,322 Speaker 3: with going what why him? Why her? So I'll start 182 00:09:21,322 --> 00:09:23,482 Speaker 3: with you, Jason. I needed somebody who was smart and 183 00:09:23,562 --> 00:09:25,882 Speaker 3: kind and open hearted and decent. So I was like, okay, 184 00:09:26,002 --> 00:09:28,242 Speaker 3: that's kind of a heavy lift in Hollywood. But I 185 00:09:28,282 --> 00:09:32,082 Speaker 3: came up with two either Jason Sudeikis without the mustache 186 00:09:32,362 --> 00:09:34,882 Speaker 3: or Chris Pine. Both of them I thought were both 187 00:09:34,962 --> 00:09:37,802 Speaker 3: really like curious, decent, open hearted guys, and I was like, okay, 188 00:09:37,842 --> 00:09:39,642 Speaker 3: so those are my picks. Both of them obviously would 189 00:09:39,642 --> 00:09:41,322 Speaker 3: have to wear glasses, but I thought either one of 190 00:09:41,322 --> 00:09:45,002 Speaker 3: them would do the trick. I'll take it. That's good, Okay, cool. Now. 191 00:09:45,042 --> 00:09:46,762 Speaker 3: For Dana, I was like, okay, I need someone who's 192 00:09:46,762 --> 00:09:49,362 Speaker 3: smart and savvy but also has that great voice and 193 00:09:49,442 --> 00:09:51,722 Speaker 3: a good laugh. And so I came up with two. 194 00:09:52,082 --> 00:09:54,562 Speaker 3: I had Eva Green or Scarlet Johansson. 195 00:09:54,762 --> 00:09:57,682 Speaker 1: What are you kidding me? Okay, Yig, sure? How much 196 00:09:57,682 --> 00:09:59,402 Speaker 1: did I have to pay you? And I'm sure Margot 197 00:09:59,482 --> 00:10:01,922 Speaker 1: Robbie too, Natalie Partman, but thank you. 198 00:10:02,202 --> 00:10:04,082 Speaker 3: I'm glad you'd liked it. No, for me, I had 199 00:10:04,082 --> 00:10:05,722 Speaker 3: to go with someone a little bit eccentric and kind 200 00:10:05,722 --> 00:10:08,242 Speaker 3: of odd and obviously care so I really only had 201 00:10:08,282 --> 00:10:10,202 Speaker 3: one choice. Just can jump right to the top of 202 00:10:10,202 --> 00:10:13,802 Speaker 3: the list, which was Lakeith Stanfield. Yes, we did that work, okay, 203 00:10:13,882 --> 00:10:17,002 Speaker 3: So first, that's perfect the producer, Josh, I also went 204 00:10:17,042 --> 00:10:19,042 Speaker 3: and casted you because I wanted to get a shout 205 00:10:19,082 --> 00:10:21,122 Speaker 3: out for you. So I had kind of a tough 206 00:10:21,122 --> 00:10:22,482 Speaker 3: one with this one because I was like, Okay, there's 207 00:10:22,562 --> 00:10:25,282 Speaker 3: Charlie Huntum from The Gentleman, there's Travis Fimble for Vikings. 208 00:10:25,282 --> 00:10:27,002 Speaker 3: But I thought again, I was like, you know what, 209 00:10:27,082 --> 00:10:29,682 Speaker 3: I think the best one because I need somebody who's 210 00:10:29,802 --> 00:10:32,682 Speaker 3: you know, intelligent, somebody who has obviously, you know, great ears, 211 00:10:32,722 --> 00:10:35,162 Speaker 3: but also has a great sense of the flow. So 212 00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:38,922 Speaker 3: I went with the rapper mac miller rip mac miller Ow. 213 00:10:39,242 --> 00:10:41,762 Speaker 1: Although, as you said, Charlie whun I'm like, I really 214 00:10:41,802 --> 00:10:45,522 Speaker 1: see that, right, I think that's like a really good pull. 215 00:10:46,242 --> 00:10:48,162 Speaker 3: So there you go. That's my cast for the crew. 216 00:10:48,282 --> 00:10:51,722 Speaker 2: That's pretty good, Dana, you break the screenplay for that. Yes, 217 00:10:51,962 --> 00:10:55,882 Speaker 2: I'm on it all right, Dear Dana's Aaron Jason and 218 00:10:56,082 --> 00:10:59,242 Speaker 2: team love your show. I hope one day you'll take 219 00:10:59,282 --> 00:11:01,922 Speaker 2: the show on tour. Are there any plans for a 220 00:11:01,962 --> 00:11:06,682 Speaker 2: live event that's from Blaine. Tour is probably a little 221 00:11:06,682 --> 00:11:09,242 Speaker 2: bit more. I think that would be overshooting the size 222 00:11:09,242 --> 00:11:12,242 Speaker 2: of the actual audience. But maybe a live events. Aaron 223 00:11:12,322 --> 00:11:14,642 Speaker 2: and I did something in Venice, lest I guess I 224 00:11:14,682 --> 00:11:18,162 Speaker 2: was earlier this year at the lighthouse there. They have 225 00:11:18,242 --> 00:11:21,002 Speaker 2: already invited us back, Dana. Maybe we can get you 226 00:11:21,042 --> 00:11:23,082 Speaker 2: to come over to the West side for that. Yeah, 227 00:11:23,162 --> 00:11:26,042 Speaker 2: then the same tour can follow us. Have you done 228 00:11:26,322 --> 00:11:29,042 Speaker 2: Noble Blood or Ridiculous Crime tours yet? 229 00:11:29,602 --> 00:11:31,682 Speaker 3: No? No, we've talked about it. 230 00:11:31,762 --> 00:11:34,442 Speaker 1: I would have no idea how to do that. No 231 00:11:34,482 --> 00:11:37,202 Speaker 1: one has talked to me, and that the idea seems 232 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:41,162 Speaker 1: very intimidating. But if you are someone who knows how 233 00:11:41,162 --> 00:11:42,842 Speaker 1: to do a live tour or has an idea for 234 00:11:42,882 --> 00:11:45,002 Speaker 1: how Noble Blood should be alive, or please let me know. 235 00:11:45,562 --> 00:11:50,002 Speaker 2: Hello, VS, I'm writing the week before Thanksgiving. Do your 236 00:11:50,002 --> 00:11:53,642 Speaker 2: families have any unique holiday traditions? Your answer can relate 237 00:11:53,682 --> 00:11:57,122 Speaker 2: to any holiday, not just Thanksgiving. Thank you Carolyn for 238 00:11:57,162 --> 00:12:00,242 Speaker 2: giving us some leeway here. You guys have any Thanksgiving 239 00:12:00,442 --> 00:12:02,042 Speaker 2: or other holiday traditions. 240 00:12:02,482 --> 00:12:05,082 Speaker 1: We watched the parade, we watched the dog show. Those 241 00:12:05,082 --> 00:12:09,002 Speaker 1: are classics. I would say the only like sort of 242 00:12:09,042 --> 00:12:12,362 Speaker 1: like weird unique tradition we have that it comes to 243 00:12:12,402 --> 00:12:15,322 Speaker 1: mind is for Passover, where we used to make like 244 00:12:15,362 --> 00:12:19,162 Speaker 1: a home video version of the Passover story every year 245 00:12:19,682 --> 00:12:21,842 Speaker 1: and like cast each other. Like my older sister and 246 00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:25,482 Speaker 1: I would swap whose nepher Titi and who's Miriam and 247 00:12:25,522 --> 00:12:28,322 Speaker 1: then my little sister. Even as she got older, my 248 00:12:28,362 --> 00:12:31,722 Speaker 1: baby sister, Hallie was always baby Moses getting hold from 249 00:12:31,722 --> 00:12:35,522 Speaker 1: the bathtub. So yeah, I love that she was like 250 00:12:35,602 --> 00:12:37,362 Speaker 1: too big to still be naked into that. 251 00:12:37,562 --> 00:12:42,922 Speaker 2: So in my family, when my sister and I got 252 00:12:42,922 --> 00:12:46,082 Speaker 2: out of college and were having families of our own 253 00:12:46,322 --> 00:12:49,402 Speaker 2: and everyone started kind of moving away, my mom did 254 00:12:49,402 --> 00:12:52,082 Speaker 2: a very smart thing, which was plant a flag on 255 00:12:52,242 --> 00:12:56,442 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Friday. She branded it and the idea was like, 256 00:12:56,562 --> 00:12:58,882 Speaker 2: I know, everyone's pulled in a bunch of directions and 257 00:12:59,442 --> 00:13:02,242 Speaker 2: the time might not work out on Thanksgiving, But on 258 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:05,682 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Friday, I'm going to get a tent. We're going 259 00:13:05,762 --> 00:13:09,122 Speaker 2: to put up big table in the backyard. We'll get 260 00:13:09,162 --> 00:13:13,882 Speaker 2: it catered, and everybody came. No one had excuses for 261 00:13:13,962 --> 00:13:16,562 Speaker 2: many years, but the only time I saw many of 262 00:13:16,602 --> 00:13:19,322 Speaker 2: my relatives on that day, my Aunt Laura's kept up 263 00:13:19,362 --> 00:13:22,162 Speaker 2: the tradition, we'll go see her on Friday this year, 264 00:13:22,402 --> 00:13:27,122 Speaker 2: So I staunch advocate for Thanksgiving Friday or slightly alternative 265 00:13:27,122 --> 00:13:28,162 Speaker 2: holiday schedules. 266 00:13:28,282 --> 00:13:30,762 Speaker 1: Catering is clutched because no one will want to cook. 267 00:13:31,242 --> 00:13:33,722 Speaker 3: Yeah right, not two days in a row, super smart 268 00:13:33,722 --> 00:13:35,722 Speaker 3: and better than I mean, no offense to leftovers. But 269 00:13:35,842 --> 00:13:37,802 Speaker 3: you have that to look forward to too, you know. 270 00:13:37,842 --> 00:13:39,722 Speaker 3: Now you guys have like a double dipping on the 271 00:13:39,882 --> 00:13:43,322 Speaker 3: deliciousness we'll see. For my Thanksgiving family tradition, there was 272 00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:46,322 Speaker 3: always the question of who will Zreon bring to Thanksgiving, 273 00:13:46,882 --> 00:13:49,802 Speaker 3: because like every year I'd bring some friend or somebody 274 00:13:49,842 --> 00:13:51,722 Speaker 3: from college or somebody who was like a roommate who 275 00:13:51,762 --> 00:13:53,402 Speaker 3: just couldn't either make it home or didn't want to 276 00:13:53,402 --> 00:13:55,602 Speaker 3: go home, but they wanted some family time. And my 277 00:13:55,602 --> 00:13:57,602 Speaker 3: family's very accepting, and also there's just kind of like 278 00:13:57,642 --> 00:13:59,762 Speaker 3: some odd characters and their fun folks to hang out with. 279 00:13:59,802 --> 00:14:01,202 Speaker 3: So it was always like, who's there going to bring 280 00:14:01,322 --> 00:14:03,722 Speaker 3: this year? And then I also have another one, which 281 00:14:03,762 --> 00:14:05,802 Speaker 3: is at for Christmas, I have to go to church 282 00:14:05,842 --> 00:14:07,682 Speaker 3: with my mother. Then I have to have her priest 283 00:14:07,762 --> 00:14:10,002 Speaker 3: guilt me about never seeing me in the flock the 284 00:14:10,002 --> 00:14:12,202 Speaker 3: rest of the year. So there's that as what huh? 285 00:14:13,042 --> 00:14:17,122 Speaker 2: All right, let's see. Okay, this from Anna. I heard 286 00:14:17,162 --> 00:14:19,922 Speaker 2: you were doing a mail bag episode and decided to 287 00:14:19,962 --> 00:14:22,802 Speaker 2: write in with a question, why do you call it 288 00:14:22,882 --> 00:14:26,362 Speaker 2: a mail bag episode? I'm not saying I don't understand 289 00:14:26,362 --> 00:14:29,482 Speaker 2: the term. What I'm saying is everyone calls their listener 290 00:14:29,522 --> 00:14:33,642 Speaker 2: email segment a mail bag. Shouldn't you come up with something? 291 00:14:33,722 --> 00:14:36,922 Speaker 2: Dare I say special or at least original? So Anna 292 00:14:37,442 --> 00:14:40,882 Speaker 2: taking us to task? Good question. I spent a little 293 00:14:40,962 --> 00:14:44,282 Speaker 2: time on this, and I'm still scrambling to try to 294 00:14:44,322 --> 00:14:45,842 Speaker 2: come up with anything to say. 295 00:14:45,842 --> 00:14:48,922 Speaker 1: A letter sec I'm trying to think of, like basically, 296 00:14:48,962 --> 00:14:51,602 Speaker 1: I mean, she really pretty intelligently identified something that I 297 00:14:51,602 --> 00:14:55,162 Speaker 1: think is called a retronym if I remember correctly, which 298 00:14:55,202 --> 00:14:57,602 Speaker 1: is like, it's not actually a physical mail bag anymore, 299 00:14:57,642 --> 00:14:59,802 Speaker 1: but we still use it. Why don't we just call 300 00:14:59,802 --> 00:15:00,762 Speaker 1: it an email dump? 301 00:15:00,842 --> 00:15:03,042 Speaker 3: Oh? I love email dump? You know. Also, I was 302 00:15:03,082 --> 00:15:06,082 Speaker 3: thinking we could either include very special listener letters or 303 00:15:06,362 --> 00:15:08,282 Speaker 3: listener can But then I had more fun with the 304 00:15:08,322 --> 00:15:12,962 Speaker 3: idea of our pandemonium episode. It's pandemonium but with fans. Oh, 305 00:15:13,002 --> 00:15:15,082 Speaker 3: I like that we can brand that. 306 00:15:15,322 --> 00:15:18,402 Speaker 2: Well, I'll run that by Anna and see, he says, 307 00:15:18,842 --> 00:15:22,802 Speaker 2: if she'll accept that this is from Maura, I'm a 308 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:26,362 Speaker 2: very special listener. I've listened to every episode since you 309 00:15:26,442 --> 00:15:29,402 Speaker 2: asked for questions, I'll ask this, what topics will you 310 00:15:29,442 --> 00:15:34,322 Speaker 2: be covering this winter? We got a lot packed schedule. 311 00:15:34,442 --> 00:15:37,122 Speaker 2: Josh and I were just going over the calendar for 312 00:15:37,162 --> 00:15:40,522 Speaker 2: the next few months. We've got some Olympics stuff, We've 313 00:15:40,602 --> 00:15:46,562 Speaker 2: got Super Bowl. We've got some variations on the format 314 00:15:46,642 --> 00:15:49,882 Speaker 2: where Dana and Zara have gone into the field to 315 00:15:49,922 --> 00:15:54,562 Speaker 2: do some original historical reporting. If that's a term that 316 00:15:54,602 --> 00:15:58,482 Speaker 2: makes us, Zara or Dana anything stand out that we've 317 00:15:58,522 --> 00:15:59,442 Speaker 2: recorded recently. 318 00:15:59,802 --> 00:16:03,042 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very very excited for the very special, 319 00:16:03,162 --> 00:16:06,202 Speaker 1: very special episode that I'm working on now. I don't 320 00:16:06,202 --> 00:16:09,042 Speaker 1: want to spoil too much, but I, as Jason said, 321 00:16:09,042 --> 00:16:11,442 Speaker 1: it went into the field, took some pictures, did a 322 00:16:11,482 --> 00:16:14,362 Speaker 1: little investigating, and I hope we can do more of 323 00:16:14,402 --> 00:16:16,522 Speaker 1: this type of episode in the future. 324 00:16:16,682 --> 00:16:20,962 Speaker 3: Ooh nice. Well, in line with the Titanic PCP episode, 325 00:16:21,082 --> 00:16:24,922 Speaker 3: I took on another great drug inspired urban legend, which 326 00:16:24,962 --> 00:16:27,162 Speaker 3: is what I knew urban legend. I guess you's very 327 00:16:27,242 --> 00:16:29,802 Speaker 3: much factual, which is the picture of Doc Ellis pitched 328 00:16:29,802 --> 00:16:32,642 Speaker 3: a perfect game, or rather a no hitter on Acid 329 00:16:33,122 --> 00:16:34,802 Speaker 3: and I went and talked to a bunch of people 330 00:16:34,842 --> 00:16:37,242 Speaker 3: about that, including his wife, and got the inside story. 331 00:16:37,242 --> 00:16:39,282 Speaker 3: So that one's a fun one. I think, Joshua have 332 00:16:39,362 --> 00:16:40,082 Speaker 3: a lot of fun with it. 333 00:16:40,162 --> 00:16:42,922 Speaker 2: Good next few months. All right, Well, I think that 334 00:16:42,962 --> 00:16:48,082 Speaker 2: wraps it up here for our initial Pandemonium episode. I 335 00:16:48,122 --> 00:16:52,002 Speaker 2: want to thank everyone for seriously, for anyone who's listens 336 00:16:52,002 --> 00:16:54,362 Speaker 2: to the show, that's amazing to listen and take the 337 00:16:54,442 --> 00:16:58,562 Speaker 2: time to write in also even more amazing, and I 338 00:16:58,602 --> 00:17:02,922 Speaker 2: want to thank you Dana Zarin, josh everyone behind the 339 00:17:02,922 --> 00:17:06,762 Speaker 2: scenes here. This is a dream to get to work 340 00:17:07,002 --> 00:17:10,202 Speaker 2: on this show. And I'm very proud of all the 341 00:17:10,242 --> 00:17:13,442 Speaker 2: great stories we've been able to put out into the world. 342 00:17:13,922 --> 00:17:19,002 Speaker 2: More to come, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving Friday, and we 343 00:17:19,042 --> 00:17:20,402 Speaker 2: will see you here next Wednesday. 344 00:17:20,602 --> 00:17:22,522 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's such a privilege to be 345 00:17:22,562 --> 00:17:23,482 Speaker 1: able to do this show. 346 00:17:23,602 --> 00:17:26,042 Speaker 3: Yeah, completely, thank you for the listener emailed and all 347 00:17:26,122 --> 00:17:28,722 Speaker 3: of the kind words, and just happy Thanksgiving and happy 348 00:17:28,722 --> 00:17:30,202 Speaker 3: Holidays to everybody. 349 00:17:29,802 --> 00:17:32,242 Speaker 1: And thank you for putting me in the same sentence 350 00:17:32,282 --> 00:17:33,002 Speaker 1: as Ava Green. 351 00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:39,482 Speaker 2: Very Special Episodes is made by some very special people, 352 00:17:39,562 --> 00:17:43,602 Speaker 2: including Danish Schwartz and Zaren Burnett. Senior producer Josh Fisher. 353 00:17:44,122 --> 00:17:47,922 Speaker 2: Today's episode was edited by Josh Fisher. Original music by 354 00:17:47,922 --> 00:17:51,922 Speaker 2: Alisa McCoy, Show logo by Lucy Cantonia. Thanks again to 355 00:17:51,962 --> 00:17:54,322 Speaker 2: everyone who wrote in. Sorry we didn't get to all 356 00:17:54,402 --> 00:17:58,082 Speaker 2: your questions, but they're now preserved in the Pandemonium Google doc. 357 00:17:58,122 --> 00:18:03,042 Speaker 2: I just renamed it Reyese, Gail Matthew, Derek Lydia. We're 358 00:18:03,042 --> 00:18:06,362 Speaker 2: going to get to yours next time. I promise, Happy Thanksgiving. 359 00:18:07,082 --> 00:18:17,882 Speaker 2: Very Special Episodes is a production of iHeart Podcasts.