1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 3: Podcast, Welcome to you, and that's where you were in 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 3: this podcast guest edition, our dear friend Phoebe Stroll, who 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: played the wonderful Nurse Penny Kevin wonderful. We love Nurse Penny, 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: vibrant Penny, and we love Penny and Sam and we 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: love Phoebe. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: What is sweet? 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: So Phoebe was always like Vibe and I did Spring 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: Awakening together prior to Glee, and she was always like 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: such a sound mind. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: She was like one of the older. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Goals, which is funny because we're going she was like 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: twenty two, you know, but like elderly. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 4: You know. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: She was one of the older ones. 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: And she was one of the original cast members and 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: it's funny to think about it like that, but she 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: was like just a wonderful, wonderful energy. 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: In the theater all the time. And how fun was 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: it to have her on. 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: Set and we got to hang out with her. We 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: get into it. But like we had, all us who 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: were not in Spring Awakening met so much of the 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: Spring Awakening crew. 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a second family. 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: Yes, fully, and so it was so nice to actually 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: have her be a part of the show finally, you know, 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: in season five, because she had been there. I think 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: we'd all hung out since season one. 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, her audition is so funny. Her audition story is 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: really really funny. All right, Well, enjoy Phoebe Stroll. Phoebe Stroll. Wah, Kevin, 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: So good to see you. 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: It's really really long time. 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 5: It really has. 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't a person since I think I 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: was Yeah on the set. 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that hurts. 39 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: It was crazy to see you like pop up as well. 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: Like I knew it was coming, but you were. I 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: just felt like we knew you immediately. For those of 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: us who are not in Spring Awakening, all the Awakening 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: folk like came around. Yeah, and like our groups merged 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: and so it felt like a family member, like with 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: Skylar coming in or with grap coming in, like, oh, 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: these are just like the extended family. Well that's nice, 47 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: of course it came on. 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you know every musical theater 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: performer in New York auditioned for the show for years. 50 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly. 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I don't remember how you got on the 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: show and if this was your first time auditioning for 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: the show. Can you just remind us of that tale? 54 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: Oh okay, no, I think I. 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: Auditioned for for multiple guest stars through the years, you know, 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: and then this was like this. 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 5: I actually don't know. 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 4: I'm curious what you know actually, because I never really 59 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: found out. 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 5: It was very last minute. 61 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: It was like my manager called me in a panic 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: at like five pm one day. I was like, there 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: a little right now, I got Jim cardhead for you, 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: and I was like, okay. Unfortunately I was already like 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: I was on my way to a concert, so I 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: already had like makeup and my hair done and stuff. 67 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, we're good. 68 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: So I just flew there on. 69 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: This detoured on the way to a concert to go 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: to a tape. 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah you know, actually it was it was the Dan band. 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, amazing. 73 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: Did you have like a callback or did you have 74 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: to or did they just book you? 75 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: They called me like three hours later, and you're coming. 76 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: To Hollywood, you kind of Hollywood, babe. Did you know 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: that it was going to be more than one episode? 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: I knew that was kind of the idea, but I 79 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: also knew that y'all were in a lot of blocks oil. 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: What was that like coming into that because it's like, 81 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: you booked this role that so many of your friends 82 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: like on the show that so many of your friends 83 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: are on, you also are sensitive to the fact that 84 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: we're all going through some crazy thing. Like what was 85 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: the vibe like when you got to said, do you remember? 86 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I just I really, like, from what I 87 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: can remember, yeah, it was. But I know it probably 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: still like feels like yesterday to you because it was 89 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: so traumatic. 90 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: I'm sure. Yeah. 91 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: I just remember feeling like I really felt admiration for 92 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: all of you because I had the sense that you 93 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 4: all were, i mean pushing through a lot, and you 94 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: all had a sense of like dark gallows humor about it. 95 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 5: I just yeah, I mean, you know kind of. 96 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Knew it's also all that. 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I'm sure, but you know, when you're a 98 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: guest star, you're like you're going into your You're going 99 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: into a machine that's already in full motion, so you 100 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: kind of have to just like be flexible and go 101 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: with the flow. So I just try I don't know, 102 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: I tried to be I think I was. I was 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: aware that y'all were going through You're. 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 6: Smart, yeah, smart, and also like you knew us as well, 105 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 6: Like even though you didn't get to work with most 106 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 6: of us, but like you and Cord you were. 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: On set though, like I could hang out a lot. 108 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: I definitely have. 109 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely hung out with you a lot. 110 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: And yeah, you guys were all so welcoming and kind 111 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: really because it was a lot so for you to 112 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: even like take the time to be like, hey, what's 113 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: up and converse with me was really nice. But yeah, Kevin, 114 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I I assume I must 115 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: have like been there, yeah, twenty years before when I 116 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: was out in l A doing who knows what the 117 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: hell I was doing? 118 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yeah, I remember, I distinctly remember like hanging 119 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: out with you a lot, like one on set or 120 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: like at somebody set. I don't know, just like a dinner. 121 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: Husband reminded me that we ran into you at Elsambrero 122 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: one time, and yeah, I don't know. 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I just feel like, yeah. 124 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Like you knew a lot of it. Everybody knew a 125 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: lot of this bringing crew, right. 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like like Daniel would come visit. 127 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: Like Lily came visit, yes, right him, Yeah, she came 128 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: during the pilot ran but she really went to like 129 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: Disneyland with her and Chris and. 130 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: She just hung out with us. That's so funny. What 131 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: was it like playing Penny. 132 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: We could have had way more of Penny with Sam, but. 133 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: She's such a funny, like little character. 134 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like, yeah, just fun and silly, and 135 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: you know, you don't have a lot of time to really, like, 136 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 4: you know, do a whole character study. 137 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 5: You have to show up and you know, do it. 138 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 4: But I really thought the writing was funny and accessible, 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: and I loved working with Ian. He was very like, uh, 140 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 4: open to my weird ideas. So it was Cord obviously, 141 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: So I just thought it was. 142 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: A good silly in the perfect group it. 143 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of was. 144 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: It means the funny person to work with for the 145 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: first time. 146 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh really, how. 147 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: So he's just like a you know, we like to 148 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: call him like a golden retriever, Like he's like a 149 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: puppy who's like, I'll do anything. I love to make 150 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: people laugh. I just like to like be around people. 151 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: So it's just it's interesting to meet somebody like who 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: worked with him that closely right off the bat and 153 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: has to have this like chemistry, whereas like Cord, it 154 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 3: took a minute for me to warm up to Chord. 155 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Really we have this thing where we're like Chord has 156 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: chemistry with everybody, like oh yeah immediately, and your scenes 157 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: together were like, oh, this is golden yeah, because both 158 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: of you the way your character is just so charming. 159 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: And also it is crazy that you did just have 160 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: to hop in because it does feel like a fully 161 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: thought out, full fledged character, Like it felt like, oh, 162 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: she knows exactly who this person is and it is 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: like embodying that with like her weird shit with like 164 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: just and I loved their dynamic because like Chord and 165 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Sam are like weirdos, but because he's like pretty boy, 166 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: you don't necessarily think that. And I feel like your 167 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: guys dynamic like brought that out of him even more, 168 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: which is really nice to see. And like he is 169 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: so sweet and Sam is so sweet and you are 170 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: so Like this magical combination that happened on the way 171 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: to a concert of you auditioning for this and then 172 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: you just hopped in this role was sort of perfect. Yeah. 173 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 174 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: And I also like a thing that can happen with 175 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: the show is that if you lean in, and we've 176 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: talked about it before, like if you lean in too 177 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: much to the crazy then they can go to like 178 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: really off the rails, where like your balance of playing 179 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: like the eccentricities. I don't know the way you did it. 180 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is so refreshing. 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: We haven't seen anything like this so much. 182 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: Wow, that's really nice. Thank you. 183 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: I didn't. 184 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: I was just kind of like, well, I guess I'll 185 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: just do my little thing, and all I have to 186 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: would say you're doing it wrong and I'll change it. 187 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: But because really, you know, that's the kind of that's 188 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: the life of a guest star. 189 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: You know, you just kind of shield. 190 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're at the whim of like this other machine 191 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: that's already just built. 192 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: That's fun. 193 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 5: I think that's fun and exciting. 194 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: You know. 195 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like a very good challenge. Like the 196 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: classes is like, okay, can I pick up can I 197 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: figure out what the tone is here? 198 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: To match it? 199 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: I will say it was a bummer that you didn't 200 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: get to sing on the show. 201 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: I know, I know she can sing. 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what the heck? 203 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. 204 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: I never really found out the answer. 205 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: Okay, did you have to sing in your audition? 206 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 207 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 5: I did. 208 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: Do you remember I do because well, I think I 209 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: knew it was a Beatles show. I think I was 210 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: trying to remember this, so I used to sing Yesterday 211 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: all the time, Okay, for auditions. 212 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 5: Can I tell you a funny story about this, please? Okay? 213 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: So I sang Yesterday because it's like I love the 214 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: Evacacidy version. If anyone hasn't heard the Evacacity version Yesterday, 215 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: go listen to it. 216 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: It's so beautiful. 217 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: So that's kind of like in my mind when I 218 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: sing it, it's kind of a go to. It fits 219 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: in my voice. It's easily accessible. I didn't have to 220 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: like warm up, you know what I mean. It was 221 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: so yeah, I was singing that forever. And then not 222 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: long after I think Glee, I auditioned for some I 223 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: actually don't want to. 224 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 5: Say what it was. I was justent for a Broadway 225 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: show and. 226 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: They asked for a pop frog song and I was like, 227 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: I'll just do that. It's easy. 228 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 5: I don't have to think about it, you know. 229 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: And I went in and I could tell him when 230 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: I sang it, and it was just like flat. It was 231 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: like the room was just like thanks for coming, you know. 232 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 4: And the director I happened to have worked with the 233 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: director before and I respect him very much, so I 234 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: felt a little iffy and he came out of the 235 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: room after me, and I was he was like, he 236 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: pulled me aside. He was like, Hey, just want to say, 237 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: just because I respect you and I think you're great, 238 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: you should never sing that song at an audition again. 239 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh okay. 240 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 5: He was like, it just doesn't He said, it just 241 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: doesn't serve you. Oh got it? Okay. 242 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: So it was like, really nice of him to give 243 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: me that constructive criticism. 244 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: But then I didn't immediately start drinking so. 245 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Bad, Like, so I nailed it. Then that was a 246 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: tough I did good. 247 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, this worked for Glee. 248 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 6: So. 249 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 5: It was a tough. It was a tough growing moment 250 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 5: for me. 251 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is brutal. 252 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: The amount of times that I'm sure director thought that 253 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: and didn't come out of the room and tell me. 254 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 5: Tell me. I was like, yeah, you know. 255 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: Like I have to go more, and the amount of 256 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: auditions I've sung this on now. 257 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: Then let me move forward. Yes, my god, it's crazy. 258 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Where do you up to now, Phoebe? What's 259 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: going on in your life? 260 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: I mean I'm just I'm living on living in New York. 261 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: I got my husband, and I have a Jack Russell 262 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: who's merciful right now, or otherwise he'd be acting insane. 263 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if you have experience with Jack Russell. 264 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: They're crazy, right, all them? 265 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, great dog. 266 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 4: But I do a lot of like I do a 267 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: lot of audiobook narration, which I'm really poor. 268 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: It's hard. 269 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: It is. 270 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: It is two audiobooks now, and it is like it's 271 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: another skill set that you have to like that and 272 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: take care of yourself and like look away from the page. 273 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: Yes, I actually bet you're really good at it, because 274 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: I feel like reading an audiobook successfully is like reading 275 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: music while you're it's like playing It's like playing music 276 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: and reading sheep. 277 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: Your brain is doing like multiple things at once, and 278 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: it can go like completely off the rails and like 279 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't know your experience, like the producers you've worked with, 280 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: like in your ear while you're recording, but like sometimes 281 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: they're like take a breath, take a sip of water, 282 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: look away from the page, and then come back because 283 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: you starts to like play with the letters and the words. 284 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, you're right. It's a totally different skill set, 285 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: but it's really fun. Yeah, I do love mostly young adult. 286 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: Both of your voices are very soothing though, that. 287 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: The radio voice. 288 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 6: Yes. 289 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Also, you had a dog while we were in Spring Awakening. 290 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: That's right, that we loved very dearly. 291 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 5: God bless her. 292 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 4: And then your role on the show was named, right, 293 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: it was Kismet. 294 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: You were like, look at the page, I'm meant to 295 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 3: play this part. 296 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 5: Got that poor dog. 297 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: So sweet she was, but she's just you know, you 298 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: met her, you got to know her very well. 299 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 5: This is a dog that we never have survived. 300 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 6: Uh. 301 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: She's very sweet, but she very small. 302 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: Puffy, oh like tiny tiny. 303 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was really small, right, she was like four pounds. 304 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 305 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: And she had you know how babies have a fontanelle. 306 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: That's obviously you know, because you have this there's skull 307 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: plates come together. That never happened for poor Penny. Show 308 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: a soft spot right. 309 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: At Penny. 310 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 5: We got ten good years with her. 311 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, did you get her during the show? 312 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: I did, Jenna, I did, right. 313 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: I remember that you. 314 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 4: Snuck her into that dressing room because we were on 315 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: the fifth floor, because no one came up there because 316 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: it was only accessible by stairs, that's right, and. 317 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: Nobody and when I was off stage swing I got 318 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: to hang out with him and she was on stage. 319 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: It's cutey. Did you both meet on Spring Awakening? 320 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had started already, and obviously I came on. 321 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: God for you, Thank God for you. I was just 322 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: thinking the other day about how you were always like nice, 323 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: always the one to say something really funny, like you 324 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: were always making us laugh. We were always so god 325 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: damn dramatic, so I can I curse? Yeah, and we 326 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: were always going through some trauma. 327 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you guys had really been through it, not 328 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: unlike our show built You build a bond. Yeah, in 329 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: the process of creating something very magical, and that becomes 330 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: very public. And I mean, you guys were on like 331 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: billboards and on gap ads for like in Times Square, 332 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: and that's not normal for Broadway casts. 333 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: Like they were a. 334 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 6: Phenomenon, especially like all henomenon New Wish people like you're 335 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 6: not necessarily yeah, you're. 336 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: Young, it is, hormones are raging, fame is happening. And 337 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: then I pop in like halfway through that after the Tonys, 338 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: and there they've already been through it all. So it's 339 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: like coming in as a guest star into like a 340 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: house that's not quite yours yet, but like you're like, I. 341 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Hope maybe they'll have me. 342 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: I was only supposed to come with Lily went to 343 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: go do her musical at LaGuardia so that she could 344 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: come back and graduate, and then I was supposed to 345 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: be gone. 346 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: Oh, thank god, thank god for you. You just make 347 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: you could, Yeah, you could go into any role, like, 348 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 4: you're just amazing. 349 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I went into your role first. Actually do you remember this? 350 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: So everybody I had joined the cast, I had learned 351 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: four of the roles. 352 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: Which I don't understand. 353 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 6: You won. 354 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't understand how people are swings and have to 355 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: learn entire tracks from multiple people. 356 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: It's actually banana, that is the I. 357 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: Think about it all the time, Honestly, anytime I hear 358 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: like crazy harmonies and shows and things, I'm like, what 359 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: is the swing doing here? Like how are you doing this? 360 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? It is kind of bananas. Luckily it was only 361 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: four girls, so like it wasn't. 362 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: Only four roles, yeah right, and the girls like we're 363 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: in tandem, so you just had to keep track of 364 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: like which one did what. 365 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: But Phoebe was an understudy for Elsa. For Lauram Pritchard 366 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: and the like. 367 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks in after learning all the parts, 368 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: everybody got the flu. It was like widespread throughout the theater. 369 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Everybody was calling out. Phoebe had to go on for 370 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: Elsa and I had not had a put in yet, 371 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: so I had never done it. I didn't have a costume. 372 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: I wore Jen's costume for the first one, my first 373 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: uh in, and it was just the craziest thing. And 374 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: I don't remember any of it. The lights like came 375 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: on and I remember being like, I don't know where 376 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: the fuck. I was utterly shocking, and you're just like, 377 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 3: I hope people just push me where I'm supposed to go, 378 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: and you just like yet through it. But I remember, yeah, 379 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: Ama was the first one I went on for Crazy. 380 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 381 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: Even during the show though, like through the run of 382 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: the show, I would still have to go back to 383 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 3: my binder and refer to the Mama harmonies because there 384 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: were so like all small differences. But then I came back. 385 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: Funny story, I came back from the show from doing 386 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: Glee for eight weeks in LA from doing the pilot 387 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: while we waited to see if it was going to 388 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: get picked up, and you guys had already gone and 389 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: the new cast had already come in. But Amanda, who 390 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: played Marta at that time, she missed her train. It 391 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: was my first day back in the theater. The first 392 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: day back, I was going to go sit in the 393 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: back of the house watch the show, refresh my memory. 394 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: And of course they come back to the back of 395 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: the house and they're like, Jenna, you have to go on. 396 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't think I remember the 397 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: show at all, and I and you do. Your muscle 398 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 3: memory just goes and you're crazy. It's like riding a bike. 399 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: Your body just like takes you where you need to go. 400 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: But it was that was terrifying too, eight weeks away. 401 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: Terrifying but exhilarating, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still got it. 402 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: Like, well, it's gonna happen whether I like it or not. 403 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: And then you like stave the day. 404 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, a little bit, a little bit. That's the 405 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: swing thing. 406 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: Right time you go on, you're like, ah, yes, you're 407 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: all welcome. 408 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 409 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: No, truly though, like the the amount of talent that 410 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: it takes, I'm not tooting my own heart, just like 411 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: for swings in general. 412 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: To be like, have to do that. It's crazy. It's 413 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. 414 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: They're amazing, which also makes sense why you both can 415 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: do these audiobook things if your brain is having to, 416 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: like I don't. It also makes sense of why you 417 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: were probably so sensitive also coming onto like the Glee set, 418 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: because you all had been just through this rollercoaster, right, 419 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: that was very similar and with people you knew, Like 420 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: it was not a huge jump from like Spring Awakening 421 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: cast to Glee cast. I felt like we always felt 422 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: like there was I don't know if you felt that, 423 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: but because like I felt that forever, and it felt 424 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: like we like, you know, Leah and john were They're like, yeah, 425 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: we were mom and dad like, well, sort of feels 426 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: like that here as well. 427 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, and when Jonathan was on, Yeah, well that's so. 428 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: Funny because he also was like around from the very 429 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: beginning anyway, like just hanging out. 430 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh I see, so he was always. 431 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: He was always, But that's what it always felt like, 432 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: even if we didn't hang out all the time, have 433 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: like the closest relationship, and it felt like anybody who 434 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: was in the Spring Awakening family was also in the 435 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: Glee family. So like having you on felt like, yeah, like, 436 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: oh yeah, of course, oh thank god, Like you understand 437 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: it was weird having like other people who we did 438 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: not know the vibe come on, especially that season. 439 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: I think you're onto something there, because like when you've 440 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: gone through something so crazy, you're kind of like, well, 441 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 4: I'm ready for crazy, Like it's fine, I can I 442 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: can handle the I can handle whatever weird stuff. 443 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine, but it is. 444 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's nice of you to say, but I mean, 445 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 4: jumping into a working TV set is like it's it's 446 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 4: it's a shock to the system at first for sure, 447 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: but it's so massive. 448 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been on a lot of massive TV shows, 449 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: so like I would be terrified you did you do 450 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: thirty Rock? 451 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: Yes? 452 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: They did, Like I would be terrified. 453 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: That's scary. Yeah it was, it was. It was okay, good, 454 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: it was. 455 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: But it's that it's that jumping out of a plane thing. 456 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 5: It's like, here I go, you know, just do it. Yeah, 457 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: and yeah, so. 458 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: You happen to just be really good and talented and funny, 459 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: so it works out for you. 460 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: Going back to the whole thing of like having been 461 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: through something like Glee where there's like lots of drama, trauma, 462 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: relationship friendships, like very close knit going through something. 463 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: That's kind of like lightning in a bottle. 464 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: What your reflections are now because ours obviously we do 465 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: this podcast because we like to reflect on the time 466 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: that has passed, right and looking back now ten years later, 467 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: So I'm curious like your reflections on Spring Awakening from 468 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: that viewpoint as well, having had so much time and 469 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: then also doing the reunion and everybody coming back together. 470 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: You know, I will say I have described doing the 471 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: Reunion concert it felt like being in a really fun 472 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: haunted house because it was like it felt kind of creepy, 473 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: but make thing, and we're doing this show again on 474 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: our like fully grown bodies. 475 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: Right, gross to say. 476 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: But that makes a lot of sense, And like as I'm. 477 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: Sure you all might feel the same way, It's like 478 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: the dynamics felt exactly the same, Like it almost felt 479 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 4: like to me, I don't know how long I want 480 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: to live in this again, and I don't in that 481 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: bad way, but just it felt so beautifully painful because 482 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 4: it was like that was such a specific time. It 483 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: was such a multuous good and bad, Like I think 484 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: I experienced every emotion possible doing that show, and so 485 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 4: it was just so like I feel like a lot 486 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 4: of us have talked a few of us have talked 487 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: about this. I feel like a lot of us got 488 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: some kind of weird closure. I feel like over the 489 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: fifteen years before we did that concert, I still had 490 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 4: some and I won't get into the details, I still 491 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: had some like almost open wounds. I had some unresolved 492 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: conflicts or issues or feelings that still kind of haunted 493 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: me a little bit haunted house. And I felt like 494 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: they got resolved in a way. It felt it felt 495 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: closed in a way for me personally, right, So, yeah, 496 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if that really answers completely. 497 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 5: It was so like it was a lot so I. 498 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 4: Will say, like the first night when we had rehearsal, 499 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: I told my husband, like, I'm sure we'll go out 500 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 4: because we had the rehearsal wasn't in the evening. I 501 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 4: was like, I'm sure I'll off for a drink or 502 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: something after, and I think we all stayed out till 503 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 4: like at least three in the morning. It was like, 504 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it was like I forgot it 505 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: wasn't twenty one twenty three when. 506 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: I you know, I'm like, I started getting texts from getting. 507 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you say? 508 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: Almost exactly what you just said. It was weird, the 509 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: exact same thing of like outer body. Yeah, and just 510 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: like the old wounds and like things that needed to 511 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: like have closure that you didn't even realize until like 512 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: you were there, like almost verbatim. 513 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: What you just said. 514 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: Wow, And he's like, we're all out right now drinking. 515 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, great, good luck. I hope you find 516 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: what you're looking for. 517 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: My husband thought I was dead. I mean it was, 518 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 5: but at. 519 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: The same time he knew I was out, he was, 520 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 4: you know, and I think I came home just like yeah, 521 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 4: oh yeah, I'm. 522 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is not my life, like this is 523 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: my life right. Yeah, No, that that resonates. That makes 524 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: total sense. I bet if we did a reunion, which 525 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: we do on our own sometimes anyway, like you know, gatherings, 526 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 3: but with smaller groups of people, not everybody, and like 527 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 3: you just you have your stuff or you don't have 528 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: your stuff, but like everything just goes back to like 529 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: you revert back to the twenty year old self and 530 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 3: people know. 531 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: You the way they know you and the way they 532 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: know you now, and you're just like we can just go, 533 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: we can just be like forever. 534 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: And I also think that going through those situations where 535 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 2: you do experience every known emotion under the sun in 536 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: a short period of time with all of these people 537 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: looking back at it now, it's like, well, you have 538 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: nothing to lose to sort of confront all those things 539 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: head on because you have this like deep foundation of 540 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: like respect and understanding for one another. 541 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: Yea. 542 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: And so it's like, well, we can talk about this. 543 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: You don't have to agree, but like at this point, 544 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: we've experienced all of these things together, which makes that 545 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: relationship really really strong, for better or for worse. And 546 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: I like we've done that like with people that we've 547 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: needed to like talk to and things like that, or 548 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 2: so like, yeah, okay, let's just talk this out, not 549 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: even necessarily looking for closure. But then when it happens, 550 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, oh that feels closed up in like 551 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: a good way. Didn't realize they needed that. And I've 552 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: seen you do it, and I've seen like other people 553 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: do it, so it I do think like you guys 554 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: had that reunion like under the guys like this healing 555 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: therapy therapeutic exchange under the guys of reunion exactly. 556 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: Like let's just get Yeah, it's kind of like I 557 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 4: don't know if you will. 558 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: I'm sure we're all of therapy, aren't we. 559 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: It's kind of like you can do all the actual 560 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: therapy you want, but then when you actually like go 561 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: home and are with your family, you're like, oh wait, 562 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 4: I was talking a big game. 563 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: Oh now I have to execute and implement hotly. 564 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: Jenna and I did that to each other once. Yeah, 565 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: I want to say it was someone and we're like, look, 566 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: I just need you to know that I'm going to 567 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: be really shameful in how I act because all of that, 568 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: like training, all the game I talk is going to 569 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: fly out the window and I'm not going to be 570 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: able to help myself. And I'm just moning. I'm just 571 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: warning you, and I feel ashamed. She's like me too. 572 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, great, yeah, but that. 573 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 4: Is the most like self knowing thing you could say. 574 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, I made up four years later, 575 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: but I was like I had to learn. 576 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you do. 577 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: They'll do it. 578 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: If Parenty, you could sing a song on the show, 579 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: what would you have had her sing other than my dog. 580 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: With their soft spot? 581 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 3: Also also Penny, but you your character. 582 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I don't know. 583 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: I guess it would have been well, either would have 584 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: been the Beatles episode or the Katie you know what. 585 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: She probably would have sung because you know how, I 586 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: actually rewatched them this morning. 587 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 5: She has the moment with Sam where she's like, I actually. 588 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: Don't like scroll UKs, I like, you're so funny. 589 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 5: So they probably would have done some like pop girl 590 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: duet together. 591 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how cute I think cute. 592 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: I love that storyline. I love that about like he 593 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: likes it. So, yeah, you believe, I say I can't. 594 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: I forgot the line where she's like, Scarlet spit in 595 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: a cup and threw it on me. 596 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: That's some weird thing. Yeah, the dead pen way. 597 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: You also say that I lost it, just like, yeah, honey, 598 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: we love Penny. 599 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: Where were you like in high school? 600 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, were you a musical theater girl? 601 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: Not till later. I started out very like I came from. 602 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: I was in a do you know what magnet schools are? 603 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 5: They don't exist. 604 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in a magnet middle school for math 605 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 4: and science. You were? 606 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: You were? 607 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: She's a smartie and this makes sense. 608 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: Glasses and braces and men's clothes and I was just miserable. 609 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know the gift of song yet. 610 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they just wanted a skater boy to like me 611 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 4: so bad. Same and yeah, it wasn't until I was 612 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: in Yeah, I don't know. It wasn't until I was 613 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: I had two of my very best girlfriends who are 614 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: still in my life, my very best friends who know 615 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 4: me like sister is Vanessa and Lane. They had done 616 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: community theater and took me along with them, and I 617 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: was like, Oh, this is where the weirdos are. I 618 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: like this because you feel seen a little bit. 619 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 5: I didn't even know it. But my but my family, 620 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 5: I say that. 621 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: But I grew up around music and musical theater because 622 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: my grandparents were musical theater performers and opera singers. So 623 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: I grew up around like the hammer's fine and all 624 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 4: this stuff. But I never anticipated that I would that 625 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: I would do it. And then I just started doing 626 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: high school theater and I've been I thought, I don't 627 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: want to go to New York, never turning back. I'm 628 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: going to be off Broadway. 629 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: Here she is. 630 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of people. 631 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people were smiling and nodding 632 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 4: at me about it. 633 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: But yeappened. 634 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: You know what happens. 635 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: You know, we say this, It always takes a little 636 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: bit of delusion to get you there, though, you know 637 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: a healthy dose of delusion. We both are from Texas. 638 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 5: Wait are you? 639 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm from Dallas? 640 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: Shut up? 641 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 5: But be fort Worth. 642 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: That's crazy? 643 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: Oh my god, what high school did you go to? 644 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: Well? 645 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: I technically moved freshman year of high school to la 646 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: Oh damn. So I would have gone to Island in Plano, Texas. 647 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: Oh so I would have gone to Plano East. It 648 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: would have been my high school. 649 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 4: I know, I remember it's different now, but I remember 650 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 4: it being kind of like the heroin capital of like 651 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 4: it was. 652 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: That's what I tell people, Like fun fact was the 653 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: heroin capital the US. 654 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 655 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: Well, Phoebe, we are so grateful for your time and 656 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: for you coming on, and we really really loved your 657 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: storyline and having you on the show, and we really 658 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: feel like we were robbed and we should have had more. 659 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 5: That's so thank you. 660 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: It was really sweet much for saying that. I don't 661 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: remember what happened there, but you know, it was kind. 662 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: Of like it happens. 663 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: That's what I heard. 664 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: You know. 665 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: They aired before Corey's episode and then Corey's episode aired, 666 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: and then after that it was what Katie got go, 667 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: and then the whole rest of the season is completely unhinged. 668 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: So it's not you. Yeah, it was nice. I a hinged. 669 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: I'm figured, and you know, as you know in this in. 670 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 5: The showbiz there's it's so much bigger than you. 671 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: And so it's like, I'm just so glad that I 672 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: got to do it. It was so fun and I 673 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: so thank you for saying those nice things, and thank 674 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: you for having me on your amazing podcast. 675 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this. 676 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: You what is sweet sweet soul? 677 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: Love her so much. Has not changed. Always since the 678 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: first time I met her. Always just like so sound 679 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: like cerebral, is thinking about everything, very calm. 680 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: That's her that she's always. 681 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: She went to a magnet school. He's smart, geek Penny. 682 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: Sweet Phoebe. Well, thank you Phoebe for coming on the show, 683 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: taking the time. We are so grateful. We loved having 684 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: a nurse Penny. 685 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: You're the best, Phoebe. So nice to talk to you. 686 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: And that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening and 687 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really 688 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: miss pod. 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