WEBVTT - The NBA Landscape Is Evolving

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<v Speaker 1>China. Yes, you heard that right, China.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had like one of those buttons where

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<v Speaker 2>I could make my voice lower.

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<v Speaker 1>China.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, well, China end up owning multiple NBA teams. Probably yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably lost in the shuffle this past month is a

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<v Speaker 2>decision that Adam Silver and the NBA made about who

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<v Speaker 2>can own an NBA team. The NBA Board of Governors

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<v Speaker 2>made a rule change that allows sovereign wealth funds. Anytime

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<v Speaker 2>I hear those three words together, I start freaking the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck out. Sovereign wealth funds I don't know, like Saudi Arabia,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's just look that up for a second. Endowments,

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<v Speaker 2>pension funds all can buy stakes in NBA teams. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is this important? Well because sovereign wealth or offshoots of

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<v Speaker 2>foreign governments. And the NBA now becomes the first pro

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<v Speaker 2>sport in America to allow foreign governments to buy into

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<v Speaker 2>the league. Are we gonna have some fucking international warfare

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<v Speaker 2>inside the NBA? WHOA could you imagine which team would

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<v Speaker 2>it be? I mean it's gotta be the Brooklyn Nets,

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<v Speaker 2>right like Josi, Josi, we know how he connected?

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<v Speaker 1>He is. China just made it up the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head, probably true. Who else would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Tilman for Tidda of the Houston Rocket seems like he

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<v Speaker 2>would be open to selling the share to Saudi Arabia. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna slander anybody else, but I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 2>a few people who would do it. They could take

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<v Speaker 2>positions also in up to five teams at the same

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<v Speaker 2>goddamn time. If you think tamprings a issue, now imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if let's say Saudi, let's say Russia. Russia owns five

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<v Speaker 2>NBA teams five Imagine what kind of trades are we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see, What kind of free agency situations are we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see? I mean, the opportunities for chaos are limitless, limitless,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean the Bradley Cooper film. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>literally expand your imagination to how bad this.

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<v Speaker 1>Can be, and let's just go through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this a problem, Well, let's say the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>government buys a twenty percent stake in five NBA teams.

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<v Speaker 2>We know for a fact that the Chinese government can

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<v Speaker 2>just randomly decide to ban an NBA team if they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing something they don't like. We saw that happen right

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<v Speaker 2>with Daryl Morey and the Houston Rockets. They did this

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<v Speaker 2>to the Celtics over the enis Cant freedom situation. So

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<v Speaker 2>the question is what does Adam Silver do when there's

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<v Speaker 2>China owning teams?

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<v Speaker 1>How does he deal with that? Does he take a

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<v Speaker 1>stance Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what happens when more problems arise with China when

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<v Speaker 2>they own the equivalent of the entire NBA team.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about other prominent sovereign wealth funds.

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<v Speaker 2>Countries like Cutter host the World Cup right now, Ask

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<v Speaker 2>what's been going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And Cutter do a quick little Google search.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, did you see any of these football players putting

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<v Speaker 2>their hands to their mouth because they've been silenced by

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<v Speaker 2>the government about the atrocities that took place just to

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<v Speaker 2>build those fucking arenas. Imagine, imagine the type of things

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen on our own soil if Cutter owned

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking I don't know Seattle SuperSonics, be honest, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know Las Vegas Rattlesnakes.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be fucking wild.

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<v Speaker 2>They could put themselves in position to own and influence

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<v Speaker 2>the league in ways that probably no foreign nation should.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go through them. One China Investment Corporation one

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<v Speaker 2>point four trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they could buy.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of teams, maybe the Phoenix Suns. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hot there. Norway Government Pension Fund one point one

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<v Speaker 2>trillion abu Dabi Investment Authority.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at their human.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights called situation right seven to ninety billion Kuwait Investment Authority.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you starting to get the chills? Seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty billion dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Norway being probably the only one that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm accepting that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's let them be the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>But eleven of the thirteen largest sovereign wealth funds in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>are either Middle Eastern or Chinese.

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<v Speaker 1>Boo, folks, folks, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's not a political podcast. You don't need

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<v Speaker 2>my political takes. But I don't see how letting governments

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<v Speaker 2>that are knee deep, like I mean, like like armpits

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<v Speaker 2>deep in human rights abuses, having oh, any influence at

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<v Speaker 2>all in this league like none. It's not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't Adam Silver is becoming very unlikable, is he not?

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<v Speaker 2>This is something David Stern would never allow and Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Silver just wants to do everything he.

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<v Speaker 1>Can to grow and expand the.

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<v Speaker 2>Revenue of this league. And I tell you what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not fucking here for it. Am I too cynical? Am

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<v Speaker 2>I too cynical? Let me know your thoughts. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>one to hit the panic button. But is the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>headed for a lockout? Way sooner than anyone expected? Because

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<v Speaker 2>rutt Row, everyone knows that the current CBA is set

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<v Speaker 2>to expire at the end of the season. What most

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<v Speaker 2>people don't know, however, is that there is a super

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<v Speaker 2>secret opt out agreement from either side that actually the

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<v Speaker 2>timetable on is December fifteenth. That is, folks, seven days

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<v Speaker 2>from when this episode is being recorded, an early warning

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<v Speaker 2>that yeah, we're done on the year. This is it,

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<v Speaker 2>like after this season? Uh, time for us to start

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<v Speaker 2>renegotiation right, not this not next season, but this season?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Stein broke it down perfectly. He said, an opt

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<v Speaker 2>out from either side in the next nine days will

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<v Speaker 2>sound immediate alarm bells because A it essentially breaks the

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<v Speaker 2>contract effective at the end of this season, and B

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<v Speaker 2>it's a measure that instantly makes the threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a lockout tangible.

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<v Speaker 2>Tangible means you can feel it in your hands, means

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<v Speaker 2>actually is real. According to reports, the NBA and the

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<v Speaker 2>NBPA are nowhere near a deal and there could now

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<v Speaker 2>be big time warning signs that all is not well

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<v Speaker 2>in Adam Silverland. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is that the un owners have started taking a

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<v Speaker 2>very hard look and stance on what they call the

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<v Speaker 2>upper spending limit, just another fancy term for a hard

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<v Speaker 2>salary cap, right and there is no way, no way

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<v Speaker 2>that the NBPA is going to allow that, none.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero.

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<v Speaker 2>There are other issues as well on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>how moving the age limit back to eighteen will affect

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<v Speaker 2>rookie scale contracts, but all that ship pails in comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>To the hard cap. Honestly, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about our Warriors. They don't want that shit

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<v Speaker 2>no more. No, no, no, no, you can't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Lacup Lake Ups are fucking this up. The Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>are projected to have a team payroll right now, including

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<v Speaker 2>the luxury tax of four hundred and eighty three million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars next season, and is forcing nearly every owner in

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<v Speaker 2>order to compete to keep up.

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<v Speaker 1>Which listen, as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fan, I'm fine with fine, Just make the rights deals

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<v Speaker 2>go up more, make the TV contracts go up more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pay more for League Pass. You can pay those

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<v Speaker 1>players more.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a result, me as a media member, my

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<v Speaker 2>paycheck goes up too. So I'm not mad about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the player empowerment era. I love them

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<v Speaker 2>getting as much money as they can in life changing

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<v Speaker 2>generational wealth even though they don't pay anything except for

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<v Speaker 2>their team issued gear that they take.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on like, I'm fine with that. I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's a shocking step. According to spot track, only

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<v Speaker 2>five teams in the end entire NBA are currently under

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<v Speaker 2>the salary cap.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a guess at who they are. Take a guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a guess. Take a guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Orlando, Detroit, Indiana, San Antonio, and the only one that

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<v Speaker 2>shocks me is Memphis. Why why does that happen is

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<v Speaker 2>because John Morant is still currently on his rookie deal,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he's already signed his extension. The other twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five teams ranged from twelve million dollars over to seventy

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<v Speaker 2>eight million dollars over the salary cap. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>what the owners want to shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want that. Do you think they want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay extra.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they do not, even though they end up getting

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<v Speaker 2>more from the rights deal. I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>They just don't like paying players. At some point, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars per year is what they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay. We're up to like sixty six for Damian

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<v Speaker 2>Lillard or something like that. Two years for one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty seven million dollars. That's where we're up to.

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<v Speaker 2>When I talked to Jerry West, he said there will

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<v Speaker 2>be a time in our lifetime. So he said, in

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<v Speaker 2>his lifetime, someone's gonna get a hundred million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>MVPA.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna want to protect that. They want their players

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<v Speaker 2>to get paid. They want their players to get paid

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<v Speaker 2>with their worth. And the NBA continues to get more popular,

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<v Speaker 2>it expands, sovereign wealth funds start to buy in, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, anything's possible when it comes at So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think either side is stupid enough to fuck

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<v Speaker 2>this up. With media rights coming up in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, the year after the new labor.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreement would go into place.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen, if the owners stick to a hard cat, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>we might reach NBA arm again sooner than later. Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Missoula maybe the most interesting coach in the NBA right

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<v Speaker 2>now outside of like, did you guys see the Royal

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<v Speaker 2>family quote that he had.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't even talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit religion and the oh God can't do it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Missoula gave his first interview to Mark Spears about the

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<v Speaker 2>Emi Udoka drama. It is a fascinating insight into who

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<v Speaker 2>is running the ship there. Let's face it, there was

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<v Speaker 2>no way Missoula thought he was gonna be a head

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<v Speaker 2>coach this early in his career, at least in Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>He admitted this.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, yeah, I've always had faith I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be an MBA head coach. I believed in myself,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know what was gonna happen this fast.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what was gonna happen in Boston. There's

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<v Speaker 2>probably some sort of like thank God for this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like Jesus is supporting me and looking down on me,

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<v Speaker 2>But how did he find out about the e May's situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks, by the way, Real Side wrote, everybody when

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<v Speaker 2>things happen to them, that's good. It's like God did

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<v Speaker 2>this for me, So he did this against the other

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<v Speaker 2>people too, Like it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>God wanted us to win.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like some divine lord's plan for why the Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Celtics made it to the final or why you ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being the head coach?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, did.

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<v Speaker 2>God step in and have em Udoka fuck somebody on

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<v Speaker 2>the team so you get this job? Is that God's will?

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<v Speaker 2>Get the fuck out of here? Anyway, Let's keep going

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<v Speaker 2>before I get canceled. How did he find out about

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<v Speaker 2>the e May situation? And what were ain't Joe's thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>when this came up? It was like, it is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. There's nothing I can do about it. The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I can control is how I just go,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I know that for my wife and for

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<v Speaker 2>my family, we're supposed to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're supposed to God's will for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith is really important, and we felt like we follow

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<v Speaker 2>God's plan to.

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<v Speaker 1>A t as where he wanted us to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, this is ridiculous and it wasn't even a thought.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have time to contemplate.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, no way, him reverencing his wife and being a

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<v Speaker 2>family man and being a man of God is not

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<v Speaker 2>like a direct shot at Emai Udoka.

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<v Speaker 3>Siner, sinner, shame shame, Like if Joe Mizula had to

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<v Speaker 3>stone email Udoka to death for this job, would he

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<v Speaker 3>do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, let's be honest. Additionally, he says he hasn't communicated

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<v Speaker 1>with Ema.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, he hasn't commune unicated with I may think

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<v Speaker 2>he's willing to turn his back on the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>made him an assistant coach because why sinner sinner?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, he said he hasn't talked to him because after

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<v Speaker 2>he got suspended, it was like, we're not allowed to communicate.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody believe that? Shit? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Does anybody believe you can't communicate with your colleague to

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<v Speaker 2>be like yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Big ups man, Like I hope you're doing okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, he's like willing to throw the stones and get

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<v Speaker 2>ahead because it's predestined.

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<v Speaker 1>Missoula, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Has one hundred percent taken advantage of this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>He has made the Celtics a really good team. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a very good coach.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no share to him because he has been doing

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<v Speaker 2>a good job in times of turmoil. They're clearly top

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<v Speaker 2>two team in the NBA. They pounded the Suns by

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<v Speaker 2>what forty two nights ago forty They are a favorite

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<v Speaker 2>to win the title.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is a fascinating dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where we're at in society where this

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<v Speaker 2>is like it's starting to come front and center, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his sovereign wealth funds like or the doc's religion, Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is starting.

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<v Speaker 1>To get crazy. He was asked last week what it

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<v Speaker 1>was like to play.

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<v Speaker 2>In front of royalty because the Prince and Princess of

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<v Speaker 2>Wales were in attendance, and he said the only royal

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<v Speaker 2>family he acknowledges is Jesus, Mary and Joseph. That was

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<v Speaker 2>not ironic, by the way, Like that was like dead

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<v Speaker 2>ass serious And he looked at him like why would

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<v Speaker 2>you even question that? And I'm fine with anti royal

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<v Speaker 2>family rhetoric, totally fine with that given all the human

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<v Speaker 2>rights abuses they've been up to, but like, the only

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<v Speaker 2>only royal family I acknowledge is Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what else would you expect though? From a branch off

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<v Speaker 2>of the bub Huggins coaching tree. When asked what advice

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<v Speaker 2>Huggy gave him, Missoula said, don't fuck it. Up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Just don't screw it up. And that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason I think he's successful is, like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>is his philosophy. And it's not rocket science. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what he told Spears. The NBA is a league. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a basketball league. The Celtics, if you take away

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<v Speaker 2>all that, it's just basketball leadership and management. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the same kind of systems, conversations, environments that you're cultivating

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<v Speaker 2>at the division at any level, is the same that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do here. There are just more people

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention. And you know what he's got, He's got

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<v Speaker 2>my attention right now, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta keep an eye on him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still got the interim coach title attached to his name,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll see how that goes. And it's a shock,

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<v Speaker 2>probably considering how well things have gone in Boston that

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<v Speaker 2>it's still the interim title.

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<v Speaker 1>But one thing is for sure. If Boston doesn't lock

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<v Speaker 1>them down

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<v Speaker 2>In the long term for Brooklyn, that smite