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Speaker 1: Chief Schmidt here with the warning, and I am joined

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Speaker 1: tonight by my frank Congressman Joe Walsh writes the Social

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Speaker 1: Contract you can find out a substack. It's a great

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Speaker 1: substack site. I urged you to follow it, to subscribe

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Speaker 1: to it. We'll talk about that phrase, what that means,

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Speaker 1: the social contract, a social compact, and that got broken

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Speaker 1: in America a long time ago, and understanding how it broke,

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Speaker 1: why it broke, when it broke, is KTA understanding why

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Speaker 1: we have a fascist in the White House, Because, as

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Speaker 1: I pointed out early on in this at the beginning

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Speaker 1: because it was strong, but because democracy was weak. It

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Speaker 1: was rotten, it was detained in the whine of republic.

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Speaker 1: We're lucky in America that we have a much stronger democracy, UH,

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Speaker 1: with with much stronger foundations and a history. But it's

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Speaker 1: being tested. And what Trump is, I think is is

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Speaker 1: certainly clear. So we'll talk about that, the social contract,

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Speaker 1: the social compact, talk about citizenship and the meaning of that.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about what's going on in the news, UH,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about specifically an issue UH that's in

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Speaker 1: the news, which is presidential fitness, presidential coherency, and and

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Speaker 1: very specifically let's talk about that with regard to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: who is serially incoherent, uh, inco inconsistent, and and I

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Speaker 1: think let's start with with with right now, when you

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Speaker 1: look at this trip across the Middle East and you

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Speaker 1: see the disrespect from the Trump cabinet officials before the

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Speaker 1: Article one branch of government, before the Congress, when you

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Speaker 1: see the lion, when you see the law breaking, when

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Speaker 2: And so I just like, how did.

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Speaker 1: You see it when you watch all of this?

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Speaker 3: First off, Steve Smith, damn good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Brother, Thank you for all you do. Look, Trump believes

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Speaker 2: he's an untouchable.

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Speaker 3: He believes you said it, Steve. He believes he can

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Speaker 3: anything he wants to do. And again, don't take this wrong.

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Speaker 3: In a way, I can't blame him. The son of

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Speaker 2: He didn't pay a price for that.

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Speaker 3: He committed crimes trying to overthrow an American election, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's an idiot.

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Speaker 3: But Steve, if that were me and I got reelected,

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Speaker 1: so what, Congressman, what what the fuck do we do here?

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Speaker 1: What's the next round of questions? Like what's the what's

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Speaker 3: What's the question, Steve, That's a great question, and I

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Speaker 2: And every single one of.

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Speaker 3: His picks to be in his cabinet was asked, point blank,

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Speaker 3: did Donald Trump lose the twenty twenty election? Did Joe

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Speaker 3: So I'd start with a question where you know they're

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Speaker 2: It should be centered on what Congress should be doing.

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Speaker 3: just keep pounding, Steve. I think the Democrat's biggest problem

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Speaker 3: I want them to sound like just somebody who's fucking

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what the summer, Steve, I think

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Speaker 3: as the weather gets warmer. These protests are growing very organically,

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Speaker 1: These have to be peaceful protests. The opposition has to

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Speaker 1: Point when you hear think about this moment, right there's

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Speaker 3: Look, Democrats have to decide if they want to fucking

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm I think our political systems broken. I felt

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Speaker 3: Steve Smith, I'm a weird duck because I'm a reformed

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Speaker 2: My bad.

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Speaker 3: I've publicly apologized that for that for seven years.

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Speaker 2: And brother, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I love the way you put that, Steve, My god,

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to get there.

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Speaker 3: But if they don't, as bad as Trump is, Maga's

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Speaker 3: going to keep winning.

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Speaker 2: I believe that.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that the biggest problem that Democrats

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Speaker 1: have right now is a lack of coherency with leader

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Speaker 1: ship in Washington, DC that can go out and do

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Speaker 1: do three things every day. Right. And so this starts

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Speaker 1: with all the deficiencies around Chuck Schumer right, which have

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Speaker 1: a which have a campaign implication for the next cycle

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Speaker 1: because he's politically incompetent. But in this moment, like tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: at what time tomorrow is the is the Democratic senators

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Speaker 1: coming out to hold a news conference where where they

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Speaker 1: talk about the three biggest things that we got to

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Speaker 1: talk about tomorrow, that is produced with excellence, that has

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Speaker 1: video that is delivered to the American people, that the

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Speaker 1: abuses of power are called out too. There's a fundamental

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Speaker 1: issue that that I just I don't I don't give

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Speaker 1: a fuck. Wehear of polls, right, and and when the

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Speaker 1: more people who know about it, the hire it's in

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Speaker 1: a poll. Right? How what is the ship that Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk took with regard to our data? Right, A full

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Speaker 1: accounting of what these those teams did, what they have,

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Speaker 1: where it is the status of it immediately, right? And

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Speaker 1: and so out of that right, what is the plan

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Speaker 1: for oversight hearings with the Democratic majority in the Senate

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Speaker 1: and the House? What is the what is the plan

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Speaker 1: for hearings around the country? What is the plan for investigation?

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Speaker 1: What is the plan for audit? What is the plan

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Speaker 1: for criminal referral and prosecution? Right? Because there must be

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Speaker 1: accountability for all of this. And by the way, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump asserting a pardon power right after the fact, but

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Speaker 1: I pray the premeditation of a crime I think is

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Speaker 1: challengeable by the next president asserting the same powers that

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Speaker 1: Trump has abused. For a season of accountability before there

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Speaker 1: is a long, long season of presidential restraint. And so

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Speaker 1: there has to be a plan. And then finally, finally,

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Speaker 1: the last thing is to say, what is the use

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Speaker 1: of power right that we that we have right now

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Speaker 1: that we intend to use right to slow this down,

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Speaker 1: to stop it, to demand concessions. What's the plan, right?

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Speaker 1: And so we're going to use our power right to

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Speaker 1: make this stop. And somebody's got to enunciate that from

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Speaker 1: a position of leadership in the House and Senate. And

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Speaker 1: I just like, why is nobody doing that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: What is the what is the what is the malfunction?

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Speaker 3: And Steve everything you just said the Democrats should be

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Speaker 3: doing tomorrow morning, and you're right, it should be filmed,

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Speaker 3: there should be video, It should go out everywhere on

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Speaker 3: social media.

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Speaker 2: My big fucking problem.

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Speaker 3: Is we're one hundred and twenty days in to this

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Speaker 3: fascist regime.

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Speaker 2: Why weren't they doing this on day one?

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Speaker 3: It feels like ten years ago, but you remember everything

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Speaker 3: Trump and Musk.

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Speaker 2: Did on day one and day two and day three.

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Speaker 3: For the life of me, I don't know why the

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Speaker 3: Democrats were caught flat footed.

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Speaker 2: I was I'm not a Democrat.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't the only one out there last year calling

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Speaker 3: Trump a fascist. Kamala Harris said the same damn thing.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden said the same damn thing, and then the

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Speaker 3: fascist wins.

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Speaker 2: We do what Trump and his.

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Speaker 3: People couldn't do in twenty twenty. We acknowledge the result.

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Speaker 3: The American people spoke, We accept the loss, and he won.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris conceited.

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Speaker 3: But you called this man a fascist he is, then

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Speaker 3: you don't go through all the other protocol that Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden and everybody went through. But then you're the Democrats

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Speaker 3: and you believe who he is. From day one, Steve,

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Speaker 3: it seemed like they tried to get along with him.

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Speaker 3: They tried to appease him, They went down to mar

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Speaker 3: A Lago, they tried to coddle him, just be lying

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Speaker 3: everything they said about him last year. And Trump and

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Speaker 3: must didn't give a fuck because from day one they

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Speaker 3: were engaged in their unconstitutional, fascist bullshit. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know why they weren't ready from day one. They should

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Speaker 3: be ready now they need captivating messengers. I don't see

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Speaker 3: anybody on Capitol Hill like that. I think the voices

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Speaker 3: have got to come from out in the country.

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Speaker 1: I think that there are some really exceptional young members

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. I think Jason Crow, I think Jake Auchincloss.

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Speaker 1: I so I look for example. And this is this

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Speaker 1: is my test. So everybody imposes an expectation on you

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Speaker 1: about what it is that you are supposed to believe, right,

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Speaker 1: that comes from a label and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm not supposed to listen to Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: and to say, oh, I agree with every word on that.

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Speaker 1: And I think that what Bernie Sanders is saying right,

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Speaker 1: and what AOC is saying right about the inequality of wealth,

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Speaker 1: about some of the insiderism inside the Democratic Party, that

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Speaker 1: all of these issues about the connection between corruption and autocracy,

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Speaker 1: between fundamental reform and free enterprise. That you know, the

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Speaker 1: person who has the capitalist position in the debate right

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Speaker 1: now is Bernie Sanders. If you believe like I do

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Speaker 1: that FDR. You can debate all day long the economics

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Speaker 1: of the New Deal, whether it was successful or not.

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Speaker 1: But what the New Deal did do is give confidence

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Speaker 1: to people both in the economic system and in the

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Speaker 1: political system when they needed to have confidence at a

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Speaker 1: time where the collapse of confidence led to fashism across Europe. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: so we're seeing a collapse of confidence in the economics system.

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Speaker 1: That's an increase and at the same time that collapse

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Speaker 1: of confidence that that is started and stoked by Trump increases.

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Speaker 1: Trump will is to be asserting political power that is

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Speaker 1: necessary to deal with the loss of confidence and all

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Speaker 1: the issues that come from it on the economy side.

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Speaker 1: So it is a it is a dangerous set of

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Speaker 1: tides that are all coming together now where Trump right

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Speaker 1: is clearly searching for pretext. You look at the overreaction

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Speaker 1: on the seashells and COMI let's lock them up, right,

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Speaker 1: the National Intelligence Director on the slightest pretext to use power,

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Speaker 1: the economic disaster that's now coming and will worsen, and

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Speaker 1: the dis desire right to deploy force. Like, I think

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Speaker 1: all of those things are on the board right, pretty

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Speaker 1: predictable that they're bearing down.

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Speaker 3: You either believe he's a threat to democracy or you don't.

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Speaker 3: You do, Steve Schmidt?

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: Democrats either believe that or they don't.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to argue that they've been acting for the

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Speaker 3: past one hundred days like they believe that. I still

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Speaker 3: think there's a chance they have to. Things are going

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Speaker 3: to get uglier when I say out loud publicly that

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Speaker 3: if politically things look really bad for Trump next year

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Speaker 3: and Republicans that Trump will do everything he can to

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Speaker 3: try to prevent the midterms from happening. You may think

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Speaker 3: I'm a loon for saying that, but I believe that,

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Speaker 3: and I know a lot of Democrats believe that. But Steve,

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Speaker 3: they're afraid to say that. You can't be afraid to

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Speaker 3: say stuff like that. I think the biggest failure of

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Speaker 3: this old Trump era has been the failure of imagination.

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Speaker 3: Like we didn't. We couldn't have imagined thirty years ago

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Speaker 3: that somebody would lose an election and try to overthrow it.

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Speaker 2: He did it.

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Speaker 3: So don't tell me that guy wouldn't try to prevent

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Speaker 3: the midterms from happening somehow, right, prepare for the worst,

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Speaker 3: at least be have the imagination for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's absolutely right. It's September of September of twenty

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Speaker 1: September of twenty As he was talking about I only

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Speaker 1: accept the results of the election, he said it. I said,

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Speaker 1: they'll be violence, and we'll go to the water's edge

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Speaker 1: and we'll see who cloud crosses the rubicon right to

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Speaker 1: that place of And it was everybody right, except for

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Speaker 1: a few few people who crossed to that space denial

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Speaker 1: of an election. And I think that right. This is

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Speaker 1: the great failure of the media. Right. I just saw

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Speaker 1: somebody say the worst is yet to come. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: worst is yet to come. This is the cornerstone of

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Speaker 1: the society. Right, that we pick our leaders, that we

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Speaker 1: choose our leaders. The art that surrounds the Capitol rotunda,

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Speaker 1: one of the most famous pictures is Washington bowing to Congress,

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Speaker 1: subordinating himself, laying down his command when he could have

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Speaker 1: been a caesar, right, draping his military cloak on the

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Speaker 1: biggest chair in the painting, the unseat upon throne. And

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Speaker 1: so this is all fundamental to to who we are. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's like a family of cops that one day Dad

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Speaker 1: comes home and he says, hey, now we're in the

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Speaker 1: bank robbery. Right. I mean I don't right. So it's

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Speaker 1: a total departure, right from every aspect of what we believe.

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Speaker 1: And as soon as it became mainstream to talk about

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Speaker 1: it with indifference attached, it was a crisis.

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Speaker 3: And Steve sort of in the Democrats' defense, Trump is

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Speaker 3: so bad and so dishonest, and so lawless, and so

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Speaker 3: ignorant and so corrupt and so cruel. And every day

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Speaker 3: Trump does a thousand bad ugly, Unamerican, treasonous things. Over

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Speaker 3: the years, Democrats have really just felt like all we

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Speaker 3: got to do is say.

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Speaker 2: Trump is bad, baby, and we're gonna win.

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Speaker 3: All we got to do is say Trump bad, Trump bad,

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Speaker 3: Trump bad, and will win. So Democrats haven't had to

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Speaker 3: do the hard work of writing themselves and who are

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Speaker 3: they and what do.

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Speaker 2: They stand for? I think, and I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I know your take on this, Steve Schmith.

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Speaker 3: I think November, this past November dispelled the notion forever

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Speaker 3: more that Democrats can just win by saying Trump bad.

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Speaker 3: They gotta fucking be something and stand for something, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think they know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Yet.

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Speaker 1: There was this moment that I thought was like really incredible,

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Speaker 1: and it was when Chuck Schumer came out after Bob Menendez,

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Speaker 1: from my home state of New Jersey, was indicted with

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Speaker 1: gold bars sewn into the suit jacket, and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, Bob Menendez has been a great representative for

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Speaker 1: the people to New Jersey, right, And that's that's the

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Speaker 1: that's the issue, right, is that you have to have

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Speaker 1: a first off, the Democratic Party doesn't function as a

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Speaker 1: national party because it is disenfranchised and disinvested from forty

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Speaker 1: states that are in the United States. Right, So like

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Speaker 1: we can't we can't treat North Dakota, South Dakota, and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma like their suriname Eritrea right and Nigeria right. These

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Speaker 1: are these are places in the United States and filled

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Speaker 1: with Americans who are being failed by MAGA governments at

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Speaker 1: at an epic level. And if you don't have outreach,

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Speaker 1: if you don't meet people where they are, if you

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Speaker 1: have a politics of ignoring and disdaining and condescending, right,

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Speaker 1: it triggers the voter response of go fuck yourself. And

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Speaker 1: it happens one hundred percent of the time. And so

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Speaker 1: you have to have a rest duration of connection. And

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Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two, the Democratic Party needs to

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Speaker 1: have a plan to set things right, which means fundamental reform, corruption, ethics,

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Speaker 1: all of these things to be dealt with. A recision

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Speaker 1: of presidential authority and power or return to regular order.

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Speaker 1: How you pass an appropriations bill, how you pass a bill,

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Speaker 1: fundamental change campaign finance law. There has to be some

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Speaker 1: type of consideration given to appropriate public content and media

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Speaker 1: in a free society on public airwaves. There has to

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Speaker 1: be a change in a libel law that that does

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Speaker 1: not permit the full on smearing and assault on the

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Speaker 1: on the truth. UH. There's a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: have to be done. There has to be a confrontation

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Speaker 1: with concentrations of power and money, breaking up big companies

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Speaker 1: that have grown far too powerful, privacy legislation, medical legislation,

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Speaker 1: anybody who has gone through customs with the UH with

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Speaker 1: the AI driven face scanner. Right, this this part of

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Speaker 1: our future. We have to the American people have to

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Speaker 1: take control of it. So so there has to be

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Speaker 1: a comprehensive thinking through of a freedom agenda, right that

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Speaker 1: has privacy as a prosperity component. And that's what Democrats

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Speaker 1: have to be, right. They have to be the freedom party, right,

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Speaker 1: and they have to be the human being party, and

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Speaker 1: they have to be the party that has tolerance for

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Speaker 1: a broad coalition, and they have an empower and strain

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Speaker 1: that runs through the party that is anesthetical to the

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Speaker 1: achievement of those goals in a two party system. So, right,

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Speaker 1: this is the place we're at, right, And that's that's

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Speaker 1: what we got to figure out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And it's so ironic Steve that you said they

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Speaker 3: got to be the Freedom Party because I believe that.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was.

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Speaker 3: There when sort of we helped launch the Freedom Caucus

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Speaker 3: in the House. And the Freedom Caucus now is the

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Speaker 3: Trump Caucus. So the Republican Party has abandoned all notions

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Speaker 3: of freedom. I was a Republican from the very beginning

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Speaker 3: because I always believed in kind of freedom, limited government,

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Speaker 3: free trade and all the rest. This Republican Party has

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Speaker 3: abandoned all of that.

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Speaker 1: It's an obedience caucus.

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Speaker 3: Yes, look, Democrats, America, this may bother you, but America

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Speaker 3: knowingly chose the asshole in November over you. They chose

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Speaker 3: the asshole over you. So figure that out. We we

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Speaker 3: we are. We are very much.

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Speaker 2: In an anti establishment era.

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Speaker 3: And I loved everything that Steve Schmidt just said about reforms,

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Speaker 3: privacy reforms, government reforms, election reforms. You're right, Steve, the

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Speaker 3: Democrats ought to herald a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what at the at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, we've seen a couple of instances in our

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Speaker 1: adult lives where where places and things that we have

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Speaker 1: a deep attachment to are gone. The World Trade Center

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Speaker 1: in New York, and so in the immediate aftermath, people say, well,

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Speaker 1: we got to rebuild exactly what was there, and that

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Speaker 1: almost never happens, right, It's it's not going to happen

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Speaker 1: in Pacific palis Ades with the community that burned down.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to happen with regard to what Trump

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Speaker 1: is burned to the ground. Inside, inside the federal government,

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Speaker 1: what fractured. So right, when Democrats come to power, there's

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Speaker 1: going to have to be an assessment of what happened,

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Speaker 1: who did what, accountability for law breaking, but also how

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Speaker 1: do you deliver a service that delivers a dollar value

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Speaker 1: for a dollar spent? Does the program that reaches the

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Speaker 1: poor kid deliver a service to the poor kid? Because

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Speaker 1: what was burned down that existed pre Trump is gone,

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Speaker 1: it's gone, right, and so what will come after it

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Speaker 1: has to be thoughtful, has to be sustainable, has to

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Speaker 1: be able to deliver a service and make the delivery

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Speaker 1: of that service is popular. If you're the party that

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Speaker 1: stands for the proposition that government can do things, then

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Speaker 1: you have to be the party that demands competence from government.

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Speaker 1: And so perfect example of this is in California, many

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Speaker 1: many billions of dollars has been spent on high speed

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Speaker 1: rail for twenty five years. There's not one foot of

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Speaker 1: track that exists, that's been laid down billions of dollars, right,

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Speaker 1: and so why would anyone defend that? Why would anybody

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Speaker 1: defend that? And it's ridiculous to have to defend it

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Speaker 1: and feel like you have to because of a magic

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Speaker 1: letter next to your name. And that's what has to

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Speaker 1: be thrown out the window. All of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, and Steve, a lot of this, though, is the

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Speaker 3: issues Democrats need to rethink where they are on some issues.

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Speaker 3: What you just said high speed rail, spot on. Where

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Speaker 3: is all the housing in this country being built in

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Speaker 3: Red states? Manufacturing is booming in the South. Democrats need

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Speaker 3: to wake up to this. I come from Illinois. What's

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Speaker 3: going on in Illinois?

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Speaker 2: What's going on in California?

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Speaker 3: This is a real problem. The issue, Steve, of immigration.

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Speaker 3: When I campaigned for Harris in every battleground state every

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Speaker 3: day for three months, I heard more about the issue

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Speaker 3: of immigration than any other issue. And yeah, Trump demigogue's

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Speaker 3: the fucking issue. And he lies about it because he

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Speaker 3: tries to scare people. They're eating cats and dogs. They're

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Speaker 3: eating cats and dogs. Utter lies in bullshit. But the

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Speaker 3: Democrats kind of ignored the issue. They didn't even talk

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Speaker 3: about or look the other way when it came to

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Speaker 3: the border. So even on that issue, Steve, a lot

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Speaker 3: of regular Americans said, I'm going to vote for the

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Speaker 3: guy who's lying to me about immigrant He's lying to

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Speaker 3: me about these migrants because the other party doesn't even

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Speaker 3: acknowledge that this is an issue we need to do

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Speaker 3: something about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a really it's an incredible issue

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Speaker 1: that sums up I think a lot of this moment

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Speaker 1: and where we got to. I was always an outspoken

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Speaker 1: advocate for immigration reform. Right. That was, you know, essentially

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Speaker 1: the McCain plan, which is I understood it, the issue,

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Speaker 1: the issue. Here's what the issue was, as that that

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Speaker 1: I thought reasonable people could could could sit and come

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Speaker 1: together on this, which was this at the time, was

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Speaker 1: we have about eleven million people in the country illegally,

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Speaker 1: and the reason that they're here illegally is because our

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Speaker 1: economy function and with them, not without them. So we

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Speaker 1: tolerate this, We've looked away. So why are they here?

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Speaker 1: They're here because of us. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: do something about this and secure the border, right, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: And what the votes existed was to basically say, you

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Speaker 1: people here illegally got to pay a fine. You've got

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Speaker 1: to go to the back of the line. You may

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Speaker 1: be eligible to get a green card like fifteen years

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Speaker 1: from now and become a citizen seven years after that. Right,

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Speaker 1: I love going to new citizen ceremonies, right, I think

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Speaker 1: they're an incredible thing to go to. But that compromise

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Speaker 1: fell apart because when the Republicans were in charge, Democrats

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Speaker 1: didn't want to give them a victory. When Democrats were

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Speaker 1: in charge, Republicans didn't want to give them a victory,

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Speaker 1: and everyone played politics, and over time, right, the issue

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Speaker 1: lost all nuanced, and so the choice became we're either

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Speaker 1: going to have no border or we're gonna have right,

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Speaker 1: I guess ice Barbie and mass deportations. And so in

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Speaker 1: the choice between no border and ice barbe and deportations,

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Speaker 1: I know what side wins that to be, and it's

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Speaker 1: the ice bar beside. It's the well, we're going to

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Speaker 1: kick everybody out, right, because we can't have this. And

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Speaker 1: so what Democrats have to be able to do is

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Speaker 1: to meet the American people where they are and to

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Speaker 1: appreciate that everybody who's voting in an election is an

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Speaker 1: American citizen and whether their third generation Hispanic or second

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Speaker 1: generation Hispanic or from wherever. Just like everybody, the majority

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Speaker 1: of the country wants the immigration laws enforced, and they

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Speaker 1: don't like the abuse that Trump's doing. But the alternative

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Speaker 1: to what's Trump doing is not an open border, it's

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Speaker 1: a humane enforcement of a sane border policy. And that's

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Speaker 1: the bar that Democrats have to meet in order to

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Speaker 1: ask for power to govern the country and to have

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Speaker 1: a remedy for this. I mean, it's as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: What Democrats have to ask for is power to make

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Speaker 1: things stop it shouldn't be happening, which does not mean

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Speaker 1: getting a green light to do things that are reciprocal

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Speaker 1: of this that no one wants to see happen on

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Speaker 1: the opposite side of the coin. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: what else to say beyond that.

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Speaker 3: And they're Democrats are lucky, Steve, because you're right with

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Speaker 3: this issue of immigration, Trump's taking the pendulum and he's

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Speaker 3: running so far in that direction. We're disappearing people off

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Speaker 3: the streets and deporting innocent people. So he's given a

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Speaker 3: great opening to Democrats to be where you advocated years

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Speaker 3: ago they be Trump's doing that with every issue, the transgender,

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Speaker 3: every issue. He and MAGA are so extreme that if

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Speaker 3: Democrats can just nudge a little bit over here on

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Speaker 3: every single one of these issues, they can grab most Americans.

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Speaker 1: For example, tomorrow there should be a news conference that

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Speaker 1: kicks off with Democratic senators and talk about mister Obrego

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Speaker 1: and say, for instance, that we insist this administration followed

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decision. Excuse me for one second. I

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Speaker 1: have a thirteen year old black lab. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: let him out of this room. He wanted to come in.

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Speaker 1: Hang on right, good guy, he had heard enough.

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Speaker 2: That's a thirteen year old black lab.

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Speaker 1: That's a thirteen year old black lab. So he was

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Speaker 1: he had had enough of our He had first Smith right.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like I would say, oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: happy we get to talk about this, and I literally

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Speaker 1: have a guy on a dolly dressed up like Hannibal Lecter,

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Speaker 1: and I would play a clip from Trump at one

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Speaker 1: of the rallies, and I would roll out the Hannibal

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Speaker 1: Lecter guy right like on the on the dolly with

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Speaker 1: the mask and the whole thing in the straight jacket,

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Speaker 1: and I would say, we got him right. This is right.

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Speaker 1: We caught him earlier today. Right, this is Trump's guy here, right,

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Speaker 1: Hannibal Lecter, and that Trump was talking about with the

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Speaker 1: cats and the dogs, and'd be like, here's the great

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Speaker 1: thing about America, right, there's two great things right that

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Speaker 1: we got going for us in our time of trouble. Right,

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Speaker 1: right that even Hannibal elector here, he gets to stand

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Speaker 1: in front of a judge. Right, he's got that going

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Speaker 1: for him. And if he gets kidnapped by Somali pirates,

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Speaker 1: the Navy seals are coming together. Right, those are two

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Speaker 1: things we have going for us right as a people.

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Speaker 1: And so Hannibal elector or not, he gets to stand

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Speaker 1: in front of a jury, right, he gets to stand

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Speaker 1: in front of a judge. He gets to stand in

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Speaker 1: a courtroom, and he gets due process. And we don't

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Speaker 1: have people who go on Fox News, right, who are

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Speaker 1: the national Intelligence director or the national director of this

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Speaker 1: that or the other, the FBI director or the Homeland

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Speaker 1: Security Cabinet secretary and say, oh, that person should be

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Speaker 1: in jail because Trump hates them.

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Speaker 3: Bullshit, Steve, Steve, it's it's part of my language. It's

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Speaker 3: fucking evil. Got what department? But it was just revealed

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Speaker 3: today that in that first planeload of two hundred and

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Speaker 3: sum people that we deported to that El Salvador jail,

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Speaker 3: our government now is acknowledging that at least fifty of

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Speaker 3: those people entered this country legally, legally, and we snagged

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Speaker 3: them and sent them to an El Salvador jail.

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Speaker 2: That's evil.

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Speaker 1: Where are the filing of state kidnapping charges. Where is

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Speaker 1: the international NGO community, Where is the Catholic Church? Where

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Speaker 1: is the civil society in the country who is not

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Speaker 1: speaking up to this? And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: we're what we're witnessing in our Salvador, right, it's really

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Speaker 1: important to talk about is that we're we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to talk about this as a society, right and and

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be somebody sitting on CNN he says, well,

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Speaker 1: it's time not to talk about this today or it's

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Speaker 1: the wrong time, right.

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Speaker 3: But we are.

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Speaker 1: Involved as a nation in a cash transaction with the

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Speaker 1: dictator of our Salvador that speak that that sends to

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Speaker 1: a concentration camp. People that have been abducted from American

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Speaker 1: soil without due process, including people who may be in

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Speaker 1: the country legally right, have been ordered to be returned

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Speaker 1: by the by the Supreme Court. Is that is that

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Speaker 1: we are sending people right and involved in a cash

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Speaker 1: transaction and with a dictator who essentially buys them from

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Speaker 1: the United States. And so what we're seeing is an

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Speaker 1: active evil and it's happening, and it's being done in

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Speaker 1: our name, and it is illegal under American law, it

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Speaker 1: is illegal under the UN Human Rights Charter. We are

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Speaker 1: involved and engaged as a nation and illegal and inhumane

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Speaker 1: activity that the people in this administration are willfully, knowingly

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Speaker 1: and premeditatively engaged and with full knowledge that it's against

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Speaker 1: America's treaty obligations, against America's law because they say they

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Speaker 1: are above the law. And so this election in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six is a profoundly important one because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that we're gonna put a check on him, right

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Speaker 1: or we're not. But the failure to put an overwhelming

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Speaker 1: check on Donald Trump will mean for Donald Trump that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be able to assert power in ways

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Speaker 1: that are a nightmare for three hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 1: people who think they live in a free country.

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Speaker 3: We did not put a check on him after he

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Speaker 3: tried to overthrow an American election.

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Speaker 2: How we doing now? How we doing now America?

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Speaker 3: So you're right, Steve, My god, so he thinks he's invincible.

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Speaker 3: Now that's how you and I began our conversation. If

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Speaker 3: we don't put a check on him in twenty six,

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Speaker 3: forget about it, forget about it. And it's up to

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Speaker 3: the Democrats right now. And we are all somehow Democrats

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Speaker 3: right now. But my god, you and I just spent

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Speaker 3: Steve Smith four minutes, five minutes talking about raw, ugly

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Speaker 3: evil this country, putting people in this country legally on

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Speaker 3: an airplane, throwing them in an El Salvador jail. Listen

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Speaker 3: to how pissed off, righteously pissed off you.

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Speaker 2: And I are. I want to hear that from Democratic

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Speaker 2: elected officials.

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Speaker 1: Damn it, we hear it from some right And I

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Speaker 1: want to and I want to say, I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to throw some names. You got Jason Crowe,

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Speaker 1: you got Jake Auchincloss. You have Abigail Spamberger in Virginia,

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Speaker 1: Mikey Sheryl, you have Joscelyn Benson in Michigan. You have

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Speaker 1: Mallory mcmarrow in Michigan. You have candidates all over the country,

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Speaker 1: and the Democratic Party. And the line that you should

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Speaker 1: look at is not some artificial line, it's some meaningless term. Right,

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Speaker 1: they're progressive or they're conservative or this. They either have

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Speaker 1: fighting spirit or they do not. They're either faithful to

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Speaker 1: the US Constitution or they are not. They're either going

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Speaker 1: to lift the flag up higher they're not. And they're

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Speaker 1: either tolerant. Right for all the rest of us who

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Speaker 1: are with our hands out saying hey, we'll fight with

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Speaker 1: you against these people who want to take away power,

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Speaker 1: want to take away rights, We want to take away

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Speaker 1: the fundamental blessings of liberty from from our fellow Americans.

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Speaker 1: And we won't. We won't tolerate it. And so that's

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Speaker 1: that's the calling of this moment, is to say that

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Speaker 1: we won't tolerate this. Uh, we won't abide it, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna oppose it. And I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to turn over to you for that, and

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about one last thang, whige is

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Speaker 1: this military parade, and then we'll wrap it.

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Speaker 3: I just I just want to because Steve, I so

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Speaker 3: fucking loved what you just said. I want to echo it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a progressive, but I don't give a fly.

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Speaker 3: And you know what if, if if, if the democratic

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Speaker 3: voice is far left or centrist, I could care less,

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Speaker 3: just like you where it comes from.

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Speaker 2: You're either fighting or you're not.

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Speaker 3: You're either in there defending this democracy in the rule

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Speaker 3: of law or you're not. And I don't give you

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Speaker 3: a damn if you're far left or somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 1: No, And I've and listen, I've evolved on my view

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Speaker 1: on taxation. With these guys who are worth two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty billion dollars, we got to think about how

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Speaker 1: it is we're going to take a lot of their

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Speaker 1: shit from them, right as a society, as as a people,

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Speaker 1: enough is enough. We have to recalibrate what we need

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Speaker 1: to do. So one thing that is happening on June

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Speaker 1: fourteenth is a day of desecration. This is just a

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Speaker 1: tragic day, Flag Day. Of course, it's the birth of

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Speaker 1: the United States Army, which is turning two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty years old, and so this is a year of

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Speaker 1: for Found anniversaries. We kicked off the two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary cycle of the country with Paul Revere's Midnight

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Speaker 1: Run with the battles of Lexington conquered Bunker Hill. We

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Speaker 1: have the anniversaries of the US Navy, the Marine Corps

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Speaker 1: of the US Army, and the Washington assumes command and

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Speaker 1: the Army is formed a few days later two regiments,

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Speaker 1: and that is going to be turned into a dear

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Speaker 1: Leader parade. Right the greatest force for liberation in the

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Speaker 1: history of the world, the American Army, and the American

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Speaker 1: Army is going to be desecrated on June the fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: as you see American soldiers forts to participate in this

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Speaker 1: most un American spectacle. How do you think about it

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Speaker 1: on June the fourteenth, Well, we're going to see how

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Speaker 1: should people feel about this? I feel like it's a

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Speaker 1: desecrative event, a shameful event, a dishonorable event. The soldiers

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Speaker 1: who are forced to march in it or not. Service

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Speaker 1: in the military is not They serve the Constitution, not

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Speaker 1: a man. But what needs to be said about this

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Speaker 1: as we get ready to witness this, because there's some

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Speaker 1: important things that need to be said around this event,

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Speaker 1: which is at every one of those men and women

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Speaker 1: wearing the uniform of the country don't serve the president.

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Speaker 1: They serve the American people, and they wore an oat

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Speaker 1: to the Constitution, not to Donald Trump. And that's what's

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Speaker 1: special about the United States. I can't I think we've

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Speaker 1: lost you here on the mute.

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Speaker 2: Steve Schmidt. You nailed it.

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Speaker 3: It's a desecration and it should every American sad and

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Speaker 3: every American angry. Because Donald Trump envisions a day where

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Speaker 3: he's like Kim Jong owner, he's putin and you've got

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Speaker 3: these soldiers and tanks marching by, kicking up all saluting him.

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Speaker 3: It should piss off every American. But I'll also bring

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Speaker 3: this up, Steve, June fourteenth is also the next big

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Speaker 3: nationwide protest day. It's a no King's protest day, and

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Speaker 3: there are going to be again millions and millions of

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Speaker 3: Americans out in every city and community in the country

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Speaker 3: protesting against what this guy is in the White House

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Speaker 3: and just embracing that basic principle that we don't have

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Speaker 3: kings in America. So June fourteenth is also going to

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Speaker 3: be a big protest day.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're going to protest the King, remember this.

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Speaker 1: Everybody burning the king and effigy is not an act

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Speaker 1: of violence. It's an active speech. It's an active dissent.

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Speaker 1: If you do it, though, make sure you talk to

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Speaker 1: your local fire department and fire all follow all local

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Speaker 1: fire code. But right, you know, someone out there somewhere

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Speaker 1: right is going to burn right the king or folk King,

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Speaker 1: our dime store, Mussolini in effigy. And it's not an

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Speaker 1: assault on the nation. It's not a national security event.

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Speaker 1: It's an act of it's an active speech. And in

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Speaker 1: this country, on this night, when Donald Trump is threatening

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Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen and Fance and threatening Bono and Oprah and

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Speaker 1: anyone who dared oppose him, trying to intimidate dissent, well

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Speaker 1: I want to say to all of you, don't let

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Speaker 1: it intimidate you. You're an American. Rights are not privileges.

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Speaker 1: Their rights they don't come from Donald Trump. They come

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Speaker 1: from the air you breathe them in when you took

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Speaker 1: your first breath on American soil. And you are an American,

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Speaker 1: and you are free, and you are free to assert

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Speaker 1: your conscience, to assert your rights, to speech, the petition

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Speaker 1: the government, to worship as you please. And when you

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Speaker 1: see the jackbooted government thugs of this administration trampling on

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Speaker 1: people's rights, when you see it being done to the

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Speaker 1: least of us, appreciate it's being done to all of us.

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Speaker 1: When you see it being done to the most prominent

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Speaker 1: of us, like Bruce Springsteen or Oprah, appreciate that it's

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Speaker 1: being targeted at them, because if it can be done

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Speaker 1: to them, it can be done to any of us.

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Speaker 1: And so when you see people targeting the least of

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Speaker 1: us and some of the people that have the most fearlessly,

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Speaker 1: with arrogance, unrestrained, take it seriously, but do not be

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Speaker 1: afraid of it. Appreciate that there is nothing they can

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Speaker 1: do against all of us together, that they are a

1011
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Speaker 1: small minority. And that's what this thugocracy is. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is sustained by a court of thousands and an inner

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Speaker 1: court of hundreds, not a movement of millions. And so

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Speaker 1: the American people are going to be woken up. The

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Speaker 1: American people are going to be stirred. The American people

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Speaker 1: are going to have to face the danger. And we

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Speaker 1: have always done that. Whinston Churchill observed about us before

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Speaker 1: I give it over to Joe to take us home,

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Speaker 1: that Americans in the end usually do the right thing,

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Speaker 1: although we'll wait till the last possible moment to do it.

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Speaker 1: So with that, let me go over to Joe Walsh

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Speaker 1: and ask you to bring us home tonight and say

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Speaker 1: good night to everybody, and thank you so much. We

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Speaker 1: can find you again on substack at the Social contract.

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Speaker 1: In the social contract in America has always been this

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Speaker 1: notion that we hand it off a little bit better,

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Speaker 1: a little bit stronger, to the next generation to keep

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Speaker 1: on keeping on with the work of perfecting the union.

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Speaker 1: So that's what the work of America has always been.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Social Contract has always been. Joe Walsh

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Speaker 1: a great champion of it, an important voice in this moment,

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Speaker 1: and it was great to have you on tonight, Joe,

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Speaker 1: and please say goodnight to everybody. We have two thousand

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Speaker 1: people and then many more see it in the in

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Speaker 1: the aftermath, and so you know, give them the final

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Speaker 1: word if you would.

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Speaker 2: I shall.

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Speaker 3: Steve Schmidt, thank you, my friend, for inviting me on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for everything you do. Thank you Steve.

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Speaker 3: Schmidt for being a consistent voice. We need a lot

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Speaker 3: more of that. Look, I'll echo what Steve said, don't

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Speaker 3: be afraid, don't be afraid, don't be afraid.

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Speaker 2: And I'll closed with this. We're lucky.

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Speaker 3: We are not every generation of Americans has had the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to fight to defend this thing.

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Speaker 2: Look at it that way.

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Speaker 3: I know it seems like it sucks right now, but

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Speaker 3: we have an opportunity that so many other generations haven't had.

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Speaker 3: We get to fight, scratch and claw to save our democracy.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Steven, thank you so much, and thank you everybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning. I invite you

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Speaker 1: to join this community where I promise to be honest,

1054
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Speaker 1: blunt and direct about what is happening in this country.

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Speaker 1: America is in crisis. Follow and subscribe to this channel

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Speaker 1: and on substack.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.