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Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home?

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Speaker 3: Either way, we want to be there.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim.

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Speaker 4: And give us time and a terminol and gay.

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Speaker 2: We want to send you off in style.

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Speaker 1: We wanna welcome you back home.

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Speaker 4: Tell us all about it.

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Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine?

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Speaker 4: Malcorn?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 5: Do you need to ride? Do your need you ride?

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Speaker 2: Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need

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Speaker 2: to ride?

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Speaker 4: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgaroff.

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Speaker 2: I am got a new record player. Did I tell you.

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Speaker 1: That you didn't? And I'd love to hear about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's uh, you know, it's a record player. It's decent,

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Speaker 3: it sounds good, but it also plays cassette tapes and CDs,

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Speaker 3: and so I'm listening to all my old CDs and

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Speaker 3: I put in I was really excited to find this

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Speaker 3: old hip hop CD Ghetto Boys, and then I it's

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Speaker 3: it's edited Tipper Gore, Oh, who was solely responsible for

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Speaker 3: the parental guidance thing that was like her mission, And I.

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Speaker 2: Looked it up. Did you know she was like a

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Speaker 2: rock drummer and a band called the wild Cats. Yes,

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Speaker 3: They sounded like early Go Gos before our lips are field.

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Speaker 2: She had a passion for rock music, but she hated metal.

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Speaker 4: You know what, that makes perfect sense. She like Hitler

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Speaker 4: being the heartbroken painter that he was. Tipper Gore was

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Speaker 4: a frustrated drummer artist, a drummer.

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Speaker 3: That's hilarious, continue to be. She played with Willie Nelson.

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Speaker 3: She played on a tour with Grateful Dead.

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Speaker 1: Well no no, no.

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Speaker 4: No, someone made up a fake Wikipedia page. You know

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Speaker 4: she's away. There's photos, she's got a headset.

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Speaker 3: She started drumming more when her and what's his global

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Speaker 2: I remember him, of course. I think he's I.

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Speaker 4: Think we'll never forget al Gore, one of the more

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Speaker 3: If he just started talking about the weather when he's

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Speaker 3: Maybe now the Wildcats, there's no way that they were

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Speaker 2: She at least spun the sticks.

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Speaker 4: And I bet you know what it's just like when

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Speaker 4: like girls that were like true gutter punk's slash drug addicts.

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Speaker 4: Found the Lord and wore like, you know, yeah, those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a long denim waterproof skirt first snow skiing

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Speaker 3: in Sometimes there's a girl I went to college with

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Speaker 3: Saw pink, pink, you know, polo dress, like a tennis dress. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: She was no longer irie. Is that what you're telling?

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Speaker 3: She used to be so rary, she had no island vibes.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, she said, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: okay with people going ahead and shaving off blonde dreadlocks.

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Speaker 1: That's okay.

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Speaker 2: You know what. I wasn't sad to see them go.

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Speaker 2: It was her island lifestyle that I missed.

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Speaker 4: It was those island vibes that you wanted back so badly.

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Speaker 3: What if Tipper Gore is like getting older, and she

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Speaker 3: she's like a murder contest. You know, I'll win it

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Speaker 3: every male boxer. I'll be ahead with a knife in it.

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Speaker 3: It's a ghetto boy. That's an actual lyric I used

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Speaker 4: She must because she had to review all those lyrics.

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Speaker 4: That was her job before she put that sticker on

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Speaker 1: But something in.

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Speaker 3: I also found Tom Morello's grandma is a ninety seven

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Speaker 2: Really or as of the writing of an article, she

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Speaker 4: Well, but in her final days she will fight yes

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Speaker 4: for freedom.

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Speaker 2: For her life. I mean, we all do. No one

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Speaker 1: We're all doing it right now, we are are we?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Anyway? Time it is time. I just had to share

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Speaker 2: that Tipper Gore was a rock star.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it, and I think you've been scammed.

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Speaker 4: You know, the internet is a dangerous place.

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Speaker 3: This is the skunk butts on the wall in a

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Speaker 3: bar of music, and I'm not making it up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see, fine.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. Very excited for our guest today, me.

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Speaker 4: Too easy, a classic, one of the greats doing it

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he plays clubs and colleges all over this whole.

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Speaker 1: Country of ours.

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Speaker 5: Never played a college, mostly college.

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Speaker 1: Steve not yet, never played to college.

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Speaker 4: You might know him from the Chatterbox comedy show down there.

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Speaker 1: Coda in playing Covina, just.

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Speaker 5: East of West Covina.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Steve Hernandez.

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Speaker 5: Still great to be here. How are you too?

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Speaker 2: Terrific?

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Speaker 1: Real good? Yeah, man, Steve.

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Speaker 4: Let me just kick this off by saying, you're truly

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite voices on Twitter. You're one of

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Speaker 4: the only reasons I still read Twitter. I'm not really

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Speaker 4: on it that much anymore, but just your pithy little

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Speaker 4: statements all day long are just I really enjoy it

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Speaker 4: because it's very it's sardonic, but then sometimes you're being

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Speaker 5: That's very from coming from the king. That's a high praise.

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Speaker 5: So thank you so much. Yes, yeah, I did notice.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking about you the other day. I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 5: they're not tweeting as much as they used to. So no,

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Speaker 5: you probably made a choice for your mental health, right.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean that's what we have to do sometimes

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Speaker 4: it's not the safest place in the world to be.

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Speaker 4: And also I think I've been doing it for so

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Speaker 4: long that I've especially in quarantine, it started feeling like

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Speaker 4: I was just tweeting one of the fifteen tweets that

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Speaker 4: I tweet. So it's literally like, you know, it's just

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Speaker 4: not that fun or interesting. I don't feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I have.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have some like that that I tweet once

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Speaker 5: a year. There's a couple that I and then some

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Speaker 5: people catch me. Sometimes I do it on purpose to

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Speaker 5: make myself laugh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever actually search for your first tweets in

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Speaker 3: like twenty twelve and it's like, that was great, I

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Speaker 2: I do it all the time.

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Speaker 5: I've done that exactly. But I do know sometimes, like

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Speaker 5: I'm sure I've said this before, but my numbers keep growing. Man,

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Speaker 5: I am like I'm you know, with Twitter, I'm like

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Speaker 5: scraping guys. I'm like getting like a little I just

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Speaker 5: passed ten k, and I'm telling you I fought hard

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Speaker 4: But well, now the momentum will build and then suddenly

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be like fifteen twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It'll just it's you're rolling downhill at this point.

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Speaker 3: get that actual k there. Yeah, it's visually so it's

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Speaker 3: just it's beautiful to see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm I'm acceptable to people now, you know.

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Speaker 5: I I started stand up here in LA and I

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Speaker 5: was very bad at first, but I'm better now. And

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Speaker 5: in the alternative space, the new the second round of

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Speaker 5: alternative comedy. Karen, you're part of the first one, but

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Speaker 5: I'm part of the Dave the children of Dave Ross

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, well, I'm not going anywhere. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: keep getting like rising. My phoenix will continue to rise.

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Speaker 5: And then at one point, sir, you will be forced

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Speaker 1: It would be in your best inter Yeah him back.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because people sometimes, don't you know, I've I've

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Speaker 5: the hottest shows in Los Angeles. That's not that's not

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Speaker 5: won't book. I bartend there. I've bartended there for fourteen years.

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Speaker 5: I've got to look these people in the face. I

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Speaker 5: don't care what kind of heat you got out here

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Speaker 5: in LA. If you're not talking, if you're not talking

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Speaker 5: to working class Mexican and white people, I don't know

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Speaker 5: what the fuck to tell you. Okay, yeah, get out.

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Speaker 4: You might as well get out now if you can't.

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Speaker 4: If you can't lessen yourself quote unquote wait, speaking of

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Speaker 4: being bad when you first started stand up, which we

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Speaker 4: all were, by the bye, can we hear some of

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Speaker 4: the early Steve Hernandez material that we would have been

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Speaker 2: It's not just premises, no full joke fu.

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Speaker 5: because I was, you know, you start off and you're

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Speaker 5: saying things that are like you don't realize that are

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Speaker 5: shitty towards women and stuff like that. Because I'm from

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Speaker 5: West Covina. The first thing, the first open like I did,

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Speaker 5: was that Casey's downtown and I remember Dave was there,

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Speaker 5: Jeff Watt and Iver, Alan Strick and Williams, and I

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Speaker 5: remember I got up. I did the like rookie mistake

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Speaker 5: beloved to the community and they're like, who the fuck

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Speaker 5: is this fat Mexican guy. But I remember Alan Strickle, Williams.

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Speaker 5: Alan was there and I didn't know anybody, and I said, hey, come,

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Speaker 5: nobody told me Vampire Weekend was going to be here, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and nobody laughed, you know, and I just felt like

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Speaker 5: a moron. I don't, Yeah, I don't. I can't remember.

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Speaker 5: I will tell you that I did try to do.

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Speaker 5: I am queer and I have some pretty killer queer

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Speaker 2: And it's it's important.

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Speaker 3: I felt like when I was getting ready to do

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Speaker 3: All I hear is great things about Chatterbox.

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Speaker 5: I've never done it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you always have these young girlfriends and they like

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Speaker 2: And that's another thing I mention, not anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's maybe seven years ago, but around that time I

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Speaker 3: So they were getting all these options, and then comedy

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Speaker 3: do you ever go to Chatterbox? He said he was

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Speaker 2: That, all these options.

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Speaker 5: But you know, we have a few pretty big car

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Speaker 5: So because I've make I make fifty percent more money

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Speaker 5: But there are these you know, I talked to working

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Speaker 5: So that's why. Yeah, these motherfuckers aren't giving us anything,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to make it back to their show at

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well, again. Bring you, Chris. You have that

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Speaker 3: Yeah you, because I always describe myself, you know, in

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. I got

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Speaker 3: because I did the same mistake you said with Alan

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Speaker 3: He gave everyone a heal on a Sienna and yeah,

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Speaker 5: I guess I'm so happy to be here with people

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny.

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Speaker 4: I tried to go back, and Chris and I've talked

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Speaker 4: You know, there's so many great human beings that are

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Speaker 4: And it's just like, and I'm a lazy older person that, like,

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Speaker 5: Uh, Chris, what do you have to say about that?

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Speaker 2: It's so well, I'm just thinking about being on the road.

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Speaker 3: It's uh, I'm fine that stand up has been easier

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Speaker 2: I was always nervous. It's part of my nature.

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Speaker 3: I'm still a nervous, stammering weirdo, but I'm more confident now.

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Speaker 3: And I am the age of if you go to

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Speaker 3: And that's just something that I had no control over,

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Speaker 3: let it mean nothing because there's still you know Eddie Pepatone.

440
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 5: Yeah and yeah, so it's still it's the voice your

441
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 5: heads that you're like fighting against the industry to like

442
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 5: whatever the industry, because you know, that's not why you

443
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: started doing this. Anyways. No, it's the same voice that's

444
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 5: talking about your age and that way to compare yourself

445
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 5: to Yeah, people, that is it's all disgusting. It's very gross.

446
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 3: It is disgusting, and it's something I never even thought

447
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 3: of for a second before I moved here.

448
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: I was also a young person.

449
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 5: I had neither until the pandemic. I think the pandemic

450
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 5: really freaked me out me two way where yeah, where

451
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: I just never compare myself. I was always saying, I'm

452
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,239
Speaker 5: happy I have what I need today. I'm becoming a

453
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 5: better man, a better person all the time. That's very

454
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 5: important to me as well. And that pandemic really just

455
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 5: fucking threw me.

456
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all hovered above our bodies and looked at

457
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: ourselves sleeping.

458
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: And judged sleeping in the afternoon. Yeah, there's nothing else

459
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: to do.

460
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, and I got did you go? I keep

461
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: getting blinder and blinder. There's just a lot of stuff

462
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 3: that hit.

463
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 5: I did have to get my first pair of readers

464
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 5: in the pandemic.

465
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 2: Oh you mean these things?

466
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, these are too.

467
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: These are in case I need to read something further

468
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: than arm's length.

469
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: And these are up close phone glasses.

470
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Karen you don't need to do it. It's just

471
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 5: for losers. And I mean, I really do believe. I

472
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 5: was like, this is the stupidest, dumbest thing in the world.

473
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 5: It's so dumb you're successful. As soon as I get

474
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 5: any kind of success, I'm off the internet. I'm gonna

475
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stop doing all the my so I can't wait.

476
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: You will get there. You will get there. You know

477
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: what it is, You're right there. I feel like the

478
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 4: drive to come up, Like I really always loved being

479
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: an underdog and was for you know, thirty years or whatever.

480
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 4: So that kind of thing of like fuck you, I'll

481
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: show you, or I'll be in this room and then

482
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: you won't expect I'll be the comic that whatever.

483
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: Like all of that.

484
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 4: It's like if you don't have enough of that, you know,

485
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 4: for me, it was always bitterness or it was always

486
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 4: like kind of I hadn't gotten I hadn't convinced enough

487
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: people yet or something. And once that is gone, then

488
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 4: then I am left. That took up so much of

489
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: my brain. If that's gone there, then it's just weird. Insecurity,

490
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: where you can it's that thing if you catch eyes

491
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: with one person in the audience and then you'd start

492
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 4: projecting all your weird psychosis on them or something, or like,

493
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 4: you know, god forbid you see like a blonde man

494
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 4: not smiling. That's my keast favorite thing, yea doing stand

495
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 4: up comedies like oh I fucking hate.

496
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: You and your everything. I stand up.

497
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: I saw that toyotas fuck you dude.

498
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think as much as I love the

499
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: fact that I have done it and maybe could do it,

500
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 4: it just does feel like it's like, let the other

501
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: ones who really are putting their heart and soulo out

502
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 4: there do it.

503
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the only way I'm like still going, even though,

504
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 5: like I said, I have a very good time doing it,

505
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 5: but I am branching out and doing a bunch of

506
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: other things too. But is I swear? I was like,

507
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 5: I've got like ten twelve Latino comics out of the

508
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 5: Chatterbox where I started a monthly out here, just to

509
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 5: start a pipeline from the Chatterbox out to la I've

510
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 5: got a bigger idea for that in the fall. But

511
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 5: to me, I'm just like, well, even if it doesn't

512
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 5: happen for me, these guys are hungry and smart enough.

513
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: And I mean when I first started doing comedy here

514
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 5: in La There was only one other Latina, know, alternative comic,

515
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 5: John Vargas, who lived with Canaan.

516
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's John? I love love that.

517
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, he just stopped doing it, you know he did.

518
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: There was right decision and.

519
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 4: He quit because I think he got a job as

520
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: a sound guy somewhere and he was doing a lot

521
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: of sound stuff for a while.

522
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean how long can you be poor for?

523
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 5: Like how long can you just grind it out and

524
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 5: be poor for?

525
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: This podcast was started on a Zoom six that I

526
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: purchased from Sammy's cameras from Argus's. Yeah, he told me

527
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: what I needed to get and everything. He is a

528
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: sound savvy son of a gun.

529
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: And he also.

530
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 4: Not in a style like not in a phony La

531
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: style way dressed super Yeah, he's straight up but like yeah,

532
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: like like alo but not a yeah yeah yeah button

533
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: to the top. That's that was always my favorite. I

534
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: was like, oh, it's like he's the real deal, you know.

535
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was not refried comedy. That's what we're

536
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 5: always battling against. His Latinos with this like a George

537
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 5: Lopez kind of like you know how we are like

538
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 5: that kind of a thing. So I've got ten or

539
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 5: twelve young younger comics that I think have what it

540
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: takes to be mainstream. And then you have Chris Astrata,

541
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 5: you have Chris Garcia, you have Marcella. You got a

542
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: bunch of people that in the next five years we're

543
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 5: going to crack. We've never been in the conversation before,

544
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 5: but it's like, well, I've got to do my best

545
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 5: to help these young guys crack into it.

546
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: Then that's brilliant.

547
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: Well also because that's it's like you just need to

548
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: see one person that you think you relate to or

549
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: that can somehow that makes you believe you should be

550
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: doing it, like some reflection on stage that you go,

551
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 4: this is secretly what I've always wanted to do. Now

552
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 4: I see this person doing it. If they can do it,

553
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: maybe I can do it. Like that is super important.

554
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cool that you've kind of decided to

555
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: take that on and feel responsible that way.

556
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: That's former youth pastor you guys can't shake.

557
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: You know, I want, you know, I want to talk

558
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, yeah, very much.

559
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 4: But it is ridiculous that we live in Los Angeles

560
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 4: where the population is like the percentage of Mexican Americans

561
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: is like and Hispanic people is huge, and yet the

562
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: numbers of stand up comics in alternative comedies are small.

563
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: That surprises me.

564
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just I think just this country, the country

565
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 5: is always uh, it's a story of black versus white.

566
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 5: And when you think of Mexicans, I think people have

567
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 5: always and other Latinos people have always just thought of

568
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 5: us as kind of like the help. And so whether

569
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 5: or not, like they choose to admit it or anything,

570
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: we've got to crack that idea and and and we're

571
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: well on our way.

572
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: So even in like where I started in Austin, it

573
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: was a huge scene, but it was separate, like that

574
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: whole scene. And when Gabriela Glacias had come to town,

575
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe the audience around the block.

576
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: It was like, wow, how is that? It was totally separate.

577
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: And like you said, the improv isn't still calling it

578
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: Reeve Fried Fridays, right.

579
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 5: They don't. We would take it, Yeah, we'll take it.

580
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 5: They don't even have that.

581
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: They did for a while well then yeah, yeah sucks,

582
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: but it needed a better name. Is all the same

583
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: like that is that is like oh god.

584
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: Well we'll see. We're I'm excited. You know, Chris Astrada

585
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: has a show coming out, And Chris Astrada is the

586
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 5: great Brown Hope. He's the perfect bridge between like all

587
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 5: kinds of Reek fried comedy and mainstream stuff. He's brilliant

588
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 5: and yeah, right when he started, I think he's like

589
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: three or four years behind me. Everybody knew he was

590
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: just so smart and so funny. So his show's going

591
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: to drop on Hulu this year. That's going to be

592
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: a big step forward. We've got Frankie Cononez and yeah.

593
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Frankie man.

594
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 6: Yeah he I just watched his video where he's like

595
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 6: where he's like, I'm the I'm the dad for you today,

596
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 6: Like he's starts he asked this guy of me as

597
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 6: a dad, and then he's like, I'll be your dad today.

598
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 6: But he would just look it up if you I'm

599
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 6: the dad for you today.

600
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: It is the best thing.

601
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: It's so specific and random and it he's singing it.

602
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: That's why I won't fully commit. And you know I

603
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: don't commit to other people's jokes. You should good, Oh

604
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: not this one. It is so Yeah, he's the best man.

605
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some good people coming up. That's true.

606
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: Chris Ostrada had a tweet that was so amazing and

607
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: it's it was the first time I knew who he

608
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: was because someone retweeted it was the one. I'm going

609
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 4: to completely ruin this, but it was basically like, I

610
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 4: didn't smoke crack in a motel room in a West

611
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: Covine or wherever it was so that I could have

612
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 4: somebody criticize, some youngster criticize my jokes.

613
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: In the back of the room.

614
00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: So good. Should we talk about the Bible podcast?

615
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you want. You know, I have a Bible podcast.

616
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 5: It's called Read the Bible with Me with Steve nanez Uh.

617
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: I think I was at such a different place. I

618
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: was very like pumped up after Black Lives Matter because

619
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 5: I had gone to so many like rallies and heard

620
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: all these like strong black women preachers, and it reminded

621
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: me of of the God that I used to believe

622
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 5: in and stuff. So I had the idea to, oh,

623
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 5: you know what, let me go back into this thing

624
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: because I did used to be a youth minister at

625
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 5: a megachurch in West Covina to I was like twenty two,

626
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: and I was like let me, uh, let me go

627
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: back and read this thing and you know, try to

628
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: see what it's like. Still, but you know, about three

629
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: and I still do it. I still open up. I

630
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: still read the Bible every episode. But this thing is

631
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: so fucking stupid. I can't believe I got conned. I

632
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 5: can't believe so many people get conned by this fucking thing.

633
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: And this is something I know, like, I know the

634
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 5: Bible in my heart. I love it like an old uncle. Uh.

635
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 5: And it's just crazy to go back and to understand

636
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: what each of these different authors was trying to accomplish.

637
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 5: The Book of John, out of the four Gospels, Matthew, Luke, Mark,

638
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: and John, the Book of John, Jesus is just straight

639
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 5: up a superhero. He straight up. He's straight up like Zeus,

640
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: you know, Like it's so it's all Greek mythology where

641
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 5: God comes down and have sex with the mortal woman

642
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: and then you create a half God. It's just such

643
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: Greek mythology, which they fucking ate up two thousand years ago.

644
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: I'm not an atheist person. I don't try to do that,

645
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 5: and I really like do feel the thing. I try

646
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: to live my life by my conscience. But I used

647
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 5: to call my conscience the Holy Spirit. I have no

648
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 5: problem calling the thing like the right thing to do

649
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 5: in life God saying God told me to do this,

650
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: even though I don't believe in any kind of being

651
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: or anything, but I do believe in the divine. I

652
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 5: do believe there is a truly right, loving way to

653
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 5: do things, and I try to live my life by that.

654
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 5: But that Bible, this Bible A got shit to do

655
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 5: with any of that.

656
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: And to have a shorter conversation with people are religious,

657
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: do you ever say you have faith?

658
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: Absolutely not, No, I will.

659
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: I you know, I believe I am a person of faith,

660
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: but then I can't get any more specific than that.

661
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't have faith in it, and I

662
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 5: do wonder. I am at the place in the podcast

663
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 5: now where I and I, you know, I talk about

664
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: all this stuff in the podcast, and then I interview

665
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 5: a lot of either former believers or kind of renegade

666
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: believers now, people who have left the church and are

667
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 5: still trying to like have a relationship with God on

668
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 5: their own terms in like renegade ways. But yeah, no,

669
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: I absolutely don't believe in any of that, and I do.

670
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: I'm at that place right now when we're wondering how

671
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: much this has fucked me up. I'm not in guilt.

672
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: I don't really. I've never been a very fortunate I've

673
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 5: never been like a guilty person about my seeing or

674
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 5: anything like that. But that I'm always trying to, like,

675
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, do things in an ethical way. I

676
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 5: know it sounds like I'm saying I'm trying to be

677
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 5: a good person, but I wonder if the Bible has

678
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 5: warped what being a good person is to me.

679
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: Well, there's such I found because I was raised Catholic

680
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: and went to Catholic school, so there was a lot

681
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: of Bible reading. There was a lot of writing out

682
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: of things we were reading and really studying, like word

683
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: for word, and I found that there was an intense

684
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: contradiction from chapter to chapter and book to books. So

685
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: it was just like, sorry, didn't we just read that

686
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to do this or that this isn't okay?

687
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: And then it's like then there would be the ones.

688
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 4: There was like some you know, some stuff that was

689
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: real hardcore and real like real old, and then there

690
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 4: was some stuff that was real like hippy ish that

691
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: was like very seventies kind of like everything's cool and

692
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: just be cool to people. I mean, maybe that's a testament.

693
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: So it's a handful of different dudes writing the stuff with.

694
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: Different audiences in mind. And so you're just like us

695
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 5: as stand up comics. I have my you know, I

696
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: have an hour and fifteen worth of jokes. There's ones

697
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: I'm not going to pull up in certain rooms. Yeah,

698
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: there's ones I'm not going to do because it would

699
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 5: not work.

700
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: So some of the guys that wrote the Bible were

701
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: alt guys. The other guys were more mainstream.

702
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: Well, and what about all the different versions of the

703
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: panels of people hundreds of years later editing it? So

704
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: like I remember learning about that part where it's like,

705
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, why are we going so deep on this

706
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: when why aren't we talking about that bigger picture of

707
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: who has influenced what these essential ideas used to be

708
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: versus what? You know?

709
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: Was it like this the King James Bible or the whatever.

710
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: There's the ones videans leave in your in your what's

711
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: the only one I do through?

712
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 4: But it's like everybody has an agenda. Everybody that got

713
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: their hands on that thing had an agenda. And then

714
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: there's now people in twenty twenty two who are like fundamentalists,

715
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: who are like, word for word, this is the.

716
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: Truth, and it's like and they're the reason why our

717
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: country is like falling apart. I do believe, like my

718
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: much of this stuff with Trump and everything, that those

719
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 5: are very there's fundamental Christians and they've been allowed or

720
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: if you want to believe that the bible's the errant

721
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: of God, word of God, then you have to like

722
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 5: stop using your brain. And so these people have stopped

723
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: using their brain. You know, my mom voted for Trump,

724
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 5: and I love my mom, and you know, we continue

725
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: to get along, but it's it hasn't been easy and

726
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 5: all of this stuff. My mom's still she's a very

727
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: uh she's evangelical Christian, but she's always very She's also

728
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 5: very mystical.

729
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: She thinks she's evangelical means were you take the Bible

730
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: word for word like a literal in a literal way.

731
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: Yes, she's very mystical too, so she thinks she can heal.

732
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 5: I have seen her kind of like know things about

733
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 5: people after she just met. I don't think that can

734
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 5: be a true You could attribute that to God if

735
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 5: you want. I don't, but she's not completely crazy, but

736
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 5: she does believe a lot of this crazy shit and

737
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: she's listen to this podcast and it causes strife in

738
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: our relationship for a few months.

739
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, then what happened? You guys just put it aside?

740
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 5: My mom. I'm very fortunate. As much as crazy as

741
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 5: my mom is and stuff too is she really is

742
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 5: like always striving to stay connected with us. But she

743
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 5: still like thinks gay people are going to hell, but

744
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 5: she's like does it. She's always trying to not be

745
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: that way, and she's trying to make it make sense

746
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 5: to connect with us. So I know a lot of

747
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 5: people aren't as fortunate to me as me to have

748
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 5: parents like that that are believers. But yeah, she just said, hey,

749
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: you know, however you want to have a relationship with

750
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 5: God is up to you. I can't judge that. So

751
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 5: I'm like I said, I'm very fortunate about that.

752
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god, thank God. There's a lot of other

753
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 3: stuff to talk about with your mom.

754
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 5: Not much, not much when we have talks. When we

755
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 5: get together, we'll have talk for like four hours. And

756
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: I just kind of have to code switch for her

757
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 5: because I do know the Bible and I am trying

758
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: to live my life in a way that kind of

759
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 5: lines up with a lot of things. So I just

760
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: like I told you, like I said earlier, I'll say

761
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 5: God told me to do this and that kind of thing. Yeah,

762
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 5: and she's it is so funny though. She just saw

763
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: me do stand up for the first time last Saturday. Saturday.

764
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. I mean I didn't want her if I

765
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 5: accidentally say a curse word, it like really bothers her.

766
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: So if she were to see my stand up, I'm like,

767
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 5: there's no reason to put you through this. But Joel

768
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: and Mandy, the people who were on Hot Tub, did

769
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 5: a show at Union Station and we got paid like

770
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 5: a lot of money to be very clean, and so

771
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 5: I was I was like, just mom, this is the

772
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 5: one for you, Like, get out to this one. And

773
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 5: it was a great show. It was beautiful. It was

774
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 5: jam packed out in the courtyard. And Julia, my wife,

775
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: was like walking my mom to the bathroom or something

776
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: and she's like, are you having fun? And my mom

777
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 5: said the thing I liked most so few curse words,

778
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: and I was, yeah, this is what my Mexican mom

779
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 5: loves about the whole thing. But she had a great time.

780
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 5: I took a picture with her with all.

781
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: She wanted she had. She been asking if she could

782
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: come watch you the past few years.

783
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 5: She'd asked like once before. But I think she'd got

784
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: found some of my stuff on the internet too. And

785
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: you know I talk about sucking dick and getting fucked

786
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 5: and stuff, so I don't I mean, I think that

787
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: stuff has It's not.

788
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: That that bothered her.

789
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: Beforehand.

790
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 5: Some guy was committing whoopee in my butN.

791
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Why did you have to say sucking?

792
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 5: It's the alliteration, Mom, You don't get it. I made

793
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 5: love with that guy's penis in my mouth much better.

794
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for saying. Grace.

795
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: There's there are a lot of those.

796
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: It makes me think of when I was young and

797
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: we drive to church on Sunday morning, and if I

798
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 4: saw like a kid playing in a yard in the yard,

799
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: I would get really bummed for that kid because I

800
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: knew that if they weren't going to church, then that

801
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 4: meant that they were probably going to go to Hell.

802
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: And that was just kind of this ingrained, preset thing.

803
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: It was just the way we were raised until in

804
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: no joke, this is gonna sound very uh like phony,

805
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: but I swear to God Andy Kandler was the first

806
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 4: stand up comic I ever met, and it was I

807
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: was like twenty.

808
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: This is when I was in college.

809
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: It was when I lived in Sacramento and my friend

810
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: was dating him and she was a waitress at the

811
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: laugh what's the club up there?

812
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: The laugh?

813
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: Anyway, she was a waitress at the comedy clubs. So

814
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: I meet Andy Killer and I had just started staying.

815
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 4: I think I did like my first set two weeks

816
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 4: before or something like that. And so then later on

817
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: I had dated a guy who was evangelical Christian, but

818
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 4: he didn't he kept it a secret until like until

819
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: like week three, and then he was like, I need

820
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 4: you to say these seven words.

821
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: And then yeah, sometimes you got to save it for

822
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: the bedroom. Yeah, exact.

823
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 4: And it all came together and I thought to myself,

824
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: if this is if he's right, that means automatically and

825
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: without any interaction, it is laughs, unlimited, Thank you, Casey,

826
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: it is laughs. So that by this guy's definition, that

827
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: means Andy Kndler is going to burn in hell no

828
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: matter what.

829
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's just no way that's the truth.

830
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 4: And so then suddenly it all just kind of evaporated

831
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 4: in that way where it's just like, oh yeah, these

832
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: there's ingrained things that I didn't think to question because

833
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, that's like being Catholic, and it

834
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: was just kind of how the how it was of it.

835
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: And then it was just like, oh, yeah, that's all

836
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: of that is just these weird scare tactics to keep

837
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: you in line and keep you going to work and

838
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: coming home and not fucking around and and not doing

839
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 4: whatever you want, like taking away your agency.

840
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 5: So I had no problem with people going to hell

841
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 5: that that seemed right to me. I was like, yeah, well,

842
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 5: I'm timing.

843
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: That's great that you were super young and you were

844
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: full on like head past or.

845
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 5: Like did they have of the youth minister. Well, it's

846
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 5: called Faith Community Church. It's still I don't know what's

847
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 5: gonna happen with it. They recently This is kind of

848
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: part of the reason why I started the podcast too,

849
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 5: is they just sold their property to Amazon for thirty

850
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 5: million dollars. Yeah, when I was fifteen. This is all

851
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 5: in West Covino. When I was fifteen, we bought that

852
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 5: property for three million. So I'm just I was trying

853
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: to figure out, like, what the fuck happened? Is gonna

854
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: happen with that money. Also, the senior pastor's son, he's

855
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: taken over the preaching. This guy was my friend one

856
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 5: year older. The daughter the senior pastor daughter, my first loved,

857
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: my first girlfriend. So I know this family and he's

858
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: one of the worst preachers I've ever seen in my life.

859
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 5: And so I just started posting clips and I just

860
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: don't Yeah, I'm just going after him because I'm like, Dan,

861
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 5: you fucking suck. You're a bad preacher. I don't even

862
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 5: have to say anything else. I just know preaching, and

863
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is terrible, this is so I'm so

864
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: mad that you guys are putting him right here. So

865
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 5: oh yeah, but yeah, yeah, I grew up in that church.

866
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: It was about five hundred when I was little. I

867
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 5: started going there when I was seven, and by the

868
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 5: time I left, they were at about fourteen thousand. I

869
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 5: think it's I think it's shrunk dramatically because that guy

870
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 5: Dan is such a bad preacher. But and mega churches

871
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 5: are kind of going down too. But yeah, fuck, I

872
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 5: bought into this hook line and sinker, and I do

873
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 5: think a big attraction for me is this idea of

874
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 5: justice and right and wrong. But you know, for gay people,

875
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: I always felt I always felt bad that they were

876
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 5: going to go to hell because even when you're little,

877
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: you know gay people when you're little, when you're in

878
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: first grade, there's a gay kid in your class. You

879
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 5: don't know the words for it anything, but you know,

880
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: oh yeah, Conrad's different. There's something different about him. But

881
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 5: I was just like, well, that's kind of just you know,

882
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 5: it's so funny. I'll never forget. When I was nineteen

883
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: years old, I went to visit my friend Brian liinback

884
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 5: in England. He was staying like as a like a

885
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 5: class exchange thing in college, and we went to see

886
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: Rent and I saw Rent and we walked out. He's like,

887
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 5: you know, somebody dies in Rent from AIDS and we

888
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: walked out of the thing. He's like, what'd you think.

889
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: I was like, it was, it's pretty sad, but I

890
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 5: gotta say, the wages of sin or is death. You know,

891
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: the wages of city is dead. So I just always

892
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: was like, that's just how it is.

893
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: You weren't being sarcastic, Oh no, I was serious reactions.

894
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was just like, that's what's gonna happen

895
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 5: if you sin is you're gonna die of AIDS. So

896
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're a gay person, that's gonna do.

897
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 5: I always felt bad for gay people because I didn't

898
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: seem like they had a choice to me. But also

899
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: that's just what the Bible said. It wasn't until like,

900
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 5: you know what, six feet under you guys have seen

901
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: six Feet Under Sure that first season with David and

902
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: like loving God and like fighting through his faith and

903
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 5: being so ashamed that he was gay. That was the

904
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: first time where I was like, oh, this is stupid,

905
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: Like that's dumb, Like God, I loving God would not

906
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 5: do this to a person.

907
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's interesting because all God aside that that.

908
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: I remember that being the show I watched my dad.

909
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: He loved it and he like was rooting for that couple,

910
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: and I think all dads before that were.

911
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: A little homophobic.

912
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: And I remember him loving that show, and I thought

913
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: that was kind of important that that show was that

914
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: for him, because they were not My parents were not religious.

915
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: I started going in high school to church without ever

916
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: having looked at a Bible, you know.

917
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Until college. I had a.

918
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: Literary criticism class where we had to decipher half of

919
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: the Old Testament and it was a very hard class

920
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: and I got a very low grade and I was

921
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: really trying.

922
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: I just was dumb.

923
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: But I started going to this after school program because

924
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: the girls I liked. I've talked about this before, but

925
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: the pastor was the coolest guy ever, and he was

926
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know how into this Bible thing,

927
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: you know, I'm really into it that much. And he

928
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: didn't care. He's like, no, you're a good person to

929
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: have around. He wasn't trying to convert me. He was

930
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: just a good person, like an early other adult that

931
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: I looked up to.

932
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's rare that you have those that aren't

933
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: your parents. And he was.

934
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: I still to this day, it's like a great guy.

935
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: But I yeah, So I had like such a different experience.

936
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: I think my dad was like, well, what are you

937
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: doing going to church. I'm like, it's an after it's

938
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: free dinner on Wednesdays. One then we got to go

939
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: on these work camps. It was really fun.

940
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: So I was not I was not that kind of

941
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 5: a pastor. I had. I had intentions and I had

942
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 5: I wanted to like reach goals and stuff.

943
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: And did you did you use fear like try and

944
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: scare people into with the hell thing, because.

945
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 5: Yes, but not really that was not the way that

946
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: I wanted to do it. But I did run a

947
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 5: Christian hunted house called Inferno. I have to know about that.

948
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it cost seventy five thousand dollars and we

949
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 5: made it.

950
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 4: In this life you have like an abortion room at

951
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: the primary sex room all this stuff.

952
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we and yeah it was called Inferno and

953
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 5: the headline was It'll scare the hell out of you.

954
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good, though.

955
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 5: I know we had to fight for that too. I

956
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 5: had to fight for that, and I was like put

957
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 5: the Christ in them, and they're like all right, all right.

958
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: But I mean all of like the marketing, all that

959
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: kind of stuff, the stuff that you know, I basically

960
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 5: do now as a stand up was stuff that I

961
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: like really loved to do. But even me then I

962
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 5: kind of remember thinking this is kind of shitty. We

963
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: would throw these huge events with like sumo suits and

964
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: video games and like skateboard rams, just a trick the

965
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 5: kids to get there, and then you know, then you

966
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 5: lock the doors, you know, and make them accept Christ.

967
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 5: I mean I was doing I was doing all that stuff,

968
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: and I didn't feel great about it, but the numbers.

969
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: It was very effective in terms of the numbers. And

970
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 5: like my bosses really loved to be able to say,

971
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 5: you know, four hundred kids gave their life to Christ

972
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 5: this past week and they love that, just that kind

973
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: of stuff.

974
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: But they're maybe counting like there, have you heard the

975
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: cavalry or tell Shane, tell me.

976
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

977
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: They always throughout most.

978
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: Isn't it a church chain?

979
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 3: They always had skate parks, indoor skate parks, so you'd

980
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: have to go and listen to guy talk for a

981
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: little bit and then they just like eskate.

982
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 2: So we all were like, yeah, yeah, we're faith faithful,

983
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: riddle faith and then we got to skate. So I

984
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: wonder if they put us on the roster. I got

985
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: seven more guys.

986
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 5: If you raised your hand, they put you in the roster. Right,

987
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: gave your life to Christ? Yeah? Oh yeah, I remember

988
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 5: bragging about those numbers and everything like that.

989
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: So, so, Steve, when you were preaching, is that where

990
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: you first got the idea that maybe you want to

991
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 4: do stand up? Were those things somehow intertwined or like funny?

992
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Were you to use humor?

993
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah? Funny preacher? Yeah, I just tell all like these

994
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 5: crazy stories, or I picked verses in the Bible and

995
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: then like come up with stories to back the point.

996
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 5: It's all just stand up still. It's you know, stand up.

997
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 5: You're basically the way I write stand up is you're

998
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: coming up with a thesis sentence and then a few

999
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 5: thesis like points to back the thesis sentence. So it's

1000
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 5: all just the exact the exact same place where I

1001
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 5: would get my sermons from the Holy Spirit. That same

1002
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 5: place is the same place I get my jokes from. Now.

1003
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: It was exact, but that's not how it went down.

1004
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 5: After I quit. You know, I was twenty two to

1005
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 5: twenty three years old, and then I just fucking I

1006
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: was just a burnt. I worked at a gas station

1007
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 5: full time, or no, a liquor store full time, and

1008
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 5: like a gas station. Then I worked at TJ Fridays

1009
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 5: in West Covina for six years and partied and partied hard.

1010
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I did ecstasy a couple of times at work.

1011
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. I flipped my car on break. I got

1012
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 5: so drunk at BJ's, like the restaurant next door on

1013
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 5: break that I drove. I flipped my car in a

1014
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 5: pole and the bussers ran out and like picked it

1015
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 5: up and like moved it to a spot and they

1016
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: just sent me home like just I mean, I was

1017
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: just a crazy, like West Covina party.

1018
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: Guy on any of those party. Did anyone recognize you

1019
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: as the pastor from the church?

1020
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 5: Uh oh yeah, oh yeah. And to this day and

1021
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: to this day, I just went out with one of

1022
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 5: my junior high kids. Yet last night she's thirty five.

1023
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 5: Now I thought, you know, I was only eight years old.

1024
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 5: Of them like a twelve, twenty year old and a

1025
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 5: twelve year old. But yeah, I see those I see

1026
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 5: these people still all the time. But yeah, then I started.

1027
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 5: I've got married from my first wife when I was

1028
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 5: thirty and then I started stand up when I was

1029
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: thirty two and that was the end of my marriage.

1030
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: So although I do see it help people that maybe

1031
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: need that. Like one of the work camp trips I

1032
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: did in high school, we went to this camp near Mendocino,

1033
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: and these guys were just out of prison and a

1034
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: lot of them had done scary things and they I

1035
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 3: felt so my back was sweating because they they were intimidating,

1036
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: they were just we were just mingling with them. A

1037
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: bunch of high school kids, but they all wanted to

1038
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: talk about their like do you want to talk about

1039
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: the Bible? And I was just admitted, I don't know much.

1040
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 3: I just like to go on these trips and help people.

1041
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 3: I know I'm not helping you right now, but uh,

1042
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 3: and they it obviously that's what was Shane, making them

1043
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: want to be a better person. So on that level,

1044
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: it's like, how can you be mad at that?

1045
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1046
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, no, I I And you know it's funny

1047
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: I'm talking all this shit, but my I was abused

1048
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 5: when I was a kid. Not not crazy, it's just

1049
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 5: regular Mexican level. And yeah, I could tell these there's

1050
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: a b I have a whole bunch of abuse jokes

1051
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 5: that I could tell in front of a mexicanized that

1052
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 5: you can't stay in front of whites because they get

1053
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 5: like very sad.

1054
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 2: But how do they do at the Mega Church?

1055
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 5: These these those jokes, Yeah, you probably didn't know, but

1056
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 5: I would bring out that. I would part of my

1057
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 5: testimony was that I was abused. Chris, that's very oh

1058
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 5: wow interesting, But oh yeah, I am very grateful because I,

1059
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 5: like I said, I have a chaotic home life and

1060
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 5: without the church, I would have never gone to the beach.

1061
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 5: I've been all over the world a few times on

1062
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 5: mission trips, and it doesn't really count because we're doing

1063
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 5: dumb god shit. But you know, I've been to France

1064
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 5: a few times, and I went to the beach and

1065
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 5: I just was around people that were kind of healthy.

1066
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 5: And more importantly, I fell in love with the Bible.

1067
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: I fell in love with the written word, and I

1068
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: fell in love with like coming up with ideas and

1069
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 5: concepts and thinking in a way that I don't know

1070
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 5: if I would have ever encountered this stuff. Like my

1071
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 5: parents didn't even the idea of college. They never mentioned

1072
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 5: it to us. I didn't go to college, but like

1073
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 5: it was just not that kind of I don't know.

1074
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 5: I would have been a cop. I tried to be

1075
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 5: a cop. I tried to join the military. I would

1076
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 5: have been a cop. If I didn't go to church,

1077
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 5: you'd be a funny cop.

1078
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: It feels to me like TGI Fridays really is really

1079
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: is the turning point that made all the difference right there.

1080
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: Really, you open with those license.

1081
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: Plates saying everywhere just like fucking madoris tour Marguerite.

1082
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 5: I mean we had a blast sometimes again, so I

1083
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 5: get mad because I started stand up so late. And

1084
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 5: then I look at these kids in their twenties and

1085
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: out here like doing like the youth doing stand up

1086
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 5: and how much fun they're having. But I was like, no,

1087
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 5: I'm so glad because I just was a loser, like

1088
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 5: doing molly, like just getting fucked up in West Covina,

1089
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 5: and I have like nobody knows about that stuff, Like

1090
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: nobody I could like it's my deep dark secret. Were

1091
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 5: people still in Covino, West Covina like know about me?

1092
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 5: If I walk into a sandwich shop, They're like, were

1093
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 5: you guy that guy who flipped his car when he

1094
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 5: was on break? And I was like, yeah, that's me.

1095
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 4: I love the fact that the bussers came and turned

1096
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: it back out, turned it back right side, so you

1097
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't so so there was no report.

1098
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: You did not get in trouble.

1099
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 5: I will only say this on this I have never

1100
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: talked about this part of it, but I had I

1101
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 5: had hooked up with my manager at that time too,

1102
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 5: and so that day when I did that, I was

1103
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 5: black eyed drunk, and you know obviously it's you should

1104
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 5: not drunk driver. An I'm so The reason I'm laughing

1105
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 5: about it is because it didn't affect anyone except for

1106
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 5: I totaled my car. But I flipped, Yeah, I flipped it,

1107
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: totaled it. And the manager at the time was a

1108
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 5: different guy, and everybody liked me, and they were somebody

1109
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 5: was like, I saw Steve lose control, and some other

1110
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 5: guy said, I think we should send him home. He

1111
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 5: seems out of it. And someone's like, oh, I'll stay,

1112
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 5: and they gradu just went and got the bussers and

1113
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 5: some of the cooks and they just flipped over my

1114
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: Honda Civic and put it in a spot.

1115
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: What were you were you drifting or something? You know,

1116
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of that.

1117
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 5: What I was, What I was was blackout drunk Chris Wow. Yeah,

1118
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know I don't drink anymore. I stopped

1119
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 5: drinking a few years ago.

1120
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: But I forgot about the God and thank God it's Friday.

1121
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: Is that what it stands for? Of course it did.

1122
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: It's also must see TV. I always but it is God.

1123
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: The word God is I just it isn't realize that.

1124
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm not. I mean that them putting my

1125
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 5: car on the spot allowed me to drink for an

1126
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 5: extra decade and for that, I'm grateful.

1127
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: That's the kind of enabling you can find.

1128
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank the good God Lord.

1129
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: It's Friday.

1130
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: That is absolutely crazy.

1131
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: That's really a life well lived.

1132
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: Now are you two lives?

1133
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: Several lives?

1134
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 4: Are you guys still making those videos that you were

1135
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 4: making during quarantine? You've made some fucking hilarious and Julia

1136
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 4: shot him and you were doing shit.

1137
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 5: Like she she shoots my eye. I run a show

1138
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 5: called Worship at the Allegion with Amy Miller and Jamal Johnson,

1139
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 5: and I won a monthly called Hernia at the Yard,

1140
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 5: and so I am constantly making videos to promote those things.

1141
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: And yeah, Julia my wife, Julia Lokan, who's has a

1142
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 5: huge Straw podcast, but she's also a comedian. I mean,

1143
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 5: we just shot something yesterday for this thing. But I

1144
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 5: mean she's just absolutely brilliant in terms of editing, and

1145
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 5: like she's my absolute artistic partner. I really do feel

1146
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 5: like I'm shooting myself in the foot because I am polyamorous.

1147
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 5: But it's so evident how in love I am with

1148
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 5: my wife. I feel like I'm fucking myself in terms

1149
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 5: of like being polyamorous, because nobody will have anything to

1150
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 5: do with me. I think people think I'm joking, but

1151
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 5: I am polyamorous, okay, just the only guys who the

1152
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 5: only people who hit on me are gay guys, which

1153
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 5: I am grateful for. I would never know that I'm

1154
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 5: sexy except for gay guys that were always dropping in

1155
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 5: on my box. I want to suck your dick right now.

1156
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, come on down. I'm at workfall there's an

1157
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 5: alley out back. I would definitely let you suck my dick.

1158
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: We got to let him do it at the in

1159
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: the parking lot on the Mega church.

1160
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 5: We just went by the shoot a video and yeah,

1161
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: they're not there anymore. So I think Amazon It's going

1162
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 5: to start to take over pretty soon.

1163
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: Oh and not in a church way. They're maybe building

1164
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 3: a warehouse.

1165
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 5: No, they're actually staring Amazon church.

1166
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 3: Wait, they're making them. I think I drove by it.

1167
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: It's a giant cement structure like the stretches for.

1168
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 5: In West Covina.

1169
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: Maybe not.

1170
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: I drove by something else with a with a giant

1171
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: Amazon logo on it, and it was just the foundation

1172
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: of what looked like, uh, you know, where they're constructing

1173
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: like a millennium falcon in there, something so big.

1174
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're building. It's just another place to send out packages.

1175
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a.

1176
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: Church where if you just hold up your phone as

1177
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: you walk in, then all.

1178
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: Of your tithing is taken care of. Amazing. It's been

1179
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: super fun to talk to you.

1180
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, thank you so much for having me.

1181
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 5: I love both of you guys. Great talking to you

1182
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 5: as well.

1183
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Do you have any plugs? I mean the Yard.

1184
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: You're doing monthly at the Yard, you do a monthly

1185
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 4: at the Allegian.

1186
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 5: Sure, we're doing worship at the Allegian. I'm just the devil.

1187
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 5: I'm dressed like the devil, and it's the most fun

1188
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 5: I've ever had in my life.

1189
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: And you always host as the devil at worship.

1190
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm just the devil. I was trying to

1191
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: come up with a way for promotion to differentiate this

1192
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 5: from Hernia, and I came up with the devil. And

1193
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 5: now I'm just the devil there and it's the most

1194
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 5: fun I've ever had in my life. I'm just I

1195
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: bought a real pitchfork. I spent seventy five dollars for it,

1196
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: and I'm just running around. I'm talking about having a

1197
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 5: group sex I'm trying. I'm trying. The Devil is like

1198
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 5: trying to break into stand up comedy, talking about grinding

1199
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 5: getting spots at the store. So it's I mean, that's

1200
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 5: a very fun show. Amy and Jamal are very talented.

1201
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: And then you can find me of course on Twitter

1202
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 5: at big Hearn and Instagram at Hernia. So those are

1203
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 5: my plugs.

1204
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do at the Hernia show?

1205
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 5: I'm just me. I just do twenty up top. I

1206
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 5: try to write a new twenty every month. And I

1207
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 5: talked to Zeed Kutzinger plays God and that, so him

1208
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 5: and I write pieces together where I kind of do

1209
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: stand up and then we weave me talking to God

1210
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 5: in between those things too.

1211
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that sounds interesting as well.

1212
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: You're really doing it. You're doing really doing it.

1213
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 5: Hey man. As soon as I get any level of success,

1214
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 5: I'm out, Baby, I am out.

1215
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: You're not getting out until you do some colleges.

1216
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: That's right, We're going to get a booked at colleges.

1217
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: Yes, thanks for being here, Steve, thank you. You've been

1218
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: listening to Do You Need a Ride?

1219
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 6: D y N.

1220
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production.

1221
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: Produced by Casey O'Brien.

1222
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Mixed by John Bradley.

1223
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.

1224
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: Theme song by Karen Kilgarriff.

1225
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar podcast.

1226
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,280
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1227
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,040
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1228
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,760
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1229
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1230
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,880
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1231
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1233
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,960
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