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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. When the Jets let up the game winning

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Speaker 1: who thought they did it on purpose. Four point lead

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Speaker 1: course Jets defensive coordinator Greg Williams calling it all outlets,

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Speaker 1: Derek carrl off to the ball to Henry Ruggs, the rookie,

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Speaker 1: The Jets fault, and twelve jokes ensued. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the Jets were trying to lose on purpose to

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Speaker 1: help their draft position, but if they were doing it,

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Speaker 1: they didn't do a very good job because they really

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Speaker 1: should have won this game. And Greg Williams loves to

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Speaker 1: be aggressive. He does it all the time. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a rare stroke of good luck for the franchise because

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking, now the Jets are going to screw

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Speaker 1: this up. Wait, the Jags are going to screw this up.

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Speaker 1: And then both teams ended up losing, So now the

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Speaker 1: Jets are on track to draft Trevor Lawrence. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if Trevor Lawrence is watching the Jets play, he probably

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Speaker 1: wouldn't admit that he was watching or that he's watching Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who his favorite team is, but I

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Speaker 1: wonder if somebody says to Trevor Lawrence, Jets blew it? What? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they allowed the Raiders to win. Oh, someday Jets fans

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Speaker 1: are going to look back at Yesterday's loss is the

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Speaker 1: one that propelled the franchise into an era of unprecedented success, right,

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Speaker 1: or at least if I'm a Jets fan. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying today, that we lost, but we're going to

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Speaker 1: win because we're going to get Trevor Lawrence. We'll have

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Speaker 1: a poll question for you, Play of the Day, stat

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Speaker 1: of the Day, and if you'd like to be part

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Speaker 1: of the program, you can, as we always do every Monday,

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Speaker 1: Best and Worse to the Weekend. Operator Marvin is standing

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Speaker 1: by eight seven seven three DP show yes time. Are

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Speaker 1: you somehow so flattered if you're Trevor Lawrence that they

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Speaker 1: find all these ways to blow it? Especially the way

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Speaker 1: it went down yesterday? It's like, Wow, they really want me,

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Speaker 1: that this is the place for me. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is going The Jets tried to lose that game,

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Speaker 1: and as much as we want to blame Greg Williams. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's a very aggressive defensive coordinator. He loves to do

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Speaker 1: this and all out blitz. I have to put some

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Speaker 1: blame on these defensive backs. Let's say my defensive coordinator says,

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Speaker 1: all out blitz. Okay, I have an undrafted rookie I

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Speaker 1: think his name is Lamar Jackson, and he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be covering Henry Ruggs, who is probably one of the

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Speaker 1: top five fastest players in the sport. It's a double move,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I don't bite on the first move.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he's going to go out of bounds. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to use the out of bounds as a weapon,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to play as deep as possible no

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Speaker 1: matter what my defensive coordinator calls. As a grown as

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Speaker 1: man playing defense in the NFL, I have to say

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Speaker 1: the following, how do we lose this game? Somebody gets

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Speaker 1: behind me and that's what happened. Why I have an

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Speaker 1: undrafted rookie single coverage on Henry Rugs. We can argue

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Speaker 1: what's the only way we can lose If somebody gets

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Speaker 1: behind us and They made it look easy, and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't just one defensive back. They were all up like

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Speaker 1: twenty yards. You know, they're in the red zone. They

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Speaker 1: weren't in the end zone. Hey, we can put pressure

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Speaker 1: on Derek Carr. Okay, but at some point those defensive

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Speaker 1: backs have to know we have to play deep here.

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Speaker 1: We can't let somebody get behind us. And as much

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Speaker 1: as I can blame Greg will for calling the all outlets,

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Speaker 1: I also have to say to whoever is the secondary coach, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: all outlets. Don't let anybody get behind us. But the Jets,

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Speaker 1: Jags went into overtime against Minnesota Bay almost screwed up

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Speaker 1: their season as well. Yeah, Paully yesterday. As an organization,

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Speaker 1: it's like when a running back takes a knee at

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Speaker 1: the five to help his team win. The Jets did

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Speaker 1: that yesterday to help themselves long term, whether consciously or subconsciously. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think they did that on purpose. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Greg Williams goes. I mean, Greg Williams looks

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Speaker 1: bad today. Greg Williams is going to be out of

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Speaker 1: a job. That's not one of those where you go, Hey,

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Speaker 1: pretty good game there. Williams, are you going to get

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Speaker 1: another job? You're the defensive coordinator of the worst team

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Speaker 1: in Pro football right now, Adam Gays, offensive minded genius.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get another job, not as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe for a second that Greg Williams goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: know all outlets and I have single coverage on Henry Ruggs,

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Speaker 1: double move, but bite on it. I don't believe that

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Speaker 1: give your secondary the heads up or remind them whatever happens,

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Speaker 1: whatever happens, nobody gets behind you. Yes, McLevin, you know

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Speaker 1: his name was Lamar Jackson. You were right. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a lot to ask of a guy who's also

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Speaker 1: cover a guy? Okay, I mean, that's a lot. Did

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Speaker 1: I see what you did? There? See what you did?

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Speaker 1: What else do you have? McLevin, So, I put up

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Speaker 1: the poll do you think the Jets lost on purpose?

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Speaker 1: Just to see what people say? I just put up

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Speaker 1: on Dan Patrick dot com. But here's the other question.

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Speaker 1: What's it a good day for the Jets? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: mean Greg Williams isn't gonna be there, Adam Gaze isn't

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Speaker 1: sweep here. Let's just be bad, get it all out

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Speaker 1: and you know you just you have to purge here.

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Speaker 1: We're bad. We showed it. We showed it again. We

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Speaker 1: showed it a variety of ways, offensively, defensively, special teams, coaching,

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Speaker 1: head coach, defensive coordinator, quarterback play. We're done with all

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Speaker 1: of this. Let's just go into the offseason and then

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Speaker 1: we get Trevor Lawrence and then let's try to build

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Speaker 1: a team on a rookie contract at the quarterbacking position.

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Speaker 1: So I would say, yes, it is because if you

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Speaker 1: say I get Trevor Lawrence, even though I got embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: if I'm a Jets fan, I still have to look

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Speaker 1: at the prize at the end of all of this

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Speaker 1: past year with Minnesota. There was no Zion Williamson. Minnesota

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Speaker 1: And if Justin Fields is the reward, then you can

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Speaker 1: go is this worth it to go winless this season? Yeah? Paul.

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Speaker 1: What a weird position for Sam Darnold because obviously he

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Speaker 1: But if he plays well, which he's a competitor, he

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold would stay one more year if Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: got a quarterbacking situation with Philadelphia. I'd said prior to

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Speaker 1: and at times he showed he was fun yesterday, But

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Speaker 1: the Colts be interested in Carson Wentz. Those are questions

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Speaker 1: that loom heavily over this organization. But what Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: did yet, Like quietly, I don't know what game Tony

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, I'm putting him back in there. It's the

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Speaker 1: But that's what it looks like here. Taysom Hill played again. Yes,

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Speaker 1: good passing stats. Yes, congratulations. Taysom Hill has played well better,

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Speaker 1: Of all of the games this year, that might be

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Speaker 1: an MVP candidate. Tonight, Washington in Pittsburgh, the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: LSU should be ashamed. They lost by thirty seven to Auburn,

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Speaker 1: absolutely positively nothing in Alabama blows them out. Ohio State

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Speaker 1: It feels like they're going to manufacture massage the rules

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Speaker 1: Browns and Bills are good. I'm not gonna I can't

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Speaker 1: go very good with the Browns or the Bills. I

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Speaker 1: will say this, though, I love what the Browns did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing is is when teams shatter the lazy

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Speaker 1: narrative about him. Like last week, Dan I tweeted that

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski should be in the running for Coach of

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Speaker 1: the Year because he has the Cleveland Browns at eight

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Speaker 1: and three, and you know who replied to me some

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Speaker 1: guy named mclovin Andrew Perlof and said, yeah, but who

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Speaker 1: have they played? Who have they played? You know, they played, mclovin.

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Speaker 1: They've now played twelve NFL teams. They've won nine of

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Speaker 1: the games, including beating the brains off the Titans. They

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Speaker 1: beat the Colts. This whole schedule thing with the brown

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Speaker 1: they're the Browns. It's that we're talking about the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns and they're nine and three, and you've got back

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Speaker 1: row bumbling whatever is like mclovin saying, well, who have

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Speaker 1: they played? Though? Who have they even played? I'm still

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Speaker 1: mad at him about that. Yeah, but why do you

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Speaker 1: let it bother you? It's mclovin, like, you're better than that.

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Speaker 1: I know you're you're right, you're right. I just I

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Speaker 1: like getting fired up. I missed you guys. I haven't

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Speaker 1: been up there in a while. And so when mcloven

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Speaker 1: and then everybody's like, yeah, who they played? Oh? It

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Speaker 1: helps when you play the nfccs, this whole like, this

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Speaker 1: isn't college football, Like you play who's on your NFL

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Speaker 1: schedule and they beat nine NFL teams. Let me let me,

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Speaker 1: let me let mclovin, this is IVY League on IVY

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Speaker 1: League crime. Yeah, mcleov I mean Ross, honestly, I follow

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Speaker 1: you for the press box food recommendations. I just saw

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Speaker 1: it actual football tweets, so I felt like the need

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Speaker 1: to respond instead of the fact that they had chicken

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Speaker 1: marsala at the Colorado State press room. So I was

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Speaker 1: so taken aback by this. You know, mcloven, you mock

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Speaker 1: what you don't understand. Okay, those press box food videos

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Speaker 1: get terrific engagement. People love it, and maybe if you're

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Speaker 1: ever actually in a press box you would be able

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Speaker 1: to enjoy how delicious is By the way, I'm also Matt,

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Speaker 1: you got you get meat Friday, mclove and you can

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Speaker 1: just be quiet with the meat Friday trade grills so good.

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Speaker 1: I saw what Alan put out for you guys Friday.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to kill somebody. I wanted to eat that

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Speaker 1: so bad. Was Dartmouth your safe school? Didn't really consider it.

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Speaker 1: I was only looking at like real IVY League schools

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Speaker 1: like Harvard, Yale and Princeton. I mean, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go IVY League, Dan, why would you go to like

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Speaker 1: a second rate, second tier one? You know what I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: I agree, and that's why Harvard, Yale or Prince That's

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Speaker 1: why I didn't go because it was just the secondary

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Speaker 1: Ivy League schools. I didn't get the elite ones. I'll

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Speaker 1: leave you with this, Washington at Pittsburgh, Buffalo and San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Any surprises? Do you see an upset? Can Washington beat

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Speaker 1: the Steelers? Yeah? I think they can. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they will, but I actually think both these games are

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Speaker 1: gonna be awesome football games today because the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: coming in this one. They're limping a little bit. No,

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Speaker 1: James Connor, they just played Wednesday. Washington's playing better. Washington

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Speaker 1: hasn't played in eleven days. Pittsburgh played five days ago.

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Speaker 1: I think Washington has a real chance to win this game.

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Speaker 1: And then I think tonight Bill's Niners from Arizona will

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Speaker 1: be very entry. We had a great Monday on tap.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have a good experience when you played

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Speaker 1: in Washington? Yes? I did because we were oh and

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Speaker 1: five my rookie year, and then we won our next five.

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Speaker 1: And Marty Schottenheimer, I think I had nine head coaches

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Speaker 1: dan in seven years. Do the math on that one.

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Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer was awesome. I love that guy. I love

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Speaker 1: that team. We won five in a row off we

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Speaker 1: started out oh and five, so yeah, that was actually

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Speaker 1: a great experience and Washington would have been so far

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Speaker 1: ahead of things. But then Daniel Snyder fired him after

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Speaker 1: one year because Marty wouldn't let Daniel Snyder make the

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Speaker 1: decisions with the front office, so he got fired after

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Speaker 1: one year. Brought in Spurrier, easily the worst coach I

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Speaker 1: ever had, so arguably the best coach I ever had

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Speaker 1: to the worst just because Daniel Snyder wanted to call

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Speaker 1: the shots. Spurrier is so bad, didn't put the time in,

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Speaker 1: didn't understand protections at the NFL level. We had two

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Speaker 1: protection I mean I remember playing I started every preseason

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Speaker 1: game for him in O two. We had two protections Dan,

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Speaker 1: and there were no hot reads, no sight adjusts. So

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Speaker 1: you're just supposed to audible to the other protection or

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Speaker 1: to a different play based on what the defense is showing. Well,

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, if they show the guys are coming

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Speaker 1: from the left, they're coming from the right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was I could, I mean I could do a

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Speaker 1: whole segment on Spurrier. He was not a good coach,

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Speaker 1: but we kind of liked him because if it rained,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't have practice. He didn't want to stand in

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Speaker 1: the rain, so we used to root for rain just

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Speaker 1: so we don't have to practice that day. Did he

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Speaker 1: know your name because he famously did not know the

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Speaker 1: names of his players, especially on defense. Oh no, he

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Speaker 1: knew my name because one time in a team meeting

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Speaker 1: I got push back against the Steelers. I gave up

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Speaker 1: like four yards to Casey Hampton and uh. In them

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Speaker 1: team meeting, Spurrier said, Hey, Tucker, uh uh, these are

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Speaker 1: like those guys from Yale or Brown. These guys made

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Speaker 1: business up here. You're getting pushed back. Meanwhile, Dan Casey

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Speaker 1: Hampton's like the strongest dude in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: I was actually pretty happy that I only gave up

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Speaker 1: four yards to push on the play. But everybody, all

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Speaker 1: the guys are dying laughing, and I just I was

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Speaker 1: kind of over the Ivy League thing at that point,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't I didn't take it very well. And

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Speaker 1: he came up to me at the practice is like,

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Speaker 1: you're mad at me. I'm like, no, I'm not mad you,

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Speaker 1: but like to my second year, now, can we get

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Speaker 1: past the Ivy League thing like I'm here now, like

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Speaker 1: so anyway, poor guy being held back by going to Princeton. Man,

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Speaker 1: I really feel bad for you. It's it's something I've

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Speaker 1: had to try to overcome my entire professional career. It's

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Speaker 1: always great to talk to you. Safe travels there, buddy.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it, and as always, thank you Ross. All Right,

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Speaker 1: see dudes, Rosstucker The Rosstucker Football Podcast. Listen you might

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00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: learn something. Be sure to catch the live edition of

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six

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Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: WAP is Carson Wentz going to get benched because Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts showed me enough yesterday against Green Bay, gave them

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Speaker 1: a spark. Let me see what he can do. You

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Speaker 1: drafted him in the second round. I know there's hurt feelings.

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Speaker 1: There's already hurt feelings with Carson Wentz. He had hurt

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Speaker 1: feelings when you drafted Jalen Hurts. It's a big boy business.

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Speaker 1: That can't affect how you play. You know what affects

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Speaker 1: how you play? You not? You drafted Jalen Hurts, and

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Speaker 1: now my confidence is decimated. Here go out and play.

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Speaker 1: I said last week, I would sit down Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: I would let him sit down for a couple of

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Speaker 1: games because playing him is not helping his confidence. And

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Speaker 1: as I said last hour, your only hope in Philadelphia

555
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Speaker 1: is Frank Wich convince his ownership. Chris Ballard the GM

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Speaker 1: with the Colts. Let's trade for Carson Wentz in the offseason.

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00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers needs foot surgery. You're gonna get everything you

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Speaker 1: can out of him this year, and then perhaps you

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Speaker 1: move on. Maybe you reunite Frank Reich with Carson Wentz.

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00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: If not, now you got a real mess because you're

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Speaker 1: going to have an unbelievable salary cap hit sixty million

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: if you cut him, and then the following year if

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00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: you get rid of him, forty million dollars. But you

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Speaker 1: drafted Jalen Hurts. Let's see what he has to do.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what he can do. And it's Philadelphia against

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Speaker 1: the Eagles this weekend. I'd love to see Taysom Hill

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Speaker 1: against Jalen Hurts. Whole question, McLevin from the first hour

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Speaker 1: the first hour, were the Jets lousier on purpose or

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Speaker 1: do you think they were? Said no, that I switched

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Speaker 1: it up to Aaron Rodgers versus Patrick Mahomes for the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers early leader, Well, I figured you're not as

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00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: annoyed by Eagles topic right now for some reason, so

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Speaker 1: I could get in the other topic that annoys you,

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Speaker 1: the NFL MVP. No. I just think the Eagles need

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Speaker 1: to find out what they have with Jalen Hurts, and

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is just going to get these bad habits

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Speaker 1: ingrained in him, and then you wonder if he can

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Speaker 1: get it out of his DNA. But at some point

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Speaker 1: I have to go, hey, Carson, I'm gonna sit you down.

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Speaker 1: Even if you put put him on the injured reserve list,

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Speaker 1: just say that he's got some injury there, and you

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Speaker 1: put him on the injured reserve list. Let him have

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Speaker 1: a graceful exit here. But I need to find out

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Speaker 1: if Jalen Hurts can play plain and simple. I thought

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Speaker 1: he provided a spark, and I was kind of surprised

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Speaker 1: the offensive line looked a little bit better when Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts was in there for some reason, then Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: when he was in there. Yes, mclovin another pole option,

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00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: and we've done this a lot, which coaching vacancy would

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Speaker 1: you be most interested in? Say you're Eric the Enemy.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a new entry in it. You got

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Speaker 1: the Texans, the Lions, the Jets, maybe the Bears. How

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00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: about the LA Chargers now, because they're I think that's

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Speaker 1: an attractive thing for Eric the Enemy to have. Justin Herbert,

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00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: that's an embarrassing You know, there are a couple of

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Speaker 1: embarrassing losses this weekend. LSU a thirty point underdog against

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Speaker 1: Alabama and Alabama covered, and then you had the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Anthony lenna is dead man walking there. Because you're trying

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Speaker 1: to compete. This is the LA market, and you do

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Speaker 1: have some players there. You do have some talent there,

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Speaker 1: but you can't lose forty five to nothing when the

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the team that had forty five didn't throw

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Speaker 1: for one hundred yards. And by the way, I'd hate

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Speaker 1: to be a running back with the Patriots when the

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Speaker 1: ball's inside the five because there's no chance I'm getting

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Speaker 1: that ball none. I think Cam goes, here's the play,

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Speaker 1: I get the ball, block, ready break, That's it. But

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00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: Patriots picked up the win, and this time the Chargers

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Speaker 1: didn't blow it in dramatic fashion. I mean it was over,

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Speaker 1: and they made sure that it was over, forty five

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Speaker 1: to nothing. The Giants have won four out The Giants

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Speaker 1: started out one in seven. This is the longest streak

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Speaker 1: since a six game winning streak in sixteen. And then

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Speaker 1: you had Colt McCoy who got the start, his first

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Speaker 1: win as a starter since twenty fourteen. He was with

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Speaker 1: Washington back then and they were the better team, played

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Speaker 1: great defense. But you know, there's always a couple of

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Speaker 1: surprises this late in the season. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you have one tonight, Washington at Pittsburgh, the Bills at

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Speaker 1: the Niners, Dallas against Baltimore coming up on Wednesday. But

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Speaker 1: this is the time of year when you have something

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Speaker 1: that happens where you go where did that one come from?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll see a surprise now. Has

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Speaker 1: there been a surprise that's equal to the Giants going

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00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: to Seattle in a game Seattle had to have because

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00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: the Rams won again, You're ten and a half point

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Speaker 1: favorites against the Giants with a backup quarterback. Remarkable, But

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Speaker 1: the Giants, they play hard, they play good defense, and

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Speaker 1: they got just enough plays there. Yeah, Paully, if I

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Speaker 1: would have told you in late September early October that

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson will again not get one single MVP votes.

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Speaker 1: That's where we're at right now. Yeah, he's out, he's

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Speaker 1: out of the mix. Now. Now it's it's a two

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Speaker 1: man game absolutely with Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes, and

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with either one of them if

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Speaker 1: they win it. Like this has been week to week.

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Speaker 1: You know, wasn't that long ago where we're trying to

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Speaker 1: put Tom Brady in there and Russell Wilson was in there.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger was in there. All it takes. It feels

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Speaker 1: like is one game. You know, Kansas City has looked great,

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Speaker 1: they really haven't. They allow you to stay in the game.

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Speaker 1: As much as we look at that offense and going, boy,

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Speaker 1: they're potent, they don't put you away, and that would

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Speaker 1: be a concern. Not a huge concern, but it's a

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Speaker 1: concern when I get to the postseason. I gotta put

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Speaker 1: teams away because those teams are usually a whole lot

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Speaker 1: better than the Denver Broncos. You gotta Carolina Panthers, you

648
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Speaker 1: gotta put teams away. We saw that in the postseason

649
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Speaker 1: they could be down double digits. They can come back

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Speaker 1: from that, but they allow teams to hang around and

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Speaker 1: that could come back to haunt them in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: guy loves Aaron Rodgers. Chris Simms, who joins us on

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Speaker 1: host on Peacock two man Race here for MVP, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, you know, Derrick Henry going

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Speaker 1: into the weekend, I kind of put him on the

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Speaker 1: top three you know lists there, but of course yesterday

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Speaker 1: a little underwhelming, and yeah, I tend you know me.

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Speaker 1: I mean now, so I'm a little biased toward Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: We know that that's my favorite quarterback. Ever, I do

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Speaker 1: think he's amazing and for what it's worth this year,

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Speaker 1: I really do think right now he is the leader

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Speaker 1: in the clubhouse as the MVP. Will you talk about

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Speaker 1: everything he's doing, the support system around him and everything

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Speaker 1: like that. I think it's a pretty amazing year. If

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Speaker 1: I put Rogers on the Chiefs and Mahomes and Mahomes

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Speaker 1: on the Packers, how much of a change That's a

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Speaker 1: good question. I don't know if there'd be a whole

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Speaker 1: lot changing as far as wins and losses. It might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a different way in which

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Speaker 1: each guy goes about it with their own personal flair

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00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: and things like that. But I still think for the

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Speaker 1: most part, you'd have Kansas City sitting there with one loss.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, maybe Mahomes is better than Rogers

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Speaker 1: is a pure player right now at this point of

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Speaker 1: his career. There's no doubt about that. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the game. So I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe they don't lose that Tampa game, or Rogers

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Speaker 1: throws two picks early or something like that, But I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it'll be a whole lot different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I've got Travis Kelsey, who Orlovsky said is the

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Speaker 1: best non quarterback, most valuable non quarterback in the game.

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Speaker 1: Rogers hesn't have that. I mean, Demontech is wonderful, but

689
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Speaker 1: you put a Tyreek Hill, you put that four by

690
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: one hundred relay team out there, and then you put Hilaire.

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Speaker 1: They got a good offensive line, offensive minded head coach

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Speaker 1: and Andy Reid. I don't know, I know, I know

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Speaker 1: you're preaching the choir here, you know that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is something there. I do think people lose sight

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Speaker 1: of that fact sometimes that Mahomes as awesome as he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could talk about Travis Kelsey, and honestly, he's the

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Speaker 1: second thing people worry about when teams by Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: The first guy they're worried about is Tyreek Hill. So

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Speaker 1: imagine having Travis Kelsey is the second option, and then

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Speaker 1: when they get Sammy Watkins back healthy, you go, oh man,

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Speaker 1: now there's another matchup you have to worry about. So

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Speaker 1: for the greatness of Mahomes, You're right, there's phenomenal talent

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Speaker 1: there that sometimes does get lost in translation. With that

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Speaker 1: whole conversation I do have. It's not a big concern,

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Speaker 1: but it's something I'm just filing away. Kansas City doesn't

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Speaker 1: put teams away, No, they do not. It's on their

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Speaker 1: offense to put the teams away. Right. We know their

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Speaker 1: defense is it's not built to do that. They have

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Speaker 1: one superstar player and Chris Jones. You know, they have

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger who makes a few plays here and there,

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Speaker 1: and Frank Clark and other than that, it's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of good with some really creative coaching by Steve Spagnolo.

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Speaker 1: But that's the second week in a row, right Dan,

714
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Speaker 1: where last week they let the Bucks hang around, wide

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Speaker 1: open ninety yard touchdown past the McCole Hartman. There's nine

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Speaker 1: billion dollars on that Chief's offense. It's on them to

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Speaker 1: put these teams away, and you saw it last night

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Speaker 1: with the field goals and not scoring touchdowns. They let

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Speaker 1: the Broncos hang around and never really delivered that final

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Speaker 1: dagger until really, really late. Did the Jets have a

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Speaker 1: good day yesterday? Yes they did, I mean until the

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Speaker 1: last six seconds, But there was a lot to be

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Speaker 1: happy about until then. I mean, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: else to say. That's one of the dumbest calls I've

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Speaker 1: seen in the history of football, it really is. But

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Speaker 1: the last six seconds were the best part of their day. Chris,

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Speaker 1: you're right. If you ask a Jets fan, it is

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Speaker 1: you're right because I was sitting here in the NBC

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Speaker 1: viewing room, which you know you've sat and in it before,

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Speaker 1: and we got a few Jet fans and they were

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Speaker 1: heartbroken that the Jets were leading late in the football game.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't believe. They were distraught, and they went crazy

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Speaker 1: happy when the touchdown happened. So, you know, I'm one Dan.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel, but it seems like

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Speaker 1: most Jets fans are over Sam Darnold and are ready

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Speaker 1: to draft Trevor Lawrence and they want to start that era.

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Speaker 1: And I think it might be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a rush to judgment, but I understand the conversation and thought, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to get on that rookie contract with my

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Speaker 1: quarterback and then start to build there, get a new

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Speaker 1: coach in there, new defensive courting, you own new coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: all of that, and then see what I have now.

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Speaker 1: I was told yesterday, don't be surprised if the Jets

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Speaker 1: would hold on to Sam Darnold one more year. If

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Speaker 1: they do take Trevor Lawrence, oh wow, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about that. I don't know how that would help them.

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Speaker 1: I would think that would just lessen his value for

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Speaker 1: a trade or anything like that. Plus, you don't want

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence coming in and having to deal with some

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Speaker 1: of the faction of the locker room that are Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold supporters, or any thing that wouldn't be a recipe

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Speaker 1: for success. I would think they could get a second

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Speaker 1: rounder for Sam Darneld. You know at some point in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. The tough thing about Sam Darnold is we

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00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what he is yet. You know, every

756
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: time he starts to play, he gets hurt, or he

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00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: gets mono, or then he gets hurt again. So we've

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Speaker 1: never seen extended, consistent good play from him. I know

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Speaker 1: the Jets, a lot of people there in that organization

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Speaker 1: really think highly of them. But I think, Dad, to

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Speaker 1: your point, this is gonna be who's going to start

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Speaker 1: this trend? Who is it gonna be who's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the first team that finally says, you know, we have

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Speaker 1: a good team, and even though we win in our quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he's not the franchise. We're good no matter what, and

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Speaker 1: we're not going to pay him thirty eight million dollars

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Speaker 1: and ruin our team. Who is going to be the

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Speaker 1: first team to do that? That's really what I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for. I was also wondering about this when I

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Speaker 1: saw what the Jets did, and I went back to

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Speaker 1: the previous drive. So the Jets give up the game

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Speaker 1: winner double move. There's no help over the top. They

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Speaker 1: go all out blitzing. You know, Vegas was fourth and

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Speaker 1: three in the red zone with one forty five to

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Speaker 1: go or something like that. They're down four. Williams called

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Speaker 1: a blitz again, brought seven defenders, and Derek Carr panicked

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Speaker 1: and you know, had an incompletion, threw it off his

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Speaker 1: back foot. They had to know. They kept Darren Waller

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Speaker 1: in on the final drive, the final play two block.

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00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: Your best receiver is being kept into block, so they

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Speaker 1: knew what was happening. They knew Williams was going to

782
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Speaker 1: send a blitz. I was just I didn't understand an

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Speaker 1: undrafted rookie on rugs and with no help and then

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Speaker 1: biting on a double move like that that. I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: What role does the coaching staff play in telling these

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Speaker 1: grown men, hey, whatever you do, don't let somebody get

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Speaker 1: behind you. Well, it doesn't matter because you know, there's

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Speaker 1: so many things that break down there. You know. First off, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talk about the pressure in the series before. On

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Speaker 1: the fourth down and he throws the incomplete best. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a different ballgame, right to blitz down there.

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00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: You got the end zone behind you. You don't have

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00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: to worry about deep passes things like that. To do

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00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: that where they did, there's so many things. First off,

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00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: John Gruden probably has better understanding of Greg Williams defense

796
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: than any other defensive coordinator in football. My six years

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00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: with John Gruden, Man, when we played Greg Williams, he

798
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: used to call plays every now and then. I'll be like, man,

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Speaker 1: is he expecting a blitz here? He's crazy. If he

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Speaker 1: thinks they're gonna blitz, I'd get up underneath the center

801
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: and be like, man, Johnny Gordon is right, they're gonna blitz.

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00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Holy cow, I can't believe this. I was shocked by it.

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00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: So he has great field, there's a little personal rivalry there,

804
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: and you're right, obviously he knew that. And the poor

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00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: undrafted corner for the Jets. What is he supposed to do? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want to tell him, don't bite on any double moves.

807
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: But if he lets, if Henry Ruggs catches the slant,

808
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: he's not going to be fast enough to catch him

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00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: there and make the tackle either. So he's really was

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00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: putting a no win situation, and there's just no other

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Speaker 1: way to say it other than that was just a

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00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: horrible call. Or I don't know, Greg Williams is deliberately

813
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: trying to stick it to Adam Gates and the Jets

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00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: and wanting to blow the game. I don't know. Are

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Speaker 1: the Browns a good team or a very good team? Ooh,

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00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go with good team, But the last

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00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: two weeks make because I'm starting to think, oh, maybe

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00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 1: they are a very good team. They have two elite

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Speaker 1: things about their football team, in my opinion, Dan. The

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Speaker 1: first thing is their run game. You know that the

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Speaker 1: offensive line is special. They have the best line on

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Speaker 1: line coach in football and Bill Callahan. And then that

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Speaker 1: two headed monster or running back. And then the other

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Speaker 1: great advantage I look at them always is they have

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Speaker 1: a front four that could get to the quarterback without

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Speaker 1: blitzing or doing anything like that. And that's going to

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Speaker 1: help and play off football when you can run the

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Speaker 1: ball and pressure the quarterback and Baker Mayfield playing with

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Speaker 1: some confidence and not turning the ball over and doing that,

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Speaker 1: they're on the verge I think of being very good.

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Speaker 1: But I'm still gonna go with good for right now,

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Speaker 1: and you bring up a couple of really good points.

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00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: When it comes to postseason football, do you travel? Your

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00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: running game travels. You got a good offensive line, You've

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Speaker 1: got a defensive front that can put some pressure on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's going to come down to Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: not getting squirreling. I mean, it really is going to

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00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: come down to that. I mean, that's Stefanski has done

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Speaker 1: a wonderful job as a rookie head coach. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. The Rams good are very good. Oh

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00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna say good too. I think the one

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00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: part of their team that you know, I still question

843
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. And Jared Goff was really good yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But when they play really good defenses and they can't

845
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Speaker 1: run the ball and they're drop back pass game, win

846
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: them football games. I think that's still a question mark

847
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: for me. But they're on that same thing there, just

848
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: on the cusp of being very good, I mean, little inconsistent.

849
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: But that's the interesting about the NFC right now. The NFC,

850
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: it just it seems like it's so up for grabs

851
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: and has a chance, I think to be a really

852
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: exciting playoff run because the teams are so close and

853
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: so equal. I'm gonna make you Doug Peterson for a

854
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: week starting quarterback against the Saints, is oh? I I

855
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: think I would probably go to Jalen Hurtz. Finally, I

856
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: would do it for two reasons. One, Carson Wentz is

857
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: a beaten puppy. I mean, he's just it's everything's his fault.

858
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Even when it's not his fault, we all blame him.

859
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: So I think he's kind of like deer in the

860
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: headlights right now. The team needs a little new energy,

861
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: new lift, and I think at the very least, Okay,

862
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: if he does well, you go, hey, look he did well.

863
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: This is great. But if he fails, you can then

864
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: maybe quiet some of the critics too. Then go, look,

865
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: see he wasn't quite ready yet. Let's just give him time.

866
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: We'll still play with them and use them in certain situations.

867
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: But I think about Philly right now, I probably do

868
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: make that move. Yeah, I do too. And I wonder

869
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: the value of Carson Wentz in the off season. It's

870
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: a valid question. I think there's no way they can

871
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: get rid of him because of the salary cap situation.

872
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: It's such a big deadcap money, and I think there's

873
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: still if Doug Peterson's there, there's still enough believers. I

874
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: think that coaching staff's realistic enough to know, hey, the

875
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: kids got talent. We haven't done the best job with him.

876
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: And then of course Howie Roseman and some of the

877
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: bust on the offensive side of the ball, with draft

878
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: picks and things like that, it's not exactly talent around

879
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: him either. So I think they're going to give him

880
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: one more shot almost no matter what happens the rest

881
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: of this year. Yeah, we were wondering about the value

882
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: of Carson Wentz, and I said value maybe for the

883
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: Colts and Frank Rich can reunite those two after Philadelphia.

884
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what Sam Good thought, but Sam Darnold's

885
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: value on the open market, I don't know what kind

886
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: of value that would be. I don't know what the

887
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: Patriots are going to do. I don't know what San

888
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: Francisco is going to do with Atlanta's Detroit Lions. Yeah, yeah,

889
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't know that. I

890
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: did want to bring this up before we go, Bill Belichick,

891
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: what he did on the road against the Chargers, I

892
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: mean forty five to nothing, and Cam throws for less

893
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: than a hundred yards. I don't know what Belichick is doing.

894
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: You watch the All twenty two so you see whatever.

895
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: There's no greater game plan adjusting coach in the history

896
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: of sports, in my opinion, than Belichick from saris to series,

897
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, quarter to quarter, game to game, he somehow

898
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: does something with an offense that's you know is make sure. Yeah,

899
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: but was that impressive what they did against the Chargers?

900
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: Definitely very impressive. Now, the Chargers, you know, with their

901
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: special teams issues, always find ways to make teams look better, right,

902
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: But that's the new England is playing almost perfect football

903
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: and all three phases of the game for about five

904
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: six weeks straight now, and that's because of the head coach.

905
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: That's where Dan, you and I had the conversation nineteen.

906
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: For Get the damn talent on the team or anything.

907
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: The fact that Belichick couldn't be there coaching them and

908
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: on them of all the details and all that. That

909
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: was the biggest issue they had during COVID nineteen. But

910
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: the big thing about them Cam manages the game the

911
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: right way. The offensive line is one of the best

912
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: in football as far as running is concerned, and they

913
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: run the proper plays into the right look every time.

914
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: And then you know their defense and everything there. That

915
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: Chargers team, it's a top ten defense, a top ten offense.

916
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: To get blown out like that, it's pretty embarrassing, and

917
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: I would think Anthony Lane's a little in trouble there.

918
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: But would you rather face the Bills of the Patriots

919
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: in the postseason? Oh? I would probably. The Bills are

920
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: playing better. You got me stumbling all over myself here.

921
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: I'd probably want to see the Bills. I probably would.

922
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: You're right. The Patriots coming too the town with that

923
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: run game, running the clock, that second dairy, and the

924
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: things they can do there to shut down just about

925
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: any passing unit in football, I think would be very scary.

926
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: That's a close one, but I think because of the

927
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: Patriots mystique, I'd probably rather see the Bills than the Patriots.

928
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris, as always. We appreciate you getting up

929
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: with us. You the man I've been up for a while.

930
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: And tell all those good guys, I said, hello, good guys. Yeah,

931
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: these guys say stuff behind your back, though, Chris, all right,

932
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: I take you back. Tell those jerks, I said, oh, okay,

933
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: that's better. That's better. Thank you. That's Chris sims on

934
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: loan from Peacock, Pro football talk co host and of course,

935
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: football Night in America. Fox Sports Radio has the best

936
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,799
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Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the

938
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Search f SR to listen live quarterback from

939
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame Fighting iarrach In book joining us on

940
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: the program. The Irish now second in the country at

941
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: ten a no, defeating Syracuse over the weekend. Good morning, Ian,

942
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing great? How are you? I'm

943
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: doing okay. Um. Did you have an NFL team you're

944
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: rooted for growing up? I did, yeah, as the forty

945
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: nine Ers. I grew up a fan and still I'm

946
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: a fan. So watch every game on Sunday, and you know,

947
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: you start to look at these teams as you you're

948
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: going to be draft eligible here coming up here in

949
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. What have you been told as

950
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: far as your your pro prospects or what the scouts

951
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: might think about your talent. A lot of people right

952
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: now are just saying focus on the season and uh,

953
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, let that take care of itself. But it's

954
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: been a dream blind to play in the NFL, and

955
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. So um, you know,

956
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm ready for that, and I'll be willing to go wherever, whenever.

957
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: It's just a dream of mine and I don't care

958
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: where it'll be. So who were you compared to who's

959
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL? A lot of people. I mean,

960
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: this is big praise because you know, Russell Wilson's probably

961
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: my favorite, but a lot of people say, you know,

962
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, maybe by Baker Mayfield, a couple of the

963
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: shorter guys, which is cool. I love watching them all

964
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and it's just fun to see how the

965
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: league with quarterbacks has changing a little bit. It's definitely motivating.

966
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: Are you a runner or a scrambler? Uh, that's a

967
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: good question. I probably scrambler when it breaks down, you know,

968
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: I think I can make some plays with my feet

969
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: and keep the play alive. And that's just kind of

970
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: how I've been playing the game since you know, I

971
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: started in third grade. This is what I would say,

972
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: just a little bit of advice whenever you talk to

973
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: a scout or a coach, general manager, anybody, just say

974
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: I'm here to help you win. That's it. That's that's

975
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: all you do, because that's what you do in college.

976
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: That's all Russell Wilson did when he was in college.

977
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm just here to help you win because they're gonna go, well,

978
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: you're six feet are you a legitimate six feet? I'm

979
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: a legitimate at six feet? Yeah, okay, because they're gonna

980
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: go six feet? Um? Okay, how's your arms strength? Does

981
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: he run? Does he have happy feet? Does he run

982
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: too soon? Like all of these things are, they're gonna

983
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: pick you apart, and you gotta be really confident in

984
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: yourself to just say through all of it, I don't

985
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: care what you break me down. I win. That's what

986
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm here to do. I'm here to win, all right,

987
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: yes sir, okay, but let's try it here, all right? Okay.

988
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: So if I say, man, I'm looking at the tape here, Um,

989
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you pull it down and run

990
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: too much? Here? How's the arms strength there? Um? I

991
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Ian helped me out trying to understand your

992
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: talents here. Yeah, I'm just I just played to win.

993
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm here to here to move the team, you know,

994
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: move the chains and squaw on offense. I'm here to win,

995
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: all right. There you go. Just say it over and

996
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: over and over. Don't get defensive when they start to

997
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: pick you apart because I've been with some of the

998
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: best who've ever played it and they all got picked

999
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: apart as well. Who's who gets your Heisman vote if

1000
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: you had one, I don't know. I think Kyle Trask

1001
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: is really good. I've been watching him, um you know,

1002
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: watch his game last week, and I think he's doing

1003
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: really well and he's fun to watch and he's really

1004
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: elevated his game right now. Okay, I don't understand why

1005
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: you don't get any credit here and I and I

1006
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: and I say that having you on, but I've said

1007
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: that before you came on. I don't. I mean, you

1008
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: put up really good numbers and you win, but you're

1009
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: not put in the conversation of great quarter I'm talking

1010
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: to college quarterbacks. We tend to lump quarterbacks in what

1011
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: they're going to be like when they get to the NFL.

1012
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about what you do in college, and

1013
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm surprised at. I think you should be

1014
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: certainly in the conversation for a Heisman finalist. I don't

1015
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: know if you're going to get there, but you win

1016
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: and you're the second year ran ranked second in the country.

1017
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: So help me understand what you hear as to why

1018
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: you're not lumped in with any of these other quarterbacks

1019
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: right now. You know, I'm not. You know, I'm not

1020
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure. There's probably a lot of reasons

1021
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: out there, but you know, one of them could be

1022
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: just because we're at Notre Dame. Either love us or

1023
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: you hate us. It's one of the others. So you know,

1024
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people you know, talked about, you know,

1025
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: a conference, you know they can't win if they were

1026
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: to join a conference, or just a lot of things

1027
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: like that. And we were able to join a conference

1028
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: this year and you know, go undefeated in it. So, um,

1029
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: did you hate Notre Dame growing up? No, I didn't.

1030
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: Come on. I grew up, you know, really watching the

1031
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: PAC twelve on the West Coast and really fortunate to

1032
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: get out here. I'm really glad I did. It's been

1033
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: an unbelievable experience. But I didn't hate Notre Dame like

1034
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people do. If it wasn't Notre Dame,

1035
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: where were you going. I was committed to Washington State.

1036
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: That's where I was gonna go. I was gonna join

1037
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: the Air Raid and playing the Pac twelve, and I

1038
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: ended up making the switch. Well, I think you made

1039
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: a pretty good switch there. When's the last time Coach

1040
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: Kelly yelled at you during the game? During the game

1041
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: and we had a fumble sell And that's on the

1042
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: quarterback always, And I definitely heard from him a little

1043
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: bit on the sideline, but you know, he's been really

1044
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: good on the sideline just this whole entire year. So

1045
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: he came back and gave me some support and we

1046
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: were able to finish the deal. Do you have a

1047
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: dresser behind you? What's in those draws? What's in those

1048
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: drawers behind you? I don't know. It's a good question.

1049
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: Can you get up and just open it up and

1050
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: just let me know if there's anything like it? That's

1051
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: just just some file cabinets. Get some secret stuff in there,

1052
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: some Notre Dame stuff, some must some stuff that you'll

1053
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: use against Clemson in the ACC type. Yeah, weeks to prepare,

1054
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: it's all in there. How much should bother you? With

1055
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence not playing, you guys beat Clemson and then

1056
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: you hear, well, but Trevor Lawrence didn't play right. Um,

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00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: I kind of ignored it because I kept saying, well,

1058
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence doesn't play defense, so it was the same

1059
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: for us. And my job is to win, right, That's

1060
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: what we said, My jobs to win as a quarterback.

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00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: And whoever were they were gonna eleven guys they were

1062
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna put out there on defense is what we were

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00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: going to go against. And I think it'll be good

1064
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: that he's back, and you know, hopefully we can get

1065
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: those people to be quiet, because that's what I've heard

1066
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot, just like you have. How much of an

1067
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: advantage is it to have two weeks to prepare for Clemson? Yeah?

1068
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: A lot. I mean it's good just to finish the

1069
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: regular season, have two weeks now just to rest up,

1070
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, mentally and physically, and just to play a

1071
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: team twice is always hard. So it's going to be

1072
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: fun to get back to the drawing boards. I'm really

1073
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: excited about it. You already have your degree, yes, sir?

1074
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: And what business marketing? Are you going to get a master's?

1075
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm currently a non degree seeking fifth year,

1076
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: so that means you don't do anything. What does that mean?

1077
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: I was a non degree seeking like sophomore, so basically

1078
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: I have to take one I had to take one

1079
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: grad class and then two classes or whatever I wanted.

1080
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: I ended up taking three Irish Studies classes. Really enjoyed

1081
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: it because I was I was going to go to

1082
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: Ireland and then COVID hit. We were going to play

1083
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: in Dublin. But I figured might as well, you know,

1084
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: learn about some of the culture. So I took three

1085
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: Irish Studies classes this year. It was fun. Are you

1086
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: studying Guinness? No, of course not. Have you seen the

1087
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: movie Witness? I have not. I have not. Have you

1088
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: so you know nothing about this Harrison Ford movie where

1089
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: his name is John Book. No, I do not. I

1090
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: need to watch it. Then, yes, I you're gonna love it,

1091
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: by the way, Okay, okay, but but watch film on Clemson.

1092
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: I don't want people thinking, oh, he's not watching Clemson.

1093
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: He's watching a movie called Witness because the character is

1094
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: John Book and it's Harrison Ford. I gotta watch it.

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: I'll find time. I'll find time to watch it. Okay,

1096
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: all right, what's your nickname? They don't call you like Bookie,

1097
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: do they? Or no? So I mean, there's a lot

1098
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: you can do with my last name, but I don't

1099
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: think I ever had a nickname. Ian's short enough, and

1100
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: it's just kind of been I in and that's the

1101
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: way it's gone. Well, congratitors from the iBook once like

1102
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: an iPad, you know how that goes. But that's about it.

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01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: I book. Yeah, I like the end. We'll just stay

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01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: with that. Well, congratul on the season so far. The

1105
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: ACC title game against Clemson is December nineteenth. What do

1106
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: you do better than Trevor Lawrence m when? Now, well,

1107
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: wait a minute, his winning percentage, he's act question. He's

1108
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: thirty three and one, you're thirty and three. He's got me.

1109
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: Then he's got me. That's the right answer there. Now,

1110
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: do you do something where you go, look, you're a competitor. Yeah,

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: I think, like what we talked about earlier, being able

1112
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: to scramble and keep my eyes up and keep the

1113
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: play alive. He can do that too, but I'm doing

1114
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: that for a long time. I think that's one thing

1115
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: that can help us win, like you said, help us

1116
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: move the chains. So well, good luck, Hey, great to

1117
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: talk to you. Congrats on the season, and were you

1118
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: more emotional your first day on campus or your last game.

1119
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: Probably the last game. Yeah, I had my family and

1120
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: senior day and just the fact that it was gonna

1121
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: be my last time playing in that unbelievable stadium. It's

1122
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: a night I'll remember forever. And I was definitely a

1123
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: little bit emotional and had to, you know, my family

1124
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: with me, and that's who I wanted to be with,

1125
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to leave the field, so I

1126
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: was out there for a long time. You cry, No,

1127
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: my mom was crying though. It was pretty sad. Trevor

1128
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: Lawrence would have cried. He might have. I don't know.

1129
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: It was it was sweet, bitter sweet. No, that's a

1130
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: lot of great memories in that place. Ian, thank you,

1131
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and good luck against Clemson. Thank

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01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: you very much. Thanks for having me. That's Ian book.

1133
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,840
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1134
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,720
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01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,640
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