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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Elli. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: This is our number two of the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio, and Matt, it's time for the Fantasy Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: It's a little toughest time you here at this part

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Speaker 1: of the point of the year. You've probably picked up

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Speaker 1: every the waiver wires have been scoured. There's nobody out

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Speaker 1: there that's like, oh, I gotta grab that guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty rare for a big opportunity to pop up.

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Speaker 2: But last week somebody picked up Ty Chandler and we're

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Speaker 2: happy about it, and you know, be smart about it.

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately half of you guys like us are out

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Speaker 2: of it now and you're not as interested. And you

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Speaker 2: know that's just the audience dwindles a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: it's relevant for the rest of the league as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at some of these matchups here.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about the quarterbacks and the defenses that

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Speaker 1: we might be interested in streaming, or the quarterbacks you

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Speaker 1: might be interested in playing because of the matchups this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and we're starting to dfs and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so of course the first game of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: well for starting Thursday night, I guess we should probably

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Speaker 1: start with that. Yeah, yeah, you get the Saints at

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Speaker 1: the Rams.

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Speaker 2: This is a big game in the NFC, A big game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Saints aren't in first place in the

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Speaker 2: South right now, but they're they are fighting with you know,

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Speaker 2: Tampa for the division lead, as well as Minnesota, the

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Speaker 2: Rams and uh Seattle know after winning last night for

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Speaker 2: you know, a spot to get in as a wildcard.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think the South had any chance to get

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Speaker 2: a wild card. If they win here, they would go

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Speaker 2: a long way to getting the Saints in the playoffs something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you interested in either one of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: or defenses in those games?

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Speaker 2: The Stafford's hard to sit right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kind of on a roll. Yeah so yes,

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Speaker 1: so I guess then you're not starting the New Orleans defense.

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Speaker 2: I don't love it. I bet we could find better ones.

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Speaker 2: Rams d's playing well over their head in terms of talent.

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Speaker 1: The Saints don't challenge you at all down the.

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Speaker 2: Field, don't maybe the Rams at home?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about an offense that gets

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Speaker 1: the ball out of the quarterbacks hand. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: see you over like the last month, especially with a

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Speaker 1: lot of what's what's Carr's depth of target?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the flats, is what it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then Taysom Hill comes in for some snaps too,

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a band Kamara and the Fats. Then moving

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Speaker 1: on to Saturday fantasy game.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's a wealthy one for defenses.

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Speaker 1: Saturday, the Steelers kick things off at four point thirty

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Speaker 1: against Cincinnati at Akrosher Stadium.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the defenses. It's a real

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Speaker 2: hard one to because, like the Bengals, D has been

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Speaker 2: bad this year, it's been awful. But you like to

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Speaker 2: start defenses against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the first time around, the Steelers had four

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Speaker 1: hundred and some yard. They only had sixteen points, but

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Speaker 1: they had four over four hundred yards against them.

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Speaker 2: Steelers d's so banged up, but you're playing against Shake

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Speaker 2: Browning and you.

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Speaker 1: Still have TJ. Watt and you still have Chia Smith.

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Speaker 1: You're still gonna potentially get some sacks. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know which one I like better of the two.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just for pure fantasy. I think in terms

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Speaker 2: of big plays, I like the Steelers. In terms of

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Speaker 2: down in down efficiency, like sincey I think you did

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Speaker 2: worse than either one of them. Yeah, you have to

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Speaker 2: know what the over unders in the game. I haven't

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Speaker 1: I don't ever any of that stuff. Yeah, the night game.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm not sorting either quarterback though. No, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Brownings put up points.

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Speaker 1: But it's I don't try to leap the faith I

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Speaker 1: don't trust. The first time he played against the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo at the Chargers. Wow, fire up that Buffalo defense.

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Speaker 2: Guys, don't use the Chargers D. Yeah. The only reason

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Speaker 2: I didn't get minus fifteen points from the Chargers D

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Speaker 2: I am not playing any longer. Next week easton Stick

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Speaker 2: Bills everything Bills D might be number one on the list. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Moving on, to Sunday's matchups Indianapolis at Atlanta. Looks like

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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke is going to get to start for the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: As he should, maybe both, especially if Pittman doesn't play.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons D hasn't been a problem. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 2: quietly quite good. I'm pretty oppressed with the Colts D.

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Speaker 2: I mean this time last week I definitely sold them

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Speaker 2: ball away and the scoring and big plays. They're better

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Speaker 2: for fantasy than they are real life. Yeah, I kind

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Speaker 1: D heavy Maybe b Jehn Robinson I actually get the

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me. I mean, between him and London,

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Speaker 2: they touched the ball like fourteen times.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, crazy, right, Seattle is at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, Seattle's at Tennessee. We don't know what

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Speaker 2: Would you start either one of those weird Colts backs

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Speaker 2: if Moss doesn't go, I don't know who gets the

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Speaker 2: carries or how they I would assume Trey Sermon gets

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Speaker 1: They just added goods into their active roster though today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would think Sermon gets the majority

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Speaker 2: Seen those names on waiver wires, pickups and stuff. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who to play though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again, Seattle at Tennessee for the third time. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on in Tennessee's quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what's going Seattle's.

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Speaker 1: Well, they said Gino today, Okay, okay, Gino probably gets

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Speaker 2: I guess Gino's an okay start, He's got weapons, but

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Speaker 2: Tennessee's on easy place to play.

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Speaker 1: I don't know which. What would they go with Tannehill?

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Speaker 2: season's over. But I think it's Tannehill. I'm not psyched

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's the case, you're starting Seattle's defense.

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Speaker 2: That was my next question. I don't love it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be a high scoring Titans output though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. Yet Detroit at Minnesota, Detroit can clinch

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Speaker 1: its first division title since nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 2: Wonder how much road golf applies in a dome. In

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Speaker 2: a dome, but it's gonna be loud in a nasty

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Speaker 2: place to play, but it's not gonna be weather. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm no on both defenses. Mike's d's been great,

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Speaker 2: but I I think Detroit's offense is a real handful

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Speaker 2: starting golf. Yeah, I'm starting to them over, like Gino

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Speaker 2: or some of the names we've met.

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Speaker 1: Anybody that we mentioned not named Josh Allen thu Far Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think he's so he'll be in the top twelve. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Washington at New York Giants or Jets Jets.

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Speaker 2: Yuck, Right, you'd love to use stuff against both those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Can you play either defense against the other teams like Jets?

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Speaker 1: They're both bad? I would play the Jets, d would you?

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Speaker 1: But you typically you would play you would play anybody

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Speaker 2: And and vice versa. You're not playing the quarterback against

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Speaker 2: Washington that you'd love to because it's Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Wilson, right, I don't know hurt, Yeah, he's hurt.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be for set. Yeah, how so

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Speaker 2: do you start nobody from that game? I mean breescet

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Speaker 2: Hall had like two points, Wilson did nothing. McLaurin blew

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Speaker 1: But is that gonna happen against the Jets?

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Speaker 2: Less likely? And that was garbage time. I'm sorry the

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Speaker 2: Jets d and then to be determined.

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Speaker 1: I just avoid that game altogether.

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Speaker 2: But if it's three nothing, oh yuck yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yuk, yuck yack. Green Bay? Is that Carolina or yucky? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So far green Bay at Carolina?

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Speaker 2: I mean Carolina has played a sloppy and super low

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Speaker 2: scoring game. Green Bay's defense looks horrendous. Can you start

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Speaker 2: either D? No, you always start DS against.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense. You almost have to start against Carolina,

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Speaker 2: Probably as good as Atlanta's. They kept them under ten points. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of the names we've mentioned.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with like Aaron Jones?

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Speaker 2: Play them? But like Cuba?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, he's getting he's getting carries, get touches.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense is not No, it's bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, flight out bad. I mean Baker tore them up.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Bryce Young will, but I don't like

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Speaker 2: how a lot of these matchups are falling.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is at Houston. Now we assume C. J. Stroud

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Speaker 1: will be back this week.

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Speaker 2: You still play the Browns d see on the road.

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing him on the road. I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't pay for him a dfast. I wouldn't drop

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Speaker 2: him for pretty much anyone we've mentioned now that would

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Speaker 2: be out there. How about Houston's D eight six sacks

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Speaker 1: I'd start Houston's defense against Gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be a tough place to play. Flaco's numbers were better

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Speaker 2: than Flacco the player, especially for three quarters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, i'd start. I think i'd start Houston's defense

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Speaker 1: over Cleveland's. I can see that in that building. Just

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Speaker 1: with with with Cleveland's home road splits. I could see

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Speaker 1: this game being played the twenties.

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Speaker 2: I think Child's an okay start. It's like in the

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love level, it means coming off an injury. I'm

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Speaker 2: not excited to start Flacco.

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Speaker 1: No, No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is at Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: So Lawrence has a new injury right, he's concussed. He

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Speaker 2: has a concussion on top of the ankle, which is,

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Speaker 2: who are they playing.

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Speaker 1: Again, Tampa?

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Speaker 2: They need to win. I'm starting Baker. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: concern for DFS. I'm saying he's a top five guy

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Speaker 2: or anything. But you can throw on Jacksonville, you can

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Speaker 2: throw it in Tampa. I don't love either D.

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Speaker 1: What is it CJ. Bethard? If yes, if Lawrence can't go.

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't love either D. But if Bethard goes

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Speaker 1: Dallas is at Miami.

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Speaker 1: I think if I had to use a defense in

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Speaker 1: Can't? Last week was awful, but it was awful but

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. New England's d I think is almost an every

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Speaker 1: Ye night game, that's that's that's the night. That's the

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Speaker 2: a piece of pie or something, some egg nog. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's a race. Race to ten there, Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: No, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope nope.

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Speaker 2: So Christmas Day we have three games, huh.

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Speaker 1: And then three games on Christmas Day, leading with Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas at Kansas City. Kansas City is a yes.

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Speaker 2: Raiders fans. I've been saying this since Thursday. I can't

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Speaker 2: wait to bet against you guys. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I did see that one. It's Kansas City by ten,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City doesn't blow anybody.

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Speaker 1: Ruin is probably gonna go up from ten.

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Speaker 2: Probably goes up, and everyone's gonna be watching on Canada

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Speaker 2: and Christmas. And I got some new Christmas money from Daddy.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it on the Raiders or whatever and lose.

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Speaker 2: You play my homes obviously high on the list. K

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Speaker 2: c D would be high on the list. Yeah, none,

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Speaker 2: non Raiders quarterback or D. I don't fear the Chiefs offense.

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Speaker 2: I just don't have any respect for the Raiders D.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you're gonna start with she Rice, You're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Raiders are scrappy, though they are. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Jacobs will play, that would help. It's a mere

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Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't matter for good or not. You

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Speaker 2: it's not terrible.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: You gotta play the Eagles D. Although it's bad, it's bad.

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Speaker 2: It's flat out bad. But you play them against it Giants,

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Speaker 2: right sacks?

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Speaker 1: Does the Vito play this? But then you get hurt?

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Speaker 1: Last week Taylor came in and I can't remember if

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Speaker 2: I don't think it matters. I'm not playing either one

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Speaker 2: of the Giants quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is it's sacks. I mean, whether it's

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Speaker 2: they take sacks. They take so many sacks, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know that their receivers will. I mean, guy like

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Speaker 2: one Del Robinson's a sneaky pickup, or you know somebody

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Speaker 1: I think I would. I think I would start the

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Speaker 2: You start hurts. Yeah, not the Giants d or the Vito.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, and not what do you do

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Speaker 2: How healthy is he? I thought there was something wrong

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Speaker 2: play all your Eagles Yeah, yeah, Swift and all those dudes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The final game of the weekend one, this is the

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Speaker 2: Niners? Yes, both quarterbacks yes. I don't think they're benchable

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Speaker 2: at this point, especially themar I mean, he's gonna run.

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Speaker 1: Ravens d I don't know if I could start their building.

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Speaker 1: I bet they score more than twenty. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and fifty or more you get the minus fifteen, which

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Speaker 1: I found out. But if you think your defense might

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Speaker 1: and I think the Ravens might give up thirty. So

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Speaker 1: don't care. If the misdirection is going to left, you

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Speaker 1: go get the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Maybe just hit the quarterback. Yeah, just just do that.

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Speaker 2: All comes out quick though, too, I mean I understand. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like that Bengals conversation party doesn't hold it,

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Speaker 2: and he's a little more athletic than you think, and

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Speaker 2: they have so many weapons.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: If I go get the quarterback, he throws it over

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Speaker 2: my head to McCaffrey. No, Yeah, like all the run

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Speaker 2: after catch stuff is so scary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so much misdirection.

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Speaker 2: It is. I saw just the other day that it's

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Speaker 2: I can't start the Ravens Z again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to do. So. I mean there's some

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Speaker 1: can't use them. Yeah, you just can't. Like the Dallas game,

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Speaker 2: If that would have been last on our list, maybe, like, well,

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Speaker 2: it's better than most of the garbage we've talked about, right,

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Speaker 2: you just can't use most of them. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it's unfortunate. There's four or five like every week starting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to be pretty this week. If

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Speaker 1: Chicago's out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, play him, put it form, yeah, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 2: just don't play, don't you know, look at the rest

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Speaker 2: of the schedule, but don't necessarily dump a great d

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Speaker 2: The Bengals are, like the Ravens, have a tough schedule

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Speaker 2: going forward. Yeah, they might not be as fantasy helpful

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm, it's not pretty Like Houston against Cleveland

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Speaker 2: I would think that game's in the teams, I would think.

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Speaker 2: I would think, Yeah, I don't think Cleveland blows anyone's

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the over unders are,

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Speaker 1: just again, I'm just guessing Chicago Arizona is going to

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Speaker 2: Who is Atlanta playing again?

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Speaker 1: That's probably in the thirties. Denver, New England's New England

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have either one of those d's, you're

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a break that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for the fantasy football focus. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie.

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, and Matt should not do that right.

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Speaker 2: Before, right before we go live. Yeah, pull back the

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Speaker 2: curtain anyway.

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Speaker 1: It is time to take a look at the fantasy,

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Speaker 1: not the fantasy.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be painful too, so good thing. We

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Speaker 1: These are Eric ed Holmes rankings NFL dot Com UH

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Speaker 1: at thirty two. Despite winning, they still deserve it, though

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean they owned the first pick overall by a pretty

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Speaker 1: They don't own it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they earned it, They've earned it, they

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Speaker 2: really just bottomed out collapsed you say that, Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: And thirty one is Washington.

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Speaker 2: They actually do have a case. They're pretty horrible too,

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Speaker 2: I mean their defense is non existence.

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Speaker 1: Samo was seven of sixteen for fifty two yards. So

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Speaker 1: would you play him the rest of the way? No,

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Speaker 1: you put percent in. I think you've seen enough yeah

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Speaker 1: to know that he is not the And the crazy

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Speaker 1: thing is, six weeks ago people are talking, is he

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Speaker 2: Oh? I know, yeah, yeah, I mean because he runs

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Speaker 2: So he has numbers and hey, we like fantasy is

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Speaker 2: much or more than the next guy, But fantasy numbers

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Speaker 2: Falcons and the Commanders went into this season with Ritter

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Speaker 2: you think was going to happen? You know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 2: these aren't first round picks that you're like, sake or

438
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 2: swim young man. These are a third round dude that

439
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 2: look bad as a rookie and a fifth round dude

440
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: that played one game. Yeah, and that's gonna be our quarterback.

441
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,959
Speaker 2: I mean that's not a plan. At thirty are the Patriots?

442
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: They're still pretty bad. I mean they just don't score points,

443
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: removed the football.

444
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they held it together for about a half against

445
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: they did.

446
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 2: They were respectable for a while.

447
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: At twenty nine are the Cardinals similar?

448
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 2: They kind of were respectable for a while against a

449
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: really good night They put up a fight. They did,

450
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: they did, and the offense looks promising.

451
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Speaker 1: At twenty eight down a spot are the Giants?

452
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Speaker 2: I have no qualms with that. Yeah, I mean they

453
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Speaker 2: don't protect.

454
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Speaker 1: At twenty seven down a spot, the Chargers. Can you

455
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Speaker 1: put the Chargers ahead of the Giants at this point

456
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Speaker 1: based on what they are right now?

457
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Speaker 2: I was about to say, should the Chargers be thirty two?

458
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm that offended by what I saw? Like that

459
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 2: was the worst performance I've seen from any football team

460
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: in years? Yeah, that was bad Carolina one. If they

461
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 2: played who's favored in Chargers Panthers right now?

462
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think the Panthers are based on the they're

463
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Speaker 1: more motivated what they did last week.

464
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: I mean Keenan Allen's not playing, I mean, let alone Herbert.

465
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Speaker 2: They should be thirty two.

466
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Speaker 1: I think at twenty six down a spot the Jets.

467
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a miserable performance, but two

468
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: weeks ago was good.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and this is today's NFL that just is

470
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Speaker 1: at twenty five down a spot. The Tennessee Titans.

471
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Speaker 2: I think they're better than any team you mentioned. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 2: but I wouldn't call them good.

473
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Speaker 1: They just lost the game against the total Wire. Yeah.

474
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean it was a backup quarterback they played against.

475
00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: But they're still playing hard.

476
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Speaker 1: At twenty four down a spot, Chicago, they should be higher.

477
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: They should be much higher. I think they're playing well. Yeah,

478
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: they're beating good teams. They're hard to play. Well, they're

479
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: not quite beating good tea. They're not quite beating good team.

480
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but they every bit. They gave Cleveland every

481
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: bit of everything they could handle at home. Now, whether

482
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: it was a factor in that game, yeah, but I

483
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Speaker 1: might add that you and I both picked the Bears

484
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Speaker 1: against the spread in that game.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they'ree and a half. Oh they did.

486
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: Their Bears or their defense have been one of the

487
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: better in the league, and fields isn't bad, and they'd

488
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: be higher at twenty three up five spots the Raiders.

489
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 2: I know the score was reflective, but I don't know that.

490
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: The Bears are better than the Raiders.

491
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: The Bears better than Raiders, Titans, or Traders a conversation

492
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: for me, Yeah, probably put the Raiders ahead of them.

493
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: But the Bears are better than the Raiders.

494
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: At twenty two down just one spot the Atlanta Falcons, they.

495
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: Should be plummeting. I mean again, they don't have a quarterback,

496
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: they don't use the resources they have on offense. So

497
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: question for you. Someone threw this out onto many podcasts

498
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: I listen. If you were to guess DVOA, EPA, whatever,

499
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: what does it land or rank offensive rushing the football?

500
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: Where would you think they're at? And I think they

501
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: were like two last year?

502
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: They were like two last year. I'm going to say

503
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: based on the lack of use of Jean Robinson, I

504
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: would say they're like eighteenth.

505
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 2: That was about my guess too, when they said they

506
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: presented the same way in the air, I think they're

507
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 2: twenty eighth. Like that to me is almost as bad.

508
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: If I'm the owner looking at the head coach like

509
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: you did something, but.

510
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: The same offensive lineback.

511
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: And we gotta give you a running back who's better.

512
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: And now you went from like one of the best

513
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: to one of the worst. In your bread and butter. Yeah,

514
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: the defense is better, quietly, but that offense is scary yucky. Yeah,

515
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: yuck yuck.

516
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: At twenty one up a spot, the New Orleans Saints.

517
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: Might have them higher. Really, they just beat the Giants

518
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: right now, They're a hard team for me. I can't

519
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: figure if the defense is good or not. I don't

520
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: think the quarterback's good. I kind of feel like the

521
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: coaching staff is stale. I guess it's fine. I mean,

522
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: they're probably better than the Bears, are better than them.

523
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: I might pick the Bears. Yeah, on the straight up

524
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: head to head match up right now at twenty down

525
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: six spots are the Steelers.

526
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: I was about to say, Steelers are Saints. Who's favored

527
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: in that game today? After what we saw the last

528
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: three weeks.

529
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you, as we said here today

530
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, Yeah, I don't even know what the

531
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: Steelers defense is going to look like on Saturday. That's

532
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: the problem.

533
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: I mean, there's also two options, so even a quarterback

534
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: right and one of them hasn't played all year, And

535
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: you're right, Yeah, I'm fine with them being there. I

536
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: wouldn't have them higher.

537
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: No, No, I hear right, I hear you. At nineteen

538
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: down three spots, are the.

539
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: Packers falling fast as well? I mean their last couple

540
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: of games have been sort of steeler like they got

541
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 2: to be bad by Tampa at home. Yeah, that's rough.

542
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield a perfect passer.

543
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: Rating right against a talent of defense. I'd be really

544
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: frustrated right now because they look like a sure surefire

545
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: wild card team just a couple of weeks ago.

546
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: At eighteen down a spot, the Minnesota Vikings, I would

547
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: hold last.

548
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: Week against them. I think they're mediocre.

549
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: I kind of would because I thought the quarterback was awful.

550
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: It's awful interception he threw. I can't, but it's been

551
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: awful for weeks. The interception that Sean Mannon threw the man.

552
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: No, but he's another lifetime back.

553
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: Whom I think Nick Bullin. The interception that he threw

554
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: one of the worst plays to your defensive tackle might

555
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: be one of the worst. It's the worst play that

556
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: I've seen a quarterback make maybe ever.

557
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't get much worse, Like, what crosses

558
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: your mind to think that that's a good idea.

559
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: You're falling to the ground, you're being tackled to the ground,

560
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: and you just decide, I'm gonna flick the ball for

561
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: it because even if it falls incomplete at that point,

562
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get called for intentional grounding.

563
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be different if it was fourth down, you're

564
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: no time on the clock and you know you're totally desperate,

565
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: you're in field goal, threw a field goal away.

566
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you lose the game in overtime.

567
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: But that's one play. I mean, we're talking about power ranks.

568
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: That's one play. Their quarterback play hasn't been.

569
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Good for since I understand.

570
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know where i'd rank them, but

571
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: to be right in this neighbor, but as.

572
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: The backup quarterback, what have we talked about all day long?

573
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: You can't lose the game for your team.

574
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of them that are losing the game. Yeah.

575
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, Yeah, seventeen up, two spots Seattle.

576
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: I'd probably be kind. They'd definitely be higher than any

577
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: team we've talked about, and there's some recency bias there

578
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: but just remember their losing streak was against the Niners,

579
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: the Rams, the cow like the best teams in the league,

580
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: and then they edged out the Eagles.

581
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that they got the Eagles best shot

582
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: last night with the quarterback being sick all week, you know,

583
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: all he looked good.

584
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: No, he was in the back seven of the Eagles.

585
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: D is bad.

586
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: It's a mess.

587
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: It's a mess. Yeahs and the Eagles aren't the typical Eagles team.

588
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: I'll give you that, but Seattle's out of the woods

589
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: in terms of awful games.

590
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: At sixteen up four spots, the Rams.

591
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: Maybe ahead of Seattle. They'll be ahead of all those teams.

592
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: I hope they get in the playoffs. I'd rather watch

593
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: them than like the Vikes.

594
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, at fifteen up three spots. I can't go

595
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: this high with this team, Tampa Bay.

596
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: I can't either, just because you're winning your division. You're

597
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: not as good as the Rams. No, you're not as

598
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: good as Seattle, as good as the Vikes. Vikes are close.

599
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd have them behind the two teams right

600
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: behind them.

601
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: The three teams right behind them seem to really be

602
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: fighting for two wildcard spots.

603
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the.

604
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: Saints still have a chance, or whoever comes in second

605
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: in that division has a chance. But I think the

606
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: three teams fighting for wildcard spots are all better than

607
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: the NFC South teams.

608
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, fourteen down three spots Denver, it'd be.

609
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: A little lower. I think the Rams are better than

610
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: they are. I have a lot of respect for the Rams. Yeah,

611
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: but they're okay, They're okay. Yeah, they're basically right what

612
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: you can say from about every team from like twenty

613
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: three to.

614
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: Six.

615
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, pretty, they're okay, They're okay. Yeah.

616
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: And it's just this is the state of the NFL

617
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: right now. It is.

618
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of injuries, war of attrition,

619
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: quarterback problems. The league wants parody and it's getting it.

620
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't know this is good for the league.

621
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: I know I do too. Like I grew up watching

622
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: you know, like everybody, the Steelers, the Dolphins, the Raiders

623
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: in the seventies. I mean I think that's great, or

624
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Washington the Giants, the Niners in the eighties, or you know,

625
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys versus Niners with what team's dionne on this year

626
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: and Charles Haley and like they're the best teams in

627
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: the conference.

628
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, typically you go into the playoffs thinking, Okay,

629
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: there's five or six teams here that can win the championship.

630
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't know we're going to.

631
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Say that this year, right, and unfortunately legitimately.

632
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Legitimately win the championship, Like the Chargers beat the Steelers

633
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: in ninety four to make it to the championship and

634
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: then nobody gave them a chance in that game and

635
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: the wall and they crushed.

636
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the crushed. Unfortunately. You hope, like Lamar or Pert,

637
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: you know, like what happened to the Niners in the

638
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: playoffs last year doesn't derail one of the teams that could,

639
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, actually go to the super Bowl and then

640
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: someone that shouldn't go goes or you know something like that.

641
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: At thirteen up two spots of the Colts.

642
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: They'd be higher than anyone mentioned. I think the defense

643
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: is pretty legit. I know Steelers played unbelievably bad, but

644
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: the Colto line isn't a joke. Pittman needs to be

645
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: part of the equation for them to be in the mixes.

646
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have them ahead of well, I mean

647
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: the other team ahead of them just beat them two

648
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Twelve. The Bengals. I don't know what to

649
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: think of the ben don't either.

650
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: I would hate they'd be the hardest team for me

651
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: to rank because I was about to say I out

652
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: have the Colt ahead of them too, but.

653
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: They just beat them. But we just saw that badly.

654
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't understand the Bengals D like I feel like

655
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: I've we talked about it early in the show and

656
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: we had a great conversation about their quarterback, how they've

657
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: changed the offense, blah blah blah. The D's at the

658
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: bottom of the league and like everything category, yeah, everything

659
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: across the board. It's not you don't think it's like Washington's,

660
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: but it's kind of where they're at. I don't understand it.

661
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you see people talking about, you know,

662
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: possible openings or current openings, Well, Loui an Romo is

663
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, he's gonna get interviewed like his defense has

664
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: been awful this.

665
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Year after last year. I buy it, But they're all

666
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: the same guys basically. Now there's the bottom of league

667
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: in every category.

668
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they play a ball control offense like.

669
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't get the defense.

670
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: And eleven up a spot, it's Houston. That was a

671
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Speaker 1: gutty win last week.

672
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: For Yeah, I think they're really building something there. I

673
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: mean to win with a backup quarterback and survive that stretch.

674
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Missing Nico Collins. Yeah, yeah, a lot of the guys,

675
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: Will Anderson.

676
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Speaker 2: Will interested in playing. They had six sacts. Yeah, that's

677
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: cool with them there yet that's deserved.

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00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: At ten down a spot is Jacksonville.

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00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: Are they better than Houston?

680
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: Well they just played them last week and won that game.

681
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Two weeks yeah, right right, Yeah, that's fine. Again, they're fine,

682
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: but Jacksonville can't win the super Bowl. No. No.

683
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: At nine down a spot is Cleveland. Cleveland can't win

684
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. I would probably have them over

686
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: the AFC South though. We just talked about three of

687
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: the AFC South teams. Yeah, they'd be ahead of those guys,

688
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: but probably no one else is above them. Browns are

689
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: better than the Bengals.

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00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. At eight up two spots, Buffalo, you're going

691
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: to disagree with that.

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00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: They're three For me. All I know is my top three.

693
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Speaker 2: I was asked that on a mail bag question the

694
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: other day, and I have them three. How you're playing today,

695
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: they're hard to play.

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00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Again, there is the number nine spot in the AFC playoff.

697
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: Brutal, but they're beating really good teams and.

698
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: They would lose a tiebreaker. If they went out and

699
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Denver wins out, they lose a tiebreaker to the Broncos.

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00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: But if they played the Broncos seven times, if.

701
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Speaker 1: They went out and Cincinnati wins out, Cincinnati wins a tiebreaker.

702
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: I get all that. But they're good.

703
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I get it.

704
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: But you are what you are, and what they are

705
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: right now is good.

706
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: But you're eight and six ahead of Dallas. I mean,

707
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: I get it. They could be. They could be the

708
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: two thousand and five Steelers and sneak into the playoffs

709
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: they get in. I'm just saying they're better than the

710
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Speaker 1: Eagles right now. I know that they're better than Dallas

711
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: right now. They're better in Miami right now when they

712
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: play those teams on their home field.

713
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem. But all these teams awards.

714
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: Oh I know that. That's what I said it one

715
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: hundred times. Yeah, at seven are the Lions.

716
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles should have been listed by now.

717
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't know where they're at, but.

718
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: They got to be if they're not. I'll be shot.

719
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: I say the Lions will be ahead of the Eagles.

720
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean they've lost three in a row.

721
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and they have problems.

722
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: So seven are the Lions.

723
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

724
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Six is Kansas City.

725
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Kansas City is better than the Eagles too.

726
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. At five down, one spot of the Eagles.

727
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, had a really good Eagles conversation today. They have

728
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: played the hardest schedule in the league to date, and

729
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: they have the easiest schedule going forward. But they're not

730
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: playing well. Yeah, I mean they have problems. The quarterback

731
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: doesn't look great there.

732
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: It slays out like, Yeah, the back seven is bad.

733
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: It's awful, and they're not fixing it at this time

734
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: of the year. That they have sixty or seventy sacks

735
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: last year seventy two I thought or something like that.

736
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: Okay it was it wasn't sixty, it was well more

737
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: like now they're they don't even get in sacks. Yeah,

738
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: because it's always right, Yeah, the people's move the ball

739
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: in early downs.

740
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Speaker 1: At four up, a spot is Miami, Okay, I mean

741
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I think that's too high for Miami. I would have Miami, But.

742
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: How about Miami versus case, I would have k C

743
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: ahead of miam Bills versus Miami.

744
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: I would have the Bills over Miami.

745
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, Miami over Cleveland. Yeah, Miami Detroit.

746
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: That's a question. That's that's that's coin flip. Yeah with Tyreek, Yeah,

747
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's not out for the Miami has Miami.

748
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: He still has yet to beat anybody, anybody.

749
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Them verse Dallas this week would be interesting, very interesting.

750
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: It's in Miami and Dallas has struggled on the road.

751
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: So if Miami wins this game and and you know,

752
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: eakes it out, I'm not gonna be like, oh, Miami's

753
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: got their signature win, It's gonna be getting No. Dallas

754
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: is still struggling to win road games. Yeah.

755
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: See, I was going to say at least one of

756
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: them could say they beat a good team.

757
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: Well, Dallas has that.

758
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: They they just beat the Eagles. Yeah, but the Eagles

759
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: aren't as good as they looked either.

760
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: That's They're a good problem with today's NFL course, of course,

761
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a mess. At three is Dallas.

762
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: I'll say it one more time. I think the Bills

763
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: are better than Dallas. And we did just see.

764
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: That they were on Sunday.

765
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: They sure were on Sunday. I think the Bills are

766
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: better than all those teams we just mentioned. I would

767
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: put Kansas City over Dallas. I think Kansas City is

768
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: starting to turn the corner positively.

769
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: Two is Baltimore. Yeah, and then one of San Francisco

770
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: I think is pretty easy. And I'll be quite honest

771
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: with you. I think the forty nine Ers beat the

772
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Ravens by double digits this weekend.

773
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. If they play one hundred times, I think they

774
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: win seventy eight of them.

775
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

776
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: I think they're a powerhouse. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, they're an

777
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: easy one.

778
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: This forty nine Ers team is a team that would

779
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: be good in any era. Oh yeah, I can't say that.

780
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: I can't say that about any other team in the

781
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: league right now. No, I agree that they've all got

782
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: something seriously that.

783
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: Seriously wrong with them. Yeah, like can't run the ball,

784
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: or don't have a back seven, or the quarter's not

785
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: playing well or yeah, and there's all problems. Who's what

786
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: worries you most about? The Ravens starting to be the tackles.

787
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: For me, the tackles are an issue.

788
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: And playmakers are dropping. Yeah, you lost Andrews and likely's fine. Now, Mitchell,

789
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: you wouldn't think that's much, but he was growing and

790
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: growing and growing. Zay Flowers has kind of disappeared of late,

791
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: you know, like and I think the tackles they're rotating,

792
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: uh Moses in and out, Stanley in and out, Fleas

793
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 2: coming in there, you know what I mean, Like they're

794
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: asking a lot of them are to get out of

795
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: the out of the way. Guys like Bosa could have

796
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: a lot of sacks of that game. Chase Young.

797
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they I mean, if they can catch Lamar,

798
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: that's the you know, that's the there's a lot of pressures, say,

799
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: but he's seventeen eighteen and one now, yeah, against the NFC.

800
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: And I brought them up because I think they're clearly

801
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: the second best team, you know. Yeah, and they have wars,

802
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: they have less than the Steelers of Browns Bank.

803
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: But when we come back next week, it won't surprise me.

804
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: If Ed Holme bumps up whoever wins the Dallas my

805
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Ami game will be number two.

806
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: Or if he's smart, bump the bills up.

807
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: And on that note, on that note, that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, go do that. Matt. You know, we just

827
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: went over those power rankings for the NFL and it's tough, man,

828
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: I mean, with with Mason Rudolph starting this week, we're

829
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: going to be up to I think we're at fifty

830
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: eight different quarterbacks. It really had started already this year though,

831
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: he'll be forty nine.

832
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: That's just started. It was sixty nine last year.

833
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not probably too. Probably not going to get

834
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: to that number, probably not, but yeah, we're pretty darn close.

835
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: And that was that was a league record outside of

836
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: the year and what was eighty seven they when they

837
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: had the strike they had all that yeah, yea.

838
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, ye yeah, they're just putting guys off street or whatever. Yeah,

839
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: that year doesn't count for any stats. Really, it's far

840
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: too much. I mean, it's one of the biggest problems

841
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: the league has, and I don't know how you fix it.

842
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it just diminishes the products so much.

843
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think it's a problem.

844
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like Cleveland's quarterback situation isn't horrible at

845
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: the moment, but he's their fourth guy. I mean, if

846
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: you go to four, they're not the I mean, so

847
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: if you look camp with those guys, if you look

848
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: at the teams that have.

849
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Used four, there's multiple this year. Minnesota, sure, Arizona.

850
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Okay, including both of the dosah the Jets, the three

851
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: or four.

852
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: The Jets are at.

853
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: Boyle Wilson, Rogers, they started anybody else, they might be

854
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: a three and less Wilson doesn't start this week. Who's

855
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: up next? Because boils a team anymore.

856
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: They could be coming up with, they could be on

857
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: their fourth. Steelers are three, Steelers are three. I mean,

858
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's a you know, the teams that

859
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: are of the teams that have started those multiple quarterbacks.

860
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: The crazy thing about it is Dobbs began the season

861
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: in Cleveland.

862
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: Right right right, So every team he's been to is

863
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: used four quarterbacks. He's only been there guy two of

864
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 2: the three times. I wonder how many have only used one.

865
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: I saw, I actually saw that stat today. I think

866
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: there's like six who have used one quarterback game.

867
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: And in the league.

868
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean Allen to uh Lamar Lamar, Dak Lawrence, Lawrence

869
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: and Dak Party Party has started every game. Yeah, Russell Wilson, Yeah,

870
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: maybe it's eight golf golf. I think that's it. Baker,

871
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: he started every game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Young, They're not all good, Yeah, okay, I mean

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Speaker 2: obviously most of those teams are good.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes, Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: I think that costs it ten.

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Speaker 1: That gets ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean that's that's terrible for the league.

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Speaker 2: Most of those teams have done well.

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Speaker 1: It's a big part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean that's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, when you when you go to that

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback and every week when we've seen, well, this

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Speaker 1: quarterback did this and that quarterback this, why isn't Canny

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Speaker 1: Pickett doing that? Here's the thing. You do what you

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Speaker 1: need to do to win the game. And you know,

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Speaker 1: when Sam Howe was putting up all those passing numbers

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Speaker 1: earlier in the season, I was like, look, they're throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball every down, every down. If you put pick

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Speaker 1: It in that offense in that situation, the numbers, he's

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Speaker 1: going to throw three hundred yards every week.

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Speaker 2: And his picks would be up and his sacks would

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Speaker 2: be up, and I don't know what the commander's wins

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Speaker 2: would be up.

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Speaker 1: Because I mean, you're trying to win the games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't need your quarterback to go play hero ball.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm not picking on the enemy at all, but

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Speaker 2: you know this was his He left the Chiefs on

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Speaker 2: purpose to go take over an offense outside of Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: and he kind of failed, you know what I mean, Like, I, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have a lot of passing stats, that's great. How

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Speaker 2: is okay? You didn't develop him into a true starter.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just picking on him. There's a million

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinators you can say the same thing about. But

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Speaker 2: did you help your team win by your play calling

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Speaker 2: and development? I wouldn't say yes, yeah, you know right,

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Speaker 2: but oh buddy had yards yards. Yeah, you can do

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Speaker 2: that if you.

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Speaker 1: Play that way, if you just say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's all We're gonna throw the ball all around like

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Speaker 1: create because he could do that with Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it fails you out.

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Speaker 1: But me, when you don't have Pat Mahomes and you

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Speaker 1: have Sam Howe, you can't play the same way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or even look at the Eagles, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean the Eagles would throw in the first half of

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Speaker 2: games the last couple of years and then run you

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Speaker 2: to death in the second half and rush the passer.

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Speaker 2: Are like quite crazy. Well, they haven't been able to

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Speaker 2: play that formula at all, you know, Like we were

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Speaker 2: talking about their pass rush last segment they had seventy

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Speaker 2: sacks or whatever. Great Cosell, who kind of does what

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Speaker 2: we do for the Eagles. I mean he's that's that's

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Speaker 2: his team. Yeah. I was talking about this the other

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Speaker 2: day on the air. He's like, they had so many

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Speaker 2: third down sacks last year, like more than most teams

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Speaker 2: had sacks. This year they're like last or second to

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Speaker 2: last in third down sacks. It's not because Reddick can't

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Speaker 2: rush a passer anymore. It's not third and eight.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty three. It's huge difference.

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Speaker 2: And last year they played the East Scheduling League. Up

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Speaker 2: till now they've played the hardest and I think they're

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Speaker 2: a lesser team now than they were then. It hurts

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Speaker 2: isn't quite as good. The back sevens on as good.

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Speaker 2: That's the league.

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Speaker 1: That is the league. In the nutshell, this hurts played.

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Speaker 2: Every game I think, yeah about a dozen yeah, give

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Speaker 2: or take. But there's something that's four. Four, four, I

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Speaker 2: mean two's too many. Three is awful. Four's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're struggling. That's what's going to happen. That's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for our show, So for my partner

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, for justin here and so keeping us on

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Speaker 1: the air. I'm Dale Lolly, and we appreciate you listening

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Speaker 1: to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio