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If you or 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: someone you know is in need of help, please contact 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: the Suicide in Crisis Lifeline by dialing nine eight eight. 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised. 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: Why ye are you thirty five? 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: Are you dirty? Sick? 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: Are you thirty sack? 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Wow? It's my birthday and you can tell from my 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: voice that I am not as excited to turn thirty 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: eight as my nephews are. I thought my life would 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: look pretty different. My younger self would have guessed that 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: i'd be married by now, not single and newly unemployed, 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: having just burned out of the tech career. I'd spent 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: so much of my life building. I remember birthdays as 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: a kid. When I turned seven, my dad taught me 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: how to ride a bike for the first time. Life was, 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: in some ways so much simpler, but still kind of terrifying. 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Catholic Church, and not just 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: the occasional Sunday Mass. As a kid and throughout my 28 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: early adult years, I actually wanted to become a priest. 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: This might sound intense, but for Catholics, the purpose of 30 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: life isn't to become a good person or even to 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: become a priest, but it's to become a saint. Saints, 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: they said, were united with the people here on earth 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: from beyond the grave in a kind of mystical way. 34 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: At first, this scared me, thinking about the dad having 35 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: an influence on the living. But the saints they wanted 36 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: to help us. I remember praying to Saint Anthony when 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't find my pencil case, and he totally came through. 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: But if you had told me that someone who died 39 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: who I'd never met, would take me from my life 40 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, compel me to spend the next three 41 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: years following her story and make me confront my biggest 42 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: fears in real time, I wouldn't have believed you that 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: would be taking this mystical concept too far. 44 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 5: Hi, my name's Salana, And last summer I went to 45 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: Camp Watiwa and one of the most profound experiences I 46 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 5: had was there on the rock climbing wall. 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: This is Alana Chen. She's sixteen and standing in front 48 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: of the Rocky Mountains where she's attending an outdoor Catholic 49 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: summer camp. 50 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 5: And as I was going, I was climbing really excited. 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: But eventually I got to this place where I was 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: just stuck on the rock, and the people that were 53 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 5: helping me were trying to tell me which way to 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 5: go so that I could keep going, keep climbing up, 55 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: and I just didn't want to listen, so for a 56 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 5: while I blocked them out, but I was still stuck. 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: So I was just stuck there holding cleaning on. 58 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: Alana's from a small town outside of Boulder, Colorado. She 59 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: works at an ice cream shop called Sweet Cow. Her 60 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: favorite flavor is chocolate oatmeal stout. 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 5: And eventually I just got more and more tired and weaker, 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: and they just kept saying, okay, just let go. If 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: you let go of the rock, like the rope will 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: just swing you back to that straight path, and still 65 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: I didn't want to listen to them. 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Alana's really good at ultimate frisbee. Her team makes it 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: to the state finals, but she's a little different from 68 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: the rest of her teammates. That's because since she was thirteen, 69 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: she's wanted to become a nun. 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 5: But eventually, as I just sat there, I just heard 71 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: in my heart this voice. I was just saying, let go, 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: Just let go of anything you're holding on to your 73 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 5: pride or your fear, and the ropes will catch you. 74 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 5: And in reality, it was like God would catch me 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 5: in that moment because I could just let go and 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 5: not be afraid anymore. 77 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: I remember the day I learned about Alana. It was 78 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: December twenty nineteen, and I was scrolling on my phone 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: when I came across the news of a girl from Boulder, Colorado, 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: who wanted to become a nun, was told to keep 81 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: a secret, and who died at the age of twenty four, 82 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: with her entire life ahead. 83 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: Of her breaking from overnight. 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 4: Louisville police are searching for a missing twenty four year 85 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: old woman. 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 6: I never SAIDs Adde Guahardo sat down with her family 87 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 6: and Addie. 88 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: They tell you they believe conversion therapy played a role. 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: Yes, the mother says her daughter first opened up to 90 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: a priest at her church when she was just fourteen 91 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: years old. 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: However, the church denies any conversion therapy was done. I froze, 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: my blood went cold, and it felt like time stopped. 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: You See, I recognized the kind of religious community that 95 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: Alana was a part of, the kind of counsel and 96 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: therapy she allegedly received that promised to convert her sexuality, 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: even the way the church responded. I recognized these things because, 98 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: even though I'm a decade older than her, Alana's story 99 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: sounded strikingly similar to mine. I went on Facebook and 100 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: started searching. I found Alana's mother, who had just posted 101 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: about how Alana had sought a controversial kind of therapy 102 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: against her parents' wishes, overcome with I don't know what 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: I wrote to her, sharing things I never talk about 104 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: with anyone, things I've kept secret. I told her about 105 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: how I'd always wanted to be a priest when I 106 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: grew up, that to me, conversion therapy wasn't a buzzword. 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I'd spent my twenties trying to change my sexual orientation 108 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: and even sought one of the most acclaimed Catholic therapists 109 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: to help me, and I shared how important the church 110 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: still was in my life. I had no expectations that 111 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: she would get back to me. I just wanted her 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: to know that maybe someone out there understood. A few 113 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: months later, Alana's mother, Joyce, wrote back to me and 114 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: we talked on the phone. Her grief was palpable. She 115 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: shared memories of Alana and blamed herself for not knowing 116 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: earlier or doing more. We stayed in touch like this 117 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: over the months, through emails and phone calls. Sometimes she'd 118 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: send a single text in the middle of the night 119 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: saying I miss her so much. While all of this 120 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: might seem like any other tragedy, just another example of 121 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: a young life cut too short, I wonder if there's 122 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: more to this story. Memories that I thought were behind 123 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: me keep flooding back, and my gut tells me there's 124 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: more to her death than what's been in the news. 125 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: I need to know. How does someone who seemed to 126 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: do everything right go from wanting to become a nun 127 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: to telling reporters that if there is a God, he 128 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: doesn't need me talking to him anymore. This is the 129 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: story of a girl caught between earnest faith and the 130 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: American culture wars, teenage rebellion and spiritual manipulation, the promise 131 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: of purity and the price we pay to belong. And 132 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: this is my story of how a girl I never 133 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: met would turn my faith my life upside down. From 134 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Tenderfoot TV, I'm simon Kent phone and this is Dear Alana, 135 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Part one. Mom. It's been a year and a half 136 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: since I first reached out to Alana's mother, Joyce. She 137 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: texted me earlier in the day and we talked about 138 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: how great it would be to finally meet up in person. 139 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: Having just spent time with my family for my birthday, 140 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about Alana and her family a lot. 141 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: Joyce has had a hard time going through alana stuff, 142 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and she mentioned that she wants to write a book 143 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: about her one day making a trip out to Bolder. 144 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Maybe I could help her organize Alana's computer and fix 145 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: her email, that sort of thing. I glanced down at 146 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: my dog, Sophie, who looks up from the couch in 147 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: my one bedroom apartment. My box of work stuff still unpacked, 148 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: painfully obvious. I have nothing tethering me here, so I 149 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: book a flight to Colorado. As I pick up my 150 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: rental car and drive towards Boulder, I'm struck by how 151 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: flat and wide this part of Colorado is compared to 152 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Everything feels spread out, just passed by a 153 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: tattoo and art gallery. In between each city are stretches 154 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: of cornfields and ranchland and dominoes and nail salons. But 155 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: the sky is everywhere. The sky and the mountains are everywhere. 156 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: As I pull up into the parking lot of our 157 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: apartment complex, I can't believe I'm finally going to meet 158 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: this woman who I've been texting and talking with for 159 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: so long. Joyce, a dark haired woman, calls to me 160 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: from the second floor. She comes down to let me in. 161 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 7: Oh, I can't believe. 162 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: I can't believe either. This is so surreal. 163 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: You look great. 164 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: You look great. 165 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 7: I know it's little makeup, can do some. 166 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Joyce is tall and striking in person, with a dark 167 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: olive complexion and a wide smile. She's sixty and has 168 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: this disarming yoga mom energy. She lives alone on the 169 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: outskirts of Boulder, having gotten divorced, about eight months ago, 170 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: while Alana's father, Mike kept the house. The kids have 171 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: all moved away, and Joyce and Mike share custody of 172 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: their two dogs, who are with her this week. Her 173 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: small apartment is full of light and tastefully decorated with 174 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: white furniture. Beautiful, look at how the time's play sauce. 175 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a lot of ha hona in here. 176 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: She eagerly shows me around it really well. 177 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 7: That's her picture from her birthday. 178 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: Along the walls of the entrance is one of the 179 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: last photos of Alana, had tilted and holding two packages 180 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: in her hands. I recognize this photo from the missing 181 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: person's police report. 182 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 7: That was right two months before she passed. 183 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: She was so happy. Yeah, and then but what were 184 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: the gifts that she's holding. 185 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 7: Oh, some of my friends they got her hiking socks 186 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: because she loved to go hiking and climbing. Oh yeah, 187 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 7: And then it's funny these shoes. She was also like outdoorsy. 188 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 7: But then she'd do fashion like she'd pick something like that, 189 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 7: and I'd be like, I'd never wear. 190 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: Something like that. 191 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 7: But we went to the monastery for that retreat that 192 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 7: was October, and there's a thrift shop. So she picked 193 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 7: those out and some cold pants and that's the art. 194 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 7: She did that in high school. 195 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: No way, We're standing in front of an impressive canvas 196 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: of pink and crimson flowers, stained glass. 197 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 7: You know what it looks like, stained glass. Everybody says 198 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 7: that she made it out of pieces of magazine. 199 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 200 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: She's got a great eye. 201 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, she was so artistic finally before, like she finally 202 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 7: said I'm gonna I'm gonna be an artist. I'm like, yeah, 203 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 7: that's what you already are. But I have so I'll 204 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 7: show you, but take it any ice water or silsa water. 205 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Alana was born in October of nineteen ninety five, the 206 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: third of four children. Compared to her routier siblings, Alana 207 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: was the shy, sensitive, empathetic kid. 208 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 8: I feel like she had this quiet, but really funny 209 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 8: sense of humor. 210 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: This is Carissa, Alana's older sister, two years apart. The 211 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: more I learn about Alana, the more this picture of 212 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: a quiet, bright goofball emerges. 213 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 8: Like She'll tell you these stories and you're just like, 214 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 8: what on earth you dislocated your shoulder and then put 215 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 8: it back in place on her own. 216 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: She remembers the first time she tried to throw a 217 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: party while her parents. 218 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 8: Were away, and she was like, why are you cleaning 219 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 8: so much? I was like, oh, I just want to 220 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 8: have a clean house. So mom and dad are gone 221 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 8: for the weekend. 222 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: Alana quickly caught on after seeing the bags of alcohol 223 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: in Carissa's bedroom. 224 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 8: And then she texted me a few hours later and 225 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 8: she was like, I know you're having a party tonight. 226 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: Don't lie to me. 227 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 8: I don't care, but don't let anyone sleep in my room. 228 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 8: And I was like, okay, fair. 229 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: Carissa threw the party, all was well. 230 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 8: A whole year passes by and she decides to tell 231 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 8: my mom because she can't hold it in any longer. 232 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 8: And my mom was like, you're grounded. I was like, 233 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 8: for what, She's like, one year ago you had a 234 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 8: party and so Anna told me about it, and I 235 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 8: was just like, Ahna, are you kidding me? And my 236 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 8: mom was so upset. She was like, you made your 237 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 8: sister keep that from me all this time. I was like, 238 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 8: wh I didn't realize it was bothering her so much, 239 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 8: Like that was annoying to me. 240 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Back at the apartment, Joyce is going through some family photos. 241 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 7: So let's mix. Mother, he's full Chinese. He was born 242 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 7: in the US in New York, and your background is 243 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 7: my mom. Her parents were Puerto Rican and then my 244 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 7: dad was born in Brooklyn, but his parents were Italian. 245 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 7: Oh cool, Yeah, so it's quite a mix. 246 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: She continues the tour. 247 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: Little altar. 248 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: She shows me piles of mementos she's assembled into makeshift altars, 249 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of objects grouped around a photo of Alana. 250 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, and this was in her room. She r really 251 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 7: loved Saint Trez and she got me this in Rwanda. 252 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: Mmm, that's beautiful. 253 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeahving She picks up a bible that belonged to her 254 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: father and points to a bronze medallion with the Serenity 255 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: prayer etched in it. 256 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 7: And you had this, which was crazy cause it's from 257 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 7: ellen On And I was like, God, did he got own? 258 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 7: It was just because my crime, my mom was making 259 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 7: them crazy. 260 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: Joyce is really open about her alcoholism and recovery. In fact, 261 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: it's alcoholics Anonymous that sets into motion her search for 262 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: a spiritual home for her family. 263 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 7: When I got sober, I was twenty eight and I 264 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 7: was in Boulder, and I wouldn't go to church. And 265 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 7: my mom would call me. At twenty eight, we were 266 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 7: a church Sunday and I was like, no, AA is 267 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 7: my church. And I just felt that way. 268 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: As her kids got a little older, she started to 269 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: change her mind. 270 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 7: I remember when Sammy was at the age of communion. 271 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 7: Then I just felt like I want them to have 272 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 7: that because when I was in AA, I used to 273 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 7: say my higher power is Jesus. I just felt like, God, 274 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 7: we all need something, you know, prayer, life, something like that. 275 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 7: But that brought me back to the church, which was 276 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 7: a struggle. 277 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: She ended up church shopping, first joining a gospel choir 278 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: at a Presbyterian church, which exposed her to different denominations, 279 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: and eventually landing at Sad Heart of Mary, a Catholic 280 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: church in Boulder. 281 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 7: So one day after church, because I, you know, I 282 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 7: could tell they weren't into into it, the college students 283 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 7: came up and made announcement at the pulpit about this 284 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 7: camp and they were they seemed funny, they seemed like 285 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 7: college students, really cool. 286 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: Joyce thought this would be a great opportunity to get 287 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: her kids interested in God. 288 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 7: So I asked them and they were like no, no, no, 289 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 7: like no way, We're going that camp, and then all 290 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 7: of a sudden, I don't have the college students heard 291 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 7: us talking, but all of a sudden one of them 292 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 7: came over and she was for the sweetest one and 293 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 7: seeing the nicest and not weird, and she was just like, oh, 294 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 7: come on, guys, you know you could just try. It's 295 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 7: gonna be so much fun. And she actually got on 296 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 7: her knees. It was a little weird, and she was like, 297 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 7: come on, come on, come, and you know they're so 298 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 7: good and sweet. They were like, okay, well try one. 299 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: The kids ended up going to the first day of camp, 300 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: and they came back that night really excited. 301 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 7: Alana and Chrisa were sitting at the table, the kitchen table, 302 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 7: and they were like, mom, it was so good. It 303 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 7: was so good. And their tears were rolling down their 304 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 7: face and I was like, why are you crying, and 305 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 7: they were saying, well, we were hearing stories, you know, 306 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 7: like it was just about someone was rape, some serious stuff. 307 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 7: I thought for their age. And then but they found 308 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 7: God and they loved Jesus so much and they're so 309 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 7: happy and they overcame this and I, you know, I 310 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 7: remember thinking, well, I hear people speak in twelve step 311 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 7: programs and it's very moving. You always get to the 312 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 7: end where it's like wow, great, And so I was 313 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 7: a little concerned and I asked a little bit more questions, 314 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 7: and then I just they were just like, we loved it. 315 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: They finished the rest of the week at camp, and 316 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: that's when Joyce remembers a change in Alana, who's thirteen 317 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: at the time. 318 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 7: The very next Sunday in Mass in the same church, 319 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 7: Alana was on the edge of the pew and she 320 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 7: was sitting up and she had her hands in prayer, 321 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 7: and she was like focused night and day, like doing 322 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 7: everything perfectly that you need to do in the Mass. 323 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 7: And then I remember it asking her because she was 324 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 7: even more devout, and I said, what are you doing? 325 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 7: She goes, well, we learned what to do in between 326 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 7: these things that the regular people do during Mass. 327 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Most run of the mill Catholics are barely following along 328 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: and probably spacing out. But the really devout ones, the 329 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: ones in the know, know, for example, that after the 330 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: priest has handed out communion, that's the time to be 331 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: in quiet reflection and give thanks for having received the 332 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: Body of Christ. 333 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 7: I mean, I just was shocked. I was shocked, but. 334 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this marks the beginning of Alana's 335 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: deepening interest in Catholicism. Yeah, we're in Joyce's walk in 336 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: closet and rummaging through a box of Alana's keepsakes. 337 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 7: She wrote this, she's really, really, really super religious. When 338 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 7: she wrote so this is twenty fifteen, she wrote, raise 339 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 7: a glad cry, you barren and who never bore a child, 340 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 7: break forth in jubilant song, you who have never been 341 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 7: in labor. For more numerous are the children of the 342 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 7: deserted wife than the children of her who has a husband, 343 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 7: says the Lord. Is this from the Bible? Yeah, do 344 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 7: not fear. You shall not be put to shame for 345 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 7: the shame of your youth. You shall forget the reproach 346 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 7: of your widowhood no longer. 347 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Remember, as we poke around the closet, I look up 348 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: and spot two large piles of spiral notebooks. Are those 349 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: all the diaries? 350 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 351 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 7: The world it was she had so many of these, 352 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 7: like notebooks and notebooks and notebooks. 353 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Over the last two years, Joyce has been telling me 354 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: about Alana's journals. She found nearly two dozen of them 355 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: in Alana's bedroom, and she's eager to show them to 356 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: me and hopes that I might have some insight. I 357 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: help Joyce carry them off the shelf. 358 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 7: Ugh, this is twenty fifteen, Simon, what age would. 359 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: You have since you have been nineteen? Yeah? What was 360 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: anything interesting there? 361 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 6: Well? 362 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 7: First, she's writing, this is how firm a foundation? How 363 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 7: firm a foundation, you say to the Lord is laid 364 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 7: for your faith in his excellent word. 365 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: It looks like it's a song. 366 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: That's a found you says. 367 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 7: And then she writes maybe she wrote a poem, or 368 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 7: is this a hymn too? I will come to you 369 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 7: in the silence, I will lift you from all your fear. 370 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I think it's hymn. 371 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 7: And then she writes, Jesus, you keep answering my prayers. Yeah, 372 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 7: save me from the sin of a pusori apostasy. 373 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: That's a medieval term meaning abandoning the faith. 374 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 7: Teach me, please, teach me to angelized, to proclaim to 375 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 7: live the faith in love, to speak of you at 376 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 7: home and abroad. Amen. 377 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: I've written these same prayers in my journals, and in 378 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: reading Alana's words, I feel a little less alone. I 379 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: don't know anyone else who as a teen was this 380 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: focused on God. Joyce tells me that Alana also stood 381 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: out for her religiosity. She was known around town as 382 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: the Saint, and not just because of her prayers. 383 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 7: Oh my god, what this is a letter from Shorty. 384 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 7: Shorty was an alcoholic that Elana met under the bridge 385 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 7: in balder and would read the Bible to her. Shorty 386 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 7: lost her children. She was like the worst drunk I 387 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 7: met her, and Alana got her into this program to 388 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 7: get sober and Surety says, Hi, Alana, how are you doing. 389 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 7: I pray you're doing well and in good spirits. I 390 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 7: know the last letter you wrote you were having kind 391 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 7: of a crummy time. I don't know if I told 392 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 7: you that I moved last week. Now I've obtained permanent housing. 393 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 7: That's a chance in a lifetime thing. So I have 394 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 7: my very own apartment and it's brand new and never 395 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 7: been lived in it. I am stoked. 396 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 9: She was keeping in touch. 397 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 7: Wow, this is the. 398 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 9: Kind of stuff she did. 399 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: We find a few other letters like this, including one 400 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: from an inmate whu Alana evidently visited in jail. And 401 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: you can tell from these letters that Alana wasn't just 402 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: some drop in do gooder. She really had a relationship 403 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: with these people. 404 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 9: She was always like helping these people. 405 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: As we paged through her journals, we find plenty of 406 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: entries showing a young girl's enthusiasm for her faith, transcriptions 407 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: of prayers, and Novena's little to do lists. Clean the car, 408 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: call in, go to the bank, plan for the Rwanda trip, 409 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: Read Evangeli Gaudium, the book by the Pope. 410 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 7: Talking ticket, practice Hebrew. 411 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: And then we come across something different, and look. 412 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 7: At this, she writes. Not good enough, not good example 413 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 7: for kids, shy, never say the right thing, Useless, dry, 414 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 7: free loader, not a good Catholic, ugly, not important, stupid, annoying, distracted, 415 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 7: God gave up on me. Blame careless, nothing to say 416 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 7: God for everything. Bad daughter, don't show appreciation and patient, cocky, silent, 417 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 7: never defending God. Outcasts, can't talk to Father, deep because failure. 418 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 7: Only think of myself. Not a good friend, not a 419 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 7: team player, mean, too joy, angry, jealous, will never love enough, 420 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 7: self conscious, never live up to the Saints, confused to 421 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 7: tempt it, not pure. All I care about is Frisbee. 422 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: She turns the page. 423 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 7: God, I love you. Take all this crap, remove it, 424 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 7: overcome it, Teach me your ways, Love me carry me. 425 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 7: I keep trying to leave you, but I want you. 426 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 7: I want to live for you. I don't want anything 427 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 7: between you and me. Amen love alone. 428 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh this is crazy, Simon, all this weight that Alana 429 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: carried on her own without anyone knowing. She's so hard 430 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: on herself. And I wonder if Joyce ever noticed this. 431 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: When Alana was a kid. Was she always trying to 432 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: be perfect? 433 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 3: Even as like a little kid. 434 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 7: Any thing she said wanted that. She was always trying 435 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 7: to be perfect. And she knew that we liked math 436 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 7: and science, and she got the best grades to keep 437 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 7: us happy, and she didn't want to I got to fight, 438 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 7: so she would just never do anything. 439 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: To get trouble. Joyce looks at me and narrows her eyes. 440 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 9: You feel like I need to make it a sandwich? 441 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: Anything? 442 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 9: Is that? 443 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: Just like a Even with all that's going on, she 444 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: manages to be unintentionally funny. 445 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 7: This was I was telling you about this that I 446 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 7: found this on her keyboard. It would just like kind 447 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 7: of showed up and. 448 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm in Joyce's apartment and she holds up a folded 449 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: letter with Alana's own curly handwriting. 450 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 7: Do you, dear Alana, you are just a little girl. 451 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 7: But you really don't like yourself. What if I told 452 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 7: you that I love who you are. I love you 453 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 7: how you are and how you will be tomorrow. You 454 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 7: have beautiful hair and a beautiful face, and your family 455 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 7: would miss. 456 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 6: You if you were gone. 457 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: She takes a breath. 458 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 7: Dear Alana, I don't know what to say. I don't no, 459 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 7: I don't know what drove you to. 460 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: Hurt yourself so badly. You were all alone? Why were 461 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: you all alone? I know you don't understand how you 462 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 6: can be loved or redeemed. I wish you could see 463 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 6: that the people that love you, the people that matter, 464 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 6: they don't hold you to those standards. They don't see 465 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 6: you as defiled. They don't see you as someone that 466 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 6: needs to be fixed or different than who you are. 467 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 6: The people that love you are still with you. Those 468 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 6: other people that left, that walked away, that couldn't follow you, 469 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 6: they couldn't handle your light, they couldn't handle the shock, 470 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 6: the surprise. They were too weak to see you for 471 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 6: who you really are. But your mother, your real mother, 472 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 6: and your real father, and your brother and sisters, they 473 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: have walked with you. They see you, and now I 474 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: see you, and I love you so much. So I 475 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 6: read this with the memorial and like it was really 476 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: hard to But I don't know, like if she wrote 477 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 6: this the night before, I don't know, another time maybe, 478 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 6: But it's so beautiful but so sod. 479 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: As. 480 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: I imagine Alana writing this letter to herself. My heart breaks. 481 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: But that's not the only emotion I'm feeling. I'm feeling 482 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: something stirring inside of me, a combination of fear and dread. 483 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because everything Joyce is reading to me feels 484 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: so eerily familiar. I remember my earnest zeal, my spiritual rumination, 485 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: my feeling of being abandoned, and if I'm honest, it's 486 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: all stuff I'm still working through and I can't help 487 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: but wonder why I'm here and Alana's not. On Monday, 488 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: December ninth, twenty nineteen, Alana Chen died by suicide. You 489 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: may not understand how a young person so deeply in 490 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: love with God would want to take their own life, 491 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: but I do. I've been to that dark place where 492 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: the light seems so far away at the end of 493 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: a long day. Joyce is sitting across from me on 494 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: the floor, and there are papers everywhere. The giant tupperware 495 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: box looks like it's exploded. 496 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: Open. 497 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 7: Organize this, lady. Yeah, I'm never gonna you will. 498 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I can, all right, let's put this away. 499 00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: It'll be here. 500 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 7: She's never going to write this. 501 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 9: Because I want to just stand half of it, oppen. 502 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: I can feel Joyce's desperation, and I feel like I 503 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: already have so much to tell her about my own 504 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: life and how it might relate to Alana's. But am 505 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: I ready to go there? And what does this say 506 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: about a church I still know and love. I look 507 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: at Joyce surrounded by the notebooks, artwork, and photographs, her 508 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: daughter's life laid out on the hardwood floor, and then 509 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: I feel something else. It's a feeling of conviction. I 510 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: have to help her understand what happened to Alana. 511 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: I will follow you, follow you wherever you might go. 512 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: Next time on Dear Olana, Today, twenty two young women 513 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: will begin their journey toward becoming a nun. How Alana's 514 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: decision to become a nun is solidified when a controversial 515 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: priest offers her spiritual direction. 516 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: I will follow you ever since you touched my hand. 517 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 518 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Dear Alana was created hosted and written by me Simon 519 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: kentfang And is a production of Tenderfoot TV in association 520 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: with a Slept Audio and the Center for Independent Documentary. 521 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: It was produced by Laurie Puliski, who also composed the music. 522 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Executive producers are myself, Donald Albright, and Payne Lindsay. Our 523 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: supervising producer is Tracy leeds Kaplan. 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Show notes 526 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: and resources can be found on our website Diarlana dot com. 527 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed this episode, please take time to follow 528 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: the show, rate and review. 529 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: There is no Suti monton so high keep me away 530 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: away from the long. 531 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: Coming up this season. 532 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 7: I didn't want her to see him, and then she 533 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 7: was sneaking on the phone, and then like I'm here. 534 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 7: I am the mother who's bidding my daughter to see 535 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 7: a priest and to become a nun. And it was 536 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 7: what she wanted. It made her happy, but I didn't 537 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 7: know what since she confessed, I didn't know she was 538 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 7: attracted to girls. No, she didn't tell me. She told him. 539 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 7: She confessed to him. 540 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: We believe that homosexuality is a symptom of early childhood trauma. 541 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: We get the client to address those traumas and they 542 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: will just experience a diminishment in their same sex attraction. 543 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 8: It was like a big deal at the ten that 544 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 8: she was going on this date and he picked her up, 545 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 8: and like we had all met him. He's super nice, 546 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 8: he's handsome. 547 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: She brought me upstairs and so I don't know, what 548 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: is that? 549 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: Did you do this to yourself? 550 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: I was like, what did you do? 551 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Dear Alana is an eight part series released weekly. If 552 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: you can't wait until next week, subscribe to tenderfoot Plus 553 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: so you can binge the entire series right now, ad free. 554 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: Head to Apple Podcasts or tenorfoot plus dot com to 555 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: subscribe now. 556 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: MHM