1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: straight Fire? Fam? It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: June one, and everybody who's followed my career this podcast 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: knows June one is a story day in my history. 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it's not my birthday. I did not 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: get married on June one, but back in the day 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: now geez, twelve years ago, I sold the big lead 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: on June one. It was announced in the New York Times, 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: very exciting, and then June one, I signed a deal 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: to go to FS one and we moved from Pennsylvania 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: out to California. So this is my sixth year anniversary. 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I will say that June was incredible. It was Warriors 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: and Thunder. If you guys remember the Clay Thompson Game 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: six I I've talked about on the podcast. We're Packing 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: to Move and I refused to shut off the cable 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: until the very last minute, like literally day before, because 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: I needed a TV and a cable box to watch 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: that Warrior series that we move out here, Warriors lose 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: in one of the great finals, um probably of this century, 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: with obviously the Calves coming back, and then Kevin Durant joined, 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: so it was like, Jude's been good to me. We'll 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: see how good this June is. UM should be a 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: very very fun month. I think Celtics Warriors is going 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: to be great. I also want to add I I 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: have considered adding and I have not even run this 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: by Rob. This is I'm just jumping this on the 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: Producer to the stars right now, live as it's happening. 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: UM occasionally bringing on a movie guests to talk movies 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: because I cannot get enough of Top Gun Maverick. And 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: I went on social media this week and I had 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: given it some thought and I said, you know, Top 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Gun Maverick, I'm looking at the all the sequels of 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: all time, and you know, obviously Terminator two was amazing, um, 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: without question for me, the gold standard for sequels in 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: movie history. Dark Night was incredible. You go to Empire 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: strikes back, outstanding on a on a comedy level. Twenty 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: two Jump Street. I love that that two Jump Street 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: with Channing Tatum and Jonahill. Love those. I think topic 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: on Maverick is in there. I think it has a 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: case to be arguably the greatest sequel ever. I know 41 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: some people are yelling Godfather to Godfather too. Sorry, guys, 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that in forever, so I need to 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: watch god Father too. But I think we're gonna have 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: to bring on a movie guest now that you know 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: movies are back and people are in the cinema, just 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: to maybe change it up once after the NBA Finals 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: are done, you know, summer things slow down, we can 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: we can bring on a movie guest. I'm open to people, 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: So if you want to hit me on social media 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: you say this guy is really good, I think we 51 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: can get almost anyone. Um, that's not just me bragging. 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: I just I mean we're talking about movies on a podcast. 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Who doesn't love to talk movies? So um, I think 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: we'll we'll fix that in eventually, but first we're gonna 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: talk NBA. Tomorrow will be the big preview for UM 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Celtics Warriors. We have a potential guest lined up. We 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: will see. This guest has played for one of the 58 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: finals teams. It should be good. We'll see if we 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: can land him. Well, if not, trust me, there's lots 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: of betting opportunities. I don't know if you guys saw this. 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Jordan's pool was two to one to win. Finals m 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: v P right before the playoffs two. He's now thirty 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: two one, and I know what you're saying, he's gonna 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: get played off the floor. We'll talk all about that tomorrow. Today, 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Rob the great producer has found an awesome topic. You know. 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: He he produces some radio show I forget the name 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: of it, uh, And he's got to come up with 68 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: good topics for those guys. And he found a good 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: one about Golden State and how they have been able 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: to get back to the finals. And I guess the 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: big picture when you zoom out and look at it, 72 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: is how the hell did Golden State pull this off? 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Because they were supposed to be dead and buried when 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Durant left. Remember two weeks ago, Durant DM me, what's 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: my narrative if Golden State loses? Golden States out on 76 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: the finals KD. So I'm sure we'll do plenty on 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. That being said, I actually reading the story 78 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: from Rob. Joe Lacub the Warriors GM came out maybe 79 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: he's a Warrior's owner, I forget, came out and said 80 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff about how, hey, this has all 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: gone as we planned. We drew it up this way, 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: we're smarter than everybody. Like, that's not the good tack 83 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: to approach it with. But my overall takeaway pretty clearly 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: is it is much much more difficult to prolong a 85 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: dynasty than it is to build one. Anybody can pare 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: two stars together and get something awesome cooking, keeping that going. 87 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about NBA but NFL as well. 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: We're seeing it right now with the Kansas City Chiefs. 89 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: They will be tested. Right Patrick Mahomes goes a f 90 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: C championship, Super Bowl, super Bowl loss, a f C championship, 91 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: They've got a dynasty cooking. Seattle Seahawks had a dynasty cooking. 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: Agent of Boom gets old, falls apart. Now the Chiefs lose. 93 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: They're arguably one of their best defensive players in the 94 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: Honey Badger, and now they had to trade Tyreek Hill. 95 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is getting old. Can they keep it going? 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: Can they stay on top? That's gonna be tough, but 97 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: you gotta start like the Homes, you can make it happen. 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: The NBA is even easier to create a dynasty because 99 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: you get these legendary players and you only have five starters. 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: The guy can impact so much more than a quarterback. 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Hen if you look at these Warriors, how are they 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: back here? Because, folks, we saw Kobe and Shack right. 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Shack comes over via free agency from Orlando. They win 104 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: three straight finals, then they lose in the second round. Listen, 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: it's tough to get to the finals four times in 106 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: a row. That's very difficult. Other than Lebron and the 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, it is almost never done in the 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: modern era get to the finals four times in a row. 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: So they lose to the Spurs and then they get 110 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: waxed by the Pistons. That was the year they add 111 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: like Karl Malone, Gary Payton and it fizzled out. Guess 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: what Shack and Kobe have falling out and the next 113 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: three years or a waste land for the Lakers until 114 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: they've trade for Pau Gasol. And I've been on record, 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't think this is some hot take rob. If 116 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: they don't get Gassole, Kobe doesn't have any more finals trips. 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: They you needed to make that happen. So he gets three, 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: he gets Gasol. They go to the finals three years 119 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: in a row. They win two out of three. Let's 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: look at I think a better example which had a 121 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: lot more luck. Now again, trading for Gasol was kind 122 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: of fortuitous, like that was a great that was a heist, 123 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: if you will. The San Antonio Spurs are really what 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: the Warriors are. Their their their premise. Right. You look 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: at the Spurs, and we've talked about this on the pod. 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: This is not news. Papovitch was the GM had David Robinson. 127 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: There was a million injuries on the team. Popovitch fires, 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: the coach says, you know what, I'll be the coach. 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: They tank and they get Tim Duncan. Boom. What happens 130 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: in in nine They draft Duncan. I think he went 131 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: number one overall in like seven. They win title in 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: ninety nine, strike short and season they beat the next. 133 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: Duncan was incredible at twenty two years old. But look 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: at the rest of the roster. You got Sean Elliot 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: getting old, Avery Johnson getting old, David Robinson getting old. 136 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: But Spurs are have a pretty good nucleus built around Duncan. 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: And here's where the luck is involved and where the 138 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: Warriors parallel lines up. If you think back to those 139 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Spurs team after they beat the Knicks, they didn't get 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: to the finals until two thousand three, Shack and Kobe ascended. 141 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: The Spurs got lucky and robbed. This is where the 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Warriors also got lucky. San Antonio lands Manu ginobl a 143 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer late second round in they draft Tony 144 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Parker Future Finals m v P late first round two 145 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: thousand one. Folks, you gotta hit on those picks. You 146 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: don't land Parker, you don't land Gennoble. The Spurs don't 147 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: have a dynasty where they go to the finals. And 148 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: I wrote this down. They went to the finals when 149 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: you can those heat one, two, three, four, five six 150 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: times in fifteen seasons, and we call that a dynasty. 151 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: The Warriors are their sixth and eight years, six trip 152 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: to the finals in eight years. So the Warriors, that's 153 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: why I said they have as good of a dynasty 154 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: as the Bulls. It's better than the Spurs. And that's 155 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: what the Spurs getting lucky. Now, how do the Spurs 156 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: go and this is similar to the guess soul. How 157 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: do you go from beating the knicks of the finals, 158 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: the nets, the pistons, the calfs. How do you get 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: back once Manu and Parker get old? Because Spurs kind 160 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: of struggle for a bit. Ah that's where the Kawhi 161 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: Leonard trade comes in, and folks, the Kawhi Leonard trade 162 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: was a stroke of genius because Popovic's favorite player was 163 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: George Hill. But they knew that the Pacers loved George Hill, 164 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: so they were able to Kauai falls to them in 165 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: the draft. They ship Hill to the uh to the Pacers, 166 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: they get Kawhi Leonard via the trade, and boom they 167 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: get back to the finals with Kauai and Tim Duncan. 168 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: That dynasty would have kept going right you Duncan retires, 169 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: you build around Kauai. But what happened. Kauai gets hurt 170 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: against Look at this, Look at this. This is beautiful. 171 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: A dovetails right into those Warriors with Katie and Curry. 172 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: Because if you go back to seventeen and I watched 173 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: this game on YouTube, you can do the condensed version 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: Game one Western Conference Finals, Kevin Durant versus Kawhi Leonard. 175 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: The Warriors had not lost a game in the playoffs 176 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: to two rounds. They find themselves down twenty five at 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: home in Game one. I think it was on Mother's 178 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: Day to Kauai Leonard and the Spurs. They were down 179 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty five. Of course, then the Zaza Pachulia unfortunate, Kauai 180 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: lands on his foot. I don't think it was dirty. 181 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Come on, it was a close out. It wasn't. It 182 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: wasn't super dirty. Now that's considered dirty, but I didn't 183 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: if you look at the replay, like Zaza was incense 184 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: that it was a foul and he just landed on 185 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: the guy's foot. Now did he close out too closely? 186 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: Spurs fans will obviously yes, say yes, But you look 187 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: at replay and it's like he didn't look dirty. He's 188 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: going up to kind of contest at any rate. Kawai 189 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: goes down midway through the third, Warriors are race point deficit. 190 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: The rest is history. I don't know if Kauai. I 191 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: think he played maybe a couple more games. Remember the injury, 192 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: um and that was it. That was it for Kawhi 193 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Leonard and he moves on. Dynasty over. It was over. 194 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: And now the Spurs are probably gonna have you know, 195 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't know when they're gonna win a playoff series again. 196 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: But you look at these Warriors and their position to 197 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: keep it going. Now they do have kind of an 198 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: older team when you look at Clay, Curry is thirty four, 199 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Draymond is thirty two, and he's already, you know, showed 200 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: some signs of I mean, he's just an offensive liability 201 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: at this point. He would even admit that maybe one 202 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: game he'll he'll he'll hit some shots. But if you 203 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: look at their roster, they are old. But just like 204 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: the Spurs, the Warriors are doing a great job of 205 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: building on the fly. I mean, you can't keep thirty 206 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: four year old Curry thirty two year old dre Um 207 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Clay is thirty two with two seasons missed unless you 208 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: get lucky. And Rob this is where you and I disagree, 209 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: because Rob's gonna make his case that they're not like 210 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: the Spurs. I felt the Spurs got super lucky with 211 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: the Kawhile Ender trade. I felt like the Lakers got 212 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: lucky with the Pauga Soul trade. The Warriors got lucky. 213 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: They took on D'Angelo Russell. It was a colossal failure, 214 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: and they got lucky shipping him to Minnesota for Andrew Wiggins. 215 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: And I know Wiggins was number one overall. He's clearly 216 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: not a number one guy. He's in a perfect role 217 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: in Golden State. Him plus Jordan Pool can be your bridge. 218 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, if Wiseman or cominga hit, 219 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: and maybe they do, Wiseman will see Cominga is super 220 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: bouncy and fun. I mean, remember Cominga is nineteen, folks, 221 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: and he's played some pretty good minutes. I'm not gonna 222 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: hype up Moses Moody, but he's been all right. You 223 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: get one out of those three to be all star level, 224 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: and why can't they keep this going? Rob? I feel 225 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: like they have played it perfectly getting Wiggins for Russell. Now, 226 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: if they had kept Russell, obviously the same working out, 227 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: because we know Russell's ain't that guy. Wiggins is the 228 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: perfect wing defender. And to me, I know memphisis coming, 229 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: I know Dallas is coming. I know Lebron and a 230 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: d are not done. And I've already said the Clippers 231 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: will be the best team in the West next year. 232 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: But Rob, when you look at the luck that it 233 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: takes to keep these dynasties going, I feel like the 234 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: Warriors have gotten a little bit lucky. Fox Sports Radio 235 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 236 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com 237 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: and within the I heart radio app search f s 238 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: R to listen live. It's funny that you brought up 239 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: the Spurs, because before we started recording, I was telling 240 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: you how I was so upset, I guess, for lack 241 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: of a better word, with the Joe Lago comments, explaining how, yeah, 242 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, we made this plan to rather than it 243 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: in our chip for a superstar, we're just gonna build 244 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: from within a draft and we're gonna win forever. That's 245 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: our goal. And while that is happening, I guess you 246 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: could say this does not validate in any way that 247 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: line of thinking. It's like if you went to a 248 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: blackjack table and you had eighteen and the dealer you 249 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: know has a six, and you decide to double down 250 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: and get a three. Like, just because it worked out 251 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that it was the right way of 252 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: thinking about doing it. That wasn't the right uh strategy 253 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: to employ the Golden State Warriors. If you believe that Steph, 254 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Clay and Draymond on their own is a championship trio, 255 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: then you made a huge mistake by not trading in 256 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: those chips while you could the Wiseman, the Commingo, the Moody, 257 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: whoever they end up being those three guys. But whatever 258 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: the picks, we're gonna be for a Brad Beel, for 259 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: a pick whoever Ben Simmons, pick whoever your star player 260 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: that's available. Right, what the Golden State Warrior have done, 261 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that you brought up the Spurs because 262 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: again it's luck, it's not necessarily then being smarter than 263 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: everybody else. What they've done since is go against what 264 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom were in this case, goes against what they 265 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: claim to all be about. All right, during their seventy 266 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: three win season the same Joe lacub went on a 267 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: media tour, it was a radio interview whatever, and he says, 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: we're light years ahead of everybody else. Not a smart 269 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: thing to say, right, And at the time you're like, 270 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to really say anything negative because 271 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: they were on an all time pace. Right as soon 272 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: as they blow that three one, well actually no, they 273 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: were down three one to Kevin Durant's Oklahoma City team. 274 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: Then they go on the finals, So it took a 275 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: meltdown of epic proportions by k D and Rust before 276 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: that's even happened. They get to the finals, they blow 277 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: the three one lead to Lebron and for the team 278 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: that is supposedly smarter than everyone, that's light years ahea 279 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: of the rest of the league. They're big. You know. 280 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: Counter move is, well, let's just sign the greatest free 281 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: agent available since Lebron James Uh. Let's sign what is it, 282 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: the third greatest free agent since Shaquille O'Neal, like Kevin 283 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: Durant at that time. If you were to put him 284 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: on literally any one of the top five teams in 285 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: the NBA, that team is instantly going to win at 286 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: least the next new championships. That's fair. Let me let 287 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: me do a counter though, couldn't you say lake up? 288 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: The way they built internally made them more attractive than 289 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: any other team for Durant, and they had to have 290 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: the cap space to sign him because if if the 291 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: memory serves, it was basically down to Golden State, Boston 292 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: and Miami and so smarter than anything. Kind of but 293 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: this this wasn't them planning this out. This was a 294 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: quirk in the system where the Caps spiked tremendously because 295 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: the NBA players agotiation didn't want the new TV money 296 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: to be a smooth cap where it was gradual. They said, no, 297 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: we've been waiting for this money. It's available, let's do 298 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: it all at once, which is how you ended up 299 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: with Timofey, Mozgov, Chandler, Parsons, Lull Dang getting bigger deals 300 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: than damn near anybody else before them. Like that's what happened. 301 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: It was, but they were also small. Okay, give them 302 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: credit for not wasting money the way right, Well, the 303 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: problem is that it all happened the same summer. It's 304 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: not like that they were ahead of the curve in 305 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: any kind of way. The The year before that, I believe, 306 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: is when they had signed Andrea I Guadala or two 307 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: years before that. Smart that was their big free agent acquisition. 308 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Andrea I Guadala is a great player, right, but for 309 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: him too, I think was their highest paid player on 310 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: the team at that time, says a lot about you know, 311 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: what their free agency acumen was, it was saying, and 312 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: they almost I think traded for Dwight Howard. If you 313 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: go way back and look, they tried like hell to 314 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: get Dwight Howard. I think he ended up in Houston. 315 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: They tried to get uh, Kevin Love. They were they 316 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: had a deal in place with Clay Thompson being traded 317 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: for Kevin Love and Jerry West came in and talked 318 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: him out of it. It's it's well reported, it's all 319 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: the way out so so that that some of that 320 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: is luck, obviously, I think it's a combination, right, Like 321 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: you talk about your career, my career, the Warriors, Um, 322 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs trading up for Patrick mahomes a 323 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: lot some of it is luck, But the smarter aspect, 324 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you can underestimate how tough 325 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: it is to keep it going once you know you're 326 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: building the awesome championship while championship team while also looking 327 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: ahead to three or four years down the road. I mean, 328 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: there's a reason the Bulls have been a total disaster 329 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: since Jordan left. With the exception of a few Derrick Rosiers, 330 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: They've done nothing. They've been in the wilders. They never 331 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: planned ahead. I joked that, you know when when me 332 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: and the wife were dating way back, I had like 333 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: a planning for the few true folder that was so 334 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: nerdy where I like wanted to buy an apartment complex 335 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: and rent out apartments, like I had all these plans obviously, 336 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: like the best known plans that you have are gonna 337 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: fall awry. But the idea that you're actually building an 338 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: infrastructure or some kind of system to enable future success, 339 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: Like I gotta give the guy a little credit, Rob 340 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of now here the difference between like, Okay, you're 341 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: very successful in your field. I'm decently successful in my 342 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, laying in that field. Neither one of us 343 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: is going out of our way to do interviews to say, 344 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: you know what, meet me to start in the big 345 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: lead is pretty genius. You know, meet me, Yeah, yeah, 346 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: you know, meet me getting on the herd and and 347 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: doing the tomorrow's headlines today. I'm not gonna lie. I'm 348 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: light years ahead of the rest of the guys in 349 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: this game. You know, no no one else is doing this. 350 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: This is why I'm special. And it's like, yes, you 351 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: were prepared. You you made some of the shrewd moves 352 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: both professional and personally that paid off, but you also 353 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: have some things work in your favor. And what Joe 354 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: Laco and the Golden State Warriors continue continue to do, 355 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: and they do this for the last six seven years, 356 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: is they like to make you think that everything and 357 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: all their success has come about because they do it's smarter, better, 358 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: more efficiently than the rest of the NBA, and that's 359 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: just not true against you add Kevin Durant to any 360 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: one of those top four in either team playoff teams, 361 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: and they're gonna win the championship. He leaves suddenly, they 362 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs anymore. This season, they're in the finals. 363 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: But we talked about this earlier this week, how many times, 364 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: how many guys were injured this year, how many how 365 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: many all star level players were hurt that specifically, that 366 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: just that the Warriors faced they had no lebron this 367 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: year because the Russell Westbrook trade completely you know, through 368 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: them through loop and and wrecked their whole season. So, yes, 369 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: be happy that you're there, Be happy that things have 370 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: worked out for you, But continuing to say that we 371 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: are head and shoulders light years ahead of the rest 372 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: of the league is just false. Yeah what okay? So 373 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: how about this? This is another good kind of sliding 374 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: doors moment. Two thousand twenty draft. Anthony Edwards goes one 375 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: because of the Warriors injuries to Clay and Curry, they're 376 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: drafting second. They get Wiseman. He's done pretty much zero. 377 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to look for his total he has like 378 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: five points in the NBA okay in in two seasons. 379 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: A lot of people said, can you imagine this team 380 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: if they had LaMelo Ball, But Rob I would counter, 381 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: they drafted Jordan Pool late first round in twin. Does 382 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: Jordan's Pool pop if they get LaMelo Ball and I 383 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: would I would say, no, he doesn't. And now Jordan 384 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Pool is going to be one of the best discounts 385 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: in the league right because he's late first round, like 386 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball is good. But I gotta be honest, I 387 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: think Jordan Pool fits the team better than the Melo 388 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Ball would. But they had no idea that Jordan Pool 389 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: was going to be this good. But maybe they do. 390 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: You don't go from G league to potentially twenty million 391 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: dollars a season in the next contract in one year 392 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: without you having some unforeseen development. Because Jordan Pool, if 393 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: he was really as good as he turned out to 394 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: be or is turning out to be, he would have 395 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: been getting heavy minutes last season. He would have been 396 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: getting thirty five plus minutes just because they know, Hey, 397 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: the potential is there, we just got to get him reps. 398 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: They had no idea that he was going to be 399 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: this good, which is why he was in the G League. Okay, Cominga, 400 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: they take seventh in this past draft. Again, young, bouncy, athletic. 401 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Like if you look at the way they're building, I 402 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: would Again, I can't speak for them, but they had 403 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: Clay and Currie. You needed another electric guard, right and 404 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: that maybe they saw that that was gonna be Pool. 405 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: And they had Wiggins as a small four, but they 406 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: needed to kind of round out the front court so 407 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: they're flexible if they face a big center. Hey, we 408 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: got Wiseman. You know they face Cominga is gonna have 409 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: his moments. Draymond is not gonna be there forever. Kevan 410 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: Luney is stuck around. I mean, the Komena pick has 411 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: kind of worked out. You look at like, listen, Davian 412 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: Mitchell had an awesome rookie year. He was phenomenal in Sacramento, 413 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: but does he fit on this team or again, did 414 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: they think, you know what we got Pool? We don't 415 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: need Mitchell. We don't need Franz Wagner, who was very 416 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: good in Orlando. But like they got Moody fourteenth. Like 417 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: I can't, I don't. I can't say that everything they've 418 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: done has turned to goal because Weisman could end up 419 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: as a flop, but Rob, some of this is it? 420 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Look how much of it was luck that Tony Parker 421 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: and Man who both end up you know, like late 422 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: first late second round picks to the Spurs and both 423 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: were absolute grand slams. Well, yeah, that's they had a 424 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: great scouting department. I'm not saying the Warriors don't have 425 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: a good scanty department. That's not what I'm saying at all. 426 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: But the Coamingo and and and Moody, they may or 427 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: may not be really good players down the road. We 428 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: don't know. The Spurs, for all the talk of their 429 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote dynasty, they went seven years in between their 430 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: fourth and fifth championship of the duncan Era. Fox Sports 431 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 432 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 433 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f 434 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. I don't know about you. 435 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just because I'm a Laker 436 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: fan and I view things differently than the rest of 437 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: Basketball America. We go, but if I'm rooting for a team, 438 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't give a ship. If we're competitive for five 439 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: or six years, but don't win anything. All right, You're 440 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: we're in the business of championships. This is what I 441 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: thought the Golden State Warriors were. As soon as Stephan 442 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Clay and Draymond won that first one. I thought that 443 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: their idea and this is all that you know Draymond 444 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: will talk about on this podcast. I mean, even Kyle 445 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: Labry only has one ring and he wasn't even good 446 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: in that series. Says this season was a waste for 447 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: me because we didn't win the championship. That's idiotic. But 448 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if if if your goal is championship 449 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: or bust, in what world does it make sense to 450 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: say we are not going to trade these picks for 451 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: a proven start to improve our chances of winning a championship. Jason, 452 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you're picking the Warriors. I already know that. Yeah, I 453 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: think you have been six. Would you have the Warriors 454 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: in five or Warriors in sweep if instead of cominga 455 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: Wiseman or Moody they had Bradley Beale? Um, Yes, you would, 456 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: you would pick You would feel better about that. But 457 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: do you have Wiggins, yes, or whoever? I don't know 458 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: however you want to do. I don't know that they 459 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: could have had all those guys, but yeah, Bradley Beal 460 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: obviously would make this team excellent. That being said, I 461 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: don't think you could really argue there in the finals. 462 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: You know. It's like, I know there was some looking, 463 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: but what if they lose. They lose not bad. It's 464 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: not considered to make the championship and lose and be 465 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: competitive to be a contender for four or five years 466 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: and not win, rather than push all your chips in 467 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: when this year maybe possibly win next year and then 468 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: you're back starting all over again. Rob, we need to 469 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: bury this idea that getting to the finals and losing 470 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: is like somehow you're useless. Like, I just want to 471 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: mind people like John Stockton played for like twenty years, 472 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: made the finals twice. Karl Malone I think played twenty years, 473 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: made the finals twice and then had to go and 474 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: hit your ride on the Kobe Shack train to get 475 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: to the finals and he lost Kr Malone oh and 476 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: three in the finals. Like, it is incredibly tough to 477 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: simply get to the finals. And we're losing sight of 478 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: that because people lose the finals. You know, Toronto, they're 479 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: not gonna let's be real, right, Toronto and getting back 480 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: to the finals for another decade, maybe twenty years, I know, thirty. 481 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't know are they ever gonna get back? They 482 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: got there. Fred Van Philip was a credible I would 483 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: agree with you. He was better than Lowry. They had 484 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Kauai for one season. I don't think that they would 485 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: trade that for anything. Just getting to the finals is 486 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: so tough, like, yeah, but they they are the example 487 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: of what I'm talking about. They were on the doorstep 488 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: for three or four years. And to your point, Toronto's 489 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: probably never gonna win another championship. So they could have 490 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: easily said, hey, we're comfortable being a three seed of 491 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: four seed home corner advantage making second round, maybe get 492 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: to the conference final here and there, or we can 493 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: trade our most popular player because we think we have 494 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: a chance to win it this season. And that's what 495 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: they did. And I don't understand why that's such a 496 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: controversial take. I understand if you are the Sacramento Kings 497 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: or the Clippers who have never won anything, you're like, hey, 498 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: we're just happy to be in the conversation. But as 499 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: soon as the Golden State Warriors won that first one, 500 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: and they were all so young, and then the second season, 501 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: they wont seventy three games. You're like, all right, it 502 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You know. The conversation with them wasn't about 503 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: are they going to get back here? It's how many 504 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: are they gonna win? Like that's that's the rarefied air 505 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: that they had entered as soon as they want that 506 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: first one and had that great season the second time, 507 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: and now it seems like they've decided that they're much 508 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: more comfortable being the San Antonio Spurs, who you know 509 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: are always in the make but only win once every 510 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: six seven years, rather than being the shot Kobe Lakers 511 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: or the Heatles, who are say We're going to dominate 512 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: for two or three seasons and see what happens after that. 513 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: So I think you're viewing it through the eyes of 514 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: Korean Clay right, like I want to start, I want 515 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: to win now because my career is short. It's sad, 516 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: sadly probably to the listeners. I'm viewing it from the 517 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: front office perspective. And I know, listen, I know nobody 518 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: really cares that much. But you guys, remember I had 519 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: the Nick Coxa, one of the owners, on a couple 520 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, like offseason's official, it begins and moves 521 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: are being made, and you know, again we're thinking, how 522 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: do we go from you know, losing the first round 523 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: of the playoffs to make that next step while retaining 524 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: some stars. But you also there's a business you gotta 525 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: you want to be profitable, but you want championships, and 526 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a very difficult dance. I'm looking at 527 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: from the Golden State front office perspective. I would much 528 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: rather have a six and fifteen or I guess the 529 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: words would be, you know, you know, if Cominga and 530 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: Wiseman hit, they're looking at maybe I don't know, seven 531 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: in nine, eight in eleven trips to the finals. That's 532 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: unheard of. That's nineteen sixties Celtics stuff. But you can't 533 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: you can't count on that though. You can't count on anything. 534 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you trayed for Bradley Bill. He could get hurt. 535 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's anything. I think if you were to say, 536 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: what's more likely Bradley beald on. This team is a 537 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: championship contender immediately for a year or two, or that 538 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: Comino and Wiseman eventually developed into a championship corps. Well, 539 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: I think next season is going to be the one 540 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: and maybe they lose to the Celtics. Next season would 541 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: be the one where I think we see that they 542 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: have aired not getting another wing if the Clippers are 543 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: as good as advertised. But then again, look at the Lubbers, 544 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean they get the wings. You know, 545 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: they are the nightmare scenario with this because they pushed 546 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: all in and nothing to show for it. I mean 547 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: they didn't even have a final trip. Bro, It's been 548 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: an epic disaster. Um, so it can go either way. 549 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: That's the beauty kind of sports and especially the NBA. 550 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: But um, that was fun, good disagreement, healthy disagreement. I Also, 551 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a draft nerd, so I love when 552 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: you can when teams like hit on picks. And even 553 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: a guy like Kevon Looney, I mean, you know, he's 554 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: been kind of an integral part rob. You can't again, 555 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: he's not like the third most important guy or the fourth, 556 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: but grabbing Kevon looneyt U c l a guy like 557 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: you in the first round, like that's kind of a steel. 558 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Looney has been a solid player. Man. Now Montrez 559 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Harrold went a couple of picks later, but there's a 560 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: million flame out too, went after him, Josh Richardson's gotten paid. 561 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: He's pretty good. Pat Connaughton has a ring with Milwaukee. 562 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: But it's tough to hit on these picks. You go 563 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: look at that Looney draft. It's so funny. There's sixty picks. 564 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Go look at picks forty six through sixty. After Norman Powell, 565 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: who's been really good, big basically, nobody's done a damn thing. 566 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: The Spurs hit Manu Ginobli a Hall of famer there. 567 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: That that's I mean, that's got to be the height 568 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: of luck, is it not? Yeah, just a little bit. 569 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: And it's funny that I just wedged into U. C. 570 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: L a comments with George, Norman Powell and Kevin Luney. 571 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: You didn't even get excited. I mean, it's hard to 572 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: get super excited about Norman Powell because he's a Clipper. Now, 573 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: that's right, I forgot Yeah, yeah, yeah, alright, So, um, 574 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: that was fun. We'll be back tomorrow, obviously doing a 575 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: lot of final stuff. I would I would kick the 576 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: tires on Jordan Pool thirty to one to win the 577 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: finals MVP. I wouldn't go too heavy, um, but thirty 578 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: one ain't bad. Talk to you tomorrow.