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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Friday edition

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Speaker 1: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. A lot

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Speaker 1: of big news today before I tell you about all

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Speaker 1: of that, so we'll let you know. We've got a

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Speaker 1: fantastic guest lineup. Our friend Jedded Diahbiela, you know or

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Speaker 1: from the view from Fox News. She's talking to us

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Speaker 1: about the situation of schools, children, the agenda of the left,

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Speaker 1: all that that'll be coming up later in the show.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Ryan Gerdusky on immigration and where things stand

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Speaker 1: with the elections coming up on that issue. And then

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Speaker 1: special guests in the third hour, a former top gun instructor,

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Speaker 1: a naval Aviator F eighteen pilot of many years, and

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Speaker 1: also the father of my current girlfriend. I gotta say

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Speaker 1: I saw his bio and I was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if I'd be comfortable dating this guy's daughter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's such a badass. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you can even be in the same category as that, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of the badass resumes of

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Speaker 1: all time. Not only him, he's a third generation fighter pilot,

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Speaker 1: I just know that I shouldn't show up with aviators

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Speaker 1: on shake his hand and say, don't worry, sir, We're

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Speaker 1: not taking a highway to the danger zone. You know,

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Speaker 1: so I don't think you. I mean, CIA job is

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Speaker 1: a pretty badass job. You've got a good job now

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Speaker 1: with radio. But I saw this resume and I was like, man, Buck,

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Speaker 1: Buck is really gonna have trouble living up to the

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Speaker 1: badass accomplishments here. Thanks for turning up the intimidation factor. Clay,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, Clays. Clay's always rooting for me team basically

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Speaker 1: Maverick's daughter, So this is not an easy thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Fair points. So we thought, given the success of the

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Speaker 1: Maverick movie and how amazing it is to have an

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Speaker 1: actual top gun instructor of many years now retired. But

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Speaker 1: naval aviator talk about the program and he saw the movie,

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Speaker 1: so we can ask him some questions about what's real

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Speaker 1: what's not. So that's all come up later third hour.

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Speaker 1: I have some fun with that. Obviously. The two big

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Speaker 1: news items, one I'm is supposed to be big news

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Speaker 1: and the other is actually big news. What I mean

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Speaker 1: by this is the Democrats want us to spend the

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Speaker 1: whole day today on defense. This was the plan they

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Speaker 1: had the January six prime time whatever hearing last night.

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to be six nights of this, I think,

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Speaker 1: or six sessions of this something like that. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: do multiple days of Scott Clay. We talked Yester about

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Speaker 1: how much of it, and we're not diving into that, folks.

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Speaker 1: There's something more important going on, but I just want

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Speaker 1: to know how much of it? Did you watch? How

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Speaker 1: much could your stomach twenty minutes I basically said, hey,

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Speaker 1: which is more than most people who are casually interested

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Speaker 1: to me, I'll stay on. And twenty minutes in we

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Speaker 1: made the switch from I think Benny Thomas or whatever

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Speaker 1: that guy's name is Thompson to Liz Cheney, and I

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Speaker 1: thought both of them were pretty boring, and they were reciting,

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Speaker 1: essentially facts that had already been written about some of

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Speaker 1: them months ago in the newspapers. And obviously you and

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Speaker 1: I stay at tuned to every little detail there, so

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Speaker 1: I wasn't learning anything new. I turned it off and

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Speaker 1: I went and started reading the book that you suggested

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Speaker 1: to me, the Endurance Book about the Shackleton Antarctica Expedition, which,

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Speaker 1: that was my That was my evening of activity in

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Speaker 1: the Travis household. Yes, well done, sir. I'm still making

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Speaker 1: my way through Undaunted Courage, which is also fantastic. But see,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, Clay and I watched, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: I got up and watched the whole thing on playback,

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Speaker 1: and there was nothing new. The biggest omission from you

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Speaker 1: what actually happened while they're putting on this extravaganza last night.

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Speaker 1: And some of this we do have to push back

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Speaker 1: inflation numbers came in, and the Nostradamis of Nashville over

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Speaker 1: here was correct in that last night it's all, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the insurrection. But to the rest of America,

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Speaker 1: they're drinking their soy milk. To the rest of America,

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Speaker 1: the much bigger issue, by the way, that soy milk

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Speaker 1: is getting a lot more expensive is inflation, which I thought,

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Speaker 1: worse can it get for Biden? Right at some point

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Speaker 1: you feel like they must have hit something in approximating

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Speaker 1: political bottom. Nope, gave them too much credit. The inflation

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Speaker 1: The one that people, I think more than anything, Clay

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Speaker 1: national average right now, give or take, this is just

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Speaker 1: economically politically untenable for this regime. Yeah, and look, I

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Speaker 1: mean putting it into context. You just turned forty, right

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Speaker 1: this past a year. In your entire life, inflation has

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Speaker 1: December of nineteen eighty one, I was a year old

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there like, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: we're listening to two. You know, if you're in your seventies,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to us, and you think we're whipper snappers, right,

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Speaker 1: But there's also people in their twenties and thirties listening.

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Speaker 1: For a large majority of Americans, right, the average American

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Speaker 1: today has not been alive for inflation at this level,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty wild to think about. Buck and what

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Speaker 1: I said yesterday, and I put out tweets about it.

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Speaker 1: You can follow at Buck Sexton. You can follow at

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis. We're fighting the battles on social media fronts

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Speaker 1: that we fight on radio as well. I said, this

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Speaker 1: going to react. Everybody's gonna be talking about it. Early morning.

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Speaker 1: then early on this morning, we're gonna get an inflation

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Speaker 1: up twelve percent the largest in nearly twenty years. Rent up, airfare, up, services,

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Speaker 1: all up massively, Right, So it isn't just that, hey,

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Speaker 1: well this price is up, you can kind of avoid it.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you are buying right now, you are paying potentially

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, buck at five dollars basically a gallon

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Speaker 1: of gas, which has never occurred before inflation adjusted, were

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Speaker 1: And how many people do you think are waking up

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Speaker 1: this morning saying, boy, I'm really glad the Democrats decided

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Speaker 1: looking five months into the future and saying, what are

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Speaker 1: massive default tax increase? And let me just say this, Buck,

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Speaker 1: also a lot of Democrats who listened to us on

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Speaker 1: and say all spending is done. We cannot allow the

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Speaker 1: US expenditure. We got to hold the ground now, and

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Speaker 1: years of the Biden administration. Every Republican, I really mean this,

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Speaker 1: inflation worse, and that their number one priority is going

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Speaker 1: everybody's ability to make purchases and live with these continued increases. Overall,

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Speaker 1: we're facing, I think has become too obvious. So a

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Speaker 1: recession is going to be a word that you start

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Speaker 1: to hear. And for example, I mean, here's here's a

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Speaker 1: rate interest rates a full point now, and that means

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Speaker 1: recession is going to come along with it. Two play

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Speaker 1: clip three point six percent inflation. I don't see how

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Speaker 1: the Fed can avoid significant rate increases in the immediate future.

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Speaker 1: What do you say, Well, I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're at dead right, so still baked in

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Speaker 1: the cake here is fifty fifty fifty in September, and

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Speaker 1: probably they're going to have to do more in November December.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, dayant to try to knock down

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Speaker 1: inflation expectations and raise it by one full percentage point

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Speaker 1: and probably do that a second time in July number

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Speaker 1: the Discuy write we had a huge recession. Well you

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Speaker 1: of this. I frankly don't think you can avoid recession.

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Speaker 1: We've been saying recession. I'm not an economist, Clay, neither

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Speaker 1: are you. We know a lot of stuff about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things, but we've been saying recession since January basically.

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and you are voting libertarian and I

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Speaker 1: voted libertarian before, so I'm criticizing people like me. Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: I And look, I live in Tennessee. My vote for

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Speaker 1: president really doesn't matter most years. Right, whoever the Republican

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Speaker 1: is is going to win by thirty points. Now, I'll

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Speaker 1: vote for him in twenty twenty four or her, whoever

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Speaker 1: the person is. But if you live in a toss

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Speaker 1: up state and you are voting libertarian, I think you're

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Speaker 1: a bozo. I think you are an imbecile and you

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Speaker 1: should be making more rational decisions. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna try to do. I mean, Liz Cheney's

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Speaker 1: gonna run she's gonna get crushed. In twenty two. She's

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Speaker 1: gonna run, argue she's a truth teller. Run in twenty

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Speaker 1: four nobody likes her, She's not gonna get any support.

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Speaker 1: And then she's gonna say I'm gonna run as an independent,

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Speaker 1: trying to peel away a certain amount of Trump voters.

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Speaker 1: And here's one more prediction, twenty twenty four, Buck, I'm

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Speaker 1: putting it on the roster so you can go look

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Speaker 1: it up. Everybody out there can look at twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: The Republican presidential nomination is going to come down to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump against DeSantis. I think that nobody else has

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Speaker 1: any chance of being the nominee. I think DeSantis is

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Speaker 1: gonna run. This is my opinion. This is not based

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Speaker 1: on anything that I've been told. Trump is gonna run,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be a heavyweight fight between

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Speaker 1: those two guys over who is the twenty twenty formational

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Speaker 1: noster domast. I'm putting it on the record right now,

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Speaker 1: and I think whoever is the nominee will win big.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a battle royale the likes

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Speaker 1: of which we haven't seen. When's the last real knockdown,

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Speaker 1: drag out Republican battle for the nomination. I mean Trump

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and there were with him, had some moments,

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Speaker 1: there were some there were some tough stuff. There are

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Speaker 1: only two guys, right, I think those are the only

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Speaker 1: two who can get Yeah. I don't think anybody right

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Speaker 1: now disagrees with that. Who's paying attention to the Republican

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Speaker 1: side of the ledger? But just bringing it back to

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Speaker 1: January sixth er for a second. The one question as

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Speaker 1: I was watching all this, Clay, because you're right, they're

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Speaker 1: making it all about Trump, what are we What do

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Speaker 1: they really want? Because this is not about a security review.

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Speaker 1: They keep saying it's to stop this from ever happening again,

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Speaker 1: there's really no discussion. There's really no analysis of well,

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Speaker 1: what were Capital Police doing when they were waiving people

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Speaker 1: in and what were the security breakdowns that occurred. They

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Speaker 1: didn't show Ashley Babbitt. They have very clear video of

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Speaker 1: it being shot in the neck through a door by

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Speaker 1: a Capital and killed by a Capital Police officer. So

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Speaker 1: they didn't They didn't touch on some of the clear

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Speaker 1: security issues. It was all meant to be very theatrical,

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Speaker 1: and so you come away from this, asking a very

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Speaker 1: straightforward question, what do they want people who weren't there,

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Speaker 1: who had nothing to do with it to do. What

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Speaker 1: do they really think we're going to We're going to

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Speaker 1: abandon the Republican Party because of this? I mean they

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Speaker 1: are they out of their minds? The answer unfortunately, yes,

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Speaker 1: they are out of their minds. Oh oh, it's just

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Speaker 1: that we can never vote for Trump again. No, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: They don't get to make that call for us. The

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Speaker 1: American people get to pass that judgment themselves in the

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Speaker 1: next election. There's no criminal case to be made against Trump.

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Speaker 1: They totally oversold the they'll be revelation. There's no revelations,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing new. It's not Trump. It's all Trump. That's

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Speaker 1: all it is, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump again, Which is

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Speaker 1: why I'm saying the Democrat Party really has no ideas

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Speaker 1: to your point, Buck. All they did was spend money.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even put in place any lasting programs. Right,

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Speaker 1: Build Back Better was about, Hey, let's have ten years

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Speaker 1: of spending trillions of dollars and then make it hard

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Speaker 1: for Republicans to vote against this in ten years when

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Speaker 1: it's coming, you know, when it's scheduled to end. They

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Speaker 1: didn't even get any of that implemented. They spent a

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Speaker 1: ton of money on infrastructure. Okay, it's a one time expense.

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Speaker 1: They gave way too much money for COVID recovery. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of actual lasting legacy, Joe Biden's accomplished almost

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Speaker 1: nothing in the first eighteen months. And all they can

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Speaker 1: do is the Trump rerun show. It's Trump Trump Trump,

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Speaker 1: our trial run of modern monetary theory courtesy of the

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Speaker 1: pandemic as excuse via Democrat spending. And there were Republicans

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Speaker 1: who initially went along with it in the early days,

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Speaker 1: and that was not the right move. But we knew

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Speaker 1: less about the virus then, but it didn't work out

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Speaker 1: well for us. Some of us were staying all along.

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Speaker 1: You know this is crazy, right, just paying people to

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Speaker 1: stay at home, and we were shouted down. You just

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Speaker 1: want grandma all this other stuff. The one good criticism

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Speaker 1: was you got called thanos, which I do think was

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Speaker 1: a funny criticism. Sometimes you got to snap your fingers

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Speaker 1: and see what happens. I mean, you're right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: continue to break all this down for you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: We've got some great guests, including I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Buck might have his girlfriends. Dad might be the biggest

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Speaker 1: badass that I mean. It's a it's a tough thing

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Speaker 1: to live up to, all right, Clay, we're really building

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Speaker 1: this up here, buddy. Okay, all right. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: of Sanity in an Insane World Clay Travis Sad buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show rolling through

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Speaker 1: the Friday edition of the program Hopeball of you are

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Speaker 1: having a good early start to your weekend hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us. We are joined now by the first guest

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Speaker 1: of the day. Jedediah Bilisi is the I guess you

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Speaker 1: get to describe yourself? Is this a self appellated nickname? Here?

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Speaker 1: Conservative Mama Bear, host of Jedediah Beel Alive Everywhere you

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Speaker 1: can go to get your podcasts? Can you can you

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Speaker 1: name yourself a Mama bear, Like, could I name myself

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Speaker 1: a Papa Bear if I wanted to? Jedediah, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a mama bear. First of all, I have to

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Speaker 1: say that's great music. I love a show that has

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Speaker 1: me dancing before I give commentary, so thank you for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely a mama bear. I mean with some of

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Speaker 1: the stories out now, I think Buck and I were

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Speaker 1: texting earlier this week and I was like, my Mama bear, Claude,

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Speaker 1: they're out so one. I think we can name ourselves that. No, Jedediah,

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Speaker 1: speaking of those stories, I do think that even in

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Speaker 1: an era where we're used to seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: just well, what feels to be indefensable stuff going on

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Speaker 1: from the progressive activist wing of the Democrat Party, the

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Speaker 1: drag show for kids phenomenon that you know now, I

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Speaker 1: believe the libs of TikTok account, which also shares all

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Speaker 1: over Facebook and other places, has been temporarily suspended merely

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Speaker 1: for showing how many different drag shows for kids were

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Speaker 1: advertising in recent days all over the country. What is

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Speaker 1: going on? What is going on? And we don't I

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Speaker 1: just there's a clear delineation, a clear separation. If adults

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Speaker 1: want to go to drection, that's fine. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: five year olds the same way that it's not okay

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Speaker 1: for five year olds to go to a burlesque show.

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Speaker 1: It would seem pretty straightforward that it's not okay for

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Speaker 1: them to go to a drag show. Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: So there's something deeply, deeply sick that's going on. The

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Speaker 1: show you're talking about, of course, was out of Dallas, Texas,

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Speaker 1: that Drag your Kids to Pride event, and I've gotten

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Speaker 1: since talking about that on my show, since, you know,

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Speaker 1: just seeing that unfold on social media, I've gotten several

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Speaker 1: emails from people that are showing me screenshots of events

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Speaker 1: like this happening in school where drag queens come to

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Speaker 1: the schools and help you put your makeup on. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of woke companies around the event

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Speaker 1: across the country, actually, not just in cities like New

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Speaker 1: York City and Los Angeles where those companies are having

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Speaker 1: drag queens, you know, do storytelling with kids, different types

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Speaker 1: of events like that. So there's two things going on here, right.

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Speaker 1: You have to separate it when you talk about like

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Speaker 1: a drag your kids to Pride event. You have the

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Speaker 1: one issue that you mentioned, which is that these are

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Speaker 1: just not appropriate events. Take the drag component apps. These

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Speaker 1: are not appropriate events for children if you've looked up

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Speaker 1: some of the signs that were displayed, even if parents

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Speaker 1: were well intentioned in going there, which I truly cannot

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Speaker 1: wrap my head around. But even if you were, you

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Speaker 1: walk in, you see the signs, you see prerogative dancing,

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Speaker 1: You pick up your child and you leave. You don't

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Speaker 1: take your kids to the local cigar bar. You don't say, hey,

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Speaker 1: five year old, you want to come hang out at

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Speaker 1: happy hour? We can talk some shots. This is not

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Speaker 1: normal behavior. The hyper sexualization of children and exposing children

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Speaker 1: to things that they shouldn't be exposed to, and making

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Speaker 1: them feel like they should be comfortable in those spaces

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Speaker 1: where they should not be comfortable because those are safest

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Speaker 1: for adults. That is deeply, deeply sick. So there's something

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Speaker 1: going on that's very wrong with parenting in general that

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Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. Now, if you'll pull the drag,

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Speaker 1: come honing back into it. Though, for these events for kids,

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Speaker 1: this woke culture. They don't just need you to accept

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Speaker 1: what's going on. They need you to indorse it so

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Speaker 1: heavily that they need kids to endorse it. They need

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Speaker 1: kids in those rooms, kids in school, kids in these

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Speaker 1: places just say, oh, you know what, this seems cool.

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Speaker 1: I want to do some drag. One of the drag

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Speaker 1: queens that was interviewed by Taylor Taylor was on the

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Speaker 1: ground over there, admitted to it, said oh yes, I

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Speaker 1: hope this will enable kids to do more dragged. More

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Speaker 1: kids will want to dress up, This will be their

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Speaker 1: way to build confidence. So I think this whole moment.

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Speaker 1: You know my issue again, I'm like you, Buck, I'm

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Speaker 1: like you are an adult. You want to go to

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Speaker 1: a drag show. You want to do that on your

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Where we live in a pre society, Go

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Speaker 1: do what you want to do. But why they need

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Speaker 1: to bring children into this and in every aspect of

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Speaker 1: life you see that folks on the left, they're coming

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Speaker 1: after kids. I don't care if it's a vaccine mandate.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. If it's all of this woke stuff

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Speaker 1: going on. I don't care. If it's indoctrination in school,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. It's hitting on off

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Speaker 1: fronts and I don't know what we're going to do

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Speaker 1: as parents, as grandparents, as aunts and uncle, because how

642
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: do you shield your kids? You just want your kids

643
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: to have a normal upbringing, to be a normal kid.

644
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Those kids in that room were not comfortable. Your kids

645
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: don't want to go to a draft show. They want

646
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Speaker 1: to play outside, they want to play with their friends.

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Speaker 1: You cannot tell me that those kids in that room

648
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: weren't looking around saying what am I doing here? And

649
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: that question needs to go to their parents. Jedediah, you moved.

650
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm correct because you have a young child

651
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: from New York down to Florida. I know Dave, Reuben,

652
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: Carol Marko, Wits people we've had on this show, they're

653
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: friends of the program, have made similar moves from other places.

654
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Speaker 1: We were talking earlier in the show that just on Monday,

655
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: two to four year olds are finally not going to

656
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: have to be wearing masks in New York City anymore.

657
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: That's now been over two years that that was required.

658
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: How much of your move had to do with being

659
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: a parent and just being fed up with what you

660
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: were seeing in New York City related to COVID And

661
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: are you convinced that this cod craziness, whether it's getting

662
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: your kid who's under five COVID shot when they've probably

663
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Speaker 1: already had COVID. Are you convinced that this is gone

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Speaker 1: or as a parent, are you like Buck and I,

665
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: I think convinced that Democrats are going to bring it

666
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: back whenever they can. Oh yeah, I mean well, first,

667
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: when we say there's a huge difference town here in Florida,

668
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Speaker 1: that was one of my motivating forces. I truly had

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Speaker 1: two motivating forces. One was I need to get my

670
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: kid out of this city. I want a free, thinking,

671
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: free child that doesn't have to wear a mask everywhere,

672
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't have to get a vaccine to walk into

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Speaker 1: a public space in a city. It was outrageous what

674
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: was going on. And I don't like the indoctrination that's

675
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Speaker 1: going on in New York City and Los Angeles in

676
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: places like that where if you disagree, you're relegated into

677
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: a corner of the room and made to feel like

678
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with you or you're a second class citizen.

679
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I was not having that for my child. Let me

680
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: tell everybody, Florida is very different. My kid has not

681
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: had a mask on a face, nor have I. By

682
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: the way. We've been in a bunch of places. He's

683
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: gone to play centers, he's interacted with other children, he

684
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: has had a normal experience for the first time in

685
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Speaker 1: his life since lean New York City and coming. And

686
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: it's not just Florida. You know, there's other other places

687
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: around the country you can go to. But I'm in

688
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Florida right now, and let's not celebrate New York. Everyone's like, oh,

689
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: New York lifting the masks. I'm not going to celebrate them.

690
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: How long did these kids suffer under what I can

691
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Speaker 1: only call child if you were an oun supposed to

692
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Speaker 1: a cat Adams on the back and tat New York

693
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Speaker 1: on the back for doing everyone a big favorite by saying, oh,

694
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: don't worry, You're two year old won't have to wear

695
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: a mask soon enough. What did my two year old

696
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: suffer as a result of all of those polarities? Though? Now,

697
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: I didn't mask my children, but some people didn't have

698
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: a choice. They had to put their kids into daycare centers,

699
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: they had to put their kids into places where those

700
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: masks were required. It's an absolute disgrace and those leaders

701
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: need to be held accountable now and far beyond because

702
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: some of these consequences on children. You know, I work

703
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: with children for years, whether their behavioral, whether they're medical,

704
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. They are going to unfold as

705
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: a result of these policies. For a third question involved

706
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: whether this is over. It's not over. This is going

707
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: to come back around again, and I promise people there

708
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: will be another pandemic. There will be another a large

709
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: bell that's wrong. I don't know if it's going to

710
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: be about COVID, but it will be about something else.

711
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: I need a joke on Twitter the other day. Oh,

712
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: maybe the next pandemic will roll around value and time

713
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Speaker 1: for the final re election campaign. Because without chaos and

714
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Speaker 1: without fear, they lose and they know it. So I

715
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Speaker 1: guarantee you they're trying to figure out what they can

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00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: do to adduce fear into society, to make people to

717
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Speaker 1: trust each other, can make people feel like government is

718
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Speaker 1: their ally and their means to get out of the mess,

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Speaker 1: To make people feel like they're dependent and relying instead

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Speaker 1: of self sufficient and full and healthy. I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: that is on the map. I don't know how it's

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Speaker 1: going to benefest, but I guarantee you it's coming, and

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Speaker 1: people need to be aware of this time because many

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Speaker 1: time around. Well, I can tell you a lion has

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Speaker 1: four to seven and never miss a minute of Clay

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Speaker 1: in Body while getting behind the scene access to special

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Speaker 1: content for members only. Welcome back everybody to Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: We love the movie Top Gun Maverick. As you will know,

761
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: we said, you know, we should get somebody who actually

762
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: know something. There was a whole heck of a lot

763
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Speaker 1: about flying. Joining us now is Joe Flatley. He was

764
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Speaker 1: a real life Top Gun fighter pilot instructor. He's a

765
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Speaker 1: third generation naval aviator, retired Navy FA eighteen Strike and

766
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Speaker 1: fighter pilot and F five adversary pilot. Joe, thanks for

767
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: calling into Clay and Buck. We appreciate it. Oh yeah,

768
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. Thanks. So what was you

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Speaker 1: actually were the guy or among the guys I should say,

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Speaker 1: training folks in Top Gun. What was some of the

771
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: best stuff that you saw in the movie? I mean

772
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: in terms of the flying, the way they depicted the program.

773
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: We just want to know what did you think. Yeah, well,

774
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: it was a good movie. It was a great, great

775
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: sequel to the first one, which came out when when

776
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: I was just going through advanced jet training, so just

777
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: about to finish up pilot training and getting ready to

778
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: go off to fly off eighteen. So yeah, it was

779
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: the first movie. It was great, and this was a

780
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: great sequel, and and the flying scenes in this I

781
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: thought were much better. Um, yes, it was kind of

782
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: hard to tell actually how much CGI was going on there.

783
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: Obviously some of the flying scenes well not obviously probably

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00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: to the lap person, but you know, airplanes. The proximity

785
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: they had in the movie, the airplanes to each other

786
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: they were fighting, probably not that realistic, but for cinemagraphic reasons,

787
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: that's that's the way you have to present it. But

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Speaker 1: still very very well done. I thought kind of gotten

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Speaker 1: hard to tell what the CGI was in there, except

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Speaker 1: maybe in a couple of instances. So if there was something,

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00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was. Joe. When nineteen eighty six, when

792
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the original Top Gun came on on, I believe the

793
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: overall naval recruiting for it went up like five hundred

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Speaker 1: percent for people who had forgotten what an unbelievable hit

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Speaker 1: that movie was back in nineteen eighty six. As a

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Speaker 1: guy who was training as a Top Gun pilot back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six, what was it like for that

798
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Speaker 1: movie to come out? And did everybody think you were

799
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Speaker 1: lying when you were out at the bars and you

800
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Speaker 1: would say, Hey, you know, I'm actually a Top Gun

801
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Speaker 1: fighter pilot, because I imagine that became a pretty popular

802
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: line for guys to be dropping all over the place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it gave us all sundry full

804
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: of ourselves about and after we weren't already but but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was the timing was good for a guy like me.

806
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: And then then and like you said, recruiting boom and

807
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: that lasted a while. And it's funny. After that, I

808
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: got to go to the premiere out in San Diego

809
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: and it was it was all Navy, some civilians. We're

810
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Speaker 1: out there, but basically they ran the premiere for the

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Speaker 1: Navy people that put it on. And one of the

812
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: discussions afterwards was was that this was probably gonna be

813
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Speaker 1: another boost for naval aviation, with the comment being that

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Speaker 1: you know, this war that we're we're now pretty much

815
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Speaker 1: out of the beginning or all through, actually fairly good

816
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Speaker 1: recruiting for special ops whether or you know, whichever service

817
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Speaker 1: it was um and that I don't know that naval

818
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Speaker 1: aviation has suffered, but but I think they're right for

819
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: another recruiting boom now with this movie which being of

820
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Speaker 1: Joe Flatly. He was a top gun fighter pilot instructor.

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Speaker 1: He retired after fourteen years active duty plus six years

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Speaker 1: reserved duty as a naval aviator. Tell everybody about about

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Speaker 1: your your dad. Jim Flatly, he was a Navy test

824
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Speaker 1: pilot Vietnam era fighter pilot with three hundred and fifty

825
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Speaker 1: combat missions. Yeah, well we a third generation, so my

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Speaker 1: you know, like you just said, my dad before me. Uh,

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Speaker 1: fighter pilot flue fans, mostly Vietnam, but prior to Vietnam,

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Speaker 1: he was a test pilot there protection River or a

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Speaker 1: Navy did all test work. And his ainctionum is Yeah,

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Speaker 1: famous moment was taking the C one thirty, which is

831
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Speaker 1: a big four engined cargo airplane. You can see it

832
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Speaker 1: on YouTube if you just google C one thirty carrier landing.

833
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: But that was his project, just a young guy right

834
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Speaker 1: out of test pilot school and they and they sent

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Speaker 1: him out to the ship and the C one thirty

836
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Speaker 1: never been done before. Everybody thought he was crazy for

837
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Speaker 1: doing it, got it done and uh and uh and

838
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Speaker 1: the three hundred and fifty combat missions, being the skipper

839
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Speaker 1: of a squadron that didn't lose a single airplane during Vietnam.

840
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Speaker 1: His tour as a skipper anyway, Um, he's not known

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Speaker 1: for that. He's known for the C one thirty things.

842
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: So it's uh, it's we get a laugh out of that.

843
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: Your grandfather also was a World War Two flying ace

844
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Speaker 1: in the South Pacific going up against the Japanese zero fighters.

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Speaker 1: How many first of all, how many third generation fighter

846
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: pilots are there? I mean, because the math on it

847
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work out where there could be very many in

848
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Speaker 1: the first place. And one of the things that I

849
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Speaker 1: found so fascinating was there's a scene I don't want

850
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: to spoil it for anybody, but in Top Gun Maverick

851
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Speaker 1: where the jet evolution is discussed in terms of the

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00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: technology and how much different it was between I think

853
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: the F fourteen and the F eighteen. For people who

854
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: are up in these planes, I'm curious how many of

855
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: these different aircraft you have flown in? Have you flown

856
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: in what your grandfather would have flown in, and what

857
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: your father would have flown in, and kind of discuss,

858
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: if you would, how much evolution there's been in the

859
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: fighter jets. Oh, the evolution has been tremendous. I mean,

860
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: if you just start working backwards from the F thirty five,

861
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: which is which is an unbelievable technology. I haven't been

862
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: in it. I haven't been in a simulator. I can't

863
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: even begin to discuss what exactly it is, and most

864
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: of that's probably classified anyway, but I will go tell

865
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: you that back in nineteen eighty seven, just as I

866
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: finished up my F eighteen train getting ready to go

867
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: off to my fleet squad and went to the McDonald

868
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: douglas plant there in Saint Louis some some specialized training

869
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: high speed at a radiation missile harm um that we

870
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: would use to target great our sites and McDonald douglas

871
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: put that on for us, and part of that they

872
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: took us on a tour of their facility there. And

873
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: this is talking to Technology eighty seven. They sat us

874
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: in the mock up of a cockpit. It was just

875
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: one big piece of glass and they said, yeah, this

876
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: is the future cockpit. It's all gonna be touchscreen, and

877
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: we're going touch screen. What's that? And that I believe

878
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: is pretty much the F thirty five cocktit now, so

879
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: that it has evolved quite a bit. But going back

880
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: to my granddad's day in the F four Wildcat and

881
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: the F six Hellcat and as other people flew the course,

882
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: airs very capable fighters for the time, but absolutely nothing

883
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: compared to what we have now. I mean they were shooting.

884
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: They were shooting bullets um basically where we're shooting missiles

885
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: now that are that are targeting beyond visual range, So

886
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: completely different technolog oology. Joe, what can you tell us

887
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: about the selection process into Top Gun. I mean, since

888
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: you were a Top Gun instructor, obviously you had a

889
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: number of people coming through in those classes. How does

890
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: want I mean for some of them, We've probably have

891
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: some people listening right now. By the way, we have

892
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: a huge military audience, both active and former military, current

893
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: former military, so we might have somebody who's you know,

894
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen listening goes, you know, I want to go

895
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: into a top gun program. How does that work? Well?

896
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: Just to clarify, was a Top Gun trained adversary pilot.

897
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: They run they run course and I don't know what

898
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: the latest is on timing wise, but back in my day,

899
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: it was a ten week course and then I went

900
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: through the first five weeks as an adversary pilot. Then

901
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: I was qualified to go out and teach as an

902
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: adversary on the adversary So adversary being we're the bad guys.

903
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: We go out and simulate enemy forces, whether Russian or

904
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: or whatever tactics. And we were right now, like Merlin

905
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: in the original movie, right, isn't that there? You go? Perfect? Yeah,

906
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: that was exactly. It's flying the F five, which which

907
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: was which the bad guys are flying in the first movie,

908
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: so which is still being flown as an adversary today.

909
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: But so that's what I did. But yeah, to get there,

910
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's the cream of the cross, the

911
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: top gun instructors themselves or next level. You know, probably

912
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: a terrible comparison, but it would be like you know,

913
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: a doctor specialist versus positions assistant the family practice, you know,

914
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: terrible comparison, but the top gun instructor versus an instructor

915
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: like myself. But to get there, you know, it's a selection.

916
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: You've got to do well. You've got to be um

917
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: basically recommended for that job, and then you got to

918
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: get through it. And that's a pretty arduous, arduous program

919
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: those guys go through just to teach the classes that

920
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: they teach from the Top Gun program. Joe Flatley, everybody,

921
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: mister mister Flatley, thank you very much, sir for calling

922
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: into Clay and Bok. We appreciate it. Hey, thanks for

923
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: having me exact that your beer. Thanks so much. Third

924
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Generation Fighter Pilot. That's pretty badass. Buck's badass as it gets. Yeah,

925
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's crazy to think about, right, Your grandfather

926
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: fought against the Japanese and the Pacific, and then all

927
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: the way up through the movies today and everything else.

928
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's your grandfather was in the Navy, but

929
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: he was on the USS Batan, so he was at

930
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: Late Gulf. Didn't talk about it very much until later on,

931
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: and then he would talked about it occasionally. Anyway, we

932
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: hope you all enjoyed the show today. I appreciate you

933
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: hanging with us. Play any fun weekend plans. You got

934
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: about five seconds the time going up to Knoxville, Tennessee

935
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: to watch the University of Tennessee play against Notre Dame

936
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: in the College World Series Superregional should be fun. Play.

937
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines.