Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast wants the Giants to go
Speaker 1: all the way. Welcome to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Kansas. I'm joined
Speaker 1: in the room that's filled with heroes, Mark Sesler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: Greg ros A Thalt. What is up always? Hey, Dan's
Speaker 1: calmed down with wanting the Giants to go off. We'll
Speaker 1: never forget two seasons ago, I almost correctly predicted the
Speaker 1: Giants and the Chargers to square off in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The Giants proceeded to go about three and thirteen with
Speaker 1: a human disaster known as Eli Manning Human Disaster. Well,
Speaker 1: it seems like a nice field mess. Uh. Yes, we
Speaker 1: all remember that Mark we have here. We are week
Speaker 1: five already in like what's seventy two plus twenty four
Speaker 1: ninety six hours or so, we will be on a
Speaker 1: plane to London. But right now our mind is strictly
Speaker 1: focused on the action ahead in week five. A little
Speaker 1: later tonight, you're gonna get rams at Seahawks recap from
Speaker 1: me and the sizzler um from handsas manner Um. I
Speaker 1: believe my friend Bob demanded, if we're going to use
Speaker 1: the throwback equipment for these late night hits that it
Speaker 1: has to be called the throwback podcast Studio. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was hard to twist your arm within the first
Speaker 1: minute of the show to get the name of your
Speaker 1: other podcast in. And then it will happen another seven
Speaker 1: or eight times on our separate Thursday night show as well. Well.
Speaker 1: People are asking, whatever happened to the Heat in the
Speaker 1: Light podcast? Where is your vanity project? We were split
Speaker 1: apart by fate my my partner a it works at
Speaker 1: a different company, and I mean that wasn't an NFL property.
Speaker 1: It was before he left it. But the actual the
Speaker 1: the the technology platform that we use to to do
Speaker 1: it melted down. It was a startup of sorts and
Speaker 1: it's stop starting up. So there went the show. But
Speaker 1: you got to overcome those things. I'm sure there was
Speaker 1: another startup that launched in its place. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: called Connor's Child. And like my two children becoming more,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't need, I don't need
Speaker 1: a second project in the third project. I feel perfectly
Speaker 1: happy with this one. More focus on this show. I
Speaker 1: like that, all right, So yes, you got that going on. Uh,
Speaker 1: but now we're going to focus on the rest of
Speaker 1: the week five matchups and again um okay, thirty two
Speaker 1: things doing those dames. I'm by those dames are previewed.
Speaker 1: Tuesday twenty eight, teams divide by two four teen teams
Speaker 1: to talk about games. Some bangers too good week about
Speaker 1: bangers and some laster ones. But like the same man,
Speaker 1: teams are concentrated in the same games. There as the
Speaker 1: bye weeks get there's more teams will by next week
Speaker 1: put the copins. They're on a bye so that's nice.
Speaker 1: That's good. So we're gonna do a draft as we
Speaker 1: do every week here, uh and Mark, we have gone
Speaker 1: around the horn and back to you now with the
Speaker 1: first overall pick. Don't Eric Fisher ittt Well, I was
Speaker 1: you know, I was lamb based I for picking Jaguars
Speaker 1: Broncos last week and it ended up being a fantastic game.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna continue used to use my human senses
Speaker 1: that completely ignore this mass think. I don't really care
Speaker 1: what you guys think about my pick. My number one
Speaker 1: pick is a showdown between two expansion teams from and
Speaker 1: I could not be more excited to watch this matchup
Speaker 1: between the Jaguars and the Carolina Panthers. Two quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: I've been interested in. Two very resilient teams. I love.
Speaker 1: Both of these clubs obviously lost their starting quarterbacks, and
Speaker 1: you could have easily written off the Jaguars. You could
Speaker 1: have written off the Panthers, who two weeks ago when
Speaker 1: they got knocked off by the Buccaneers. We were watching
Speaker 1: this at West's house. I thought the Panthers and their
Speaker 1: coaching staff were could put But two weeks later, three
Speaker 1: weeks later, they look good. And I cannot detached myself
Speaker 1: from the experience of Gardner Minshew, but not just him
Speaker 1: as the Jaguars quarterback, but really the way they won
Speaker 1: that game in Denver on the road. I don't care
Speaker 1: if the Broncos are oh and eight. That's a tough
Speaker 1: place to go, assuming people still fill the stadium. They
Speaker 1: were down seventeen to three, and the Broncos, in a
Speaker 1: game they were their season on the line, had set
Speaker 1: the table seventeen to three against the Jaguars, had them
Speaker 1: where they wanted him. The Jaguars were like over six
Speaker 1: on third downs to open the game. They were, they
Speaker 1: were five sacks on Gardner minshew is getting tossed and turned.
Speaker 1: They come out of halftime after a big Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: interception and absolutely ground the Broncos into dust. With Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette emerging from total a wall status. They tired out
Speaker 1: that defense on the road, and it's set up Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew's final drive, and he did some things on that
Speaker 1: on that drive and in other drives in that game
Speaker 1: that our next level. He showed up at number one
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jeremiah's rookie rankings so far. Dan, I know
Speaker 1: that's not an article article you will read, but it
Speaker 1: is an important article if you're tracking rookies. And I
Speaker 1: cannot want to say, well, how Carolina is defense in
Speaker 1: Carolina tries to deal with Gardner Minshew and if Leonard
Speaker 1: four net can play the way he's still playing, And
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball, you have an
Speaker 1: m VP candidate and Christian McCaffrey. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: to like in this game. I think I don't know
Speaker 1: how bad Jalen Ramsey's back injury here is, and I've
Speaker 1: been pretty quiet on the issue, but he's got a
Speaker 1: loose face here. If he's healthy, he's wanted. He's embraced
Speaker 1: by the organization. His teammates are coming through. They have
Speaker 1: played exciting games the last two weeks. They're winning. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: play football on a good team, come back and play football.
Speaker 1: Should be noted that part of that come back against
Speaker 1: the Jaguars last week by the Broncos was that Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey's replacement was getting roasted in that game and had
Speaker 1: a target on his back game and and yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: this is a real back injury for Jalen Ramsey. But
Speaker 1: I really like but I don't think it is. UM
Speaker 1: And I I really like Shad Khan coming out on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: uh the Jaguars own or telling the Associated Press that
Speaker 1: it's the best thing for the Jaguars to hold onto
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. I'm gonna read a little bit of his quote. Obviously,
Speaker 1: football is a team sport, and I'm sensitive to what
Speaker 1: individual inside or viewpoint or request there might be. But
Speaker 1: we have to do the right thing for the team.
Speaker 1: We value the value that Jalen adds to us, to
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I think we value him highly. And we'll
Speaker 1: see there is and we're gonna get to another player
Speaker 1: a little bit later in the show. Um on the
Speaker 1: vikings that is unhappy and looking to play his way
Speaker 1: or not play his way out of town. And I
Speaker 1: think if Jalen Ramsey is truly hurt, he's truly hurt.
Speaker 1: If he's not, it's a disgrace that he's not playing
Speaker 1: right now. And it's the word what kind of teammate
Speaker 1: would do this? It's way on my radar, way on
Speaker 1: my radar, and has been since day one. Every player
Speaker 1: on some level plays through injuries, so maybe it's something
Speaker 1: where you're not playing. Who knows. Even trying to guess
Speaker 1: like his level of injury when it comes to back
Speaker 1: is is tricky, But I think it was smart of shot.
Speaker 1: There's a report that from Jason lacinfora that they turned
Speaker 1: down two first round picks for Jalen Ramsey. So what's
Speaker 1: the harm? And if you're Sean Conner, what's the rush
Speaker 1: to the trade deadlines a month away? You're it's only
Speaker 1: in in a world where this is still a problem
Speaker 1: three weeks from now. You know the trade offers are
Speaker 1: only going to get better and you don't have to
Speaker 1: take them, but you can listen. I mean, if they
Speaker 1: start getting really wild, maybe it becomes a Laramie tons
Speaker 1: of situation where you have to take it, but they
Speaker 1: need him this week because they're playing another good second
Speaker 1: year quarterback. It came out of nowhere. Kyle Allen passes
Speaker 1: the eye test. I think him and Gardner Minshew passed
Speaker 1: the eye test. I think if they played their first
Speaker 1: two games. You know, Kyle Allen's a second year player,
Speaker 1: but if you know if Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: played like this for their first two games a year ago,
Speaker 1: everyone would be going crazy. Kyle Allen, really, I think
Speaker 1: has the tools and can make every throw, and he's
Speaker 1: shown that he's had a fumbling problem that that needs
Speaker 1: to be fixed. But I look at him and he
Speaker 1: looks legit. It doesn't seem like a fluke. One of
Speaker 1: those fumbles came off at g. J. Watt getting pushed
Speaker 1: away from Kyle Allen, puts the arm out and does
Speaker 1: something only J. J. Walt can do in almost any
Speaker 1: quarterback would have lost the ball in that situation, but
Speaker 1: that's the Minshew has also been extremely safe with the
Speaker 1: football in it for Jaguars team. I mean, it's been
Speaker 1: invaluable with while throwing in a few nice deep throws.
Speaker 1: But this is the toughest game for him on the
Speaker 1: slate so far. Their fourth in the league in d
Speaker 1: v O A past defense or something in that Carolina
Speaker 1: sauce with between Buffalo and the Panthers, with that scheme
Speaker 1: that they have, that they're better as a group than
Speaker 1: they really are individually. Shack Thompson, their linebackers playing out
Speaker 1: of his mind right now. Rivera's big move to suddenly
Speaker 1: go to A three four after seven years is looking great.
Speaker 1: They lose Kwan short for the year and they're still
Speaker 1: playing fantastic. Vera will be coaching their seventies six years
Speaker 1: from now. As an extremely old, big, big test for
Speaker 1: Carolina secondary against DJ Chark, who has made the leap
Speaker 1: and it's starting to give off Jordy Nelson vibes as
Speaker 1: a boundary boundary receiver. Uh, let us move on. A
Speaker 1: battle of windless teams in Cincinnati the Arizona CarH I
Speaker 1: got caught up in the old style. But you know
Speaker 1: what you reminded of us? How much how much better
Speaker 1: this new style is. That's good. You should just should
Speaker 1: just draft the Cardinals, Bengals. Who's who's next in the draft? Okay,
Speaker 1: take the Recals, Cardinals. Okay, I'm not gonna I will
Speaker 1: take the Buccaneers. See it a sucker suit for Greg
Speaker 1: rosehal today by the way, heading to New Orleans. We
Speaker 1: not have that conversation right now. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: sear sucker see a initially, but it looks like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue the point anymore. UM had
Speaker 1: a German roommate when I lived in Hollywood ten years
Speaker 1: ago that was auditioning for a role. He was an
Speaker 1: aspiring actor and he was told by his manager, you
Speaker 1: need to work on your American accent. And uh, He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, because it was very thick his German accent.
Speaker 1: So he would go into his room for hours at
Speaker 1: a time working on his accent, and Um, the day
Speaker 1: before his big audition, he comes out of the room
Speaker 1: after hours of studying and Uh, We're like you ready
Speaker 1: for this and he's like yeah. He's like, uh, you
Speaker 1: want to run the lines that you're gonna have to read?
Speaker 1: And uh he's like okay, okay. And then the first
Speaker 1: thing out of his mouth was yes, I'm here wearing
Speaker 1: my seious socker suit. And we're like, oh that is
Speaker 1: that does sound He sounds like a Midwestern man, So
Speaker 1: we tried to let up. He told me he was great,
Speaker 1: get a very nice guy. I liked him. He did
Speaker 1: not get the role. That's the that's the Hollywood wade
Speaker 1: people telling you that they're great, You're great, And I
Speaker 1: don't know why that's the way. Why is he precluding
Speaker 1: until you're like like a ten out of ten mail looks?
Speaker 1: Why are you getting that role? He was? He was
Speaker 1: a very good looking guy and he was the role.
Speaker 1: Is this a man who walked around telling people about
Speaker 1: his suit? The point was we could have been honest,
Speaker 1: but like, that's terrible, but there was nothing he was
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do. He was going to go
Speaker 1: to at that point in the morning. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: want to he was gonna build him up, bail on
Speaker 1: the audition, and then go back to journey, which is
Speaker 1: what eventually hard lessons in Hollywood. All right, Well, Gregg's
Speaker 1: wearing a Sierra soccer suit. You know, speaking of overseas,
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are going to be headed to London next
Speaker 1: week with us and we're gonna be watching the Battle
Speaker 1: of First Place. After Kyle Allen, you know, ends minshu
Speaker 1: Mania and after Jamis Winston goes to New Orleans, UH
Speaker 1: and gets a nice little road upset in a game
Speaker 1: where I don't think either team is gonna be able
Speaker 1: to run the ball very much. The Buccaneers have the
Speaker 1: best run defense in the league right now, two point
Speaker 1: nine yards for time. You can just see it when
Speaker 1: when you see their front line, they're gonna be tough
Speaker 1: to run against. Which passing game do you trust more?
Speaker 1: It's weird to trust Jamis Winston, but I'm taking the
Speaker 1: guy with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans both on pace
Speaker 1: for over four hundred and fifty yards right now, and
Speaker 1: I'm not trusting Saints offense that has been under three
Speaker 1: hundred yards three straight weeks. You can't keep winning games
Speaker 1: like that. I like the Bucks. I rewatched the Saints
Speaker 1: Cowboys and had a really appreciation for how good the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense was and how Bridgewater through better than I expected.
Speaker 1: He threw pretty well, his ball placement was good, and
Speaker 1: it's tough to win in New Orleans. I've picked against
Speaker 1: him two weeks in a row, and I'm not the
Speaker 1: one of the third week. I wrote Upset Special at
Speaker 1: the top of this because after watching the Bucks against
Speaker 1: the Rams and it wasn't perfect, I thought Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: produced one of the better wide receiver showings of the
Speaker 1: entire year. I think he can do everything, and Bruce
Speaker 1: arians talked him up in Fantasy heads went nuts over him,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the time is when it's actually
Speaker 1: it played out against the Rams entirely the Saints front
Speaker 1: seven is their line is so nasty. I don't think
Speaker 1: that you even try to run. The Bucks remind me
Speaker 1: a little bit of when we talk about like an
Speaker 1: air raid type attack. They were doing some of that
Speaker 1: against l A, like to the point where I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I'm not gonna call the Cardinals air raid
Speaker 1: over what the Bucks do when they go all out
Speaker 1: with their passing game and they've got better weapons than
Speaker 1: almost any team in the league. When you want to
Speaker 1: go wide receiver wide and when when they need a run,
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones looking pretty good. You know he's making he's
Speaker 1: making people miss. Yeah, played the two thousand seventeen Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and last week's game. Do you
Speaker 1: guys think about Teddy Bridgewater so far? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he was I think he was better last week.
Speaker 1: But here's the reality. Yes, he he did his job.
Speaker 1: He's a really good back. He's a really good backup. Quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has the same feel for the
Speaker 1: position that he had when he was in Minnesota. To me,
Speaker 1: that was his best quality. Um kind of is inn eate.
Speaker 1: Nowhere to go with the ball, feel in the pocket,
Speaker 1: feel a pressure around him. He doesn't have that right now,
Speaker 1: like a like a late career Alex Smith at his
Speaker 1: best and I and I don't think that he has
Speaker 1: that right now. I mean every quarterback sacrificing something in
Speaker 1: some way, and he's sacrificing scrambling ability and trying to
Speaker 1: make plays. If you see the quotes he's given, you
Speaker 1: know they're onegrees different than than what he was saying
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. He's saying, now I've learned that I can't scramble,
Speaker 1: I can't try to make plays. I just have to
Speaker 1: take what the defense gives me. And he's playing with
Speaker 1: he just I think he's still getting used to who
Speaker 1: he is now. They were They had one play over
Speaker 1: ten yards that wasn't to Michael Thomas, and that was
Speaker 1: a screen pass. Right. I feel like Michael Thomas like
Speaker 1: his value decreases in a Teddy Bridgewater offense compared to
Speaker 1: when Breeze is in there. Just maybe it's a chemistry thing,
Speaker 1: but it's Alvin Kamara catching fifteen or fifteen targets a
Speaker 1: game in the screen game and I and I just
Speaker 1: don't want to go against Jack Barrett right now because
Speaker 1: what he's doing, maybe it's just it's gonna end. Like
Speaker 1: Mark said, he's definitely to get to ten sex, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a good year. But the three game run
Speaker 1: he's had to follow up a three SAT game and
Speaker 1: then a four SAT game and maybe have your best
Speaker 1: game after that where you forced three turnovers in a
Speaker 1: win is just outrageous. What he's doing right now, and
Speaker 1: what what box scores don't show you. He's doing things
Speaker 1: like Brandon Cooks is wide open and Jared Golf misses
Speaker 1: him by three feet because Shaq Barrett forces him into
Speaker 1: a bad throw. These are the things that Shack Barrett's
Speaker 1: doing every week. The big question for me for the
Speaker 1: Bucks is the protection was so good last week out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, and you almost never see Jamis Winston a
Speaker 1: protection like that. When he has protection like that, he's
Speaker 1: like a nineteen seventies style Darryl Lamonica back there and
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch, and that just never happens and
Speaker 1: If that starts happening with more regularity, then Bruce arians
Speaker 1: is gonna be flying. He's gonna be loving his job.
Speaker 1: It's in a very interesting offense, especially if they get
Speaker 1: help from the running game, which they have been. They
Speaker 1: enter this game right tenth tenth in the League of offense,
Speaker 1: uh fifth and path sing And we talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit last week. Chris Godwin has stepped up. He
Speaker 1: is a legit potential star for them. We know with
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, and if this Winston thinks sticks, they could
Speaker 1: be a top ten offense this year. It could have
Speaker 1: happened what they could happen parts. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you don't move Peyton Barbered to a much lower role
Speaker 1: if Ronald Jones is playing the way he is. But
Speaker 1: that's been going on week after week, and I'm a
Speaker 1: little rivalry here. Bucks have gotten the better of Sean
Speaker 1: Payton randomly over the years, but that does not mean
Speaker 1: anything with a new coach. This is the perfect Winston
Speaker 1: come down game. Though. This is the three interception pick
Speaker 1: six come down game in the past, so was the
Speaker 1: Rams game, not that he was up before that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's put together a couple of games and another
Speaker 1: pass have been picked. Yeah, he's gonna give them, He's
Speaker 1: gonna makena together. Yeah, he'll always be a bit of
Speaker 1: a bit of a high wire act. But can he
Speaker 1: give put together three really good games in a row
Speaker 1: this early in the season. There's a lot of reason
Speaker 1: to do it for sky Sports? All right, Yes, do
Speaker 1: it for sky Sports. That's the rallying cry that Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay will just saying. Panthers Bucks game looked like it
Speaker 1: might have been a dog. It might be two three
Speaker 1: and two teams all right with a third overall pick. Um.
Speaker 1: Not too many late games today, huh this week? Not
Speaker 1: too many. Better take one off the board here and
Speaker 1: I'll grab a good one. Packers at Cowboys wasn't getting
Speaker 1: to me, never would be. And um, yeah, there's no way, Uh,
Speaker 1: you can't look at this game and get excited about
Speaker 1: it because the Cowboys are coming off a bit of
Speaker 1: a humbling Sunday night loss. But nothing to get two
Speaker 1: worked up about. I think I think they went into
Speaker 1: a very difficult environment on the road in primetime against
Speaker 1: the New Orleans defense that is very good, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you get beat and that's what happened to this game.
Speaker 1: So I still believe in the ceiling of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense and their abilities, and now they get a Packers
Speaker 1: defense that, like the Cowboys last week a little bit
Speaker 1: of a humbling performance, with the Eagles able to do
Speaker 1: some things against them that we hadn't seen that against
Speaker 1: the Packers yet. Um. So, now you have two teams
Speaker 1: coming off disappointing losses that I think are near the
Speaker 1: top of their conference. UH in what should be a
Speaker 1: very good close game. I'm having a hard time figuring
Speaker 1: out how the Packers score points in this one. As
Speaker 1: well as the Cowboys played defense last week, and as
Speaker 1: well as Robert Quinn is playing adoring adding a new
Speaker 1: element to their defense that wasn't there last year, and
Speaker 1: Davante Adams isn't practicing. It's not a good injury either
Speaker 1: to turf toe is something that can linger for weeks.
Speaker 1: Where are the playmakers on the Packers offense outside of
Speaker 1: the quarterback, I'd be I'd be very worried. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily see that this UH is gonna be a close
Speaker 1: game because because of that UH, and because I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have more answers. It's the best play in
Speaker 1: the Packers offense is Aaron Rodgers improvising and you might
Speaker 1: not have Jamal Williams either, which is I think a sneaky,
Speaker 1: you know, big factor just because they'd like to run
Speaker 1: the ball. And now you're just down to Aaron Joe.
Speaker 1: If there was life to green Bay in that Eagles
Speaker 1: game early and they got up thirteen and seven, they
Speaker 1: were up tending nothing, it was big plays to Davante Adam.
Speaker 1: So if he's out, I mean, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: is it? Geronimo Allison, we're counting on to do that.
Speaker 1: For Dallas, I like, I don't worry about the Saints
Speaker 1: game because I think that that defense is going to
Speaker 1: do that two teams multiple times, that Saints defense this year.
Speaker 1: But Dallas obviously mopped up the Redskins and Dolphins. They
Speaker 1: and and they beat the Giant. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of excitement around what was going on. This is a
Speaker 1: good test Saints into green Bay. I don't think green
Speaker 1: Bay's defense. Eagles got a little frisky on the ground
Speaker 1: against green Bay's defense late in the last game. But
Speaker 1: to me, Dallas, I am not panicking over the Saints
Speaker 1: loss at all. I still think what Kellen Moore is
Speaker 1: doing is great for so many players in that offense.
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott, though, you know, this is not running around
Speaker 1: him and circling around him the way it did in
Speaker 1: past years. He had thirty four yards. It was they
Speaker 1: faced their first the defense that wasn't a bottom five defense,
Speaker 1: and they had, you know, a d D performance a
Speaker 1: couple of it his fumbles. But I didn't like what
Speaker 1: I sawt of Kellen Moore running so much and insisting
Speaker 1: too on early downs. There wasn't a lot of play action.
Speaker 1: You didn't see some of the same creativity. And they
Speaker 1: won't be without Tyranne Smith in this game very likely.
Speaker 1: And Lyle Collins, who's having in all pro type of
Speaker 1: season at right tackle, is expected to play but hasn't
Speaker 1: practiced at all yet this week. So that's two guys
Speaker 1: are one one left tackle you're missing, the other one's hurt,
Speaker 1: and you're going up against a very good front. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that was just a one game blip
Speaker 1: for the Packers defense. I think they just kind of
Speaker 1: face the game plan that had their number go ahead.
Speaker 1: I would say if Kellen Moore watches, you know, the
Speaker 1: Eagles game, he's gonna see Okay. I gotta get the
Speaker 1: ball into Zeke and Pollard's hands as receivers more often
Speaker 1: because the Packers they have bad middle linebacker play when
Speaker 1: it comes to the passing game. And you saw that
Speaker 1: with guys like Jordan Howard, one of the worst receiving
Speaker 1: backs in the league, they had no answer for him
Speaker 1: in the passing game. Zeke has been underutilized in the
Speaker 1: passing game. I don't think he's gonna watch the eagle scheme.
Speaker 1: My guests would be that he'd probably just say, you know,
Speaker 1: we're good operations. We're fine, Mike, Mike, get your boy
Speaker 1: Michael Gallo back this week to a little earlier than expected.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like a good accommodation. Zeke, who has
Speaker 1: the NFL record for most rushing yards per game against
Speaker 1: an individual team, against the Packers is average a hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three yards. Packers run defense is giving up
Speaker 1: five yards a carry right now. Um, yeah, I eat
Speaker 1: up last week, Like you know, I gotta say, I'm
Speaker 1: off to almost historic ohen four start with wes um
Speaker 1: our friend, um who runs these matters. Let us know
Speaker 1: that Mark, you went oh and five to start a
Speaker 1: season a couple of years ago. And you came back.
Speaker 1: I'll let you. I'll say it always before you do.
Speaker 1: You came back, and I believe one that year. I think,
Speaker 1: oh and five, it's in the NFL. Oh and five,
Speaker 1: you're cooked in lock battle. Oh and five. So I
Speaker 1: gotta get I gotta get going. And I was was
Speaker 1: leaning towards picking a winless team um as my lock,
Speaker 1: which is just shows how lost in the woods I
Speaker 1: am right now. But what I'm gonna do at they're
Speaker 1: all this great conversation we just had. I'm gonna lock
Speaker 1: up the cowboys at home and have them take me
Speaker 1: back into contention. Let's go, Zeke, I want to buck
Speaker 1: and you know what, to West's point, give me sixty
Speaker 1: seven yards in a touch through the air one of
Speaker 1: those monster Z games, and the cowboys roll. You know what.
Speaker 1: Let's tell men, Louise this thing, bash it out, bro,
Speaker 1: let's do it, Bom. I need to get off the
Speaker 1: schnide and this whole let's go. It's in my head too.
Speaker 1: I'm changing up my routines every week. Now. I have
Speaker 1: no idea what's going on. Let's go. I don't have
Speaker 1: a good feeling for you guys at all I had
Speaker 1: I had this as a blood too. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I didn't think of it. I didn't even need
Speaker 1: to think about these Aaron Rodgers to enemy territory. All right,
Speaker 1: Here we go up next Chris Westling and that Hey, Ricky,
Speaker 1: did you get that snake drop we talked about? Yeah
Speaker 1: you did? Ready? Oh she didn't know. I'm about to
Speaker 1: hit it right now. You should do it after my
Speaker 1: first game and before my stad game. That's when, Okay,
Speaker 1: it just points me and I'll hit it. Didn't she
Speaker 1: didn't even think about it for one. Yeah, it's right here.
Speaker 1: I have five different versions. I have my suspicions about
Speaker 1: what's happening here, but I won't say anything until it occurs.
Speaker 1: Wes you. For my first game, I am choosing the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens at the Pittsburgh Steelers. Nice choice, nice, nice value,
Speaker 1: grass field, Midwest. It's all my qualification, the only qualification.
Speaker 1: I mean, they do not consider themselves part of the Midwest.
Speaker 1: But that's we'll give it to you. But it's in
Speaker 1: the western part of Pennsylvania. Alright, what about what about
Speaker 1: the game? Well, I I hesitated to say much about
Speaker 1: this because, um, he's a legend and I wanted him
Speaker 1: to go to the Hall of Fame. But Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: is slow now, and I hope he's playing through an injury,
Speaker 1: but he is one of the slowest safeties in the
Speaker 1: league now. He did break his leg last year, right,
Speaker 1: that's how the season ended. Maybe he's still getting back.
Speaker 1: But um, the Ravens are one of the worst defenses
Speaker 1: in the league at yards after catch, and it's because
Speaker 1: their safety play isn't very good and their inside linebacker
Speaker 1: play isn't very good. I had to triple check myself
Speaker 1: because it is Earl Thomas. But when you see him
Speaker 1: lose the angle a couple of times when he should
Speaker 1: have the angle against the Browns, go back and watch
Speaker 1: Week three against Darryl Williams, who, in my notes I
Speaker 1: have written down is one of the slowest running backs
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Earl Thomas lost the angle on him
Speaker 1: and was out run by Darryl Williams. I think, if
Speaker 1: I'm a Ravens fan, I have a hard time watching
Speaker 1: this djens right now. Not not only that, but when
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is saying this week, a lot of our
Speaker 1: problems is about guys not carrying out assignments, I think
Speaker 1: he's talking about Tony Jefferson and Earl Thomas, two safeties
Speaker 1: who have made a great career. Jefferson is obviously nowhere
Speaker 1: in Earl Thomas's class. Great careers out of big plays
Speaker 1: by using their instincts. And I think they're both liable
Speaker 1: to free ants a little bit. And they're both slower
Speaker 1: than they used to be. There was a line which
Speaker 1: would trouble me if I'm a Ravens fan. Uh in
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Sun this week that said, or in one
Speaker 1: of the Seattle papers this week rather that said, Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas can still run very fast in a straight line,
Speaker 1: but turning around uh and making cuts like it's pretty
Speaker 1: slow doing it, Well, that's kind of problematic in the
Speaker 1: game of football. I beg to differ that you can
Speaker 1: still run very fast in a straight line. I just
Speaker 1: I don't see it um. And I think they have
Speaker 1: had miscommunications. Who was calling the defense the last few years,
Speaker 1: Eric Weddle, he's gone. Earl Thomas comes in to call
Speaker 1: the defense and he hasn't been there. That said, are
Speaker 1: the Steelers? I feel like the Ravens might be an
Speaker 1: offense first team now, But are there de dealers built
Speaker 1: to win a game that you score a lot of
Speaker 1: points in. To me, they're coaching around right now their
Speaker 1: quarterback and how many weeks in a row can you
Speaker 1: do that? The Ravens wrote the book on that last
Speaker 1: year year in terms of not requiring a ton of
Speaker 1: throws to the outside, but they're at far advanced than
Speaker 1: that this year, and I would take them in a
Speaker 1: shootout type of scenario. The I would say one thing
Speaker 1: that coming out of that Ravens Browns game, watching it
Speaker 1: a second time, I think we learned more about the
Speaker 1: Ravens than the Browns, and more about Baltimore's defense. They
Speaker 1: were schemed well against with pulling guards and centers and
Speaker 1: the big plays. And you guys mentioned that, you know,
Speaker 1: it was all big plays for the Browns. I thought
Speaker 1: that came though, by Cleveland beating them up over and
Speaker 1: over to create the big plays. For sudden, You've got
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas chasing Nick Chubb down the field. And when
Speaker 1: I looked at Baltimore's offense, they got in Lamar Jackson's head.
Speaker 1: They got to Lamar Jackson. And if the Steelers can
Speaker 1: do that with one of the best pass rushes in
Speaker 1: the league, Lamar Jackson at thirty four yards at halftime
Speaker 1: in that game, they were not I thought he played
Speaker 1: pretty well up with good numbers, but a lot of
Speaker 1: that came with with them down by a pile of points.
Speaker 1: I got blitzed and he didn't have many answers for it.
Speaker 1: This is a for Lamar Jackson because yes, he looked
Speaker 1: like the new Mahomes the first two weeks against some
Speaker 1: of the word teams in football. Last two weeks has
Speaker 1: come down there field. He's come down to earth a
Speaker 1: little bit, greg I do, but I think he played
Speaker 1: just as well last week ause he did Week two
Speaker 1: against Arizona. Didn't there He just felt like he wasn't
Speaker 1: the most important part of that. They were. They were
Speaker 1: winning up. Their defense was terrible. If they have to
Speaker 1: score thirty points a week, they're not built for that.
Speaker 1: Like this is a problem for the Ravens away there built.
Speaker 1: They thought they needed to be like a top twelve offense,
Speaker 1: top fifteen and have their defense carried them. They can't
Speaker 1: expect them to score thirty points a week. I thought
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense played well too, and I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking that Lamar Jackson's going going to score thirty
Speaker 1: every week. I think teams are gonna start watching what
Speaker 1: what say the Browns did against him? The one good
Speaker 1: thing is they have great tackle play the Ravens maybe
Speaker 1: the best tackle duo in the league that can help
Speaker 1: shut down T J. Watt. But the Steelers get a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure up the middle too. All right, it's
Speaker 1: time to snake. Oh gross, I know, I was in
Speaker 1: our library so weird. I thought that was Dan. It
Speaker 1: sounded like it. Can you do it again with the
Speaker 1: camera on you? Um no, the camera's broken back here,
Speaker 1: I see it right now. No it's broken. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's function at the full screen. Go ahead. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: let me just hit this real quick. She didn't prepare, prepare,
Speaker 1: She just she didn't make a note of it. And
Speaker 1: I will say, she's so busy now with all our
Speaker 1: other programming. You know their fantasy lineup is set? Yeah
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, I mean, you have you do
Speaker 1: inadequate snake sound tweeting the show right now so your
Speaker 1: fans can listen. I'm doing three thousand things at once,
Speaker 1: and I downloaded a really cool snake drop. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: you don't like it. That's not my problem. Feuds of
Speaker 1: Adam Rank on Twitter. You got all that lockdown? I
Speaker 1: want my snake dropped on. That's the one that we
Speaker 1: had in our sound All right, West, you're he'll be
Speaker 1: working at it at m VP's wedding this week or
Speaker 1: perhaps in Lisbon. Happy she doesn't get wrapped up at
Speaker 1: Emma was happy enough. How do I fit two weeks
Speaker 1: of luggage and a carry on? She tweets last night
Speaker 1: at some point, so you know, different concerns than some.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the other four o'clock game since there
Speaker 1: are only two of them. Smart West, you know how
Speaker 1: to play the game? Isn't know how to play? Or
Speaker 1: I was thinking, why picked the four o'clock game? Now
Speaker 1: I can just watch whatever I want at four o'clock. Whatever.
Speaker 1: You have different priorities than me. I like to be
Speaker 1: able to pay attention to my game so I can
Speaker 1: give people what I saw on the recap show Bell
Speaker 1: watching four shows. I'm gonna watch the same game that
Speaker 1: I wanted at four o'clock, whether I choose it or not.
Speaker 1: Like Sundays, a work day for me, not an enjoyment day.
Speaker 1: I'm putting, I'm punching the clock, coming in and watching
Speaker 1: football so I can give the people with it on
Speaker 1: the hard hat. I mean, you know, flock a field
Speaker 1: of strawman being raised up. Punching the clock a good
Speaker 1: way to put it. West, You're punching the clock. Absolutely
Speaker 1: blue collar worker. I know, a punch in the clock.
Speaker 1: Meet you punch in, and then after twelve hours and
Speaker 1: probably sixty hours and overtime, you punch out. You go.
Speaker 1: I mean your figure family, Creig, that's what a blue
Speaker 1: collar worker does. Your punch's hands. That's right. I'm popping
Speaker 1: in a couple of hours early. People should tune into
Speaker 1: game debut live at UH. He turned into a plug
Speaker 1: eleven thirties through is so ultra tree. I want to
Speaker 1: watch um a guy who is now rivaling Alvin Camara
Speaker 1: is the best receiving back in the NFL, Austin Ekeler
Speaker 1: in this game, he is so good. And we get
Speaker 1: a little Melvin Gordon this week too. But I want
Speaker 1: to watch that, and I want to watch for how
Speaker 1: many people cannot resist talking about Joe Flacco in the
Speaker 1: twelfth raded Broncos offense when they should be talking about
Speaker 1: the seventh raded defense that could not get off the
Speaker 1: field for eleven minutes against Gardner and Shoe on one drive.
Speaker 1: The defense is the problem in Denver. These two these
Speaker 1: teams are similar. The Chargers defense is stunk. The Broncos
Speaker 1: defense has stunk. The Chargers defense. No one's noticed because
Speaker 1: they've played terrible teams a lot of times. Your defensive
Speaker 1: rankings are basically just the ranking of who have you've played,
Speaker 1: And I think that's the case with the Chargers. So
Speaker 1: I think the Broncos can move the ball up and
Speaker 1: down the field in this game, that there might be
Speaker 1: this might be some a decent amount of scoring. Problem
Speaker 1: is they kick a lot of field goals when they
Speaker 1: need to score six downs. That it is a problem.
Speaker 1: And no Melvin Ingram, I believe who's out like a
Speaker 1: month from the Chargers. They are starting people. There's a
Speaker 1: guy starting at safety and undrafted free agent named hold
Speaker 1: On Roderick teamer now starting from the Los Angeles just
Speaker 1: in the Chargers defense. They've had a ton of injuries,
Speaker 1: especially on defense, and that's that's part of the reason
Speaker 1: they've they've struggled. But I don't I don't look at
Speaker 1: them as a team that has any gimmes if they're
Speaker 1: If Chargers fans are kind of looking at this and
Speaker 1: just checking it off. I know they're big favorites. There
Speaker 1: are two they're one of the worst two and two
Speaker 1: teams just in terms of how they've played so far.
Speaker 1: I would hate I'd hate to be I don't want
Speaker 1: to play an OH and four team at this point
Speaker 1: in the season no matter what. And let like the
Speaker 1: Broncos are different to me a little bit then that
Speaker 1: I know everyone is like, this is the new Dolphins. Oh,
Speaker 1: the redskins of the new Dolphins. Oh the Broncos. They're
Speaker 1: they're tanking, not well, they're not like they're just a
Speaker 1: bad football team. Right now that that's incomplete, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't love the matchup for Los Angeles at all
Speaker 1: at all, but I would look at someone like Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: who is playing awesome right now. Austin Ekeler has been awesome,
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen has been awesome. They've not gotten the pass rush,
Speaker 1: but they still have like their key star players playing
Speaker 1: very well. And if you can't take they should have
Speaker 1: beaten the Lions, they'd be three and one and we'd
Speaker 1: feel a little bit differently about them. They have been
Speaker 1: uninspiring and there have been people tweeting us, why don't
Speaker 1: you guys talk about the Chargers. We've talked about them
Speaker 1: plenty in the past. They just have seemed a little
Speaker 1: off the radar this time and they need that signature
Speaker 1: and they get for all the jokes we've made about it.
Speaker 1: They just need offensive weapons, and he adds one. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: probably will you know, have to take Austin Ekeler off
Speaker 1: the field, which is a problem. Eckler's fifth in the
Speaker 1: league in yards. But even he can they can use them.
Speaker 1: They can use them together. And even if Gordon is
Speaker 1: playing thirty snaps and Ekeler is playing thirty five or forty,
Speaker 1: and I think that might be the type of split
Speaker 1: we see that still adds juice to an offense that
Speaker 1: has been really good and adding another weapon. They they
Speaker 1: need to be an offense first team. That's that's the
Speaker 1: biggest challenge right now for the Chargers in terms of
Speaker 1: their offensive philosophies. Eckler has become one of the best
Speaker 1: all around running backs in football. It wouldn't be right,
Speaker 1: like Mark you're saying, it would't be right to remove
Speaker 1: him from the game plan. But Gordon before he disappeared,
Speaker 1: when he's been right he's been at a similar level
Speaker 1: in terms of productivity. So you just got to find
Speaker 1: a way to balance that or is there a possibility
Speaker 1: and let me know if it doesn't make sense for
Speaker 1: whatever reason contractually, Uh, maybe you move Melvin Gordon before
Speaker 1: the deadline in three weeks? Why not? Just what did
Speaker 1: he have you? I don't you gotta give him a contract?
Speaker 1: But why why I not just do what you did
Speaker 1: last year? And before Melvin Gordon got hurt, they were
Speaker 1: averaging two hundred yards a game between the two of them.
Speaker 1: They were the best duo in the NFL, and he
Speaker 1: was using them correctly. We don't know we're gonna get
Speaker 1: out of Melvin Gordon right away. Un right hand, Henry's
Speaker 1: back on the field, but he's not returning yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have some they've had so many injuries, like they
Speaker 1: can't I feel like they can't trade away any talent.
Speaker 1: Then that then Eckler get hurt and suddenly you know
Speaker 1: starting trying. I suppose, yes, they they are great one
Speaker 1: to tandem, but Eckler had had been able to prove
Speaker 1: that he can do it as the lead guy. And
Speaker 1: that's I guess that's just part of team sports. So
Speaker 1: we'll see this West. The Broncos defense in the first
Speaker 1: half against Jacksonville looked like what we thought we would
Speaker 1: get all season. They just have to If they had
Speaker 1: done that for the full game, we would say they're back,
Speaker 1: they're ready to go. That was their last stand game,
Speaker 1: and you can see what the emotion they were playing
Speaker 1: with that that they were They wanted an orange crushed
Speaker 1: day and they were feeling themselves. And then Gardner min
Speaker 1: she took it eleven minutes and they were never the
Speaker 1: same without Bradley, though, you get a nice home game
Speaker 1: in l A this week if you're a Broncos fan.
Speaker 1: So that's, by the way, by West's logic, which I
Speaker 1: think is good, the last stand game. If you lose
Speaker 1: your last stand game, there's no way you win the
Speaker 1: next week. Okay, there's no way. They they seem like
Speaker 1: you're saying they want no dignity and dignity Health Sports
Speaker 1: Park this week. No. No, I mean if that, if
Speaker 1: that theory holds, West, if you lose the last stand game,
Speaker 1: you have to come out flat and dead, which makes
Speaker 1: this a lockable game. If you could look in the
Speaker 1: mirror now, I wouldn't be able to look in the
Speaker 1: mirror two and two or so and four. But if
Speaker 1: anybody else can see a reflection or Greg on his
Speaker 1: own rules, UM, I think it would just narrowly sneak
Speaker 1: under the my rules. But it is not my lock.
Speaker 1: I've soft locked the Seahawks, and I'm sort of still
Speaker 1: considering that throughout the show. I'm not gonna go lock
Speaker 1: up against an OH and four team. A soft lock
Speaker 1: is like one of those you know, with your Schwin bicycle,
Speaker 1: with like the four letter combinations that's so easy to
Speaker 1: break through, and so you're a child sub combinations seven
Speaker 1: seven seven seven. It's the people like maybe you got
Speaker 1: an alarm home security system at some point, but you
Speaker 1: no longer pay for it. You just keep the sign up,
Speaker 1: keep it up enough to sign the little sticker. I
Speaker 1: get that you are what your record says you are,
Speaker 1: and this is No. And four team, But it's like
Speaker 1: the intro to Greg's debrief this week, the vicissitudes of
Speaker 1: just to play here and to play there if not
Speaker 1: for too roughing the passer penalties. I think pieces are
Speaker 1: flying out right now about how Elway and Flacco have
Speaker 1: revived the two and two Broncos and and Flacco is
Speaker 1: just I mean, he's just a care about a team.
Speaker 1: I just don't know that about Washington Bridge too far.
Speaker 1: It wasn't I'm just saying to plays, this is not
Speaker 1: your typical oh and four team. They are the weirdest
Speaker 1: oh and four teams we have. I hear you. But
Speaker 1: they should be one in three because here's how I
Speaker 1: look at it. They lost two games convincingly, and they
Speaker 1: split two at the buzzer, so it's like, you know, there,
Speaker 1: they haven't been a great team. I would be a
Speaker 1: one in three the mask. I would argue that Jaguars
Speaker 1: come back the engine behind it was a terrible Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco intersect, and I would argue back, he's on the
Speaker 1: roller coast to stay with the last three weeks, what
Speaker 1: do you want your quarterback to do? Lead two minute
Speaker 1: drills to score the go ahead touchdown with only a
Speaker 1: minute left in the game, and he did it. I
Speaker 1: said it on last week's spot. I don't actually don't
Speaker 1: think Flacco is their problem. Flacco has been exactly as
Speaker 1: good as they could hope for. They needed to be
Speaker 1: better all around. I don't know. Part of me is
Speaker 1: just like okay, But I mean I'm also not amped
Speaker 1: up as a human being. If accurate the problem with
Speaker 1: the Broncos, says my actress. He's he threw a killer
Speaker 1: interception that changed the energy and made up for it
Speaker 1: by scoring the Also, we had a bunch of drives
Speaker 1: that he didn't fly. This. Why did Flacco becomes uch?
Speaker 1: You know why? Because there needs to be This is
Speaker 1: interesting how this podcast works. There needed to be a
Speaker 1: lightning rod because you didn't have Eli to kick around anymore.
Speaker 1: So now you have the new Eli, which is Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: and but ronically it is West now who is not
Speaker 1: seeing the light and is staring at the good things
Speaker 1: and ignoring the bad thing. I am seeing the light.
Speaker 1: You want mis evaluating this. Joe Flacco has been an
Speaker 1: average quarterback. But I'm saying, but all the analytics last
Speaker 1: season how Eli is like a top fifteen quarterback, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: He doesn't pass the eyes Eli, No, that is not true.
Speaker 1: You're throwing out falsehoods and erroneous statements. Alright, Well, just
Speaker 1: everyone listened to every single football podcasts out there. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna hear this type of heat about Flacco anywhere else.
Speaker 1: We care about all thirty two teams. He's just been average.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. All right, let's move on, all right,
Speaker 1: I want that dignity is important. It's not just when
Speaker 1: you look in the mirror about what game he could
Speaker 1: lock up for. For the people in the room like
Speaker 1: me and Mark and to some extent Greg, you can say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take my favorite team because nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: double cross me and take my team there, so I'll
Speaker 1: steal him at the end of the draft. Now that's
Speaker 1: not fair. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put you
Speaker 1: guys in that position, and I'm not going to play
Speaker 1: the game that way. So even though this would have
Speaker 1: been a week to do it though I know, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I'm just not gonna do
Speaker 1: it because like that, there's a chance Sam Donald plays,
Speaker 1: and there's no way I'm gonna have somebody else watching
Speaker 1: that game for this podcast. So I'm taking the Jets
Speaker 1: at the Eagles. It's all. And uh, we'll see there's
Speaker 1: a tweet. Here's a tweet I heard from a very
Speaker 1: good source, direct source. This is some real zuser insider stuff.
Speaker 1: Uh that there's a good chance Donald plays. But then
Speaker 1: I see, um, a tweet from Donald's availability today. This
Speaker 1: from Connor Hughes, who does very good work for the
Speaker 1: athletic Sam Donald says he wants to make sure he's
Speaker 1: quote not going to die out there on Sunday. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be the most Jets thing ever that Adam
Speaker 1: Gas and his mania to not be painted as the
Speaker 1: most miserable offensive mind in the league will kind of
Speaker 1: push his quarterback onto the field despite a large spleen,
Speaker 1: and that's something terrible happens. That would be a very
Speaker 1: Jets thing to have happened. Um, I'm just hoping that's
Speaker 1: not what happens here. I hope Sam Donald is active
Speaker 1: and also healthy, and there's a good chance that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And now they go to the Eagles. Uh. And it's
Speaker 1: a really tough game. It's a very difficult game. But
Speaker 1: if there's one thing to hang your hat on, um,
Speaker 1: if you think this could be a game, is the
Speaker 1: idea of as a lot of things that have to happen.
Speaker 1: Donald has to play, the offense has to look a
Speaker 1: lot better with a healthy Sam Donald, and then they
Speaker 1: pick at the Eagle secondary, which has not been good.
Speaker 1: That's the only way this this becomes a game, otherwise
Speaker 1: it's gonna be grim. And I don't even know who's
Speaker 1: calling this, Greg CBS. I imagine it is like a
Speaker 1: Marv Albert special, C SPAN, C SPAN Public Access. But
Speaker 1: that's that's the path is Donald plays and then has
Speaker 1: happen able to have some success against Philly secondary their line.
Speaker 1: They're one of these teams that concern me because when
Speaker 1: you go get the PFF rankings of everyone on offense
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, they're one of these two or
Speaker 1: three teams where their five starting lineman are the bottom
Speaker 1: five out of six players in rankings in deep red territory.
Speaker 1: And it sometimes that doesn't translate and I know how
Speaker 1: these rankings are done for the lineman, but it translates
Speaker 1: with the Jets, their line has been it's been a
Speaker 1: big story. And the thing that's been the most kind
Speaker 1: of flummixing for people inside the building and out is
Speaker 1: that talent wise, it's not the worst line. There are
Speaker 1: guys that can play and then have played at an
Speaker 1: okay level in this league, so that has not been
Speaker 1: the issue. The worst of gas so I mean, but
Speaker 1: the finish. The Panthers didn't want khalil Let me finish. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: you could say that maybe they just got guys that
Speaker 1: were done, and that's possible, but there's also been talk
Speaker 1: for it to be as bad as it is that
Speaker 1: there's an issue with scheme going on, and it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's a coaching disagreement behind the scenes about how
Speaker 1: how to handle the attack on offense and they tried
Speaker 1: to in their most recent game before the bid against
Speaker 1: the Patriots, scale it all the way back to almost
Speaker 1: a rudimentary form. And I'm not an offensive line expert,
Speaker 1: but I could say that they are on the fly
Speaker 1: trying to change their entire strategy and that didn't work either.
Speaker 1: So there's there. It's been a big, big soggy mess
Speaker 1: on that line, but I think it might be just
Speaker 1: beyond talent. You gotta be careful with Darneld. I also
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to put him out there and see anything
Speaker 1: like what happened in Week one when he was fully
Speaker 1: healthy and they were the worst offense in the league
Speaker 1: that week. He was not fully healthy in Week one
Speaker 1: he had mono. Then yes, okay, so there, so maybe
Speaker 1: that that was part of it. The scheme hasn't looked good.
Speaker 1: This is a matchup you should be able to take
Speaker 1: advantage of. You know, if you're throwing the ball pretty well.
Speaker 1: You can't run on the Eagles, but you can throw
Speaker 1: on them. They they're they have not had a pass
Speaker 1: rush if three sacks this year. Derek Barnett's not really
Speaker 1: working out for them, like they're they're a beatable defense.
Speaker 1: The Eagles defense right now, well, do they have enough
Speaker 1: warm bodies to start at cornerback? I think so. I
Speaker 1: think you know they're not gonna have Darby back, but
Speaker 1: I think Maddox is he back. He looked brutal before
Speaker 1: he got injured. The the other thing I'd be worried
Speaker 1: about it with the Jets though, is the is the
Speaker 1: Williams wall that we had talked about going into the season.
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams hasn't seemed to be a fit for Greg
Speaker 1: Williams's defense hasn't made much impact. And then Quentin has
Speaker 1: just been out for a couple of weeks and he
Speaker 1: returned to see him making impact. Leonard Williams is a
Speaker 1: guy that's there's buzz about he could be a trade
Speaker 1: candidate because you know, to keep moving on from it's
Speaker 1: more it's more than a Greg Williams thing. He just
Speaker 1: has not ever become the guy everybody thought he would.
Speaker 1: He's a really good run stopper that's never been a
Speaker 1: pass rush guy, And um, do they want to give
Speaker 1: him a big contract? Do they want to franchise tag him?
Speaker 1: Or do you want to trade him to a team
Speaker 1: who thinks they can unlock his sizeable potential. I think
Speaker 1: he could be a guy to look at who could
Speaker 1: be on the move in October. I just I wonder
Speaker 1: what Jim Schwartz is telling his defense if Sam Donaldson
Speaker 1: for some reason, like it concerns me with the kind
Speaker 1: of injury and illness that he had, that they're being
Speaker 1: thrown out there that there that they don't really seem
Speaker 1: to trust Adam gas alone to make the decision because
Speaker 1: it's a deep committee with the GM involved and it
Speaker 1: has to be. But like they made a point of that,
Speaker 1: and like, I I don't know, it's not gonna He's
Speaker 1: not gonna play unless the doctors say he's fine. So
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's good. But the Jets and this stuff
Speaker 1: usually I just throw it have never in the history
Speaker 1: of the NFL beating the Eagles, and I would be
Speaker 1: if the if the if Philadelphia lost this game, and
Speaker 1: that's a team I talked about as maybe in my mind,
Speaker 1: the third or fourth best team, this would be one
Speaker 1: of the biggest disappointments of the decade for the Eagles
Speaker 1: to lose this game and it's not enough. It is
Speaker 1: a knock on the Jets, sorry on the sense of
Speaker 1: their talent going in with situation they're in. In terms
Speaker 1: of like them being a favorite, You're probably right that
Speaker 1: they would probably might be the biggest favorite game they're
Speaker 1: What will happen on Philly radio if they ever lost
Speaker 1: to this team. I'm curious to see if Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: and Jordan Howard can keep it going because I kind
Speaker 1: of like that backfield the way they're they're trending. I
Speaker 1: think Jordan Howard's run pretty well. Sanders gives you something
Speaker 1: if they if they don't play that well, I do
Speaker 1: wonder if they would add a running back at the
Speaker 1: trade deadline, but there's no reason to you at this point. Alight,
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to uh what were the one
Speaker 1: o'clock games? This is my backup game in the morning.
Speaker 1: I don't like to even think myself as having a
Speaker 1: backup game because there's so much focus. Let's see the
Speaker 1: gable going around the wheel. And I'm looking for a
Speaker 1: rocking chair game for my later early game as well.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. I'll take the Patriots. Come on,
Speaker 1: oh no, I don't want to watch the Patriots this week.
Speaker 1: Um live. I'll take the Texans and the Falcons because
Speaker 1: it's got DeShawn Watson involved. Uh And that's fun, partly
Speaker 1: because you don't know what you're gonna get some weeks.
Speaker 1: You get what you got last week, where they average
Speaker 1: three point three yards per attempt, which is a little wild.
Speaker 1: I think they will be able to bounce back, partly
Speaker 1: because their offensive line, their improvement that we talked about
Speaker 1: in week three, it was there again last week. I
Speaker 1: know he took a few sacks, but man, they protected
Speaker 1: him really well against Carolina. Uh. And I think ultimately
Speaker 1: that's a good sign long term for this Texans team
Speaker 1: that has a lot of good things going for them.
Speaker 1: They got out scheme, they got out played a week ago,
Speaker 1: and talk about the last stand game. I think this
Speaker 1: is it for the Falcons. Well, no, maybe it's a
Speaker 1: little early for that. Again. Later I rode here, Texans
Speaker 1: can break Falcons right here and and if you and
Speaker 1: if the falcon, if the Falcons lose, is it highlighted
Speaker 1: though ort Texans can break Falcons? Should be like we
Speaker 1: should have another spit OFUF podcast where Mark holds up
Speaker 1: his notes and just shows this different thing, but a
Speaker 1: little work marks highlighters if you get because the way
Speaker 1: it is I'm looking at it right now, is there.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can hold it up for the camera. You
Speaker 1: have you have the standard black font, then you have
Speaker 1: red font, and then you have and this is important,
Speaker 1: highlighted black font, which I can only assume is the
Speaker 1: most important. It's called work and to me, it translates
Speaker 1: a lot of it. I just used to notes from
Speaker 1: week to week doesn't translate always when we've got three
Speaker 1: and a half minutes to discuss I like it. You
Speaker 1: are super prepared, super prepped. The Texans defense is playing
Speaker 1: nine guys basically every snap, which is very out of
Speaker 1: the Norman Today's NFL. Whitney Merciless and J J Y
Speaker 1: played almost every snap the entire season. This kind of
Speaker 1: speaks to how top heavy they are that we've talked about,
Speaker 1: like it's a very risky way to run defense playing nineteen,
Speaker 1: but they're playing they're playing well, they've got they've got
Speaker 1: a week spot in their secondary and rookie Lonnie Johnson,
Speaker 1: who teams are attacking, and I would expect the Falcons
Speaker 1: to go right at him. Falcons are a five hundred
Speaker 1: teams since they're Super Bowl loss only. The Dolphins are
Speaker 1: worse in the first half in terms of point differential
Speaker 1: this year, and they're starting about eleven or twelve of
Speaker 1: the same guys they were starting when they were dominant
Speaker 1: and a couple of years ago. I think you have
Speaker 1: to wonder about the coaching. Quinn has regressed um or
Speaker 1: the defense has regressed. With Quinn is the play. They
Speaker 1: have no running game and we beat up Steve Sarkisian
Speaker 1: everybody did. Dark Cutter comes along and are we seeing
Speaker 1: the old Falkins offense? Dark Cutter reminds me. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of the Bucks offense, where there's a ton of yardage,
Speaker 1: not a lot of drives going for touchdowns necessarily. No,
Speaker 1: they were Matt Ryan was sacked what five times? Last week?
Speaker 1: They were stopped on fourth and short three times. They've
Speaker 1: totally fizzle against the They're not a balanced team, and
Speaker 1: I don't like the way that you're going into Houston
Speaker 1: and you're dealing with merciless and J. J. Watt, I'm
Speaker 1: regretting this pick right now here and now this, And
Speaker 1: this is one of those situations like in a fantasy draft,
Speaker 1: you get back to your computer, there's like seven seconds
Speaker 1: left and you buy you take Vacante Shanko to fill
Speaker 1: your tight end slot. Um, all right, let us move
Speaker 1: on up next, Mark Sessler. So I typically it looks
Speaker 1: like it will be a week where I have to
Speaker 1: write a recap in one of these games. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking for one that's just a big, meaty blowout, hopefully
Speaker 1: over by halftime. But I also enjoy I enjoy seeing
Speaker 1: utter destruction, and I want to see talk about a
Speaker 1: team that's going to be paying the price when they
Speaker 1: get whopped once again, when the Patriots go into Washington
Speaker 1: and take the Redskins and scatter them into fifty parts.
Speaker 1: I also I want to see how New England plays
Speaker 1: on offense. After last week. It's not obviously you're playing
Speaker 1: one fourth the team, but New England watching that game,
Speaker 1: looked bad on offense, and the Bills had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with it. But this is a team in
Speaker 1: New England that just had to put their kicker on.
Speaker 1: Ir Mike Nugent is your kicker? Now that is I'm
Speaker 1: not seeing Guskowski. Kai was in the running for that job,
Speaker 1: and Kai's Kai. We all know that. What does that
Speaker 1: tell you? But go get a job, Kai, Go win
Speaker 1: a job in a big spot. It's been a while now,
Speaker 1: it's been a minute since you've been kicking in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and you're up against the news, and we all know
Speaker 1: the news is the news, and the news is about
Speaker 1: to see to see minus and they had five plus
Speaker 1: kickers in a I love that they're going that building
Speaker 1: and don't walk out of that building until you gotta
Speaker 1: you've got a contract in your head. It is delightful.
Speaker 1: They've gone from Vinitary to Gustkowsky, no break in between,
Speaker 1: twenty three years, four games, and now you've got the
Speaker 1: nude and you've got young Way coup on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's it's not a huge step down.
Speaker 1: I almost thought my first thing was that this might
Speaker 1: have been a phantom I R scenario because he's missed
Speaker 1: four extra points in four games, and maybe he's it's
Speaker 1: a It's amazing and a credit to Vinitierry, even with
Speaker 1: his struggles earlier this year, that he's still kicking in
Speaker 1: the league while the guy that replaced them, the kid
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, might be nearing the end of the
Speaker 1: line potend. Now he's having left hip hip surgery. Apparently
Speaker 1: he's been playing through it for a while, and that
Speaker 1: is potentially, you know, a career threatening injury. Be a kicker,
Speaker 1: he's been a great pro. He's been a you know,
Speaker 1: he's been a great kicker over the years. I will
Speaker 1: miss let's pick this game. Do you think that Belichick
Speaker 1: will be able to survive the game? Play need advantage
Speaker 1: that the Redskins have in this one? Whit whit well
Speaker 1: after Jake no idea, who's playing quarterback, they asked him,
Speaker 1: what is your planet? He said, we don't have one,
Speaker 1: but we I would love to see a little cult McCoy.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. I would can I lock up cult McCoy
Speaker 1: starting because I feel like that is in your own
Speaker 1: little world. You can extremely safe unless he injures himself
Speaker 1: between Sunday, which is possible. I hate these type of games.
Speaker 1: Is there's a few real like dead butt teams right now.
Speaker 1: Redskins are one of them, and uh, I feel like
Speaker 1: we've learned nothing about this game. But like, if the
Speaker 1: Patriots score forty points, I don't I don't take anything
Speaker 1: from that. This is not how purbly the Redskins started
Speaker 1: in offense last week. That is worse than some of
Speaker 1: them you'll see in the preseason. I think out of
Speaker 1: the eleven players who started for them on offense, not
Speaker 1: even half could make a roster for another. Well, they
Speaker 1: are very injured two and they're missing Trent Williams. Like it,
Speaker 1: there was distinct disadvantages going in, but you don't trust
Speaker 1: the coaching staff to coach out of any of them.
Speaker 1: Mcclarin is is back, but Sheriff might still be out. Jordan,
Speaker 1: he hasn't played this year. Vernon Davis might be added
Speaker 1: to the mix. You know, you can watch Larry Guy,
Speaker 1: my guy, Lawrence Sky. You know, we're just gonna pick
Speaker 1: out a new role player on this Patriots defense. It's
Speaker 1: playing lights out every week. It's Larry Guy. It's it's
Speaker 1: a great defense. Josh Gordon's a problem. That's one thing
Speaker 1: I think that you can learn in this game. Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon and Tom are very much not on the same page.
Speaker 1: I watching rewatching that game. It wasn't about protection. It
Speaker 1: was about Edelman's hurt. Gordon is hurt and out of sink.
Speaker 1: The receiver situation is not pristine. They are They were
Speaker 1: a three out machine in that game. You you blanked
Speaker 1: and they had the puncher back on. The punter is
Speaker 1: doing great, by the way, to Ben Watson returns by
Speaker 1: the way, former Patriots great after ten years away from
Speaker 1: the team. Minor yawn um, All right, can we get
Speaker 1: a full screen on Ricky because this is a snake
Speaker 1: snake pick and we want to make sure. But like
Speaker 1: close ups, she ran downstairs and cut the drop maybe
Speaker 1: the audio and just don't care. But like getting on
Speaker 1: the ploores, You know what, why would you say that?
Speaker 1: Fair request? Let it? I'm a snake, alright, Mark, I'm
Speaker 1: a snake. It's a baby, and I am going to pick.
Speaker 1: You know we're going to London. Why not take the
Speaker 1: London game. I love that they've actually found a way
Speaker 1: to put this at our time ten a m l
Speaker 1: A time one pm Eastern, not any not sure at
Speaker 1: all what time it is in the UK. They can
Speaker 1: figure that out six pm in London. I looked at
Speaker 1: the Bears game. I have I am so have been
Speaker 1: so down on the Bears because I cannot believe at
Speaker 1: all in their offense, in their quarterback position. My mind
Speaker 1: has changed at this point. I could see them becoming
Speaker 1: one of the last two teams in a non dominant
Speaker 1: team NFC. I really could. And I think their defense
Speaker 1: is truly special. And London games, oh, these seem to
Speaker 1: come with a bit of residual chaos, and I think
Speaker 1: this is going to the Bears. Whoever plays the Bears,
Speaker 1: whatever happens, whoever loses that game, obviously is gonna come
Speaker 1: out with total nightmarish in house issues. We saw it
Speaker 1: with the Vikings. You know, you've got two one receiver complaining,
Speaker 1: the others on the trade block. Potentially everyone's wondering what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Vikings. What will happen when the
Speaker 1: Raiders get utterly thumped in a game that I think
Speaker 1: will be about thirty three to seven, and the Raiders
Speaker 1: come out of London with no answers, looking totally lost,
Speaker 1: and we are looking at the last eleven or twelve
Speaker 1: games of Derek Carrett quarterback. Well, I'm sticking to that opinion.
Speaker 1: You can shake your head. I just think that they're
Speaker 1: gonna be This is the beginning of a lot of
Speaker 1: changes on offense and the Bears are they defense travels
Speaker 1: to London, well, and they're going to drop the old
Speaker 1: Chicago hammer. And I don't care what Chase Daniel does.
Speaker 1: I just realized what's going on here marks organic tanking
Speaker 1: the draft here because you just you pick the biggest
Speaker 1: lop sided game of the week. This is not this
Speaker 1: is Patriots and you just predicted you predicted a thirty
Speaker 1: three to three. Okay, well, two massive blowouts. You need
Speaker 1: to I don't need. First of all, we watched all
Speaker 1: these games during the week on Sunday. I'm fine with
Speaker 1: a couple distinctive. I enjoy football blowouts too. You don't.
Speaker 1: That's you. You're hitting on something. And this has become
Speaker 1: a fascinate for me in all sports and entertaining blowout
Speaker 1: is underrated. I love see greatness and have a destruction
Speaker 1: and wipe the floor like in tennis other sports too.
Speaker 1: I I sometimes enjoy that better than like a close
Speaker 1: about a dude on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Doesn't that take away from it a little bit? I
Speaker 1: would I would fume this mue like Chicago's defense. We're
Speaker 1: watching a truly great, memorable defense has answered all the
Speaker 1: doubters after people thought they couldn't do it again. I've
Speaker 1: said that a bunch in the off season, and to me,
Speaker 1: a wipe out like this it's purifying. Well, they've had great,
Speaker 1: they've had good, they've had good matchups overall. And this
Speaker 1: is another one. You know, the Raiders offense, despite being
Speaker 1: two and two, has only two receivers over sixty yards.
Speaker 1: They could use like a number one type of receiver,
Speaker 1: like a Hall of Fame type of guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Because then Tyrone Williams, he's he's a
Speaker 1: good two who is now playing one. You have Darren Waller,
Speaker 1: he's broken out. Josh Jacobs is a great pick, but
Speaker 1: you're so thin at receiver hunter renfro who. It was
Speaker 1: really the trendy thing after the draft and in the summer,
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is the guy you just stick
Speaker 1: right in there. He's gonna be catching seventy balls the
Speaker 1: next decade. He they've thrown the ball eighteen times to him.
Speaker 1: They have eighty eight yards on those eighteen throws. He's
Speaker 1: him and the rest of the outside receivers other than
Speaker 1: Tyroe Williams are guys who would not make other teams.
Speaker 1: I think I like the matchup for Chase Daniel. This
Speaker 1: is a dream scenario. No Vantes perfect and Cleveland Furrel,
Speaker 1: the number four over overall pick in the draft. Among
Speaker 1: edge rushers with one hundred plus snaps this season, ranks
Speaker 1: dead last and win rate according to Pro pro Football Focus,
Speaker 1: which is basically the guy. I know Raiders fans don't
Speaker 1: see it this way, but essentially, you traded Khalil Mack
Speaker 1: and you used your top five pick on a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: He's essentially Clio Max's replacement. Well, there's that angle to
Speaker 1: this game. To Khalil Mack having a chance to face
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders and John Gruden. I would imagine he's
Speaker 1: already on an m v P level tear right now.
Speaker 1: This would have a nice little narrative. What's gonna lead
Speaker 1: all your little prime time shows? If Khalil Mack has
Speaker 1: three sacks in this game, he knows how to trash
Speaker 1: Colton Miller if that's when he's going up against him.
Speaker 1: Trent Brown, by the way, who we also wondered, was
Speaker 1: that too much money? He's been fantastic for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line in general has been fantastic. Not Colton
Speaker 1: Miller though, so that's if you get you get Mac
Speaker 1: or if it's Floyd when he's on Miller and you
Speaker 1: have a win. It is pretty wild. By the way,
Speaker 1: I thought about this couple days ago. We were so
Speaker 1: close to it and everyone was so exhausted by the storylines.
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is not in the NFL anymore. He's just
Speaker 1: had a the NFL, the arguably the best wide receiver
Speaker 1: in football. They's just gone. Yes, someone was just because
Speaker 1: he was us. He apparently got into it on social
Speaker 1: media with some player and like this baeld in some stories. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess this was a big story in some circles,
Speaker 1: but in others like mine, I'm sure that's muted or
Speaker 1: you know, it's like even him screaming into the void
Speaker 1: is not really like making a big pop anymore. He
Speaker 1: needed to go off on like Scandinavian novels and then
Speaker 1: it would have hit Gregg's feet. But it was. It
Speaker 1: was a relatively large store after wet in Baker. This
Speaker 1: is uh, this is a perfect game to open up Tottenham.
Speaker 1: The London crowd they know it. They love the ugly games,
Speaker 1: and I love them for that. They loved it, loved
Speaker 1: the defense, they love the kicking. There might be some
Speaker 1: rain here. It just could be messy fans in London,
Speaker 1: all right. Next up, Greg No, Well, I think, actually,
Speaker 1: here's what you do when you have I guess no
Speaker 1: trap board three games at one point at one time.
Speaker 1: You gotta just take the battle of the windless teams.
Speaker 1: Because if there's any game that deserves the number three spot,
Speaker 1: it's the Cardinals and the Bengals. I mean the Cardinals here.
Speaker 1: Let's try to think of something interesting in this game.
Speaker 1: They're running. Game hasn't been bad. David Johnson, I think
Speaker 1: looks better each week. Was starting to do some of
Speaker 1: those ski slalom moves that he used to do a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Last week, Kyler Murray, when they do
Speaker 1: call a run for him or when he scrambles, his
Speaker 1: footwork is just different. Like his footspeed and foot work.
Speaker 1: His feet are moving so quickly, like it's wild. I
Speaker 1: love and disappointed in him as as a runner. They
Speaker 1: don't use in an escape artist like Lamar Jackson is
Speaker 1: an explosive, elusive runner. I don't think Kyler Murray. Kyler
Speaker 1: is not looking to run. You're right, it's the couple
Speaker 1: of teams, right. That's when he's he's trying to buy time.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's great buying time in the pocket,
Speaker 1: But when he actually makes the decision to go, he
Speaker 1: shakes people off and goes around him like it's nothing.
Speaker 1: And the running game hasn't been bad. They should be
Speaker 1: able to run all over this. I mean David Johnson
Speaker 1: has and he had this trait and this skill before
Speaker 1: he's become a primary receiver. Because they don't have a
Speaker 1: deep game the way that I thought they would necessarily.
Speaker 1: I when I watched the Cardinals, like they move the
Speaker 1: ball really really well. They cannot finish drives. It's constantly
Speaker 1: going eleven. They have these long nine ten eleven play
Speaker 1: drives that finished with a field goal, and field goals
Speaker 1: that go south half the time too. To me, they're
Speaker 1: disappointing and I and I do wonder because it's too
Speaker 1: early to judge. They need more time to build what
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury wants to do. They don't look to me
Speaker 1: that distinctively explosively different than a bunch of other teams
Speaker 1: that are using three wide receiver sets all the time. Fine,
Speaker 1: they go for it's not translating into stuff we've never
Speaker 1: seen before that we're so bedazzled by. And I do
Speaker 1: wonder where you brought in Cliff Kingsbury. I think he's
Speaker 1: done okay job with not a lot of parts early on.
Speaker 1: What if you get a ten and eleven games into
Speaker 1: this and realize, wait a minute, this special offense isn't
Speaker 1: that special and they lost Kristen Kirk. Both John Rashian
Speaker 1: and Kristen Kirk are expected to missus game ross Are
Speaker 1: they that impossible to the band? For though? From a
Speaker 1: defensive and points when Larry FitzGeralds is by far your
Speaker 1: number one and your two draft picks at their three
Speaker 1: draft picks at the position aren't making much of an impact.
Speaker 1: They're not that hard to cover. You get one on
Speaker 1: one matchups, but they're not hard to cover. I saw
Speaker 1: Larry FitzGeralds that that blew my mind. This week, you
Speaker 1: guys all know that he's now second only to Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice and career receptions. He has one thousand six receptions,
Speaker 1: second on the active list. Take a guess, Wow, Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown doesn't count. No actively suiting up for NFL teams.
Speaker 1: I don't not just tell Jolio Jones has seven one,
Speaker 1: He's got like about half of Larry Fitzgerald's receptions. That
Speaker 1: is crazy. That is wild. And on the Cincinnati side,
Speaker 1: we saw, you know, how things how bad things have
Speaker 1: gotten on Monday night. Robert Maze of The Ringer wrote
Speaker 1: a piece this week about about Cincinnati basically their downfall
Speaker 1: since he broke his thumb. Uh. He was an m
Speaker 1: v P cant in two thousand fifteen, broke his thumb
Speaker 1: and then everything that's gone downhill for Cincinnati since. Uh.
Speaker 1: He came to the conclusion what we've been talking about
Speaker 1: in years on this podcast, that he's essentially the prime
Speaker 1: Ridian and he's as good as the people around him
Speaker 1: allow him to be. And it can get really bad
Speaker 1: when you have bad people around him, which is where
Speaker 1: he is right now. And made me think about if
Speaker 1: this is indeed the end of the Andy Dalton experience
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and they have no more guaranteed money tied
Speaker 1: up with him after this season, if they did go
Speaker 1: in a different direction, does Andy Dalton get a chance
Speaker 1: to be a starter somewhere else or does he have
Speaker 1: to go to the Ryan Tannehill path of his career
Speaker 1: because by the same virtue of what we've been discussing,
Speaker 1: if you if you're a team that has a nice
Speaker 1: set up around it, perhaps Dalton could be closer to
Speaker 1: the guy who wasn't h I'm curious what kind of
Speaker 1: value he would have a case Keenum, but only if
Speaker 1: only one or two coaches would would have taking case
Speaker 1: keenom to begin with. And I know I'm rough on Dalton.
Speaker 1: I think that I think that your quarterback has more
Speaker 1: meaning than than just simply his on field talents or ceiling.
Speaker 1: You have to sell your quarterback to a more savvy
Speaker 1: fan based than at any time in football history. I
Speaker 1: think it's a tough sell. The answer is yes, so
Speaker 1: get a chance at some He's not gonna be the
Speaker 1: Broncos quarterback next year? Is it feels about right? J? J.
Speaker 1: Gruden will be coaching Andy Dalton in Denver. I mean
Speaker 1: they actually have links. It does. But they put John
Speaker 1: Ross and I R And you know a J. Green
Speaker 1: is bubbling up is a potential guy you ship out
Speaker 1: of the building because why is he there? Off? You
Speaker 1: know you could see Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon is the
Speaker 1: one last guy who's like a real asset there and
Speaker 1: you can just see how fresh I for broke my
Speaker 1: heart and that after the steel The only time that
Speaker 1: game felt like it was competitive is a fumble by
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Since then, I takes over first ten for
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's fifteen Tyler Eiffort on a third down on a
Speaker 1: pass he absolutely pulls in before his forty seven you know,
Speaker 1: lower body injuries he had. It was like when Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham couldn't come down with that pass on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: Like old Jimmy Graham's got that. Old Tyler would have
Speaker 1: had that ball I have. I've let Tyler go after that.
Speaker 1: You've been very into Tyler Rife first, I've had time,
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of patience. I always believed in him,
Speaker 1: but I think those injuries have taken away that elite athleticism.
Speaker 1: That's all I feel about Earl Thomas. It's tough, right
Speaker 1: it is to fash it out again. Boom is pick.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really surprised the way the draft fall
Speaker 1: in the last picks, because you know, in in fantasy dress,
Speaker 1: sometimes when you're like I really want to take this guy,
Speaker 1: but you take the other guy and then life is
Speaker 1: good and you end up getting the option to take
Speaker 1: that original guy. That's what happened for me here. Uh uh.
Speaker 1: I have the Minnesota Vikings to the metal Lands to
Speaker 1: face the Giants, and yes, we have a an epidemic
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Stefon Diggs now is letting it be
Speaker 1: known that because times are getting tough in the modern NFL,
Speaker 1: times get tough, trade me, get me out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm not happy. I don't need to play out to
Speaker 1: my contract. I will be sick. I will go home
Speaker 1: and then I will try to force your hand to
Speaker 1: trade me. Uh. He came back to the team after
Speaker 1: missing a practice yesterday, Diggs, And this isn't a season
Speaker 1: in which we know everything has gone badly right now
Speaker 1: going badly right now from Minnesota's offense. Very small sample size,
Speaker 1: by the way, but he is not getting targeted the
Speaker 1: way he did last season, not even close. Stefon Diggs.
Speaker 1: And on the same week that Adam Feelan called out
Speaker 1: the offense and the quarterback, leading to Kirk Cousins weirdly
Speaker 1: publicly apologizing to Adam Feelan, the other wide receiver, then
Speaker 1: lets it be known that he wants out of town.
Speaker 1: So Minnesota has a lot of issues right now, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of an interesting time for them to go
Speaker 1: face a Giant's team that, despite back to back wins,
Speaker 1: known is gonna confuse this defense with the eight six Giants. Uh, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: If they just figure out some type of game plan
Speaker 1: and find some balance to their offense, you would think
Speaker 1: they should be able to move the ball. And if
Speaker 1: they don't and Danny Dimes and I don't think say
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is playing, but apparently he is. He is possible.
Speaker 1: They say it's not practicing as a Thursday, but apparently
Speaker 1: he's such a superman that it's he's getting close. But
Speaker 1: even without say Kwan Barkley, if the Viking still find
Speaker 1: a way to win this game, and if they look
Speaker 1: bad doing it, we might have a mutiny in on
Speaker 1: our hand with the old Viking horn. I mean, you win,
Speaker 1: you win, it doesn't matter if it's a star you're saying.
Speaker 1: If they win ugly, no, no, if they lose or thirteen. Uh,
Speaker 1: and the offense is not moving, everyone's already talking behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. I just this season could go up in flames,
Speaker 1: as sometimes happens in Minnesota. Something else, I wrote Death
Speaker 1: of the Vikings a question mark. I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but that a double pound sign in front
Speaker 1: of the triple and that's just to separate it. So
Speaker 1: I remember to say more that held something against the
Speaker 1: Vikings ever since you gave their your heart to them
Speaker 1: as the team of a t L. That's but I
Speaker 1: would say this though, because something seems to systematically eerie
Speaker 1: with the Vikings, because Kevin Stefanski, their offensive coordinator, was
Speaker 1: someone that was getting a ton of buzz around the
Speaker 1: league and got a head coaching interviewer two. The Browns
Speaker 1: are very serious about him potentially being their head coach,
Speaker 1: and analytic skies loved him and all this other business
Speaker 1: they bring in Gary Kubiak. But I feel like that
Speaker 1: was to quell to some degree Mike Zimmer, who for
Speaker 1: two years in a row cannot get by behind an
Speaker 1: offense that is actually modernized. It is run first, and
Speaker 1: that's great when you're in a situation where Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: is going to run the ball crazy. I know the
Speaker 1: offensive line stinks, but I look at the Vikings as
Speaker 1: a confused operation. What is it they are on offense?
Speaker 1: And if they ever the Giants are not a very
Speaker 1: good defense, obviously, but they looked better last week. I
Speaker 1: know who they were playing. I do not. I know
Speaker 1: who they're playing, but I'm not just gonna simply like
Speaker 1: like it was a step forward and Sequon Barkley or
Speaker 1: not win Gallman played Okay, they did not totally. They
Speaker 1: were not dead on the ground. This is a frisky
Speaker 1: Giants team. I'm scared if this is a VI if
Speaker 1: you're a fan, this is the it's the sample size.
Speaker 1: And that's why the Diggs wants out thing really was
Speaker 1: like what uh, He's had issues for a while. But
Speaker 1: let me say, let me just say Week one, Week
Speaker 1: one of the versus Atlanta, they ran the ball very
Speaker 1: well twenty eight points and put up easy win. Week
Speaker 1: three against the Raiders rocking Chair game thirty four fourteen,
Speaker 1: everything looked good. They've had two rocky games in between.
Speaker 1: But to act like this is some team that is
Speaker 1: in total crisis, they just need to see more. They
Speaker 1: are well above five hundred since Diggs got there. They
Speaker 1: pay their players well, I mean, what is the problem.
Speaker 1: He signed a deal last summer for forty million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: You're there, dude, stay there, And you know I went
Speaker 1: to coaches filmed this game because there's so much talk
Speaker 1: about Cousins. You know, play a little duck hunter on
Speaker 1: coaches film. Whoever pops open, you you shoot the duck.
Speaker 1: There aren't many ducks open in this game. They're just
Speaker 1: and there aren't that many plays. They're running a lot
Speaker 1: of screens, they're calling run plays. What do you want
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to do on those plays? There's there's like
Speaker 1: a backstory here where you know, zimmers taking little shots
Speaker 1: at digs over the years. He once said they kind
Speaker 1: of have like, you know, a bunch of team guys
Speaker 1: in one celebrity that was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: They call, well, they had a different offense back then.
Speaker 1: You're right. I'm not defending. I'm just saying I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to explain for context, like he missed some O
Speaker 1: t as this offseason and then um, they're tight end
Speaker 1: you call them out maybe for not being there. There's
Speaker 1: been talking like I don't I want to be there
Speaker 1: for my teammates when Diggs miss some O t A stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's been it's been boiling there for a little while,
Speaker 1: and yet I'm not really that worried about it. And
Speaker 1: sometimes a little. It feels like a squeaky wheel. It's
Speaker 1: the grease game, and they do go bombs away on
Speaker 1: this Giant. And when no matter how frisky you think
Speaker 1: the Giants defenses. Now, when you're going from the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 1: who looked like they broke the Vikings last week, to
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, this is gonna feel like open prairie.
Speaker 1: They I think their offense is right, their defense is bad.
Speaker 1: They just played a preseason offense. But their front is
Speaker 1: okay at stopping the run. They're really big. I mean
Speaker 1: they're the only team that has like a two pound
Speaker 1: defensive end trying to brush the pastor which does not work.
Speaker 1: Uh So this is the game you should be throwing
Speaker 1: the ball, not doing the Zimmer plan. And so I'm
Speaker 1: a little worried about that. But I think the Vikings
Speaker 1: defense is solid. I think Danny Dimes is fun to watch,
Speaker 1: makes quick decisions, he's calm, but he's gonna give both
Speaker 1: teams a chance there. I mean we sort of over
Speaker 1: you know, look the fact that he could have thrown
Speaker 1: four first half interceptions a week ago, and this is
Speaker 1: a tough matchup. They had eleven drives and they scored
Speaker 1: seventeen points against the Redskins defense. That's not too impressive.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm gonna lock up of Vikings on
Speaker 1: the road. I like that. I like it solid luck.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean, you guys had me worried the
Speaker 1: things that things are falling. I mean, why you should
Speaker 1: wait on the Vikings and then not wait, and then
Speaker 1: wait and then not wait, and then wait and then
Speaker 1: not wait. There in eight and eight team, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna do this all season long. They're gonna be hanging
Speaker 1: around for a long time. But they're not at an
Speaker 1: eleven and five team. If they ever achieve that kind
Speaker 1: of a record, it's fraudulent. I'm not ready to give up.
Speaker 1: I know you're not. Why would it be fraudulent if
Speaker 1: they went eleven and five. I'm just saying it won't
Speaker 1: be what you get eleven and five teams that are
Speaker 1: not eleven win teams they have like if they can unseen,
Speaker 1: he says, them going nine and three of the rest
Speaker 1: of the way will be just luck. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I just think that the offensive line stuff going on,
Speaker 1: it's not something you fix necessarily. I guess my point is,
Speaker 1: like it's four games, so the idea that no team
Speaker 1: can make adjustments can improve I I think that this
Speaker 1: is the still a team that could pull things together
Speaker 1: as long as it doesn't crumble from within. My biggest
Speaker 1: concern is not so much the slow start. It's all
Speaker 1: this potentially anti Kirk Cousins stuff behind the scenes with
Speaker 1: their star wide receivers and how that can implode a
Speaker 1: locker rooms and they I mean, the whole thing that,
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins has a podcast is apologizing the feeling
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I don't know the whole not one
Speaker 1: I want from my quarterback, the whole Kirk Cousins thing
Speaker 1: from day one. I think part of the February part
Speaker 1: of the reason why people have picked on Kirk, I
Speaker 1: think is because he feels like the type of leader
Speaker 1: who's always reading books about how to be a leader.
Speaker 1: Think what I mean. I think that's a fair criticism.
Speaker 1: That's not unfair. That's fat and he's playing timid and
Speaker 1: football players don't like timid. West. This is a This
Speaker 1: is a great Mr irrelevant game. There's nothing irrelevant about
Speaker 1: this game. This is the game I wanted this like
Speaker 1: eight picks ago close it out. We got a Midwest
Speaker 1: game tratrol Grass. Yes, the Buffalo, but the Titans aren't
Speaker 1: pulling me back in yet. It's gonna take a long time.
Speaker 1: But the Bills never lost move this a Midwest. Titans
Speaker 1: are in the Midwest. Do you know where in Nashville is?
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't I hear what you're saying, but
Speaker 1: we never heard the na the Midwest too. No, I
Speaker 1: can't take this is getting ridiculous now, I just want
Speaker 1: it is the I hear what you're saying. It's it's
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the country. It's the work
Speaker 1: at a map. Greg. Here, here's the thing about the
Speaker 1: Midwest has two parts to it. It's got the mid
Speaker 1: you could argue that in some ways it's like middle
Speaker 1: upper down. But then there there is the West and
Speaker 1: it's in the eastern time zone, so it does not
Speaker 1: have it does not qualify for the western portion of
Speaker 1: the Red West. There is only a west where the
Speaker 1: mountains start and that geography changes. That's the western part
Speaker 1: of the United States. That's there is no like Iowa
Speaker 1: is west West. So there's the problem. The Census Bureau
Speaker 1: disagrees with you, but I understand. I know you don't
Speaker 1: cook at the geography of America. I'm just rolling that out. Ladies.
Speaker 1: Let's just take a second here, and let's just mark,
Speaker 1: let's just breathe for a second, right, everybody West taken in.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a ridiculous statement by West. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the weirdest hot take I've ever seen. It's
Speaker 1: not even a hot take. That Mountain Nashville is the
Speaker 1: West Mountain. Here's the map. I mean, it's much closer
Speaker 1: to the east than it is to the west. It's
Speaker 1: further west in Cincinnati, which I grew up. That's back
Speaker 1: on track here, we got all the maps out. This
Speaker 1: is this is outrageous. You think you think Titans, uh,
Speaker 1: you think Titans Bills is gonna top this argument for Tytoons.
Speaker 1: Tytoons are back and flying high west right now, and
Speaker 1: tell her little Wand's back. But here comes the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills and Tremaine Edmonds, another guy who has
Speaker 1: made to leap their middle linebacker. I find myself watching
Speaker 1: him every plane. Now. I still like this defense. I
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be playing. Is Josh Allen Plaine or not.
Speaker 1: He's still in concussion protocol out of think he's trending
Speaker 1: towards it, because when the concussion guys are practicing, that
Speaker 1: usually means they're through step four and then they officially
Speaker 1: passed step five Friday afternoon, So I think they're expecting
Speaker 1: him to play. I think that the unit I trust
Speaker 1: most in this game is the Buffalo Bills defense more
Speaker 1: than the Titans defense. I think they are a better
Speaker 1: version of the Titans defense. M I agree Matt if
Speaker 1: it is Matt Barkley, and it seems like the reporters
Speaker 1: are putting things closer to I do not like Buffalo's shot.
Speaker 1: I didn't like what I saw from that Barkley at all,
Speaker 1: and I know that was you want to talk a
Speaker 1: tough assignment. So it's kind of unfair to say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: he came into the middle of the game against arguably
Speaker 1: the best defense in football. But does he does he
Speaker 1: a guy that wins games on the road. No. I
Speaker 1: think he's a less less athletic Ryan Fitzpatrick, he'll throw
Speaker 1: the ball up. He has for ERA adjusted stats. He
Speaker 1: has the second highest interception rting history, behind Nathan Peter.
Speaker 1: He's worse than Josh Allen. Yes, but you know they're
Speaker 1: not winning the waiting. They're not waiting through quarterback play
Speaker 1: as it is. I mean, Josh, I don't think they
Speaker 1: were the best. You know, the Patriots defense wasn't the
Speaker 1: best defense, and on that field, the Bills defense right now,
Speaker 1: to me, is better it it. It totally shut down
Speaker 1: a vastly superior opposition last Sunday, and there's no weaknesses
Speaker 1: in that Bills defense. I think though it's easy to
Speaker 1: overlook the Titans defense, which has allowed twenty points only
Speaker 1: once all year. They absolutely made life a nightmare for
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan last week. They're getting pressure there. Every level
Speaker 1: has talent. They're at home in the Midwest to host
Speaker 1: the Bills here, so you know, a Bill's offensive, even
Speaker 1: with or without Josh Allen, cannot climb out of a
Speaker 1: deficit with explosive plays. They don't have that in their arsenal.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to run the ball a ton and
Speaker 1: run its successfully. I think there's a big advantage for
Speaker 1: the Titans, and I don't mean that that means that
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotto and A. A. J. Brown have to go off,
Speaker 1: which they seem to do once every third or fourth game.
Speaker 1: Looks like Evan Singletary will return which is big because they,
Speaker 1: like you said, they need playmakers. Although my boy, Frank Gore,
Speaker 1: we don't even talk about him anymore. We just take
Speaker 1: his greatness for granted. He's been over fifteen thousand yards
Speaker 1: some some big places last week, and Jordan Poyer and
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde might be there's some good safety tandems out
Speaker 1: there this year, but they are up there right now.
Speaker 1: Hide his ranked number one and be in PFF. There
Speaker 1: was a two play sequence in that Patriots game where
Speaker 1: Poyer just stuffed Sony Michelle. It was a total one
Speaker 1: on one matchup at the goal line at Michelle probably
Speaker 1: should have scored on and players stuffed him. And then
Speaker 1: the next play Hide confuses Tom Brady and picks him
Speaker 1: off in the end zone. Those two guys have been awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm watching you. Marcus Mariotta. You know you've had some
Speaker 1: moments this year so far. You have no turnovers zero
Speaker 1: through four games, your passer ratings over a hundred. You've
Speaker 1: had some shiny moments, you've had some not so shiny moments. Well,
Speaker 1: here's a nice little chance to make a statement, greg
Speaker 1: in your building against a defense everyone acknowledges is one
Speaker 1: of the NFL is best. Absolutely, take a name. What
Speaker 1: if it's I feel like the final score is gonna
Speaker 1: be thirteen to twelve no matter who wins. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what statement that would not be a statement.
Speaker 1: Those are pretty stats from Marcus Mariotta, and yet he
Speaker 1: feels entirely unremarkable in yankable for Ryan fits front Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill at any moment. So he does have those pretty stats.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on him? Dan, since you're monitoring him,
Speaker 1: I'm monitors, like, okay, you know what I'm I'm watching,
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I'm not ready to give up. The numbers
Speaker 1: are good right now. He needs to do it a
Speaker 1: lot more. Undeniably, the numbers are good. Is he passing
Speaker 1: the eye test is exactly enough? It was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you think you've made this big progress? Lights
Speaker 1: him up in the first half and then they don't
Speaker 1: score after halftime. That's kind of the tight career ranks
Speaker 1: through four weeks. Uh number one yards for attempt, seven touchdown,
Speaker 1: those no interceptions. A message message mentioned the passer rating
Speaker 1: his passing plus yardage per game. These are all career
Speaker 1: best ranks, so statistically, he's taking a step so far
Speaker 1: this season. Yet they are two and two with two
Speaker 1: really good performances and two really bad performances. So it's
Speaker 1: still you're kind of in the twilight throw pick when
Speaker 1: you just hold the ball and get sacked. The rear
Speaker 1: ranks means something different for Ryan Tannehill. In other quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: he has totals of nineteen thirteen and eleven touchdowns in
Speaker 1: other seasons. He has never been a great statistical quarterback,
Speaker 1: that is for sure. All Right, any other thoughts on
Speaker 1: this game was before we move up? Alright, let's hit
Speaker 1: Sunday night football. Indianapolis Colts traveling to Arrowheads Stadium to
Speaker 1: meet the Kansas City Chiefs. I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: game that Greg is gonna be really excited. And you're
Speaker 1: excited about all games, Greg, but this one. I think
Speaker 1: you think Jake Briscot is gonna step up and open
Speaker 1: some eyes here, don't. I think it's a great week
Speaker 1: of games. But you're I mean Raven, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: taking Raven Steelers Packers. Uh. The Monday night games amazing,
Speaker 1: Tampa say, there's a lot of great games, but the
Speaker 1: cults right now, you know something, if you look at PFF,
Speaker 1: depending on the scoring system, you use like they have
Speaker 1: a plus or minus rating. There are a team that's
Speaker 1: all right around zero. Like their defense, they're all right
Speaker 1: around zero. They're not They're all they're not gonna hurt you.
Speaker 1: They're not helping you that much. They're not putting a
Speaker 1: lot on the table there. They don't have playmakers on
Speaker 1: either side of the ball. When t Y Hilton has hurt,
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack is a little banged up. Should be playing today,
Speaker 1: it looks like on Sunday. So he returned to practice
Speaker 1: to practice, which which is huge. And Mac did finish
Speaker 1: out that game for the most part. Or they said
Speaker 1: it wasn't injury related, so that would give them a chance.
Speaker 1: Watching the Chiefs any week is exciting, but the Colts
Speaker 1: don't feel like they have a lot of firepower. I
Speaker 1: still like watching like I like what they're doing, but
Speaker 1: they're not as fun to watch as I was hoping.
Speaker 1: I mean that Raiders, they didn't move the ball very
Speaker 1: well through the air last week. The Colts, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. Definitely sensed no t Y Hilton playing
Speaker 1: a big role in brissette struggles. Marlon Mac Chiefs defense,
Speaker 1: he's playing. I think he's got a new injury, it's
Speaker 1: to his ankle, that offense goes for him. That's Kansas
Speaker 1: City at home on Sunday night, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: this is two different teams. But we're not that many
Speaker 1: months removed from Kansas City thumping the Cults big time
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Does do they match up well? And
Speaker 1: no one, No one matches up to their The Chief's
Speaker 1: offense to be just about not in And that's I
Speaker 1: guess that was my point. But to my point earlier,
Speaker 1: sometimes blow it's are fun to watch, and Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is fun to watch in prime time in just about
Speaker 1: any game. So it's even if it's not that close,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be fine. I do think the Chief's defense,
Speaker 1: despite being thirty their eighteenth and efficiency, some of that is.
Speaker 1: Some of that is, you know, there's a lot of possessions.
Speaker 1: Those games get up. They've played pretty good offensive opponents.
Speaker 1: I do think they're a little better overall. But Frank
Speaker 1: Clark has been a huge disappointment. That trade has been
Speaker 1: a disaster so far. Emmanuel Agba, who they signed for,
Speaker 1: you know, a fraction of them is playing a lot
Speaker 1: better than Frank Clarks. We just showed that play where
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey flipped the ball hook and ladder style to
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy and Marcus Grant said that was like jazz music,
Speaker 1: and the Chief's offense kind of is like that. It's
Speaker 1: when you're so fundamentally sound and having so much fun
Speaker 1: that your mind and body start to go outside and
Speaker 1: play a while. And you see that with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: They're just like, let's just start playing and having fun. Right,
Speaker 1: all these teams still in the in their preseason in September,
Speaker 1: The Chiefs were not in a preseason. I believe that
Speaker 1: play happened on the final touchdown drive as well. Right,
Speaker 1: it sounds right, have the double check that, but they Yeah,
Speaker 1: that show is just the looseness and confidence they played
Speaker 1: the way they played by the way not washed up.
Speaker 1: He looks fine. I'm not saying he's a game breaker,
Speaker 1: but he is getting five to five point three yards
Speaker 1: per carry. He's he's doing what he needs to do there.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to Monday night football. The Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns two and two after that great win in Baltimore. Well,
Speaker 1: now they hit the road to play the San Francisco
Speaker 1: warty Niners, who got that dreaded early by. But before
Speaker 1: that early By they had won all three of their games,
Speaker 1: their defense playing really well, and um Mark Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: had his way in and Nick Chubb had his way
Speaker 1: with the Ravens defense. That is trying to figure themselves
Speaker 1: out right now the Niners defense they have, they are
Speaker 1: not trying to figure themselves out. This is a good team.
Speaker 1: There's a great defense and a very fresh team coming
Speaker 1: off of by challenge. A totally different matchup in in
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. You know, after three games of everyone questioning
Speaker 1: everything about his play and is he actually the guy?
Speaker 1: And is he regressing? And can you read defenses looked
Speaker 1: better when Baltimore couldn't really put a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on him. He's still doing Baker Mayfield things. But now
Speaker 1: to me, you got the matchup of Cleveland's offensive line
Speaker 1: still still suspect against Nick Boscott, d Ford, Eric Armstead
Speaker 1: DeForrest Buckner. You've got Kwan Alexander in there. On the
Speaker 1: flip side, Jimmy g has to deal with Joe Staley
Speaker 1: offensive line going against Miles Garrett, Olivier, Vernon, Sheldon Richardson,
Speaker 1: Larry Ogunjobi. So I think this is one of these
Speaker 1: games that, barring something out of the ordinary, might be
Speaker 1: relatively low scoring if these two great defensive lines can
Speaker 1: keep the offenses in check. I believe in their their
Speaker 1: defensive line or defensive front the forty niners, But I
Speaker 1: think the rest of the team, we don't really know
Speaker 1: how good they are because they've beaten three teams with
Speaker 1: a combined two and eight record, and they've turned the
Speaker 1: ball over a ton on offense, just haven't paid for
Speaker 1: it yet five times against the Steelers. Yeah, they're one
Speaker 1: of those teams that we just have to see more.
Speaker 1: I mean we It's almost true for every team, including
Speaker 1: including the Browns. Like I didn't. I didn't come out
Speaker 1: of that game thinking they solved everything because they get
Speaker 1: four plays I think that combined for almost three hundred yards,
Speaker 1: and they were good. You know, they were good individual plays.
Speaker 1: They have the individual talent to just have a different
Speaker 1: guy pop off and dominate in any given week. And
Speaker 1: that's not a bad recipe, you know, if they can
Speaker 1: turn the play calling around. But it wasn't like an
Speaker 1: in rhythm. Hey we're just rolling on offense. But the
Speaker 1: defense is so consistent that you're right, Mark, Like I
Speaker 1: would be shocked if this game gets in the mid twenties,
Speaker 1: like I think this is in the teens. This is
Speaker 1: a defensive game. Turnover luck is a funny thing in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and the Services forty Niners are the ultimate example.
Speaker 1: They have seven turnovers through three games. They had seven
Speaker 1: all of the last season, and their defense is playing
Speaker 1: better this year, but a lot of that is just
Speaker 1: the way the ball bounces sometimes. That's something to keep
Speaker 1: in mind that they've had a nose for the ball,
Speaker 1: because that seems strangely to also then carry over as
Speaker 1: the season goes on. Uh. The other part of the
Speaker 1: game for them is their running game, which they have
Speaker 1: two guys in Brita and Rahim who are over five
Speaker 1: yards of carry breed to five and a half yards. Uh,
Speaker 1: most art is that any saying here? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: they were beating up the almost six yards and they
Speaker 1: are ranked they entered week four when they hit thereby
Speaker 1: ranked fourth in the league and rushing so they can
Speaker 1: run the football, the defense and get after it and
Speaker 1: it's just no matter then is Jimmy g gonna continue
Speaker 1: to make progress if that Happensastic fantastic. What a great
Speaker 1: Monday night game. Two teams that are have have a
Speaker 1: lot of little stars have good you know, intrigue, and
Speaker 1: you don't really know about Tevin Coleman's returning, so I
Speaker 1: think he'll get into that running back mix. Two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: who kind of have had similar ish seasons. I mean,
Speaker 1: Baker I think has played better, but you know where
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily processing super But you could say it's
Speaker 1: the most hyped quarterback of two off seasons ago, with
Speaker 1: Jimmy g Verse the most hyped quarterback of this past season,
Speaker 1: and Odell will all be on airplanes. One last one
Speaker 1: last note that Odell Beckham, who did not have a
Speaker 1: big role in last week's game, uh primetime game. Is
Speaker 1: this a perfect spot for him to blow up? Or
Speaker 1: is it a game where he kind of disappears a
Speaker 1: little bit? Would that start to become a storyline if
Speaker 1: Beckham is not a part of this offense, does he
Speaker 1: get disenfranchised? Servis Landry is in concussion protocol as of Thursday,
Speaker 1: so they might need o'della to play a bigger role regardless.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, all right, A little later tonight Thursday,
Speaker 1: you'll hear as I said earlier the Thursday night recap,
Speaker 1: and then Sunday we'll be back recapping all the games
Speaker 1: we just previewed. How about that it's just the wheel.
Speaker 1: The wheel goes round and round, Ricky, I'm I'm on
Speaker 1: the fence right now about whether we want to continue
Speaker 1: with you doing the personal snake sound drops or if
Speaker 1: we want to have something proper in there that shows
Speaker 1: some you know, dedication to the craft and all that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I can try to download another drop
Speaker 1: if you didn't like the one that I It's not
Speaker 1: that I don't like it, it's a principal thing. Maybe
Speaker 1: what do you guys think? I mean, it was what
Speaker 1: I upside, It was a little different each time because
Speaker 1: you were doing it on the spot, and I thought
Speaker 1: that she did an adequate We could have gotten someone
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Speaker 1: Spaghetti's producing our podcast when we get back from London,
Speaker 1: so we could give him a shot doing the big
Speaker 1: chair the snake snake sound Yeah. Um Like, like I said,
Speaker 1: you guys, I really appreciate the you know, positive criticism,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately I can only do what I'm given with
Speaker 1: our our library, So deductive criticism, Yeah, I appreciate it. Um.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't called positive. Well, you know, we love you.
Speaker 1: I'm from the Midwest, so I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: the difference West. One of your low moments in the
Speaker 1: history of the show. Please, how is it that I
Speaker 1: grew up in Cincinnati. The whole whole state of Ohio
Speaker 1: defines itself as Midwest. Nashville is more western than Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and yet you're telling me it's too far east here.
Speaker 1: This feels like something we should ask the people from Nashville.
Speaker 1: They should decide. Well, of course they're going to claim South.
Speaker 1: The Census Bureau is telling you, I don't care about
Speaker 1: the census. Well, they are an official government, man. You
Speaker 1: work for the post Office. You respect the government, our
Speaker 1: government lately, all right, I got it before we signed
Speaker 1: one moment. I mean you're telling that, yeah, the bright,
Speaker 1: happy people from Nashville that you know better for them
Speaker 1: than they. First of all, you haven't even heard from
Speaker 1: them yet. They're going to claim the South because of
Speaker 1: everything about the heritage. You know, we lost the Civil War,
Speaker 1: but we still like to think we're from the South
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But they're in Tornado Alley, They're
Speaker 1: right there in the Midwest. Um, what's a different geographic location.
Speaker 1: That's Tornado Alley. We're not talking about Tornado Alley is
Speaker 1: in the Midwest. Program note. Uh cool. Note for the
Speaker 1: youth and flag football enthusiasts out there, reigning Champs named
Speaker 1: official operator of NFL Flag. Does anybody know what that means?
Speaker 1: There's a really cool graphic. The NFL is named reigning
Speaker 1: Champs official operating partner of NFL Flag in January of
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. There you go, thanks guys, something to look
Speaker 1: forward to. What is raining Champs? It's the name of
Speaker 1: the Company's the name of the company. I I guess,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that announcement. They not you know
Speaker 1: what that means? Well, oh well, apparently we're all gonna
Speaker 1: be fired for blowing this. No, no, it's a cool thing.
Speaker 1: So congratulations to the reigning champs. All right? Uh Dan
Speaker 1: has a signing off for a quiet storm and the mailman,
Speaker 1: the old Boss Ricky Hollywood, Jason climbing back behind the
Speaker 1: glass one show only and everybody else. Thank you guys,
Speaker 1: U til Sunday night. M