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Speaker 1: the best shot that I've seen Old miss set to

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Speaker 1: have in a long time. Now, before I get to

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Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze, I wanted to talk to you about one thing.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked us several weeks ago, candidly, which of these

431
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Speaker 1: Saturdays this fall could be the big volcanic upset Saturday?

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Speaker 1: And I meant to talk about it, and I didn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, scratch that. That's probably on Jesse more so

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Speaker 1: than me. I'm mainly interested in the credit. So Jesse

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Speaker 1: take the blame, take it proudly. But we are talking

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Speaker 1: about it tonight. The Volcanic Saturday is a staple of

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Speaker 1: college football. That's where you wake up at ten am

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Speaker 1: and think you have it all figured out, and by

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Speaker 1: the time the dust settles at sundown, you may have

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Speaker 1: lost a lot of money, but at the very least

441
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Speaker 1: you're totally disheveled. You can't believe what just happened. Wow,

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Speaker 1: upsets all over the place every timeframe. Well, that didn't

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Speaker 1: happen last year, which is ironic because it was a

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Speaker 1: very relatively speaking, competitively condensed year. I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams in play. We just didn't get

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Speaker 1: the volcanic Saturday. Well, where could that come this year?

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Speaker 1: I've got four candidates for you Week one. You may

448
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Speaker 1: not have to wait long. It would be fitting actually

449
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Speaker 1: if Week one shows to just go off the rails.

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Speaker 1: So to close the weekend, we have Southern col versus

451
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Speaker 1: LSU in Las Vegas. That's the Sunday night game. But

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Speaker 1: before that, you realize Miami opens at Florida. You could

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Speaker 1: cut the tension with a McDonald's plastic knife. That's how thick.

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Speaker 1: It'll be humidity as well, but it'll be really really

455
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Speaker 1: touch and go for whoever loses that. When Georgia plays

456
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Speaker 1: Clemson in Atlanta, so you'll find a lot out about

457
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Speaker 1: that Georgia defensive line. You'll find a lot out about

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Speaker 1: that Clemson wide receiver core, for example, in the offense.

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Speaker 1: In general. Notre Dame opens at Texas A and M.

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Speaker 1: That's a helmet game. That's a beautiful matchup. And bless

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Speaker 1: the fine folks Notre Dame for going on the road

462
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Speaker 1: in an environment like that. In Week one. You know,

463
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame never plays anyone except they do every year.

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Speaker 1: So that's also Penn State plays West Virginia in Week one.

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Speaker 1: I'll just leave this there. What if West Virginia pulls

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Speaker 1: that one out they were doubted last year and overcame

467
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Speaker 1: and overachieve. What if they started this year with a

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Speaker 1: win over Penn State. I'll leave that with you there.

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Speaker 1: We move on to Week nine. Not that craziness couldn't

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Speaker 1: befall the sport between week one and week nine, but

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Speaker 1: week nine is pretty loading, and if you ask me

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Speaker 1: where we're going to be this week, I have no clue.

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Speaker 1: Missouri at Alabama. Keep in mind this is week nine,

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Speaker 1: so is Bama an undefeated team? A two loss team

475
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Speaker 1: same with Missouri, could be a playoff dark horse contender.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma's at Old Miss that day, LSU at Texas A

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Speaker 1: and m is that day. Florida State at Miami is

478
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Speaker 1: on this day. I think it should bear close watching that.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska's at Ohio State I will be paying attention to,

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Speaker 1: Like West Virginia at Arizona. That could be a phenomenal

481
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Speaker 1: game because, as you know, the Big Twelve I have

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Speaker 1: decreed to be America's college football conference in twenty twenty four,

483
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Speaker 1: So there would be a lot of very, very balanced

484
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Speaker 1: and competitive games every week out there. What about Week

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Speaker 1: eleven two weeks later, that's Bama at LSU. Week that's

486
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma at Missouri. That is Georgia on the road at

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Speaker 1: Ole miss That's one of the bigger games in the

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Speaker 1: Grove in recent memory, and especially if those records hold

489
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Speaker 1: up there. Then you got Florida at Texas on this

490
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Speaker 1: same day, You've got Washington at Penn State. Have no

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Speaker 1: clue what Washington's going to be this year, but if

492
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Speaker 1: they're better than expected, imagine them going into Happy Valley.

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Speaker 1: What's Penn State by that point. By the way, Clemson

494
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Speaker 1: is at Virginia Tech on this day. FSU is at

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame on this day that as of now, may

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Speaker 1: be the only game that Florida State is a point

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Speaker 1: spread underdog in the entire year. We'll see how that

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Speaker 1: plays out. And then a few weeks later, of course,

499
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Speaker 1: we have rivalry weekend. That is Week fourteen, that is

500
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week, you get the Iron Bowl going down in Tuscaloosa.

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Speaker 1: You've got Florida at Florida State. And then at the

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Speaker 1: same time, Oklahoma is closing their season on the road

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Speaker 1: at LSU. Oh, you know what, I'm going to get

504
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Speaker 1: back to this one in a second. We've got Michigan

505
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. But do you realize Texas, Texas A and

506
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Speaker 1: M cranks back up. I will say this, We're going

507
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Speaker 1: to have some charged environments this fall. We always do

508
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Speaker 1: college football as the greatest sport on the face of

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Speaker 1: the earth. Because of that, I challenge you to find

510
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Speaker 1: me an environment that will be more electric in twenty

511
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Speaker 1: twenty four than Kyle Field when Texas comes to town.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be some tough decisions to be made

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Speaker 1: on our end because there are like, honestly three or

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Speaker 1: four games on this weekend that I would circle, but

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Speaker 1: we can't be at more than one, or can we

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Speaker 1: at net Jets, But we really struggle to be at

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Speaker 1: more than two, let me put it that way. And

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519
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Speaker 1: gets left out, but Texas at Texas A and M.

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Speaker 1: How delicious is that? Washington's at Oregon that day? Notre

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Speaker 1: Dames at USC. These are games we couldn't even fit

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Speaker 1: as you know, I like to kind of fade out.

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Speaker 1: There's no sense in us talking to Freeze for twenty

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Speaker 1: five minutes and then come in back for me to

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570
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Speaker 1: tell you goodbye now. I'm going to tell you we'll

571
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Speaker 1: be live Sunday night, and I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 1: thank you to our crew here and our crew down

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Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale. And I'm going to toss it now

574
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Speaker 1: to our sit down earlier today with Auburn head coach

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Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze. Take a listen. So I allegedly live in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen Nashville in weeks. When's the last time

577
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Speaker 1: you saw Nashville. I was there last night. It was men.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about Chiefs being open on Broadway. Eric Church

579
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Speaker 3: a good friend, and Jill and I went up to

580
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Speaker 3: be a part of that celebration. And so Nashville changing

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Speaker 3: and change. I mean people are everywhere there. It's a

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Speaker 3: crowded crowded place, but a lot happening, it seems for

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Speaker 3: those that live there.

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Speaker 2: But we like going to Nashville, but it was a

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Speaker 2: late night for us, and I.

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Speaker 1: Don't like those. So we were here last year. Last

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Speaker 1: year year. Once in the books, everyone knows what happened.

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Speaker 1: I have no clue what's going to happen to this fall.

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Speaker 1: If you know, I'd love you to tell me. But

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Speaker 1: I do know. It feels a little bit more relaxed

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Speaker 1: maybe than it did last year, But that's me. How

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Speaker 1: do you feel in year two?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely for me, I'm more at ease with

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Speaker 3: and comfortable, I would say, with where we're headed. And

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Speaker 3: I was a little I've said this a lot of places,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want this to sound as as negative

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Speaker 3: towards any one, because ultimately everything falls in my lap

598
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Speaker 3: and I owned that, but it just the chemistry was

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Speaker 3: not exactly the way I wanted it to be. And

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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean people are are good or bad or anything.

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Speaker 3: It just it was I've kind of in my mind

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Speaker 3: got the band back together a little bit, and there's

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Speaker 3: just a comfort level with that for me, and getting

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Speaker 3: the offense back to the terminology that I'm very comfortable

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Speaker 3: with also bring.

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Speaker 1: Some of that.

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Speaker 3: And then DJ Durkins energy has really and and.

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Speaker 1: He's so detailed.

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Speaker 3: He and Charles Kelly have brought a chemistry over there

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Speaker 3: that and we were really good.

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Speaker 1: On defense at times.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Run is one of the best game day callers

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Speaker 3: I've I've been with, and but that energy that they've

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Speaker 3: brought has made me feel more at peace too. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know that that means anymore to

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Speaker 3: win column or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: When you know, we're still a little short on the

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Speaker 3: roster in my mind of where we need to be.

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Speaker 3: We're headed in the right direction for sure, But I

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Speaker 3: love the I've loved the attitude and the energy and

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Speaker 3: the passion that they brought the spring practice, and the

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Speaker 3: players have really responded well to that.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you're midway through a season. I don't know

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Speaker 1: when you started to feel whatever you felt like year,

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Speaker 1: but let's let's say you're in a season and it

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Speaker 1: could be a Tuesday practice, it could be third quarter

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Speaker 1: of a game, whatever it is. If you just realize I

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Speaker 1: do not have something like chemistry where I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be on this team, you certainly can't address it wholesale

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Speaker 1: that week, But what is that realization like? And then

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Speaker 1: you try and hold it together and you try and

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Speaker 1: get to the finish line as best you can. But

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Speaker 1: how much can you do in the moment versus how

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Speaker 1: much you say, December January, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's that's truthfully, the first time I've gone

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Speaker 3: through something that I felt some of that, and I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure I know how to properly address it immediately

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Speaker 3: because we had good men and good people in the building,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you want to treat people right, and

641
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Speaker 3: you know, that was that was difficult, and it was

642
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: it was it was hard. And I'm not saying that

643
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: you know, we we were what we were last year,

644
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: and I don't know that it produces anymore wins or not.

645
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: Obviously we should beat Alabama, I think, you know, but.

646
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: The the the level that we played at, our lack

647
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 4: thereof in some games was just concerning to me.

648
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: That we just I didn't think we you know, the

649
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: expectation of how we.

650
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: Prepare to compete and compete every.

651
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: Single game just didn't feel like And look, that's that's

652
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: not just on coaches. That's the team's got to own

653
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: that too the leadership of the team, and so trying

654
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: to figure all of that out was challenging for sure.

655
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: How accountable do you feel like you're building is because

656
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: when you're talking about it not all being on one group,

657
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: it's on the collective. Well, that means coaches got to

658
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: suck it up and buy the bullet and lift themselves

659
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: in the mirror. It means players do, I mean everyone,

660
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: does you feel like you got the accountability you need

661
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: in the building.

662
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 3: It's definitely trending the right direction. When I came back

663
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: in January after the bowl game, I think I have

664
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: to first look at myself and I need to be

665
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 3: a better listener. And so I set the culture council

666
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: down the twelve guys that the team is elected, and

667
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to take a step back and

668
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: I want you guys to come up with the standard

669
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 3: you want for this team. Now, I'm not saying I'll

670
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: agree with all of it. I'm still but maybe I'm

671
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: too old school. Maybe some of my thinking is that

672
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: needs to change and we're in a new day and

673
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: era in college football. And so I want you guys

674
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: to sit in a room and come up.

675
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: Man.

676
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: I mean when I say a standard, I want what

677
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: a locker should look like, to what is on time

678
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: for us? What the whole deal training table? What do

679
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: you want from the training table? Because you know, maybe me.

680
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: Getting frustrated that somebody's.

681
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: Not there every I want them there three times a day,

682
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: you know, or all right, if you don't want that,

683
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: that's if that's not the standard, you know, just everything.

684
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: And boy, they presented it to me, and then not

685
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: only do you present me the standard, but what does

686
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: the accountability look like if if somebody chooses not to

687
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: meet the standard?

688
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: I mean, what what does that look like?

689
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: Because if if we're just gonna put the standards down

690
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: and not be accountable, they're really worthless. And boy, they

691
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 3: had a great presentation. I agreed with almost every single thing.

692
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: They convinced me to change a little.

693
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Bit in some areas.

694
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: And then we presented it to the whole team and said, hey,

695
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: speak now, forever hold your peace, but this is what

696
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: we're saying.

697
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: The standards are.

698
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: And now it's player led and the accountabilities player.

699
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: Led, and.

700
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: We're we're we're at a pretty good percentage of the

701
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: standard being met. We're batting one hundred on holding them

702
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: accountable if they don't, And I think that's life, and

703
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: so I'm really pleased with where that's trending.

704
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: A lot of new head coaches, if I look at them,

705
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: I'll say, boy, what a time to be a new

706
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: head coach. So much is changing about the sport and

707
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: you got thrown in the middle of it. And I

708
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: think that's accurate. But at the same time, what about

709
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: guys like you who have been around a while and

710
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: so you may have gotten used to a generation and

711
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: then things change and they're in the process of changing

712
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: as we speak. I have no clue what twenty twenty

713
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: seven will even look like. How much of not your

714
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: core philosophy Those things normally stay the same, but maybe

715
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: they don't. But how much how much have you had

716
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: to really really redefine about the parts of you that

717
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen years ago you thought would never have to change.

718
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's probably easier on the first time

719
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: head coach that hasn't.

720
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: Done it, but you know, the guys that have done

721
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: it a while.

722
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: In our conversations, it's we're all battling the same internal

723
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: battles of you know, most of us got into coaching

724
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: for a transformative work and not only the lives of

725
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: our young men, the lives of our staff and the

726
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: live of our program for all the fans, which does

727
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: hopefully look like winning. And the challenge I have is

728
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to start feeling like it's transactional. And

729
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: that's the battle, and it really can steal your joy

730
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: if so. My wife has made me promise that twenty

731
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: twenty four, there is no more complaining about the new

732
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: college football world. Zero to her anyway, She don't want

733
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: to hear it. And when I say I'm not against

734
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: some of the things that I think players should have

735
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: access to be blessed with financial things because of all

736
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: of that our sport produces. For that, the lack of

737
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: structure drives me crazy. And it's just managing an eighty

738
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: five man roster right now, which that's for us that

739
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: have done it. Man, it was pretty easy to manage

740
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: your eighty five man roster. Now it's I have no

741
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: idea how to do it, and I don't think anyone

742
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: does because you, I mean, it's going to change.

743
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: Again here in a minute.

744
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: What April fifteenth and the portal opens again, and.

745
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?

746
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: And it's just.

747
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

748
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 3: I've always I really feel like one of my strong

749
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: suits was always building a culture that ultimately was going

750
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: to win. And I guess the scary thing to me

751
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: is does my way still work.

752
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: Doing it that way?

753
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 3: Because and I've been the first to say I would

754
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: love to continue to build this program through high school recruiting,

755
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: and we kind of proved that in twenty four we

756
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: stayed strong to it.

757
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: We didn't sign many Poortle kids at all.

758
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: Now we signed a really good class and you'll see

759
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: him at practice today.

760
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: I think they're all very gifted.

761
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: Do they stay with us and allow us to you know,

762
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: build a program? And does our culture win them over

763
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: to stay in that? And those are all the things

764
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: that keep you up at night that you just kind

765
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 3: of wonder, you know, does does your way still work?

766
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: And it can it still be transformative and not just transactional.

767
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

768
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: If I answered your question. It's just it's a lot

769
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: of challenges.

770
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 1: We were with Mack Brown up in North Carolina last

771
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: week and he now, granted he walks in fresh off

772
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: of coaches meetings, so he had a lot to say. Yeah,

773
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: but he said, you know, I think one of the faults.

774
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: If we could look in the review mirror, is people

775
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: who have some answers stepped back when things started to change,

776
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: and all we did when we step back is we

777
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: let the wrong people put the hands on the wheel.

778
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: He said. I think one of the biggest things I

779
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: feel right now is a willingness for folks who always

780
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: probably should have had their hands on the wheel to

781
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: roll their sleeves up, get folks who don't need to

782
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: be in the way out of the way, and maybe

783
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: get the thing right, which is a multifaceted statement. And

784
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: it's not an overnight thing. But you get to advantage

785
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: point that we don't get. You get in meetings that

786
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: we don't get to be in and have conversations. We

787
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: don't get to be privy to. No one's crazy about

788
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: how things are right now. When you look out in

789
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: the future, is there something you see on the horizon

790
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: or is it just is what it is?

791
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: I have no clue, and I asked that question often

792
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: everybody will you know, in the administrative world, will give

793
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: you the answer.

794
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: We feel like something's got to change.

795
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: Well, we sure hope so, but no one has really

796
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: said here is the answers, Like when we went to

797
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 3: DC to meet with you know, all of the legislation there,

798
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: and everybody sits in a room and we look at

799
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: each other and and and it's not that they're not trying,

800
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 3: but they're they're looking us or what is the answer.

801
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: I don't know that any of us really have the

802
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: exact answer that's going to please everyone. And I don't

803
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: know that you can reverse some of the things, but

804
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: we do have to find a way to get some

805
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: structure around it, in my opinion, whether it's bringing the

806
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: collectives in house and saying this is like the NFL

807
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 3: has done and there's a collective bargaining structure, particularly for

808
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: you know, the biggest the biggest struggle I think.

809
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: For most of us coaches that are.

810
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: Older, particularly is the locker room.

811
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 3: Where you know, you can have guys that can get

812
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: a collective deal that is a lot more than the

813
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: starter and junior or senior, and that's challenging, and that's difficult,

814
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: and man, you know, when you're out recruiting and they're trying,

815
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: and man that it's just very challenging when there's so

816
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: many players involved in it and you want to get

817
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 3: the players for Auburn University that are the best players,

818
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of challenges that come with that.

819
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: When you guys wrapped your Bowl game, you start looking

820
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: ahead towards next year. You started talking about the quarterback

821
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: competition for the next year. And now we're at spring

822
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: and you've sort of correct me if I'm wrong here,

823
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: because I'm not on the beat every day, But you've

824
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: talked about Peyton Thorn and you've said that's QB one

825
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: right there, that's the guy who is in that driver's

826
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: seat for now. The phrasing sounded a little bit different

827
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: to me from post Bowl game to now. So tell

828
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: me if anything changed behind the scenes, what changed, and

829
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: then what have you seen from him? And how does

830
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: his role change with the rest of the changes that

831
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: you've made in the offense.

832
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had his best the last two weeks. He's

833
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: been really, really solid and impressive. He is in the

834
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: driver's seat. I don't think it's prudent of me to

835
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: say today that it's totally his, because I want Hank

836
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: and Holding and even Walker.

837
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: To continue to try to compete for it.

838
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: But I do think it's going to be hard to

839
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: probably unseed him, at the at least for the.

840
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: Start of the year and then it's his to do

841
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: with what he can.

842
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: Hopefully we have better pieces around him that'll enable him

843
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: to have a better year. I mean, the guy was

844
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: pretty dang good at Michigan State when he had two

845
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: NFL receivers, and you know, hopefully we can you know,

846
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: put better peace around him in a system that maybe

847
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: he's more comfortable with. He loves what we're doing right

848
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: now and I think he's excelling at it. We got

849
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 3: to continue to get more players around him. But I've

850
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: been really pleased with his spring. But Hank and Holden

851
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: have had really good springs too. Walker is incredibly talented,

852
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: but you know, he's just a high school.

853
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: Senior and he's learning, and they're you know.

854
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: DJ Dirks is throwing a lot at him, and he

855
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: and he and he, but he's love everything about him

856
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: and his leadership quality. But Peyton's had a really solid

857
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: spring and it's definitely in that driver's seat.

858
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: So I was walking down the hallway, you guys were

859
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: walking into a team meeting, and I'm asking folks, who's that,

860
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Who's that, Who's that? And every one of them I

861
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: keep pointing out from an impressive like physical standpoint, I

862
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: keep hearing as freshman seventeen, he's about to be eighteen.

863
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: How many of these guys, as much as you can

864
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: say in spring, are going to play meeting for football

865
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: for you this year.

866
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: More than I desire. But they're gonna have to. And

867
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: I do think they're really talented kids. But you know,

868
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 3: are they ready to step into the SEC and play.

869
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: Maybe not, but they're gonna have to and we'll we'll

870
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: see how they do. I mean, the cam Colwans of

871
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: the world, or He's been really impressive in spring, but

872
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: you know, Amars, Williams and Waller at defensive ends are

873
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: going to have to play some They're going to give

874
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: us some minutes for sure. Some inside guys the DBS,

875
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: I think are talented, the young ones, you know, but

876
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 3: some of them are gonna have to play for sure.

877
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 3: And heck, our kicker Towns is God, he's you know,

878
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: we got a good kicker coming back. He hadn't practiced

879
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: a spring because he's got an injury.

880
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: But Towns has got a leg off the off the charts. Now,

881
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: when you I mean you've had different kinds of teams.

882
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: You've had some that are veteran senior laden you've had

883
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: sometimes maybe not quite like now, but like now, where

884
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: you've known in spring we're going to go as far

885
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: as some of these true freshmen or first year starters

886
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: can carry us. When you start training a team's mentality

887
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: in spring and you start making sure it's hammered into

888
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: your coaches heads in spring, that's the way it's got

889
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: to be. How much different of a lift is it

890
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: when you know you're counting on younger guys as opposed

891
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: to returning starters kind of a player led team already,

892
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: How different a lift is, how different a mentality is that?

893
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: As a coach, I think we needed that here, really.

894
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 3: I think we needed to kind of hit the restart

895
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 3: button with you know, some guys that were maybe fresher

896
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: to Auburn than some and didn't have set ways of

897
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: doing things.

898
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: And I love the.

899
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 3: Way we've kind of set this accountability with this young

900
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: class and I'm anxious to see what they do. So

901
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: I do think that it's something we kind of needed here,

902
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: And I do believe though you know, we all know

903
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: how everybody.

904
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: Wants it now, and you know I do too, But I'm.

905
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 3: Also realistic and I think we can build something special

906
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: here again, Aubun's done it before, I think you can

907
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: do it.

908
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: But what I do think everybody.

909
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: Has to understand, especially those young freshmen, is failure is.

910
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: A myth.

911
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: If handled right, it's just really not accurate. It's a

912
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: bad way to look at things. And so I've really

913
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 3: tried this whole spring to explain to them the process

914
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 3: to success, the cycle of success is you get tested,

915
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 3: you fail, you learn, you improve, and you re enter.

916
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: And that's how you handle failure. And we're going to

917
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: fail some, you're going to fail some. You know, I

918
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: probably call more bad plays than I call good ones

919
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: over my career.

920
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: You know that doesn't.

921
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan played fifteen years, won six championships, the other

922
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: nine we're a failure, no, But it's just the success.

923
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: The cycle of success is always man, test, fail, learn, improve,

924
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: re enter. And so we've been drilling that hard for

925
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: them because you know, as well.

926
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: As I, as soon as.

927
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: You're going to go build up cam Coleman, I build

928
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: up Cam Coleman. And as soon as he doesn't perform

929
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: on a game to that level, all the voices in

930
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: the social media where will tell him how awfully was that?

931
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: Well that's the wrong voice to listen to. You need

932
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: to listen to this voice test failed learned improve re enter.

933
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: So we're going to that's our approach with this talented

934
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Speaker 3: twenty four class.

935
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned that April fifteenth day, which everyone already hates

936
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: because it's tax day, and now all of a sudden

937
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: it's portal data as well. So like, God bless every

938
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: one of you guys, how weird is it in the

939
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: new age? I'll kind of get you out of here

940
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: on this. How weird is it? When an old school

941
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: perspective was you pretty much know who your team is

942
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: in the spring How weird is it to know there

943
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: is an exit door and an entry door that's after springball.

944
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: The next thing you do is break fall camp, and

945
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: your team could in some ways fundamentally alter and then

946
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: copy paste that for everyone. Like how different is that?

947
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: It's incredibly uncomfortable and different And that's not what you

948
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: know I was used to, And I think I've got

949
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: to embrace it. I was talking to Drink of Which

950
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: last night, and I think he's.

951
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Done a great job of embracing it.

952
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: And I've got to become more like that and just say,

953
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 3: you know what, I can't change it, So I've got

954
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: to embrace it.

955
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: I don't.

956
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Speaker 3: It's uncomfortable to me to recruit a person for twenty

957
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: four hours, it really is. That's you know, I'd like

958
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: to have the year and a half where I know,

959
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: I really think I know who I'm getting, and but

960
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: that's not the way we'll be come April fifteenth. You're gonna,

961
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 3: you know, we're going to have some exit here, I'm sure,

962
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 3: and we'll be looking to try to add some. So

963
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: it's I've got to embrace it. You got a lot

964
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: on your play.

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