1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: hit any shot I kind of want. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Pink proven Grounds Podcast. 7 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Shane Bacon, Marty Jerts, and we got Tristan Lawrence with 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: us for the first time. And before we get into golf, 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: I think we got to talk about the most important thing. 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: We were just talking about fishing before we got going. 11 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Would you say fishing's number one passion over golf right 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: now in your life? 13 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: Definitely, you love it. I think golf is all be 14 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: at the moment for me, especially when I'm back home. 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: You know, don't tend to play a lot of golf 16 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: back home, so golf is definitely saken when I'm home. 17 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: But over obviously golf is golf is pretty ority. But yeah, 18 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: fishing is amazing. 19 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean is like, I mean, golf's the job. 20 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean, golf is what you do for a living. 21 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Did you get into fishing as a kid. Was this 22 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: something you just recently got into or have you always 23 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: kind of been into it. 24 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, said my father loved golf fishing so always always, 25 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: as I can remember as a you know, always went 26 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: into lakes and we had cold fishing and always had 27 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: a bass road you know involved, so you know, I 28 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: would catch myself just standing in the water and just casting, 29 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: casting away. So it's always been a thing that I 30 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: remember as a kid. And then obviously when you travel, 31 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: you need to try and find a hobby out there 32 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: when you're traveling, and I just thought, you know, fishing 33 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: is the perfect example. 34 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: You know, if I play in the morning. 35 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: After practice in afternoon, I can go fish for a 36 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: couple of hours and it gets my mind away from 37 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: from golf, you know. 38 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: So it's yeah, I just love it. 39 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Marty, I think about like yelping a restaurant 40 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: when you're on the road and I see Tristan, Like 41 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: what lake is near the golf where I go? Is 42 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: that something you're doing? Like researchers, you're going to a 43 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: new place. 44 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: Definitely. 45 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: When we arrived here on Monday, check straight away if 46 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: there's a bass pro shop. So we went there on 47 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: Tuesday morning, got myself to your rods and everywhere with 48 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: there's water, there's a there's a chance to maybe catch 49 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: my baby. 50 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's amazing. 51 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: What does the travel look like for I mean, I 52 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: know you just picked up a ride in the past 53 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: pro shops, but what does the travel look like? Do 54 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: you get a do you get a ride you can 55 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: break down, put in your in your golf bag. 56 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 57 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: So I actually find myself buying a new one every year. 58 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: I've got like two three piece rods back home that 59 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: I can travel with, but just thought, you know, it's 60 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: admin to travel with it and whatever. And then because 61 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: I played in to buy my first tournament, so I'm 62 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: not going to fish there, so I just thought, I'll 63 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: I'll get myself a new one. Yeah, but then managed 64 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: to buy two so but overweight. But yeah, definitely the 65 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: ride always needs to be in play wherever I go. 66 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Definitely got to be there. Can you take us back 67 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: to the Open last year, because obviously I think that 68 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: was when you really burst on the scene for kind 69 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: of worldwide golf fans. What was that week like? What 70 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: was it like kind of sitting on the lead, obviously 71 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: competing against some of the best players in the world 72 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: in that level of an environment, and as you look 73 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: back on it like would you do great that week? 74 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: And what did you? Could you have kind of maybe 75 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: buttoned up towards the end. 76 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an amazing week. 77 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: You know, that final round in the final group of 78 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: the Open Championship is just point to dream come true 79 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: for me. 80 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 4: But you know, arriving there, it's a normal tournament. 81 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: It's a Lynx golf course where I I've won before 82 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: on in South Africa, in England. You know, my first 83 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: ever amateur event was the Lettam Trophy in England and 84 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: I won that, so very you know, familiar with Lyn's 85 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: golf and you know, I think. 86 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 4: It's it's a sort of golf I like, you. 87 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: Know, there's no perfect picture when it comes to Lynch. 88 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: You know, I was probably the only guy that did 89 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: drive on almost every hole that week, So I just 90 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: feel like there's there's so many ways to play, not 91 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: just that golf course, but any Links golf course. So 92 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: I just felt comfortable when I arrived there. You know, 93 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: the golf was fairly good. You know, mister cut the 94 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: Scottish Open the week before, but unfortunate made Boguan the 95 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: last smester cut by one. But golf always felt good 96 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: and like I said, I love Lynks Golf and just 97 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: just the way I stay patient that week, you know, 98 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: not lways to help people. It's still just a normal 99 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: golf tournament, you know. Whether it's a major or waste 100 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: management or a sunshine to a tournament, it's a tournament. 101 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: I want to win. 102 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: I want to compete, and yeah, it never got to 103 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: my head that it's bigger than what it actually is. 104 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: And I think that's why I managed to stay patient 105 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: and do well. 106 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: It's playing in those elements, you know, or the weather, 107 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: wind conditions, something you enjoy. You feel like you have 108 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: an advantage in those conditions. 109 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: Definitely. You know, I'm not your stock standard stock shape guy. 110 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: You know. 111 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: I like to work it and I feel like when 112 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: there's something in the air, I can make it happen. 113 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: I feel like I've got the all round game to 114 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: eat a lot of different shots. And I mean, I'm 115 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: not too used to rain, so that was it's never 116 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: fun when it's raining, But when it comes to win 117 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: and stuff, I know how to manage myself. And yeah, 118 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: I've played in all types of conditions, so definitely gave me, 119 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: especially playing in Europe where you can get if you're 120 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: playing Denmark. It could either be twenty degree celsius or 121 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: maybe zero the next day. 122 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: It can changed so quickly. 123 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: So that's where I think it also helped me that week. 124 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: You're iron player. You mentioned shot shapping. What about on 125 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: a conditions when it's calm, You got left pins right pins? 126 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: Are you the type of player that hits your stock 127 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: ball flight in there? Are you curving it into left 128 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: pins and right pens? 129 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: I would say depends on firmness of greens, you know, 130 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: slope and stuff. This week it's not firm firm, but 131 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: it's not soft, and there is a couple of slopes 132 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: you can work it from, So it all depends on 133 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: the golf course. 134 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: I never tend to do the same thing every week. 135 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: Whatever I see in front of me that instance, I 136 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: try and figure out what's base for me and what 137 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: I feel comfortable with. 138 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: I've never been a. 139 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: Guy that just say, okay, this is your stock a 140 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: tie and you need to stand like this. Nothing is 141 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: ever flat out there. It's flat as the driving range 142 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: and that sort of confuses me. So I just trying 143 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: to get comfortable over it, because that's when I know 144 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to be at my base committed through a 145 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: shot to be comfortable. But I mean, I can, I 146 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: can hit it high, I can eat it low, I 147 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: can I can feel like I can spin it whenever 148 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: I want to. So, I mean, when it's calm and 149 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: you feel like you're playing in a dome, I'll be 150 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: very aggressive and try not to eat much shape. 151 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: Trust. 152 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: And one thing at the Open that got a lot 153 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: of attention was the length of your driver. And I 154 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: always I'm kind of a proponent in general of players 155 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: playing a little bit longer drivers. And we've seen a 156 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: lot of our tour players go a little longer with 157 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: our drivers being more forgiving and and just the premium 158 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: on distance over accuracy. Your driver length is forty three 159 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: and three quarters, I think somewhere in that neighborhood. How 160 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: did that come to be? And what advantage do you 161 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: think that that gives you playing a little shorter length 162 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: than most. 163 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, once again, being comfortable over it, like I always 164 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: felt like short Like ladies golf clubs, for instance, if 165 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: I have to take a lady's driver, it feels unbelievable. 166 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: Like the shorter the better it just my body feels 167 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: like it's in a good position over the ball and 168 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: that's the most important thing for me is being confident 169 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: and comfortable over the golf ball. So I mean I 170 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: was very short when I was young. I only stretched up, 171 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: you know, probably when I went to high school I 172 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: got a bit taller, but so always short. I have 173 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: a short drive, and then when I got tall, I 174 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: just sticked to the short to drive. 175 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: It felt like I say, comfortable. 176 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: That's my main thing in golf is to be comfortable, 177 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: because I mean it's never perfect. 178 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: You can't be perfect in this game. 179 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: But if you're comfortable and you commit it over it, 180 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: it's just going to make it mentally much better. 181 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 4: I think share. 182 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: I just think that's a great case for custom fitting Shane, 183 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: and why it's so important to bring in the X 184 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: factor of your comfort level. 185 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think about linked like you play longer. 186 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: Driver, right, yeah, I mean close to forty six. 187 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yours is long, long long. I mean 188 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm more in kind of Tristan's world where I, you know, 189 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: like you and I kind of dove into this driver world, 190 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, the twelve degree driver that's kind of replacing 191 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: the three wood YEP. And again, like comfort levels, like 192 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: if I got a tight hole and I'm not comfortable 193 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: with the big boy using the shorter one, being able 194 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: to kind of grip all the way up on it 195 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and it feeling short your hand. Even the nine wood. 196 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't necessarily have the nine one in 197 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: the bag right now, but I've been messing around with 198 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: the nine one. 199 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: By the way. 200 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: I really like the shortness of it. It just kind 201 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: of feels it almost feels fun to play with. I mean, 202 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: I love what you were saying about. Just you know, 203 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: as long as you're comfortable with what you're swinging, I mean, 204 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: that's obviously the key. 205 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: To success exactly. 206 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: I mean I went to top Golf Top Golf a 207 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: couple of times in Dubai, and they drive a limbs 208 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: are like almost like mine, so it just a normal drive. 209 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: It just feels awful for me, like I always hit 210 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: it out of the yell. 211 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's mental how I swing it, 212 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: but it just it doesn't feel comfortable. It feels like 213 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: I need to get my elbows really tucked in and 214 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: it's just not normal for me. I don't know, it's 215 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: my arms are long as I don't know. It's just 216 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: always feel comfortable and if I could choose. I would 217 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: maybe make it an if you know, like Brice and 218 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: it just it just feels. 219 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: Unbelievable about that world. But obviously what's working for you exactly? 220 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: When you got a top golf what game are you playing? 221 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Are you like competing against your buddies? 222 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: Are you going to have more just eating shots? You know, 223 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: take family that they haven't haven't been there, so just 224 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: see them eat I eait a couple of shots and 225 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 3: mess around and eat shapes and stuff and try and 226 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: dunk it, but not really play any games. 227 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: Intimidating one of the best players in the world's next 228 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: to you in the bay at top Golf. More, this 229 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: is probably got a little bit done, Yeah, christer, what 230 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: you just got on to do? 231 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: G four forty driver and tell us a little bit 232 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: about that process. What are you noticing there? 233 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it took me a while to change spens 234 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: and the guys fit me with the with the four 235 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: thirty in in l A what was it two years ago? 236 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: Years open and I've been using that driver since and 237 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: I got it. I got the new four forty November 238 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: in November last year at the Bang Golf Challenge, and 239 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: you know, it was good but it wasn't it wasn't 240 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: the same. 241 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: Obviously, they explained to me how they had differs a 242 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: little bit. 243 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's some good work at being this week 244 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: or last week at HQ, and managed to find a 245 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 3: lower degrade driver. You know, I normally played ten ten 246 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: and half, so we tried the ten and half head 247 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: and didn't really work, and then managed to get a 248 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: nine degree head too and loft it up to ten 249 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: and it just worked straight away. It looked more like mine, 250 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: felt like it felt way better off the face, a 251 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: lot softer. I could definitely see a bit more like 252 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: better spin control where mine was sometimes it just it 253 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: lacks spin and it just falls out of the end. 254 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: This one just feels like especially the one my bad 255 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: shot is out of the hill and sometimes with the 256 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: old old driver just falls out of the sky, where 257 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: this one keeps the spin and doesn't want to deviate 258 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: as much as the previous one. So dispersion wise, it's 259 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: it's way better. It looks amazing, it feels this sound 260 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: is great, like I like that softer, softer sound. 261 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: And every crow, yeah, every crow just like talks about 262 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: the sounds. I remember when we first started talking about 263 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: drivers the acoustics being a thing. Obviously you were pushing 264 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: so hard, but it's just so funny. Every tour player 265 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: wants to hear good sound with the driver. It's something 266 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: that it's like something stands out right away when you 267 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: hit something new. 268 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: For sure, you know, even even the yells strikes that 269 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: with the old driver, it's it's not as nice on 270 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: the Yeah you can year, it's not a good drive, 271 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: but even the yells strikes now it's it sounds more 272 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: like the middle of the of the previous one. So 273 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: overall it's unbelievable. The Fairway boots are the best I've 274 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: ever played it. 275 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: What do you got in? 276 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: What do you? 277 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: What do you got in the bag? 278 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: This week three with five wood and then I've got 279 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: a new five ibrids that replaces the. 280 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: Four iron hybrid replacing the four irony. What's the reason 281 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: for that? 282 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: So, like we spoke this week at HQ, like the 283 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: Fine is more of a short part four off the 284 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: tea where I can run it. There's no I don't 285 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: need to laughter it and get it onto the green. 286 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: And then when I actually had to use the fine, 287 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: like into long part fives or shortish part fives, I 288 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: couldn't keep it on the like the ball flights just 289 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: to penetrating the spin levels down, so I would always 290 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: maybe go to the five with and slice the five 291 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: with rather than eat the foine. So it was a 292 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: club I sort of didn't want to use when I 293 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: actually had to, so it just made sense to spend 294 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: such as says straight away, why don't we try ibrid, 295 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, last time I used the 296 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: ibrid was like eight years ago and it was a 297 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: two iron hybrid and it went miles. 298 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 4: It was almost like a three wood for me, So. 299 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure, you know, I felt like I'm still 300 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: too young to get into the ibrids and stuff. But i' 301 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 3: mean straight away, it gave me the exact same distance 302 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: I needed. It gave me the ball flight needed. The 303 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: spin was great, like it's supposed to be four fine, 304 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: and yeah, it's just a no brainer. So now I 305 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: actually want to eat a four five ibrids it's fun 306 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: and into a far five the. 307 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Then hit it exactly so you can stop it on 308 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the green. 309 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 3: And like spin said, you know, why have a club 310 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: in your bag that you don't use, You know, why 311 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: deviate away from something that could actually be beneficial for you. 312 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, no brain and it's in the bag and 313 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: ye are very excited. 314 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 1: Can you talk us through your journey into golf, like 315 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: who taught you golf? How old were you when you 316 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: when you started playing? And when did you start to 317 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: realize like I'm actually good at this. 318 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think age of five I started. 319 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's where I can actually remember, you know, getting 320 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: a set of clubs from my grandfather. 321 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Your granddad was a golfer. 322 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: He was a golf Both my father's father and my 323 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: mother's father loved golf. So yeah, I just got into 324 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: it straight away. But being in South African, you play sports, 325 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: that's that's a common thing. You go to to primary 326 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: school and you play everything, and I did. My my 327 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: father was a very good tennis player, so I played tennis, cricket, rugby, golf. 328 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: But just yeah, and then I just felt like individual sports. 329 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: Is what I wanted to do. 330 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: I knew it's probably just my personality, but I'm very competitive, 331 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: and it felt like team sports. It's you're never going 332 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: to be the best in your team because it's a 333 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: team sport. 334 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Right, and you've got to trust everybody else. 335 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: Felt like, you know, trust your teammates and sometimes like 336 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: I was, I was scrum off in rugby and I 337 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: would pass a great pass and then the fly with 338 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: knock the ball or whatever, and then it feels like 339 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: somebody is holding you back. And when in individual sports 340 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: it's it's up to you. There's no blaming anybody. It's 341 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: up to you to put in the work and and succeed. 342 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: So that definitely gave me the mindset that individual sports 343 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: the one is my my direction. 344 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: And then golf is what I loved. 345 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: My father ended up doing his PGA professional degree and 346 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: he started coaching me, and yeah, he's been my coach 347 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: ever since. 348 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: It still your coach, now, still my coach. 349 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: There was like a two year period where I saw 350 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: someone else just to get like a different perspective. You know, 351 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: when it's a father son relationship, especially me going into 352 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: my teens, you know, there's fights and yep, because he's 353 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: my dad, he's right, I'm the player, I'm right, So you. 354 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: Get your differences. But it was good for me as well. 355 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: You know, I got taught, you know, learned a lot 356 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: of new things from someone else. And but yeah, I 357 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: mean my father is the one that that gave me 358 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: what I have today and taught me what I what 359 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: I know today, and it's just the relationship is good 360 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: and it's it's worked ever since. 361 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: So when there's a there's a college basketball coach that 362 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: had his son on the team, and I remember reading 363 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: a story and he said, like when they went to practice, 364 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm not dad, like I'm coach. Like, how did you 365 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: guys handle that? As you started to progress and get better? 366 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Was it could you talk to each other as coach, 367 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, player and not kind of do the dad 368 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: something like did you guys have a way of discussing 369 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: things where it wasn't like you said Dad's wrong, Son's wrong, 370 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. 371 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: Definitely, I think when I got older, like to fifteen sixteen, 372 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: he was also Mike Caddy in my first like amateur 373 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: you know, stent over in Europe, and as as professional, 374 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: I think the first six seven months he was my caddy. 375 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: Caddy as well, so he was dad caddy coach. And 376 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: I think when I was like fourteen fifteen, I just 377 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: we had a fight on a driving range or something 378 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: and I just told him, listen, I respect to you 379 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: as my father, but when were on the drive range, 380 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: you might coach. 381 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: And I'm you said that to him. Yeah, it's interesting. 382 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: I'm technically the boss because i'm the player, and then 383 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: when we're on the golf course and you might gaddy, 384 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: you might caddy, and then I'm still the boss. But 385 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. 386 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be unreasonable or anything. You still respect whether 387 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: it's your father or not. You respect your caddy, you 388 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: respect your coach. That's a big more I have. But 389 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: we just set that bar clear, you know, early on, 390 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: because if I want to excuse me, if I want 391 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: to swear on the golf course, I don't know, my father, 392 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: tell me listen, you're being disrespectful because I'm your father, 393 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I understand it. But today you might 394 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: caddy on the golf course. I need to get my 395 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: emotions out in a way like I feel I haved. 396 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: So it was important to get that, you know, levels 397 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: of what relationship it is at that moment. And I 398 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: mean that's why we have a good relationship today and 399 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: had great relationships on the golf course on the driving rage. 400 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: What type of things do you guys work on. Are 401 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: you more technical side looking at numbers or is it 402 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: more feel sided things? You know, what type of instruction and. 403 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so so growing up, I played a lot of golf, 404 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 3: so it was never, never really technical. I mean, if 405 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: you look at my swing, it doesn't look technical, it 406 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: doesn't look like the normal swing. 407 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: I just played golf. 408 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: So we obviously worked on fundamentals and basics and stuff 409 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: that I have in place. And it's not the best, 410 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 3: but I think what helped me a lot is playing 411 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 3: a lot of golf. I was fortunate enough to we 412 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: lived on a golf course for about six years and 413 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: my father was the local pro the golf course at 414 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: the pro Shop was in charge of the golf course. 415 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: So I would after school, grab a card, play thirty 416 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: six holes. Holidays, five o'clock in the morning, play thirty 417 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: six in the morning, play. I would play seventy two 418 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: holes in a day. Sometimes just take a six sign 419 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: and play thirty six holes just on a six sign. 420 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: So that's sort of the way I learned golf and 421 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: what I still believe in that works for me. I mean, 422 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: I think it's tough to one wants to get better technically, 423 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: but if you this type of golfer, you can only 424 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 3: improve on how I feel like, how you've been taught 425 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: and how you actually play, because to go from a 426 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: field player to a technical player, it's. 427 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Just not who you are. 428 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: It's not who I am. It's not what I want 429 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: to be. 430 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: And that's why I feel like I have an edge 431 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: when condition gets tough or I really need to get 432 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: into the fairwell, I can hit a forty yard slice 433 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: and know for sure I'm not missing it left bad. 434 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: I'll tried. 435 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: I can hold a fairway if I want to. So yeah, 436 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: for now, we just work on. Obviously, I take videos 437 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: every week. He's not here every week, and we send 438 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: it through just to see that the fundamentals he's still fine. 439 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: And I use the g sy. 440 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: Quad to look at numbers only actually distance, it's not 441 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: I can see the shape in the air. 442 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 4: I don't need to. 443 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: Look at a system that tells me it's moving left 444 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: or right. I can see out it's moving and just 445 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: believe that, you know, believe in the distances and work 446 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: on that. 447 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was your big moment as an amateur player? 448 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, talking about kind of coming up in golf 449 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: and you have this family that's golfers and you're getting 450 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: tied and your dad's kind of involved. What was your 451 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: big breakthrough moment where you kind of started to realize 452 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: how good you are. 453 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: I would say junior golf. Like in South Africa, we 454 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: have a system. It's called the Junior Golf Foundation. It's 455 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: every Sunday, there's a tournament, thirty six holes. 456 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: And I think. 457 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: When I started, you know, winning quite a few of 458 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: that every Like I mean, you can be eighteen and 459 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: still play those, but I was twelve thirteen beating those, 460 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: eating those guys, and even before that playing I played 461 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: the Calaway Junior Ward two thousand and I think seven 462 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: and eight maybe in San Diego, and I finished I 463 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: think sixth or something in my first first try. I 464 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: think it was the UNDERD twelves or was eleven at 465 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: a time, and I just knew, like that, if if 466 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: I can finish top ten in a tournament that everybody 467 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: in the world plays in, I mean, if you're looking 468 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: at America, the size compete to South Africa, the amount 469 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: of golfers in America compete to South Africa. Finishing that 470 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: inside the top ten just gave me like sort of 471 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: that confidence that I'm good enough and that's what I 472 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: want to pursue. And like I say, winning a lot 473 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 3: of junior tournaments. Being a youngster competing against eighteen year 474 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: olds made it just logic for me that when I 475 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: think I'm good enough. 476 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: When you were growing up, you know, you're kind of 477 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: like Ernie higher power. You have this kind of retief 478 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: run and things like that. Who was the golfer you 479 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: were looking up to thinking about, you know, wanted to 480 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: see in person, like who was that kind of golfing 481 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: idol in your country to you? 482 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: Definitely Ernie Ils I think growing up. 483 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: I mean I was five in two thousand and one, 484 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: that sort of Tigers Prime. Ernie was involved there as well, 485 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: one and two in the world. So definitely Ernie. He 486 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: was the big easy for us. He was the ultimate guy, 487 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: the nice guy. You know, I was fortunate enough to 488 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: I grew up and now it's a town called now Spirit. 489 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: It's forty minutes from Leopard Creek and every year in 490 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: the Semur it was the Oldfra Daniel Championship there and 491 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: Ernie was the big shot. 492 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: You know, he was the guy to look out for. 493 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: So going there, you know from Thursday to Sundays just idolizing, 494 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 3: you know, just be in awe every single time when 495 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: you see him swing. So yeah, he was the guy. 496 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: And then you know, I was fortunate enough to be 497 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: in his foundation as well as a kid, and he 498 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 3: helped me. You know that the foundation helped me to 499 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: actually get the tournaments, pay entries, pay flights, accommodation. So 500 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: he's I'm very grateful for him. He's personally never done 501 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 3: something for me, you know, like it's the foundation that 502 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: he created. You know, I know him sort of well 503 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: when I see him. We don't chat over the phone 504 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: or whatever, but he knows what he's done for me, 505 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: and I know what he's his foundation has done for me. 506 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, he's he's the guy. 507 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: I mean, Tiger's obviously, everybody's Tigers, everybody's Heero, but being 508 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: a South African, Ernie's the one. 509 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about being kind of a field player. 510 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about your short 511 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: game equipment. You use our S one grind. Tell us 512 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: a little bit about how you got into that grind, 513 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: any changes you're making, uh and and why you like 514 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: that with your your technology style. 515 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: To be honest all around eight Shtrins is the beast 516 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: for me, but sometimes I do put him the six grind. 517 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: I think it's t t I think this week, I 518 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: might put it in play, especially bunkers. Bunkers, there's quite 519 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: a bit of SAand but it's tough to get through 520 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: so that eight bounces too much. So the sixers helps 521 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: to dig a little. But the eight, like my short game, 522 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: is really good. But it felt like playing American grass 523 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: like putt Meda and stuff like that. The six sort 524 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: of made me a bit tentative, like I wasn't as confident, 525 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: like it felt like it digs too much, and I 526 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: got like a bit, you know, I don't know, not 527 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 3: too confident. 528 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: And where the ah just bounces. 529 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: And glides through that grass like it's supposed to, so 530 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: soft conditions firmed the conditions. The eight is just overall amazing. Yeah, 531 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: it's just the bunkers where I feel like, especially Links 532 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: golf course, where the bunkers are quite deep, that it 533 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: just doesn't feel it looks like it's coming out too low. 534 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 3: Probably doesn't, but just for those type of bunkers this 535 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: week as well, there is quite a few deep ones 536 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: that you really need to short sighted ones that you 537 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: need to get it up so that. 538 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: Where the six might be might be a little better. 539 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 4: But the eight's been overall amazing for me. 540 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: Seane, that's a question we get a lot from our listeners, 541 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: like do the tour places should I carry two different 542 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: languages and change based on conditions? I think a lot 543 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: of the time that every day golfers playing mostly at 544 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: one course, right, I mean, I. 545 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: Mean that's part of some of the tools you have 546 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: online too, Right, It's like you're playing your golf at 547 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: one golf course for the most point. I mean, I'm 548 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: sure you have the data on that, but the players, 549 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's probably what eighty ninety percent of golfers 550 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: probably playing most of their golf, if not all their 551 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: golfers in plays. 552 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: So Tristan, you carry both both the H and the 553 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: tea grind with you most of. 554 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: The yea most most of the time between the fish 555 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: and ride exactly. 556 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: What's good separation for me to know? We had always? 557 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely, like I said, I didn't have the 558 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: tea this week, so Spencer and the guys pulled me 559 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: one this week. I just fell straight away because I 560 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 3: know last year it was a lot softer, so the 561 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: H would have been better maybe, but I know it's 562 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: it's firming up, and really, especially around the greens, it's 563 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: quite tight, so that sixty just outs because it doesn't 564 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: dig as much. It's still it's still you know, fair, 565 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: but it definitely works better than the. 566 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Than the h This week, Tristan, last thing for you, 567 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: you play the well in the Open Championship, it gets 568 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: you into the Masters. I mean, you know you talk 569 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: about a week to week not making an event bigger 570 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: than it is, or a tournament bigger than it is. 571 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: As you kind of think ahead to April, how excited 572 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: are you to play in the Masters, and how do 573 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: you keep yourself from getting kind of too amped up 574 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: for it? 575 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think you can see it in my smile. 576 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: I just think the way they actually. 577 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: Run the Master is insane, Like how you get your 578 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: invitation in December, I mean for the PGA Championship you 579 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: get an email or for the Open you get an 580 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: email for them. 581 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: It's written and written. 582 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Were you like checking the mail on a daily basis? 583 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: So we actually I was back home, it was just 584 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: off just before Christmas, sorry, and we got a goal. 585 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: We we live in like a security state, And got 586 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: a call from the from the gate and say UPS 587 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: is and I was like, I didn't even know UPS 588 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: works in South Africa it's like the one yes and 589 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 3: I didn't order something and I'm like, I looked at 590 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: my golf girlfriend, I'm like, I think this is it, 591 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: you know, this is this is maybe the invite. And 592 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: then I saw straightaway you know, Gusta National and whatever. 593 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: So that just makes me excited. But just looking at 594 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: the tournament as a kid, how special held like limited feel, 595 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: but the amount of people that golf course, I'm very excited. 596 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: But once again it's it's all tournament. I'm probably gonna 597 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: be playing the week before, so I'm only going to 598 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: arrive on Monday. I'm really going to try and get 599 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: there before and just to even if I just walk it, 600 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 3: just to be familiar with the grounds. 601 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever been before? 602 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: Never? Never been, So I think that's important. 603 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: Not I know, I've been told like from Monday to Wednesday, 604 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: have a condition of the course like changes gets firmer, 605 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: it gets quicker and whatever. But I think it's important 606 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: to see it first and before the tournament. I don't 607 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: want to get there and you know, Worry wears everything 608 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: and wears the first ty and hour. There's the first look. 609 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: I mean you can see it on TV, but it 610 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: doesn't do justs and whatever. So but I'm very excited. 611 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: It's an amazing opportunity. It's a it's a dream come true. 612 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: I mean to play in any majors a dream come true. 613 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: But I haven't played the Master's yet. I've played all 614 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: that is and I'm very excited and yeah, day to win. 615 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: So it'll be, it'll be. It'll be fun to watch it. 616 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: And you know what, I learned something today ups is 617 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: in South Africa to know that, So that's you taught 618 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: me something as well. Well, good luck the rest of 619 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: the year. It's been fun to watch you kind of 620 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: go out there and do your thing and play the 621 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: way you play. I hope it goes well obviously, Augusta 622 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: National and uh and yeah, Tristan, it's a it's just 623 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: been a fun chat and also keep enjoying that fishing 624 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: and in the fishing boat. I'm I'm excited to see 625 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: where you land in the States. This is the Paying 626 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: Prove and Grounds podcast.