Speaker 1: Hello, Internet, and welcome to season three one three, Episode
Speaker 1: four of The dailyes Eye. Guys are production of My
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Speaker 1: You heard I've strained my back watching TV and I
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate all the outreach. Uh. And I am
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by my co host. You know
Speaker 1: a wonderful guy. You know, someone who's got many talents,
Speaker 1: someone who is not also nice with the DAW's for
Speaker 1: editing purpose, but nice with the DAWs for music making purposes.
Speaker 1: He's a fantastic DJ. He has a voice that has
Speaker 1: the quality of vocal butter. Okay, that's what we like
Speaker 1: to say around here. That's a good thing. Please welcome
Speaker 1: to the microphone. Today's guest call host Justin Connor.
Speaker 2: This year is the story of my life before is
Speaker 2: to host the daily Ziight guys, and it feels so
Speaker 2: sad here without Jack. I absolutely love to host with
Speaker 2: my oh how many days in the year. And I'm
Speaker 2: just y'all, it's the shutdown shy guy on a ten
Speaker 2: years SoCal sabbatical, ready to do damage to some clavicles. There,
Speaker 2: you gos go, let's go.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, mc J I see you out there. Thank
Speaker 1: you for so much for joining us. As you know,
Speaker 1: Jack is on assignment in uh, he's he's he's recovery.
Speaker 1: He's under the weather. But that's how that's how we move,
Speaker 1: you know, we on.
Speaker 2: An innerspace adventure and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. But rest up, Jack, I know you'll
Speaker 1: be back. Uh. And hey, let's get to our guest,
Speaker 1: somebody who's honestly one of my favorite guests. Okay, and
Speaker 1: this person is not on the show enough for my liking,
Speaker 1: and I've been I'm actually making an effort to have
Speaker 1: them back as much as possible because our shared love
Speaker 1: for the state of California. Look, I'm from so called
Speaker 1: they represent the Yay area.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, this is somebody who fantastic stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: a writer, an actor, producer. You can find some of
Speaker 1: their very writings in things like We Had a Little
Speaker 1: Real Estate Problem, The Unherlded Story of Native Americans and comedy.
Speaker 1: Also seen them on Comedy Central Team Coco Illuminative twenty
Speaker 1: five Native American Comedians to follow. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: you read the Vulture, you read the La Times, maybe
Speaker 1: listen to the Daily ZEITGEI said, know how fantastic this
Speaker 1: person is. Please welcome to the microphone, Jackie Kha.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 3: Miles, what a beautiful introduction there. Oh I'm just feeling great, amazing.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was like talking and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: who wasn't been on the man? I'm like, you were
Speaker 1: a Jackie yet.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love being here, I love I love hanging out
Speaker 3: with you. It's always a good time. It's Native American
Speaker 3: Heritage months. You know, there's just a lot happening in
Speaker 3: the world. I have a lot of shows, a lot
Speaker 3: of gigs. I'm tired, but I'm going. I'm still going.
Speaker 3: We got a couple more you got a couple more
Speaker 3: weeks left, so you know, making it happen. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I love being here. You guys are the best. It's
Speaker 3: great and I love just getting to hang with Justin today.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were talking yesterday, me and Myles, and we
Speaker 2: were like, man, every time Jackie pulls up, it feels
Speaker 2: like the homie. It feels like it feels like a
Speaker 2: pleasant you're pulling up on at a cookout, just ready
Speaker 2: to vibe.
Speaker 1: We already know. I'm like, man, fuck with Jackie heavy.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know, ever since you corrected me when I was
Speaker 1: calling them slide shows.
Speaker 3: You remember that slide show. For the record, it is side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what. But that's what it's about. You know,
Speaker 1: you need those people to come to hey. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: stupid out here it's all love.
Speaker 2: It's all love.
Speaker 3: It doesn't Stupid in the bay is a good thing. Honestly,
Speaker 3: we love being stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go down stupid. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: We already know. But anyway, have you been You've been good.
Speaker 2: I've been good.
Speaker 4: I've been good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would saying it's a it's been a busy month.
Speaker 3: Things are good. I've got some projects going that I
Speaker 3: can't talk about just yet. But yeah, I'm staying busy
Speaker 3: doing that you know, a little bit of that writing,
Speaker 3: a little bit of that about development stuff, a little bit
Speaker 3: of that you know, stand up.
Speaker 4: There's just a lot going on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1: And it's you got your show good Medicine, right, it's
Speaker 1: you're you're doing in New York. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we debut at the Pearlman Performing Arts Center PACK
Speaker 3: and YC in twenty twenty four, so February ninth.
Speaker 4: So excited.
Speaker 1: Basically, I know you're in New York.
Speaker 4: You've got to come.
Speaker 2: Frost your calendars. It's not too early jot it down
Speaker 2: so you don't forget.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a really great time to
Speaker 3: check out PACK and YC. So just for folks who
Speaker 3: don't know yet, it has been under construction for years.
Speaker 3: It literally opened its doors in September, so for us
Speaker 3: to be part of their inaugural season is such an honor.
Speaker 3: And the week that we're perform forming the fourteen ninety ones.
Speaker 3: They're an all Native comedy sketch group. Folks may know
Speaker 3: them from Reservation Dogs, which is one of their biggest
Speaker 3: projects that blew up on FX and their play Between
Speaker 3: Two Knees is also going to be at the Pelman
Speaker 3: in February, So go check out the play, Go check
Speaker 3: out Good Medicine. We've got two shows that night. We've
Speaker 3: got a killer lineup. We've got Dallas Goldtooth. Folks know
Speaker 3: him as William knife Man from res Dogs. Oh you
Speaker 3: guys know him. Jannash Meeting, amazing actor also in res
Speaker 3: Dogs and Brutherford falls At, Adrian challipaw Brian Bahi. He
Speaker 3: was the pick for Just for Laughs and he just
Speaker 3: debuted some really cool stuff on Comedy Central. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's going to be a killer lineup. Come through, check
Speaker 3: it out, support between two knees, come see us. And
Speaker 3: then on Saturday, we've got a panel about Native representation
Speaker 3: in media.
Speaker 4: So it's going to be it's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 1: You guys, come through, Please come through. I know you're
Speaker 1: in New York. Look, that's one of our We've got
Speaker 1: a lot of listeners there, and I know every time
Speaker 1: our guests come on, they're like, damn fuck is this
Speaker 1: that gang to the show?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That sounds like a memorable show, Like that sounds
Speaker 2: like something you might take something away home with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah you're not here, Yeah, yeah, some some
Speaker 1: good comedy, something something for the mind.
Speaker 4: And there you go, you there you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we changed hearts and minds one joke at a time, y'all.
Speaker 3: But also above and beyond everything is funny, and it's
Speaker 3: kind of exactly we'll come through.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because who's more funny than oppressed people?
Speaker 4: But we know how to laugh. We don't time.
Speaker 1: You know how to make you know how to make
Speaker 1: gold necklaces out of lemons, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: We know how to go beyond lemonade. Anyway, Jackie, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you even better. But let's tell
Speaker 1: some people what are not some people? All the people
Speaker 1: that are listening right now, we're going to talk about Uh,
Speaker 1: I just want to check back in with the GP
Speaker 1: because Congressman Chip Roy he had one of those moments
Speaker 1: are like he's starting to realize the clownery of his
Speaker 1: party but not quite there. But it's also you know,
Speaker 1: we'll get into that he had a brief moment of
Speaker 1: clarity like jay Z. Then we'll talk about there's a flight.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people saw this on Twitter
Speaker 1: that like a plane had to turn around because horse
Speaker 1: a board was loose. Well, we'll just kind of we
Speaker 1: need to dig through that. Yeah, I just understand that
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Gonna touch back in with our
Speaker 1: homies in the seas, the proletarian folk heroes, the Orca
Speaker 1: gang who were fucking sinking yachts and shites. Yeah for real,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean to watch watch your rudders
Speaker 1: yacht Yachty's okay because like now there's like full on
Speaker 1: Facebook groups of like sailors and yacht people who are like, yo,
Speaker 1: what the fuck you do to try and get them away?
Speaker 1: But luckily the solution is so simple and it's actually
Speaker 1: quite beautiful. So we'll get into that. Uh, and then
Speaker 1: just a quick reminder as we deal with increased anti Semitism,
Speaker 1: is Islamophobia in this country and just just generally how
Speaker 1: much the media informs our perception of certain groups in
Speaker 1: the United States. Got to talk about the movie True Lies,
Speaker 1: because that's coming back on Blu Ray And if you
Speaker 1: want to talk about a stinky, a Islamophobic piece of trash,
Speaker 1: it's fucking True Lies. And I've like always like known this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but to really look at
Speaker 1: it and you're like, bro.
Speaker 2: You can't what the fuck is this shit?
Speaker 1: And especially in the time that we're in. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna delve into that, so we can, you know, take
Speaker 1: a second to slightly deprogram ourselves of that propaganda we
Speaker 1: were just inhaling in the nineties. Okay, But before we
Speaker 1: do that, Jackie was something from your search history that's
Speaker 1: revealing about who you are, what you're into right now.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I always do a lot of my googling right
Speaker 3: before bed. It's like doom scrolling followed by any of
Speaker 3: my questions for the evening. So City of Angels is
Speaker 3: what came up in my search history last night, Altis
Speaker 3: More said, do you guys remember she sang that song Uninvited?
Speaker 3: It was part of the City of Angels. Okay, killer
Speaker 3: amazing song, very haunting, very gorgeous. Anyway, it was like
Speaker 3: a really quick reel that I saw last night of
Speaker 3: her on The Kelly Clarkson Show, and she just she
Speaker 3: still hits that pitch.
Speaker 4: She can do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she wrote the song in fifteen and it's shut
Speaker 3: up and so anyway, I just yes, she said I
Speaker 3: wrote it in fifteen minutes and boom there it was.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, so anyways, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Alana's more set, like I Jagged Little Pill like that
Speaker 3: whole situation, like loved it. So I was like, I
Speaker 3: gotta figure out City of Angels and I gotta like
Speaker 3: find out where I can stream it. So it's a
Speaker 3: beautiful film. Make Ryan nick Cage. He's an angel, she's
Speaker 3: a human. It's a love story. So it's it's it's
Speaker 3: the fall. It's dark by five. This is the kind
Speaker 3: of shit that I watch at night.
Speaker 1: So I gotta hold on. Let me remind myself of
Speaker 1: that track really quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a glimpse of it in my mind.
Speaker 2: And the slow like piano, oh yeah, like he's it's
Speaker 2: it sounds like leaves falling. I think you're you're right.
Speaker 1: On the mind. This one is haunting as fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. Excit, yes, there you go.
Speaker 1: Her whole thing. Her voice is still I saw her
Speaker 1: do jet like most of the Jagged Little Pill, like
Speaker 1: maybe last year, eighteen months ago.
Speaker 4: I would love to see that.
Speaker 1: I was blown through. Her voice is like she's kept
Speaker 1: her voice, yesh, Like it's wild when you can hear
Speaker 1: somebody what was that fucking thirty years twenty five years
Speaker 1: whatever since that album came out and then they just
Speaker 1: rip it like it's fucking ninety four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been so long since I've heard this song.
Speaker 2: I forgot how good it sounds. Immediately it sounds like powerful,
Speaker 2: like yeah, pretty pretty quickly. It draws you in and
Speaker 2: miles because you hear the first thing I thought was like,
Speaker 2: oh man, this could be a crazy like jungle edit
Speaker 2: or something under here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't want to ruin the don't want
Speaker 2: to ruin the vibe of autumn evening. So we'll save
Speaker 2: that for a lot of time.
Speaker 1: Now, we can throw some Reese base on there and like,
Speaker 1: you know, do some you know predecessors to dub stuff
Speaker 1: for sure, the Remick flip that one. Wait, so you
Speaker 1: said you heard the track, like the track was on
Speaker 1: TikTok or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's she's promoting her tour.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys seen the Kelly Clarkson Show,
Speaker 3: but she'll Kelly Clarkson will sing with her guests, and
Speaker 3: so the two of them saying this.
Speaker 1: Track, Oh, I was got it.
Speaker 3: I just got all the little goose bumps and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh fuck, because so many TikTok, Like, there's
Speaker 3: so many TikTok edits that like, well, like gen Z
Speaker 3: just like revives a song from.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, like you can edit like hurt Animals,
Speaker 1: like of compilation to this and make you cry. And
Speaker 1: it's so funny because every now and then I hear
Speaker 1: a track, I'm like, bro, I haven't heard that's just
Speaker 1: since college. But okay, y'all, really I'm invested in this
Speaker 1: dog learning how to walk again after being hit by car.
Speaker 3: You did it, That's that's I just brought it back
Speaker 3: and I was like, I have to see City of Angels.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing it in the theater, so like I was like,
Speaker 3: I've got to see this. We're queuing us up to
Speaker 3: watch tonight. So okay, yeah, it's uh, it's a good one.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that one.
Speaker 1: I mean is I mean I remember when this came out.
Speaker 1: I felt like this was like kind of towards the
Speaker 1: end of Meg Ryan's like appearances because like you know,
Speaker 1: since she took that break. But like, is how is
Speaker 1: Nick Cage in that in that? I think I saw
Speaker 1: it when like it came out, But I have no
Speaker 1: like now that I'm have some experience and I know
Speaker 1: what romance is. Is he believable?
Speaker 4: He's very intense because he's an angel.
Speaker 2: I think he's an Oscar winner, and I think that's
Speaker 2: how he gets some of these roles where you're like, huh.
Speaker 4: Well, he's also a copola. He's also a copla.
Speaker 3: You guys know that, right, So, like he's killing somebody's
Speaker 3: always making sure he gets the script, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but with all that power, he couldn't get that
Speaker 1: Superman movie made. So there are limits to that Nepo
Speaker 1: baby power.
Speaker 3: Like you, there's limits, there's lits, but there's still a
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities. And he's an interesting character. I did
Speaker 3: like a little walking tour in New Orleans last year,
Speaker 3: and he loves New Orleans. And he purchased a plot
Speaker 3: at the Lafayette Cemetery in New Orleans and it's shaped
Speaker 3: like a pyramid, you know, kind of like National Treasure style.
Speaker 3: So he's an interesting he's an interesting one.
Speaker 2: Didn't have to give back a bunch of dinosaur bones
Speaker 2: or something like his purchases.
Speaker 1: I think he did. Yeah, he had some dinosaur bones.
Speaker 1: And then he was like identify as Emo something when
Speaker 1: he was he was getting ready for the Vampire movie
Speaker 1: he did. He was like, yo, I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: fucking with this whole dark vibe.
Speaker 3: Now, he like lived in a very creepy, very haunted
Speaker 3: vampire esque place right there, like near Bourbon Street in
Speaker 3: New Orleans.
Speaker 4: And I'm like that you like it for him?
Speaker 2: For him, yeah, because it feels like he's occupying his lane.
Speaker 2: I don't want that in my life. But like it
Speaker 2: feels like a very like eccentric celebrity thing to do,
Speaker 2: and if that's what makes him happy, it feels like
Speaker 2: it's not hurting anybody, like you know what happened to
Speaker 2: do it? Man?
Speaker 1: It's funny though. I feel like the one interior design
Speaker 1: aesthetic that has me a little bit like I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can go to sleep in here is
Speaker 1: like gothic. Oh yeah, I remember seeing like I remember
Speaker 1: like on like those Zillow Gone Wild type websites I
Speaker 1: show you just like wild ass houses that are for sale,
Speaker 1: Like there was one that the interior looked like a
Speaker 1: vampire's nightclub, and I'm like, this ship is I cannot
Speaker 1: relax in here?
Speaker 3: Like I Yeah, if it looks like the set, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? It looks like a set of
Speaker 3: some sort of like nineties vampire film nope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not gonna chill, not gonna be, not gonna sleep.
Speaker 1: My whole esthetic is from dust till dawn. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's Flag City Jackie. What's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is gonna split the room. And I'm
Speaker 3: a little nervous to say this out loud, but Killers
Speaker 3: of the Flower.
Speaker 1: Moon, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if you guys. Have you guys
Speaker 4: seen it yet, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, I have not.
Speaker 1: No, I've I've been actually wait i've. When I saw it,
Speaker 1: I was like, let me start seeing some First Nations
Speaker 1: indigenous people comment on it, because I can definitely see
Speaker 1: the Scorsese vibes, and people are like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this white guy, what did he go there? I'm like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck's being centered in the one I saw?
Speaker 1: Whoever the language consultant was on the red carpet started
Speaker 1: dropping some knowledge, but not fully, you know, fucking shit up.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: obviously going to be flawed in some right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, just like a bit of background, I actually worked
Speaker 3: for the Osage Nation back in my urban planning days.
Speaker 3: Like I'm focused more on comedy now, But I worked
Speaker 3: as an urban planner. I have a master's in that,
Speaker 3: and I was working out there, and so I got
Speaker 3: a chance to see this story come to life in
Speaker 3: the community and got a chance to like really understand
Speaker 3: that this is still very much an open wound, still
Speaker 3: very much a very tragic, awful thing that's happened to
Speaker 3: the community. And so I knew once they started announcing like, oh,
Speaker 3: Martin Scorsese's going to do this and Leonardo.
Speaker 4: Kapper, I was like, Oh, how are they.
Speaker 3: I was like, let's hope they're handling it with reverence
Speaker 3: because this is a big one. And so I was
Speaker 3: already just kind of curious how it was all going
Speaker 3: to play out. But I will say they did consult
Speaker 3: left and right with community, and so that's huge, the
Speaker 3: fact that they were working with the tribe and working
Speaker 3: with tribal members just to put the story together. But
Speaker 3: that said, it is about the reign of terror and
Speaker 3: murder of O Sage people and for their head rights.
Speaker 3: So a head right essentially is basically it's oil money,
Speaker 3: and so people were coming in and and and it
Speaker 3: so I guess there's a lot of rampant violence essentially,
Speaker 3: and going in and watching three and a half hours
Speaker 3: of that as a Native person not the business for me.
Speaker 4: I was angry. I was very frustrated.
Speaker 3: And I will say, Leonardo DiCaprio's character, this is actually
Speaker 3: the hot take you were talking about on the red
Speaker 3: carpet with the Osage consultant. I want to pull his
Speaker 3: name up in a second, because we got to give
Speaker 3: him credit for what he said. But it just so
Speaker 3: much centered Leonardo DiCaprio's character, and we could see him
Speaker 3: wrestling with what he was doing, which was part of
Speaker 3: a murder plot centered on this one very specific family,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, why are we giving him this multi
Speaker 3: dimensional approach? Yes, his name is Christopher Cote and that's
Speaker 3: the Osage consultant, and I just felt like it gave
Speaker 3: him a lot of texture.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what about the Native people in this?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And I didn't.
Speaker 3: I would love to see Molly. Molly's character have a
Speaker 3: little bit more nuance and and I just I wanted
Speaker 3: something different. But again, I will say, I do think
Speaker 3: it's important to watch the film because there's a lot
Speaker 3: of people who never heard about the story, who know
Speaker 3: nothing about it, and this was the first ever FBI investigation,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So like this exactly, and
Speaker 3: so I think that the acting is amazing. It's it's
Speaker 3: amazing acting. The set, like the set design, like you're
Speaker 3: in there, they got flies going around, and I'm like
Speaker 3: in the theater, like you know, like they really put
Speaker 3: you in it, right, they put you in it. And
Speaker 3: so I really think that's that's great and lovely and wonderful.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just really hard for me to
Speaker 3: sit there and watch three and a half hours of
Speaker 3: violence against state of people. And so but here's the
Speaker 3: ultimate thing. So we're putting a spotlight on something that
Speaker 3: happened a long time ago, lots of people stealing head
Speaker 3: rights and from tribal peoples. But like, what do we
Speaker 3: do next? Like what comes after this? And I think
Speaker 3: that's the question that I have. And that's not necessarily
Speaker 3: a question for the tribe or the question for the
Speaker 3: film crew, But like Leo made a fat check on
Speaker 3: this one. Does he contribute some of that back to
Speaker 3: the community so they can get their head rights and
Speaker 3: lands back. I mean, like that's that's what I'm just like,
Speaker 3: I want to see what happens next. And I hate
Speaker 3: to say it, But I don't know if this is gonna,
Speaker 3: you know, be a catalyst for other bigger questions about
Speaker 3: lots of people, because this is this is one thing
Speaker 3: that we know about. This is one investigation, but there
Speaker 3: was all kind of crazy shit happening out there at
Speaker 3: that time, with people coming in and stealing lands and
Speaker 3: stealing head rights directly from tribal members and in scrupulous
Speaker 3: ways and violent ways. So anyway, that's where I'm like,
Speaker 3: I think, as a piece, it's important for people to
Speaker 3: have watched it, but if your native, like, take your time,
Speaker 3: you don't need to see it right away, schedule a
Speaker 3: therapy session in advance and after, you know, like you
Speaker 3: just got to really be there to support yourself because
Speaker 3: it's a heavy one.
Speaker 4: It's so heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are those films that are made for audiences
Speaker 1: that like you're like, that's important for them to understand.
Speaker 1: But if you come from that community, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like that's why man, like Twelve Years of Slave and
Speaker 1: certain movies like that. I'm like, bro, I mean, go ahead, like,
Speaker 1: if you need to see it, go ahead, Like I
Speaker 1: don't need I don't need to be convinced or know
Speaker 1: even more or a depiction of it. But I get
Speaker 1: it because everyone, you know, we grapple with our own
Speaker 1: personal histories in our own ways. But yeah, if like
Speaker 1: Leonardo Dicapriolan out here on some like land back shit,
Speaker 1: then what's up? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my main concern when starting to see
Speaker 2: the movie being promoted. You know, the audience reaction of
Speaker 2: the trailers was immediately, wow, that looks beautiful, Wow, that
Speaker 2: looks great. And I saw Martin Scorsese. I didn't know
Speaker 2: much about the film, and then I was like, this
Speaker 2: seems like this could be very delicate and hard to
Speaker 2: pull off for a white man in his eighties, I believe.
Speaker 2: And I and the entire time as I was hearing
Speaker 2: the reaction to the film and how the hype build up,
Speaker 2: I was like, why isn't there any criticism? I was like,
Speaker 2: is it really that good? Did he really handle it
Speaker 2: that carefully and with that much depth and understanding? And
Speaker 2: I'm hearing that it's like kind into but not as
Speaker 2: much as you'd hope. Is that I don't want to
Speaker 2: put words in your mouth, Jackie. Is that I mean?
Speaker 1: I guess, Oh, sorry, go ahead, No, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: or it feels like it's just inherently hard to make
Speaker 1: a movie like this, yeah yeah, and pull it off
Speaker 1: in the way that you need to. Like it's yeah right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but so does that I guess my I guess
Speaker 2: my misgiving with is like should was he the best
Speaker 2: person to do it? Or I guess because my whole
Speaker 2: my whole reaction to it when I first saw I
Speaker 2: was like, really, Martin Scorsese and that that was That
Speaker 2: was when I guess. I was like the Irishman fine,
Speaker 2: but this felt that different for me, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I wasn't as excited as I thought the hype was,
Speaker 2: and I was questioning, like why I wasn't getting there right?
Speaker 3: I mean, so, so, it's actually based on a book
Speaker 3: called Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grant, who's
Speaker 3: a non native person who writes about the Osage murders
Speaker 3: and the birth of the FBI. But so so yes,
Speaker 3: so that this essentially is a film based off of
Speaker 3: the books. So I think in that way, a lot
Speaker 3: of I didn't read the book, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3: But again, I'm not like jumping into reading about these
Speaker 3: things myself, but I have quite a few friends who
Speaker 3: read it. And they were like, okay, Like it was
Speaker 3: definitely a little bit more mystery oriented in the book
Speaker 3: according to you know, my friend's assessment of reading it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were like, yeah, I think it did
Speaker 3: sort of a good job of laying out what happened
Speaker 3: in the book. But at the same time, this, like
Speaker 3: I said, this is a very heavy topic for this
Speaker 3: very real community that's living with this right now. And
Speaker 3: so I think that's the piece of it where I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm just naive, but I was like, look,
Speaker 3: this is this is Hollywood. We can we have some
Speaker 3: creative license. Like I thought that the murders might be
Speaker 3: like not so in your face. Like I felt like maybe,
Speaker 3: and I felt like, maybe there's some creative interpretation of
Speaker 3: what happened to inject more agency and power into the
Speaker 3: native perspective, because that's what I would do if I
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to do it, right, I'd be like,
Speaker 3: all right, here's a story, but here's a story I
Speaker 3: want to tell about this story, you know, And so
Speaker 3: I think, like I guess I was silly to think
Speaker 3: maybe it wouldn't be so in your face. And then
Speaker 3: the opening scene, like a couple of moments into the
Speaker 3: opening scene, we see our first murder, and I'm like, aha,
Speaker 3: it was just so real, and it was like literally
Speaker 3: the people were gasping in the audience.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, and.
Speaker 3: So you said that, yeah, yeah, so but I get it,
Speaker 3: like I think probably, And I haven't read any of
Speaker 3: their sort of the film, the directors, and I haven't
Speaker 3: read any of what they've said in response to any
Speaker 3: of some of the criticism that's coming out, but I'm
Speaker 3: sure they're like, we want it to be real, we
Speaker 3: want it to be in your face because we don't
Speaker 3: want to hide the horrors of what this was. But simultaneously,
Speaker 3: if that's your goal, then I'm gonna recommend dat. If
Speaker 3: people do not watch, you know, anyone who has been
Speaker 3: from a community that has been targeted and oppressed in
Speaker 3: a very violent, awful way. That's where I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 3: I I just just be prepared, basically. And Lily Gladstone,
Speaker 3: who's the amazing actor who plays Molly, she even said
Speaker 3: because unfortunately, because of SAG, and because of the SAG
Speaker 3: after strike, wasn't even able to promote or say much
Speaker 3: about it. And so finally once the strike was lifted
Speaker 3: and all that, Lily came forward and said, like, please
Speaker 3: take care of yourselves because this is a heavy one.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that's kind of the vibe we
Speaker 3: should have gone in with. But unfortunately, because of the strike,
Speaker 3: no one was able to say much, you know. So
Speaker 3: and I watched it like I had an advanced screening
Speaker 3: and so like I saw it with a lot of
Speaker 3: people like well before it came out, and so you know. Anyway,
Speaker 3: So also I think it's a little overrated, and I
Speaker 3: do think that people who don't know about the story
Speaker 3: should absolutely watch it. And again, amazing acting. And I
Speaker 3: do hope that Lily Gladstone gets a knom like she
Speaker 3: has to, like she fucking killed it and she and
Speaker 3: people might recognize her from Reservation Dogs. She plays the
Speaker 3: anti who's in prison. So and I can't remember her
Speaker 3: name right now, I'm sorry, but anyway, killer acting, a
Speaker 3: lot of amazing acting.
Speaker 2: It was a good nuanced take. I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you just split the room because we
Speaker 1: didn't see it.
Speaker 3: I wanted you guys to watch it, and I want
Speaker 3: to watch it, please, and let's debrief this case.
Speaker 2: You need to watch it. Absolutely. I was on the
Speaker 2: fence and now the fact that you were like, no,
Speaker 2: it's it's essential. You're just gonna need to take care
Speaker 2: of yourself. That over the edge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's hard I think in general, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: to see just that kind of untethered violence towards marginalized people,
Speaker 1: that is that goes unpunished. It's hard to watch that
Speaker 1: over and over and over.
Speaker 3: And then it's like and then Native women on top
Speaker 3: of that, like we already have, like folks are familiar
Speaker 3: with mm i W murdered Indigenous women. So this is
Speaker 3: nothing new, and it's just really hard to stomach. And
Speaker 3: you know, and also it's three and a half hours long,
Speaker 3: so do not drink anything before you go in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or we're a diaper, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you got to do?
Speaker 4: You know, there's no there's no intermission, it's just NonStop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back and we'll find out what's overrated and then
Speaker 1: we'll get some news and we're back. Let's switch gears.
Speaker 1: We didn't forget about your underrated Jackie. What's something some
Speaker 1: things I don't know what's something that's underrated.
Speaker 4: I think what's really underrated is acupuncture.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm in that point in my life where
Speaker 3: I'm having psiatic nerve pain.
Speaker 4: What no fun? No fun.
Speaker 3: And and honestly, it happened because I just got really sedentary.
Speaker 3: I started working from home about three and a half
Speaker 3: years ago, and I stay working at home, so I'm
Speaker 3: not doing that like active movement, just running to and
Speaker 3: from the office like I used to. So anyway, I
Speaker 3: had a really bad flare up and one of my
Speaker 3: good friends was like, Yo, you got to check out
Speaker 3: this acupuncture clinic. This woman's amazing. You go in there,
Speaker 3: you walk out with no back pain, and you, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm not even lying. I would be pretty aggressive about it.
Speaker 3: Go three times a week. But yeah, I have got
Speaker 3: it down to a point where I'm sitting, I'm able
Speaker 3: to stand for long periods of time.
Speaker 4: Like it's such a what's so cool about it that
Speaker 4: I didn't know?
Speaker 3: I don't know the total science behind it, you know,
Speaker 3: but this is like traditional Chinese medicine.
Speaker 4: It is used widely across the globe.
Speaker 3: Multiple countries have it just built into their medical systems,
Speaker 3: you know. But the US is, you know, a little
Speaker 3: on the fence, probably because they love pharmaceuticals anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well did it come from one of the colonial
Speaker 1: powers exactly?
Speaker 3: We don't know if we can trust it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: But it basically gets your body into a relaxed state.
Speaker 3: And so like in the beginning, I was nervous because
Speaker 3: I'm afraid of needles, but you kind of just get
Speaker 3: used to it after a while, and they'll like put
Speaker 3: like a couple of pins like like for me anyway,
Speaker 3: based on what I need in my on the top
Speaker 3: of my scalp right here, and I swear whenever she
Speaker 3: pops that in, it's like my body goes m like
Speaker 3: it just it kind of like powers down in a
Speaker 3: really beautiful way. Because I'm a very active creative and
Speaker 3: sometimes I cannot get this thing to shut down on
Speaker 3: its own. So I love to just chill. And I'll
Speaker 3: just like chill there for like forty minutes with these
Speaker 3: little needles on me, and then when I walk out,
Speaker 3: I feel like this little post acupuncture glow where I'm
Speaker 3: just like.
Speaker 4: Everything's beautiful and I'm relaxed, you know.
Speaker 3: And so I just think it's really underrated and I
Speaker 3: don't hear enough people talking about it, and like you
Speaker 3: kind of depending on your healthcare. You may or may
Speaker 3: not have options, but there are definitely community clinics that
Speaker 3: try to get this tutted more reasonable sliding scale. So
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's available a lot of places, but I
Speaker 3: could I couldn't tell you like how surprised I was
Speaker 3: at how it was able to address like my acute
Speaker 3: like I was having a major flare up. And so
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go continuously and yeah, so I'm a
Speaker 3: big fan and I highly recommend it for anybody.
Speaker 1: I need that for my back after I slipped and kicked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, Miles, you need that.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, it's it's so wild you
Speaker 2: say that I have. I spend a lot of hours
Speaker 2: in this Batman chair that I'm sitting in right now.
Speaker 2: And as I was doing the AKA, right after I
Speaker 2: was done, say, I don't know if you can, guys
Speaker 2: noticed me, my back started freaking out. I have no
Speaker 2: idea what happened, was yo, I have no I think
Speaker 2: I busted my classical my oh my god, no, no,
Speaker 2: my back was spasming, and I was I just turned
Speaker 2: thirty two, so I'm discovering new things about my body
Speaker 2: all the time, and this really you hit on a
Speaker 2: number of things. I definitely spend too much time in
Speaker 2: a chair. I become more sedentary as well, and I'm
Speaker 2: my lower back is doing some weird stuff, and I
Speaker 2: think I also have a hard time relaxing, especially if
Speaker 2: I'm like in a in a place where I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the idea of massage and like spas and
Speaker 2: stuff it really really appeals to me. I love the
Speaker 2: idea of it, but being comfortable in that space, like
Speaker 2: I cannot turn my head off. I'm constantly like body
Speaker 2: conscious and wondering what's going on. The fact that someone
Speaker 2: can just like place a thing on me it's and
Speaker 2: just take a step back. That's really appealing to me
Speaker 2: in a way I never thought about before. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's powerful.
Speaker 3: It's powerful stuff, and like again like I don't know
Speaker 3: all this su vices of it. It's basically about energy flow,
Speaker 3: and it's about basically cleaning up those sort of intersections
Speaker 3: of energy that are going through our body and some
Speaker 3: of them are kind of stuck, if you will. And
Speaker 3: it's really big on like lowering inflammation. Like there's just
Speaker 3: a lot of people I know who now it's a
Speaker 3: part of their general health care practices. It's a week
Speaker 3: they go to their acupuncturists, they do their thing. But
Speaker 3: I will like fully take naps in that chair, you know.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I just I love it and I feel
Speaker 3: like and you said, you just turned thirty two, Happy,
Speaker 3: happy birthday, belated birthday. And that's about that age when
Speaker 3: stuff starts to move around and I feel like it's
Speaker 3: really taken the like I need to start building stuff
Speaker 3: into my regular practice because it's just going to keep.
Speaker 4: Getting more challenging.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I take care yourself, unless unless we can find
Speaker 1: the found of youth, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 1: Or that just means, you know, taking the blood of
Speaker 1: younger people and then to put it in your body
Speaker 1: and maybe that works. I don't know if people are
Speaker 1: trying it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, a couple of bong rips. It's all however
Speaker 2: you get through your day. It's however you get.
Speaker 1: Through yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the bong of youth. That's
Speaker 1: what I call it, the blunt of youth, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Who would have known that the secret
Speaker 1: to long life was in a pack of backwoodsy Okay,
Speaker 1: let's move on to some news. The GOP. We were
Speaker 1: just talking about how the habit of tripling and doubling,
Speaker 1: quadrupling down on this terrible hand of like transphobia and
Speaker 1: healthcare denial or health access to healthcare denial is like
Speaker 1: their whole thing, and they keep losing. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: we can win, man, we can win. And also, I
Speaker 1: know it's a total clown show in the Congress, but
Speaker 1: like we can't even keep the government funded, but don't worry,
Speaker 1: you still vote for us. There's this moment on Tuesday
Speaker 1: where Chip Roy, who's a congressman of Texas, was getting
Speaker 1: really upset with just kind of like yo, like there's
Speaker 1: so much infighting, like we can barely keep the government funding.
Speaker 1: What like, just started grand standing as if he wasn't
Speaker 1: a Republican too. But it's just interesting to see him
Speaker 1: come for his fellow colleagues on the right because he's
Speaker 1: big mad about the perceived nonsense that's happening, although he
Speaker 1: probably isn't. He's just he's probably doing this to help
Speaker 1: his election chances. But anyway, let's listen to Chip Roy.
Speaker 2: One thing.
Speaker 6: I want my Republican colleagues to give me one thing,
Speaker 6: one that I can go campaign on and say we
Speaker 6: did one anybody's sitting in the complex if you want
Speaker 6: to come down to the floor and come explain to
Speaker 6: me one material, meaningful, significant thing the Republican majority has done.
Speaker 1: So that's very interesting. It should be noted that he
Speaker 1: decided to talk with his chest out like that when
Speaker 1: it was empty. So can't really give you full points
Speaker 1: there chip for going after your colleagues because you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, everybody gone, now watch this shit. Because also,
Speaker 1: let's like this is where it's a little bit funny, right,
Speaker 1: I get that he's saying, like, name one thing, but sir,
Speaker 1: you are wasting your time trying to get divers the
Speaker 1: bills like canned from the Department of Defense, or you know,
Speaker 1: going after just like very basic things like like there's
Speaker 1: a federal law that bans people from blocking abortion clinics
Speaker 1: and he wanted to repeal that. So, sir, you're you're
Speaker 1: putting a lot of your energy behind shit that I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can actually go back to your
Speaker 1: constituents and be like, yeah, I did that, I kept
Speaker 1: a rainbow flag out of the Pentagon. Okay, But it's
Speaker 1: just like one of those things where it's like a
Speaker 1: little bit of trying to say like I'm better than everybody,
Speaker 1: but if you really look at the receipts, you're like, bro,
Speaker 1: you were what the fuck are you saying for? Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He reminds me of my dog who makes a huge
Speaker 2: frust room. There's like a shadow at the door, and
Speaker 2: as soon as you open it up, she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: new friend, It's yeah, I don't, I can't. I'm really tired.
Speaker 2: I so I love to see people being passionate. I
Speaker 2: just hate to see people being inauthentic. And it's I
Speaker 2: think that's what's really made the populous like so apathetic,
Speaker 2: cause it's hard to trust anything in politics. It always
Speaker 2: has been. But even when they're it's like some modicum
Speaker 2: of like an impassioned speech, it's always tacked on with
Speaker 2: the caveat of like, you know, this isn't real, this
Speaker 2: is a performance, blah blah blah. And I just can't
Speaker 2: sit here and stuff because otherwise when it's when it's real,
Speaker 2: you get that weird ship like we got the other
Speaker 2: day with Mark Wayne Mullen trying to beat people up
Speaker 2: in like a Senate chamber, and that was a real
Speaker 2: impassion thing, but it was so stupid that everyone felt
Speaker 2: embarrassed by it, and this is these are the options
Speaker 2: we have. It's fake or it's stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's not that was more. I feel like
Speaker 1: toxic mask. I don't want to I don't care, and
Speaker 1: you fuck with my mask. Oh I'll fight you right here.
Speaker 2: I want to pretend to take my wedding ring off
Speaker 2: because I don't want to hurt anyone exactly like an idiot.
Speaker 1: Yeah if you started taking his wristwatch off and doing
Speaker 1: the whole clear out of my okay, and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh he's wearing black Air Forces.
Speaker 2: Oh oh shit, okay, Oh.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. Maybe maybe Mark Wayne
Speaker 1: is trying to make.
Speaker 2: Smokest even just smears it on about to get ready,
Speaker 2: He's like, let me till.
Speaker 1: My hair back really quick, let me take my farings out.
Speaker 4: Yeah the.
Speaker 1: Baby, hold my baby, hold my baby. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: but yeah, this is kind of like what's what it's
Speaker 1: been reduced to. It's just people getting clips on Twitter
Speaker 1: and then hopefully they can campaign on that. Meanwhile, like
Speaker 1: the Democrats don't have to do anything because the Republicans
Speaker 1: are so bad, so everybody loses because they can just
Speaker 1: be like because everyone's just like, this is gonna make
Speaker 1: re election so easy for all the Democrats. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but here's the issue here. If we're not trying to
Speaker 1: change the status quo for something that looks a little
Speaker 1: more equitable, then we're not doing we're doing fuck all.
Speaker 1: We're actually going backwards. And I just I always say, like,
Speaker 1: I just hate how easy like it is for Democrats
Speaker 1: when you have Republicans like this who are just like
Speaker 1: completely lost the plot. But anyway, here we are. Shall
Speaker 1: we move on to something a little bit more, I guess,
Speaker 1: more chaotic than the dysfunction of Congress. A horse being
Speaker 1: loose on a plane. I saw this headline it said
Speaker 1: plane forced to return to JFK Airport after horse on
Speaker 1: board gets loose. Now I'm pretty sure everyone is picturing
Speaker 1: like a full on fucking horse, like fucking up the
Speaker 1: fuselage right like where people are like, ah uh, well,
Speaker 1: it turns out because obviously that shit wouldn't happen, Although
Speaker 1: I don't know why. My mind's like how to get
Speaker 1: the horse in the plane like that It was in
Speaker 1: the cargo hold and got out of the its crate,
Speaker 1: which is why the plane had to land and which
Speaker 1: is interesting too. The pilot was like, no, we're good
Speaker 1: to fly. But the pilot was really concerned about the
Speaker 1: well being of the horse and was saying like, hey,
Speaker 1: when we landed, JFK, like, we need veterinary care to
Speaker 1: check this horse out, like want to make sure this
Speaker 1: horse is doing all good. And I'm like, damn, like
Speaker 1: this's a lot of you know, we don't even give
Speaker 1: a fucking human beings this kind of consideration. But but
Speaker 1: go on, pilot, Yeah, bring this thing down and save
Speaker 1: the horse. But yeah, I didn't realize horses do fly
Speaker 1: on planes all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know this either. And as someone who
Speaker 2: I think we've talked many times about like the anxieties
Speaker 2: of flying on air traveling when you have a pet
Speaker 2: and you're worried about like it shitting in the airport
Speaker 2: or whatever, I have committed to never taking my dog
Speaker 2: on a plane unless I somehow make enough money to
Speaker 2: like go on a chartered flight at some point.
Speaker 1: But may only fly private, right, right, But I.
Speaker 2: Was thinking, why isn't there a airline that caters to
Speaker 2: animal lovers, pet owners or whatever where you can make it.
Speaker 2: So it's like, no, we're pretty chill about your dog
Speaker 2: shitting in the eye. We have someone to clean it up.
Speaker 2: I would pay extra for that.
Speaker 1: You would, Yeah, you know that fucking airline would smell
Speaker 1: like straight.
Speaker 2: Up, and that's fine. I don't care. I don't have
Speaker 2: I don't. I pretty much have to pay like so
Speaker 2: much money to put my dog in daycare when I
Speaker 2: like to travel myself. I don't know if they went
Speaker 2: around to take care of it.
Speaker 1: I guess you could make it work if you use
Speaker 1: like a decommissioned like C one thirty or something like
Speaker 1: a military aircraft.
Speaker 2: Where and limit it too. Don't make it like three
Speaker 2: hundred people on a plane, like make it very limited.
Speaker 1: Or just being like or when you get on, you're like,
Speaker 1: y'all know what time it is. There's no fucking snacks, bro,
Speaker 1: this is the bus for your dog to ship on
Speaker 1: while we go to fucking Buffalo, New York. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also we're not doing we're not doing twelve hour flights.
Speaker 2: We're doing like two hours, you know whatever, where your
Speaker 2: dog can handle it. I'm trying to be I'm trying
Speaker 2: to be practical here, but.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, do you have any experience with
Speaker 1: horses on a with traveling with horses. I mean I
Speaker 1: knew somebody who was dating like a horse, a horse
Speaker 1: girl for lack of a better term, a horse. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, like there's like the girls I like, I
Speaker 1: have a horse and they're like and you're like, and
Speaker 1: you realize that They're like, oh, that means you were
Speaker 1: rich as fuck. I didn't. We just thought you were
Speaker 1: always like drawing pictures of horses and ship. But my
Speaker 1: friend was dating someone like that who like came from
Speaker 1: apparently like hidden dynastic wealth and was like flying.
Speaker 7: Her horses like all over the place. And that was
Speaker 7: the first time I heard him like you can just
Speaker 7: put them. They're like, yeah, let's how you get them
Speaker 7: across the country, and like you need your horse to
Speaker 7: go Again, I'm ignorant of the those things that are
Speaker 7: all equine, but apparently like this is normal too. There
Speaker 7: was like a bear cub got loose on a flight
Speaker 7: to bag Dad if that was like on the internet,
Speaker 7: where like a little bear club bear cub bear crub
Speaker 7: bear cub.
Speaker 1: Was just wilding out on the plane. And then also
Speaker 1: like on viet Jet there was a flight where someone
Speaker 1: an otter and a rat that were smuggling into someone's suitcase,
Speaker 1: got out.
Speaker 3: No, no, man, this is too much. I already hate
Speaker 3: flying to begin with. If some animal pops up and
Speaker 3: some shit, I'm out, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Mean you can't be out. That's the whole problem. You're
Speaker 4: just stuck on a plane with these critters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't just open the emergency exit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you know what I mean, deal with it
Speaker 3: that way. I mean it would be terrifying. Can you imagine,
Speaker 3: Because here's what's happening. Right, They're in the plane and
Speaker 3: they hear clank clank, clank, clink clink.
Speaker 4: They're like, what the fuck.
Speaker 2: Is that sound? Oh? Ship?
Speaker 4: The horse cut right?
Speaker 1: Those you don't want to have like barn problems on
Speaker 1: a plane, you know, the horse got out like that.
Speaker 1: I I like that in the context of like a
Speaker 1: you know, like a rural setting, but not on my
Speaker 1: overpriced flight, because it's our shi It's already too much.
Speaker 4: It's too much, it's too much.
Speaker 3: And then also like poor horses, Like horses are actually
Speaker 3: really sensitive, so I'm sure damn horse was having the
Speaker 3: worst panic attack of its life yet five thousand feet
Speaker 3: in the air. Very unfair to that point, not.
Speaker 1: Even find private.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one of the that that honestly is
Speaker 2: one of the reasons I don't even I don't think
Speaker 2: my dog would like flying private. She's that bougie. She
Speaker 2: would make me drive her like I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't like resisting getting on the plane when.
Speaker 2: Absolutely why do we walking past.
Speaker 1: The late flat seats? Why are we walking past these
Speaker 1: seats the back? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I would always could. I will take four
Speaker 2: extra travel days to like take my dog. Planes freaked
Speaker 2: me out so much already, Like you said, it's too expensive,
Speaker 2: it's too uncomfortable. We already dealing with people taking their
Speaker 2: shoes off. I don't want to deal with.
Speaker 3: When you people with the feet. Yeah, I'll take a
Speaker 3: horse over a foot any day. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't need I don't need any of that.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that an RFK junior thing? Recently he went to
Speaker 2: like like an airport bathroom without socks or shoes on,
Speaker 2: like you know when you do.
Speaker 1: Someone caught him walking through first class one to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, thank you? So yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: think sure, maybe we need to relook at how we're
Speaker 2: transporting these animals, because that doesn't sound like it would.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you get out of that without
Speaker 2: traumatizing the horse, like.
Speaker 1: I mean, give a bunch of horses or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I think it's still probably
Speaker 2: going to be traumatized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard. I heard it was not
Speaker 1: really for humans at first.
Speaker 4: More tranquilizer find it at any concert.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right exactly, and now at therapist too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, yeah, it's the hottest rage in l a.
Speaker 6: Hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think in the West coast too, like
Speaker 1: it's you see it up and down. Look, we're people
Speaker 1: understand the power the things that can be unlocked with psychedelics. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's move on to uh, orcas, our brethren in the
Speaker 1: fight against you know, just just obscene wealth and also
Speaker 1: fishing boats. You know, it's not really on the fishermen,
Speaker 1: but in the last year there was like just increased
Speaker 1: reporting of orcas killer whales going after yachts and fishing
Speaker 1: boats in the Atlantic, primarily near the Iberian Peninsula, but
Speaker 1: just like generally in the Atlantic, and some boats look
Speaker 1: damage so bad they fucking sank and others were like
Speaker 1: disabled to the point that they needed to be towed
Speaker 1: because like the rudders were like bitten off by the
Speaker 1: orcas and shit, and they're like, I can't fucking steer
Speaker 1: this shit anymore, Like what the fuck am I supposed
Speaker 1: to do? So this has led to many in the sailing, yachting,
Speaker 1: boating world of that region the world to like get together.
Speaker 1: They're like Facebook groups where they're like, Yo, I figured
Speaker 1: it out. I know how to actually deter the orcas.
Speaker 1: Some swear that blasting heavy metal from an underwater speaker
Speaker 1: will help. Others have said that painting the whole different
Speaker 1: colors will not attract them. Meanwhile, on Facebook groups, they're
Speaker 1: saying that scattering sand behind the boat will maybe throw
Speaker 1: them off, and others have gone as far as throwing
Speaker 1: fucking firecrackers in the water to scare them, which every
Speaker 1: expert is like, don't fucking throw little bang bangs in
Speaker 1: the water at these fucking animals. First of all, you
Speaker 1: will harm them and also like the other creatures around them,
Speaker 1: like it's very fucking detrimental to that ecosystem. And at first,
Speaker 1: like I think, like everybody were like, yo, the fucking
Speaker 1: orcas get it, like they're fucking they have god leveled intelligence,
Speaker 1: like they understand that these boats are a fucking stain
Speaker 1: on our society. But it turns out many researchers have
Speaker 1: just thrown cold water on that. They're like it to us,
Speaker 1: it sort of looks like, you know, the Orcas have
Speaker 1: just found a new way to play with the boats.
Speaker 1: Like it seems more like play more than them actually
Speaker 1: being like, yo oh, how wouts your fucking income type shit.
Speaker 1: It's more about them having, you know, a good time.
Speaker 1: So I think it's just like interesting that the like
Speaker 1: a lot of people as they argue about this, the
Speaker 1: one thing that people have all said that they're just
Speaker 1: starting to do, rather than throw fucking bombs at them,
Speaker 1: is to be like, how about we just stay the
Speaker 1: fuck away from them, like where we know they're at.
Speaker 1: How about that that's actually full proof? And now slowly
Speaker 1: it sounds like that is catching on, which is nice
Speaker 1: to see, rather than people be like, no, you need
Speaker 1: this fucking hardpoom bro, Like I like that where we've
Speaker 1: come back to now matter respect, respect the fucking seed,
Speaker 1: Like that's it is.
Speaker 2: What it is.
Speaker 1: You don't want smoke, then don't go near them and
Speaker 1: then sorry, take a detour.
Speaker 3: I mean this is the animals are animal ing, that's
Speaker 3: what they do. Like people will just stroll up on
Speaker 3: their territories and get all mad when they can't do
Speaker 3: their whatever fishing trip or whatever. It's like it's like orcas,
Speaker 3: it's bears. Like the amount of people who just stroll
Speaker 3: up on a bear being cute and it's like the
Speaker 3: bear is gonna bear real good. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: just I just hate seeing these stories of people who
Speaker 3: are just out there and getting mad like oh, they're
Speaker 3: they're ruining our things, and it's like you're literally ruining
Speaker 3: their habitat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's yeah.
Speaker 4: It's awful.
Speaker 1: Definitely like colonize our mindset, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: where it's like, what you mean, I'm on this fucking boat,
Speaker 1: the fucking the laws of nature should conform to my
Speaker 1: fucking needs and wants and a fucking killer whale. Not today,
Speaker 1: I will throw a bomb at you when which again,
Speaker 1: I'm just so glad that it's like they have these
Speaker 1: places they call them like Orca alleys where they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: they tend to kick it like in these spots, and
Speaker 1: so now they're just like just fucking avoid it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. How about we just fucking respect
Speaker 1: nature and I start trying to conquer it. But hey,
Speaker 1: shout out to the orcas, you know, do your thing,
Speaker 1: keep playing if that's what you want to say. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we love to play.
Speaker 2: We love to play that targeted play.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think it's beautiful though, Like honestly,
Speaker 3: like the orct have really become the symbol for the underdog,
Speaker 3: you know, Like it's really like the people who are like, yeah,
Speaker 3: go ahead and get them, you know, right, Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just it's a lot of incredibly rich people who don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck about the environment.
Speaker 1: So true, now, it's exactly that's why it's good. Like apparently,
Speaker 1: like in these Facebook groups there are people who are like,
Speaker 1: y'all are fucking really missing the point here, Like it's
Speaker 1: not about like they're not attacking you, like especially if
Speaker 1: they're just they're they're playing or whatever, they're not really
Speaker 1: going after you. But to understand that, just make way
Speaker 1: for nature, you know what I mean, because we know
Speaker 1: we don't know shit about the ocean as it.
Speaker 2: Is, Like people on a state of the art, million
Speaker 2: dollar thing are claiming victimhood like they're being attacked.
Speaker 1: Well, look, my boat was only six hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, Okay, you're at the low end of
Speaker 2: the spectrum there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they call me the broke boy in the
Speaker 1: young community. But that's okay, that's okay, that's okay. I'll
Speaker 1: own my truth. Also, I did not know that orchids
Speaker 1: are technically dolphins. Wait oh, they're mammals right, yeah, largest
Speaker 1: member of whales and mammals too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is there a whale family? I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be like now I'm playing myself to like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all fucking dolphins. Uh no, no, because it's whales. See,
Speaker 1: this is why I have to look, this is I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be transparent with donnies. I don't know. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know about whales either.
Speaker 1: They didn't know that the ship was a dolphin, so
Speaker 1: shout out dolphins too.
Speaker 3: I did not know there. But it makes sense though,
Speaker 3: because dolphins are actually pretty aggressive. They're very smart, very
Speaker 3: I actually swam with dolphins once, and now that I
Speaker 3: know about dolphins, I will never do that ship again.
Speaker 3: Wild ass dolphins in New Zealand right now.
Speaker 1: Oh wild, Yeah, I've heard too many videos where like
Speaker 1: dolphins are kind of like they're violating.
Speaker 4: They do violate. There are yes, we don't got to
Speaker 4: get into it, but yeah they violate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like enough that I'm like, Joe, what the like
Speaker 1: of that dolphin?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Cancel the dolphins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, canceled dolphins. I mean not all but hey, we
Speaker 5: got to be know dophins. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: all right, let's take a quick break and.
Speaker 1: We'll be coming right back to talk about some new
Speaker 1: bullshit available on lou Ray and we're back. So just
Speaker 1: full disclosure off top. I'm a I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a geriatric millennial. You knew that, which means I
Speaker 1: came of age. You know, with the media of the nineties,
Speaker 1: eight two thousands, it was all me true lies. I
Speaker 1: fucked with that movie Heavy, Okay. I thought that ship
Speaker 1: was action packed. I thought I was like, Yo, they
Speaker 1: got fucking Dana on the fucking Harrier jet and ship
Speaker 1: Crimson g hot. I was like, Yo, what the fuck
Speaker 1: this ship is? Child. Then I had some life experience,
Speaker 1: I learned some things, I met some people, I talked
Speaker 1: to people, I got some perspective and looking back kind
Speaker 1: of biggest piece of his long over trash that one
Speaker 1: of the biggest ones that came out in the nineties
Speaker 1: that does not get talked about enough. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm not gonna sit here and act like
Speaker 1: I wasn't fucking with True Lives before, and not that
Speaker 1: I was fucking with it, because I was, like the
Speaker 1: message in it. I was just a you know, a
Speaker 1: preteen teenager who liked watching ship blow up and watching
Speaker 1: somebody drop a Uzi down the staircase and then mark
Speaker 1: like twenty people with it if you remember that scene
Speaker 1: with Jamie the Curtis. So apparently it's coming back out
Speaker 1: on Blu Ray along with like a bunch of other
Speaker 1: James Cameron films, and you know, like it was a
Speaker 1: huge movie and like there was like even a TV
Speaker 1: show that got canceled that was based on it. It
Speaker 1: was not really it wasn't available to stream like at
Speaker 1: all until the end of last year. Like you had
Speaker 1: to like actually own that shit or buy that, you know,
Speaker 1: buy a digital copy or whatever you like. You couldn't
Speaker 1: just stream it. Now. It's just interesting because as this
Speaker 1: movie's coming back right the conversation sounds like me from
Speaker 1: the year nineteen ninety eight or something like that, going like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, True.
Speaker 2: Lies is coming back. Yes, True Lies.
Speaker 1: We love it, we love it, we love it. Like
Speaker 1: it's just like just such like one of the best
Speaker 1: action movies, rather than being like this was actually one
Speaker 1: of the most backwards racist movies of the nineties that
Speaker 1: we aren't really grappling with because in general, we don't
Speaker 1: really examine Islamophobia in this country because we've been fed
Speaker 1: as steady diet of like, oh, yeah, them people, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just the bad guys. Those are called those are
Speaker 1: just bad guys. And some recent articles like talking about
Speaker 1: the film's return, note that True Lies is now quote
Speaker 1: a bit dated now in terms of quote cultural depictions,
Speaker 1: which is that's the understatement of the century. First of all,
Speaker 1: I did not know this, so like the I mean,
Speaker 1: I did know that the film is sexist, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know that like at the time the outrage I
Speaker 1: was happening because I was like fucking ten years old.
Speaker 1: But like the James Cameron like dismissed a lot of
Speaker 1: these sort of accusations of sexism or like like what
Speaker 1: the fuck, Like what is this guy doing like this guy,
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Harry, he arrests his wife like disappears her
Speaker 1: and then puts her in a fucking interrogation room and
Speaker 1: then gets her to fucking like confess to some weird shit. Apparently,
Speaker 1: he said. In defense of that scene, James Camera said, quote,
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of guys say I need one
Speaker 1: of those rooms at my house. Bruh, that's not the
Speaker 1: fucking defense. You're okay, all right, well you've proved your critics.
Speaker 1: Well no, no, could you imagine he's like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just said that shit right now in the But like,
Speaker 1: even like women's rights groups they were even just straight
Speaker 1: up said they wouldn't protest the movie specifically because quote,
Speaker 1: compared to the Arabs in this film, women come off
Speaker 1: relatively well in this one. That they were even like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if really we have the most complaints
Speaker 1: here because they are doing these characters absolutely just disrespectfully filthy,
Speaker 1: and it's really I think it's just wild to call
Speaker 1: the movie like sort of dated, because even when the
Speaker 1: film came out, there were people protesting and boycotting the
Speaker 1: film because of how racist it was. They're in like
Speaker 1: fifty four Arab and Muslim countries just fucking banned it.
Speaker 1: They're like right now, fucking catch this shit here at all,
Speaker 1: which is so wild. And I'm like, when you look
Speaker 1: at all of the night, you're like, oh yeah, h
Speaker 1: m hm, oh yeah, it's all adding up because if
Speaker 1: the films is specifically right about Harry Trasker I believe
Speaker 1: is his name or whatever his his his full name is,
Speaker 1: and he's battling a Palestinian specifically Palestinian terrorist group called
Speaker 1: the Crimson Gihad. Okay, I don't know what that. I
Speaker 1: don't know where he fucking got that. Uh, maybe because
Speaker 1: Cameron just thought jihad means like violent gang or something,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you call him Crimson Gihad or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and these and like the Palesitinians in this film
Speaker 1: are portrayed as just like bloodthirsty, willing to torture like
Speaker 1: anyone they come across, because they are hell bent on
Speaker 1: destroying the United States and Israel. And by the way,
Speaker 1: like when you watch it, they are like absolute clowns too,
Speaker 1: like the most incapable people ever, Like they don't they
Speaker 1: don't have their camera batteries charged when they're trying to
Speaker 1: show off.
Speaker 2: Their basically stormtroopers.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, right exactly, which makes it easy, like when
Speaker 1: they're reduced to sort of like these comedic depictions that
Speaker 1: Harry can just be like aim, gun at and blast
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, yeah, cool, cool dude, Like I
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's a person really. And Jack Shaheen,
Speaker 1: who is the author of the book Real Bad Arabs
Speaker 1: called True Lies quote perhaps the most anti Palestinian film
Speaker 1: Hollywood has ever made. It says there is no form
Speaker 1: of communication more powerful than film in creating propaganda, and
Speaker 1: Golan and Globist took it to another level. A certainly
Speaker 1: American producers play a role in vilifying Palestinians. Perhaps the
Speaker 1: most anti Palaestinian film is True Lies.
Speaker 3: Is the full quote there, I didn't even like as
Speaker 3: a kid, same thing, Miles, Like, I grew up watching
Speaker 3: this and you know again ten so just wasn't critical
Speaker 3: of what was happening. But I never attached the Crimson
Speaker 3: Jihad or any of those folks to an actual nation,
Speaker 3: like and so I'm kind of getting my mind blown
Speaker 3: right now, like thinking about like it was it was
Speaker 3: they were supposed to be Palestinian in the film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: It's just it's really it's it's fucking bad. It's bad.
Speaker 1: It's bad. And like, even like Fox who put out
Speaker 1: the movie, they defended it by saying that, like the
Speaker 1: villains in the movie quote, we don't label them as
Speaker 1: Arabs or Muslims. That was that was actually a statement
Speaker 1: from Fox.
Speaker 2: Really we just cast them that way, like, yeah, what
Speaker 2: the fuck the.
Speaker 1: Actors are all yeah, like I think that we had
Speaker 1: some Arab performers in there. They are wearing the kafias.
Speaker 1: But it's like, sir, is it because you literally didn't
Speaker 1: say the words, That's how you're trying to make it
Speaker 1: Like it's such a such a cheap, fucking defense. And
Speaker 1: so they tried to fucking calm the waters a bit
Speaker 1: by adding a disclaimer in the film that said, quote,
Speaker 1: this film is a work of fiction and does not
Speaker 1: represent the actions or beliefs of a particular culture or religion.
Speaker 1: The wild part is that shit came at the very
Speaker 1: end of the film, and that statement came right after
Speaker 1: this one that said no animals were harmed in the
Speaker 1: making of this film.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: They were more concerned about the horse in that probably
Speaker 3: the representation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, that is wild to say. Literally,
Speaker 1: we're going to actually ensure that for people who are
Speaker 1: concerned about the animals that will take that will actually
Speaker 1: take priority, just in the sequence of disclaimers before we're like, yo,
Speaker 1: sorry if this was like straight up islamophobic propaganda. But
Speaker 1: the horses though, just just a reminder of the horse
Speaker 1: was cared for. Yeah, absolutely, And the dog, even the
Speaker 1: little dog that he would walk when he would just
Speaker 1: pull it along on the leash.
Speaker 3: Oh right, Oh my god, you're like you're sending me
Speaker 3: back like I'm trying to try to put Tom in real.
Speaker 4: Tom Arnold was in it. Tom Arnold was in it too.
Speaker 4: He played his like little sidekick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had a couple of really good lines though,
Speaker 3: Like there's this one silly line about how he broke
Speaker 3: up with his wife and he's like, what kind of
Speaker 3: sick bitch takes the ice trays out.
Speaker 1: Of the free Yeah, she took the ice cube trays.
Speaker 1: I remember that was like one of my favorite curse
Speaker 1: words like sequences in a movie. I was like, what
Speaker 1: kind of see bitch takes the ice?
Speaker 4: Miles is ASMR debut yes, bitch.
Speaker 1: She was from Tom Marnold fam I.
Speaker 3: Remember, remember like there's the angsty teen and she like
Speaker 3: and he like he hides a little camera in the
Speaker 3: and then and then she steals twenty bucks from him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and she gets on the on the bike with her
Speaker 3: boyfriend and then she ends up being in that final
Speaker 3: scene with Dana.
Speaker 2: Dana, you do a great job. Honestly, give me the guy,
Speaker 2: damn page the goddag and.
Speaker 4: He's like really rock hard data. Yeah it's a little soft.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there is there are some Okay, there are
Speaker 3: some great lines and they're Okay, this is not.
Speaker 1: A defensive film. We're just being.
Speaker 3: I'm just getting really missed out. Like my head is
Speaker 3: just full of these stupid like sound bites from that
Speaker 3: fucking you know movie, or.
Speaker 1: Like when Simon he's like, you're gonna shoot me. I
Speaker 1: got a tiny dick. It's pathetic. There's like there's that
Speaker 1: whole ship. There's a lot of again ship that made
Speaker 1: you laugh. That was that was just sandwiched around everything too,
Speaker 1: because also Simon's character was fucking grimy as fuck. Remember
Speaker 1: he was doing what the guy who sounded the dude
Speaker 1: who's the main character in Sound of Freedom was being
Speaker 1: accused of was saying, you got to pretend to be
Speaker 1: my wife on this mission and then coerce them into
Speaker 1: like sexual ship. Like that's exactly what Simon did anyway,
Speaker 1: when Bill Paxton, Yeah, yeah, I got a little ditch.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you are like taking it back right now,
Speaker 4: like I am just.
Speaker 1: So then when I I put it away forever memories,
Speaker 1: you know, these memories when I when I knew not
Speaker 1: of American hegemony, I mean I knew it was.
Speaker 3: Bad, and I knew it was stupid, like and especially
Speaker 3: when they make them all very goofy like the whole
Speaker 3: like just like when they're trying to have their big
Speaker 3: moment and then the battery dies in the camera.
Speaker 4: Like it to me, I was like, yeah, but again
Speaker 4: a kid, but this is so silly.
Speaker 3: I just looked at the poster for True Lies and
Speaker 3: it said when he said I do, he never said
Speaker 3: what he did kind of like it's all centered around
Speaker 3: his relationship because he's supposed to be like what a
Speaker 3: paper salesman?
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh my god, yeah, I mean it's just wild too,
Speaker 1: because like when when they were asked to James Cameron
Speaker 1: he like did not want to take any kind of responsibility,
Speaker 1: and he said, quote, I just needed some convenient villains.
Speaker 1: I could have picked Irish terrorists.
Speaker 2: Oh shut up, James, but marginalized brown people. That's that
Speaker 2: was your decision. Yeah, he loves it.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, did Avatar, which is basically yeah,
Speaker 3: I was just gonna John Smith in the space.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean he just but he got
Speaker 1: a blue face though too. That's how dedicated he was
Speaker 1: to the movement. I think it's also just like whack. Obviously,
Speaker 1: like we're in such an era to where the like
Speaker 1: labels of terrorism are thrown around like just basically deployed
Speaker 1: to discredit people that are in most cases oppressed and
Speaker 1: have no other recourse except for uprisings. And like you
Speaker 1: see that throughout history, like the kinds of groups that
Speaker 1: like now be like they called this group, they used
Speaker 1: to be called terrorists, and now we're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the people that were for black liberation or other kinds
Speaker 1: of liberation or you know, calling like you know when
Speaker 1: enslaved people were like okay, so this is not happening anymore,
Speaker 1: like the terrorism that these people endured in Haiti. You're
Speaker 1: like well okay, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's very cyclical. Yeah, we don't we don't
Speaker 2: know the difference like what is terrorism, what is what
Speaker 2: is fascism and what isn't That's been the hot topic
Speaker 2: reason like Trump can say the most fascist it in
Speaker 2: the world and then call all this enemies fascists, like
Speaker 2: there is really an effort to communists. Yeah, yeah, right
Speaker 2: is China everyone it seems to be not literally like
Speaker 2: understanding the definition of words is. It's very important, and
Speaker 2: I think we're using so so so much ability to
Speaker 2: see through the bullshit. It's very concerning what and.
Speaker 1: I think just Americans in general, like people don't am
Speaker 1: not I'd say not all Americans, but the concept of
Speaker 1: like oppression and hegemony are kind of like foreign because
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like living on this fucking
Speaker 1: spaceship that is like the hegemonic power, right, Like we're
Speaker 1: you talking about what that means. They're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: that looks bad, like without understanding, like do you this is?
Speaker 1: This is such a larger picture here and it's not
Speaker 1: just crimson gy hod and they their back their camera
Speaker 1: ran out of batteries, like but hey, when we want
Speaker 1: to reduce it to those kinds of things that flatten
Speaker 1: it into easy to understand things. It gets away from
Speaker 1: us and then we get this kind of shit.
Speaker 3: And that's why it's so important to have people from
Speaker 3: their own communities tell their stories, because you're gonna have
Speaker 3: someone like James Cameron tell the story and put their funky.
Speaker 4: Ass spin on it.
Speaker 1: Oh so you know something, you know nav you know, NAVI.
Speaker 4: Representation in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's someone on Instagram. They're like, I've been here
Speaker 1: the whole time talking about navvy rights and y'all really
Speaker 1: just fuck let me out of the conversation.
Speaker 4: There's someone who's already learning the Navy language, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, there's someone who's yeah, they're LARPing with the navvy
Speaker 3: and it's Yeah, it's one of those things where I
Speaker 3: just like, we we gotta like just James Cameron, like,
Speaker 3: let's make way for other creators and other filmmakers who
Speaker 3: have like really compelling stories to tell and are from
Speaker 3: those communities.
Speaker 4: Let's just do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because I'm just I'm so over I'm
Speaker 3: just so over it. Like the Yellowstone of it all
Speaker 3: where it's like someone comes in and like writes these
Speaker 3: lines and they're supposed to be from this community and
Speaker 3: it sounds insane and I'm just I'm just over it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Tom Arnold was a dumbass in that movie,
Speaker 3: and it was so funny to watch him just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean we used to just scream. I remember, like
Speaker 1: there was someone in our high school named Dana and
Speaker 1: we would just be like.
Speaker 3: That was That was probably his audition tape for the
Speaker 3: whole film was probably like I don't know, I can't
Speaker 3: that was a bad one. No, that was actually okay,
Speaker 3: But what is what is Arnold Swarzenegger without his allergy medicine?
Speaker 3: What is? I don't know?
Speaker 4: Anyway, that was my best attempt I call you that
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: Actually, it's fantastic. That's why I take twenty four tech.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic for people like me with the allergies aalogies.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Jackie, Yeah, it has been fantastic having
Speaker 1: you yet again. Where do the people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you here? You support you? And what is a tweet
Speaker 1: that you've been liking?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Okay, so you guys can find me at Jackie Comedy
Speaker 4: J A C K I E C O M.
Speaker 1: E d y.
Speaker 4: I'm on all things.
Speaker 3: That's on Twitter and Instagram and venmore you and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a tweet that I love. And this was on
Speaker 3: November first, as you guys know as Dave American Heritage Month.
Speaker 3: So it says this is from res Princess here at
Speaker 3: is chack and bake for this Native American Heritage Month.
Speaker 3: I'm accept payments for any time anyone has used the
Speaker 3: word tribe to describe their front group. And I saw
Speaker 3: that and I was like, fucking thank god because the
Speaker 3: amount of people who's it my tribe, my people, and
Speaker 3: it's like, bitch, I got a tribe. I gotta people,
Speaker 3: Like can you not talk about you and your little
Speaker 3: friends as a tribe?
Speaker 4: I would love that.
Speaker 3: So anyway, they shout outs to res Princess because that
Speaker 3: was a hilarious tweet, and I was like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the mood this month for.
Speaker 1: Sure, Oh for sure. Yeah. In so many ways that
Speaker 1: we can decolonize our own language too, Like I've been
Speaker 1: here saying stuff about total polls or my spirit animals
Speaker 1: and shit like that, and I'm like, yeah, there's other
Speaker 1: ways to expressing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like it just it irks me,
Speaker 3: like when it happens in the moments most like at work, like, hey,
Speaker 3: let's get a powout going, And I'm like, can you
Speaker 3: not like just there's other words to describe that, you know.
Speaker 4: It's simple.
Speaker 1: How about how about another useless ass meeting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you?
Speaker 4: And that should have been a fucking email. That should
Speaker 4: have been a fucking email is what that should be.
Speaker 2: I hate we save you. That's why if you're an ally,
Speaker 2: it's a good reason to get your tickets to good
Speaker 2: medicine right now. Yes, make sure get your tickets, make
Speaker 2: sure you support the community, learn something.
Speaker 3: Yes, go to PACNYC dot RG get your tickets again.
Speaker 3: Killer lineup. I'll see you guys there in New York.
Speaker 1: City, beautiful justin. Thanks so much man for co hosting today.
Speaker 1: Where do the people find you? Follow you? What to tweet?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Like all that?
Speaker 2: You can find me at j con the Smith that's
Speaker 2: j C O N T H E S M I
Speaker 2: t H. Only on Instagram. I don't have a very
Speaker 2: active social media presence, but I'm out here, you know,
Speaker 2: doing my thing. Uh piece of media I enjoyed. I
Speaker 2: was trying to come up with something cooler, but really.
Speaker 2: As Miles knows, I've been really into this Blue Rye
Speaker 2: show on Netflix. It's just I love seeing stories once
Speaker 2: again coming from people who have that lived experience, but
Speaker 2: trying to give you a relatable story that is just
Speaker 2: so fascinating that it stays with you for days afterwards.
Speaker 2: That's what happened with me. I don't know much about
Speaker 2: the Ato period of Japan during that time, but it
Speaker 2: really struck a chord with me as a person of
Speaker 2: mixed raced heritage to see like where you might stand
Speaker 2: in the history of your culture, like coming down on
Speaker 2: you as like kind of carrying two parts of your
Speaker 2: identity and you don't know what to do with it,
Speaker 2: and it's a struggle. But it's also such a beautiful story,
Speaker 2: Like all of the characters are fully developed, and even
Speaker 2: though you might predict one or two things that will
Speaker 2: shock you eventually, I want to shout out a specific
Speaker 2: episode because at one point they simultaneously start telling a
Speaker 2: story within a story within a story, and each of
Speaker 2: them moves their own insular narratives at a really fun pace,
Speaker 2: and then the overall story arc coincides with what's being
Speaker 2: told in all of these stories and it's just showing
Speaker 2: off the creator's ability to master their craft of storytelling.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of an ode to their daughter, the
Speaker 2: Michael Green and I want to make sure I get
Speaker 2: the name right, Amber Noizumi. They both created the the show,
Speaker 2: and it's a like an homage to their daughter, who
Speaker 2: they also called the Blue Eyed Samurai growing up, and
Speaker 2: they formed the show a little bit after that nickname
Speaker 2: came up. But man, it's so beautiful. It's very violent,
Speaker 2: so you know, don't you don't yeh yeah, yeah, beware,
Speaker 2: there's there's a wide yes, yeah. But the choreography like
Speaker 2: if you loved Avatar the Last Airbender, but you want
Speaker 2: a more grown up, less fantasy involved version of that,
Speaker 2: but but very moving. Nonetheless, Man, check the show out.
Speaker 2: I really hope it gets all the accolades.
Speaker 1: And what if you liked Avatar the James Cameron.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, blue eyed Samurai not blue face caricature.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what we need right now. And the
Speaker 2: name of that episode is called the Tale of the
Speaker 2: Ronan and the Bride, and you could watch it on
Speaker 2: your own. It's episode five. I believe you could watch
Speaker 2: it on your own. Is like a short film. It's
Speaker 2: like forty eight minutes, but the story they build up
Speaker 2: before and after it is so beautiful and worth checking out.
Speaker 4: It's also one on Rotten Tomatoes, so you sold me
Speaker 4: on that one justin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's oh man, you can finish it in the weekend.
Speaker 2: Told me, I think you'll you'll learn a lot about
Speaker 2: a lot of things here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, very cool. So wow, yeah like this shit,
Speaker 1: Like when you told me, I was like, that's I'm
Speaker 1: I was. I'm considered a half Japanese beast over there
Speaker 1: from back then. This is exactly me And it's dope
Speaker 1: too because it's voiced by Maya Erskine from Penn fifteen
Speaker 1: is biracial, white and Japanese. So this is down to everything. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: really dope show. Anyway. You can find me at Miles
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Speaker 1: Let's see a tweet I like comes from Ellerie Smith
Speaker 1: at Ellerie Smith tweeted when a restaurant only has their
Speaker 1: own homemade catchup, I'm like, don't you know hubris is
Speaker 1: the hero's fatal flaw, which I feel that it's like,
Speaker 1: what do you really do? Okay, Okay, we'll see you,
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Speaker 1: we post all the articles and clips and links that
Speaker 1: we talked about today, as well as a song that
Speaker 1: we're gonna ride out on. We are going to go
Speaker 1: out on this track, let me bring it back up.
Speaker 1: This is called Elsen by the band called La Lom
Speaker 1: l A l o M. They are an LA band,
Speaker 1: but they're kind of like, they're sort of trippy. They've
Speaker 1: they've got like Cumbia influences, but like also like this
Speaker 1: kind of psychedelic, nostalgic vibe to it. It feels like
Speaker 1: you listen into stuff like on an old radio or
Speaker 1: something like that. But this track is called Else by
Speaker 1: La Loon and it's dope, just some nice easy music
Speaker 1: to start warming us up for the weekend. Okay, that'll
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