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Speaker 1: Hello, Internet, and welcome to season three one three, Episode

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Speaker 1: four of The dailyes Eye. Guys are production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday. What that means,

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Speaker 1: November sixteenth, That's what that means, which means it's also

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Speaker 1: a World Pancreatic Cancer Day. International Check your damn Wiper's day.

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Speaker 1: Check your window, your windshield wipers because let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: I used to not give a fuck and they were

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Speaker 1: just windows smears and they do not actually keep you

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Speaker 1: saved during inclement weather. Also International Day for Tolerance, National

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Speaker 1: Rural Health Day, National Indiana Day, National Button Day, And

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Speaker 1: what the fuck is Great American Smokeout Day? Oh they saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't be smoking cigarettes no more, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Unless that's your five, but hey leave it alone. And hey,

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Speaker 1: something close to my heart National fast Foods. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that's a good thing. That's just a vice. Okay?

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Speaker 2: Uh who am I?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I'm Miles Gray aka AMA Chiatric. Get

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Speaker 1: hurt like this, pick my back, won't stop, won't quit.

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Speaker 1: Just pulled it, pulled it, pulled it, pulled it pulled

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Speaker 1: it now, pulled it good. Pulled that back that I

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Speaker 1: knew I would my neck my back, kicked the ball

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Speaker 1: and heard a snap shout out to Jimboku on discord.

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Speaker 1: You heard I've strained my back watching TV and I

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Speaker 1: and I did my back. It's getting a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: But thank you for that at AKA if I see it,

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Speaker 1: and thank you to the people that reached out with

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Speaker 1: They're like, hey, just check out this place for your back.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate all the outreach. Uh. And I am

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by my co host. You know

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Speaker 1: a wonderful guy. You know, someone who's got many talents,

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Speaker 1: someone who is not also nice with the DAW's for

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Speaker 1: editing purpose, but nice with the DAWs for music making purposes.

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Speaker 1: He's a fantastic DJ. He has a voice that has

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Speaker 1: the quality of vocal butter. Okay, that's what we like

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Speaker 1: to say around here. That's a good thing. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to the microphone. Today's guest call host Justin Connor.

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Speaker 2: This year is the story of my life before is

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Speaker 2: to host the daily Ziight guys, and it feels so

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Speaker 2: sad here without Jack. I absolutely love to host with

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Speaker 2: my oh how many days in the year. And I'm

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Speaker 2: just y'all, it's the shutdown shy guy on a ten

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Speaker 2: years SoCal sabbatical, ready to do damage to some clavicles. There,

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Speaker 2: you gos go, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, mc J I see you out there. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for so much for joining us. As you know,

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Speaker 1: Jack is on assignment in uh, he's he's he's recovery.

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Speaker 1: He's under the weather. But that's how that's how we move,

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Speaker 1: you know, we on.

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Speaker 2: An innerspace adventure and yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. But rest up, Jack, I know you'll

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Speaker 1: be back. Uh. And hey, let's get to our guest,

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Speaker 1: somebody who's honestly one of my favorite guests. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: and I've been I'm actually making an effort to have

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Speaker 1: them back as much as possible because our shared love

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Speaker 1: for the state of California. Look, I'm from so called

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Speaker 1: they represent the Yay area.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is somebody who fantastic stand up comedian,

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Speaker 1: a writer, an actor, producer. You can find some of

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Speaker 1: their very writings in things like We Had a Little

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Speaker 1: Real Estate Problem, The Unherlded Story of Native Americans and comedy.

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Speaker 1: Also seen them on Comedy Central Team Coco Illuminative twenty

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Speaker 1: five Native American Comedians to follow. I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: you read the Vulture, you read the La Times, maybe

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Speaker 1: listen to the Daily ZEITGEI said, know how fantastic this

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Speaker 1: person is. Please welcome to the microphone, Jackie Kha.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Miles, what a beautiful introduction there. Oh I'm just feeling great, amazing.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I was like talking and I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: a Jackie yet.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love being here, I love I love hanging out

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Speaker 3: with you. It's always a good time. It's Native American

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Speaker 3: I love being here. You guys are the best. It's

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Speaker 3: great and I love just getting to hang with Justin today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We were talking yesterday, me and Myles, and we

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Speaker 1: We already know. I'm like, man, fuck with Jackie heavy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know, ever since you corrected me when I was

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Speaker 3: You remember that slide show. For the record, it is side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what. But that's what it's about. You know,

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Speaker 1: you need those people to come to hey. Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stupid out here it's all love.

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Speaker 2: It's all love.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't Stupid in the bay is a good thing. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: we love being stupid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go down stupid. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: We already know. But anyway, have you been You've been good.

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Speaker 2: I've been good.

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Speaker 4: I've been good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would saying it's a it's been a busy month.

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Speaker 3: Things are good. I've got some projects going that I

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Speaker 1: And it's you got your show good Medicine, right, it's

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Speaker 1: you're you're doing in New York. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we debut at the Pearlman Performing Arts Center PACK

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Speaker 3: and YC in twenty twenty four, so February ninth.

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Speaker 1: Basically, I know you're in New York.

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Speaker 4: You've got to come.

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Speaker 2: Frost your calendars. It's not too early jot it down

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Speaker 2: so you don't forget.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a really great time to

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Speaker 3: check out PACK and YC. So just for folks who

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Speaker 3: to be part of their inaugural season is such an honor.

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Speaker 3: And the week that we're perform forming the fourteen ninety ones.

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Speaker 3: They're an all Native comedy sketch group. Folks may know

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Speaker 3: them from Reservation Dogs, which is one of their biggest

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Speaker 3: projects that blew up on FX and their play Between

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Speaker 3: Two Knees is also going to be at the Pelman

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Speaker 3: out Good Medicine. We've got two shows that night. We've

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Speaker 3: got a killer lineup. We've got Dallas Goldtooth. Folks know

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Speaker 3: him as William knife Man from res Dogs. Oh you

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Speaker 3: guys know him. Jannash Meeting, amazing actor also in res

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Speaker 3: Dogs and Brutherford falls At, Adrian challipaw Brian Bahi. He

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Speaker 3: debuted some really cool stuff on Comedy Central. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a killer lineup. Come through, check

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Speaker 3: then on Saturday, we've got a panel about Native representation

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Speaker 4: So it's going to be it's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 1: You guys, come through, Please come through. I know you're

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Speaker 1: that gang to the show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That sounds like a memorable show, Like that sounds

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah you're not here, Yeah, yeah, some some

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Speaker 4: And there you go, you there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we changed hearts and minds one joke at a time, y'all.

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Speaker 3: But also above and beyond everything is funny, and it's

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Speaker 3: kind of exactly we'll come through.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because who's more funny than oppressed people?

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Speaker 4: But we know how to laugh. We don't time.

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Speaker 1: You know how to make you know how to make

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Speaker 1: gold necklaces out of lemons, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: We know how to go beyond lemonade. Anyway, Jackie, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to know you even better. But let's tell

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Speaker 1: some people what are not some people? All the people

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Speaker 1: because Congressman Chip Roy he had one of those moments

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Speaker 1: But luckily the solution is so simple and it's actually

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Speaker 1: just a quick reminder as we deal with increased anti Semitism,

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Speaker 1: much the media informs our perception of certain groups in

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Speaker 1: the United States. Got to talk about the movie True Lies,

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Speaker 1: because that's coming back on Blu Ray And if you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about a stinky, a Islamophobic piece of trash,

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Speaker 1: it's fucking True Lies. And I've like always like known this,

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Speaker 1: And especially in the time that we're in. So we're

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Speaker 1: a second to slightly deprogram ourselves of that propaganda we

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Speaker 1: were just inhaling in the nineties. Okay, But before we

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Speaker 1: do that, Jackie was something from your search history that's

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Speaker 1: revealing about who you are, what you're into right now.

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Speaker 3: So I always do a lot of my googling right

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Speaker 3: my questions for the evening. So City of Angels is

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Speaker 3: what came up in my search history last night, Altis

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Speaker 3: It was part of the City of Angels. Okay, killer

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Speaker 3: Now, he like lived in a very creepy, very haunted

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Speaker 3: have watched it, but if your native, like, take your time,

434
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 3: you don't need to see it right away, schedule a

435
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 3: therapy session in advance and after, you know, like you

436
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 3: just got to really be there to support yourself because

437
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 3: it's a heavy one.

438
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,919
Speaker 4: It's so heavy.

439
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are those films that are made for audiences

440
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: that like you're like, that's important for them to understand.

441
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 1: But if you come from that community, I mean, it's

442
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 1: like that's why man, like Twelve Years of Slave and

443
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: certain movies like that. I'm like, bro, I mean, go ahead, like,

444
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: if you need to see it, go ahead, Like I

445
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 1: don't need I don't need to be convinced or know

446
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 1: even more or a depiction of it. But I get

447
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: it because everyone, you know, we grapple with our own

448
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: personal histories in our own ways. But yeah, if like

449
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: Leonardo Dicapriolan out here on some like land back shit,

450
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: then what's up? You know what I mean?

451
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my main concern when starting to see

452
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 2: the movie being promoted. You know, the audience reaction of

453
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 2: the trailers was immediately, wow, that looks beautiful, Wow, that

454
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 2: looks great. And I saw Martin Scorsese. I didn't know

455
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 2: much about the film, and then I was like, this

456
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: seems like this could be very delicate and hard to

457
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: pull off for a white man in his eighties, I believe.

458
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 2: And I and the entire time as I was hearing

459
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 2: the reaction to the film and how the hype build up,

460
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 2: I was like, why isn't there any criticism? I was like,

461
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 2: is it really that good? Did he really handle it

462
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 2: that carefully and with that much depth and understanding? And

463
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: I'm hearing that it's like kind into but not as

464
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: much as you'd hope. Is that I don't want to

465
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: put words in your mouth, Jackie. Is that I mean?

466
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: I guess, Oh, sorry, go ahead, No, I'm just saying

467
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: or it feels like it's just inherently hard to make

468
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 1: a movie like this, yeah yeah, and pull it off

469
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: in the way that you need to. Like it's yeah right.

470
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but so does that I guess my I guess

471
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: my misgiving with is like should was he the best

472
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 2: person to do it? Or I guess because my whole

473
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: my whole reaction to it when I first saw I

474
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: was like, really, Martin Scorsese and that that was That

475
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 2: was when I guess. I was like the Irishman fine,

476
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 2: but this felt that different for me, and I was like,

477
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't as excited as I thought the hype was,

478
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 2: and I was questioning, like why I wasn't getting there right?

479
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean, so, so, it's actually based on a book

480
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: called Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grant, who's

481
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: a non native person who writes about the Osage murders

482
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: and the birth of the FBI. But so so yes,

483
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: so that this essentially is a film based off of

484
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: the books. So I think in that way, a lot

485
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: of I didn't read the book, I'll tell you that.

486
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: But again, I'm not like jumping into reading about these

487
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 3: things myself, but I have quite a few friends who

488
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 3: read it. And they were like, okay, Like it was

489
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: definitely a little bit more mystery oriented in the book

490
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 3: according to you know, my friend's assessment of reading it.

491
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were like, yeah, I think it did

492
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: sort of a good job of laying out what happened

493
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 3: in the book. But at the same time, this, like

494
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: I said, this is a very heavy topic for this

495
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: very real community that's living with this right now. And

496
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: so I think that's the piece of it where I

497
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm just naive, but I was like, look,

498
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: this is this is Hollywood. We can we have some

499
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 3: creative license. Like I thought that the murders might be

500
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: like not so in your face. Like I felt like maybe,

501
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 3: and I felt like, maybe there's some creative interpretation of

502
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: what happened to inject more agency and power into the

503
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: native perspective, because that's what I would do if I

504
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to do it, right, I'd be like,

505
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 3: all right, here's a story, but here's a story I

506
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: want to tell about this story, you know, And so

507
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: I think, like I guess I was silly to think

508
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 3: maybe it wouldn't be so in your face. And then

509
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: the opening scene, like a couple of moments into the

510
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: opening scene, we see our first murder, and I'm like, aha,

511
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 3: it was just so real, and it was like literally

512
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 3: the people were gasping in the audience.

513
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, and.

514
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: So you said that, yeah, yeah, so but I get it,

515
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 3: like I think probably, And I haven't read any of

516
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: their sort of the film, the directors, and I haven't

517
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: read any of what they've said in response to any

518
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: of some of the criticism that's coming out, but I'm

519
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 3: sure they're like, we want it to be real, we

520
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: want it to be in your face because we don't

521
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: want to hide the horrors of what this was. But simultaneously,

522
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: if that's your goal, then I'm gonna recommend dat. If

523
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: people do not watch, you know, anyone who has been

524
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 3: from a community that has been targeted and oppressed in

525
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: a very violent, awful way. That's where I'm like, ooh,

526
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: I I just just be prepared, basically. And Lily Gladstone,

527
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: who's the amazing actor who plays Molly, she even said

528
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: because unfortunately, because of SAG, and because of the SAG

529
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: after strike, wasn't even able to promote or say much

530
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: about it. And so finally once the strike was lifted

531
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 3: and all that, Lily came forward and said, like, please

532
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: take care of yourselves because this is a heavy one.

533
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that's kind of the vibe we

534
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: should have gone in with. But unfortunately, because of the strike,

535
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 3: no one was able to say much, you know. So

536
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 3: and I watched it like I had an advanced screening

537
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: and so like I saw it with a lot of

538
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: people like well before it came out, and so you know. Anyway,

539
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: So also I think it's a little overrated, and I

540
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: do think that people who don't know about the story

541
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: should absolutely watch it. And again, amazing acting. And I

542
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: do hope that Lily Gladstone gets a knom like she

543
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: has to, like she fucking killed it and she and

544
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: people might recognize her from Reservation Dogs. She plays the

545
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 3: anti who's in prison. So and I can't remember her

546
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 3: name right now, I'm sorry, but anyway, killer acting, a

547
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 3: lot of amazing acting.

548
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: It was a good nuanced take. I like that.

549
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you just split the room because we

550
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: didn't see it.

551
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: I wanted you guys to watch it, and I want

552
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: to watch it, please, and let's debrief this case.

553
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: You need to watch it. Absolutely. I was on the

554
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: fence and now the fact that you were like, no,

555
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: it's it's essential. You're just gonna need to take care

556
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: of yourself. That over the edge.

557
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's hard I think in general, Yeah, like

558
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: to see just that kind of untethered violence towards marginalized people,

559
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: that is that goes unpunished. It's hard to watch that

560
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: over and over and over.

561
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: And then it's like and then Native women on top

562
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: of that, like we already have, like folks are familiar

563
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: with mm i W murdered Indigenous women. So this is

564
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 3: nothing new, and it's just really hard to stomach. And

565
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: you know, and also it's three and a half hours long,

566
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: so do not drink anything before you go in.

567
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, or we're a diaper, you know.

568
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you got to do?

569
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: You know, there's no there's no intermission, it's just NonStop.

570
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be

571
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: right back and we'll find out what's overrated and then

572
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: we'll get some news and we're back. Let's switch gears.

573
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: We didn't forget about your underrated Jackie. What's something some

574
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: things I don't know what's something that's underrated.

575
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: I think what's really underrated is acupuncture.

576
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm in that point in my life where

577
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 3: I'm having psiatic nerve pain.

578
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: What no fun? No fun.

579
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: And and honestly, it happened because I just got really sedentary.

580
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 3: I started working from home about three and a half

581
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: years ago, and I stay working at home, so I'm

582
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 3: not doing that like active movement, just running to and

583
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: from the office like I used to. So anyway, I

584
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: had a really bad flare up and one of my

585
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: good friends was like, Yo, you got to check out

586
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: this acupuncture clinic. This woman's amazing. You go in there,

587
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: you walk out with no back pain, and you, guys,

588
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: I'm not even lying. I would be pretty aggressive about it.

589
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: Go three times a week. But yeah, I have got

590
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: it down to a point where I'm sitting, I'm able

591
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: to stand for long periods of time.

592
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 4: Like it's such a what's so cool about it that

593
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 4: I didn't know?

594
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: I don't know the total science behind it, you know,

595
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: but this is like traditional Chinese medicine.

596
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 4: It is used widely across the globe.

597
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: Multiple countries have it just built into their medical systems,

598
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: you know. But the US is, you know, a little

599
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: on the fence, probably because they love pharmaceuticals anyway.

600
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well did it come from one of the colonial

601
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: powers exactly?

602
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: We don't know if we can trust it, yeah, exactly.

603
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: But it basically gets your body into a relaxed state.

604
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: And so like in the beginning, I was nervous because

605
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm afraid of needles, but you kind of just get

606
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: used to it after a while, and they'll like put

607
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 3: like a couple of pins like like for me anyway,

608
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: based on what I need in my on the top

609
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: of my scalp right here, and I swear whenever she

610
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 3: pops that in, it's like my body goes m like

611
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: it just it kind of like powers down in a

612
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 3: really beautiful way. Because I'm a very active creative and

613
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: sometimes I cannot get this thing to shut down on

614
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: its own. So I love to just chill. And I'll

615
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: just like chill there for like forty minutes with these

616
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: little needles on me, and then when I walk out,

617
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: I feel like this little post acupuncture glow where I'm

618
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: just like.

619
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 4: Everything's beautiful and I'm relaxed, you know.

620
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 3: And so I just think it's really underrated and I

621
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: don't hear enough people talking about it, and like you

622
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 3: kind of depending on your healthcare. You may or may

623
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: not have options, but there are definitely community clinics that

624
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: try to get this tutted more reasonable sliding scale. So

625
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's available a lot of places, but I

626
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: could I couldn't tell you like how surprised I was

627
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: at how it was able to address like my acute

628
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: like I was having a major flare up. And so

629
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go continuously and yeah, so I'm a

630
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: big fan and I highly recommend it for anybody.

631
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: I need that for my back after I slipped and kicked.

632
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, Miles, you need that.

633
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, it's it's so wild you

634
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: say that I have. I spend a lot of hours

635
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: in this Batman chair that I'm sitting in right now.

636
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: And as I was doing the AKA, right after I

637
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: was done, say, I don't know if you can, guys

638
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 2: noticed me, my back started freaking out. I have no

639
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: idea what happened, was yo, I have no I think

640
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: I busted my classical my oh my god, no, no,

641
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: my back was spasming, and I was I just turned

642
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: thirty two, so I'm discovering new things about my body

643
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: all the time, and this really you hit on a

644
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: number of things. I definitely spend too much time in

645
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: a chair. I become more sedentary as well, and I'm

646
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: my lower back is doing some weird stuff, and I

647
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: think I also have a hard time relaxing, especially if

648
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm like in a in a place where I think,

649
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Speaker 2: you know, the idea of massage and like spas and

650
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: stuff it really really appeals to me. I love the

651
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: idea of it, but being comfortable in that space, like

652
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: I cannot turn my head off. I'm constantly like body

653
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: conscious and wondering what's going on. The fact that someone

654
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: can just like place a thing on me it's and

655
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: just take a step back. That's really appealing to me

656
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: in a way I never thought about before. I mean,

657
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: it's powerful.

658
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Speaker 3: It's powerful stuff, and like again like I don't know

659
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: all this su vices of it. It's basically about energy flow,

660
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: and it's about basically cleaning up those sort of intersections

661
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: of energy that are going through our body and some

662
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: of them are kind of stuck, if you will. And

663
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: it's really big on like lowering inflammation. Like there's just

664
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Speaker 3: a lot of people I know who now it's a

665
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Speaker 3: part of their general health care practices. It's a week

666
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: they go to their acupuncturists, they do their thing. But

667
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: I will like fully take naps in that chair, you know.

668
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: So anyway, I just I love it and I feel

669
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Speaker 3: like and you said, you just turned thirty two, Happy,

670
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: happy birthday, belated birthday. And that's about that age when

671
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Speaker 3: stuff starts to move around and I feel like it's

672
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Speaker 3: really taken the like I need to start building stuff

673
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Speaker 3: into my regular practice because it's just going to keep.

674
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Speaker 4: Getting more challenging.

675
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I take care yourself, unless unless we can find

676
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Speaker 1: the found of youth, you know what I mean?

677
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: Right right?

678
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: Or that just means, you know, taking the blood of

679
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Speaker 1: younger people and then to put it in your body

680
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Speaker 1: and maybe that works. I don't know if people are

681
00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: trying it.

682
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, a couple of bong rips. It's all however

683
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Speaker 2: you get through your day. It's however you get.

684
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Speaker 1: Through yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the bong of youth. That's

685
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: what I call it, the blunt of youth, you know

686
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? Who would have known that the secret

687
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: to long life was in a pack of backwoodsy Okay,

688
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: let's move on to some news. The GOP. We were

689
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: just talking about how the habit of tripling and doubling,

690
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: quadrupling down on this terrible hand of like transphobia and

691
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: healthcare denial or health access to healthcare denial is like

692
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Speaker 1: their whole thing, and they keep losing. They're like, no,

693
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: we can win, man, we can win. And also, I

694
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: know it's a total clown show in the Congress, but

695
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: like we can't even keep the government funded, but don't worry,

696
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: you still vote for us. There's this moment on Tuesday

697
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: where Chip Roy, who's a congressman of Texas, was getting

698
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: really upset with just kind of like yo, like there's

699
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: so much infighting, like we can barely keep the government funding.

700
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Speaker 1: What like, just started grand standing as if he wasn't

701
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Speaker 1: a Republican too. But it's just interesting to see him

702
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: come for his fellow colleagues on the right because he's

703
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: big mad about the perceived nonsense that's happening, although he

704
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: probably isn't. He's just he's probably doing this to help

705
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: his election chances. But anyway, let's listen to Chip Roy.

706
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Speaker 2: One thing.

707
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Speaker 6: I want my Republican colleagues to give me one thing,

708
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 6: one that I can go campaign on and say we

709
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 6: did one anybody's sitting in the complex if you want

710
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 6: to come down to the floor and come explain to

711
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 6: me one material, meaningful, significant thing the Republican majority has done.

712
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: So that's very interesting. It should be noted that he

713
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: decided to talk with his chest out like that when

714
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: it was empty. So can't really give you full points

715
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: there chip for going after your colleagues because you're like,

716
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: all right, everybody gone, now watch this shit. Because also,

717
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: let's like this is where it's a little bit funny, right,

718
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: I get that he's saying, like, name one thing, but sir,

719
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: you are wasting your time trying to get divers the

720
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: bills like canned from the Department of Defense, or you know,

721
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: going after just like very basic things like like there's

722
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: a federal law that bans people from blocking abortion clinics

723
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: and he wanted to repeal that. So, sir, you're you're

724
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: putting a lot of your energy behind shit that I

725
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: don't know if you can actually go back to your

726
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: constituents and be like, yeah, I did that, I kept

727
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: a rainbow flag out of the Pentagon. Okay, But it's

728
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: just like one of those things where it's like a

729
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: little bit of trying to say like I'm better than everybody,

730
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: but if you really look at the receipts, you're like, bro,

731
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: you were what the fuck are you saying for? Really?

732
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

733
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

734
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Speaker 2: He reminds me of my dog who makes a huge

735
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Speaker 2: frust room. There's like a shadow at the door, and

736
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: as soon as you open it up, she's like, oh,

737
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: new friend, It's yeah, I don't, I can't. I'm really tired.

738
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: I so I love to see people being passionate. I

739
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: just hate to see people being inauthentic. And it's I

740
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: think that's what's really made the populous like so apathetic,

741
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: cause it's hard to trust anything in politics. It always

742
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: has been. But even when they're it's like some modicum

743
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: of like an impassioned speech, it's always tacked on with

744
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: the caveat of like, you know, this isn't real, this

745
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: is a performance, blah blah blah. And I just can't

746
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: sit here and stuff because otherwise when it's when it's real,

747
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: you get that weird ship like we got the other

748
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: day with Mark Wayne Mullen trying to beat people up

749
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: in like a Senate chamber, and that was a real

750
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: impassion thing, but it was so stupid that everyone felt

751
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: embarrassed by it, and this is these are the options

752
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: we have. It's fake or it's stupid.

753
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's not that was more. I feel like

754
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: toxic mask. I don't want to I don't care, and

755
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: you fuck with my mask. Oh I'll fight you right here.

756
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: I want to pretend to take my wedding ring off

757
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: because I don't want to hurt anyone exactly like an idiot.

758
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah if you started taking his wristwatch off and doing

759
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: the whole clear out of my okay, and they're like,

760
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: oh he's wearing black Air Forces.

761
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh oh shit, okay, Oh.

762
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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. Maybe maybe Mark Wayne

763
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: is trying to make.

764
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Speaker 2: Smokest even just smears it on about to get ready,

765
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: He's like, let me till.

766
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: My hair back really quick, let me take my farings out.

767
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah the.

768
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: Baby, hold my baby, hold my baby. But yeah, it's

769
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, this is kind of like what's what it's

770
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: been reduced to. It's just people getting clips on Twitter

771
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: and then hopefully they can campaign on that. Meanwhile, like

772
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: the Democrats don't have to do anything because the Republicans

773
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: are so bad, so everybody loses because they can just

774
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: be like because everyone's just like, this is gonna make

775
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: re election so easy for all the Democrats. It's like, yeah,

776
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: but here's the issue here. If we're not trying to

777
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: change the status quo for something that looks a little

778
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: more equitable, then we're not doing we're doing fuck all.

779
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: We're actually going backwards. And I just I always say, like,

780
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: I just hate how easy like it is for Democrats

781
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: when you have Republicans like this who are just like

782
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: completely lost the plot. But anyway, here we are. Shall

783
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: we move on to something a little bit more, I guess,

784
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: more chaotic than the dysfunction of Congress. A horse being

785
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: loose on a plane. I saw this headline it said

786
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: plane forced to return to JFK Airport after horse on

787
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: board gets loose. Now I'm pretty sure everyone is picturing

788
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: like a full on fucking horse, like fucking up the

789
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: fuselage right like where people are like, ah uh, well,

790
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: it turns out because obviously that shit wouldn't happen, Although

791
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why. My mind's like how to get

792
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: the horse in the plane like that It was in

793
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: the cargo hold and got out of the its crate,

794
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: which is why the plane had to land and which

795
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: is interesting too. The pilot was like, no, we're good

796
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: to fly. But the pilot was really concerned about the

797
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: well being of the horse and was saying like, hey,

798
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: when we landed, JFK, like, we need veterinary care to

799
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: check this horse out, like want to make sure this

800
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: horse is doing all good. And I'm like, damn, like

801
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: this's a lot of you know, we don't even give

802
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: a fucking human beings this kind of consideration. But but

803
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: go on, pilot, Yeah, bring this thing down and save

804
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: the horse. But yeah, I didn't realize horses do fly

805
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: on planes all the time.

806
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know this either. And as someone who

807
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: I think we've talked many times about like the anxieties

808
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: of flying on air traveling when you have a pet

809
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: and you're worried about like it shitting in the airport

810
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: or whatever, I have committed to never taking my dog

811
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: on a plane unless I somehow make enough money to

812
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: like go on a chartered flight at some point.

813
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: But may only fly private, right, right, But I.

814
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: Was thinking, why isn't there a airline that caters to

815
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: animal lovers, pet owners or whatever where you can make it.

816
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 2: So it's like, no, we're pretty chill about your dog

817
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: shitting in the eye. We have someone to clean it up.

818
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: I would pay extra for that.

819
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: You would, Yeah, you know that fucking airline would smell

820
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: like straight.

821
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: Up, and that's fine. I don't care. I don't have

822
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: I don't. I pretty much have to pay like so

823
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: much money to put my dog in daycare when I

824
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: like to travel myself. I don't know if they went

825
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: around to take care of it.

826
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: I guess you could make it work if you use

827
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Speaker 1: like a decommissioned like C one thirty or something like

828
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: a military aircraft.

829
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: Where and limit it too. Don't make it like three

830
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: hundred people on a plane, like make it very limited.

831
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Or just being like or when you get on, you're like,

832
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: y'all know what time it is. There's no fucking snacks, bro,

833
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: this is the bus for your dog to ship on

834
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: while we go to fucking Buffalo, New York. Yeah.

835
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: And also we're not doing we're not doing twelve hour flights.

836
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: We're doing like two hours, you know whatever, where your

837
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: dog can handle it. I'm trying to be I'm trying

838
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: to be practical here, but.

839
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, do you have any experience with

840
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: horses on a with traveling with horses. I mean I

841
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: knew somebody who was dating like a horse, a horse

842
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: girl for lack of a better term, a horse. Yeah.

843
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: You know, like there's like the girls I like, I

844
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: have a horse and they're like and you're like, and

845
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: you realize that They're like, oh, that means you were

846
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: rich as fuck. I didn't. We just thought you were

847
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: always like drawing pictures of horses and ship. But my

848
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: friend was dating someone like that who like came from

849
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: apparently like hidden dynastic wealth and was like flying.

850
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 7: Her horses like all over the place. And that was

851
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 7: the first time I heard him like you can just

852
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 7: put them. They're like, yeah, let's how you get them

853
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 7: across the country, and like you need your horse to

854
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 7: go Again, I'm ignorant of the those things that are

855
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 7: all equine, but apparently like this is normal too. There

856
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 7: was like a bear cub got loose on a flight

857
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 7: to bag Dad if that was like on the internet,

858
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 7: where like a little bear club bear cub bear crub

859
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 7: bear cub.

860
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: Was just wilding out on the plane. And then also

861
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: like on viet Jet there was a flight where someone

862
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: an otter and a rat that were smuggling into someone's suitcase,

863
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: got out.

864
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: No, no, man, this is too much. I already hate

865
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: flying to begin with. If some animal pops up and

866
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: some shit, I'm out, you know, I.

867
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: Mean you can't be out. That's the whole problem. You're

868
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: just stuck on a plane with these critters.

869
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't just open the emergency exit.

870
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you know what I mean, deal with it

871
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 3: that way. I mean it would be terrifying. Can you imagine,

872
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: Because here's what's happening. Right, They're in the plane and

873
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: they hear clank clank, clank, clink clink.

874
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 4: They're like, what the fuck.

875
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: Is that sound? Oh? Ship?

876
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 4: The horse cut right?

877
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: Those you don't want to have like barn problems on

878
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: a plane, you know, the horse got out like that.

879
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: I I like that in the context of like a

880
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, like a rural setting, but not on my

881
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: overpriced flight, because it's our shi It's already too much.

882
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 4: It's too much, it's too much.

883
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: And then also like poor horses, Like horses are actually

884
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: really sensitive, so I'm sure damn horse was having the

885
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: worst panic attack of its life yet five thousand feet

886
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: in the air. Very unfair to that point, not.

887
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: Even find private.

888
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one of the that that honestly is

889
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: one of the reasons I don't even I don't think

890
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: my dog would like flying private. She's that bougie. She

891
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: would make me drive her like I don't.

892
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't like resisting getting on the plane when.

893
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely why do we walking past.

894
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: The late flat seats? Why are we walking past these

895
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: seats the back? Yeah?

896
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. I think, yeah,

897
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: I think I would always could. I will take four

898
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: extra travel days to like take my dog. Planes freaked

899
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: me out so much already, Like you said, it's too expensive,

900
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: it's too uncomfortable. We already dealing with people taking their

901
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: shoes off. I don't want to deal with.

902
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: When you people with the feet. Yeah, I'll take a

903
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: horse over a foot any day. Yeah.

904
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't need I don't need any of that.

905
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: Wasn't that an RFK junior thing? Recently he went to

906
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: like like an airport bathroom without socks or shoes on,

907
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: like you know when you do.

908
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Someone caught him walking through first class one to the bathroom.

909
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, thank you? So yeah, I think I

910
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: think sure, maybe we need to relook at how we're

911
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: transporting these animals, because that doesn't sound like it would.

912
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you get out of that without

913
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: traumatizing the horse, like.

914
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, give a bunch of horses or something.

915
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I think it's still probably

916
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: going to be traumatized.

917
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard. I heard it was not

918
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: really for humans at first.

919
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: More tranquilizer find it at any concert.

920
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, right exactly, and now at therapist too.

921
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, yeah, it's the hottest rage in l a.

922
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 6: Hell.

923
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think in the West coast too, like

924
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: it's you see it up and down. Look, we're people

925
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: understand the power the things that can be unlocked with psychedelics. Anyway,

926
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: let's move on to uh, orcas, our brethren in the

927
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: fight against you know, just just obscene wealth and also

928
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: fishing boats. You know, it's not really on the fishermen,

929
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: but in the last year there was like just increased

930
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: reporting of orcas killer whales going after yachts and fishing

931
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: boats in the Atlantic, primarily near the Iberian Peninsula, but

932
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: just like generally in the Atlantic, and some boats look

933
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: damage so bad they fucking sank and others were like

934
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: disabled to the point that they needed to be towed

935
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: because like the rudders were like bitten off by the

936
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: orcas and shit, and they're like, I can't fucking steer

937
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: this shit anymore, Like what the fuck am I supposed

938
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: to do? So this has led to many in the sailing, yachting,

939
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: boating world of that region the world to like get together.

940
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: They're like Facebook groups where they're like, Yo, I figured

941
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: it out. I know how to actually deter the orcas.

942
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: Some swear that blasting heavy metal from an underwater speaker

943
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: will help. Others have said that painting the whole different

944
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: colors will not attract them. Meanwhile, on Facebook groups, they're

945
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: saying that scattering sand behind the boat will maybe throw

946
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: them off, and others have gone as far as throwing

947
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: fucking firecrackers in the water to scare them, which every

948
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: expert is like, don't fucking throw little bang bangs in

949
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: the water at these fucking animals. First of all, you

950
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: will harm them and also like the other creatures around them,

951
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: like it's very fucking detrimental to that ecosystem. And at first,

952
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: like I think, like everybody were like, yo, the fucking

953
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: orcas get it, like they're fucking they have god leveled intelligence,

954
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: like they understand that these boats are a fucking stain

955
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: on our society. But it turns out many researchers have

956
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: just thrown cold water on that. They're like it to us,

957
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: it sort of looks like, you know, the Orcas have

958
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: just found a new way to play with the boats.

959
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: Like it seems more like play more than them actually

960
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: being like, yo oh, how wouts your fucking income type shit.

961
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: It's more about them having, you know, a good time.

962
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: So I think it's just like interesting that the like

963
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people as they argue about this, the

964
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: one thing that people have all said that they're just

965
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: starting to do, rather than throw fucking bombs at them,

966
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: is to be like, how about we just stay the

967
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: fuck away from them, like where we know they're at.

968
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: How about that that's actually full proof? And now slowly

969
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: it sounds like that is catching on, which is nice

970
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: to see, rather than people be like, no, you need

971
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: this fucking hardpoom bro, Like I like that where we've

972
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: come back to now matter respect, respect the fucking seed,

973
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: Like that's it is.

974
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: What it is.

975
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: You don't want smoke, then don't go near them and

976
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: then sorry, take a detour.

977
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 3: I mean this is the animals are animal ing, that's

978
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: what they do. Like people will just stroll up on

979
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: their territories and get all mad when they can't do

980
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: their whatever fishing trip or whatever. It's like it's like orcas,

981
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 3: it's bears. Like the amount of people who just stroll

982
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: up on a bear being cute and it's like the

983
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: bear is gonna bear real good. Yeah, you know, I

984
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: just I just hate seeing these stories of people who

985
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: are just out there and getting mad like oh, they're

986
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 3: they're ruining our things, and it's like you're literally ruining

987
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: their habitat.

988
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's yeah.

989
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 4: It's awful.

990
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Definitely like colonize our mindset, you know what I mean,

991
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: where it's like, what you mean, I'm on this fucking boat,

992
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: the fucking the laws of nature should conform to my

993
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: fucking needs and wants and a fucking killer whale. Not today,

994
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: I will throw a bomb at you when which again,

995
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm just so glad that it's like they have these

996
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: places they call them like Orca alleys where they're like, yo,

997
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: they tend to kick it like in these spots, and

998
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: so now they're just like just fucking avoid it, you

999
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. How about we just fucking respect

1000
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: nature and I start trying to conquer it. But hey,

1001
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: shout out to the orcas, you know, do your thing,

1002
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: keep playing if that's what you want to say. Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: we love to play.

1004
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: We love to play that targeted play.

1005
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think it's beautiful though, Like honestly,

1006
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: like the orct have really become the symbol for the underdog,

1007
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: you know, Like it's really like the people who are like, yeah,

1008
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: go ahead and get them, you know, right, Yeah, it's

1009
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 3: just it's a lot of incredibly rich people who don't

1010
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: give a fuck about the environment.

1011
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: So true, now, it's exactly that's why it's good. Like apparently,

1012
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: like in these Facebook groups there are people who are like,

1013
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: y'all are fucking really missing the point here, Like it's

1014
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: not about like they're not attacking you, like especially if

1015
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: they're just they're they're playing or whatever, they're not really

1016
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: going after you. But to understand that, just make way

1017
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: for nature, you know what I mean, because we know

1018
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: we don't know shit about the ocean as it.

1019
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: Is, Like people on a state of the art, million

1020
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: dollar thing are claiming victimhood like they're being attacked.

1021
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: Well, look, my boat was only six hundred thousand dollars.

1022
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, Okay, you're at the low end of

1023
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: the spectrum there.

1024
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, they call me the broke boy in the

1025
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: young community. But that's okay, that's okay, that's okay. I'll

1026
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: own my truth. Also, I did not know that orchids

1027
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: are technically dolphins. Wait oh, they're mammals right, yeah, largest

1028
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: member of whales and mammals too.

1029
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is there a whale family? I don't know.

1030
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: There's gotta be like now I'm playing myself to like, yeah,

1031
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: they're all fucking dolphins. Uh no, no, because it's whales. See,

1032
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: this is why I have to look, this is I'm

1033
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: trying to be transparent with donnies. I don't know. Look,

1034
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1035
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't know about whales either.

1036
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: They didn't know that the ship was a dolphin, so

1037
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: shout out dolphins too.

1038
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: I did not know there. But it makes sense though,

1039
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: because dolphins are actually pretty aggressive. They're very smart, very

1040
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 3: I actually swam with dolphins once, and now that I

1041
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: know about dolphins, I will never do that ship again.

1042
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: Wild ass dolphins in New Zealand right now.

1043
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh wild, Yeah, I've heard too many videos where like

1044
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: dolphins are kind of like they're violating.

1045
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: They do violate. There are yes, we don't got to

1046
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: get into it, but yeah they violate.

1047
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like enough that I'm like, Joe, what the like

1048
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: of that dolphin?

1049
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? Cancel the dolphins.

1050
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, canceled dolphins. I mean not all but hey, we

1051
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 5: got to be know dophins. No, no, no, no, no,

1052
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 5: all right, let's take a quick break and.

1053
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: We'll be coming right back to talk about some new

1054
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: bullshit available on lou Ray and we're back. So just

1055
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: full disclosure off top. I'm a I'm a I'm a

1056
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm a geriatric millennial. You knew that, which means I

1057
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: came of age. You know, with the media of the nineties,

1058
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: eight two thousands, it was all me true lies. I

1059
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: fucked with that movie Heavy, Okay. I thought that ship

1060
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: was action packed. I thought I was like, Yo, they

1061
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: got fucking Dana on the fucking Harrier jet and ship

1062
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: Crimson g hot. I was like, Yo, what the fuck

1063
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: this ship is? Child. Then I had some life experience,

1064
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: I learned some things, I met some people, I talked

1065
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: to people, I got some perspective and looking back kind

1066
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: of biggest piece of his long over trash that one

1067
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: of the biggest ones that came out in the nineties

1068
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: that does not get talked about enough. So I'm not

1069
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm not gonna sit here and act like

1070
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't fucking with True Lives before, and not that

1071
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: I was fucking with it, because I was, like the

1072
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: message in it. I was just a you know, a

1073
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: preteen teenager who liked watching ship blow up and watching

1074
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: somebody drop a Uzi down the staircase and then mark

1075
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: like twenty people with it if you remember that scene

1076
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: with Jamie the Curtis. So apparently it's coming back out

1077
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: on Blu Ray along with like a bunch of other

1078
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: James Cameron films, and you know, like it was a

1079
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: huge movie and like there was like even a TV

1080
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: show that got canceled that was based on it. It

1081
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: was not really it wasn't available to stream like at

1082
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: all until the end of last year. Like you had

1083
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: to like actually own that shit or buy that, you know,

1084
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: buy a digital copy or whatever you like. You couldn't

1085
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: just stream it. Now. It's just interesting because as this

1086
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: movie's coming back right the conversation sounds like me from

1087
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: the year nineteen ninety eight or something like that, going like,

1088
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, True.

1089
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: Lies is coming back. Yes, True Lies.

1090
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: We love it, we love it, we love it. Like

1091
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: it's just like just such like one of the best

1092
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: action movies, rather than being like this was actually one

1093
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: of the most backwards racist movies of the nineties that

1094
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: we aren't really grappling with because in general, we don't

1095
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: really examine Islamophobia in this country because we've been fed

1096
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: as steady diet of like, oh, yeah, them people, Yeah,

1097
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: they're just the bad guys. Those are called those are

1098
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: just bad guys. And some recent articles like talking about

1099
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: the film's return, note that True Lies is now quote

1100
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: a bit dated now in terms of quote cultural depictions,

1101
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: which is that's the understatement of the century. First of all,

1102
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: I did not know this, so like the I mean,

1103
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: I did know that the film is sexist, but I

1104
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: didn't know that like at the time the outrage I

1105
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: was happening because I was like fucking ten years old.

1106
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: But like the James Cameron like dismissed a lot of

1107
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: these sort of accusations of sexism or like like what

1108
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: the fuck, Like what is this guy doing like this guy,

1109
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Harry, he arrests his wife like disappears her

1110
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: and then puts her in a fucking interrogation room and

1111
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: then gets her to fucking like confess to some weird shit. Apparently,

1112
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: he said. In defense of that scene, James Camera said, quote,

1113
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of guys say I need one

1114
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: of those rooms at my house. Bruh, that's not the

1115
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: fucking defense. You're okay, all right, well you've proved your critics.

1116
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: Well no, no, could you imagine he's like, yeah, he's

1117
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: just said that shit right now in the But like,

1118
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: even like women's rights groups they were even just straight

1119
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: up said they wouldn't protest the movie specifically because quote,

1120
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: compared to the Arabs in this film, women come off

1121
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: relatively well in this one. That they were even like,

1122
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if really we have the most complaints

1123
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: here because they are doing these characters absolutely just disrespectfully filthy,

1124
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: and it's really I think it's just wild to call

1125
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: the movie like sort of dated, because even when the

1126
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: film came out, there were people protesting and boycotting the

1127
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: film because of how racist it was. They're in like

1128
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: fifty four Arab and Muslim countries just fucking banned it.

1129
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: They're like right now, fucking catch this shit here at all,

1130
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: which is so wild. And I'm like, when you look

1131
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: at all of the night, you're like, oh yeah, h

1132
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: m hm, oh yeah, it's all adding up because if

1133
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: the films is specifically right about Harry Trasker I believe

1134
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: is his name or whatever his his his full name is,

1135
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: and he's battling a Palestinian specifically Palestinian terrorist group called

1136
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: the Crimson Gihad. Okay, I don't know what that. I

1137
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: don't know where he fucking got that. Uh, maybe because

1138
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: Cameron just thought jihad means like violent gang or something,

1139
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you call him Crimson Gihad or

1140
00:52:59,600 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: something like that.

1141
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1142
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: And and these and like the Palesitinians in this film

1143
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: are portrayed as just like bloodthirsty, willing to torture like

1144
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: anyone they come across, because they are hell bent on

1145
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: destroying the United States and Israel. And by the way,

1146
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: like when you watch it, they are like absolute clowns too,

1147
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: like the most incapable people ever, Like they don't they

1148
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: don't have their camera batteries charged when they're trying to

1149
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: show off.

1150
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: Their basically stormtroopers.

1151
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: It's yeah, right exactly, which makes it easy, like when

1152
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: they're reduced to sort of like these comedic depictions that

1153
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Harry can just be like aim, gun at and blast

1154
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, yeah, cool, cool dude, Like I

1155
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's a person really. And Jack Shaheen,

1156
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: who is the author of the book Real Bad Arabs

1157
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: called True Lies quote perhaps the most anti Palestinian film

1158
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: Hollywood has ever made. It says there is no form

1159
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: of communication more powerful than film in creating propaganda, and

1160
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: Golan and Globist took it to another level. A certainly

1161
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: American producers play a role in vilifying Palestinians. Perhaps the

1162
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: most anti Palaestinian film is True Lies.

1163
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: Is the full quote there, I didn't even like as

1164
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: a kid, same thing, Miles, Like, I grew up watching

1165
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: this and you know again ten so just wasn't critical

1166
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: of what was happening. But I never attached the Crimson

1167
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: Jihad or any of those folks to an actual nation,

1168
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: like and so I'm kind of getting my mind blown

1169
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: right now, like thinking about like it was it was

1170
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: they were supposed to be Palestinian in the film.

1171
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't even know that.

1172
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's really it's it's fucking bad. It's bad.

1173
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: It's bad. And like, even like Fox who put out

1174
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: the movie, they defended it by saying that, like the

1175
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: villains in the movie quote, we don't label them as

1176
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: Arabs or Muslims. That was that was actually a statement

1177
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: from Fox.

1178
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: Really we just cast them that way, like, yeah, what

1179
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: the fuck the.

1180
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: Actors are all yeah, like I think that we had

1181
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: some Arab performers in there. They are wearing the kafias.

1182
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: But it's like, sir, is it because you literally didn't

1183
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: say the words, That's how you're trying to make it

1184
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Like it's such a such a cheap, fucking defense. And

1185
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: so they tried to fucking calm the waters a bit

1186
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: by adding a disclaimer in the film that said, quote,

1187
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: this film is a work of fiction and does not

1188
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: represent the actions or beliefs of a particular culture or religion.

1189
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: The wild part is that shit came at the very

1190
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: end of the film, and that statement came right after

1191
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: this one that said no animals were harmed in the

1192
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: making of this film.

1193
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1194
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: They were more concerned about the horse in that probably

1195
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: the representation.

1196
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, that is wild to say. Literally,

1197
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: we're going to actually ensure that for people who are

1198
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: concerned about the animals that will take that will actually

1199
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: take priority, just in the sequence of disclaimers before we're like, yo,

1200
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: sorry if this was like straight up islamophobic propaganda. But

1201
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: the horses though, just just a reminder of the horse

1202
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: was cared for. Yeah, absolutely, And the dog, even the

1203
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: little dog that he would walk when he would just

1204
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: pull it along on the leash.

1205
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: Oh right, Oh my god, you're like you're sending me

1206
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: back like I'm trying to try to put Tom in real.

1207
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 4: Tom Arnold was in it. Tom Arnold was in it too.

1208
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: He played his like little sidekick.

1209
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had a couple of really good lines though,

1210
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 3: Like there's this one silly line about how he broke

1211
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: up with his wife and he's like, what kind of

1212
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: sick bitch takes the ice trays out.

1213
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: Of the free Yeah, she took the ice cube trays.

1214
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: I remember that was like one of my favorite curse

1215
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: words like sequences in a movie. I was like, what

1216
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of see bitch takes the ice?

1217
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 4: Miles is ASMR debut yes, bitch.

1218
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: She was from Tom Marnold fam I.

1219
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: Remember, remember like there's the angsty teen and she like

1220
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: and he like he hides a little camera in the

1221
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: and then and then she steals twenty bucks from him. Yeah,

1222
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 3: and she gets on the on the bike with her

1223
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: boyfriend and then she ends up being in that final

1224
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: scene with Dana.

1225
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: Dana, you do a great job. Honestly, give me the guy,

1226
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: damn page the goddag and.

1227
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: He's like really rock hard data. Yeah it's a little soft.

1228
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: Okay, So there is there are some Okay, there are

1229
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: some great lines and they're Okay, this is not.

1230
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: A defensive film. We're just being.

1231
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: I'm just getting really missed out. Like my head is

1232
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: just full of these stupid like sound bites from that

1233
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: fucking you know movie, or.

1234
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: Like when Simon he's like, you're gonna shoot me. I

1235
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: got a tiny dick. It's pathetic. There's like there's that

1236
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: whole ship. There's a lot of again ship that made

1237
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: you laugh. That was that was just sandwiched around everything too,

1238
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: because also Simon's character was fucking grimy as fuck. Remember

1239
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: he was doing what the guy who sounded the dude

1240
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: who's the main character in Sound of Freedom was being

1241
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: accused of was saying, you got to pretend to be

1242
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: my wife on this mission and then coerce them into

1243
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: like sexual ship. Like that's exactly what Simon did anyway,

1244
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: when Bill Paxton, Yeah, yeah, I got a little ditch.

1245
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you are like taking it back right now,

1246
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: like I am just.

1247
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: So then when I I put it away forever memories,

1248
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, these memories when I when I knew not

1249
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: of American hegemony, I mean I knew it was.

1250
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: Bad, and I knew it was stupid, like and especially

1251
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: when they make them all very goofy like the whole

1252
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: like just like when they're trying to have their big

1253
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: moment and then the battery dies in the camera.

1254
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: Like it to me, I was like, yeah, but again

1255
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 4: a kid, but this is so silly.

1256
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: I just looked at the poster for True Lies and

1257
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: it said when he said I do, he never said

1258
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: what he did kind of like it's all centered around

1259
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: his relationship because he's supposed to be like what a

1260
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: paper salesman?

1261
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?

1262
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh my god, yeah, I mean it's just wild too,

1263
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: because like when when they were asked to James Cameron

1264
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: he like did not want to take any kind of responsibility,

1265
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: and he said, quote, I just needed some convenient villains.

1266
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: I could have picked Irish terrorists.

1267
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: Oh shut up, James, but marginalized brown people. That's that

1268
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: was your decision. Yeah, he loves it.

1269
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, did Avatar, which is basically yeah,

1270
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: I was just gonna John Smith in the space.

1271
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean he just but he got

1272
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: a blue face though too. That's how dedicated he was

1273
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: to the movement. I think it's also just like whack. Obviously,

1274
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: like we're in such an era to where the like

1275
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: labels of terrorism are thrown around like just basically deployed

1276
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: to discredit people that are in most cases oppressed and

1277
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: have no other recourse except for uprisings. And like you

1278
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: see that throughout history, like the kinds of groups that

1279
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: like now be like they called this group, they used

1280
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: to be called terrorists, and now we're like, oh, yeah,

1281
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: the people that were for black liberation or other kinds

1282
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: of liberation or you know, calling like you know when

1283
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: enslaved people were like okay, so this is not happening anymore,

1284
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: like the terrorism that these people endured in Haiti. You're

1285
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: like well okay, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's very cyclical. Yeah, we don't we don't

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Speaker 2: know the difference like what is terrorism, what is what

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Speaker 2: is fascism and what isn't That's been the hot topic

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Speaker 2: reason like Trump can say the most fascist it in

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Speaker 2: the world and then call all this enemies fascists, like

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Speaker 2: there is really an effort to communists. Yeah, yeah, right

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Speaker 2: is China everyone it seems to be not literally like

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Speaker 2: understanding the definition of words is. It's very important, and

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Speaker 2: I think we're using so so so much ability to

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Speaker 2: see through the bullshit. It's very concerning what and.

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Speaker 1: I think just Americans in general, like people don't am

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Speaker 1: not I'd say not all Americans, but the concept of

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Speaker 1: like oppression and hegemony are kind of like foreign because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are like living on this fucking

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Speaker 1: spaceship that is like the hegemonic power, right, Like we're

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Speaker 1: you talking about what that means. They're like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: that looks bad, like without understanding, like do you this is?

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Speaker 1: This is such a larger picture here and it's not

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Speaker 1: just crimson gy hod and they their back their camera

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01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: ran out of batteries, like but hey, when we want

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Speaker 1: to reduce it to those kinds of things that flatten

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Speaker 1: it into easy to understand things. It gets away from

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Speaker 1: us and then we get this kind of shit.

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Speaker 3: And that's why it's so important to have people from

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Speaker 3: their own communities tell their stories, because you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: someone like James Cameron tell the story and put their funky.

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Speaker 4: Ass spin on it.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you know something, you know nav you know, NAVI.

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Speaker 4: Representation in this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's someone on Instagram. They're like, I've been here

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Speaker 1: the whole time talking about navvy rights and y'all really

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Speaker 1: just fuck let me out of the conversation.

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Speaker 4: There's someone who's already learning the Navy language, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like, there's someone who's yeah, they're LARPing with the navvy

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Speaker 3: and it's Yeah, it's one of those things where I

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Speaker 3: just like, we we gotta like just James Cameron, like,

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Speaker 3: let's make way for other creators and other filmmakers who

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Speaker 3: have like really compelling stories to tell and are from

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Speaker 3: those communities.

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Speaker 4: Let's just do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because I'm just I'm so over I'm

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Speaker 3: just so over it. Like the Yellowstone of it all

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: where it's like someone comes in and like writes these

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Speaker 3: lines and they're supposed to be from this community and

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Speaker 3: it sounds insane and I'm just I'm just over it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Tom Arnold was a dumbass in that movie,

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Speaker 3: and it was so funny to watch him just.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I mean we used to just scream. I remember, like

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Speaker 1: there was someone in our high school named Dana and

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Speaker 1: we would just be like.

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Speaker 3: That was That was probably his audition tape for the

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01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: whole film was probably like I don't know, I can't

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Speaker 3: that was a bad one. No, that was actually okay,

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Speaker 3: But what is what is Arnold Swarzenegger without his allergy medicine?

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Speaker 3: What is? I don't know?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, that was my best attempt I call you that

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 1: Actually, it's fantastic. That's why I take twenty four tech.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic for people like me with the allergies aalogies.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Jackie, Yeah, it has been fantastic having

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Speaker 1: you yet again. Where do the people find you? Follow

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01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: you here? You support you? And what is a tweet

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01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: that you've been liking?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you guys can find me at Jackie Comedy

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Speaker 4: J A C K I E C O M.

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Speaker 1: E d y.

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Speaker 4: I'm on all things.

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Speaker 3: That's on Twitter and Instagram and venmore you and uh yeah,

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm a tweet that I love. And this was on

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Speaker 3: November first, as you guys know as Dave American Heritage Month.

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Speaker 3: So it says this is from res Princess here at

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Speaker 3: is chack and bake for this Native American Heritage Month.

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Speaker 3: I'm accept payments for any time anyone has used the

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Speaker 3: word tribe to describe their front group. And I saw

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Speaker 3: that and I was like, fucking thank god because the

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Speaker 3: amount of people who's it my tribe, my people, and

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Speaker 3: it's like, bitch, I got a tribe. I gotta people,

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01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 3: Like can you not talk about you and your little

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Speaker 3: friends as a tribe?

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Speaker 4: I would love that.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, they shout outs to res Princess because that

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Speaker 3: was a hilarious tweet, and I was like, fuck, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the mood this month for.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Oh for sure. Yeah. In so many ways that

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Speaker 1: we can decolonize our own language too, Like I've been

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: here saying stuff about total polls or my spirit animals

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: and shit like that, and I'm like, yeah, there's other

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01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: ways to expressing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like it just it irks me,

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01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: like when it happens in the moments most like at work, like, hey,

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: let's get a powout going, And I'm like, can you

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01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 3: not like just there's other words to describe that, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's simple.

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01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: How about how about another useless ass meeting?

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you?

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01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: And that should have been a fucking email. That should

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 4: have been a fucking email is what that should be.

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: I hate we save you. That's why if you're an ally,

1387
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: it's a good reason to get your tickets to good

1388
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: medicine right now. Yes, make sure get your tickets, make

1389
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: sure you support the community, learn something.

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Speaker 3: Yes, go to PACNYC dot RG get your tickets again.

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Speaker 3: Killer lineup. I'll see you guys there in New York.

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Speaker 1: City, beautiful justin. Thanks so much man for co hosting today.

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: Where do the people find you? Follow you? What to tweet?

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01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 3: You?

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01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: Like all that?

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01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: You can find me at j con the Smith that's

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Speaker 2: j C O N T H E S M I

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Speaker 2: t H. Only on Instagram. I don't have a very

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Speaker 2: active social media presence, but I'm out here, you know,

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01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: doing my thing. Uh piece of media I enjoyed. I

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01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: was trying to come up with something cooler, but really.

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01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 2: As Miles knows, I've been really into this Blue Rye

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: show on Netflix. It's just I love seeing stories once

1404
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: again coming from people who have that lived experience, but

1405
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: trying to give you a relatable story that is just

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: so fascinating that it stays with you for days afterwards.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened with me. I don't know much about

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01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: the Ato period of Japan during that time, but it

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01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: really struck a chord with me as a person of

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01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: mixed raced heritage to see like where you might stand

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: in the history of your culture, like coming down on

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01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: you as like kind of carrying two parts of your

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Speaker 2: identity and you don't know what to do with it,

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Speaker 2: and it's a struggle. But it's also such a beautiful story,

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: Like all of the characters are fully developed, and even

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: though you might predict one or two things that will

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01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: shock you eventually, I want to shout out a specific

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01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: episode because at one point they simultaneously start telling a

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01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: story within a story within a story, and each of

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01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: them moves their own insular narratives at a really fun pace,

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01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: and then the overall story arc coincides with what's being

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01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: told in all of these stories and it's just showing

1423
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: off the creator's ability to master their craft of storytelling.

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01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: And it's kind of an ode to their daughter, the

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: Michael Green and I want to make sure I get

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01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: the name right, Amber Noizumi. They both created the the show,

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: and it's a like an homage to their daughter, who

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01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: they also called the Blue Eyed Samurai growing up, and

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01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: they formed the show a little bit after that nickname

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: came up. But man, it's so beautiful. It's very violent,

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01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: so you know, don't you don't yeh yeah, yeah, beware,

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01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: there's there's a wide yes, yeah. But the choreography like

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: if you loved Avatar the Last Airbender, but you want

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01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: a more grown up, less fantasy involved version of that,

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: but but very moving. Nonetheless, Man, check the show out.

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Speaker 2: I really hope it gets all the accolades.

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Speaker 1: And what if you liked Avatar the James Cameron.

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01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, blue eyed Samurai not blue face caricature.

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: That's what that's what we need right now. And the

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Speaker 2: name of that episode is called the Tale of the

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01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: Ronan and the Bride, and you could watch it on

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: your own. It's episode five. I believe you could watch

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01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: it on your own. Is like a short film. It's

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01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: like forty eight minutes, but the story they build up

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01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: before and after it is so beautiful and worth checking out.

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01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 4: It's also one on Rotten Tomatoes, so you sold me

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01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 4: on that one justin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's oh man, you can finish it in the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Told me, I think you'll you'll learn a lot about

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: a lot of things here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, very cool. So wow, yeah like this shit,

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01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: Like when you told me, I was like, that's I'm

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: I was. I'm considered a half Japanese beast over there

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01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: from back then. This is exactly me And it's dope

1455
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: too because it's voiced by Maya Erskine from Penn fifteen

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01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: is biracial, white and Japanese. So this is down to everything. Yeah, yeah,

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01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: really dope show. Anyway. You can find me at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray wherever they got ad symbols. You can also

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Speaker 1: find Jack and I on our basketball podcast Miles and

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Speaker 1: Jack Got Mad Boosties. If you like, you know Weed

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Speaker 1: and ninety Day Fiance, then come check out for twenty

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Speaker 1: Day Fiance. That's another show I do with Sophia Alexandra.

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Speaker 1: Let's see a tweet I like comes from Ellerie Smith

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01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: at Ellerie Smith tweeted when a restaurant only has their

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: own homemade catchup, I'm like, don't you know hubris is

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Speaker 1: the hero's fatal flaw, which I feel that it's like,

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Speaker 1: what do you really do? Okay, Okay, we'll see you,

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Speaker 1: see We'll see you. So you can find us at

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at the Daily zeit Guys on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: got a Facebook fan page, website guys dot comway post

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Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnoights footnotes thank you justin where

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Speaker 1: we post all the articles and clips and links that

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Speaker 1: we talked about today, as well as a song that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna ride out on. We are going to go

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Speaker 1: out on this track, let me bring it back up.

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Speaker 1: This is called Elsen by the band called La Lom

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Speaker 1: l A l o M. They are an LA band,

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Speaker 1: but they're kind of like, they're sort of trippy. They've

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Speaker 1: they've got like Cumbia influences, but like also like this

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Speaker 1: kind of psychedelic, nostalgic vibe to it. It feels like

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Speaker 1: you listen into stuff like on an old radio or

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Speaker 1: something like that. But this track is called Else by

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Speaker 1: La Loon and it's dope, just some nice easy music

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: to start warming us up for the weekend. Okay, that'll

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01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: do it for us. Obviously, The Daily sit Case is

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: a production by Heart Radio, so for more podcast check

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Speaker 1: out the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts wherever get your podcasts

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Speaker 1: for free. We'll see you later to tell you what's trending. Okay,

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Speaker 1: bye bye bye