1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: That's gonna that's gonna be way too charring to open 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: an episode. Ware, Well, we already did it, so keep moving. Yeah, 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: uh huh. Um, the episode is actually going to start 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: with Garrison saying that's way too jarring to open an 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: episode with, and the listeners won't know that much. That 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: is a much easier opening. Um, alright, so we're doing 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be reading a thing today 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: and then we're going to talk about the thing that 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: we're reading. Um, and and and who are you? And 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: who is here? Oh? Yeah, this is it could happen here, 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: this is it could happen here. I'm I'm Garrison, I 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: am our resident Canadian. Yeah, that's Anderson. That's Anderson the 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: dog in here. We had we had to hire a 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Canadian for a diversity quota. You do not anyway, We 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: have Chris here, Robert Evans as usual. Um, Sophie, So 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk a little bit 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: about about Canada today. So in the in like the 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: scripted what if scenarios first positive in the original it 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: could happen here. Um. It detailed what it might be 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: like to live in the United States during a modern 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: civil conflict. And like one of the stories that we 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: kind of tell ourselves as a culture is about you know, 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: crossing up into the safe haven of Canada whenever stuff 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: breaks out in the States. Um, whether that be like 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: an escape from just the hell that's us politics, um, 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: or you know, going up into the cold northern terrain 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: better equipped to deal with climate change. Canada is kind 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: of just viewed as a bastien of like of liberal 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: democracy in North America. Um. You know, I've I've made 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: jokes in the past about using my Canadian passport to 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: escape up into the forest of Alberta when things get 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: too dicey here in the States. But this like weird 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: utopian view of Canada is not just wrong about Canada's 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: current political state, but also assumes that a Canada is 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: like immune to the political shifts that the States have 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: gone through the past few years. Which is it's it's 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: very obviously not um so like Canada internationally is and 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: specifically in the States, it's it's used as like, you know, Canada, 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: it's it's used it's like America's little brother, but it's 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's much more you know, democratic, it's much 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: more liberal. It's like it's like this kind of ideal 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: scenario for like what the state's could be. And like 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Canadians have a weird view of the States as well. 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Like Canadians, they're both like the like they're kind of obsessed, 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Like a lot of Canadians think no more about US 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: politics and then they know about Canadian politics, um, but 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: almost in like a way that we watch sports. It's 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: it's like it's like this thing that we like watch 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: as entertainment, like like some kind of like sick reality show. 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: That's how I think a lot of Canadians really view 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: US politics, um, because it's just so wacky compared to 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: the kind of more like civil parliamentary system that we 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: have in Canada. US politics just looks very very bizarre, 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: and there's always this notion it's like, no matter how 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: bad things can get in Canada, at least we're not 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: the States, at least at least we're not at least 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: we're not the US. And that is kind of a 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of how a lot of stuff 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: can get really get can just like surviving Canada longer, 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: because it's just they view it like at least, at 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: least we're not as bad as the other people. So 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: that's how you know, it gives them kind of some 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: kind of sense of security. But in terms of like 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: in terms of Canada as a country, you know, we 65 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: we we've said that Canada as a country is basically 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: just you know, a few mining companies in a trench coat, 67 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: and the trench coat is healthcare. Um. And that's that's 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: really all they are is as as as a country. UM. 69 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: But today we're gonna be talking about kind of Canada's 70 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: slide towards farther right wing politics, UM. Both you know, 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: historically and then more recently, because a lot of what 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: we've seen in the States has happened kind of in 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: its own weird Canadian way around the same time. UM. 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: But before we before we really get started, I think 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: could be remiss not to mention how the Canadian government 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: has historically treated Indigenous and First Nations people um. Living 77 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: on that land. Of course, it's like not only just 78 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: hundreds of years ago, but a lot more recently as well. 79 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Just in the past year, there have been thousands and 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: thousands of like hidden graves found across the provinces at 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: the sites of these residential schools, UM and the process 82 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: of looking for these on Mark Graves has like just 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: just started. UM. The Canadian Historical Association published a letter 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: this past Canada Day Canada Day is like Independence Day 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: but for Canada, UM, saying that it was abundantly clear 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: that Canada is guilty of is guilty of genocide. UM. 87 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: I know there's there's a few episodes Behind the Bastards 88 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: UM and I think even worse here that that talk 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: about residential schools UM and and the genocide of Indigenous Canada. 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: So you can you can check those out. And I 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: wrote this episode to be more focused on Canada's political 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: shifts the past five years. But since we're talking to 93 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: be talking about Canadian fascism, I thought it would be 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: irresponsible to not mention this upfront as like a thing 95 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: responsible and very responsible. So I'm gonna try to take 96 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: us through aspects of Canadians of Canada's politics chronologically. UM. 97 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: You guys can button and kind of ask questions and 98 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: clarifications about stuff. UM. But the first thing that we're 99 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: gonna start with is actually going to be on the 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: First Nations the side of things, and that that's kind 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: of how that that's what mostly Indigenous people are called 102 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: in Canada's First Nations. Um. Even you know, the Indigenous 103 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: people up in Canada most amused that term. So that's 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: the term I'll be using for some some of this stuff, 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: just because that's the one that's used up there. Um. 106 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: So the the residential schools program is where I'm gonna 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: briefly mention a few things about it, just because of 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: how it kind of relates to some of the stuff 109 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be talking with for the rest of 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: the episode. UM yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna read someone. 111 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read some words by by Duncan Campbell Scott. 112 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Who was the department who was who was the Deputy 113 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: Superintendent of Indian Affairs. This was like a rank in 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the Canadian government. Um. He served as the Deputy Superintendent 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: from nineteen thirteen to nineteen thirty two. UM. And he's 116 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: arguably like the main architect of the residential schools program. Um. 117 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: He was. He was also good friends with the first 118 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Canada, John John John McDonald. So here's 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: here's here's how this guy the the architect of this program. 120 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: This is this is how he kind of talked talked 121 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: about this in letters to both his like his underlings, 122 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: and just like openly quote it is readily acknowledged that 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Indian children lose their natural resistance to illness by habituating 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: so close in the residential schools, and that they die 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: at a much higher rate than in their villages. But 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: this does not justify a change in the policy of 127 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: this department, which is geared towards a final solution for 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: our Indian problem. It is quite within the market to 129 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: say that fifty percent of children who passed through these 130 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: schools did not live to benefit from the education in 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: which they had received. So that's that's just what he 132 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: calls it. He he says, the final solution to the 133 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: Indian problem. It's very very very clear. What what like, 134 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: that's just the language he uses. And this was like 135 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: before Hitler though, like this was this was paying attention 136 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: to these Yeah, yeah, like this this is just like 137 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 1: this is the mindset of all of these same people. 138 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: This is all of all of the same thing. Um. 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Another another another quote from this dude is I want 140 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: to get rid of the Indian problem. I do not 141 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: think of it as a matter of fact that the 142 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: country ought to continually protect a class of people who 143 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: are able to stand alone. That's my whole point. Our 144 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: objective is to continue until there's not a single Indian 145 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: in Canada that has not been absorbed into the into 146 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: the body politic, and there's no Indian question and no 147 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Indian department. That is the whole objective of this bill. 148 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 1: The bill referring to the residential schools program. So that's 149 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: that's how he talks about these things. Um. There there's 150 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: other letters that he's sent that's like telling his um, 151 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: his like agents because he had like agents stationed at 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: at Canadian at Canadian reserves to like not let Indians 153 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: do dancing because both that's you know, that's doing their 154 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: cultural practice, but also it'll astract them from learning how 155 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: to do Western farming. Um, Like they weren't allowed to 156 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: go to fairs or exhibitions or anything that you like 157 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: that anything that has like that is reminiscent of like 158 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: any kind of cultural tradition that is not white in European. Um. 159 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: So he he is, he is a pretty pretty pretty 160 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: bad dude. He probably deserves his own his own thing 161 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: that this this specific guy. But you can can you 162 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: can kind of see like these like fascist ideas and 163 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: rhetoric are not foreign to Canada. Um. And you know, 164 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: it's been there since its infancy. And now Canadian politics 165 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: is very different in a lot of ways compared to 166 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: American politics. Uh. Canada tries to kind of follow the 167 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: European model, whereas America is very much like the rebel 168 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: state that tries to play on its play by its 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: own rules. Um. Kind of the first main difference is 170 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: that Canada isn't a two party system. Um. It's it's 171 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: more like a two party plus system, because yeah, there 172 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: still is the main Liberals in the main Conservatives, but 173 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: there are there are other parties that actually can get elected. Um. 174 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: And it's it's not it's not like a strictly two 175 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: party system the same way the States is. So that 176 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: makes things more interesting. Um. And another thing that's really 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: interesting about like a cultural politics that's that's different from 178 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: the States. You know. Besides, you know, Canada obviously has 179 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: like a parliament and a prime minister. That's different, but 180 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: that Canada view and Canadians view nationalism and patriotism very differently, uh, 181 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: compared to to like United States. Um. Citizens patriotism and 182 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: in some ways nationalism have always been kind of more 183 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: of a liberal progressive thing, um, you know, in the 184 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: opposition to the States, where it is not really seen 185 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: as a liberal progressive thing. Um. It's like, even under 186 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: conservative leadership, Canada kind of prides itself as as sort 187 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: of like liberal utopia. And that's where a lot of 188 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: the patriotism and celebration of Canada comes from among its 189 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, mostly liberal and more socially progressive citizens. They 190 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: like celebrate Canada as like this great progressive nation, and 191 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: that's where a lot of the patriotism comes from, is like, 192 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: oh look, look how progressive we are. Um. Then the 193 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: nationalists in part can be a bit more tricky, uh, 194 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: because you first need to understand like the English and 195 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: French divide which within the country, which I barely understand 196 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: that to be honest, I was I was, I was. 197 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: I was born in the Prairies. That was you know, 198 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: much more of like the Protestant English English settlement. You know, 199 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm not from Quebec, but we'll be talking about Quebec 200 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: a lot here because it is very important to how 201 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: nationalism works in Canada. So the divide between the French 202 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: and the English make elections really interesting because the English 203 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: majority politicians usually need to court some of the French 204 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Canadian population and and people in Quebec in order to 205 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: get enough parliamentary seats to have a majority government, because 206 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Canada works on having a majority within the parliament. Um, 207 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: you can have a minority in in in the parliament 208 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: like the Liberals currently have. So even if you know, 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: someone doesn't win a plurality of votes, that can still 210 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: be in control of the government in any in a 211 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: minority or usually a majority capacity. We'll get into this 212 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: kind of stuff later. Um. But even though they need 213 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: to get see from Quebec to have you know, a 214 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: decent control of parliament, Quebec kind of likes to act 215 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: like its own special country. Um. They even have their 216 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: own like federal political party, uh the block Kebuqua and 217 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: so like that. That that's a that's a federal party 218 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: that operates in forwarding the interests of Quebec. Sometimes it 219 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: functions as like a separatist party, but not really anymore. 220 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Um So, although the Blockbuqua is a lot is a 221 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: lot more secular and progressive than basically any any other 222 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: major party outside of the n d P UM but 223 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: despite them being much more like socially progressive, that are 224 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: also like one of the biggest nationalist parties UM in Canada. 225 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: And you know, the far right parties in Canada have 226 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: had always had their you know brand of ethno nationalism, 227 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: but that was that's that's been much less pronounced than 228 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: the kind of like keep non French Canadians out of 229 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: Quebec and keep Americans out of Canada type of nationalism 230 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: that's common with like liberals UM and specifically you know, 231 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: progressives inside Quebec, which you can't blame them for wanting 232 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: to keep Americans no, yeah, like you can good sense, 233 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: if I could keep Americans out of America, I would 234 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. But so that kind of sentiment, you 235 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: can see how that connect, like you know, be used 236 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: to foster some not good things though that that that 237 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: that specific type of thinking of of like keeping nationals, 238 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: like you know, keeping four nationals out of your state. Yeah, 239 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: it's good to not have Americans there, but you know 240 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: that's going to get extended towards other people's unfortunate yeah, 241 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: and and like so even though you know, the nationalism 242 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: can be a lot more progressive, that's not to say 243 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: as no nationalism does not come up within these sets 244 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: UM which is going to bring us to UH when 245 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: when a briefly talk about something from the thirties called 246 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: the called the National Unity Party of the National Unity 247 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Party of Canada. Um, the National Unique Party, National Unity Party. 248 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: That is a weird thing to say. Um was was 249 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: originally called the Canadian National Socialist Unity Party. Oh wait, 250 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: now that remind national socialism That seems like a term 251 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: with a little bit of baggage. Yeah, remember correctly, yep, 252 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: it sort of does. Um so that this was a 253 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: party formed in nineteen thirty four by a little Nazi 254 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: shirt head named Adrian Urkhan. Um. Now that is if 255 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: you cannot tell that it's me trying to say a 256 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: French name. So he is from Quebec. This is a 257 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of Canadian Nazi stuff originates inside Quebec because it 258 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: already has such nationalist tendencies. Um So, our cons introduction 259 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: into nationalism started around the turn of the century amid 260 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: fears in Quebec that Chinese immigration would threaten the white 261 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: French Canadian working class. Um. This is still a big 262 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: thing in Canada. Uh. Racism and nationalism against the Chinese 263 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: is still a big thing. We will talk about this 264 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: at the very end of this of this, of of 265 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: these episodes, because it's still a thing the Conservative Party 266 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: talks about a lot um. So, yeah, his his internnationalism 267 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: was because of fears of Chinese immigration in the early 268 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds. Um, the the anti his so his anti 269 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: immigrants upbringing, plus the fact that he attended the Catholic 270 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: school um that there there there was no there was 271 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: no public schools in Quebec until the nineteen sixties. All 272 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: of the schools were either Catholic or Protestant. Now, this 273 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: is also part of the cultural divide inside Canada where 274 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: usually the English speakers are Protestant and they're usually further 275 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: west and the and the Catholics are usually you know, 276 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: French Canadians. There's a lot of that inside Quebec. Um, 277 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: so he went to a Catholic school, of which were 278 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: at the time very anti Jewish because what was happening 279 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: is the Jewish people in Quebec wanted to make their 280 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: own Jewish schools and the Catholics, like in charge, didn't 281 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: want that because then that'd be less people were inside 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Catholic schools and they weren't you know, learning Catholicism. So 283 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot, a lot of stuff going on here 284 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: that is kind of extreme contributing. So he was you know, 285 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: already anti immigrant because of the Chinese and then he 286 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: got got exposed to anti Semitism inside its Catholic schools 287 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: UM and that you know, pushed him onto this specific path. 288 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: So in nineteen thirty R. Khan made a deal with 289 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: the head of the Conservative Party RB Bennett that in 290 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: exchange for fifteen thousand dollars, which is like two hundred 291 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars in today's money, Our our con 292 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: would craft a smear campaign UM trying to assist the 293 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Conservatives in basically smearing the Liberals to gain more Conservative 294 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: support inside the province of Quebec, which at the time 295 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: was majority liberal leaning. So Our Khan got to work 296 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: and started prepping you like pseudo fascist propaganda for the 297 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: Conservatives UM. And by the nineteen thirty federal election it 298 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: absolutely worked UM Bennett and the Conservatives one they gained 299 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: twenty four parliamentary seats in Quebec, which is a massive success. 300 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Like before they did not win any seats in Quebec, 301 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: so gaining twenty four seats in for over the course 302 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: of just one election, massive win. UM so after getting 303 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: the after getting the Conservatives elected, the Conservative Party dropped 304 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: our Khan because he was you know, a little hashtag 305 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: problem matic um uh huh. So after he got dropped 306 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: by the Conservatives short shortly later, our Khan made contact 307 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: with the growing Nationalist Socialist Party in Germany. Um. And 308 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: over the next few years he just he started to 309 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: gain more fascist contacts around the world. He would exchange 310 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: letters people from people like people, people from the German 311 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Nazis would come over and meet with what and come 312 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: over to Canada and see what he was doing. He 313 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: would travel around meeting other other Nazis around the world. Um. 314 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: So it's kind of just like just gaining a lot, 315 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot more contacts. So then in nineteen thirty four 316 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: he formed his own fascist party, which is the Canadian 317 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: National Socialist Unity Party. And within that year, so in 318 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: in the you know, midnighteen thirties, it merged with other 319 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: Canadian nationalist parties that were more based in the west, 320 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: so you know, in the prairies like Alberta, Saskatchewan and BC. 321 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: So he emerged a few other kind of nationalist groups 322 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: and started gaining traction, getting thousands and thousands of members. 323 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: This actually became an actual thing. You can find footage 324 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: of of his rallies and they're just terrifying, just like 325 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, just it's the same thing whenever you see 326 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: like the Nazis, you know, rallying in Britain. You know, 327 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: it's it feels different than watching a Nazi rally in 328 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: Germany because you can feel a lot more, you know, 329 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: if it's it's it's the same feeling. But come but 330 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: come home your own countrymen kind of do the same 331 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: thing that you associate with the old footage of dead 332 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: people is exactly. Yeah. So he was getting thousand numbers 333 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: across Canada, um you know, mostly in the provinces of 334 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: of Quebec and Alberta. So the two main provinces we're 335 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: to talk about are going to be Quebeca and and 336 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Alberta because that's where a lot of a lot of 337 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: the far right stuff gets started out. Um So in 338 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: ninety eight, so that's like four years after he started this, Uh, 339 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: the Canadian National Socialist Unity Party merged again, this time 340 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: with various nationalist group groups and so called swastika clubs 341 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: um in that we're already inside like Ontario and Quebec. 342 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: So on the eastern side of Canada. So now he 343 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: he united both the Quebec stuff Eastern Canada and Western Canada. 344 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: And then he called that the nack Sational Unity Party. 345 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: Um and Our Khan appointed himself the Canadian fural Gosh. 346 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Yes so, and I'm going to quote from a Time 347 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: Time magazine piece from July of ninety eight, Our Cohn 348 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: scheduled Canada's first national fascist convention for Kingston, Ontario. The 349 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: mayor and city council did not want a fascist convention 350 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: held in their city and called the police to prevent it. Defiantly, 351 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Leader Arkhan slipped forty five of his leaders into a 352 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: room near police headquarters. It's this old tibe language held 353 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: forth unmolested for five and a half hours. Upon emerging, 354 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: Leader Arkhan wired thanks to the mayor for his courtesy 355 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: extended and announced the formation of the new National Unity Party. 356 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: A flaming torch will be the new party's emblem Canada 357 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: for Canadians, it's slogan and the upraised arm of its 358 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: salute for king Country and Christianity. Moving on to Ontario, 359 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Leader Arkhan supported by eighty five of his blue shirts. 360 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: He claims there were eighty thousand members at the time 361 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: held a meeting in Mancy Hall that that was attended 362 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: by about eight hundred sympathizers. More impressive, however, there were 363 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: three anti fascist counter demonstrations held simultaneously. Two outdoor anti 364 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: fascist meetings drew four hundred persons until broken up by 365 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: police fearing a clash, but at maple Leaf Gardens the 366 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: Canadian League of Peace and Democracy attracted ten thousand so 367 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: as was the first big fascist rally in Canada. There 368 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: was like, you know, ten thousands of these more liberal 369 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: people rallying elsewhere and four hundred like anti fascists ready 370 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: to you know, beat up these Nazis. Um what then 371 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: the police beat them up. Because history doesn't change times 372 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: of flat circle, we're still doing the same thing. Now. 373 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: Do you know who won't rally eight hundred Canadian Nazis 374 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: called the Blue Shirts to sell you products us promise that, yeah, 375 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: depending depending what Hello Fresh has recently been sending there. 376 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Why do you always pick Hello Fresh? There are so 377 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: many worse brands that we can't ignore the fact that 378 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: they've been increasingly building their militant capacity for the last 379 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: seven years. Anyway, here's some ads we have too much 380 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: to read and we are back talking about the Canadian 381 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Blue shirts. UM, hello fresh, hello shut please continue Blue 382 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: aprons arons. Thanks Chris, Thanks Chris for saving the bit. 383 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: All right, thank you. Um. So next year after his 384 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: first rally, nine, World War two obviously started to ramp 385 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: up and the Canadian government arrested our Cohn for plotting 386 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: to overthrow the state UM and his National Unity Party 387 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: was banned from federal elections. Our Khan was released from 388 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: prison after the war, but he continued his political aspirations. UM. 389 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: He ran for a federal election twice in Quebec, once 390 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty nine and once in nineteen fifty three. 391 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: Both times he uh he ran under his National Unity 392 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: Party banner, despite it being banned from elections. I don't 393 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: know how he did that, um, both times. Laws are fake. Yeah. 394 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Both times he placed second with over five and a 395 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: half five and a half thousand votes, which was about 396 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: like thirty percent of of of the vote. Um. Actually, 397 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: but the second time he ran as he ran just 398 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: under a nationalist banner UM, and he got second as well, 399 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: but he got like the vote, so he did a 400 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: slight slightly better just running as a nationalist in Quebec. 401 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: Not like the National Unity thing, because that was you know, 402 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: more overtly Nazi. But he kept holding National Unity Party 403 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: public rallies until the mid sixties. His last rally, I 404 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: think attracted like one thousand supporters, too many. I was 405 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: hoping you were going to say, like three, and there 406 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: was probably sad footage, but that's sad in a different way. Yeah. 407 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: So he finally died in nineteen sixty seven, and with 408 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: him also died the National Unity Party. I So I 409 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: bring this one up because it's one funked up and 410 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: interesting um and too. It's like it's indicative of the 411 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: weirdness that can come out of Quebec's nationalist political bent. Uh. 412 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: We can see that now with a modern fact, you know, 413 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: neo fascist Canadian political party that's based out of Quebec, 414 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: which we will talk about shortly, um. But even like 415 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: the nationalist tendencies within Quebec's more mainstream progressive population, Like 416 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to read some of the policy positions of 417 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: the block Keebuqua party. That's that's that that's the that's 418 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: like the Quebec sovereignty you know, party that is still 419 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: actually very very popular in in elections, specifically in Quebec. 420 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: And just ahead of this, if you're a French speaker 421 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: and you're frustrated by Garrison's pronunciations or my pronunciations of Quebecua, 422 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: that your language isn't real and it's fine, and you're 423 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: from the French. Yeah, and you're responsible for this Nazi 424 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: so unlike unlike English speakers who have been responsible for Spanish. 425 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: That's my take, okay, anyway, saying Spanish here here here 426 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: is the progressive liberal block kibu qua policy positions UM 427 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: Quebec sovereignty you know, up into independence. But usually it's 428 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: just you know, them pushing the interests of Quebec. Um. Environmentalism, 429 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: abortion rights, you know, pro abortion rights UM, l G 430 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: l G l g B, t Q rights UM, the 431 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: legalization of of assisted suicide, UM, opposition to Canadian participation 432 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: in the Iraq war. UM abolition, abolition of the abolition 433 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: of the monarchy. All right, Uh? Forcing forcing immigrants to 434 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: speak French in Quebec lost, blocking immigration to Quebec. You've 435 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: also lost me. The Quebec Secularism law, which bans public 436 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: workers in positions of authority from wearing just symbols primarily 437 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: targeted at Muslims and seeks exemption Quebec's exemption from the 438 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: requirements of the Multiculturalism Act. Yeah. I mean, I don't 439 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: know the Multicultural Act, but it's great. It's it's it's good. 440 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, so you can kind of see how like 441 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: they have you know, all these like, you know, pretty good, 442 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: pretty good progressive sings, and then and then they get 443 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: really anti immigrant, right, so this is like, this is 444 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: kind of hard to explain to Americans, how like you 445 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: can be very like pro gay, pro you know, abolition 446 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: of the monarchy, but then also be like, no, but 447 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: we don't want those brown people in Quebec. Yeah. So yeah, anyway, 448 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna move on from Quebec specifically, but don't worry, 449 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: we will be back because you're still a problem. But 450 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: there there are there are other things too, are other 451 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: things to discuss. So after our cons fascist Canadian movement, 452 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: there was a stint of like Canadian skinheads in the seventies, 453 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, around the same time as the UK and 454 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: the US UM In the seventies, there was an unsuccessful 455 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Nazi party called the Nationalist Party of Canada that spawned 456 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: a skinhead gang called Heritage Front Um Heritage Front disbanded 457 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: around the mid two thousands because the Canadian Feds infiltrated 458 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: it and kind of you know, cut that down, so 459 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: critical support to the Canadian fans. But now we're gonna 460 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: move on to unite the right. Uh not not not 461 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: the United Right that you're thinking of, the Canadian Unite 462 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: the Right movement from the ninety nineties and early two thousands. 463 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: But that one probably wasn't problematic right there. It has 464 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: no lasting problems. So because of Canada, because of Canada's 465 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: multi multiparty system, there's more opportunity for ideologically similar parties 466 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: to split the vote, you know, of people leaning in 467 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: a certain direction. Um. Throughout most of the later half 468 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, they were multiple conservative right wing 469 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: parties that were operating at the same time, which did 470 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: split the right of center vote. This is in part 471 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: what allowed Canada to rise as like a liberal haven, 472 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: because for a while the Conservatives just couldn't get elected 473 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: because they were in the vote too many ways, leaving 474 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: the main Liberal party to win the vast majority of elections. UM. Obviously, 475 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: this frustrated right wing politicians and vote and voters than 476 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties, there were there were there were 477 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: two main right wing parties. There was the older Progressive 478 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: Conservative Party. They're like a classically fiscal conservative party with 479 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: slightly less socially conservative beliefs, so you know, I would 480 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: rather take them compared to the alternatives here. Um. The 481 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: other major party was a right of center party called 482 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: the Reform Party, which was much more of like a 483 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: right wing populist and extremely socially conservative party, more similar 484 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: to like the Trump era Republican Party. You know, they're 485 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: they're they're they're much they're much more right wing populist, 486 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: they're way more socially conservative, kind of what we traditionally 487 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: think of as like, you know, like a racist Republican 488 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: that this this this is their party called called the 489 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Reform Party. So after after loss after loss throughout the 490 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: nineties and during the turn of the century, concertative efforts 491 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: were being made between these two parties to unite into one. 492 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: In nineteen, there was a Unite the Right conference held 493 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: in Toronto, Ontario, trying to bring together politicians and delegates 494 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: from these two main conservative parties. But they also brought 495 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: in some much more extreme Christian fascist parties, which there 496 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: was like four of at the time. There was a 497 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of Christian fascist parties around this time. Um, 498 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: So the conference garnered a negative news coverage in part 499 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: to due to the inclusion of these far right Christian 500 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: extremist parties. And then after the conference, polls were conducted 501 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: that suggested that many of the Progressive Conservative supporters would 502 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: rather vote liberal than vote for the new kind of merged, 503 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: more extreme right wing party. So like a lot of 504 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: these a lot of these fiscal conservatives are like, no, 505 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote for all of this weird racism. 506 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: I just don't want there to be higher taxes. So 507 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna I'm gonna rather vote for the liberals 508 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: than vote for these fucking weirdos, which I mean, yeah, 509 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: that's that, that's the conservative I would rather have. Ye. 510 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Um So, the conference didn't sit well with the with 511 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: the Progressive Conservative Party, um it's politicians or or the 512 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: political leaders. So the merger plans were cut off. They're like, no, 513 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: we're not going to do this. You guys are too 514 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: weird and racist. We're not doing this. Um. Then in 515 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: two thous No, I think it is important that this 516 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: was after nine eleven. I think this is really the 517 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: reason why this happened. UM one of the original Reform 518 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Party founders that the Reform Party is the more populist one. 519 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: So one of the original founders named Stephen Harper, took 520 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: control of the populist Conservative Party and worked to improve 521 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: the optics of the more extreme sides of his party. 522 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: I think it's very important that this this happened after 523 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: nine eleven, and this is how the merger actually worked. 524 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: So in two thousand three, merger talks sort of up again, 525 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: and in August of that year the two parties announced 526 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: the merger had been completed. There was a new United 527 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: Conservative Party. UM. In the announcement, Harper is quoted as saying, 528 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: our swords will henceforth be pointed at the Liberals, not 529 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: to each other, And in December Harper was voted in 530 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: as the new party leader. The work did pay off 531 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: in the two US and six Canadian federal election. The 532 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Conservatives gained a controlling minority government among the electorate, with 533 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: the former co founder of the extremist you know, populist 534 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: Reform Party, Stephen Harper, becoming the new Prime Minister of Canada. 535 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: So this is how he got from Reform Party to 536 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: being the you know, the prime minister in through the 537 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: through the two thousand's um he was the prime Minister 538 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: of Canada for most of the time I lived there. 539 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: That that that's who I think of when I think 540 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: of the Prime Minister of Canada's I think of Stephen Harper. 541 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: So Harper remained as Prime minister until the two thousand 542 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: and fifteen election that saw noted black face appreciator Justin 543 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: Trudeau elected under the Liberal Party. So that's good. What 544 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: a good system we have that that that man like 545 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: just your range of his blood. Look, say what you 546 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: will about the man, very careful, know you under no 547 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: circumstances gonna hand it to him. You do not, in 548 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: fact have to hand it to him. Well, you have 549 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: to hand him the little towel that he uses to 550 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: get the black face off of his face. He can 551 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: go into his work running Canada. Uh huh, yep, cool country. 552 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Didn't find out that like five of our governors all 553 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: had black face photos. It was it was. It was 554 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: a big year for black face. It really, it's incredible 555 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: because I can't picture like again, I grew up very 556 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: right wing and definitely had some said some uncomfortable things 557 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: in my time. I don't think there was ever a 558 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: point in which I would have been like, yeah, this 559 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: seems like a good idea. It's what the fuck like? Yeah, 560 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: it's pretty What is the joke there? It's pretty it's 561 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: pretty bad. Justin Trudeau liberal, Yeah, he is. He is 562 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: the one. All of the wind Mom's thirst over. Yeah, 563 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: that's scans, that's not yeah anyway. Um, Beyond making it 564 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: easier to vote in right of center candidates, what what 565 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: the Canadian Unite the Right accomplished was pushing the conservative 566 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: establishment much further to the right than what the previously 567 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: popular Progressive Conservatives had established, while maintaining the respectability and 568 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: civility the progressive Conservatives had cultivated. We are now going 569 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: to skip ahead to two thousand seventeen. UM. In January seventeen, 570 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: soon after the US President Donald Trump put into place 571 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: the travel band from from you know, seven Muslim majority countries, 572 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau delivered a message via Twitter to 573 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: those fleeing persecution, terror, and war. Canadians will welcome you, 574 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength. Hashtag welcome 575 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: to Canada. So Trudeau is like, if the US is 576 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna be racist. We're gonna we're gonna let them in. UM. 577 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: For this uh, for this next part, I'm going to 578 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: quote from the New York Times. UM. Just hours after 579 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: watching the television reports East in Canada would accept immigrants 580 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: that were shunned by Trump, the twenty eight year old 581 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: political science student packed his glock, handgun and rifle and 582 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: trudged through the snow covered streets of Quebec to a 583 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: nearby Islamic cultural center. As fifty three men were finishing 584 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: evening prayers. He unloaded forty eight rounds. Six people were killed, 585 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: several of them with shots to the head, and nineteen 586 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: others were injured. One was paralyzed for life. In the 587 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: month before his rampage, the shooter tralled the Internet eight 588 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen times for posts related to Mr Trump, 589 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: reading his Twitter feed daily, and homing in on the 590 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: American president's travel ban on several Muslim majority countries. He 591 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: kept a cash of guns underneath his bed at his 592 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: parents house, and among his friends was just his twin brother. 593 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: The shooter told investigators that he wished he had killed 594 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: more people and he wanted to protect his family from 595 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: Islamic terrorists. Experts on Radicalization say that in Quebec, the 596 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: French speaking province surrounded by an English speaking majority, the 597 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: anti immigrant far right offers fertile, fertile, imperilous ground first 598 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: ecologically unstable youths seeking a sense of identity and a 599 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: scapegoat the head of the Canadian based Center of Prevention 600 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: of Radicalization leading to Violence, they said that the Quebec 601 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: mosque shooter was in part of was part of a 602 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: growing number of educated, middle class to white youths in 603 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Quebec drawn to far right ideas, fueled by the election 604 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: of Mr Trump and fanned by fears of immigration that 605 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: threatens Quebec's identity. When the Anti Radicalization Center was started 606 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand and fifteen, they dealt with sixteen cases 607 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: of youths in the province that we're getting radicalized by 608 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: the far right. Last year, which was like six uh, 609 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: this center had one hundred and fifty four such cases. 610 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: So this is this is kind of the the arc 611 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: of things. Really, Trump's Trump's election did respire, did did 612 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: spur a lot of this growing like oh, these political 613 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: beliefs are acceptable now, right, Like this is something that 614 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: is like we are we are, we are allowed to 615 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: do this, and that that did echo in Canada and 616 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: across a lot of the a lot of a lot 617 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: of other countries. What what one of one of the 618 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: victims of the of the Quebec uh massacre his his 619 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: father said that he come to Canada from Algeria in 620 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: the to escape terrorism. UM and he said that like 621 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: Quebec did not create the monster the shooter, but the 622 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: Islamophobia that is inherent inside Quebec gave him like the motive. 623 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: So this is really does relate to connate to like 624 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: the political situation of Canada. And it's very it's it's 625 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence that the majority of these types 626 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: of attacks are inside either Quebec, Toronto or um. You know, 627 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: if you're if you're a white, if you're if you're 628 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: in Alberta. It's sadly it's more tied to like other 629 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: other like conservative values, but like a lot of it 630 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: is around Quebec for a lot of these like shootings 631 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: and all these acts of terrorism. Um there was like 632 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: the there was the in cell guy who ran over 633 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: tons of people in Toronto with his car. Um same 634 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: same kind of thing of like of getting more more 635 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: used to these kind of having these far right ideas 636 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: be more allowed, um and then think them as more 637 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: of like a normalized thing. So that so the Quebec 638 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: mosque shooting, uh kind of well couple a lot of 639 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: people in Canada's being like, oh, we're not immune to this. 640 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: This is like an actual thing that we have to 641 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: deal with. Two. Um. And the next few months after 642 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: Tradeo's January announcement, border crossings did see an increase in 643 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: Canada formally accepted more immigrants and refugees and and not. 644 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: And there was like, uh, the term in Canada is 645 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: like an irregular spike of border crossings. Um. The fact 646 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: the way Canadian media reported this, I think it's very irresponsible, 647 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: the way they tried to like frame this as like 648 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: after this announcement, We're getting so many irregular crossings that 649 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: only fueled this type of like this type of anti 650 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: immigrant sentiment. Um. It was. It was not really great. 651 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: A lot of the old articles I pulled up for 652 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: this for like, had really had really disgusting framing, especially 653 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, viewing it now. So in March, the Canadian 654 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: Parliament passed a motion that condemns Islamophobia and request that 655 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: the government recognized the need to quell the public of 656 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 1: climate of fear and hate, specifically around Muslims and immigrants. Um. 657 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: The motion was non binding, so it doesn't it doesn't 658 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: mean anything. It's just the government saying something nice. Um. 659 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: But it's still it's it's still sparked tons of outrage. Um. 660 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: You know. It called on the government to condemn Islamophobia 661 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: and all forms of systemic racism and discrimination. Uh. The 662 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: the margin was passed by like, it was passed by 663 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: a margin of like two hundred two h two over 664 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: ninety so people a lot of a lot of the 665 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: Conservatives in Parliament didn't didn't like this, but it it's 666 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: it's it garnered so much online backlash. There were there 667 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: were petitions and nationwide protests condemning this bill as an 668 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: attack on free speech. Um and Uh. The person who 669 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: introduced the bill um uh in an MP named um 670 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Akra Khalid see death threats um on through like their 671 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: email and like they had like their private private information leaked. 672 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: And it turned in this very very big kind of 673 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: one of the first things where it had like these 674 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: like national protests in Canada that you know, similar to 675 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: how we had like the free speech thing around to 676 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: two US and seventeen. This was like the Canadian version 677 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: of that and how this kind of started. Um And 678 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: in December, Urdeau signed into the United Nations Global Migration Pact. 679 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: There's another non binding incentive designed to provide understanding among 680 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: nations about how to deal with the global immigration crisis. Again, 681 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: all these things are just people talking um. But it 682 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: made people very very mad because if you're talking about it, 683 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: that means it actually is real and it's actually gonna 684 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: affect you, or it's just ignoring that these problems exist. 685 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: So really, after Trump's election, after the Quebec, after after 686 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: the Quebec mosque shooting, then we have all these bills. 687 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: This kind of ignited a in person rallying possibility and 688 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: in person protests that Canada hadn't really seen before for 689 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 1: this type of like anti immigration sentiments. UM. And we'll 690 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about these protests after after we have 691 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: a little little bit of an ad break. You know, 692 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: who doesn't get protested except for that one time when 693 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: they illegally overthrew the government of Ecuador. Uh have to 694 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: be more the that's right, Garrison, our sponsors only one 695 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: time did they inside cause mass protests as a result 696 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: of overthrowing a sovereign government. That's pretty good, Garrison, pretty good. 697 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: Are you trying to do like a Banana republic thing? 698 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: What are you? What are you doing? I'm just saying 699 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: most podcasts three to four governments overthrown by their sponsors. 700 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: All right, it could happen here just the one baby, Hello, 701 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: welcome to Why Canada isn't a liberal utopia? Uh and 702 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: actually has a lot of the same sytemic problems that 703 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: every other Western country does. And it's not immune to 704 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: fascist infiltration and option so as so I know, we 705 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: we've you've talked a lot about Quebec and stuff, which 706 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: is uh great because yeah, it is a problem. But 707 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: this exists in the Western provinces as well. Saskatchewan, Alberta, 708 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: BC have a lot of these growing kind of things. 709 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: But they're not French Canadians doing this. They're more like 710 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: you know what we in America would you know recognize 711 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: as like rural conservatives. Um. So, around all of this, 712 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, increased discussion around immigration in t seventeen um 713 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: around the same time people in Western Canada had we're 714 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: facing a bit of an economic recession. They had you know, 715 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: significant job loss around this time UM, and projects that 716 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: traditionally brought work to the area, like pipelines were you know, 717 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: there was discussion of them getting stalled and people you know, 718 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: moving more towards renewable energy. This kind of increased a 719 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: lot of the political tensions between the Eastern you know, 720 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: liberal majority Canada and the western more rule Canada. UM 721 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: quoting an article from the CBC, Uh, Trudeau just keeps 722 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: giving away all of our money to immigrants, said Samantha too. Boy, 723 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: that is a that is a French name. I'm not 724 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: even attempted that one. Samantha Frenchie anyway, This mother of five, 725 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: she attained a January fifth rally with a webster, her husband, 726 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: and two of their children. It was her first protest 727 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: for any cause we're stuck paying for all this money 728 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: that he wants to give away to everybody but Canadians. 729 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: My kids are growing up, and my grandkids and all 730 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: of their kids are going to be poor and stuck 731 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: in a hole that they're never going to get out of. 732 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: This is this is you know, very common type of 733 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: thing like oh, we're getting taxed and taking all of 734 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: our money and giving giving away to immigrants. This happened 735 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: after this, after the Syrian refugee crisis, when Canada's sort 736 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,959 Speaker 1: of accepting a lot of Syrian immigrants. That's that's around 737 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: the time that I left Canada. Um. But I totally 738 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: remember people, you know, having very similar sentiments of like, 739 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: why are we you know, paying for all of these refugees, know, 740 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: and of that that that's that's the thing that happens 741 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: in the States too. Yeah. Um. So the economic tensions 742 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: developing in Western Canada, combined with the increase in anti 743 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: immigration sentiments among conservatives, were in part spurred by the 744 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: Trump presidency, led to the Canadian Yellow Vest movement. UM. 745 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: This is totally separate from the French protest movement. UM. 746 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: The Canadian version just stole like the working class branding, 747 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: just used it for their proto fascist crusade. Um. So 748 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: the Canadian yellow Vests were a a group of connected 749 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: protest movements over the course of nineteen that had a 750 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: lot of like in personalities but also a lot of 751 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: online mobilization. It's kind of since tide out, but it 752 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: was a major force in pushing right wing extremism in 753 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: Canada and having it be accessible to like regular people. 754 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 1: Right it's it's not it's not like the Proud Boys 755 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: at all, where it's like you know, specific you know, 756 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: bad people doing this thing. It was like appealing to like, 757 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, the oil workers, appealing to like the moms. 758 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: It was like it was it was it was primarily 759 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: used Facebook as a means of passing off this type 760 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: of information and making it seem you know, acceptable. Um 761 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: the Canadian Loovest's quoting an article from Vice UM Canadian Yelovests, 762 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: which had over a hundred thousand members on their Facebook 763 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: as of May, carries the greatest potential for radicalization leading 764 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: to violence in Canada right now, according to the executive 765 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: director of the Canadian Anti Hate Network UH. The group 766 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: description says it says it was created to protest the 767 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: carbon tax and build that pipeline and stand against the 768 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: treason of our country's politicians who have the audacity to 769 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: sell our country's sovereignty over to the globalist u N 770 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: and their tyrannical policies. But concerns over Canadian soil sector 771 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: appeared to be a very little factor in the discussion 772 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: that goes on inside these groups. Instead, members are obsessing 773 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: over with the defending you know Western civilization from Islam 774 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: Bashing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and spreading whatever you know, 775 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: far right conspiracy theory is trending at the time, and 776 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: I cannot overstate the amount that these people hate Trudeau. 777 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: But it's it's not for like reasons because he wore 778 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: black face. Like they find the most bizarre ways to 779 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: hate this man. Um A lot of these people think 780 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 1: that Justin Trudeau is the illegitimate son of Fidel Castro. 781 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: This is this is kind of look similar. This is 782 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: a very a very popular conspiracy theory in Canada. It 783 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: is like the way that Trudeau is treated by conservatives 784 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: is baffling because like, I hate Justin Trudeau, but I 785 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: think I hate him for like reasonable reasons, Like he 786 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: made a lot bunch of promises around you know, environment 787 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: stuff that he didn't follow through on. He doesn't do 788 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: he doesn't do anything he is. He does a lot 789 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: of black face. It's like there's a lot of reasons 790 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: to hate Justin Trudeau, but not because he's the illegitimate 791 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: son of Fidel Castro leading us to like leading trying 792 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: to sneak Canada into it the socialist You end, like, 793 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: that's not that's not what he's doing, like like the 794 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: illegitimate son of Fidel Castro. There's a couple of those 795 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: in the United States. One of his daughters is now 796 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: like a right wing radio personality and fun that makes 797 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: so much sense. He you know, he's Castro. He did 798 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fucking like who who would care? It's 799 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: not your your fault, who your dad is. It's just 800 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: like this is it's it's like it's like a weaker, 801 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: like funnier version of Birtherism. Yeah, it is. It makes 802 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: it is like the Canadian version of that. Like it's 803 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: very weird. He's like justin Trudeau is very cringe e. 804 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: He lies about all of his promises. Um, he talks 805 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: about game. He does a lot of virtue signaling. It 806 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: does a lot of black face. There's are all really 807 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: good reasons to a lot of black face. Um yeah, 808 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: a lot of black face. But the way, the ways 809 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: that they come up with trying to make him seem 810 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: like a bad dude just baffling. Um, very very bizarre. 811 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: So um. In an interview with somebody from the Yellow 812 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: Vests exposed Anti Fascist Research Team, which was a very 813 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: good Twitter account around it's it's it's inactive now, but 814 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: this this was a very good account, a very good 815 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: account that did really really solid research into the into 816 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: the Ellis movement. UM. In an interview, they were asked 817 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: what type of impact they think the elves Is could 818 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: have in Canada and this was this was their response. 819 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: The image of the threat is no longer the skinhead, blooded, blood, 820 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: blood and honor type. We're dealing with average people who 821 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: don't understand the impact of the rhetoric. They're calling for 822 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: the mass death of an entire religion, or they're celebrating them, 823 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 1: or they're celebrating the violence against that religion, or they're 824 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: celebrating violence against government officials. They are just one step 825 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: away from outright fascism, but they can't see that, and 826 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: they refuse to see that, which I think it's very 827 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: is a very good UM summary of like how the 828 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 1: yellow vests were a popular movement specifically on Facebook. UM. 829 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 1: Another part of it was the idea of like Western 830 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: separatism UM, Like you know, the people in Western Canada 831 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: feel ignored, They feel you know, put upon, They feel 832 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: oppressed not just for feelings, not not just for being Westerners, 833 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: but they honestly feel oppressed because they're white they feel like, oh, 834 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: we're focusing on you know, only gonna give money to 835 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: the brown people. That's the kind of thing that they 836 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: feel like in the West. Um, they're like, well, you know, 837 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: my right to free speech was taken away because of 838 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: the because of the non binding bill, and refugees can 839 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: just walk across the border and they make more money 840 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: than I do. So they they have they have all 841 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: these all these ideas that are not actually based in reality, 842 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: but they can believe them. Um, and they you know, 843 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: find these new sources that are just echo chambers that 844 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: reinforce this belief to the point where they become radicalize themselves. Um. 845 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: It's very it's a very very common thing, especially around 846 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: twenties nineteen. I was tracking a lot of these Facebook 847 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: groups around twenty nine as well, just in my spare time, UM, 848 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: because it's just interesting to watch them interact. UM. I'm 849 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna give like, you know, like a brief recap of 850 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: like a typical yell yellow US protest around like Edmonton, 851 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: UM based a bit off of a cup of of 852 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: of of a few CBC articles, So you know, protesters 853 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: would gather around in front of UM like the Legislative building, 854 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: holding signs wearing bright yellow vests. Um. And they would 855 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: do this like basically every every weekend for you know, 856 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: months and months and months on end. Um. Some protesters 857 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: why stand at the podium showing conspiracy theories about how 858 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: powerful the Jewish families controlling the world are um as 859 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: one as one dude did at the Alberta Legislature UM 860 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: on like January. Um. Some may come sporting red make 861 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: Alberta great again? Hats uh, this was very very popular, 862 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: very popular. Um. Others may proud the sidelines, stress like 863 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: they belong to a biker gang. Um instead of only 864 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: instead of Hell's Angels, patches that you have patries that 865 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: say wolves of Odin and Canadian infidels. Uh. I'm gonna 866 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: give you one, guests, what type of ideology the Wolves 867 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: of Odin have? Yeah? The the communists, Yeah, no, they're not, 868 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: say um, but most of the protesters voices are not 869 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: away from like are not from the fringes. Most of 870 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: them just have jobs, um, you know, you know in 871 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: like high rises, or they drive for uber the or 872 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: their teachers or pipe fitters or real estate agents. And 873 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: although their message is like muddled by all of these 874 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: other like you know, much more overtly extremist kind of 875 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: talking points. They all have one thing in common that 876 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: they feel like they're getting ignored and being left behind 877 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: by the liberals in the East. UM. This is echoed 878 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: by one of the person they got interviewed at these 879 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: rallies was named Lynn Smith, who was a former oil 880 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: and gas worker who now works in the school system. UM. 881 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: They were at a a yellow vest rally on in 882 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: January nineteen. It was like the first first fourth protest 883 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: she attended. UM. She said, they're just giving away our country. 884 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: We have no rights anymore, they're taking them away. No 885 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: more Lord's prayer, but they're putting prayer prayer rooms in 886 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: schools for Muslims. Um, marry Christmas. You're you're You're not. 887 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to say it anymore. It's supposed to 888 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: be happy holidays. They're changing, they're changing our country, and 889 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: we've got to stand up and say something about it, 890 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: because because this is our country. I was born here, 891 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: my parents are born here. It's wrong. So you know, 892 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure people in the States they're from earlier with 893 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: this type of rhetoric. UM, but just the the increased 894 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: nature of in Canada was surprising to a lot of 895 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: Canadians and like president of a lot of like liberal Canadians, 896 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: because they're like, but you're you're in Canada, Why are 897 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: you doing the States thing? What? Why are you doing 898 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: the thing that they do in the States. Why are 899 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: you doing it here? Um? But you know, the same 900 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: reason you know people do in the States is because 901 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: they feel ignored by politicians, you know, saying that's that's 902 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: why this happens in Saskatchewan and Alberta m NBC way 903 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: more than it happens in like Ontario. Right. It's because 904 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, the more farther away you are from you know, 905 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: the big cities, the less your interests are cared for 906 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: by a lot of politicians. So the ones that speak 907 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: to you are these like extremists who are trying to 908 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: pray on these actual you know, financial insecurities. Um. So 909 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: A lot some of the protesters say that they're not 910 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: like a post immigration but but most of the focus 911 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: of the Edmonton Yellow Best rallies has been has been 912 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: about who can come into the country and how they're 913 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: allowed to get here. Um. One one guy named Brett Webster, 914 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: the father of five, who works like a construction construction 915 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: industry says they're overwhelming our resources. We can't properly vet 916 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: these people and make sure it's safe for them to 917 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: come in and make sure that they're skilled and assimilate 918 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: into our country and know our ways and our values. 919 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: So most of the extremest stuff in Canada outside of 920 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: Quebec does come from does come specifically from Alberta. You know, 921 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: the big big cities in Alberta are our Calgary and Edmonton. 922 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: This happens also in a lot of the more rural 923 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: areas that you know, mostly used to run on like 924 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: oil drilling. Um. After losing an election to the more 925 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 1: social democratic NDP party UH, the two provincial Conservative parties 926 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: in Alberta had their own little mini Unite the Right 927 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: and merged together in to us in seventeen, leading to 928 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: their success in the polls in tween. So then the 929 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 1: Conservatives have since then, they've done a whole bunch of 930 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: stuff in Alberta, like cutting down their health care to 931 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: actually a lot of a lot of the Conservative voters 932 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: don't like, but like they voted for because that was 933 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: the platform. You just were being scared of brown people, 934 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: so you voted for the Conservatives. But now, but now 935 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: your healthcare is cut. So that's that's how politics works. Um. 936 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: So that that's kind of a brief summary of the 937 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: yellow vest movement and how it how it gained a 938 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: lot of popularity. Um. They they would do rallies around 939 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: like polling centers. They would they would they would like 940 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: they would attack people. They would have you know, violent 941 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: rallies where a lot of like older older men who 942 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: were in the Yellows movement would be you know, pretty 943 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: violent towards you know, and anyone in their area during 944 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: a protest. UM. But they kind of kind of around COVID, 945 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: the yellow Vess kind of sput it out. A lot 946 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: of the people in these Facebook groups got you know, 947 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: moved into other conspiracy theory groups, um, and the Ells 948 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: movement kind of lost its train. Um. So that's where 949 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: we're kind of going to end for today, is with 950 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: the kind of the Elves kind of fizzling out. And 951 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 1: then the next part we'll talk about what's happening from 952 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: like and the election that year took like kind of 953 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: the present fascist rumblings um inside different sectors of Canadian politics. 954 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, that is that's my that's my very very 955 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: brief right up of of right wing populism and extremism 956 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: in Canada. Uh. Pre yep, it's fun. It's not fun. 957 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's it's upsetting. Um, and it's you know, 958 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 1: it's a lot of the same problems we have here 959 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: of you know, politicians really ignoring people in certain parts 960 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: of the country which provide provide very fertile recruiting ground 961 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: for a lot of extremists. I think it's going to 962 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: all end well, well, that is our that is our 963 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: that is our official policy, that everything is going to 964 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: turn out great. Yeah, it seems fine. I mean there's like, 965 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: there is actual ways of preventing this from happening. Right, 966 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: It's not it's it's not a hopeless thing. We can 967 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 1: actually do it if we want to. Just people with 968 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: power to do it, don't don't don't like doing it. Yeah, 969 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: well and good. That is the message of the pod Sophie. 970 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: Cool and good. So yep, that's that's Canadian fascism part one. 971 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: Cool um. I would recommend if people want to learn 972 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: more about the Canadian uh yellow vests, check out the 973 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: yellow Best Exposed Twitter account. Uh. There's also like there's 974 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: also articles about them. They were a very a very 975 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: good anti fascist research team. Um yeah, I would just 976 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: recommend if you want to learn more about this, the 977 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 1: specific movement, all of their work on it has been great. 978 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, shout out, shout out to Yellow Vests Exposed. 979 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: That's the pod. Alright, Well go get your Tim Hortons 980 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: and tomorrow, yeah, I go get your Tim Horton's and 981 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: you're I don't know, maple syrup and go find a 982 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: moose fo Zone Media or Happen Here pot on the 983 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: twits and the inst against Bye bye everybody, a goodbye 984 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: a It could Happen Here is a production of cool 985 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: zone Media. 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