1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for our daily Bloomberg labrare for 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news, and today Bloomberg Law 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: host Jun Grosso and Greg Sture discussed President Trump's Election 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Integrity Commission, which is being led by Vice President Mike 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Chris Kobac and is 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: attempting to stop a voter fraud in America. They speak 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: with Josh Douglas, a professor at University of Kentucky School 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: of Law, and each personally your professor at Stanford University 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Law School. Is there any problem with the goal of 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: trying to gather information from the states about their databases. Well, 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: for the most part, we have a very decentralized electoral 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: system in the US. We not only decentralized down to 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: the state level, but we decentralized further down to the 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: local level, and so a national database of voters does 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: not exist. So what the Kobac Pence Commission is trying 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: to do is unprecedented. Um the secretaries of State have 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: indicated to Kobac that he the the kind of information 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: that he is asking for from the states. Uh if 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: they were to provide it would often violate state law 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: because he's asked for our real wealth of information from 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: about the individual voters. I don't think there is a 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: problem legally with assembling a national database of eligible voters 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: per se. But the way he's gone about it is 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: contradictor to some of the state laws. Josh, what is 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: he looking for? Really? Is there another way to do 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: what he says he wants to do without getting all 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: this information? Well, it's not clear what he really wants 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: to do. Um. And that's the problem. And I say 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: it's not clear because although he claims should be seeking 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: evidence of duplicate registrations or or people voting illegally, um, 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: what he's asking for is not the way to do 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: that um. And so I think, well, a lot of 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: people are concerned about is that he's gonna if you 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: were to obtain this information, she would to learn what 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: we already know, which is that the voter registration roles 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: can be bloated for for normal reasons like people die, 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: people move, um. And that's not evidence of voter fraud. 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I think the concerns that he's gonna say, well, look 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: we have these bloated registration roles, there's voter fraud here 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: and that's going to support ever more restrictive voter voting laws. 41 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: And and that's what I think one of the big 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: problems is. That's Josh Douglas, a professor at University of 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: Kentucky School of Law, and Nate were Silly, your professor 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: at Stanford University Law School, speaking at the Bloomberg Law 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: host ju In Grasso and Greg Sture. 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