WEBVTT - 2014 NFC Championship with Michael Bennett | Packers vs. Seahawks 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.680 Immediately after that game in locker room, it was shocked, 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:05.400 Why did we not run it? 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:07.280 Yeah? I think that was what everybody was thinking. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.039 Was that was that everyone's mind. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:10.959 Yeah, I think he still thinks. I think that's one. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.119 He would probably never say that, but I did. I 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.000 bet in his head a little bit there, Like he 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.160 wonders if what happened if you just ran the ball? Right? 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.520 I think most likely could did two quarterback sneaks? Yeah? 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.200 That sorry that I'm thankful that they ran. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.760 Yeah. Yeah. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.800 Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.680 and Kyler, and we are on the mission to find 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:40.320 the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:45.400 the twenty fourteen NFC Championship game between the Green Bay 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:50.280 Packers and the Seattle Seahawks, with eleven year NFL VET 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:55.160 Super Bowl champion, three time Pro bowler and former teammate 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.240 Michael Bennett, we get into talking the story behind his 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.240 pads or lack thereof. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.800 And my show up pass are super small. I enjoyed 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.720 it though, you know, everybody'd be like, how'd you even 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.520 every game? They'd be like, like, I don't care about 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.839 to knock somebody out. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.200 His fight with Rob Gronkowski in the Super Bowl. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.800 Oh not just like man, they won, you know what 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:16.800 I'm saying, Like, let's fight. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.319 You know what I'm saying, And what it's like to 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.880 play for Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick and Seattle. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.360 They never really called out like Russell on certain things, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.840 but like, but Bill will call talk him out on everything. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.600 How's a guy who's been the MVP four times? This 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.679 fucking route right here, and you're just back there like 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.000 dam going off with Tom Brady right now, and. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.880 Then we hit the old hot line. You gotta stick 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.720 around to the very end. Let's go Games with Names 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:51.560 is a production of iHeartRadio. January eighteenth, twenty fifteen, Century 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.600 League Field, Seattle, Washington, but. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.960 Back to back Super Bowls on the line. Russell Wilson 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.800 throws a pick down two scores with five minutes. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:05.960 The Packers have a ninety nine point three percent probability 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.120 to win. So you're telling me there's a chance, there's 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:10.919 always a chance. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:12.600 This is the. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:25.880 Twenty four NFC Championship game. Yeah, it's so hard to 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.800 explain a football, American football game to someone who's never 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.920 seen it, like international. Yeah, because I have a couple 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.440 of people that you know, you have these international friends 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.359 you meet and they're like, oh, football, what is that? 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:37.040 You know? 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.079 Like, oh, you guys stop every play. I'm like, yeah, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.720 it's it's very strategic. You gotta get ten yards and 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:42.520 four tries. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:43.600 Yeah. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.280 The ball exchange when kicking is always confusing to them. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.280 Why are you doing this? 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.480 They don't understand nothing. You try to get them. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:51.839 Like it has grown though. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.519 I'll get confused on rugby too because I don't understand it. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:55.920 I'm like, but why would you want to get hit 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.400 like that? How much are they paying? Like that doesn't 0:02:58.400 --> 0:02:59.120 make any sense. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.959 Don't they make money in other countries though Rugby like Australian, Yeah, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:04.760 they gotta make money. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.040 You're always like looking at the four of yourself like like, damn, 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:08.920 I should have been a race. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.440 Car driver, bro, I don't know if you could fit 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:11.959 in a race. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.040 No, but it had been the first. You know, they 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.080 would have to make it for me because everything's changing. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.080 You got to make everything for everybody. And like I 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.080 could sue them because they don't have the right size 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.880 car for my body, Like it could be a whole thing, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.079 force my way into that. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:26.000 It's a weight thing. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:26.760 Soon Nascar. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.000 Yeah, just just doing d I could just just do it. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.520 I could literally just du my way right to the top, 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.160 Like I could come in last and just be like, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.720 but it's for tall people. I'm the first tall person 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.480 to come in last place in NASCAR. Like I'm in 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:45.320 the history books. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.640 Freaking the Bennetts. I mean, this is the kind of 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.600 ship that Marty was saying the offensive team meeting. When 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.200 we're about to go, like the AFC Championship, Marty would 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.400 be like, have a random thought just like that. So 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:58.800 it's it's hereditary. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:00.680 It's hereditary. But I was I was just like, yeah, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.040 I should have been a NASCAR like looking at Lois Hamilton, like, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.240 man eighty five a year, that's that sounds pretty good. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.800 Well that's not an ASCAR Formula one. Yeah, those guys 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.040 make a lot. All right, let's get it started. Welcome 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.960 to Games with Names. Today we are talking the twenty 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:23.040 fourteen NFC Championship between the Packers and the Seattle Seahawks. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.839 Welcome to the studio, Michael Bennett. 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:28.920 Nice to be here, man, This is a nice studio, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.440 though I don't think people were real live high nice. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:32.680 Actually it's pretty cool. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.040 Yeah, it is it's like you're surrounded by wood right now. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.240 It feels very warm. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.559 You know, if that comes from you a man who's 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:46.320 in architectural digest school, he's got furniture companies. I mean 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:47.679 it means I'm doing something. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.200 Now, you're doing something right, beat to a lot of 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.640 athletes's houses, and like sometime like just because you got money, 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.960 don't mean you got taste. You know, we'll take it. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.719 Well, the nuthouses got taste, That's right, the definitely got taste, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.320 all right. So in one sentence, why did you pick 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:04.320 this game? 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.480 I would say maybe one word grit. I think it 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.960 was a gritty game because sometimes and as you know, 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.920 those championship games, like when you guys play the Falcons, 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.120 like it was like that on don't know why you 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.640 can win that game? Is true grit because it takes everything. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.880 A lot of times people get into those moments where 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.720 the game just seems very impossible and you're just kind 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.920 of looking around at your teammates and looking like looking 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.640 at who's going to give up? You know what I mean, 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.680 And like every once in a while you look around 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.400 and you're like nobody's giving up, And then like that 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.600 become the most grittiest moments in the game. Those are 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.760 games that you really remember grit. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.719 That's that's probably one of the best one sentence answers 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:41.160 that we've gotten on. 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:42.200 This hands down. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.800 That's a football freaking answer. Now, it is just the 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:45.919 greatest game of all time. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.560 Nah, not the greatest game of all time. Maybe my 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.960 greatest game of all time. But there's been so many 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.200 great I don't think there is one great greatest game 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.320 of football because I feel like football is constantly changing 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.559 and things like at one point, you know, the people 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.120 who were would make the Hall of Fame in the 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.320 nineteen sixties win make the team now, you know what 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.120 I'm saying, Like the game is changing and evolving, and 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.200 like there's just more beautiful moments that keep happening. You know, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.560 sometimes it's purely office and it's purely defense. It feels 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.440 like more football is like these years, more offense than 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.880 it is defense. You know, Like there's so many great games, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.680 Like you look at Patrick Mahomes last year. It's just 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.400 every game changes, and I think it just happens. I 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.800 don't know there's no one great game of football because 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.240 the game of football is just great by itself. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.200 Another great answer but I did hear one thing. Last 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.440 ten years, eight of the top eight of the Super 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.279 Bowl champions had top five defenses. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.279 Wow, that's that's important. I think people overlook defense. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.320 Hey, defense wins championship. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.120 That's right, baby, Offense score ports. But you gotta have 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:44.960 somebody to stop it. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.440 You know, you gotta make one stop. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.320 Yeah, what's the point of having a big pool with 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:49.120 a big ass leak. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.919 What's the point of having a big pool with the 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:54.120 big ass league. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.960 You jump in that bitch and but your head wide 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:56.680 open like that. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.000 No, water is like blood sport. You can make it 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:00.800 a fighting thing. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:01.920 Now remember that? 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:02.400 Yeah? 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.560 Oh A love that fighted the pools that are half done. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.520 And kickboxing when he was kicking that tree. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.720 Yeah, I saw some chick doing that. I think she 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.880 was in Russia, from Russia or something. Those Russians are crazy, man. 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.640 People don't really give Joue club down, his his his 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:23.280 his his props. Like well, like all these action movie stars, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.200 like this guy was doing his own action movie. Like 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.560 this guy was like every movie back in the nineteen 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.560 eighties and early nineteen nineties, Like you know, like you 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.280 watching it movies with him. Time cop, like I love 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:38.720 time Cop Double Impact Man Double Impact, and then the 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.920 one where he was, uh, he was going on that 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.160 trip and he and he was fighting, and then he 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.080 had the he stole a guy's name in New York 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.840 in like nineteen nineteen or something that Time Cop. No, No, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.680 it's not Time Cop. It's the one where they were, like, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:51.960 I can't even think of the name of it right now. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.160 I might have to text you about it. That's not 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.240 Double Impact. No, it's the one where they were there 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.680 was a championship. They had to win that thing, that championship, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.120 and he got he stole something. They left him in 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.280 Thailand and he learned how to fight the kickboxer. No, 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:07.440 it's not Kickboxer. Same premise, though they are. I they were. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.040 My favorite movie about him was Cyborg, though. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:11.800 I liked Universal Soldiers. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.920 Yeah, I forgot about Universe soci Yeah, I was. Yeah, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.120 he's like we need to give him, so give him 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.360 his props because. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.160 Like he was flexible, freaking yoked. Yeah, he could do 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.280 all them. There was. Every one of those movies had 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.520 at least a ten to fifteen minute montage of him 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:32.120 doing some kind of like split freaking like kung fu type, 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.959 like leisure full I don't even know what it's called, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:36.040 but that crazy stuff. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.080 But you don't speculate it. You don't even watch it 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.040 for the language or the talking or the script. You 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.040 just like he whooping the ass in the fake and 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.800 then the double double, the double kick where he like 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.440 do kick two people at one time? 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:51.720 He and the split. 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.319 Yeah, that that one, that one. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.920 I mean he did it in like at least six 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.280 of them loved. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.079 It that movie. Yeah, he should have been in UFC, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:08:59.600 but I don't know. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.600 It's yeah, those guys will choke them out. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.439 No, But the other guy was like him too though, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.720 but he people forgot about that guy too, the guy from. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.679 Canada, Saint Pierre. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:09.439 Yeah, remember him. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:10.720 Yeah, he was a monster. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.439 He was a monster, but he didn't Unfortunately he didn't 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.880 catch a big part of the time when money was 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.839 like a big part of it. No, it was still new, 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.960 it was still knew, Like Conor McGregor, like he made 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.200 so much money because like. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.760 A huge thing that catapulted in the UFC. Though he 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.040 was like one of the first real big superstars of it. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.200 Dana come on and talk about it, and he was 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.000 loving that up. I mean, I know they have their things, 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.880 but like he's very appreciative of Connor because of his 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:41.240 world's success. So clearly nowadays your daily life schedules watching 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.640 a lot of fighting. You're a big fighting faniced today 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.679 looked like now that you are retired. Average day, average day, 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:48.600 what are you doing these days? 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.240 Average day? I wake up, make myself a a barista, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.600 coffee myself, got my own coffee machine, get my own beas. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.079 What's the coffee? 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:57.920 I like this one? I got this one from Columbia. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:58.720 I was just in Columbia. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:00.640 Now as an expressive is it a coffee? 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.600 I do espresso sometimes most of the time, but then 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.240 I'll do make my own. I like flat white, so 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:05.760 I'll make my own flat white, but I have to 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.439 get the machine. Froth, yeah, dude, the froth and ship 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.720 is hard, though it is. It's a mastery. Like I 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.360 actually have a lot of respect for Starbucks every time 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:14.880 I go there. Now, Like at first, I be like, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.560 damn herd with the coffee, man, I got some ship 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.920 to do, you know what I mean? But then I'm like, hey, man, 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.240 calm down, and ship they doing is very hard. I 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.000 tried it at home, you know, Like I'm empathetic to 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.240 Starbucks at five am. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.240 That little the little tree they make is not easy. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.760 The little tree thing they make with the milk is 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.360 not easy. That's art the name right, Yeah, man. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:35.959 That's that's that's that's some art. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:36.280 You know. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.640 There's and but I wake up and make some coffee, 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.000 take the kids in school, jump into meetings because I'm 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.600 designing so much stuff. So it's like I'm always like 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.440 meeting with manufacturer and the team and like you know, contractors, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.800 just designing really kind of mostly what the day. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.720 Is studio cur Yeah, can you explain what a studio 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:53.520 curve occurs? 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.720 Like? It's I guess it's a monoker at the studio 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.240 name that I use for my design practice. What you is? 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:05.960 It means home in Whooloff Senegaluese language. When I retired, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.640 I went into a design school, in architecture school, and 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.200 then I just started designing after that. I always my 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:12.920 brother always said, had a great test, so he was 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.040 like it was super easy to go into design. But 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.800 I always didn't want to just go into the design 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.560 like from a sense of like this highness level where 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.480 it's just like I've made some money and I'm just 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.199 gonna not do it the proper way. I think because 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.640 I went to football. It's like going to school with 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.959 collegiate kids. I mean the first time I went to school, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.920 you know, that first time was all about going to 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.680 the NFL. You know, it was like what nah, I'm 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.040 running the sprint, you know. But this new time was 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.320 the second time I went. It was really learning. It 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.200 was learning. It was like it was very good, but 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:42.480 it was like I was like, damn, I don't know 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.959 how to use a computer. I was in there. It's 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.360 like like I even know the computer could do all this, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.280 you know what I mean? Like I'm just straight up 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.480 like email and looking at World Start. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.560 And then you know, I'm one hundred percent the same boat. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:53.880 Dude. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.400 Like now that we you know, we've made this production company, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.400 we got all these Google docs and we have, you know, 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.640 the workplace, I'm like becoming a little bit of you know. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.440 It guy, how many Google Docs have you actually opened? 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.480 You open every Google because we do. We do the 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.560 Google docs for Fox kickoff. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.400 Yes, seven jobs though, you know this guy has like 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:16.040 seven jobs. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.360 Seriously, But I like everything on the Google doc because 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.640 everyone could throw it in there. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.679 You know, it's you learning. It's like and I think 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.640 the thing I learned about in design school is just 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.199 like to have humility, right, I think to start over 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.959 to transition to something else, you got to be able 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.040 to like be okay with not knowing anything and be 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.800 okay with like being coached and do I think so 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.640 having no skills from football actually made going into architecture 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.480 school a lot easier because although my wife was like, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.000 why are you up at four o'clock in the morning, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.520 like doing a project right now, I'm like, it's like, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.640 but I'm I'm I'm doing it. You know, I want 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.240 to do it from the traditional hard way of learning, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.720 But being in football kind of learned all those things 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:57.760 right precision, teamwork, collaboration like work ethic, all these things 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.520 that you want to find as an athlete to put 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.120 into somewhere else. It becomes very difficult sometimes because a 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.880 lot of people don't know where to put that skill out. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.640 But there's a lot of things you could do that 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.599 don't require you to go get hit anymore. That you 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.240 could take these skills and apply them to something else 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.000 and become really good at good at certain things. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.680 Applicable, the things that if you were a guy that 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.920 was in the league for a consistent amount of time, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.679 those skills can be applicable to anything. Yeah, like what 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.360 kept you in the NFL? What got you the NFL. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.120 If you treat anything like it was the NFL and 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.000 you had a longer career that you could apply those 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.080 to anything, it'll translate. And I I I'm you know, 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.200 you have three, three daughters. They're here right now, they're beautiful, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.320 and they're looking at schools and I'm so. I so 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.840 try to bring that into my father and with my child. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.800 With what you just said, you learned how to learn 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.640 through sport, Yeah, because that was your passion. Yeah, I 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.040 try to tell that to my daughter. You know, like 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:58.200 right now, when you're doing soccer, you're learning how to learn, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.280 learn how to you're learning because you're learning communication when 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.680 you have to lean on a teammate. You're learning the 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.600 accountability factor of when you didn't put your practice in 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.160 and you did something wrong and you're you're gonna feel 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.040 embarrassed around your teammates because they're doing the right thing. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.520 You learn all these real life moments in team sports. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.480 And I love that you say that. I'm gonna have 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.560 Lily watched this specific part. And there's no f poms yet, No, No. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.240 It's true because I tell my kids all the same thing. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:32.000 It's like I think in the NFL, like what they say, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.400 the tape don't lie on Monday, like it's gonna be revealed. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:36.800 It if you were supposed to be in the B 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.400 gap and you're on the on Sunday, you're like, I 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.280 wasn't the big gap, boy, but you're in your head, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.280 you know you was. Their coaches like, but they just 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.560 ran a power in the big gap. You're like, but 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.920 I was there, Like you argue it in reality and 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.720 you're like, I wasn't in the gap. Yeah, And so 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.280 it's like being you know it don't and so results 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.280 don't lie. So like having your kids understand what sport 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.520 is for, like isn't so much about the championships or 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.080 it's just about I mean, of course in the NFL, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.440 but at that level, is really about learning how to learn, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.840 how to learn, and then respecting lost so much that 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.880 you respect winning. You know what I'm just saying, Like 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.920 what is what is losing feels like? And then when 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.840 you win, you like, what does that feel like? You 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.440 respect losing so you can understand winning, you know what 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.920 I'm saying. I think that becomes very complicated for kids 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.640 sometimes because you know, it's like, well, it's always like nah, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.920 it's about the process. You know. Everybody always get caught 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.960 up in the finished product. And we live in a 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.880 generation where everything is microwaveable, and it's like we always 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.280 see the finished thing of everybody. We look at Kim Kardashi, 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.360 but we missed them years when she didn't when it 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:38.960 was when she didn't have that you know what I'm saying, 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.360 Nobody remember that part, Like we just remember the finished 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.600 product in law school. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.800 We miss the years that she really god damn smart 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.440 or goddamn grinder. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.920 But but that's what I'm saying, It's so much about 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.600 we missed. We live in a generation where Instagram and Facebook, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.040 they only give us the finished product of things, and 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.480 we missed like the phases that people go through. And 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.600 I think that it's important for children to learn their teams. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.600 You know, it was like, you know, you're not gonna win. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.520 But like I said, that's why I said the word grit, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.800 because you find out who grew up in the gritty situations, 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.160 you know. I remember Coach Carroll brought Angela Duckworth to 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.080 the to the to the team and she wrote the 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.760 book called Grit, and I remember, you know, I was like, man, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.440 what do white people know about grit? But then she 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.120 taught me something, you know what I'm saying, And but 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:24.960 it was good. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.880 Though Michael was Marty and Marty's bigle bro. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.000 Go ahead, keep going. But it's true. It's like you 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.120 got to have grit to survive, right, because it's like, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.000 and it gets more complicated the more wealthy achieve. And 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.840 how do you teach people that have to have empathy, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.360 to have understanding about other people's experiences, to respect the 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.640 journey of others is really really hard. So your Daddy's right, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.800 literally practice practice now. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.680 Talking about your team, you came from a household of six. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.280 Your family was military family. Yeah, you're moving around a bunch. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:05.520 What was that? 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:05.800 Like? 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.160 What was what was growing up in the Bennett household? 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.920 Like, man, growing up in the Benning household was very fun. 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.480 Me and my brother are very close. Like my parents 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.359 got divorced and my dad got remarried and then we 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.000 went separate ways, but then we also kind of always 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.879 got together as a family. Like my brother and my 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.719 other sister live with my mom and him. Me and 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.040 my brother lived with my dad and my dad and 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.159 his new wife had a baby, and it was a 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.520 was like a blended family. So I feel like America 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.480 is kind of like this's like traditional familyation. It's just 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.080 kind of blended, right, And I think we grew up 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.760 really between Texas and Louisiana was like the main place, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.040 but like growing up in California, living in San Diego, 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.080 living in Brimington, traveling around, been in the military. I 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.720 think you you, I feel like I was born to 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.439 go to NFL because I feel like that's kind of 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.879 like how things are in the NFL, Like like you 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.560 were lucky, you had to be. You were on one 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.240 team for a long period of time. A lot of 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.080 guys got to move around a lot. But you earned 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:04.800 that though I'm not saying you was given to you, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.280 but you earned that way to be on one team. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.639 A lot of times you get moved around. But I 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.200 think as a kid was kind of like seeing my 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.560 dad in the military. My stepmam was a teacher and 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.600 which that was really great because I got to see 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:21.200 how school systems work. But it was a very traditional family, 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.399 like we had dinner everything, but it was a sports family. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.159 Me and my brother, we just played everything together. We 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.920 shared a room. We did play college football together, high 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.720 school football together. On the time we didn't play together 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.480 was in an NFL. We did have a chance though, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.479 when I was coming out to go to Chicago. But 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.840 then my brother was like, you know what, you stay 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.520 in Seattle because it's like that's your thing, you know 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.399 what I mean. And Plus, once I called and they 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.880 said Julius Peppers was leaving, I was like, I'm good. 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.080 I thought Jap was gonna be there. So I was 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:47.720 like I always wanted to play with Julis Peppers and 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.879 he was leaving. But growing up and just moving around 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.520 kind of like and you know, being from Louisiana and 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.800 growing up in Texas, it's they're very close. So I 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.200 got a lot of times, you know, spending during the 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.680 school year in Texas and going home to the countryside 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.399 of Louisiana during the summertimes. I learned so much. I 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.280 think that was kind of where we kind of like 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.760 played football and we want to be Alvin Harper, want 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.600 to be everybody the Cowboys. I grew up, my favorite 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.639 team was Tempa Bay, so I was was was like 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.520 Tempa Bay, Temple Bay. Why. I just love defense. I 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:23.840 love one set Rendez, Barber, everybody, John Lynch, Brooks, Shelton, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:31.920 Dereck brook Barber, Yeah, Barber, Uh great expires, Like just 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:39.000 had tons of people like Mike Aslock. John said, like 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.960 you know everybody, John Gruden, you know what I mean, 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.679 before John Gruden got hit with the racist thing. But 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.160 you know, hey, you know. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:49.760 You know it happened. 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.159 Yeah, John, I mean you never said anything to me, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:57.639 but you know, but but I just loved, loved the 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.320 Temple Bay. It was a defense, you know. So like 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.000 seeing all those guys rush the passer, Warren Sapp and 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.720 just everybody Boogermint Farland like those my team. So I 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.360 just run Tampa two all the time, Tampa to Tampa two. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:11.320 Man. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.919 That's all I ever did. Then Bliss Ronde Barber. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:21.119 Yeah, I think everyone what years were those I was 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:22.480 on the cover, wasn't he? 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:23.360 Yeah? 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:24.000 I believe. 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.760 Yeah, shout out money Kiff and Tampa to baby Oh 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.400 yeah money that defensive. 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.960 Uh tree though, Like sometimes when I when I played 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.320 for Tampa Bay, like when I used to go up 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.560 there and look at that tree, like dangn who Tony Dungee. 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.240 Rahie Moore is he. 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:40.960 Was head coach there for a second. Yeah, he's the 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.440 head coach, but he's also like twenty two years old too. 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.280 He was also a part of like the younger tree, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.080 you know, like looking back when they just had all 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:53.280 the extra coaches like you uh and then they had uh, Tomland, 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.119 they had, they had who else they had? They had 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.560 so many coaches on that team. But it was just 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.879 crazy when you just go up there and see herm Edwards. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.439 It's just like a lot of great people on that 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.320 team that were coaches, and you like look back at 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.639 like they not only did they have a Hall of 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.320 Fame staff of have a Hall of Fame players, but 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.879 they also had Hall of Fame staff and coaches. Like 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.760 all those guys became head coaches and made their own 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:17.879 impact in the game. Like Mike Tumblin has been coaching 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:19.760 the same same game, same team. 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.160 You know, had lost and that a losing season. Yeah, 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.920 been pretty impressible with no offense this year. Yeah, it's 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:28.640 been crazy. Are you still watching ball man? 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.199 Come on, I love football. I watch football like I 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:32.200 watch on YouTube though. 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.920 Yeah, just the highlights that watched the tim like I 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.000 got to get the twelve minutes and twelve minute, Yeah, 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.000 get the twelve minutes off it Like it's like, like 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.280 you know what I mean, like the two hours, three 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:43.400 hours of watching one game. 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.000 I don't know if I have Sometimes I'll do if 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.040 it's like a really cute game. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:47.840 That was my first thought when you were living in Wales, 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:48.680 like how do you watch ball? 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.240 I watch it later on I get to go to 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.560 the beach and do all the earthly things, and then 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:54.320 I come back and be. 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.119 Like, yeah, how is it living in Hawaii? Bro? I 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:58.520 love it, man, It's gonna be amazing. 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.440 It's super It's a I think while I was playing 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.199 in an NFL made a lot of sense to like, 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.159 you know how the season is kind of hectic and 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.399 it's just like reboot. Yeah, it's like a reboot. And 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.480 then sometimes you go back, you like how did you 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.879 even do that? Like how did you even like like 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:13.560 it felt like just like a whirl when when you 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.240 think about it, like you really just getting up to 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:17.800 get beat up again and then to get meat up 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.919 again and again, like you go back, You're like that 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.120 was kind of amazing, like for us to like go 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.760 through all that, but like being Hawaii after the season 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.919 would always be grounding with my family and like and 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:30.800 then like living there just made a lot of sense 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.560 after I just stayed there really because it's just a 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:37.600 beautiful place. It's beautiful people. People are really nice to everybody, 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.359 you know. It's very family oriented type of place. 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.600 So the Hawaiian culture is so fascinating to me. I 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.920 grew up in the Bay, so we grew up around 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.960 a lot of Pacific islanders like Tongue and Samoa and Hawaiian. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.680 I went to Samatos so there was always the Hawaiians 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:55.000 that came over, and like, I never got to experience 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.080 it until about two years ago. That was the first 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.480 time I ever went to Hawaii and I was like, man, 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.680 people are so nice. Their culture they are They're very 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.560 traditional with a lot of like their old old like 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:12.600 hundreds and thousands of year generation like culture traditions are 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:16.520 still intact and stuff, and they're they're warm people. 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:17.880 Yeah, they are like. 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.040 The most loving, coolest people. Don't know, if they're on 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:24.880 a different football team, they'll rip your head off. 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:25.160 Yeah. 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:29.359 But if if you're there, boy, they love you. 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:29.960 They love you. 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:30.760 I love you. 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:32.840 That's all luck about it too. It's like it's always 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.560 that thing that's always really complicated when it comes to culture. 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:39.440 Because how do you take culture and also fast forward 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.760 to make it modern? And I think sometimes, like you 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.199 find ways of Hawaii does a good job of it 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.160 being able to play homage to the past but also 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.359 living the present and kind of talk about the future 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.320 what the island will kind of feel like. So I 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.639 think when you think about the politics of all that, 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.920 it's super hard to keep a culture in tact over 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.720 years and years and years and generations, right, And I 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.720 think that's what makes Why really cool because they do that, 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.159 you know, and all the little things and nature, the 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.200 trees and learning certain Hawaiian words, similar to the New Zealand. 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:09.920 New Zealand's like that too. When you go to New Zealand, 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.280 it's kind of like the Mari culture and like they 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.199 kind of keep it in Morocco too, Like you in 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:15.800 Morocco and you're like, well, I guess a lot of 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:17.879 good places that really have culture like that. You know, 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.439 you think about it, like the Moroccan Tito. I used 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.359 to love Moroccan Tito. I realized it was just sugar. 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:25.920 I was like, God, damn, three cubes of sugar for one. 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:27.800 I never had it. 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:29.400 Shirt tea. 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:30.600 That's a lot like sweet tea. 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.840 It's beyond sweet tea. It's beyond sweet tea. 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.080 It is roc and Tea. We're gonna check it out. 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.399 Yeah, Like the guy smiles at you, You're like, whoa, 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:39.639 he has no teeth. 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.040 It's probably because more sugar. 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:47.199 You're like, nah, no, end up like that. No, I'm good, 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.480 I'm good. Now. 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.200 You were undrafted? What was it like getting your break 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:52.840 into the league? 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.919 Man? That was super hard though, because it's like being undrafted. 0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.440 It's just like it's the hardest thing because you it's 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.320 like you get the last rep. It's like everybody eating, 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.280 they'd be like, what's left over? You'd be like, damn, 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.280 there a little crumbs there. Yeah, like y'all just left 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.879 the tail of the chicken wing. So it's like it 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.080 was just really complicated because it's one of those things 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:17.879 where you have to like really go as hard as 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.560 you can every single practice. Every single practice is a 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.200 championship game for you, every single moment, to the point 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.280 where people have to tell you to slow down. You 0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.000 know what I'm saying, Like, Nah, I've seen rookies in 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.280 there and they kind of like, you know, real real 0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.800 Lackaday's a cool and like real cool. You know back 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.840 then it was like nah, I was like you had 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:35.440 to get it, get it how you live, and it 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.119 was like out the mud. So like being un drafted, 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.280 it just had to switch my mindset to realize that 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.680 every single moment counted, every single play would count, every 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:45.800 tugicle thing that I would studying, like, it couldn't be 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.439 one of those things where I would, you know, go 0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:52.520 into the game not being fully prepared. It was like 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.480 man at practice, I had to watch film and I 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.760 think that made me a better player as I got older, 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.919 because it was like I took those save my ideas 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:02.040 and it just became a part of my identity. Is Yeah, 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.240 so that's really what really what it comes down to 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:05.880 and drafted is just you have to make your mind 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.720 up to like or being even you know, being a 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.680 six or seven round is pretty much the same thing. 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.520 I was right there with you. 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.760 You got a bigger bonus, but you don't have the 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.440 opportunities are the same, you know, like the. 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.439 Opportunity of the same, and it's almost worse to go 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.080 in the six or seventh because you're locked down for 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.320 four years. Yeah, when you're a free agent, you only 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.720 have two Yeah, that's true. So like it's cool to 0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.879 get a forty nine thousand dollars check, which whatever it's 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.240 it was a lot of money to me at that time. Yeah, 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.080 but it's the same. 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.080 You know, that's a vacation for some people. 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.119 I thought I was rich after that. 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:41.000 I did too. I did. 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.199 I got forty nine racks. Did spend a dollar of it. 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.280 I said, I'm keeping this in a bank account. 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:47.919 And you feel like a different person. 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:48.840 Like a different person. 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.600 But I think that's the really challenging part of the game. 0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.639 But I kind of I missed that old NFL. I 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:55.679 mean I don't miss the concussions that everybody got, but 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.399 I do miss like the like the practices and like 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.320 the mount of contact, like you know, just out there 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:02.320 just really playing. 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:06.359 I mean, that's that's we all, anyone who played that game. 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.480 We all have a little something missing. Yeah, and you 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:14.439 know the crave contact. You know, that's I used to. 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:16.800 I mean that's something you always miss, just competing against 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.359 another guy. We're at your best and he's at his best. 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.560 Yeah, you didn't shot away from that. I remember like 0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.920 going against like Walter Jones and like my hip still 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:26.520 heard from Walter Jones and he pushed me my hip 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.080 board time, so damn walk but wat was a Hall 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.439 of Famer. But it was so good to go up 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.080 against Walt and like learn or like been in my 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.560 first years in Tampa where he had like Jeremy truebla 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:42.800 Devin called Knicks, you know, Donald Penn, you know Jeremy Zutah, 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.920 like that was the offensive line. So like every single 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.040 day in practice, I was like, man, I was like, 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.040 I'm going to get my reps because it made me 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.040 such a better player, Like going against Carl Nicks. Car 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:52.680 Nicks was like the best guard. If he never would 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.240 have had a toe surgery, he would have been the 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.280 first battle of Hall of Famer and like, so like 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.600 going against those guys every single day would just make 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.639 me a better player. But I joyed that you had 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.359 guys that would like hide against the best players. I 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:04.480 don't want to go against. 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:05.920 Carl, you know, I want to you know what I mean, 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:06.680 without a doubt. 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.440 They want to look good. But like even a loss 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:10.960 against Carl was like almost a win, you know, because 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.600 when you start winning, you like I'm ready, you know 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.399 what I mean, I'm ready, Like Jeff Fane and all 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.560 those guys, Like it was kind of like dope to 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.119 go against those guys when I was there. 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.800 That's the battle within the battle, like what he's talking 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.720 about right now. The wins in practice, you count those. 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.360 When you're a late round guy or you're an undrafted guy, 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.880 you count every play you had, was it a win 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.199 or was it a loss? Because that's exactly what the 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.920 goddamn coaches are doing. So it was like it's life 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.720 or death. It literally is like life or death every 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:43.200 freaking rep you got in, Like you have to control 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.720 your emotion because you didn't know there's only three reps 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.120 every week. Maybe then you might. 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.800 Get and similar to you, I had to do the 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.840 same thing where it was like I had to learn 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.560 more skills, you know what I'm saying. Like, so I 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:54.880 had to learn how to play inside. I had to 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:56.080 learn how to play nose. I had to learn how 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.640 to play whatever they wanted me to play, the versatility. 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.040 So I was actually thankful for that because they gave 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.160 me a longer career, right because you have to learn 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.520 how to do all those things. You have to be 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.360 a good blocker, Like you can't be there, you know 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:07.640 what I'm saying. You can't come in and be like 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.520 I'm not gonna be good on blocking. I'm gonna be 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.360 good only on slant routes, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.040 And it's like you have to learn all those skills 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:15.800 to become a better player. And I think that was 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.680 something that really helped me kind of grow as an 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:18.800 NFL talent. 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.479 When was the moment you felt like you made it? Like, 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.080 when did you feel comfortable? Because I know the first 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.320 few years. I lived that for five years, right, I 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:28.760 thought I was getting cut every year. 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.440 I thought I was getting cut every year too. I 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.840 feel like the first time I actually felt like second year, 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.240 second year Seattle. I feel like every year before that, 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.400 I just had like maniacs man attitude, like man, I'm 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.000 getting cut, you know what I'm saying. Even though I 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.080 was out there starting like I was a first round tender, 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.640 like you know what I'm saying, Like I was still 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.520 like making plays, but I still was always like, man, 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.040 I was undrafted, why would they know? 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.440 Wh would they keep me in security? 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.680 And then also they also have they also drafted people 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.440 every year every and you beat them out every year. 0:29:58.480 --> 0:29:59.880 You know what I'm saying. You like, dang, It's like 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.840 I guess like when I got to Seattle. I feel 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.040 like I kind of belonged a little bit. I feel 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.000 like that was the first time I like my time 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.400 in Tempa was really good because I feel like if 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.320 my defensive line would have stayed together and didn't get health, 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.960 did get hurt like Gerald and Adrian Claiborne, and we 0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.360 stayed together for longer, we probably would have did what 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:18.680 we were supposed to do. Because we had a really 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.120 good team in Tampa, Like we had a key to leave. 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:31.920 We had Keller Winslow before you know, yeah it King's 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.840 the best teammate. King was the best team man nice 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.520 and neat. We had a lot of good people on 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:40.000 that team and we and so, but we didn't we 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.840 didn't win. But being in Seattle was like there was 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.600 like a lot of like minded people. When I got there, 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.400 I was like, man, like, it's camp. Like the team. 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.160 It was like we're just jail. Like we all had 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:51.000 to say mattitude. 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.280 Yeah, I mean it was apparent we'll dive in more 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.560 of the team. But let's get let's get into this segment. 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.600 We'll be right back after this quick break. 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.000 Hey hey, hey, it's Rob Gronkowski here and I'm with 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:07.080 my bro or my dude, Jules. 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.880 And we are super excited to tell you about our 0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.440 new show, Dudes on Dudes. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.520 We're just regular dudes as well. 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.400 Sometimes we can't read, sometimes we can't speak properly, but. 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:19.680 That's what dudes do. 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.120 But Dudes on Dudes, seriously, who named this? 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:28.800 Anyways, we're spilling all the behind scenes stories, crazy details, 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.920 and honestly just having a blast talking football. 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.680 Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.640 from legends to our buddies to current stars. 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:42.520 And the best part, we're finally answering the age old 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.640 question what kind of dudes are these dudes? 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.480 Is Travis Kelce a stud or a freak? 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Always messes up because it 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.239 was a twenty fourteen season, but it's a playoff game, 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:35.320 so it's in twenty fifteen. 0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:35.760 That's right. 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:37.960 Number one movie American Sniper. Did you ever see it? 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:38.800 Of course? 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.200 That was a good one. Sad at the. 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.640 End, sad at the end. I wasn't expecting that. I wouldn't. 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:48.480 I don't think anyone was that. It was badass though, Yeah, 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.160 but how badass was the other guy too? Doing it 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:52.240 like nikes? 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.320 Yeah? You know. It's so crazy though, because everybody always 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.479 giving me Sniper. People always give this snipers the credit, 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.920 but I always think that they the spotter is the 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.320 most deailiest person. 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:03.400 Because he could see us. 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.080 No, because the Spider really talks another guy into killing somebody. 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.960 The spotter, who's your spotterer guy? 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.760 That should be just understanding. I understand. The spider guy's like, hey, 0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.600 he's right there on the forty five. If you want 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.479 to pull the trigger now, you can, or you can 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.800 do it at thirty two degrees to the left and 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.440 you blow his brains out this way. It'll be a 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.840 lot of blood on the ground. But you know, like, hey, 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.080 no blood on my hands. I didn't pull the trigger. Like, 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.200 the spider is pretty dangerous if you think about it. 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.960 He's just he's just calling he's just calling the shots. 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:32.760 The shots. 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.160 Literally, Jack's your spider. 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.640 I got you. Bro went a little bit of it. 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:41.760 Let him fly Man. 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:46.160 That movie was crazy. The number one song was up 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:51.400 Town Funk by Bruto Mars featuring Mark Ronson, Ronson Ronson. 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:53.200 That was that was a good song. 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.800 Though he was like all over this the Grammys this year. 0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.360 And this was the year, but this was the year 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:00.240 for the music year. 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.440 That was a fun year. Went to I went to 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.440 the I remember him performing and I think he performed 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.520 it at that huh. 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.160 Him and Malcolm macol reason. 0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:19.319 Oh yeah, damn that hurt more now, Sorry, Bro, dudes, 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.919 run the ball. No but true Detective. I love that show. 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:28.960 My god, was this the best one? Yeah? I don't know. 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:32.040 What's your favorite season? 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:32.879 Yeah? 0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.359 Third one is not bad but bad. 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:36.880 Yeah that was not bad. The first one was the 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.319 best because it was more that far. Yeah. The last 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.600 one was not bad, but it kind of like they 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:45.560 like almost made it too spooky for still watching. Yeah, 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.759 it wasn't bad, but to get in there. Matthew McConaughey, 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.839 what you hear? So that's how anytime those two people 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.560 are anywhere that sounds like a good time, it's gonna 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.120 be there. Matthew McConaughey, Oh, y'all be there. You know, 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:55.719 Like that's that. 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.560 Makes you want to think they're brothers. 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:02.360 Really, there's like a lyric, there's there's lore that they're brothers. 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.880 If you look at it dad happening around there that 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.000 they conferred that maybe there's some stuff going on. 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:08.320 I think they could be brothers. 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:13.080 Wow. You ever see wood in Hawaii? No? Oh, okay, 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:14.040 that's right now with my bad. 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.560 So this was also when this when this movie came 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.640 out or this show, This was like the first big 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.080 show where like movie actors I felt were going in 0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:28.000 doing the HBO shows that were like movie actors. I'm like, 0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.320 what they're doing a TV show? Yeah, I don't remember 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.920 any other time before this where you saw that. 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:36.759 It's not the first, but it's definitely early. It was 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.200 early won Oscar and Emmy same year. 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:39.960 Yeah, that's what I mean. 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:46.080 Yeah, and then the Carrie Oh yeah, like his camera 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.240 angles that one scene where they went into the trap 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.920 house and it was like running through in that camera 0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:52.279 was like on his back and it was like that. 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.800 It was like he was catching everything that was happening 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.040 and then like it was like fast forward and time forward. 0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.399 It was just like very incredible integrity the art. 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.600 The art is crazy, bro, Like you think about. 0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.120 The integrity of the art, I'm gonna write a book 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.520 about your integrity of the art. Post below drops White 0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.200 Iverson on SoundCloud. That was a pregame that. 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:16.120 Changed white America. That changed white America. That was like 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.759 that was like postmark, but he changed though, Like now 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.759 he's like it's like at old country. 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.239 Music, the country He's hit a whole lot of different race. 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.759 He has no tattoos right there. He like literally like 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.680 crazy crazy, like he's like he's a country music but 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:34.800 White ivers Son he changed. That changed white America. Eminem 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.680 no eminem. It was like a different type of white America. 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.160 He was still like dirty shoes white America. Like this 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.959 is like clean air force ones like throw a little 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.520 chain on, Like yeah, that was like that was like 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:48.120 now it's cool. 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:48.759 He changed it. 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.799 He changed it, man, shout out post. 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.800 It was on your pregame mix, pregame mix, Little Boosy, 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.600 Little Boosy, Yeah, that's it, little Boosy jay z Rick Ross. 0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.000 That makes me laugh though, because like White America, like 0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:03.920 you be in the stadium they be playing those songs 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.640 and you just be like, I don't think they know 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:09.279 what that actually means. Like like I remember like being 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:10.920 in Texas A and M and they would be playing 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.880 Rick Ross Push It to the Limit. I'd be like, 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.279 do y'all know he's talking about cocaine right now? You know? 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:22.000 Like it's like push it to that limit? And then 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.640 like this is yeah, they like they're playing this and 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.680 their kids go home like, Dad, didn't you hear about this? 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.000 Push It to the limit. They're like like what is 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.120 this like? But it's so funny because they played in 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.560 the stadium and the music be so like they don't 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:38.239 get the content in it. Yeah, Like or maybe they do. 0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.879 Maybe maybe I'm the fool man that could be that too. 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.200 Maybe they did. Shake Shack goes public. I wish I 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.000 could have invested in that. 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:47.080 Are you a Shakeshack guy? 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.000 I like Shakeshack, but I wish I would have been 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.480 a more important moment if I would have actually put 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:52.279 some money into it. 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:53.640 Did you have an opportunity. 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:55.799 No, that's what I'm saying. That would have been all 0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.359 the time. I's like Tom Brady is the only person 0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.480 that gets those opportunities. I mean, he's always in the 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:02.359 right rooms the other death and he has six million 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.160 dollars for watches for so I was like, damn tem Berter, 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.480 you got six million dollars. It's just the ones you're selling, 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:08.879 you know, That's what I was thinking in my head. 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.160 I mean at this point in his career, he already 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:13.080 had three Super Bowls. 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:14.680 Yeah, so he was in the meeting when they were 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.600 like we got to stay called shakeshack. 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.840 Yeah exactly. I mean he probably been in a lot 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.800 of them rooms. Yeah, He's also been in some rooms 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.799 where those investments didn't go well. 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.799 The insider trading didn't they off. I forgot about that, 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:35.399 But that sound like a good idea though, Like it's 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.880 sound like a good idea when he first did it, probably. 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.520 It's like are you are you a burger guy? 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.680 Yeah? I love burgers. Like if my wife gets mad 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.160 at me sometimes when I go out the country and 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.480 I'm just like trying to find the best burger and 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.600 god damn China or some shit, you know, She's like, 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.960 they're not gonna have it, Michael, but I keep trying. 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.759 Though Japan probably hasn't seen burgers, Japan. 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.680 Does have some good burgers. They do. I think they 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:59.319 had the overall, Yeah they did. I didn't like the 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.040 burgers and London is okay. But they gotta they can't 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.040 have this rule that they got to cut ground beef 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.120 all the way to the could end. 0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.040 Yeah, they can't have you Like, what do you like 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:09.160 your burger? Medium? 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:10.080 Medium plus? 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:11.719 I like medium plus. I like that. 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:12.680 Yeah, medium plus. 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:13.680 I just wanted a little. 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.480 Pink and then I and I'll leave a steak place. 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:17.120 If they'll know what medium plus is, I just get 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:21.880 up and leave. It's not a steak place. Guys, I 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.680 know what medium plus is. Bring up the bring off 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:24.839 the guy in the bag. 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:26.880 It's not medium. Well, but it's not me. 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.000 I gotta pull up on the phone. There is a 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.160 medium plus. He's right here, just right here on the 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.399 steak chart on Pinterest. You know, like, well, you gots 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.000 you gotta go off on them like that, like because 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:37.439 they don't. 0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:43.080 In the sports World twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, Aaron Rodgers 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.719 was the MVP boy. 0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.120 Yeah, he was in this game he was, he was 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.720 in this game he lost. 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:52.920 He hit you guys with one of those Cadence touchdowns. 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.359 Yeah he did. He always does that. It didn't worked 0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.359 though last week though they. 0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.800 Got to coach coaches. Not there no more for a 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:00.920 say something about. 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:01.000 I don't know. 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:01.360 I don't know. 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.120 I don't know what. I don't know, man, I don't know, 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.759 I don't know. I feel like he said something. He 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.400 tried to make us feel like, you know what I'm saying, like, 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.879 definitely something. I believe that that thing doesn't happen without 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.760 Aaron Rodgers having a little part and make a decision 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.319 on that, right, you know what I'm saying, like or 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.120 that that is something people have been thinking about. But 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:25.319 to be fair, to run the Jets, but roberta Robert Solla, like, 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:30.239 I mean, they took the quarterback from what's his name? 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.399 I forget think he's he's out the league right now. 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:34.080 I didn't like him anyway. 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:34.960 Didn't like Wilson. 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:36.880 I didn't like his haircut. It was something about his haircut. 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.480 He's yeah, he's pretty. 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.480 He was a baby of the post malone era. 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.759 Yeah, he's definitely that post malone. 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.640 Baby killed him. He should have been a baby of Like. 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.719 He's Mormon too, right, Zach Wilson, Yeah, I think he's Mormon. 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.640 That was that was the beginning of the end right there. 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.439 Like they just could never get the quarterback situation right, 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.520 and they thought going with Watch mccallay, with Aaron Rodgers. 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.600 They wanted the big name so bad. But it's like 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.719 there's been so many great quarterbacks that they missed out on. 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.840 Lamar Jackson. God damn, you know, it's just CJ. Straw 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.080 like like you know what I'm. 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.319 Saying, Like Sam Donald's in the room, he's killing it now. 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.279 Yeah, he got dropped about him too. Yeah, they missed, 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.520 but they missed. But to be fair to Sam Donald, 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.880 like it's unfair to put certain quarterbacks in certain situations 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.160 without the proper office on line and then also with 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.440 the proper person development, like you got developed, like like 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.160 lucky to say, Donald, he's into a situation where he's 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:31.920 probably primed to be where he needs to be to 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.000 make the next situation. I mean, you look at some 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.279 of these other quarterbacks that maybe had one good year 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.759 and then after that they don't they don't turn out 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.160 to be any good. It's like sometimes the preparation as 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.680 a quarterback allows you to develop a lot better and 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.440 understand the game a lot faster. Like you know, like 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:48.600 they can't make the right throws. The NFL is getting 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.279 a lot faster. They're paying a quarterback so much that 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.160 they don't even pay the office line. You're lucky if 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:55.839 you have a good office lineman. Now as a high 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.000 paid quarterback. 0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.120 Yeah, the cap keeps on going up so and and 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.839 now they're just they're given a percentage of the cap 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.000 to the quarterback. Yeah, now it's different, you know what 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:07.760 I mean? Now, what are they getting like twenty percent 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.160 of the cap? 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:10.520 You know at the beginning of the year when they 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.120 bring that ANFLPA and they did a little cap chart 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:13.680 you remember that. 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:15.960 Yeah, and they show like what teams had. 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.840 What's this percentage of your team on a dispendage, And 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:19.800 it's always like. 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.279 Wow, like but you know when you look at that 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.600 percentage and like this this is the PA used to 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:28.040 come in roughly every year at the same time to 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.879 give us the information that wasn't associated with the team. 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.040 So we'd have a players Association meeting with the PA 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.239 leadership that would come into the facility that would nothing 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.440 to do with the team and they would show us 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:39.920 all this stuff. 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:41.680 Yeah, they show us the chart off where a team 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:43.799 is spending the money. And like whenever you saw like 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:45.960 the defensive office on line is one of the highest 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.560 pay you like, the team is probably good, you know 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:51.160 what I'm saying, Like like the yeah, if the team 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.680 had like like damn office line, like you like, they're 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:55.319 a pretty good thirty team, you know what I mean. 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:57.680 And like usually you can only do that when you 0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.720 have a good young quarterback like a Russell Wilson. 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.960 About Patrick Mahomes and and that line they got Tony 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:04.840 who's one of the highest paid exactly. 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.200 Yeah, but Patrick Mahomes at this point, like what does 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.360 money even mean to him? Like there's at the end 0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.360 of this thing, he'll be the first player probably to 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.520 ever reach a billion dollars through just purely sports in 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.520 football for real, He's going to He's the best player 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.239 that we've seen come out the draft and the only 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.200 player to I would say that Lamar Jackson is the 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.560 best athlete we've seen in many years. But the best 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.600 player I would say is by far Patrick Mahomes. 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.720 I mean it's not even close to anymore. 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.680 And hey, the game. 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.440 He does, but he's also tapered his game and he's 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:40.520 become a disciplined football player, where early in his career 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.839 he was all about hero ball. It's been way more 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:47.000 impressive these last three years, last two years where he's 0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.880 reinvented himself and had the discipline to take what the 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.000 defense gives him, play to the strength of his team, 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.640 which is the defense, and not make the mistakes which 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.400 he's made interceptions this year. But he's still put his 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:02.600 team in situation is to always win like Patrick Mahomes, 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.440 which Lamar doesn't do. Anytime it is a third down 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.000 and the team needs it, whether it's four minute when 0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.319 they need to seal the game or they need to 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.320 get the drive going to continue the game, he makes 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.319 that play. And that's what the greats do. Right now, 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.160 Lamar hasn't done it. Blitz zero has killed them. I'm 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.879 in the TV, I'm watching the film as of late 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.920 the Lamar like he can't. He hasn't. That's why he 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.839 hasn't won super Bowls yet. The only guy who does 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:33.320 it at consistent rate all the time is fucking Patrick. 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.080 But also to be fair to Lamar Lamar Jackson, is 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.960 that every single play call that's being designed with Andy 0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:39.920 Reid at the helm. 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:40.399 That's true. 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:43.040 They play there's always a check down receiver coming out. 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.040 There's always a way for him to get rid of 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:49.080 the ball and sometimes with sometimes with Lamar Jackson on 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.200 a third. Yeah, you think about the blitz zero is 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.480 like those those those coming like they're his receivers. Like 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:56.880 I mean, I think them. 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.080 Actually last two seasons have come down to blitz zero. 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.560 That's what I'm saying. And like sometimes the receivers aren't 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.520 really well versed in the game. 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.759 Let's get a freaking playing coach like when when in 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.719 two thousand and four, in two thousand. 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.440 But Derek Henry's changing that because Dereck Henry gets in 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.840 the opportunity to do less plays. 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.200 I'm not worried right now. I'm not like right now, 0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.759 it's regular season, and I think. 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.840 They never had Derek Henry. I think Derek Henry in 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.960 the playoffs. As you see, the NFL's get to a 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.680 place where I saw some players against the Broncos, not 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.040 the Broncos, the Buffalo Bills that I for sure saw 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:35.279 people not tackle, not tackle bus decisions they were they 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:36.120 were life decisions. 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.600 And it's not even cold yet it's not even cold out. 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:39.360 They did not want to. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.080 Tapen until it gets and you have to tack. 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.920 And that's what I'm saying. I think, what with Henry, 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.600 the game is going to change for the Ravens and 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:47.880 a player, but. 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.120 Their defense isn't what it was. But I think it's 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:51.120 a struggle bus right now. 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.759 Yeah, but the first two games, the first two games, 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.359 they didn't get a ball to Derek Ry. They didn't 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:56.880 know how to use him. Then they then they that 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.000 third like well he is Derek Henry, and then they 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.840 just started like pounding it and pounding it like in 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.080 the playoffs in December. I need to see Derek Henry 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:05.680 with thirty plus carries every game. 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.839 But maybe they didn't do it at first so they 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.040 could taper off the carries for the older fella. 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.239 No, he's the way he eats and the way he's 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.600 doing He's a different type of athlete. 0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.560 But I think, who's the craziest athlete you ever saw 0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:19.200 in the locker room that You're like, this dude's a 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:20.279 specimen Like. 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:21.400 Is Percy Harvin? 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.359 Percy Harvin pound for pound spect. 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.719 Specimen man like that guy, Percy Harvey. Like people forget 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:27.160 about person. 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.680 He was a month touchdown back in the Super Bowl 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:30.160 with you guys. 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.399 Percy Harvin was like one of the best athletes I've 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.040 ever seen. You know Josh Freeman too. Josh Freeman was 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:36.040 a crazy athlete too. 0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:38.000 Hernandez used to tell me that Percy Harvin was the 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:41.080 best athlete he ever seen. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have 0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:41.520 said that. 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:43.760 The TV show is very interesting. 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:47.960 I haven't watched it. I see the clips. 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:49.480 I don't know if it's really true or not, but 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:53.080 I'm like, I don't know, ex acting not acting rocks Man, 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:55.239 Oh my gosh. 0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:58.440 Man dunking the ball in the goalpost became a fifteen 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.839 yard unsportsman like penn Old. Is that Jimmy Graham rule, 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.600 the Jimmy Gramble. I think he did it once and 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.799 it bent the bar and they had to postpone the game. 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.160 Yeah, I mean, not a lot of people can't even 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.520 do that, you know what I'm saying. It's like a 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.759 very rare feat that you could actually jump up there 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:16.839 and dunk the ball. I mean on every team, there's 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.600 probably like four guys that can actually do that. 0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.359 Yeah, right, I think a lot more guys can do. 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.480 Like really get up there and do what Jimmy Graham 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.319 was doing. That wasps like Gates could do it. That's yeah, 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.279 a lot of guys could really go up there like really. 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.400 Yeah, like I saw someone do it recently. 0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.320 Yeah, you saw a guy do it recently. 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:35.840 Who was it? 0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.520 I don't know. You didn't say like everybody's doing it, 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.560 like everybody can't didn't. Yeah, I can't do that. 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:42.320 I used to do that in practice. 0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:52.640 I don't it. Billy Tonyo Brown was a crazy athlete, 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:54.320 even though he didn't practice very much when it was 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.359 the Patriots, well he did though. It was pretty amazing. Bro. 0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.520 Remember when he we didn't have a ball touch the 0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.359 ground when Antonio practice, we had the best week of Remember, Yeah, 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.239 that practice was ever because he rose the level of 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:06.880 everyone else. 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.600 He was so good man, he was monsters. He really 0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:10.320 is a good player. 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.160 He was man. 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.200 He Tom tried everything to make sure we would want 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.240 to super Bowl. Yeah, Tom, if you would have stayed, 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.839 Tom tried everything. Tom was just like you know, just 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.160 like just just just come on. 0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:24.960 Man, I'll drive you to work, you know what I mean, 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.239 Like didn't a place to live, Like what do you need? 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.279 Like you want to you want my trainer? You want 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.399 my food. You want to like if this just come 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:33.799 to work and do what you're supposed to do, Like 0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.000 like Tom Knew, like he would literally try to get 0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.960 him to like that guy loves the win. 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:42.560 Win man, but man winning on that sack dance? What 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.040 is this the Rick Rude? 0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.399 Yeah, Like I think everybody grew up being a WWE fan. 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.440 I mean I know w but you can't even say 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.120 anything because like you can't even like anybody because like 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.200 if you like somebody, like you like them and you 0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:58.000 posting that you liked him, like two years later, like 0:48:58.040 --> 0:48:59.640 people can go back and look at your post and 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.760 then the guy turns out to be like a killer 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:04.239 or like might be diddious, you know what I'm saying, 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:05.920 Like could be anything. Like then all of a sudden, 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.880 you're like, yeah, I gotta knock my post down. So 0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.399 like even with Vincent, man, it's like. 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.600 Damn Vince, I haven't seen that one either. 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.040 I just I just read some of the stuff. I'm 0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:18.440 like you did what? Like who does that? But anyway, 0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:21.800 I love w W, like you know, Rick Rud and 0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:23.520 all those guys growing up or something. 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.279 We're like, so, did you you ever get fined for 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:26.920 a dance. 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.239 They told me I could only do two pumps. Two 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.680 pumps and I know three day was like that, that's 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:34.279 too much. 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:35.920 He stop it. 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.799 Three girations is too much. He always knew that. 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.520 The I don't even want to say his name, but 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.680 there's a ref that was always a little stickler with 0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:47.120 all that ship. I don't want to say his name, 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.399 but he knows who he is looking at you, Cleat Blake, 0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:54.319 Scott Novac, Fucking Scott Novac. Look, he looked like a 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.560 principal out there just trying to hold court. Always didn't 0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:59.040 even let you jive with him. 0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:01.040 And the Chris part about referees, they all have like 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:01.760 good jobs. 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.200 Yeah, you like what are you like, They're all like 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.360 lawyers and what do you do? 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.280 Like, oh, yeah, I'm a medical doctor. 0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.680 Like how do you have time. 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:10.880 To do this? 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:12.839 Like there's a couple of former players now though. 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:14.480 Yeah, but I'm just saying it's kind of crazy though, 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.080 Like when you think about those guys and you talk 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:16.799 to them and you're like. 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.839 Well, they're not full time. I mean you would think 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:20.239 that the league would make them full time. 0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:21.359 They all have. 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.839 Guns now too. It's like an arms race to get 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:28.360 like bigger biceps. You know, they're all going on hockey. 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:29.360 That was old hockey. 0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:31.160 He was the first one getting all jacked and now 0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:32.640 his little son's getting all jacked. 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:33.799 You got to get jacked up out. 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.720 They don't want to be getting tossed around out there 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:37.399 to fight. 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:40.840 And but you can't really talk to the NFL referees 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.239 like that. But NBA you could say whatever you want. 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:47.320 Let it fly, baby, those guys dig Bevetta take it all, Jackie. 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:49.560 Let's set the stage for the Green Bay Packers. 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:49.879 Yeah. 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.200 Sorry, I got my caught up on Scott Novak's LinkedIn 0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:52.839 page over here. 0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:54.600 University. 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:56.080 He went to University of Phoenix. 0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:59.879 University of Phoenix, according to this he did. Who knows, 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:03.239 people don't let's not put his name out there in 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:04.000 allural craft. 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:05.240 You lug into university. 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.200 Yeah, let's move into the Packers here. Twelve and four. 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:14.000 This was Mike McCarthy's ninth year. Uh we know he's 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:17.320 down in Dallas now. This was the dom Capers led defense, 0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.120 undefeated at Lambeau, tied for the league best record twelve 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.880 and four with the Seattle Seahawks this season, won the 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:27.160 NFC North four years running, led the league in scoring 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:28.600 four hundred eighty six points. 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.040 That's Rogers, Eddie Lacy. 0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:35.719 James Starks, DeVante Adams, Rookie year Daddy mac Daddy James 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.800 Starks shout out Buffalo College from Niagara Falls. 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.480 Ye crazy, uh. 0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.279 Jordy Nelson speaking of fines, he's a uh. 0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:44.800 He's one of the officers. 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:46.360 Now, yeah, he's one of the fine guys. Who is 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:48.359 your fine guy? Remember Marton Hanks used to be one. 0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.400 Of the guys. Those five people they get paid pretty 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:52.520 good money. Man, Oh do they really? Yeah? They I 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:53.080 got so mad. 0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:54.000 I used to love Merchant. 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:55.080 Can I get that job? 0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:57.640 What's the fine guy? I have no idea. 0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:59.960 So, like when you get fined for like on four 0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.279 like conduct Or, I threw the ball in the fit 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:04.200 the stands once got fined for that. You gotta have 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:07.000 like a little hearing. So the NFL sets you up 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:11.240 with some guy or former player. So it's like friendly 0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.480 fire type shit. You're over here trying to buddy him up. 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:15.840 Like I was talking to Martin, like, yo, you know, 0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:18.080 you're such my favorite guy. When I was a kid 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.480 with the neck thing and everything, didn't even do anything. 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:23.680 Slap me with the fine, didn't even reduce it. 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:25.719 I'm like, come on, no, that's how I go. 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:26.160 Man. 0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.040 It's like you're imprisoning and like they got the prisoner's 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:32.560 judging if you're gonna get out or not. But he's like, 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:34.640 I ain't never got out, so you're standing. 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:37.480 No. 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.600 I was just that's that's crazy, exactly. That's crazy. Now 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:41.719 they make pretty good bread though. 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:43.040 That's funny. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:44.600 Oh my gosh. 0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.359 And uh we talked about this guy earlier, but they 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:51.000 added Julius Peppers in the offseason to bolster that defense. 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:52.080 What a legend Hall of Famer. 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.560 What was your thoughts on this Packers team going into 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:56.520 this guys were already fun fact. 0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.359 You know Tom Clemens's wife is Kathay Clemens and they 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:05.000 do clemons on Yeah, fun fat But Don Caper is 0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.719 that defense. I think that was one of the best defenses. 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.440 That they weren't like a super physical defense compared to 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.880 like the forty nine ers, but they were strong and fast. 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.239 I think people forget about Clay Matthews. I think Clay 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:17.520 Matthews should be a Hall of Famer, and he was. 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.200 He was out there. Juwis Pepper's on both sides. Nick 0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.239 Perry was coming off the off of it then you 0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.520 got a j Hawk like that team was, you know, 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.040 and people forget it. I've been knowing Jordan Nelson because 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:29.680 he went to Kansas State and I went to Texas 0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:31.560 and m so we alway played against them. He was 0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:33.400 one of the best receivers. He just kind of and 0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:34.320 he just kind of disappeared. 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:34.640 One year. 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:36.480 He was like super good one year, the next year 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:39.800 he was gone. Yeah. Then like Randall Cobb and Eddie Lacy, 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:43.120 you know, speaking of Derek Harvey, like nobody want to 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:44.279 tackle Lace at that time. 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:48.480 He quick this game, he was fast, he was strong. 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.560 They had that play that they they had the office 0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.560 lineman kind of spread out a little bit. Then they 0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.000 would kind of do an a gap run and they 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.160 kind of do a little stretch with him with John Coon. 0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:00.359 Then they had James Starks, who was a really good 0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:02.720 running back. Then they had old good old Matt Flynn, 0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:04.759 you know, and then like the offensive line was really 0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:10.560 good too, right because they had uh, look like t J. Lane, 0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:12.359 like you know, Josh Sitting. I had to go get 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.280 them lame all those guys. Although that are really great 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.200 office in line. You know, they didn't really give up 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.600 that many sacks that year. And they were just a 0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.319 really over good, good, good team. I think that was 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:24.560 one of the better teams that played. Obviously, they had 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.319 like a stacked team, and the kicker, Mason Crosby, didn't 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.040 really mix that many kicks or whatever. 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:32.680 Then we're still kicking somewhere right, Mason. 0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.960 Didn't like defensive line, you know, that was pretty good. 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:36.959 That was probably the defensive line is probably the least 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.120 known people on that team, like Mike Neil from Purdue, 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:43.880 Mike Panel, Dante Jones from u c l A, like 0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:46.680 all those guys. Like those guys, Mike Daniels was pretty 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.880 good player, went to Pro Bowl I think the next year. Overall, 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:51.279 that was a pretty good, strong team. 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:54.680 You know, the twelve four really damn good. Aaron VP. 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.240 Yeah, and then you got Randall Cobb. Like people forget 0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:58.000 how great Randall Cob. 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.920 It was really good. He was young. This is a 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:01.840 young Randall Cobb. 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.560 And Julius Peppers can't even came and said enoughing about 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:05.880 Julius Peppers. 0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:06.279 The freaky. 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.040 And then a J Hawk was really good too, man, 0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.960 A J Hawk was cold National champion. 0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:13.680 Yeah, and then like Super Bowl champion. 0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:16.359 Look at the stats. You know your two receivers over 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.440 a thousand yards to almost over thirteen hundred. You know 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:23.320 what I'm saying, you know, fifteen hundred, twelve hundred. Davonte 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:25.520 Adams was a baby receiver at that time, but he 0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:27.480 was learning from all the dogs. You know what I'm saying, 0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:31.080 Like thirty eight touchdowns, no five interceptions. Man, I think 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.320 Russell Wilson through five interceptions in that game, you know 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.560 what I'm saying. Like Eddie Lacey was you know that? 0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:37.160 So that team was really good team. That was a 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:39.000 really fun team to play against because they had so 0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.640 many stacked players and they were just really a great 0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:45.439 overall was Charles Wilson wasn't on that team. He wasn't 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.560 on that team? What was it? 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:49.359 Like Shak and Aaron who was always fun. 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:52.879 But Aaron is like a really like competitive person too. 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.800 So like if you make a good player, he'd be like, 0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:56.320 good job, you know what I mean, or like something 0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:59.319 like like he'd be mad, but he'd be like you're 0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:01.239 a good player or something like you know what I mean, 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:02.640 Like you. 0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:06.880 Don't get yeah, But I think Aaron Rogers is a 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:08.719 hard person to like though, you know, because it's like 0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:11.440 Tom Brady is a lot easier person to like, you know, 0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:13.239 I feel like there's like those people that are like 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:15.920 they're just like, man, this, I don't know what is 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:16.440 a bottom? 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.239 How is Tom? How is Tom compared to when you 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.279 didn't play with him, from when you met him? 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:28.080 Man, I feel like Tom is also like a great 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:31.319 student of the game because like he knows like if 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:32.920 you're a good player like Neil, not if you're a 0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:34.600 bad player, but if you're a good player, Tom can 0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:36.359 repeat to you or like certain things that you did 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:38.279 in the game or how you do it. Like he's 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.560 a very respectable player. You He is the type of 0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:42.360 player that you don't have to have pro bos for 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:44.799 Tom Brady to respect you. You just have to be 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.200 a good player, like a player that did something great 0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.680 for the team that were influential to the way that 0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.799 that team played, like how you were a nucleus. Like 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:53.720 there's some people who get a lot of pro bos, 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:55.680 like you know what I'm saying, Like the Patriots, like 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.640 y'all have a lot of good receivers, but sometimes y'all 0:56:57.640 --> 0:56:59.360 didn't get the pro bos that you'll deserve, you know 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:02.080 what I'm saying. You know Wes Walker did, but like 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.399 other people didn't you know, get those ones, but y'all 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.279 did have great people on y'all team and people who 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:09.120 are in the league with respect the players that y'all had, 0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:10.920 you know, maybe didn't show up and all of the 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.080 you know, oh that's the guy. But then you're like, 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:17.600 man like Julian like that he tough, but you gotta 0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:20.160 respect him, like you know, like Eve when we played y'all, 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.400 it was like, oh, yeah, Julian Ellman, like, yeah, that's 0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:24.640 that's one of the guys that like, yeah, he's like, 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:26.560 y'all all gonna have respect for him at the end, 0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:29.040 because doesn't matter the player of the game or how 0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:30.919 is you respect the way that he plays the game. 0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.200 He gets up from the hits, he does whatever. Team 0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:34.960 like people, you know what I'm saying, Like you might 0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:36.320 not know it because you're in another locker room, but 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:37.680 they show you and they're like, this is how you're 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.880 supposed to play the game. So this guy's blocking right here, 0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.080 this guy's giving up from the field, like they point 0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.480 out those type of things and the players know, you 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:46.520 know what I'm saying. The fans may not know. 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:51.000 And Brady Brady did that with guys. Yeah you can 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.320 tell that, Yeah, he's a fan of the game. 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.720 He's a fan of the game. Bell Check is too though. 0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.040 I even think that Belichick a draft take a guy 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:00.760 to just I don't know belichickif we just want to 0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:02.160 know what the guy's thinking, you know what I'm saying, 0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:03.760 Like he's like a really like so what do you 0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:05.720 think about this? You know what I mean? Like he 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.320 like Belichick just respects the players too. Like certain guys, 0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.560 he just respects us in the league. And he always 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:12.520 they always always end up there, but they don't, you 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:14.520 know what I'm saying, Like there's a place where sometimes 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.720 good players go to die, you know. But but overall, 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.560 but it's like he you, he respects the way that 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:22.160 you play a game. He probably wants to know how 0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:22.520 you play. 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.800 So what do you think about all the narrative of 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:30.880 how Bill is portrayed to players? You Like, you're you're 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:35.240 saying something completely opposite of basically what everything is been 0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:39.320 coming out about, Like, oh, the TV shows, the this, 0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:42.000 the that they're all saying, this guy, you can't work 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.480 for him. What was your experience being an out? 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:46.160 I just didn't like I just didn't like it there. 0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.560 That was the only thing I like overall, I just 0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:51.760 felt like I didn't fit into the situation. I just 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.960 I feel like I just it was completely different. It's 0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.960 like it's like I just came from like like a 0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:00.840 very free spirited place, like like like all like having 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:02.680 to wear knee braces at practice. I'm like, I ain't 0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.280 never do nothing like that, you know what I'm saying, 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.800 Like like it's just stuff that like like even like 0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:09.160 I had I was like playing for Bill Belichick, like 0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.480 you know, going to the meetings and doing everything. I 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:13.439 ain't like my position coach because he didn't know nothing 0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:15.760 about defense, you know what I'm saying, like defensive ends 0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:18.600 or nothing like that. You know. So, But overall, my 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.160 experience with the Patriots was a good experience. Like I said, 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.960 I just wasn't used to like living in the country 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.040 and all that type of shit, like people don't know, man, 0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:28.680 like playing for New England, bro, Like you like through 0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:31.600 y'all lived in Boston, but everything else around New England 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.440 is like, oh my god, where am I? Like I 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:37.919 never ain't nowhere to eat. I'm just like this, I'm 0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:40.200 like where am I? But I don't know. I feel 0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:41.960 like I was in Pleasantville or something. Man, I was 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:43.920 just like, bro, what. 0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:45.720 Made Pete Carroll more free spirited? 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.720 Well, Pete, I just also people. I just like Pete 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.080 didn't really like bother us that much about certain things, 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:52.240 you know what I'm saying. It was just like you 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.960 do your job, come to work. It was more like 0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:58.680 team type thing and like and every time I ever 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:00.840 been on the defensive line was most like one of 1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:04.280 the most important parts of the team, the best. Yeah, 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:06.640 so like whatever, it's like that. Like in New England, 1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:09.960 I feel like it's more about the secondary and the linebackers, 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:11.920 you know what I'm saying, Like if you're a linebacker, 1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:15.240 like you outside linebacker, you got more opportunities than a 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.000 front defensive lineman, like a three four defensive lineman. But 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:19.600 I do think if I could have went to New England, 1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:22.680 like starting off, then I would would have been completely different. 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:24.640 I think I would have like fitting way more because 1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:26.520 that would have been the system that I know, and 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:28.840 I feel like with Bill Belichick and my skill set, 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:31.040 I would have I could have been really good in 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:33.400 that system. But where I was at, like just coming 1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:36.760 from Philly, like it was more like, well, lineup wide 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:38.800 and just just go, just go, you know what, I'm 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:40.880 saying there was never nothing about the plays. I like 1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:42.600 the plays that was called. Like, I just like, it's 1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:45.400 like the team. The teammates in New England, I were 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.760 super great, you know, all the guys that were super 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.040 fun they had hang out with. It was just always 1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:51.880 fun in the locker room. But I was just like 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:53.440 the team was completely different. 1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:55.959 Yeah, it's it's a different place to play. 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:58.439 It's completely different. Reminds me of like a college town 1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:01.280 kind of like like we play at one o'clock and 1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:04.919 it's like very you know, Corn on the cop type ship, 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:09.280 you know what, Like what's going on? Corn? The whole 1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:11.760 town shuts down. It's just like, but. 1:01:13.360 --> 1:01:17.000 Were the practices different? Because I felt like he practicedes hard. 1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:21.000 He did practice as hard in this situation, completely different 1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:24.480 because I also too didn't like like I got hurt 1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:26.960 in New England, like at the at the beginning of 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:31.640 the training camp and like I broke my collarbone. So 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.280 I basically was there and that's the part it was too. Why. 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:36.280 I was also just like, man, like they want me 1:01:36.320 --> 1:01:37.880 to play three four and I can't even lift my 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:40.640 fucking right arm, like it was my left arm. I'll 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:42.120 be like, Okay, you know what I'm saying, But not 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:44.720 my right arm, like it's the one that I actually need. 1:01:44.840 --> 1:01:46.200 The left one I could have did without, you know 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:48.480 what I'm saying. I could have made it work. But 1:01:48.520 --> 1:01:50.120 it was like the right one, like my collar ball 1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:52.920 is still sticking out right there. Yeah, it was like 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:55.160 it was just like it was just gone. You know, 1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:56.920 I couldn't lift my arm up there. 1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:03.080 Shoulders you can't. You can't catch and. 1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:05.320 Trying to hold up another lineman at three four, like. 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:10.560 At twenty rounds, and that guy's a force. Like the shoulder. 1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:13.200 I remember, shoulders are always go with the big boys 1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:15.919 because they're sitting in there, locking in. There's so much 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:18.760 goddamn pressure in between both three hundred and three hundred 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:22.560 pounds or two whatever, like if a guy loses his shoulder, 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:24.560 they were limemen were done. 1:02:24.720 --> 1:02:30.000 Yeah, And then I remember I didn't cuss the coach out, 1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:34.760 but I said something that was it sounded like I 1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:36.480 was cursing him out, but I didn't curse him out. 1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:37.640 Yeah, you're loud. 1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:40.560 I said a curse word, but the way I said it, 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:44.040 he took it the wrong way. But I remember Bill 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:47.600 being calling me and he was like, hey, Michael Ken, 1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:49.920 have you doing that? Look, I want you to come in, 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:52.640 but yeah, it's not it's just in a you're looking 1:02:52.640 --> 1:02:56.080 in the handbook pays three thirty eight point nine. You 1:02:56.120 --> 1:02:57.919 can't do that. I'm like, let me look at thirty 1:02:57.960 --> 1:02:59.840 eight point nine. Yeah, he says, they can't do that. 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:02.200 I'm gonna have to find you and you're gonna have 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:04.920 to stay home this week. See you on Monday, get 1:03:04.960 --> 1:03:06.520 some rest and be ready to go when you come back. 1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:10.640 I'm like, man, Bill, that's not that's not how that's 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:11.480 that's exactly. 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:15.360 He brought out the number and everything. Yes, chapter six thirty. 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:18.160 Yeah. I remember when I came to New England. I 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:19.800 was like, man, I was like, man, I want a 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:21.800 couple more million or whatever. And then Bill was like, 1:03:22.040 --> 1:03:24.000 well tell me why you need more? And I was 1:03:24.040 --> 1:03:26.000 like this this this thing. He's like, Okay, let me 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:27.360 think about it. You know what I'm saying. But he's 1:03:27.400 --> 1:03:29.480 literally like a type of person that if you give 1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:31.760 him like he's really a numbers person, you know what 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:34.040 I mean. Like it really comes down to like what 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.320 you're doing, how you doing it? Why are you coming through? 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:38.920 Like any kind of like going into this office is 1:03:39.000 --> 1:03:40.560 like you know, you learn a lot even being at 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:43.440 the Patriots meeting, like they never really like in Seattle, 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:45.920 they never really called out like Rustle on certain things, 1:03:45.960 --> 1:03:48.800 but like you know, like but Bill will call tell 1:03:48.840 --> 1:03:51.120 him out on everything. How's a guy who's been the 1:03:51.200 --> 1:03:56.520 MVP four times, it's won the championship six times, throw 1:03:56.600 --> 1:04:00.200 this fucking route right here. It's like it's like you've 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:03.480 seen it before. Tom. It was like you're just back there, 1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:05.560 like Dad, he's going off with Tom Brady right now. 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:07.560 Let you know, everyone's own limits. 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:11.520 Yeah, And I remember the first meeting in preseason and 1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:16.439 h o OTAs or something, and Bill came in there 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:19.400 and he had like the little paper and he like 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:21.360 dropped and it was like one of those things where 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:23.080 it was like I think he was just sitting the 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:25.400 stage to tell everybody, if you questioned me, shut the 1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:29.000 fuck up, but basically because he was like, here's my credentials. 1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:32.040 Basically it was like seven times, like it was just 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:34.720 going down the rids, like twenty two, twenty years of 1:04:34.760 --> 1:04:37.200 winning the end of this like seventeen deep. You remember, 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:38.760 it was like it was like all the stats of 1:04:38.920 --> 1:04:40.800 all the things and you were like it's like so 1:04:40.880 --> 1:04:42.600 I know what I'm talking about. I was like, yeah, 1:04:42.600 --> 1:04:46.360 he does. You're like that that's it right there, he right, 1:04:46.440 --> 1:04:49.520 he know. Hey, we listened to him. So like I 1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:50.960 had a good time there, but like I said, I 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:53.280 just didn't fit into the defense at the time because 1:04:53.280 --> 1:04:54.120 it was kind of changing. 1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:58.360 Yeah, we love I love David in there because I 1:04:58.440 --> 1:05:01.400 was real close to Marty and you were kind of 1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:03.400 like a little Marty issue. Yeah, but I didn't get 1:05:03.440 --> 1:05:05.680 to see an everyday meeting. But I'd always jive with 1:05:05.720 --> 1:05:08.840 you in the locker room because we know he's you know, 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:12.200 defense offense. We're kind of different teams. But Bill would 1:05:12.240 --> 1:05:14.960 address the team for fifty minutes forty five minutes every morning, 1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:17.400 the whole team, Yeah, which is probably different than anywhere 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:21.800 you have been in either. Yeah, like he break down offense, defense, 1:05:21.960 --> 1:05:25.280 special teams in front of everyone, so everyone heard the 1:05:25.360 --> 1:05:29.000 lashings of everyone else. Yeah, just so like when you're 1:05:29.040 --> 1:05:30.240 walking down the hall. 1:05:30.440 --> 1:05:31.960 Everybody got it, you know what I'm saying. It was 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:35.360 just like like, yeah, you knew, like that meeting there 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:39.560 was really cool and so I enjoyed myself there that 1:05:39.680 --> 1:05:41.360 we were nine in one of the last ten games. 1:05:41.480 --> 1:05:43.280 Let's get down to the Seattle Sea Crazy. 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:45.680 Let's get into these Seahawks twelve and four. 1:05:46.040 --> 1:05:50.640 Pete Carroll, dan Quinn led defense, Darryl Bevell coaching the offense. 1:05:50.920 --> 1:05:53.120 Is the fifth year of the Pete Carroll regime. We 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:55.680 know about the league in the Boom they're looking to repeat. 1:05:55.920 --> 1:05:58.200 Started three and three and then it's like Michael said, 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:01.960 finished nine and one. They were hot, beat Green Bay 1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:03.000 in the first game of the season. 1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:03.280 There. 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:06.480 Uh, that will a little foreshadowing for this matchup year 1:06:06.800 --> 1:06:09.160 repeaters NFC West Champs. Let's get in on some of 1:06:09.200 --> 1:06:13.080 these guys, Russell Wilson, Beast Moode, Marshawn Lynch, Thug Bald, 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:17.320 when Jermaine Curse, Chris Matthews who got hot around this 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:19.560 time of the year. And then the defense, we know 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:23.200 the defense maybe curse of course, Cliff Averroll, Michael Bennett, 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:27.920 Bruce Irv and Bobby Wagner, kJ Right, Cam Chancellor. This 1:06:28.120 --> 1:06:32.640 was stacked Earl Thomas, Earl Tom. 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.560 Now is the Legion of Boom just the secondary or 1:06:35.600 --> 1:06:36.320 is it the whole thing? 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:38.480 I think it's the whole defense, But it depends on 1:06:38.560 --> 1:06:40.160 you asked right. I think the Legion of Boom kind 1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:43.360 of started with their before I got there, kind of, 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:45.640 and I think it became a lot better once me 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:50.000 and Cliff and te Matt got there. Yeah, but I 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:51.920 think it was considered the whole defense I think, I 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:54.000 mean depends that you asked, right. I mean, they do 1:06:54.040 --> 1:06:58.560 have a little offense a restaurant called Legions Sherman Cam. 1:06:58.800 --> 1:07:01.480 It's pretty good. They got gumba. I didn't like any 1:07:01.520 --> 1:07:04.440 place that got gumbo. Honestly, that's a sign for me 1:07:04.480 --> 1:07:06.280 to be like, yeah, that's rest. 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:11.680 He's from Louisiana. Never had gumbo. You never had gumbo 1:07:11.760 --> 1:07:13.280 until I went to like Ohio, and. 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:15.360 Like Ohio, that's not the place to get it, I know. 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:18.400 But that like all our coaches are from the South, 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:20.440 you know what I mean, So like anytime you go 1:07:20.480 --> 1:07:23.000 anywhere for the first I was a California kid, then 1:07:23.040 --> 1:07:25.280 you go anywhere else. All coaches are from the South. 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:28.160 So like we always had like you know, the catering 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:31.439 food would be like gumbo and barbecue, and I never 1:07:31.440 --> 1:07:34.960 really had it, never had grits. Before college. We're oatmeal. 1:07:35.040 --> 1:07:48.600 People went on the cap, you know. No, I would 1:07:48.640 --> 1:07:51.360 say the strength of the team, like when we were 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:54.520 preparing for Seattle and the Super Bowl the next or 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:56.560 a few weeks later. The next week, it was it 1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:59.080 all came down to the defensive line because they could 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:03.000 get pressure with four guys, and then everyone else was 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.520 on a string, and everyone did their responsibility, so damn good. 1:08:06.920 --> 1:08:08.920 But they did what you guys did what you do. 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:12.640 You didn't change for really nobody, you know. That's kind 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:15.880 of that was the thing about dan Quinn and his defenses. 1:08:15.960 --> 1:08:19.160 They do what they do. Everyone's gonna play on a string. 1:08:19.360 --> 1:08:22.200 They're gonna get pressure with four and so the legion, 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:25.080 the boom to me has to be associated with the defense, 1:08:25.160 --> 1:08:27.599 defensive line, the front box has to be in there. Yeah, 1:08:28.360 --> 1:08:31.479 because it's such a you guys played such team defense 1:08:31.520 --> 1:08:35.320 and everyone swarmed. Everyone was super unselfish. If it was 1:08:35.360 --> 1:08:37.760 a screen like you watched the plays when I caught 1:08:37.800 --> 1:08:40.439 a screen or something, fucking Bennett would be there, the 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:44.200 defensive lineman would be there. They would all swarm. Nothing 1:08:44.320 --> 1:08:46.559 was more. You'd always hear Bill would throw on a 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:50.639 tape of Pete Carroll saying ball, everyone after the ball, 1:08:50.760 --> 1:08:51.599 or say. 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:54.160 Shit like yeah, the ball, ball, all that matters is 1:08:54.200 --> 1:08:54.479 the ball. 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:59.720 So like we knew going into him, that this defense 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:03.320 they swarm, They're gonna get pressure with four and then 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:06.760 the secondary they had, you know, shirm back there. Cam 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:10.320 Earl Thomas was a fucking torpedo and like you guys 1:09:10.360 --> 1:09:12.240 just play. You guys were insane. 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:15.840 Yeah, we were super fast too, like fast swarm That's 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:18.479 what it was like. Everybody was like everyone was fast. Everybody, 1:09:18.560 --> 1:09:20.200 Like I think the slowest person ran like a four 1:09:20.240 --> 1:09:22.960 to six. You know what I'm saying. Like yeah, like defense, 1:09:23.040 --> 1:09:25.400 so it was like a super fast defense. So everybody 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:28.800 was like spreading the whole time and like and I 1:09:28.880 --> 1:09:31.439 just remember like being on that defense and like we 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:33.880 would make so many plays and like on screen games, 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:37.160 returns in general just had so many turnovers just because, 1:09:37.479 --> 1:09:39.400 like you said, we stayed to who we were regardless 1:09:39.439 --> 1:09:41.400 of who we were playing. Were like, look, we're gonna 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:42.320 make them beat us. 1:09:42.479 --> 1:09:44.760 Now, how do you sum up this team? This is 1:09:45.000 --> 1:09:47.200 just grit again, Yeah. 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:51.080 I think this team was there was a versatility and grit. 1:09:51.120 --> 1:09:53.040 I think there was a lot of versatility that season, 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:58.120 just like people being moved in and out and just 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:00.920 like we lost some good guys that prior season, like 1:10:01.240 --> 1:10:02.920 like brend and me Bank got hurt in it during 1:10:02.960 --> 1:10:04.599 the year, Like that kind of changed a little thing. 1:10:04.640 --> 1:10:06.640 But we also had Kevin Williams when she was a 1:10:06.640 --> 1:10:08.960 Hall of Famer and we was with the Vikings, so 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:12.400 it's like we have some really really good guys. But yeah, 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:14.040 I think Grit too. I think Grit was his team 1:10:14.080 --> 1:10:16.240 because we just lost. It came off the Super Bowl 1:10:16.240 --> 1:10:18.479 and the whole idea was like, how do you go 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:20.280 back when you win a Super Bowl? You know, it's 1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:24.760 like it's a feeling, but it's not like it's just 1:10:24.800 --> 1:10:27.160 a day. You know what I'm saying it again, It's 1:10:27.200 --> 1:10:28.880 just like you wake up and do it. It's like 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:32.080 it's now an eternal thing. It's like it's like you 1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:34.599 you happy for like ten minutes and then like they're 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:36.679 trying to see who's going to win it. It's a business, 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:36.960 you know. 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:40.559 Like the highs aren't as high as you think they're 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:42.479 going to be, but the lows are lower than what 1:10:42.520 --> 1:10:43.360 you think they're going to be. 1:10:43.479 --> 1:10:44.519 Yeah, that's true. 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:47.559 You know, like because when you go out and win 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:50.000 a Super Bowl, it becomes so much harder the next 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:53.200 year that you have to work almost you have to 1:10:53.240 --> 1:10:56.559 work harder than you did the year before to maintain 1:10:56.640 --> 1:10:58.840 it to get there, and I never got I never 1:10:58.880 --> 1:11:02.720 went back to back, Like because you become America's most 1:11:02.800 --> 1:11:07.360 number one target. You're on that billboard. Anytime you play 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:10.400 a team, they're circling you because you're a measuring stick. 1:11:10.960 --> 1:11:12.880 And it's just becomes so much harder. And then there's 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.000 a whole year of film of what you're you were 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:17.840 great at that teams are combating. 1:11:18.479 --> 1:11:20.760 So that's what makes Patrick Mahomes really great because it's 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:22.680 like every year this guy's in the super Bowl, even 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:25.000 if he doesn't win it, I'm like, he's back, you guys, 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:26.639 you know, like that's crazy. 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:27.599 Yeah, it is. 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:28.800 It is. 1:11:28.840 --> 1:11:32.960 Now, can you describe the atmosphere and Centuryle Like I 1:11:33.040 --> 1:11:35.120 played there once and it was so freaking loud, Like 1:11:35.120 --> 1:11:36.439 how do you guys get those people out? 1:11:36.479 --> 1:11:40.559 Man? Those people they're so crazy. Man, Like we you know, 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:43.400 we couldn't play Future, but when we did, I'm joking, guys, 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.400 a whole rumor, but like we would play like Rick 1:11:45.520 --> 1:11:47.840 Ross the Future, like that stadium when it's reigning, like 1:11:47.880 --> 1:11:49.960 it'll be rocking. It was just so loud. It was 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:52.960 really hard for opposing offenses like to really. 1:11:53.640 --> 1:11:57.000 They lead the league in like offside's penalties by away teams. 1:11:57.080 --> 1:11:58.800 Yeah, for me getting off the ball and there was 1:11:58.880 --> 1:12:00.720 just like it was just like super easy, like it 1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:03.479 was just like you always get that first step because 1:12:03.479 --> 1:12:06.320 it's just like you were just the stateium is so loud. 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:08.360 The way that is also the way there's design too, 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:10.479 Like it's kind of design like this, so the way 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:13.559 that the noise and sonic bounce off of the Sorry, 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:16.200 I'm just going tall, but the design kind. 1:12:16.000 --> 1:12:18.599 Of liked that it closes, it keeps. 1:12:18.360 --> 1:12:20.760 Sounding so like it becomes louder and it may not 1:12:20.800 --> 1:12:23.880 be unlike you know, like the Arrowhead with it pump 1:12:23.920 --> 1:12:26.680 in sound. You know they say they don't, but it's 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:28.080 clearly pumping inside. 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:29.400 Arrowhead or is it I thought it was Indy. 1:12:29.720 --> 1:12:32.080 I think both both. But I think you want to 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:34.280 see that when you like are like when you're doing 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:36.639 commentating and stuff, you see that behind the scenes stuff, 1:12:36.680 --> 1:12:38.559 so you see a lot of the I. 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.880 Mean I heard Indy did no Airs just came out 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:43.720 and said, no, what you're saying, We'd love to have 1:12:43.760 --> 1:12:47.400 you come on the podcast and combat it, but you know, 1:12:47.840 --> 1:12:48.639 we'll see. 1:12:48.920 --> 1:12:50.680 Yeah, I think they do. In my opinion, I think 1:12:50.680 --> 1:12:52.760 they do maybe they don't though I think they do. 1:12:52.880 --> 1:12:55.599 But I know for us it was it was natural. 1:12:55.600 --> 1:12:56.800 It was no bbls. 1:12:57.880 --> 1:12:59.880 You know, when the crowd noise starts skipping, something's up 1:13:00.240 --> 1:13:01.280 when the track skips. 1:13:01.520 --> 1:13:03.800 Speaking of Brazilian butlers, what's up with the pads that 1:13:03.840 --> 1:13:04.200 you wore? 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:07.320 I just I never really liked the shoulder pass thing. 1:13:07.360 --> 1:13:08.599 I feel like if I didn't have to wear them, 1:13:08.640 --> 1:13:09.240 I probably would. 1:13:09.560 --> 1:13:12.479 You barely. You didn't wear shoulders, I know, but the 1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:15.880 shells just shells. Basically you were shells. You didn't get 1:13:15.920 --> 1:13:18.760 a shoulder banged up. You have bad shoulders. 1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:22.679 Just the one time in New England doing goddamn Aggie drill, 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:24.720 that drill we used to do the Oklahoma drill that 1:13:25.200 --> 1:13:28.720 they said it wasn't Oklahoma drill. You know That's what 1:13:28.760 --> 1:13:29.439 I'm talking about. 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:30.639 What is the blocking drill? 1:13:30.720 --> 1:13:33.280 Yeah, it's like this is a routine block drum. I'm like, no, 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:37.519 this is this is Oklahoma drill, Like not supposed to 1:13:37.520 --> 1:13:38.920 be this type of contact right now? 1:13:39.320 --> 1:13:43.680 Did they call it like tould It wasn't Oklahoma, but 1:13:43.720 --> 1:13:48.240 it was. But Tulsa's place in Oklahoma. 1:13:52.360 --> 1:13:54.240 Do you know Tosa is a bad place for black 1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:57.280 people Black Wall Street. They not gonna name me after that, Like, 1:13:58.560 --> 1:14:02.639 but we did that and but no, I just always 1:14:02.680 --> 1:14:04.439 liked to be movement and I had my jersey a 1:14:04.479 --> 1:14:06.840 certain way, so I was it was really good with 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:08.799 my hands, so it didn't really matter about the past 1:14:08.800 --> 1:14:09.160 that much. 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:11.320 It's also better so the offensive line couldn't hold you. 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:13.040 Yeah, And then when I used to hit people, it 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:15.880 was like like I was good at tackle for loss. 1:14:15.880 --> 1:14:17.280 So I used to always hit the running back before 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:19.040 he got the ball. Yeah, So it was like more 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:21.120 tackles like quick. Yeah, it was really quick. I never 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:22.920 really heard the like linebacker. Maybe if I was a 1:14:22.960 --> 1:14:25.240 linebacker it would be different. But since I was like 1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:27.559 and also too, I grew up loving the way that 1:14:27.680 --> 1:14:31.719 Justice Smith played the game. He always had like zero 1:14:31.920 --> 1:14:34.200 zero Justice Smith was one of my favorite players growing up. 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:36.920 John Abraham, Oh see like all those guys, the people 1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:37.479 that I looked. 1:14:37.320 --> 1:14:40.640 Up to, Wow, I used to watch. I remember the 1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:43.479 same thing like when I when I became a receiver, 1:14:43.640 --> 1:14:46.080 you'd always want the smallest pads because I didn't want 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:49.080 like when you'd rip and I'm trying to get under 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:51.200 on a speed release, I didn't want him to get 1:14:51.200 --> 1:14:53.479 his shoulder pad or his hand on my shoulder pad. 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:56.439 So the smaller surface here, it's better for you, it is. 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:59.160 This is true, but it was a fine line because 1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:01.360 I get ta that had follow my shoulders. 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:04.200 Yeah, so like it was. 1:15:04.280 --> 1:15:06.519 I would always I remember walking. I was like, is 1:15:06.560 --> 1:15:08.120 he wearing fucking shells out there? 1:15:08.439 --> 1:15:11.120 And my shoulder paths are super small. I enjoyed it, though. 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:12.800 You know, everybody would be like, how did you even 1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:15.240 every game? And they'd be like, like, I don't care 1:15:15.320 --> 1:15:16.479 about to knock somebody out. 1:15:17.720 --> 1:15:18.559 When did that start? 1:15:18.880 --> 1:15:20.560 I started when I was in Tampa. I used to 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:22.479 always cut my shoulder pass and the GM used to 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:23.680 always be like, you can't do that. If you have 1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:26.160 to do that, this waiver did he? Yeah? 1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:26.759 Who was that Jr? 1:15:27.080 --> 1:15:31.360 No? No, it was uh Mark dominant dominant. Justic Smith 1:15:31.400 --> 1:15:32.920 was a dog. I don' understand why just Smith's not 1:15:32.960 --> 1:15:33.800 in the Hall of Fame yet. 1:15:34.040 --> 1:15:35.040 I forgot about him. 1:15:35.040 --> 1:15:35.160 Man. 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:36.160 I was a Niners fan. 1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:37.720 But look, go back to that picture, man, look at 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:40.000 this picture of America, like like this guy's like like 1:15:40.360 --> 1:15:42.160 it's bleeding on his head, Like you don't even see 1:15:42.160 --> 1:15:45.439 people bleed. No more like this in the NFL like 1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:47.400 like this is like that guy's really come out there 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:50.920 to play football, like this new football stuff. Two fingers taped, 1:15:50.960 --> 1:15:53.240 take the round the hands now, guys got it? Like 1:15:53.320 --> 1:15:55.360 I don't know, man, it's like it's not the new 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:58.320 Travis Scott's you know, like it's not hype Beast, you know, 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.120 like you list is the one that Jay Z has 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:03.599 on coys doesn't have any clatch Like that. 1:16:03.560 --> 1:16:05.559 Guy right there, like he looks like he eats cement. 1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:08.559 Yeah, that guy plays football. That's a guy that plays football. 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:10.559 He eat that guy to Those are the guys that I. 1:16:10.520 --> 1:16:13.200 Grew up watching, you know, not everybody's doing oh that 1:16:13.280 --> 1:16:15.120 kind of stuff. That guy don't do that kind of stuff. No, 1:16:15.840 --> 1:16:17.360 he let the kind of guy if he slap you 1:16:17.360 --> 1:16:19.280 in back of your head, your neck might hurt, you know. 1:16:19.400 --> 1:16:24.200 Yeah, he definitely looks like he will slap you in 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:24.920 the back of the head. 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:30.320 Bull ring. He extended bull ring too, Oh my gosh. 1:16:30.360 --> 1:16:33.720 Probably so you could get a finger in there when someone's. 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:38.320 Getting guy bleeding everywhere. Right now, man, come on, I'm 1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:39.280 just saying, all. 1:16:39.240 --> 1:16:41.320 Right, Jackie, let's let's get into the game, all right, 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:43.800 Let's get in a little lead up here. As we 1:16:43.840 --> 1:16:46.519 mentioned earlier's a rematch a week one. Seattle took that 1:16:46.520 --> 1:16:49.880 one thirty six sixteen. UH finished on a six game 1:16:49.920 --> 1:16:53.160 win streak. Green Bay, on the other hand, finished winning 1:16:53.200 --> 1:16:56.040 seven of their last eight. Seattle was the number one seed, 1:16:56.080 --> 1:16:58.599 got that first round by beat Carolina in the division 1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:02.120 round thirty one seventeen. Green Bay number two seed first 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:04.840 run by also beat Dallas in the division round. 1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:07.960 That was a notable game. That was the des catch game. 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:09.479 Remember that was to catch cat. 1:17:09.720 --> 1:17:11.280 I think it was a catch. I think you know 1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:11.479 what the. 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:14.000 Catch is anymore, it's hard to find. 1:17:14.040 --> 1:17:16.479 I think that that was his that's his only time 1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:19.479 that that he's able to get to get to the 1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:20.519 super Bowl. I thought that. 1:17:20.560 --> 1:17:22.000 Was that was I feel like Jerry. 1:17:22.000 --> 1:17:23.800 I feel like Jerry Jones has done so much stuff 1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:26.120 that like God is like when you die, you win 1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:27.960 the super Bowl, but you can enjoy it up here 1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:30.280 with me. You won't get to enjoyed on earth because 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:31.679 you enjoyed too much stuff on earth. 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:35.120 He I mean, he got bots, got a lot of stuff. 1:17:35.320 --> 1:17:37.200 Because it doesn't make sense amount of money that they 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:41.559 put into Dallas at this moment not to have won something. 1:17:42.600 --> 1:17:46.240 It's and that year was a great year. DeMarco Murray, Beast, 1:17:46.760 --> 1:17:49.760 Tony Romo, the office on line was stacked. Defense is 1:17:49.760 --> 1:17:50.320 pretty good. 1:17:50.680 --> 1:17:54.280 But is that the Romo flub snap game? 1:17:54.600 --> 1:17:54.800 No? 1:17:54.880 --> 1:17:56.519 That was that was next year. 1:17:56.880 --> 1:18:00.559 That was like, yeah, that's what that was in Seattle. 1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:02.040 That was crazy. 1:18:02.120 --> 1:18:04.600 But uh and then another way to Aaron Rodgers, the 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:06.120 calf was a little banged up in this one. 1:18:06.560 --> 1:18:12.200 So uh need some building excuses coming into it. 1:18:12.840 --> 1:18:15.719 Now, how you how do you guys get hot? Would 1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:18.800 you guys change up? You guys just recalibrating focus after 1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:20.920 having a little Super Bowl hangover, a little. 1:18:20.720 --> 1:18:22.280 Hango right there. We just had a team meeting and it 1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:23.840 was like what we gonna do? Man? 1:18:24.040 --> 1:18:27.360 You know here now who leads that team meeting? Is 1:18:27.400 --> 1:18:28.240 it Russell Wilson? 1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:34.320 No? What Camp Tresco was like the more of the 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:36.680 heart of the team. Yeah, like can you see that? 1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:39.479 Cam Treensl was like the guy that like he's not 1:18:39.479 --> 1:18:41.439 gonna say a lot of stuff, but like when you 1:18:41.479 --> 1:18:44.840 start to say stuff, because Earl Thomas doesn't really talk 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:46.240 that much, you know what I'm saying, He's just kind 1:18:46.240 --> 1:18:47.960 of like more chilling with his One of his big 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:51.160 roads raices outside, you know, really come to practice. Yeah, 1:18:51.360 --> 1:18:53.600 and then Cam is like the guy that's like he 1:18:53.680 --> 1:18:55.640 says something. He's kind of charm as a talker. But 1:18:55.680 --> 1:18:58.439 then Cam's like the enforcer, right, So Cam was the 1:18:58.439 --> 1:19:00.000 guy kind of like that pulled the team to get 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:02.720 at that moment because he cares so much about the game. Like, 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:04.759 I don't think people will realize how he didn't. 1:19:04.600 --> 1:19:05.320 Swear much, did he? 1:19:05.439 --> 1:19:05.719 No? 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:08.599 No, Yeah, I remember. I always tell a story about 1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:11.640 when the first block, I would always go in and 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:14.080 block the force and I would lay the ham on him. 1:19:14.080 --> 1:19:16.800 I would fucking I was short. I wasn't small. I 1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:18.880 was still one hundred and eighty eight pounds. So I 1:19:18.880 --> 1:19:20.280 could go in and I could light a guy up 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:22.240 to let him know the first play, we're gonna be 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:22.800 here all day. 1:19:22.920 --> 1:19:23.360 Yeah. 1:19:23.560 --> 1:19:26.719 I did that to fucking Cam Chancellor, and I got woozy. 1:19:27.240 --> 1:19:29.719 He like knocked me out damn near first play the game, 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:33.920 and he felt like he was rooted like a tree. 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.200 He's a big guy, man, I don't think he's just strong. 1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:37.960 He wasn't even looking at me. He just gave me 1:19:37.960 --> 1:19:39.439 an arm and I went in and try to give 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:41.799 him helmet to helmet because that's what you do is blockers. 1:19:41.840 --> 1:19:44.160 You know, you want to give a little kiss. And 1:19:44.280 --> 1:19:46.360 he fucking lit me up and he knew I was 1:19:46.360 --> 1:19:47.760 a little jacked up. He says, it's gonna be a 1:19:47.800 --> 1:19:49.240 long day, young fella, or something like that. 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:50.599 It's kind of it's kind of a lone those things 1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:52.639 like like Cam new is the same way right right, 1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:54.760 Like people don't realize how big Cam Newton was. Him 1:19:54.880 --> 1:19:57.000 is huge. Yeah, Like there's some people that are just 1:19:57.080 --> 1:20:00.599 like genetic freaks, you know. And yeah, so you know, 1:20:00.760 --> 1:20:02.479 Cam came in here and we had the team meeting 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:05.080 and kind of got it together, kind of bring everybody 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:07.240 together because you're like, you know, people start fingerporn. Who's 1:20:07.240 --> 1:20:09.000 the success, who's not the success? No, we win because 1:20:09.000 --> 1:20:12.080 I mean now we winning because each other. It's a balance, 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:14.000 like yeah, we're a great defense. But if they don't 1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:16.360 score points, I mean, I mean, we just need you 1:20:16.479 --> 1:20:17.920 to score like six points, you know what I'm saying, 1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:19.479 Like we can we can hold them to three, you 1:20:19.479 --> 1:20:22.599 know what I mean. Like but if like the whole 1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:25.679 point is that we needed to get them to come 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:28.840 together and like with Earl, me with Cam and the 1:20:28.880 --> 1:20:31.240 defense coming together in offense, and just coom Bay. Yeah. 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:33.559 And then Doug Baldman was a really good leader too. 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:36.800 Yeah, So Doug was I always respected baldwin Man. I 1:20:36.800 --> 1:20:38.840 thought he was. He always made big plays when the 1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:41.560 team needed it. He always you know, like you guys, 1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:46.120 a black version of you he could be. He was tough, 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:47.320 He blocked hard. 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.679 He's a black version of you, is he? Yeah? 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:52.559 How is he? Is he the same size? 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:53.760 Yeah? Yeah, by the same size. 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:56.120 He was good, I'll take it. He scored some touchdowns 1:20:56.120 --> 1:20:58.880 and some Super Bowls now. 1:20:58.880 --> 1:21:00.760 But Doug, Doug is super a player, and he was 1:21:00.800 --> 1:21:03.800 tough and and he would like do the things like 1:21:03.840 --> 1:21:06.439 you said, like the block, and he respected every part 1:21:06.439 --> 1:21:07.800 of the game. He was a student of the game. 1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:12.640 And I think with Doug and Cam like coming in 1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:14.400 that kind of changed the whole thing, is like. 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:18.000 You know, yeah, and so when this game was so 1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:21.760 I remember specifically, I was getting ready for the game 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:23.919 and they delayed our game because you guys went overtime. 1:21:24.760 --> 1:21:27.120 It's like, what the fuck is going on? It's national football, 1:21:27.120 --> 1:21:31.160 he's multi billion dollar corporation. What do we Why are 1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:32.880 we postponing a goddamn game? 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:37.840 Oh? Because they want everybody to watch out the next one. 1:21:37.960 --> 1:21:39.479 If you want to watch this one. We're moving that 1:21:39.520 --> 1:21:40.679 one back. We own this ship. 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:43.680 And so I go into the equipment room and it 1:21:43.760 --> 1:21:46.040 was right when the on site kick happened. I'm like, 1:21:46.160 --> 1:21:49.519 no fucking way, Like I didn't. I didn't realize until 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:51.760 I started doing I mean, I remember back in the day. 1:21:52.439 --> 1:21:54.759 This is ten years ago now, but I didn't really 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:58.080 I forgot how fucking crazy of a game this was. 1:21:58.600 --> 1:22:00.080 Yeah, it was crazy because. 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:03.439 You guys had two goal line stops in the first 1:22:03.560 --> 1:22:05.720 quarter off of a pick and off of a what 1:22:05.800 --> 1:22:09.519 a kickoff return fumble? Yep, And like I'm sitting here like, 1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:12.400 how the fuck did this team win? And then we 1:22:12.479 --> 1:22:14.760 get back and we'll get into the game, but like 1:22:15.040 --> 1:22:18.400 I remember specifically, I'm sitting here like on site kick, Wow, 1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:20.200 there's no way there getting and you guys got it. 1:22:20.240 --> 1:22:21.880 And then that's right when we had to go out. 1:22:22.560 --> 1:22:24.479 And so it was crazy. 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:26.240 Because I think we only gave a one touchdown. 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:31.480 No, yeah, one touchdown. It was the the touchdown. 1:22:31.120 --> 1:22:35.360 Yeah, and I think I jumped outside. But so we 1:22:35.439 --> 1:22:36.840 still won. But at the end of the day, that 1:22:36.880 --> 1:22:39.560 was a hard game because Russell threw so many interceptions. 1:22:39.560 --> 1:22:42.800 It was just like rus, come on, bro, like not 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:46.080 three against this team. And that kind of happened the year. 1:22:46.080 --> 1:22:48.920 The next year we lost against y'all, but we had 1:22:48.960 --> 1:22:51.120 a kind of beat up season, but we still was 1:22:51.160 --> 1:22:54.800 able to like put it together. We beat the lines 1:22:54.840 --> 1:22:58.679 and then we went down to Carolina and that's when Carolina, 1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:01.720 that's when Kim New was at his this. We could 1:23:01.760 --> 1:23:03.519 have won that game too, but rustled through so many 1:23:03.520 --> 1:23:06.280 interceptions that game, and like it was just like, bro, 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:09.120 like we can. God only gives us this every once 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:11.439 in a while, you know, like do what you do 1:23:11.479 --> 1:23:13.800 with the thing, you know. But that game was just 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:15.519 a challenging game because on defense, it was like we 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:17.439 had to keep going stop. But like that was the 1:23:17.439 --> 1:23:19.479 first game that like when I was on defense that 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:21.559 when they threw an interception, it wasn't people going like 1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:24.639 it was like all right, all right, like like let's 1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:26.360 go like like how we're gonna do this, Like it 1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:28.479 ain't gonna be us, you know what I'm saying, gonna 1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:30.200 be They're not gonna give up nothing on us today. 1:23:30.240 --> 1:23:32.599 So that's how we went out there every single time, 1:23:32.720 --> 1:23:34.200 was like look, were about to go out here and 1:23:34.200 --> 1:23:37.600 stop them, stop them again, stopped them again, Like you know, 1:23:37.680 --> 1:23:39.800 even in that that fourth quarter, like those stops that 1:23:39.840 --> 1:23:41.439 we made to get the ball back, those are a 1:23:41.439 --> 1:23:43.559 hard stop because they try to run the clock out, 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:46.840 you know what I mean. That's the part that it's 1:23:46.840 --> 1:23:48.639 hard than two minutes a lot of times because it's 1:23:48.640 --> 1:23:51.160 like they got so that was a really hard game. 1:23:51.200 --> 1:23:54.799 Because what goes into a goal line stand like what 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:57.680 what what do you have to do to stop an 1:23:57.680 --> 1:24:00.639 offense from running the like when what is it? Defensive 1:24:00.640 --> 1:24:02.320 line has to have penetrate? What is it? 1:24:02.360 --> 1:24:05.240 Penetration? Penetration kills all runs if you know that, especially 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:07.439 on stretch plays anytime you get it. That's why three 1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:10.839 techniques are so important in certain schemes because three technique 1:24:10.880 --> 1:24:13.240 is kind of the pillar to getting the defense going. 1:24:13.400 --> 1:24:15.000 And what's the three technique? 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:18.400 Three technique is the one that lines up on the guard. 1:24:18.600 --> 1:24:19.920 One that lines up on the guard. 1:24:20.000 --> 1:24:22.160 For you listeners, Yeah, he could be a two eye, 1:24:22.160 --> 1:24:24.559 he could be a three depending on the shade of it. 1:24:24.640 --> 1:24:26.600 But most of the time you have people like the 1:24:26.640 --> 1:24:28.040 people that you know, they're in the Hall of Fame, 1:24:28.080 --> 1:24:30.080 they mostly all were three techniques. You know what I'm saying, 1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:31.920 because they're the ones that get the sacks, they're the 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:33.680 ones that get off the ball. Like I was a 1:24:33.680 --> 1:24:37.400 three technique and a defensive man, so those a hard 1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:40.439 place to play. But we in this game, it was 1:24:40.479 --> 1:24:42.559 just like getting the penetration and stop them from being 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:44.920 able to move forward on the run. With a guy 1:24:44.960 --> 1:24:46.519 like Eddie Lacy, that means you got to have a 1:24:46.560 --> 1:24:48.759 lot of people. He's not the first person is probably 1:24:48.760 --> 1:24:50.800 not gonna take him down, so everybody has to be 1:24:50.800 --> 1:24:52.640 able to swarm. Swarm, so we have to swarm a 1:24:52.640 --> 1:24:54.400 lot to be able to do that. 1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:57.599 How was it playing under quinn man dan Quinn? 1:24:57.600 --> 1:24:59.000 I still talk to dan Quinn a lot. I feel 1:24:59.000 --> 1:25:01.360 like dan Quinn was one of the defensive courtner that 1:25:01.439 --> 1:25:03.840 has ever had a chance to play with because he 1:25:04.040 --> 1:25:07.000 just knew the game and he just would teach you 1:25:07.040 --> 1:25:09.240 and he wouldn't settle for anything. If you notice, like 1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:11.880 almost every team he goes to, the defensive defense is 1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:14.280 pretty good, and he defensive line is his favorite, you 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:16.559 know what I'm saying, So like you never gonna see 1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:18.920 him with not a stacked defensive line, Like look at 1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:20.719 the defensive line of the Commanders. They had a stack 1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:21.439 defensive line. 1:25:21.479 --> 1:25:23.559 Yeah, you know what they were selling a bunch of guys. 1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:24.320 He's developing guys. 1:25:24.520 --> 1:25:26.360 He's developing guys. But still they had the two D 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:30.240 tackles that were he loves D tackles, so like looking 1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:34.000 at the Cowboys, look at the Falcons like always, you know, 1:25:34.120 --> 1:25:36.320 but sometimes it's cracks in the defense if you don't 1:25:36.520 --> 1:25:39.520 come back. You know, He's been a part of the 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:44.519 two worst comebacks and the NFL, but still still great defense. 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:46.639 Court, I mean, you still got to get there. And 1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:48.559 he's he's taking the team to the super Bowl and 1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:52.760 he's got a young quarterback and Jayden Daniels that's looking 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:55.240 really damn good. He's got a good situation. The only 1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:58.080 thing I get scared of dan Quinn it's the same 1:25:58.080 --> 1:26:03.240 thing that happened Atlanta when Kyle Shanahan leaves. How's he 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:03.880 going to react? 1:26:03.960 --> 1:26:05.479 Oh, he's a great p knows how. 1:26:05.520 --> 1:26:08.559 He knows that defense. But once Kyle Shanahan left Atlanta 1:26:08.680 --> 1:26:12.519 wasn't the same. Yeah, but that's Cliff Kingsbury is there 1:26:12.560 --> 1:26:14.640 right now. He's going to develop Jade and Jaden is 1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:17.760 looking great. What if he leaves and gets a head 1:26:17.800 --> 1:26:18.880 coaching job next year. 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:20.640 But then he has to be able to have the 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:23.760 right people behind him too. Yeah, it's hard, though, you 1:26:23.760 --> 1:26:25.360 have good coaches and that's the heart. 1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:27.320 That's what people don't realize. When you win, you lose. 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:29.960 You're losing. You're losing players, and you're losing coaches. You know, 1:26:30.080 --> 1:26:30.719 look at the Chiefs. 1:26:30.720 --> 1:26:32.280 I think that's why it was Name never leaves the 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:33.599 defense coordinator because he's. 1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:35.559 Like Fags, like he's already kind of done that. 1:26:35.640 --> 1:26:37.160 It's like, this is a good situation. I don't have 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:38.519 to you know what I'm saying, Like, I get to 1:26:38.560 --> 1:26:40.200 worry about defense and I know we're gonna win. 1:26:40.640 --> 1:26:42.919 That was a lot of why we had our success 1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:46.800 because our coaches stayed intact, like the diving Fears. Scar 1:26:46.960 --> 1:26:49.320 was there for a long time, Chatty o'she was there 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:53.519 for eleven years, you know, the belichickair. You know, there's 1:26:53.560 --> 1:26:56.960 a bunch of guys that stayed. We had Maddy p 1:26:57.439 --> 1:26:59.960 and Flow and all those guys. Once they start, you know, 1:27:00.160 --> 1:27:01.519 that's that's a huge part of it. 1:27:01.600 --> 1:27:03.080 Well, a lot of those guys be good coaches. But 1:27:03.120 --> 1:27:04.599 then it's like it's different when you lead your own 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:06.080 team because some of the tactics that. 1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:08.280 Yeah, you can't. You got to learn have you got 1:27:08.320 --> 1:27:10.160 to learn to have be your own figure. Yeah, yeah, 1:27:10.160 --> 1:27:12.519 you can't just go try to be Bill Belichick. 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:15.600 Yeah that's only Yeah, everybody don't. Yeah, it's hard for 1:27:15.640 --> 1:27:16.080 other people. 1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:18.240 Yeah, Jack the game. 1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:22.599 Yeah, So we covered the the intro here. Two picks 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:24.840 in the first five minutes that would be a theme 1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:28.680 for the day, interceptions by both sides. We got a 1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:31.479 green Bay field goal after the first one, one of 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:33.960 those first defensive stands on the goal line that we 1:27:34.040 --> 1:27:37.519 talked about. Then the Doug Baldwin fumbling the kickoff another 1:27:37.640 --> 1:27:40.720 stand on the goal line only resulted in three. Then 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:42.320 at the end of the quarter we got the thirteen 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:45.360 to nothing with the free play Rogers to Cobb, only 1:27:45.400 --> 1:27:46.200 touchdown on the day. 1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:46.719 For green Bay. 1:27:46.960 --> 1:27:50.559 Moving in the second quarter, two more Russell interceptions, a 1:27:50.680 --> 1:27:54.040 Rogers interception, there's a three drives in a row that 1:27:54.080 --> 1:27:58.360 all end in interceptions, and then pick Fest Yeah, Pickfest 1:27:59.000 --> 1:28:02.320 nine seven left, he throws his second one still has 1:28:02.400 --> 1:28:05.439 yet to make a completion. Russ's I mean, we got 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:06.720 three picks and no completions. 1:28:06.760 --> 1:28:09.599 Crazy in the first half. In the first half, how 1:28:09.600 --> 1:28:12.920 do first off, what's Pete Carroll's halftime like, and then 1:28:13.000 --> 1:28:15.559 what's halftime of this game with defense? 1:28:15.680 --> 1:28:19.840 Like Pete Carrol's like, so we're gonna do. We'll play 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:24.160 good defense, We'll get a Bottimore shank and Russell just 1:28:24.160 --> 1:28:26.760 complete some passes. We're gonna win, all right, guys, we 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:28.000 can go out there and win. We can go out 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:30.160 there and win if we play good defense and get 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:32.439 a Baltimore shank and we just played the game. All right, guys, 1:28:32.600 --> 1:28:34.160 we're not really down by much. Let's go out there 1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:36.760 and it's like, bro sixteen zero? How many? 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:38.559 How many pieces of gum does he go through a game? 1:28:38.920 --> 1:28:42.680 Man? He has a gum guy. Everybody, you're not really 1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:46.680 rich if you don't have a gum guy. And he's 1:28:47.040 --> 1:28:52.120 right hand piece of gum. Yeah, you know he's got 1:28:52.120 --> 1:28:55.080 a monarch guy too. He rocks those monarchs. He loves 1:28:55.080 --> 1:28:57.720 the Nike mind brought Peek Carroll brought those monarchs back. 1:28:57.760 --> 1:29:01.800 He did single handedly something like Kanye, it was Pee, Now, 1:29:01.840 --> 1:29:03.639 what do you what do you guys? 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.280 As a defense? Is Quinn talking to you guys? Are 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:07.679 you guys having a players only. 1:29:07.680 --> 1:29:10.360 We having a player's defensive meeting, Just being like, look, 1:29:10.600 --> 1:29:12.519 coaches don't even need to come in here. This come 1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:15.360 down to us doing executing at the highest level. Look, 1:29:15.400 --> 1:29:17.280 it doesn't matter what Russell does or what it does. 1:29:17.680 --> 1:29:19.720 We don't we gave up some points. The field goal 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:21.080 is still mad at us, you know what I'm saying. 1:29:21.080 --> 1:29:22.519 So at the end of the day, it's like, don't 1:29:22.520 --> 1:29:24.800 even let them get in field. Go position, Like let's 1:29:24.840 --> 1:29:27.320 just keep them back, stop them every opportunity that we get. 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:29.880 Play great defense, you know what I'm saying, And just 1:29:30.360 --> 1:29:32.920 anybody to get the ball, knock them out, you know 1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:35.479 what I'm saying, Like a court get just hit the quarterback, 1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:38.000 make him feel the office in line, no excuses. This 1:29:38.080 --> 1:29:39.920 is the last game of the year. If if you 1:29:39.920 --> 1:29:41.360 don't play this game and you can have a great 1:29:41.360 --> 1:29:42.960 time in Cabo in the week, you know what I'm saying, 1:29:43.040 --> 1:29:47.559 Like this is about going to Arizona. So it's like, look, 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:49.439 I don't care if your show to hurt. I don't 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:51.880 care what you're going through at home. Like you need 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:54.960 to be hyper focused right now, detailed, you know what 1:29:55.000 --> 1:29:57.040 I'm saying, to win this type of game. And I 1:29:57.040 --> 1:29:59.160 think that's what we kind of settled down and did. 1:29:59.400 --> 1:30:01.360 Now what's more Sean doing in the locker room at 1:30:01.360 --> 1:30:01.839 a halftime? 1:30:02.360 --> 1:30:02.840 I don't want to. 1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:08.200 I love he just like, Man, I've been telling you'all 1:30:08.200 --> 1:30:10.479 to give it the ball, man, y'all want to win 1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:16.720 the game, like like what we're doing right now, Like 1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:20.280 y'all stop me from dancing like you know what I'm saying, skittles, 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:20.519 you know. 1:30:20.680 --> 1:30:23.200 Like he's just like he's like I've been telling y'all 1:30:23.280 --> 1:30:25.559 just you know, like what we're doing. What's your best? 1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:29.519 What's your what's your best? Marshaw story man, nothing I 1:30:29.520 --> 1:30:32.320 can sell on camera. Man a lighthearted one. 1:30:32.800 --> 1:30:36.479 The best thing about Marshawn is that each day is real, 1:30:36.560 --> 1:30:39.519 regardless of the situation. You know, he's just whether winner 1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:42.519 or losing, like you get the same person. I think 1:30:42.840 --> 1:30:45.439 that's what I love about Marshawn. He's just a funny 1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:48.200 guy man, Like you know, even in Hawaii, Like he 1:30:48.240 --> 1:30:50.720 comes to Hawaii and then he will have like a 1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:53.920 Turkey drive or whatever. Like Marshaan's type. Person is always 1:30:53.920 --> 1:30:56.760 gonna go to whatever the most improverised people are in 1:30:56.800 --> 1:30:59.720 the world and go there first. He's not gone he 1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:02.719 go to London. He's not gonna go to the buckingheam palace, 1:31:02.720 --> 1:31:05.080 he can go, He's gonna go to London, to the 1:31:05.120 --> 1:31:07.120 East Side or but that's just who he is, right, 1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:09.320 he grew up in that type of area. So it's like, 1:31:09.640 --> 1:31:11.880 that's one thing I say about Marshawn, Like that's just 1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:13.280 the thing I like about him is that he just 1:31:13.360 --> 1:31:14.840 keeps it real like that the whole time. 1:31:15.000 --> 1:31:15.240 Dude. 1:31:15.360 --> 1:31:16.040 I went. 1:31:16.200 --> 1:31:18.559 So, I grew up in the Bay and I had 1:31:18.600 --> 1:31:23.000 a lot of friends that went to Berkeley with with Marshawn. 1:31:23.360 --> 1:31:26.960 And there's just such a funny story where Marshawn was 1:31:27.000 --> 1:31:30.120 coming off of the practice field in his in his 1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:33.519 full get up right and he liked my boy's bike. 1:31:34.240 --> 1:31:37.000 He's like, yo, my boy loved Marshawn because Marshaun was 1:31:37.000 --> 1:31:40.679 a superstar. And so my my boy goes, I'll trade 1:31:40.720 --> 1:31:45.200 you my bike for your helmet, and he goes, fuck it, 1:31:45.760 --> 1:31:47.800 and he goes, I got a sharpie will he signed it. 1:31:48.000 --> 1:31:50.120 He signed it, and my buddy still has to signed 1:31:50.439 --> 1:31:54.240 the Marshawn Lynch hat off for helmet. Could you imagine 1:31:54.240 --> 1:31:56.639 going back to in college, where's your helmet? 1:31:57.120 --> 1:31:57.720 I don't know. 1:31:57.760 --> 1:31:59.280 I got a bike, Like. 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:04.479 Just real, so fucking funny but he was really beast 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:07.320 in that game. That was really real, unreal like the 1:32:07.439 --> 1:32:09.880 runs and the hits and things that like how you 1:32:09.880 --> 1:32:12.240 play the game, you know, like Marshaan like you was 1:32:12.360 --> 1:32:15.920 just at one player. I don't think that the Green 1:32:15.960 --> 1:32:17.639 Bay wanted to tackle him in some of those players 1:32:17.680 --> 1:32:19.160 later on the game, like especially in. 1:32:19.200 --> 1:32:20.880 The third, the fourth runs angry. 1:32:20.960 --> 1:32:23.519 He runs angry the whole time. So he was very 1:32:23.640 --> 1:32:26.000 like he was very instrumental us whinning that game was 1:32:26.080 --> 1:32:28.000 him taking over the game and him getting the ball more. 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:32.080 Now, where does he fit amongst running backs career? 1:32:32.439 --> 1:32:34.280 I would say that he's definitely Hall of Famer Ray. 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:36.760 I think when you think about his time period, of 1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:39.320 the three running backs that were like the focal points 1:32:39.320 --> 1:32:42.040 at that time, which would be Adrian Peterson with Sean 1:32:42.120 --> 1:32:45.759 McCoy and Marshaan Lynch, Like those are the three guys 1:32:45.760 --> 1:32:49.240 if you think about the twenty tens to those are 1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:50.599 the guys that you were here. But there were other 1:32:50.600 --> 1:32:53.040 guys who like do good for the season, but like consistently, 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:55.000 these were the guys that were the most consistent. I 1:32:55.000 --> 1:32:58.839 don't know if I'm leaving somebody out, but so Marshawn 1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:00.599 and his time period was definitely one of the best 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:01.240 running backs. 1:33:01.320 --> 1:33:02.960 I agree, and. 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:05.040 Y'all probably when y'all was watching y'all, he's probably one 1:33:05.040 --> 1:33:06.600 of the key players that y'all talking about, because I 1:33:06.600 --> 1:33:08.080 don't know what are the key players that you guys 1:33:08.120 --> 1:33:09.120 are looking at when you guys are playing. 1:33:09.160 --> 1:33:12.960 We have to stop Marshawan on offense, we are as 1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:15.479 a team, you know, we had to stop Marshawan and 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:18.920 then we had to get vertical against the defense because 1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:23.080 you guys swarmed so much in ball security. That was like, 1:33:23.520 --> 1:33:25.479 those are the three things that I'm just thinking off 1:33:25.520 --> 1:33:28.960 off dome. Yeah, he was a huge I mean, I 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:32.120 loved watching Marshawan and we played him a bunch when 1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:34.559 he was in Buffalo, Yeah, you know what I mean, 1:33:34.600 --> 1:33:36.560 So we we knew what he was about. 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:38.599 And I feel like his game went to another level 1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:39.120 when he got. 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:41.080 To without a doubt, but he was still he was 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:43.920 still franchise. He was he was still running, he was 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:47.840 still a first rounder, yeah, you know, and he just 1:33:47.880 --> 1:33:50.559 made crazy plays. He's always I wish I got to 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:53.400 play with Marshawn. He seems like a fucking awesome teammates, 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:54.840 you know what I mean, Like he. 1:33:54.800 --> 1:33:56.960 Shows up to all the kids' birthday parties, all the 1:33:57.000 --> 1:33:57.559 things he's. 1:33:58.200 --> 1:34:00.519 I could I could see if I was like if 1:34:00.600 --> 1:34:02.599 because guys are always up and down in the locker room, 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:04.519 people don't realize we see each other at her worst 1:34:04.520 --> 1:34:05.479 and at our best. 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:07.400 So that's the thing. I feel like people didn't connect 1:34:07.400 --> 1:34:09.280 to Russell about right because you got like a guy 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:11.680 like Marshaw who kind of shows up to everything. Then 1:34:11.720 --> 1:34:13.840 maybe Russell doesn't show up to everything. And people started 1:34:13.840 --> 1:34:15.320 feeling a certain way, you know what I mean, because 1:34:15.360 --> 1:34:18.360 it's like everybody's showing up to everybody's things, but it's like, well, 1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:20.080 you're not coming, like but it's like you go to 1:34:20.120 --> 1:34:23.839 everybody's birthday party, go to all kids' birthday parties, you know, weddings, 1:34:23.920 --> 1:34:26.559 all these different things. So like people want to see 1:34:26.680 --> 1:34:28.800 teammates invested in those type of things. And when people 1:34:28.880 --> 1:34:31.679 smell that, they can understand that something feels weird. 1:34:32.280 --> 1:34:34.720 Yeah, now, what do you guys think about? What did 1:34:34.760 --> 1:34:38.799 you think about? You guys grind back? You guys somehow 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:41.840 get a touchdown for the because the offense wasn't doing 1:34:41.880 --> 1:34:45.440 anything all day. The fake field goal, fake field goal touchdown. 1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:48.960 When you get that two point version. Are you sitting 1:34:49.000 --> 1:34:50.280 there like, well. 1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:52.320 At that time. I always believe that Russell Wilson was 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:56.200 a great person who didn't really get overcome by anything. 1:34:56.240 --> 1:34:58.400 No matter how much noise he was here, how many 1:34:58.400 --> 1:35:01.360 things that was happening, he would be super focused, hyper focused. 1:35:01.400 --> 1:35:04.800 Like even in that situation, you know Bryce Young, I mean, 1:35:05.280 --> 1:35:07.840 for you know, he wouldn't do that. Like Bryce Young 1:35:07.960 --> 1:35:10.000 is saying that it's not his fault that he played bad. 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:13.960 I'm like, it was your fault, you know, Like like, 1:35:14.080 --> 1:35:15.640 but Russell will say that at that time, like you 1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:18.400 could see that he still had like he still wanted 1:35:18.439 --> 1:35:20.120 to win. Like he wasn't like going down. He was 1:35:20.160 --> 1:35:22.680 talking to himself, he was like really like he made 1:35:22.720 --> 1:35:25.639 some mistakes, but he definitely was like he wanted to. 1:35:25.600 --> 1:35:27.479 When his team needed and he made a couple of plays. 1:35:27.600 --> 1:35:28.040 Wanted to win. 1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:31.519 Yeah, and like the resilience of that is was so 1:35:31.600 --> 1:35:35.080 incredible watching this and halftime he's two for nine twelve yards, 1:35:35.520 --> 1:35:38.080 three interceptions with a QBR of zero point zero. 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:40.000 Like and then to come back and. 1:35:40.040 --> 1:35:42.320 When did you feel that you guys were gonna win 1:35:42.360 --> 1:35:43.559 this game? Was it the whole time? 1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:45.280 Yeah? I thought it was gonna win the whole time. Honestly, 1:35:45.320 --> 1:35:46.639 I felt like we was just a moment of time 1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:49.080 before we have that that win. I felt like when 1:35:49.560 --> 1:35:52.520 they weren't capitalizing on all the interceptions and the turnovers, 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:55.840 that eventually that we would get it and we'll figure out, like, man, 1:35:55.840 --> 1:35:57.400 maybe we should just start running the ball because it 1:35:57.439 --> 1:35:58.400 was kind of cold that day too. 1:35:58.479 --> 1:36:00.400 You guys, well, you guys ran the ball while you 1:36:00.439 --> 1:36:02.400 were down two scores of five minutes to go. Yeah, 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:04.880 we got That's crazy to me. We got Marshall Lynch 1:36:05.120 --> 1:36:07.240 without a doubt, But we didn't do that in. 1:36:07.160 --> 1:36:09.120 The Super Bowl, which was never made sense to me. 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:11.320 I'm like, you know, I'm like watching the game like 1:36:11.360 --> 1:36:13.760 you watched that little part. It's like, well we thought 1:36:14.160 --> 1:36:16.839 we do like they y'all was ready for the play offense, 1:36:16.880 --> 1:36:19.479 you know, like no, Mark, Yeah, I don't know what. 1:36:19.640 --> 1:36:21.240 We ran the ball in that game and believed that 1:36:21.360 --> 1:36:23.960 Marshawn but Marshall and that game was just a tough 1:36:23.960 --> 1:36:25.680 game because Aaron Rodgers, like I said, you knew he's 1:36:25.680 --> 1:36:28.120 gonna be MVP. He had an incredible season, so like 1:36:28.320 --> 1:36:30.160 us stopping him in that scoring gave us a lot 1:36:30.160 --> 1:36:32.840 of opportunities to be able to win that game. 1:36:33.000 --> 1:36:35.040 That was huge there at the end, with like five left, 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:37.200 Russell throws his fourth interception in the game. You're down 1:36:37.240 --> 1:36:39.799 to two scores, like, oh shit, and then the biggest 1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:41.360 I mean the biggest three and now you guys for 1:36:41.439 --> 1:36:43.400 us was you getting up the middle and getting through 1:36:43.400 --> 1:36:46.599 the lacy back to back times tackles for losses ends 1:36:46.680 --> 1:36:49.600 up third and sixteen forces that point, and like I. 1:36:50.200 --> 1:36:52.320 Was in my head, I was like, bro, I was like, 1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:54.400 they better not run this way because right now, like 1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:55.640 I was going to go for it, you know what 1:36:55.640 --> 1:36:57.400 I'm saying, Like I was going to go through the 1:36:57.479 --> 1:37:00.519 person and go to make that play out. Didn't care. 1:37:00.560 --> 1:37:02.439 I was like, like some hulk shit, Yeah, some hawk shit. 1:37:02.479 --> 1:37:04.880 I was like like literally, it was like three people 1:37:04.920 --> 1:37:06.680 blocking me, and I like picked the tight end up 1:37:06.720 --> 1:37:08.880 through the full back down and then made the running back. 1:37:08.920 --> 1:37:10.080 I was just like, I don't care right now. I 1:37:10.080 --> 1:37:12.000 don't really care about my body at this moment. I 1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:13.439 really just want to win this game. 1:37:13.560 --> 1:37:16.040 And hell it blew off. It was like full warrior mode. 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:21.519 That's the beauty of playoff football because whether guys will 1:37:21.520 --> 1:37:25.120 say it or not, there are calculated risks during the 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:29.240 regular season. In playoffs, all that's out. That's why it's 1:37:29.280 --> 1:37:32.080 the most dangerous time to play, because guys don't give up. 1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:34.920 There's no tomorrow, No no tomorrow. 1:37:35.040 --> 1:37:36.680 Like I didn't care, like I know that tight end. 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:38.800 Probably was like he's just gonna come off the ball, right. 1:37:38.840 --> 1:37:40.800 But then I'm like, plus the tight ends. I never 1:37:40.880 --> 1:37:42.320 let tight ends block me because I just. 1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:45.519 Like, yeah, you can't let it. You can't let a 1:37:45.560 --> 1:37:45.880 tight end. 1:37:46.200 --> 1:37:49.000 Gronk was good, but you know, Gronka block. The Gronker 1:37:49.040 --> 1:37:52.920 block and after that, we love Gronk. After that that 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:56.120 awesome sting. Only eighteen seconds come off the clock, score 1:37:56.800 --> 1:37:59.960 get the on side kick, which is crazy. Chris Matthew, 1:38:00.000 --> 1:38:01.800 he was mister the man. 1:38:02.200 --> 1:38:04.479 Did you guys remember practicing that You saw that in practice? 1:38:04.560 --> 1:38:06.240 Yeah. But also was like Chris Matthews just had a 1:38:06.240 --> 1:38:07.800 great month. You know what I'm saying. If I was him, 1:38:07.800 --> 1:38:10.120 I would have played the lottery like every day, like 1:38:10.200 --> 1:38:12.040 you know what, like it's my time. 1:38:12.120 --> 1:38:13.200 Why did he have a great month? 1:38:13.400 --> 1:38:15.479 He played so good in that game, He played great 1:38:15.479 --> 1:38:18.360 in the Super Bowl. Yeah, and that he was like 1:38:18.360 --> 1:38:20.400 the champion of that game. Really, when we think about it. 1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:23.760 Sounds like one hundred and thirty scene that was most 1:38:23.760 --> 1:38:26.599 of his career. Yeah production, super yeah. 1:38:27.560 --> 1:38:27.760 Yeah. 1:38:28.280 --> 1:38:31.639 And then Marshaan to the go ahead touchdown, leave it like. 1:38:31.760 --> 1:38:34.400 That was so second. The way he walked, he goes backwards. 1:38:34.439 --> 1:38:39.479 He always you could be he did it like while 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:41.320 he was looking at the guy, did you see it? 1:38:41.360 --> 1:38:42.759 Like he didn't do it to the world. 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:45.519 He didn't do it to the world, kind of diving backwards. 1:38:45.800 --> 1:38:47.960 Then he went and shook his guy's hands. He's like, 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:50.280 but he did the whole my d before he did 1:38:50.640 --> 1:38:51.200 on a sneak. 1:38:51.439 --> 1:38:52.920 I don't think he was thinking like that he was. 1:38:53.040 --> 1:38:55.720 Maybe he was. He was. He very one of the 1:38:55.720 --> 1:38:56.400 smart people ever. 1:38:56.479 --> 1:38:56.639 Man. 1:38:57.439 --> 1:38:59.160 I love Marshan. We got to get him on here. 1:38:59.280 --> 1:38:59.760 We got it. 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:02.479 Then this thing goes into ot leave a little too 1:39:02.560 --> 1:39:05.599 much time on the clock, Mason Crosby Field, little forces 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:08.519 over time. Russ and the boys get the kick or 1:39:08.560 --> 1:39:12.280 get the coin flip go down. Six plays, eighty seven yards, 1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:15.280 three minutes, nineteen seconds. Russ was three for three for 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:17.520 eighty yards with the walk off, Duddy. 1:39:17.640 --> 1:39:21.080 The walk off that changed my Jamaine cursed life right. 1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:23.600 That was a tough catch. Jermaine Curse is really one 1:39:23.640 --> 1:39:25.080 of the most underrated receivers. 1:39:25.200 --> 1:39:26.400 He loves those seam route. 1:39:26.520 --> 1:39:26.720 Yeah. 1:39:26.840 --> 1:39:29.200 He's made a lot of big plays that people overlook, 1:39:29.320 --> 1:39:32.400 you know, like the Malcolm play or the one where 1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:34.160 he like kicked the ball and caught it. 1:39:34.280 --> 1:39:37.160 Get the one again that was on Malcolm but oh yeah, 1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:39.599 like on the scene right in the Super Bowl. Yeah, 1:39:39.640 --> 1:39:43.559 where like yeah, because Malcolm had a great play on it. 1:39:43.720 --> 1:39:47.400 But Jamaica has a great hand eye coordination, like lay 1:39:47.439 --> 1:39:48.760 the ball in the area. Well, he's also like a 1:39:48.800 --> 1:39:51.080 really great golf player. He's a decent tennis player. 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:53.879 It can't beat me, but you get a tennis greater. 1:39:53.800 --> 1:39:56.599 Tennis Yeah, yeah, I punch cronk at the end. 1:39:58.280 --> 1:40:01.960 Yeah, so the aftermath, let's get in after the uh Europe. 1:40:02.000 --> 1:40:04.160 So did you get a little you did your little 1:40:04.200 --> 1:40:06.200 bike thing? Do you remember when Marshawn did it with 1:40:06.200 --> 1:40:07.960 the field car in college? 1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:10.080 You know, I remember him doing that, but I was 1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:11.360 just like I was tired. I was like, let me 1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:14.880 get around this. You know, Black people and the police 1:40:14.920 --> 1:40:16.760 we don't really get along. It was like that was 1:40:16.880 --> 1:40:19.519 really kind of there was an opportunity to change the 1:40:19.520 --> 1:40:21.519 world if they would have just followed me on that. 1:40:21.560 --> 1:40:23.160 You know, what do you mean? Like I was. 1:40:24.920 --> 1:40:25.400 That a cop? 1:40:25.520 --> 1:40:26.040 That was a cop? 1:40:26.360 --> 1:40:26.559 Yeah? 1:40:26.560 --> 1:40:28.479 I was like, give me your bike, I'm coming during this? 1:40:28.760 --> 1:40:29.240 Did he cool? 1:40:29.280 --> 1:40:29.720 He was cool? 1:40:29.760 --> 1:40:30.840 It was cool with it. I don't know if that 1:40:30.840 --> 1:40:32.280 would have happened if I was like on the streets 1:40:32.320 --> 1:40:32.879 in Chicago. 1:40:33.840 --> 1:40:37.240 Let me click victory lap. Yeah, twenty eight twenty two, 1:40:37.720 --> 1:40:39.920 Just to clear that one up, Seattle with twenty eight 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:42.960 to twenty two. You guys coming back from sixteen oh down, 1:40:43.400 --> 1:40:47.240 You guys are flying high big in the Super Bowls there. 1:40:47.760 --> 1:40:49.960 I mean, that's that's a fun that's a fun feeling 1:40:50.000 --> 1:40:54.040 after like a close when we played the Chiefs and 1:40:54.479 --> 1:40:58.679 beat him on the road in eighteen, Like close games 1:40:58.680 --> 1:41:02.120 in the NFC Championship, you feel so exhilarate because you're 1:41:02.400 --> 1:41:04.160 you finally get to go to the last game. It's 1:41:04.160 --> 1:41:07.120 almost like certain teams once you like I remember when 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:09.200 I first went to the Super Bowl in ten eleven, 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:11.880 like it was like we won because we were going 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:14.679 and there were certain guys that are like, nah, we're 1:41:14.680 --> 1:41:15.280 not done. 1:41:15.520 --> 1:41:17.479 Yeah. I think that's one of those things you realize, too, 1:41:17.600 --> 1:41:20.080 is like how hard it is to get to that 1:41:20.280 --> 1:41:23.479 whole level of Super Bowl and like trying to stay 1:41:23.479 --> 1:41:26.599 in the moment and actually getting there and like having 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:28.679 really playing a tough game, and then that second half 1:41:28.720 --> 1:41:32.080 really the Patriots really did a great job. So the 1:41:32.120 --> 1:41:35.680 aftermath was really interesting because I think that was one 1:41:35.680 --> 1:41:37.599 of those turning points. I think if we win that game, 1:41:37.640 --> 1:41:39.519 we probably would probably end up going to three Super 1:41:39.560 --> 1:41:42.640 Bowls back to back, right. I think you know, the 1:41:42.680 --> 1:41:45.000 coming that following you was very difficult because it was 1:41:45.040 --> 1:41:48.160 like took the whole season to kind of like finally 1:41:48.200 --> 1:41:51.240 get together as one unit because everybody's pointy fingers of 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.720 whose fault it was, but my my head, it was 1:41:53.760 --> 1:41:56.360 like it's everybody's fault if you lose. Honestly less, it's 1:41:56.360 --> 1:41:59.320 just like a really unique play where it's like comes 1:41:59.360 --> 1:42:01.120 down to it, but you know, we gave up points 1:42:01.120 --> 1:42:03.519 on defense, offense didn't score enough for it. We didn't 1:42:03.520 --> 1:42:05.280 do this just like everybody plays a role in it. 1:42:05.560 --> 1:42:07.759 Yeah, I mean, it's a team sport. It's that ultimate 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:11.519 team sport. Eleven men have to do their job for 1:42:11.560 --> 1:42:15.040 five seconds and if one guy messes up, it could 1:42:15.040 --> 1:42:16.280 be a colossal funk up. 1:42:16.560 --> 1:42:17.960 I'm choking Gronk on this one. 1:42:18.120 --> 1:42:20.679 So how what? What can we talk about this? How 1:42:20.720 --> 1:42:21.280 did this go? 1:42:22.120 --> 1:42:24.120 I don't know. I just just like, man, fuck, they 1:42:24.120 --> 1:42:25.680 want you know what I'm saying, like let's fight. You 1:42:25.720 --> 1:42:31.240 know what I'm saying, let's just fight, Like who wouldn't fight? 1:42:31.320 --> 1:42:33.680 You know what I'm saying, like might as well at 1:42:33.680 --> 1:42:34.880 this point? What's gonna happen? 1:42:35.040 --> 1:42:37.880 It's just it's that theory that you don't know if 1:42:37.880 --> 1:42:39.439 you're like winning more than you hate this. 1:42:39.680 --> 1:42:42.000 Yeah, it's just like, man, like all that have to 1:42:42.000 --> 1:42:44.920 be here. Yeah, and I'll played really good this game 1:42:45.040 --> 1:42:47.960 and I was just like I was just like wanting 1:42:48.000 --> 1:42:50.880 to like yeah, but it all turns out it. 1:42:50.800 --> 1:42:54.080 Is what it is now. Immediately after that game in 1:42:54.240 --> 1:42:58.920 locker room was here like it was shocked. Why did 1:42:58.960 --> 1:42:59.760 we not run it? 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:01.559 Yeah? I think that was what everybody was thinking. 1:43:01.760 --> 1:43:03.320 Was that was that everyone's mind? 1:43:03.520 --> 1:43:05.240 Yeah? I think he still thinks. I think that's when 1:43:05.680 --> 1:43:07.679 you'll probably never say that, but I did. I bet 1:43:07.760 --> 1:43:10.479 in his head a little bit there, like he wonders 1:43:10.520 --> 1:43:12.040 if what happened if you just ran the ball? 1:43:12.120 --> 1:43:12.280 Right? 1:43:12.320 --> 1:43:17.080 I think, yeah, well, you guys can't speak down four? 1:43:17.280 --> 1:43:21.000 So it was third down? Was it third down second. 1:43:21.080 --> 1:43:24.479 I believe second time they had three downs at the two. 1:43:24.760 --> 1:43:27.599 I went through it to fourth down and we was all, yeah, 1:43:27.640 --> 1:43:30.599 so most likely we did two quarterback sneaks. Yeah. 1:43:30.760 --> 1:43:41.200 That sorry that, I'm thankful that the right. Yeah, legacy, 1:43:41.200 --> 1:43:45.160 the Mount Rushworths defenders. After that one, I think there's 1:43:45.160 --> 1:43:46.400 still and you still got Earl Thomas. 1:43:46.400 --> 1:43:48.599 Earl Tummins probably goes down as one of the best safeties. 1:43:48.600 --> 1:43:50.120 I think it will take them a little bit too. 1:43:50.760 --> 1:43:52.800 You know, everything that kind of happened at the end 1:43:53.000 --> 1:43:55.479 will be shaky, But I think he still is a 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:58.439 Hall of Famer. I think Sharon for short Sherman has 1:43:58.479 --> 1:44:01.639 done a great job and retire and career all things 1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:05.320 he's done is in football, Bobby for sure, Like kJ 1:44:05.439 --> 1:44:08.920 is really good, Cliff was great, Cam was great. Like 1:44:08.920 --> 1:44:10.479 There's a lot of great defenders on that team. 1:44:10.760 --> 1:44:13.320 It's just the whole defense is the Legion of Boom, 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:15.960 the whole the whole defense is on the wall. 1:44:16.240 --> 1:44:17.920 The whole defense is on the wall. Take a great 1:44:17.920 --> 1:44:19.320 defense to win it? 1:44:19.439 --> 1:44:19.679 Does? 1:44:19.920 --> 1:44:22.120 I think, where do we go with the best defensive history? 1:44:22.160 --> 1:44:23.559 Yeah? Where does this go in the best. 1:44:23.520 --> 1:44:25.639 Some people say some people say number one and number 1:44:25.680 --> 1:44:26.719 two depends what you asked. 1:44:26.960 --> 1:44:28.439 Compete with what eighty five bears? 1:44:28.479 --> 1:44:30.320 Eighty five Bears are the Ravens. 1:44:30.720 --> 1:44:32.880 Ravens two thousand Ravens. 1:44:32.920 --> 1:44:37.920 Yeah, that's statistically we were kind of the best. 1:44:37.960 --> 1:44:39.440 We look at statistic wise. 1:44:39.240 --> 1:44:40.559 How which statistics show that. 1:44:40.600 --> 1:44:43.280 Scoring, running, passing turn? You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 1:44:43.560 --> 1:44:47.320 so I don't know, some could say, some could say, 1:44:47.400 --> 1:44:50.200 I mean, it was a fucking tough defense. You had 1:44:50.280 --> 1:44:55.160 to earn everything. You had to play so precise. Any 1:44:55.560 --> 1:44:58.320 fuck up against that defense, they made you pay. The 1:44:58.400 --> 1:45:00.680 thing I loved about that defense too is just the competitiveess. 1:45:00.880 --> 1:45:03.000 It really was the practice, not really the games, Like 1:45:03.280 --> 1:45:05.360 it was just really just like the amount of compete 1:45:05.360 --> 1:45:08.880 the mount people compete at practice, Like that's crazy when 1:45:08.920 --> 1:45:13.280 you think about like Sharan like really trying to intercept Doug, 1:45:13.360 --> 1:45:15.599 Like the defense is super great, Like well the forty 1:45:15.640 --> 1:45:17.400 nineis was good too, though, So I don't know that 1:45:17.479 --> 1:45:19.360 one time the forty nineers had a really great defense 1:45:19.400 --> 1:45:21.840 with all the smith justin Smith, Patrick Willis in the 1:45:21.880 --> 1:45:22.559 bar ball Man. 1:45:22.760 --> 1:45:25.400 Oh yeah, they always have a good deal, Like they 1:45:25.400 --> 1:45:27.040 still have a good defense, but like I don't know 1:45:27.080 --> 1:45:29.080 what's up with their defense. Right now, they can't stop 1:45:29.120 --> 1:45:31.200 the run. They got to stop the run. They lost 1:45:31.280 --> 1:45:34.639 Armstead what's his name? Hardgrave just got hurt, didn't he. 1:45:34.760 --> 1:45:36.800 Yeah, stopping a run is a decision. I think they 1:45:36.880 --> 1:45:42.600 made pass rushing so important to overlook defense. Like some 1:45:42.640 --> 1:45:44.280 people will be like, oh, I want a guy who 1:45:44.680 --> 1:45:46.920 if I'm a defensive coordinator, I think a guy who 1:45:47.000 --> 1:45:50.800 gets between ten and fifteen sacks and has like twenty 1:45:50.880 --> 1:45:53.880 five TFLs and like a lot of quarterback hits and 1:45:54.040 --> 1:45:57.240 disruptive more than a guy who has like twenty sections. 1:45:57.280 --> 1:45:58.800 All he does is rush up the field, get the sack. 1:45:58.840 --> 1:46:01.519 But it's like, that's my problem with Michael Parson. Michael 1:46:01.560 --> 1:46:03.280 Parsons Right when you watch some of the games, it's 1:46:03.320 --> 1:46:05.320 like he's a really good defender, but like there's some 1:46:05.360 --> 1:46:07.080 things they can improve in on the run game. Like 1:46:07.160 --> 1:46:09.840 even when you watch the game against the Ravens, like 1:46:09.880 --> 1:46:12.439 there was plays where you know he was supposed to 1:46:12.439 --> 1:46:13.800 be in the gap and you could see him like 1:46:13.880 --> 1:46:17.040 over pursuing. But he's a smaller guy front playing defensive line. 1:46:17.080 --> 1:46:19.800 But at the same time, it's like sometimes with the defenders, 1:46:19.800 --> 1:46:22.280 like when you to get better at the run game, 1:46:22.400 --> 1:46:24.880 keep his sack total, like he gets like eighteen sacks, 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:27.040 Like let's just get fifteen and like let's get you 1:46:27.080 --> 1:46:28.800 thirty TFLs. You know what I'm saying, Like let's be 1:46:28.840 --> 1:46:30.679 in the field. Like JJ Watt was really good because 1:46:30.760 --> 1:46:32.400 JJ Way had a lot of TFLs when you look 1:46:32.439 --> 1:46:34.120 at the end of the season, like he had a 1:46:34.160 --> 1:46:36.080 lot of plays behind the line, scrimmage in the run game, 1:46:36.160 --> 1:46:38.120 like it was kind of overlooked. 1:46:38.320 --> 1:46:41.200 Yeah, I mean, he was never overlooked when we played them. 1:46:41.280 --> 1:46:43.080 We played them, but you know, I'm just saying, like 1:46:43.320 --> 1:46:45.880 people talk about his pass rusher, but but yeah, a lot. 1:46:45.760 --> 1:46:48.519 Of I think that's what made him mean better than 1:46:48.840 --> 1:46:49.599 a pass rusher. 1:46:49.840 --> 1:46:52.280 He was just an overall player like Terrell Suggs. Like 1:46:52.280 --> 1:46:54.000 you look at the end of the year, like those 1:46:54.000 --> 1:46:56.080 guys were overall good players to where it was like 1:46:56.120 --> 1:46:58.519 they were just great defenders. They weren't great pass rushers, 1:46:58.520 --> 1:47:01.519 great defenders every day guys that could do it all 1:47:01.560 --> 1:47:03.519 and get to the back of the quarterback to get 1:47:03.520 --> 1:47:05.679 to hits. They could have TFLs like it would always 1:47:05.680 --> 1:47:07.200 have twenty five plus TFLs, you know. 1:47:07.720 --> 1:47:10.160 I Mean, that's that's how Bill looks at it. I 1:47:10.240 --> 1:47:13.720 feel just because like anytime we'd always have an outside 1:47:13.720 --> 1:47:15.960 guy come in and join our defense, I get out 1:47:16.040 --> 1:47:19.439 like they would always get mad like we have too 1:47:19.520 --> 1:47:22.280 much response, like they're not even going for a goddamn sack, 1:47:22.680 --> 1:47:24.080 you know what I mean, Because we would have a 1:47:24.120 --> 1:47:26.040 thing where you keep him in the pocket making beat 1:47:26.080 --> 1:47:27.720 them with the defense. You know, there's always like a 1:47:27.720 --> 1:47:31.599 strategic thing of the defensive line rush where we were 1:47:31.640 --> 1:47:34.040 at as you probably can talk to, where a lot 1:47:34.080 --> 1:47:36.160 of guys were like, that's not how we what I 1:47:36.200 --> 1:47:36.639 came from. 1:47:36.680 --> 1:47:39.559 No, no, exactly, but I would say that's the thing 1:47:39.600 --> 1:47:41.559 I al would say that when I watch football now, 1:47:41.560 --> 1:47:44.040 you see a lot of guys like even like Derrick Henry, 1:47:44.040 --> 1:47:45.559 a lot of those runs are just guys kind of 1:47:45.600 --> 1:47:47.800 just being out being out the gap, like you know, 1:47:48.320 --> 1:47:51.240 the purposely, No, I think. I think sometimes it's just 1:47:51.280 --> 1:47:53.639 like when they running those stretch plays or they double 1:47:53.720 --> 1:47:55.519 up on the office and line where they like where 1:47:56.280 --> 1:47:58.400 you get nudged by the tackle or the tackles working 1:47:58.479 --> 1:48:00.720 his way up to the to the linebacker, or you 1:48:00.760 --> 1:48:02.400 are two I and the center bumps you and he's 1:48:02.439 --> 1:48:04.120 on the way to the mic. You know what I'm saying, like, 1:48:04.479 --> 1:48:07.280 and they isolating DB's on some of those crunch plays. 1:48:07.439 --> 1:48:10.000 Nobody likes those crunch plays where where you're making the 1:48:11.280 --> 1:48:13.280 cornerback tackle. It was a hard place to stop. You know, 1:48:13.400 --> 1:48:15.760 you look at look at that type of defense, and 1:48:15.800 --> 1:48:18.240 then you got a good blocking receivers. It's hard. 1:48:19.560 --> 1:48:21.800 It's a decision, like you said, you said, blocking the 1:48:21.880 --> 1:48:22.719 runs the decision. 1:48:22.920 --> 1:48:25.360 Yeah, life is a decision when you come out to football. 1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:27.599 You choosing violence or violence is choosing you. 1:48:27.840 --> 1:48:29.360 To choose the violence. 1:48:30.479 --> 1:48:33.800 Or choose the violence on the football field. The football field, 1:48:34.320 --> 1:48:36.479 not on the off the field, on the field. 1:48:36.680 --> 1:48:39.200 In sports, we missed anything about this game. 1:48:39.200 --> 1:48:41.120 No, I think you got it right. I think this 1:48:41.240 --> 1:48:42.640 is one of the It'll go down as one of 1:48:42.640 --> 1:48:47.120 the most one of the greatest Division championship games because 1:48:47.120 --> 1:48:49.519 it came down to like two great teams. The great 1:48:49.560 --> 1:48:51.519 offense did what the great offense was supposed to do, 1:48:51.600 --> 1:48:53.600 and then at the end, the great defense did what 1:48:53.640 --> 1:48:55.680 it was supposed to do. And to end up with 1:48:55.960 --> 1:48:58.120 one team just making one more play than an other. 1:48:58.479 --> 1:49:01.960 Dude, I couldn't agree more. It was so fun going 1:49:02.040 --> 1:49:07.120 back and watching this game, you know, because I don't 1:49:07.120 --> 1:49:09.680 really remember. I didn't remember it as much because I 1:49:09.760 --> 1:49:12.439 was in the AFC, But going back and seeing this, 1:49:12.640 --> 1:49:14.920 like we we may never see a game like that 1:49:15.000 --> 1:49:18.160 again because the on site kicks and and you know 1:49:18.200 --> 1:49:20.000 what I mean, we you can't get an on side 1:49:20.040 --> 1:49:24.000 kick nowadays, It's fucking impossible. You gotta declare this certain 1:49:24.040 --> 1:49:27.240 amount of guys can't be over here, this like that 1:49:27.400 --> 1:49:30.719 with the interceptions. It's just it was a fun game 1:49:30.800 --> 1:49:33.639 to redive into. And I appreciate you fucking coming into 1:49:33.680 --> 1:49:34.160 a timer. 1:49:34.240 --> 1:49:35.280 Thank you, thank you, thank you. 1:49:35.360 --> 1:49:42.960 We'll be right back after this quick break anything. 1:49:43.520 --> 1:49:45.720 Uh wait, well I got one note here before we go. 1:49:46.560 --> 1:49:48.200 The quest is what we were trying to think of 1:49:48.240 --> 1:49:52.679 earlier with John Claude Van dam Baby West nineteen ninety six. 1:49:54.240 --> 1:49:56.640 Just like you said, shout out John Cloud Vandam. 1:49:56.360 --> 1:49:58.320 Jean Clum Van damn you mak at John CoV VANDAM 1:49:58.439 --> 1:49:58.840 on the show. 1:49:58.920 --> 1:50:01.479 Oh my god, we got to that would be. I 1:50:01.479 --> 1:50:03.240 wonder what would he do like a soccer game. 1:50:04.760 --> 1:50:06.439 I'm sure he watch football. He was in America and 1:50:06.439 --> 1:50:09.240 the time, hanging out with like like a fighting match. 1:50:10.479 --> 1:50:11.920 I don't care if you read the bumbos. I'll let 1:50:11.960 --> 1:50:12.360 him in here, do. 1:50:12.479 --> 1:50:15.320 Real quick before we wrap this thing up. We gotta 1:50:15.400 --> 1:50:18.120 name the game. What's the name of this game we have? 1:50:18.520 --> 1:50:19.920 It doesn't have to be any of this. We have 1:50:19.960 --> 1:50:22.640 the Victory Lap game, give me the Bike Game, the 1:50:22.760 --> 1:50:26.560 Danger Russ Game, Bennett's Bike Ride Game, or could it 1:50:26.640 --> 1:50:28.040 be a different game name? 1:50:28.960 --> 1:50:30.280 The name of that game would be. 1:50:31.439 --> 1:50:34.919 Out of someone very artistic, like you expect something really creative. 1:50:35.360 --> 1:50:38.000 No pressure, which is brew? 1:50:38.320 --> 1:50:39.120 Which is brew? 1:50:39.320 --> 1:50:41.719 Miles Davis. What's a lot of things in that game? 1:50:41.960 --> 1:50:46.000 A brew of competition, a brew of offenses, defenses. 1:50:45.920 --> 1:50:49.920 Plays by everything, the Witches Brew game. It would be 1:50:49.920 --> 1:50:51.800 one of the best names we ever heard. Love, Let's 1:50:51.840 --> 1:50:54.320 score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? 1:50:54.479 --> 1:50:58.759 Let's score it. Michael steaks zero to ten decimals, Okay, 1:50:58.800 --> 1:51:00.600 the stakes of this game, it. 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:02.960 Was definitely a ten that sticks ten. 1:51:03.200 --> 1:51:06.040 Tend to go to the Super Bowl. Star Power start. 1:51:06.160 --> 1:51:09.320 I'll go nine. Star power of this game ninety two 1:51:09.439 --> 1:51:16.200 nine star power nine nine. I'll give it a nine, Aaron, 1:51:16.200 --> 1:51:17.320 I mean, you got a lot of Hall of Famers 1:51:17.360 --> 1:51:18.559 in this back kind of seven nine out of. 1:51:18.560 --> 1:51:20.320 Eight one, hey one, what is it? What do you? 1:51:20.360 --> 1:51:22.200 What do you call stars. I got what is it? 1:51:22.200 --> 1:51:25.640 What's a ten star game? For me? That's like the 1:51:25.960 --> 1:51:30.479 that's the worst star power. Honestly, not a lot effort. Being. 1:51:31.400 --> 1:51:33.960 Brandon Marshall would argue that the opposite, because when he 1:51:34.000 --> 1:51:36.240 came on this show, he talked about his Pro Bowl 1:51:36.280 --> 1:51:39.519 game that he got a m vpn B Mars. 1:51:39.520 --> 1:51:44.040 You gotta start with it, stop, Chevy Trunk. Got to 1:51:44.040 --> 1:51:45.400 start with that ship man. 1:51:46.280 --> 1:51:47.839 The game player of this game. 1:51:48.280 --> 1:51:51.640 The game play. I would say ten because of the 1:51:51.640 --> 1:51:55.040 amount of between nine nine. I say nine nine, nine 1:51:55.120 --> 1:51:57.800 point five because I feel like it was like it 1:51:57.920 --> 1:52:00.200 was like it took a lot to come back, like 1:52:00.640 --> 1:52:03.439 high level, like it was a lot of players make 1:52:03.479 --> 1:52:05.840 big plays, like those interceptions. Those players made those plays. 1:52:05.840 --> 1:52:08.519 They weren't just thrown interceptions. Those guys make great. 1:52:08.360 --> 1:52:12.120 Plays without a doubt. You know, I'm an offensive guy. 1:52:12.120 --> 1:52:14.280 I have a little bias. I want to see some points. 1:52:14.680 --> 1:52:17.000 But if you're a real football person, this had I mean, 1:52:17.040 --> 1:52:22.360 this had special teams, touchdown, special teams, fumbles, over time. 1:52:22.720 --> 1:52:24.519 Everybody was involved, everyone was in. 1:52:24.640 --> 1:52:27.000 It's the Witch's brew game. So I'm gonna go with 1:52:27.040 --> 1:52:29.320 the eight point seven. So funny, he. 1:52:29.400 --> 1:52:34.360 Choked recovered in the game. That's gonna be a high score. 1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:37.040 I got an eight point nine out of nine point one. 1:52:37.080 --> 1:52:38.479 We're all in the same region there. 1:52:38.360 --> 1:52:40.439 And the name of the game. You have to grade 1:52:40.720 --> 1:52:41.040 the name. 1:52:41.080 --> 1:52:42.680 I think a ten for because I made it up 1:52:42.760 --> 1:52:43.519 so ten. 1:52:44.960 --> 1:52:47.880 I'm gonna go with an eight point eight. 1:52:49.240 --> 1:52:50.639 Jack had a seven eye of six. 1:52:50.840 --> 1:52:52.439 I scored this before I knew we were calling her, 1:52:52.439 --> 1:52:54.240 which is but what is it? 1:52:54.280 --> 1:52:54.720 What is it? 1:52:54.800 --> 1:52:55.120 Land? 1:52:55.720 --> 1:52:57.120 This is an eight point seven. 1:52:57.160 --> 1:52:58.080 This is gonna land high. 1:52:58.080 --> 1:53:00.439 It's gotta change. I gotta change the metrics with the name. 1:53:00.520 --> 1:53:03.360 Now that you guys give me, I'd like to bump 1:53:03.400 --> 1:53:04.000 it up a little bit. 1:53:04.040 --> 1:53:05.040 Eight point seventy five. 1:53:05.840 --> 1:53:07.880 This puts us really point seventy three. 1:53:08.000 --> 1:53:10.200 This puts US tied with the nineteen ninety nine Women's 1:53:10.200 --> 1:53:12.080 World Cup China versus the USA. 1:53:12.240 --> 1:53:13.680 That was a good game. Yeah, just me and. 1:53:13.640 --> 1:53:15.280 Him was in that one, right, Yeah the Rose Brandy 1:53:15.320 --> 1:53:17.400 chest Hain't took your shirt off? Yeah, oh yeah, we 1:53:17.479 --> 1:53:19.280 had her on the show. She was awesome. 1:53:19.360 --> 1:53:21.479 Tied for six. This is a great game. This is 1:53:21.520 --> 1:53:23.320 not really a great game. It's a great spot for 1:53:23.360 --> 1:53:23.639 this game. 1:53:23.720 --> 1:53:26.280 That's it. Thank you, Thank you man. 1:53:26.840 --> 1:53:29.000 Michael anything else, no, no, thank you guy. You gotta 1:53:29.040 --> 1:53:32.680 plug anything? No, no, man, Well, I appreciate you coming in. 1:53:33.200 --> 1:53:36.839 And I hope the the college looks with your daughters 1:53:36.960 --> 1:53:37.479 go great. 1:53:37.720 --> 1:53:39.559 Yeah, it would go good. I think it would be good. 1:53:39.760 --> 1:53:40.599 I'm getting old. 1:53:40.439 --> 1:53:44.360 Now, that's gotta be a I mean hit me the 1:53:44.400 --> 1:53:45.080 other day when. 1:53:44.920 --> 1:53:47.639 I was like, you know, buy her car and like stuff. 1:53:47.640 --> 1:53:51.479 I'm just like, damn going on college tours, man, Like 1:53:51.800 --> 1:53:54.479 this is the last time this this October second, is 1:53:54.479 --> 1:53:56.519 the last time you'd be in the house. What else 1:53:56.560 --> 1:53:59.920 you know? I was like, that's real, man, crime. 1:54:01.160 --> 1:54:03.120 The days are long, but the years are sure. Yeah, 1:54:03.240 --> 1:54:05.760 the days are long. Well, thank you so much, man, 1:54:05.800 --> 1:54:12.240 And it's gonna be awesome. Man, he was awesome. He's 1:54:12.280 --> 1:54:17.839 he's just that family. They're so like they're really smart people. 1:54:18.880 --> 1:54:23.280 Him and Marty Michael, like, I think they're a little misunderstood. 1:54:24.640 --> 1:54:26.759 He's He's I think they're like brilliant people. 1:54:27.120 --> 1:54:30.960 They're like interesting human beings who happened to be football players. 1:54:31.280 --> 1:54:34.560 But they powerful. But like you know, Michael loves football 1:54:34.680 --> 1:54:38.360 like he was he's for sure watching you listen to 1:54:38.360 --> 1:54:40.960 how he was breaking down the game. He watches the game. Like, 1:54:41.680 --> 1:54:43.960 you know, he's he's making up a cool chair right 1:54:44.000 --> 1:54:46.960 now and and some cool rugs on his own. But 1:54:47.360 --> 1:54:50.640 you know, when it's Sunday front or Monday, he's watching 1:54:50.640 --> 1:54:52.240 the football game. He loves football. 1:54:53.000 --> 1:54:56.640 You respect losing, so you can understand winning. 1:54:57.160 --> 1:54:57.800 You respect. 1:54:57.800 --> 1:55:02.520 Michael Bennett said that on the pod today, A profound, profound. 1:55:02.800 --> 1:55:05.560 We gotta put that on a crochet that onto a pillow, 1:55:05.920 --> 1:55:08.560 put it on the couch something, because that is that's 1:55:08.560 --> 1:55:09.880 an all time quote from the Nuthouse. 1:55:09.920 --> 1:55:11.400 I love that. Let's put it on a pillow. 1:55:11.440 --> 1:55:15.040 What a guy, I mean, so talented he I'll. 1:55:14.880 --> 1:55:16.640 Make a pillow out of it. 1:55:16.400 --> 1:55:17.880 Studio cre check it out. 1:55:17.920 --> 1:55:21.480 Man, he is one talented dude, and I liked it. 1:55:21.520 --> 1:55:24.720 A man of taste such as himself gave us the 1:55:24.760 --> 1:55:25.200 coast sign. 1:55:25.520 --> 1:55:28.480 He gave me the baby. He saw the Nutthouse. He's like, 1:55:28.520 --> 1:55:32.120 this is tasteful, real recognize real bait. Hey, champagne taste 1:55:32.120 --> 1:55:36.600 with a beer budget. Yeah, facts, champagne taste with a 1:55:36.640 --> 1:55:37.280 beer budget. 1:55:37.320 --> 1:55:38.760 Hey, you got a gum guy, bro, you got that, 1:55:38.800 --> 1:55:39.920 you got that champagne budget. 1:55:39.960 --> 1:55:42.680 Georget George Constana, have a gum guy. 1:55:42.600 --> 1:55:43.080 A gum go. 1:55:43.480 --> 1:55:46.920 I gotta look that up. I should Jerry did here. 1:55:47.000 --> 1:55:49.360 He had a oh yeah, down in like you got dip. 1:55:49.640 --> 1:55:52.600 Yeah that dip guys for years now, But I ain't 1:55:52.640 --> 1:55:55.120 that rich. What's hit the hotline? 1:55:55.240 --> 1:55:55.840 Guys? 1:55:55.880 --> 1:55:59.400 Go again? That number is four two four two nine 1:55:59.480 --> 1:56:01.240 one two two nine zero. 1:56:03.200 --> 1:56:06.360 Hey, Julian, I love your show, but everyone knows the 1:56:06.360 --> 1:56:07.160 greatest game of. 1:56:07.080 --> 1:56:08.360 All time is the Ice Bowl. 1:56:08.480 --> 1:56:09.000 Ice Bowl. 1:56:09.120 --> 1:56:10.839 All a couple of them are still around. 1:56:11.160 --> 1:56:13.920 You need to get some Lombardi era Packers on their 1:56:13.960 --> 1:56:16.520 show to discuss the Ice Bowl. Thank you. 1:56:17.000 --> 1:56:20.920 I agree one hundred zillion percent. We need that. That'd 1:56:20.960 --> 1:56:26.800 be awesome to hear about the Gridiron game that I 1:56:26.880 --> 1:56:30.360 love by one of the founding fathers. 1:56:30.360 --> 1:56:37.960 Nineteen sixty seven, December thirty first Lambeaufield, Baby Green Bay 1:56:38.080 --> 1:56:41.120 Packers Dallas Cowboys twenty one seventeen. 1:56:41.200 --> 1:56:42.280 The Packers edge them out. 1:56:43.120 --> 1:56:47.920 Still the coldest game in NFL history on record minus 1:56:47.960 --> 1:56:49.840 forty eight degrees fahrenheit with the wind shill. 1:56:50.280 --> 1:56:50.680 Remember what. 1:56:50.840 --> 1:56:53.280 That's one of the first games on the ESPN Classic. 1:56:53.320 --> 1:56:53.880 I would watch. 1:56:54.000 --> 1:56:54.520 It was awesome. 1:56:54.520 --> 1:56:57.720 Remember the ton the story were like, the like not 1:56:57.840 --> 1:57:00.760 to make this racial, but the white players were like 1:57:01.560 --> 1:57:03.760 jealous of the black players because the black players could 1:57:03.760 --> 1:57:04.839 wear like gloves. 1:57:05.120 --> 1:57:06.920 They had these like black gloves they could. 1:57:06.720 --> 1:57:08.800 Wear and the coaches couldn't tell it was there, so 1:57:08.840 --> 1:57:11.080 they wear gloves on all the white guy's hands were freezing. 1:57:11.440 --> 1:57:13.000 I wish you would have said that in fort of Michael. 1:57:16.440 --> 1:57:20.080 I don't even know what that means. Everyone you know 1:57:20.120 --> 1:57:20.880 who gold. 1:57:20.640 --> 1:57:23.400 You know who went to this game, was at this game. 1:57:23.640 --> 1:57:28.600 Ernie, probably Willem Dafoe, you know, Willem to the actor, 1:57:29.120 --> 1:57:29.720 I feel. 1:57:29.480 --> 1:57:33.720 Like green Goblin baby, yeah, Goblin, yeah, shout out Florida project. 1:57:33.880 --> 1:57:34.120 He was. 1:57:34.280 --> 1:57:36.840 He was at this game. There's an NFL film story 1:57:36.840 --> 1:57:37.200 about it. 1:57:37.520 --> 1:57:40.040 We gotta get him. Let's get to get him. On 1:57:40.080 --> 1:57:41.880 the top of that screw an old packard. I want 1:57:41.880 --> 1:57:50.280 Will to just go, dude, great question, what a legend, bro. 1:57:50.400 --> 1:57:53.600 We should do some more old old psychos. 1:57:54.880 --> 1:57:55.360 I like that. 1:57:55.400 --> 1:57:57.920 Call h my name is friend. 1:58:00.320 --> 1:58:03.200 I actually want to leave a message for truth his mom. 1:58:04.160 --> 1:58:08.120 I actually met her your rookie year. We set down 1:58:08.200 --> 1:58:12.880 to then earned the back hallways of the stadium. I 1:58:13.040 --> 1:58:16.560 didn't know who she was at first, but we were training. 1:58:16.960 --> 1:58:19.400 We were training, uh, showing each other what we were 1:58:19.600 --> 1:58:22.360 bought at the poor shop and then you came over 1:58:22.440 --> 1:58:23.040 and said hello. 1:58:23.720 --> 1:58:26.000 So say hello to her. 1:58:26.360 --> 1:58:27.920 She's a very very sweet woman. 1:58:29.320 --> 1:58:32.840 Well bent down. Tell my mama hello for you. Bob 1:58:32.920 --> 1:58:38.360 Brens is hello mom to meet loaf Mom. 1:58:38.560 --> 1:58:39.680 What is she doing back there? 1:58:39.840 --> 1:58:41.160 Never know what she's doing? 1:58:43.280 --> 1:58:46.520 Shout out Angiere, she is actually here. 1:58:46.560 --> 1:58:47.280 She's actually here. 1:58:49.560 --> 1:58:55.120 Hi Ju, Hi Kyler, Hi Jack. This is what you 1:58:55.280 --> 1:59:00.600 call it. I'm making a recommendation. I think you guys 1:59:00.640 --> 1:59:04.880 should get Stone Stuston on the pod if you can. 1:59:06.920 --> 1:59:11.720 You literally talked about anything. I think, like football, like 1:59:11.960 --> 1:59:15.360 Texas and you're from Texas or something I don't know, 1:59:15.520 --> 1:59:18.680 or some old matches. I don't care. I just wanted 1:59:18.680 --> 1:59:23.960 to cuss him by on the pod. I love you guys, 1:59:24.040 --> 1:59:27.280 are grabbing you today. I can't wait to listen to 1:59:27.320 --> 1:59:28.160 the pod some more. 1:59:28.760 --> 1:59:33.440 All right, bye, Wow, Whitney, I couldn't agree with you anymore. 1:59:33.680 --> 1:59:36.920 Stone Cold Steve Austin was my favorite wrestler. Same as 1:59:36.960 --> 1:59:39.280 a kid. I used to drink two freaking cokes and 1:59:39.360 --> 1:59:43.240 slam them after And that's the bottom line, because Stone 1:59:43.480 --> 1:59:46.880 Cold said so Austin three sixteen, just. 1:59:46.840 --> 1:59:48.120 Whooped your ass. 1:59:48.480 --> 1:59:52.080 I still remember one of my earliest disappointments kindergarten, Miss 1:59:52.160 --> 1:59:53.040 Henry's class. 1:59:53.200 --> 1:59:54.160 Shout out Miss Henry. 1:59:54.640 --> 1:59:57.120 When I my mom told me I could not go 1:59:57.760 --> 2:00:02.000 as stone Cold Steve Austin for career day. Her point was, 2:00:02.720 --> 2:00:06.040 that's a that's a man, not a career. I still 2:00:06.080 --> 2:00:07.000 don't get the distinction. 2:00:07.640 --> 2:00:08.280 That's bullshit. 2:00:08.360 --> 2:00:09.400 I am so pissed, bro. 2:00:09.920 --> 2:00:13.160 He goes a doctor, a doctor. 2:00:13.480 --> 2:00:15.280 Yeah, I couldn't go with stone Cold Steve Austin for 2:00:15.360 --> 2:00:18.720 career to day. You know what, that's bull I know, Bro, 2:00:19.520 --> 2:00:20.000 I think you. 2:00:19.960 --> 2:00:20.720 Should be able to. 2:00:20.920 --> 2:00:21.240 I know. 2:00:21.640 --> 2:00:23.000 I just have to get him in the nuthouse then, 2:00:23.760 --> 2:00:25.000 you know, my guy, we're gonna have to. 2:00:25.400 --> 2:00:29.080 We might have to start doing some wrestling moves and 2:00:29.080 --> 2:00:31.720 and try to join the w W to prove that 2:00:31.840 --> 2:00:32.520 teacher wrong. 2:00:32.640 --> 2:00:33.760 That's right, bro, just. 2:00:33.680 --> 2:00:35.200 Asking eight year old Jack, what do you want to 2:00:35.200 --> 2:00:36.720 be when he grew up five year old? 2:00:37.400 --> 2:00:39.400 I want to be him. Yeah, what do you mean? 2:00:39.440 --> 2:00:40.280 That's a man. 2:00:40.440 --> 2:00:41.360 That's my career path. 2:00:41.400 --> 2:00:43.240 Baby, you gotta get we gotta get stone Cold on. 2:00:43.320 --> 2:00:46.000 He has to, he'd be electric. I don't want to 2:00:46.240 --> 2:00:47.280 be with him. Is he sober? 2:00:47.720 --> 2:00:49.560 No, he's got his own beer. We've had it. 2:00:49.560 --> 2:00:51.600 We've got to we need to get on the beer. 2:00:52.440 --> 2:00:55.160 And I want to hear I love ar theme music, 2:00:55.160 --> 2:01:00.680 but we're just having the glass shatter everything. Oh Man, Whitney, 2:01:00.720 --> 2:01:01.680 I could not agree more. 2:01:02.200 --> 2:01:04.080 We agree, Whitney. 2:01:04.200 --> 2:01:07.600 We get some let's just say, interesting voicemails that kind 2:01:07.600 --> 2:01:10.520 of start off the same. I'm so glad this one 2:01:11.120 --> 2:01:13.760 went to a better place. Yeah, you know, they're like, 2:01:13.920 --> 2:01:16.840 HI usually goes to a bad place. This one Stone 2:01:16.840 --> 2:01:17.600 called Steve Austin. 2:01:17.920 --> 2:01:19.880 Good place, good place, good place. 2:01:20.160 --> 2:01:22.480 Thee snake always a good place. 2:01:22.840 --> 2:01:26.760 Zang quays world Korean? Right? Is it Korean? 2:01:27.800 --> 2:01:28.600 Was a Filipino? 2:01:30.240 --> 2:01:30.880 Can't can't? 2:01:31.040 --> 2:01:34.160 Can't? Antony's yes, what's your name? Uh? 2:01:34.680 --> 2:01:36.680 Cassandra she rocked? 2:01:36.720 --> 2:01:37.960 Yeah? And what's his name? 2:01:38.040 --> 2:01:40.000 Rob Low was trying to try to usurp. 2:01:40.600 --> 2:01:49.840 Yeah. Yeah. The showfield, well, what a fun game to 2:01:49.920 --> 2:01:54.440 go back down high scoring, high scoring. But that was 2:01:54.440 --> 2:01:57.640 a I forget. I forgot about that game. So it's 2:01:57.680 --> 2:01:59.960 great about this podcast. You get to relive the game again. 2:02:00.600 --> 2:02:04.080 Seriously. Oh and with Mike, what a guy. Michael been 2:02:04.120 --> 2:02:07.560 an awesome guy. Thanks again to Michael Bennett. You know, 2:02:07.600 --> 2:02:09.840 I wish them the best luck with him and his family. 2:02:09.880 --> 2:02:13.720 I'm finding university for his little daughters. He's such a 2:02:13.720 --> 2:02:14.320 family guy. 2:02:14.760 --> 2:02:17.800 Awesome. Nope, Peter spent the day here, but my mom 2:02:17.840 --> 2:02:21.280 didn't wear them out, almost sitting back with them. But 2:02:21.400 --> 2:02:24.600 that's been another episode of Games with Names. Subscribe on 2:02:24.680 --> 2:02:29.040 Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Comment 2:02:29.080 --> 2:02:30.800 a game you want us to do and remember, rate 2:02:30.880 --> 2:02:35.520 and review. Remember to follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, 2:02:35.760 --> 2:02:39.560 x TikTok, and snapchat. 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