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Speaker 1: Immediately after that game in locker room, it was shocked,

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Speaker 1: Why did we not run it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that was what everybody was thinking.

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Speaker 1: Was that was that everyone's mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he still thinks. I think that's one.

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Speaker 2: He would probably never say that, but I did. I

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Speaker 2: wonders if what happened if you just ran the ball? Right?

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Speaker 2: I think most likely could did two quarterback sneaks? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That sorry that I'm thankful that they ran.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack

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Speaker 1: and Kyler, and we are on the mission to find

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Speaker 1: the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen NFC Championship game between the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers and the Seattle Seahawks, with eleven year NFL VET

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, three time Pro bowler and former teammate

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Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, we get into talking the story behind his

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Speaker 1: pads or lack thereof.

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Speaker 2: And my show up pass are super small. I enjoyed

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Speaker 2: it though, you know, everybody'd be like, how'd you even

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Speaker 2: every game? They'd be like, like, I don't care about

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Speaker 1: His fight with Rob Gronkowski in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Oh not just like man, they won, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, let's fight.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And what it's like to

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Speaker 1: play for Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick and Seattle.

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Speaker 2: They never really called out like Russell on certain things,

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Speaker 2: but like, but Bill will call talk him out on everything.

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Speaker 2: How's a guy who's been the MVP four times? This

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Speaker 2: fucking route right here, and you're just back there like

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Speaker 2: dam going off with Tom Brady right now, and.

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Speaker 1: Then we hit the old hot line. You gotta stick

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Speaker 1: around to the very end. Let's go Games with Names

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Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio. January eighteenth, twenty fifteen, Century

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Speaker 1: League Field, Seattle, Washington, but.

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Speaker 2: Back to back Super Bowls on the line. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: throws a pick down two scores with five minutes.

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Speaker 1: The Packers have a ninety nine point three percent probability

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Speaker 1: to win. So you're telling me there's a chance, there's

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Speaker 1: always a chance.

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Speaker 2: This is the.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four NFC Championship game. Yeah, it's so hard to

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Speaker 1: explain a football, American football game to someone who's never

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Speaker 1: seen it, like international. Yeah, because I have a couple

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Speaker 1: of people that you know, you have these international friends

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Speaker 1: you meet and they're like, oh, football, what is that?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, you guys stop every play. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's very strategic. You gotta get ten yards and

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Speaker 1: The ball exchange when kicking is always confusing to them.

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Speaker 1: Why are you doing this?

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Speaker 2: They don't understand nothing. You try to get them.

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Speaker 1: Like it has grown though.

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Speaker 2: I'll get confused on rugby too because I don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, but why would you want to get hit

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Speaker 1: Don't they make money in other countries though Rugby like Australian, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're always like looking at the four of yourself like like, damn,

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Speaker 2: I should have been a race.

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Speaker 1: Car driver, bro, I don't know if you could fit

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Speaker 2: No, but it had been the first. You know, they

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Speaker 1: It's a weight thing.

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Speaker 1: Freaking the Bennetts. I mean, this is the kind of

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Speaker 1: ship that Marty was saying the offensive team meeting. When

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Speaker 1: Well that's not an ASCAR Formula one. Yeah, those guys

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Speaker 1: to Games with Names. Today we are talking the twenty

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the studio, Michael Bennett.

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Speaker 2: Nice to be here, man, This is a nice studio,

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Speaker 2: though I don't think people were real live high nice.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is it's like you're surrounded by wood right now.

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Speaker 2: It feels very warm.

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Speaker 1: You know, if that comes from you a man who's

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Speaker 1: it means I'm doing something.

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Speaker 2: Now, you're doing something right, beat to a lot of

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Speaker 2: athletes's houses, and like sometime like just because you got money,

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Speaker 2: don't mean you got taste. You know, we'll take it.

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Speaker 1: Well, the nuthouses got taste, That's right, the definitely got taste,

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Speaker 1: all right. So in one sentence, why did you pick

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Speaker 2: I would say maybe one word grit. I think it

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Speaker 2: A lot of times people get into those moments where

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Speaker 2: And like every once in a while you look around

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Speaker 1: That's that's probably one of the best one sentence answers

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Speaker 1: that we've gotten on.

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Speaker 2: This hands down.

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Speaker 1: That's a football freaking answer. Now, it is just the

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Speaker 2: Nah, not the greatest game of all time. Maybe my

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's purely office and it's purely defense. It feels

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Speaker 2: Like you look at Patrick Mahomes last year. It's just

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Speaker 2: the game of football is just great by itself.

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Speaker 1: Another great answer but I did hear one thing. Last

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's important. I think people overlook defense.

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Speaker 1: Hey, defense wins championship.

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Speaker 2: That's right, baby, Offense score ports. But you gotta have

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta make one stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the point of having a big pool with

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Speaker 1: What's the point of having a big pool with the

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Speaker 2: You jump in that bitch and but your head wide

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Speaker 1: No, water is like blood sport. You can make it

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Speaker 2: Now remember that?

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Speaker 1: Oh A love that fighted the pools that are half done.

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Speaker 2: And kickboxing when he was kicking that tree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw some chick doing that. I think she

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Speaker 2: People don't really give Joue club down, his his his

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Speaker 2: in like nineteen nineteen or something that Time Cop. No, No,

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Speaker 2: it's not Time Cop. It's the one where they were, like,

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Speaker 2: Double Impact. No, it's the one where they were there

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Speaker 2: Thailand and he learned how to fight the kickboxer. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not Kickboxer. Same premise, though they are. I they were.

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Speaker 2: My favorite movie about him was Cyborg, though.

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Speaker 1: I liked Universal Soldiers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about Universe soci Yeah, I was. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's like we need to give him, so give him

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Speaker 1: Like he was flexible, freaking yoked. Yeah, he could do

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Speaker 1: all them. There was. Every one of those movies had

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Speaker 2: But you don't speculate it. You don't even watch it

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Speaker 2: then the double double, the double kick where he like

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Speaker 1: He and the split.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that one, that one.

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Speaker 1: I mean he did it in like at least six

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Speaker 2: It that movie. Yeah, he should have been in UFC,

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, those guys will choke them out.

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Speaker 2: No, But the other guy was like him too though,

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Speaker 2: but he people forgot about that guy too, the guy from.

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Speaker 1: Canada, Saint Pierre.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, remember him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a monster.

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Speaker 2: He was a monster, but he didn't Unfortunately he didn't

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Speaker 2: it was still knew, Like Conor McGregor, like he made

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Speaker 1: A huge thing that catapulted in the UFC. Though he

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Speaker 1: Dana come on and talk about it, and he was

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Speaker 1: world's success. So clearly nowadays your daily life schedules watching

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Speaker 2: Average day? I wake up, make myself a a barista,

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Speaker 1: That little the little tree they make is not easy.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's you learning. It's like and I think

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Speaker 2: It's like I think in the NFL, like what they say,

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Speaker 1: We miss the years that she really god damn smart

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Speaker 2: But but that's what I'm saying, It's so much about

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Speaker 2: think that was kind of where we kind of like

439
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 2: played football and we want to be Alvin Harper, want

440
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 2: to be everybody the Cowboys. I grew up, my favorite

441
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 2: team was Tempa Bay, so I was was was like

442
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 2: Tempa Bay, Temple Bay. Why. I just love defense. I

443
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 2: love one set Rendez, Barber, everybody, John Lynch, Brooks, Shelton,

444
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:31,920
Speaker 2: Dereck brook Barber, Yeah, Barber, Uh great expires, Like just

445
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 2: had tons of people like Mike Aslock. John said, like

446
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 2: you know everybody, John Gruden, you know what I mean,

447
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 2: before John Gruden got hit with the racist thing. But

448
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, hey, you know.

449
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: You know it happened.

450
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, John, I mean you never said anything to me,

451
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 2: but you know, but but I just loved, loved the

452
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: Temple Bay. It was a defense, you know. So like

453
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: seeing all those guys rush the passer, Warren Sapp and

454
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: just everybody Boogermint Farland like those my team. So I

455
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 2: just run Tampa two all the time, Tampa to Tampa two.

456
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 1: Man.

457
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 2: That's all I ever did. Then Bliss Ronde Barber.

458
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everyone what years were those I was

459
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: on the cover, wasn't he?

460
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 6: Yeah?

461
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: I believe.

462
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out money Kiff and Tampa to baby Oh

463
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 4: yeah money that defensive.

464
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 2: Uh tree though, Like sometimes when I when I played

465
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: for Tampa Bay, like when I used to go up

466
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: there and look at that tree, like dangn who Tony Dungee.

467
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 2: Rahie Moore is he.

468
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: Was head coach there for a second. Yeah, he's the

469
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 1: head coach, but he's also like twenty two years old too.

470
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 2: He was also a part of like the younger tree,

471
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, like looking back when they just had all

472
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: the extra coaches like you uh and then they had uh, Tomland,

473
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: they had, they had who else they had? They had

474
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: so many coaches on that team. But it was just

475
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: crazy when you just go up there and see herm Edwards.

476
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 2: It's just like a lot of great people on that

477
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: team that were coaches, and you like look back at

478
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 2: like they not only did they have a Hall of

479
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: Fame staff of have a Hall of Fame players, but

480
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: they also had Hall of Fame staff and coaches. Like

481
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: all those guys became head coaches and made their own

482
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 2: impact in the game. Like Mike Tumblin has been coaching

483
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: the same same game, same team.

484
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 1: You know, had lost and that a losing season. Yeah,

485
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: been pretty impressible with no offense this year. Yeah, it's

486
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 1: been crazy. Are you still watching ball man?

487
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 2: Come on, I love football. I watch football like I

488
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: watch on YouTube though.

489
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, just the highlights that watched the tim like I

490
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 7: got to get the twelve minutes and twelve minute, Yeah,

491
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 7: get the twelve minutes off it Like it's like, like

492
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, like the two hours, three

493
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 7: hours of watching one game.

494
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have Sometimes I'll do if

495
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: it's like a really cute game.

496
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 4: That was my first thought when you were living in Wales,

497
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 4: like how do you watch ball?

498
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: I watch it later on I get to go to

499
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: the beach and do all the earthly things, and then

500
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: I come back and be.

501
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, how is it living in Hawaii? Bro? I

502
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: love it, man, It's gonna be amazing.

503
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: It's super It's a I think while I was playing

504
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 2: in an NFL made a lot of sense to like,

505
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 2: you know how the season is kind of hectic and

506
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: it's just like reboot. Yeah, it's like a reboot. And

507
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: then sometimes you go back, you like how did you

508
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: even do that? Like how did you even like like

509
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: it felt like just like a whirl when when you

510
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: think about it, like you really just getting up to

511
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: get beat up again and then to get meat up

512
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: again and again, like you go back, You're like that

513
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 2: was kind of amazing, like for us to like go

514
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: through all that, but like being Hawaii after the season

515
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: would always be grounding with my family and like and

516
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: then like living there just made a lot of sense

517
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: after I just stayed there really because it's just a

518
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: beautiful place. It's beautiful people. People are really nice to everybody,

519
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: you know. It's very family oriented type of place.

520
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: So the Hawaiian culture is so fascinating to me. I

521
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: grew up in the Bay, so we grew up around

522
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: a lot of Pacific islanders like Tongue and Samoa and Hawaiian.

523
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: I went to Samatos so there was always the Hawaiians

524
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: that came over, and like, I never got to experience

525
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: it until about two years ago. That was the first

526
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: time I ever went to Hawaii and I was like, man,

527
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: people are so nice. Their culture they are They're very

528
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: traditional with a lot of like their old old like

529
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: hundreds and thousands of year generation like culture traditions are

530
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: still intact and stuff, and they're they're warm people.

531
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are like.

532
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: The most loving, coolest people. Don't know, if they're on

533
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: a different football team, they'll rip your head off.

534
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

535
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: But if if you're there, boy, they love you.

536
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: They love you.

537
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: I love you.

538
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: That's all luck about it too. It's like it's always

539
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: that thing that's always really complicated when it comes to culture.

540
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: Because how do you take culture and also fast forward

541
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: to make it modern? And I think sometimes, like you

542
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 2: find ways of Hawaii does a good job of it

543
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: being able to play homage to the past but also

544
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: living the present and kind of talk about the future

545
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: what the island will kind of feel like. So I

546
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: think when you think about the politics of all that,

547
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: it's super hard to keep a culture in tact over

548
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: years and years and years and generations, right, And I

549
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: think that's what makes Why really cool because they do that,

550
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: you know, and all the little things and nature, the

551
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: trees and learning certain Hawaiian words, similar to the New Zealand.

552
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: New Zealand's like that too. When you go to New Zealand,

553
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: it's kind of like the Mari culture and like they

554
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: kind of keep it in Morocco too, Like you in

555
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: Morocco and you're like, well, I guess a lot of

556
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: good places that really have culture like that. You know,

557
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 2: you think about it, like the Moroccan Tito. I used

558
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: to love Moroccan Tito. I realized it was just sugar.

559
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: I was like, God, damn, three cubes of sugar for one.

560
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: I never had it.

561
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Shirt tea.

562
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: That's a lot like sweet tea.

563
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: It's beyond sweet tea. It's beyond sweet tea.

564
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: It is roc and Tea. We're gonna check it out.

565
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the guy smiles at you, You're like, whoa,

566
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: he has no teeth.

567
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: It's probably because more sugar.

568
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 2: You're like, nah, no, end up like that. No, I'm good,

569
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm good. Now.

570
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: You were undrafted? What was it like getting your break

571
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: into the league?

572
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: Man? That was super hard though, because it's like being undrafted.

573
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: It's just like it's the hardest thing because you it's

574
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: like you get the last rep. It's like everybody eating,

575
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: they'd be like, what's left over? You'd be like, damn,

576
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: there a little crumbs there. Yeah, like y'all just left

577
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: the tail of the chicken wing. So it's like it

578
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: was just really complicated because it's one of those things

579
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: where you have to like really go as hard as

580
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: you can every single practice. Every single practice is a

581
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: championship game for you, every single moment, to the point

582
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: where people have to tell you to slow down. You

583
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, Nah, I've seen rookies in

584
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: there and they kind of like, you know, real real

585
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: Lackaday's a cool and like real cool. You know back

586
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: then it was like nah, I was like you had

587
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: to get it, get it how you live, and it

588
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: was like out the mud. So like being un drafted,

589
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: it just had to switch my mindset to realize that

590
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: every single moment counted, every single play would count, every

591
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: tugicle thing that I would studying, like, it couldn't be

592
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: one of those things where I would, you know, go

593
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: into the game not being fully prepared. It was like

594
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: man at practice, I had to watch film and I

595
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: think that made me a better player as I got older,

596
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: because it was like I took those save my ideas

597
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: and it just became a part of my identity. Is Yeah,

598
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: so that's really what really what it comes down to

599
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: and drafted is just you have to make your mind

600
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: up to like or being even you know, being a

601
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: six or seven round is pretty much the same thing.

602
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: I was right there with you.

603
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: You got a bigger bonus, but you don't have the

604
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: opportunities are the same, you know, like the.

605
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Opportunity of the same, and it's almost worse to go

606
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: in the six or seventh because you're locked down for

607
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, when you're a free agent, you only

608
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: have two Yeah, that's true. So like it's cool to

609
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: get a forty nine thousand dollars check, which whatever it's

610
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: it was a lot of money to me at that time. Yeah,

611
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: but it's the same.

612
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: You know, that's a vacation for some people.

613
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: I thought I was rich after that.

614
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: I did too. I did.

615
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: I got forty nine racks. Did spend a dollar of it.

616
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: I said, I'm keeping this in a bank account.

617
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: And you feel like a different person.

618
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Like a different person.

619
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: But I think that's the really challenging part of the game.

620
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: But I kind of I missed that old NFL. I

621
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: mean I don't miss the concussions that everybody got, but

622
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: I do miss like the like the practices and like

623
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: the mount of contact, like you know, just out there

624
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: just really playing.

625
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's we all, anyone who played that game.

626
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: We all have a little something missing. Yeah, and you

627
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: know the crave contact. You know, that's I used to.

628
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean that's something you always miss, just competing against

629
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: another guy. We're at your best and he's at his best.

630
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't shot away from that. I remember like

631
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: going against like Walter Jones and like my hip still

632
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: heard from Walter Jones and he pushed me my hip

633
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: board time, so damn walk but wat was a Hall

634
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: of Famer. But it was so good to go up

635
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: against Walt and like learn or like been in my

636
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: first years in Tampa where he had like Jeremy truebla

637
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: Devin called Knicks, you know, Donald Penn, you know Jeremy Zutah,

638
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: like that was the offensive line. So like every single

639
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: day in practice, I was like, man, I was like,

640
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to get my reps because it made me

641
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: such a better player, Like going against Carl Nicks. Car

642
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: Nicks was like the best guard. If he never would

643
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: have had a toe surgery, he would have been the

644
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: first battle of Hall of Famer and like, so like

645
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: going against those guys every single day would just make

646
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: me a better player. But I joyed that you had

647
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: guys that would like hide against the best players. I

648
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: don't want to go against.

649
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Carl, you know, I want to you know what I mean,

650
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: without a doubt.

651
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: They want to look good. But like even a loss

652
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: against Carl was like almost a win, you know, because

653
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: when you start winning, you like I'm ready, you know

654
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: what I mean, I'm ready, Like Jeff Fane and all

655
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: those guys, Like it was kind of like dope to

656
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: go against those guys when I was there.

657
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: That's the battle within the battle, like what he's talking

658
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: about right now. The wins in practice, you count those.

659
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: When you're a late round guy or you're an undrafted guy,

660
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: you count every play you had, was it a win

661
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: or was it a loss? Because that's exactly what the

662
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: goddamn coaches are doing. So it was like it's life

663
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: or death. It literally is like life or death every

664
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: freaking rep you got in, Like you have to control

665
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: your emotion because you didn't know there's only three reps

666
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: every week. Maybe then you might.

667
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Get and similar to you, I had to do the

668
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: same thing where it was like I had to learn

669
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: more skills, you know what I'm saying. Like, so I

670
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: had to learn how to play inside. I had to

671
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: learn how to play nose. I had to learn how

672
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: to play whatever they wanted me to play, the versatility.

673
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: So I was actually thankful for that because they gave

674
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: me a longer career, right because you have to learn

675
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: how to do all those things. You have to be

676
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: a good blocker, Like you can't be there, you know

677
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You can't come in and be like

678
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be good on blocking. I'm gonna be

679
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: good only on slant routes, you know what I'm saying.

680
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: And it's like you have to learn all those skills

681
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: to become a better player. And I think that was

682
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: something that really helped me kind of grow as an

683
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: NFL talent.

684
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: When was the moment you felt like you made it? Like,

685
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: when did you feel comfortable? Because I know the first

686
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: few years. I lived that for five years, right, I

687
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: thought I was getting cut every year.

688
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: I thought I was getting cut every year too. I

689
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: feel like the first time I actually felt like second year,

690
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: second year Seattle. I feel like every year before that,

691
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: I just had like maniacs man attitude, like man, I'm

692
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: getting cut, you know what I'm saying. Even though I

693
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: was out there starting like I was a first round tender,

694
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like I was still

695
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: like making plays, but I still was always like, man,

696
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: I was undrafted, why would they know?

697
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Wh would they keep me in security?

698
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: And then also they also have they also drafted people

699
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: every year every and you beat them out every year.

700
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You like, dang, It's like

701
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: I guess like when I got to Seattle. I feel

702
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: like I kind of belonged a little bit. I feel

703
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: like that was the first time I like my time

704
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: in Tempa was really good because I feel like if

705
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: my defensive line would have stayed together and didn't get health,

706
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: did get hurt like Gerald and Adrian Claiborne, and we

707
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: stayed together for longer, we probably would have did what

708
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: we were supposed to do. Because we had a really

709
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: good team in Tampa, Like we had a key to leave.

710
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: We had Keller Winslow before you know, yeah it King's

711
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: the best teammate. King was the best team man nice

712
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: and neat. We had a lot of good people on

713
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: that team and we and so, but we didn't we

714
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: didn't win. But being in Seattle was like there was

715
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: like a lot of like minded people. When I got there,

716
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: I was like, man, like, it's camp. Like the team.

717
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: It was like we're just jail. Like we all had

718
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: to say mattitude.

719
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was apparent we'll dive in more

720
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: of the team. But let's get let's get into this segment.

721
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break.

722
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 8: Hey hey, hey, it's Rob Gronkowski here and I'm with

723
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 8: my bro or my dude, Jules.

724
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: And we are super excited to tell you about our

725
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: new show, Dudes on Dudes.

726
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: We're just regular dudes as well.

727
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 8: Sometimes we can't read, sometimes we can't speak properly, but.

728
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: That's what dudes do.

729
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: But Dudes on Dudes, seriously, who named this?

730
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 8: Anyways, we're spilling all the behind scenes stories, crazy details,

731
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 8: and honestly just having a blast talking football.

732
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times,

733
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: from legends to our buddies to current stars.

734
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 8: And the best part, we're finally answering the age old

735
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 8: question what kind of dudes are these dudes?

736
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: Is Travis Kelce a stud or a freak? Is Tom

737
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: Brady a dog or dude's dude? We're gonna find out

738
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: every episode drops every Thursday during the NFL season. Those

739
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: are some good questions right there, Julian.

740
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 8: We're gonna find out soon and watch us on YouTube,

741
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 8: listen wherever you listen to podcasts, and of course, follow

742
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 8: us all over social media.

743
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: So hit that subscribe button, follow us everywhere and join

744
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: the dude party. You don't want to miss this. Dudes

745
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: on Dudes, Let's go whoa this segment we go back

746
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: in time when the game took place. This game took

747
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: place January eighteenth, twenty fifteen. Always messes up because it

748
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 1: was a twenty fourteen season, but it's a playoff game,

749
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: so it's in twenty fifteen.

750
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: That's right.

751
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Number one movie American Sniper. Did you ever see it?

752
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: Of course?

753
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: That was a good one. Sad at the.

754
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: End, sad at the end. I wasn't expecting that. I wouldn't.

755
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone was that. It was badass though, Yeah,

756
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: but how badass was the other guy too? Doing it

757
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: like nikes?

758
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know. It's so crazy though, because everybody always

759
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 2: giving me Sniper. People always give this snipers the credit,

760
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: but I always think that they the spotter is the

761
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: most deailiest person.

762
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Because he could see us.

763
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: No, because the Spider really talks another guy into killing somebody.

764
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: The spotter, who's your spotterer guy?

765
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: That should be just understanding. I understand. The spider guy's like, hey,

766
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: he's right there on the forty five. If you want

767
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: to pull the trigger now, you can, or you can

768
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: do it at thirty two degrees to the left and

769
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: you blow his brains out this way. It'll be a

770
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: lot of blood on the ground. But you know, like, hey,

771
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: no blood on my hands. I didn't pull the trigger. Like,

772
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: the spider is pretty dangerous if you think about it.

773
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: He's just he's just calling he's just calling the shots.

774
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: The shots.

775
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: Literally, Jack's your spider.

776
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: I got you. Bro went a little bit of it.

777
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Let him fly Man.

778
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: That movie was crazy. The number one song was up

779
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: Town Funk by Bruto Mars featuring Mark Ronson, Ronson Ronson.

780
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: That was that was a good song.

781
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Though he was like all over this the Grammys this year.

782
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: And this was the year, but this was the year

783
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: for the music year.

784
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: That was a fun year. Went to I went to

785
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: the I remember him performing and I think he performed

786
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: it at that huh.

787
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: Him and Malcolm macol reason.

788
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, damn that hurt more now, Sorry, Bro, dudes,

789
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 2: run the ball. No but true Detective. I love that show.

790
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: My god, was this the best one? Yeah? I don't know.

791
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: What's your favorite season?

792
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

793
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: Third one is not bad but bad.

794
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that was not bad. The first one was the

795
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: best because it was more that far. Yeah. The last

796
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: one was not bad, but it kind of like they

797
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: like almost made it too spooky for still watching. Yeah,

798
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: it wasn't bad, but to get in there. Matthew McConaughey,

799
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: what you hear? So that's how anytime those two people

800
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: are anywhere that sounds like a good time, it's gonna

801
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: be there. Matthew McConaughey, Oh, y'all be there. You know,

802
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: Like that's that.

803
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: Makes you want to think they're brothers.

804
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: Really, there's like a lyric, there's there's lore that they're brothers.

805
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 9: If you look at it dad happening around there that

806
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 9: they conferred that maybe there's some stuff going on.

807
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: I think they could be brothers.

808
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: Wow. You ever see wood in Hawaii? No? Oh, okay,

809
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: that's right now with my bad.

810
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: So this was also when this when this movie came

811
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: out or this show, This was like the first big

812
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: show where like movie actors I felt were going in

813
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: doing the HBO shows that were like movie actors. I'm like,

814
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: what they're doing a TV show? Yeah, I don't remember

815
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: any other time before this where you saw that.

816
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 9: It's not the first, but it's definitely early. It was

817
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 9: early won Oscar and Emmy same year.

818
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean.

819
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Carrie Oh yeah, like his camera

820
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: angles that one scene where they went into the trap

821
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: house and it was like running through in that camera

822
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: was like on his back and it was like that.

823
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: It was like he was catching everything that was happening

824
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: and then like it was like fast forward and time forward.

825
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: It was just like very incredible integrity the art.

826
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: The art is crazy, bro, Like you think about.

827
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: The integrity of the art, I'm gonna write a book

828
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: about your integrity of the art. Post below drops White

829
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Iverson on SoundCloud. That was a pregame that.

830
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: Changed white America. That changed white America. That was like

831
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: that was like postmark, but he changed though, Like now

832
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: he's like it's like at old country.

833
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Music, the country He's hit a whole lot of different race.

834
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: He has no tattoos right there. He like literally like

835
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: crazy crazy, like he's like he's a country music but

836
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: White ivers Son he changed. That changed white America. Eminem

837
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: no eminem. It was like a different type of white America.

838
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: He was still like dirty shoes white America. Like this

839
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 2: is like clean air force ones like throw a little

840
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: chain on, Like yeah, that was like that was like

841
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: now it's cool.

842
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: He changed it.

843
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: He changed it, man, shout out post.

844
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: It was on your pregame mix, pregame mix, Little Boosy,

845
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: Little Boosy, Yeah, that's it, little Boosy jay z Rick Ross.

846
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: That makes me laugh though, because like White America, like

847
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: you be in the stadium they be playing those songs

848
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: and you just be like, I don't think they know

849
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: what that actually means. Like like I remember like being

850
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: in Texas A and M and they would be playing

851
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Rick Ross Push It to the Limit. I'd be like,

852
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: do y'all know he's talking about cocaine right now? You know?

853
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: Like it's like push it to that limit? And then

854
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: like this is yeah, they like they're playing this and

855
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: their kids go home like, Dad, didn't you hear about this?

856
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: Push It to the limit. They're like like what is

857
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: this like? But it's so funny because they played in

858
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: the stadium and the music be so like they don't

859
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: get the content in it. Yeah, Like or maybe they do.

860
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm the fool man that could be that too.

861
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: Maybe they did. Shake Shack goes public. I wish I

862
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: could have invested in that.

863
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Are you a Shakeshack guy?

864
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: I like Shakeshack, but I wish I would have been

865
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: a more important moment if I would have actually put

866
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: some money into it.

867
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: Did you have an opportunity.

868
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. That would have been all

869
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: the time. I's like Tom Brady is the only person

870
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: that gets those opportunities. I mean, he's always in the

871
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: right rooms the other death and he has six million

872
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: dollars for watches for so I was like, damn tem Berter,

873
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: you got six million dollars. It's just the ones you're selling,

874
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: you know, That's what I was thinking in my head.

875
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean at this point in his career, he already

876
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: had three Super Bowls.

877
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was in the meeting when they were

878
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: like we got to stay called shakeshack.

879
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean he probably been in a lot

880
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: of them rooms. Yeah, He's also been in some rooms

881
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: where those investments didn't go well.

882
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: The insider trading didn't they off. I forgot about that,

883
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 2: But that sound like a good idea though, Like it's

884
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: sound like a good idea when he first did it, probably.

885
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: It's like are you are you a burger guy?

886
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I love burgers. Like if my wife gets mad

887
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: at me sometimes when I go out the country and

888
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: I'm just like trying to find the best burger and

889
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: god damn China or some shit, you know, She's like,

890
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: they're not gonna have it, Michael, but I keep trying.

891
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: Though Japan probably hasn't seen burgers, Japan.

892
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Does have some good burgers. They do. I think they

893
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: had the overall, Yeah they did. I didn't like the

894
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: burgers and London is okay. But they gotta they can't

895
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: have this rule that they got to cut ground beef

896
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: all the way to the could end.

897
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't have you Like, what do you like

898
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: your burger? Medium?

899
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: Medium plus?

900
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I like medium plus. I like that.

901
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, medium plus.

902
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted a little.

903
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Pink and then I and I'll leave a steak place.

904
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: If they'll know what medium plus is, I just get

905
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: up and leave. It's not a steak place. Guys, I

906
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: know what medium plus is. Bring up the bring off

907
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 2: the guy in the bag.

908
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: It's not medium. Well, but it's not me.

909
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: I gotta pull up on the phone. There is a

910
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: medium plus. He's right here, just right here on the

911
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: steak chart on Pinterest. You know, like, well, you gots

912
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: you gotta go off on them like that, like because

913
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: they don't.

914
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: In the sports World twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, Aaron Rodgers

915
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: was the MVP boy.

916
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in this game he was, he was

917
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: in this game he lost.

918
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: He hit you guys with one of those Cadence touchdowns.

919
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. He always does that. It didn't worked

920
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: though last week though they.

921
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Got to coach coaches. Not there no more for a

922
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: say something about.

923
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

924
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

925
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know, man, I don't know,

926
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like he said something. He

927
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: tried to make us feel like, you know what I'm saying, like,

928
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: definitely something. I believe that that thing doesn't happen without

929
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers having a little part and make a decision

930
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: on that, right, you know what I'm saying, like or

931
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: that that is something people have been thinking about. But

932
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: to be fair, to run the Jets, but roberta Robert Solla, like,

933
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: I mean, they took the quarterback from what's his name?

934
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 2: I forget think he's he's out the league right now.

935
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: I didn't like him anyway.

936
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Didn't like Wilson.

937
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: I didn't like his haircut. It was something about his haircut.

938
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's pretty.

939
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: He was a baby of the post malone era.

940
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely that post malone.

941
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: Baby killed him. He should have been a baby of Like.

942
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: He's Mormon too, right, Zach Wilson, Yeah, I think he's Mormon.

943
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: That was that was the beginning of the end right there.

944
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 2: Like they just could never get the quarterback situation right,

945
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: and they thought going with Watch mccallay, with Aaron Rodgers.

946
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: They wanted the big name so bad. But it's like

947
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: there's been so many great quarterbacks that they missed out on.

948
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. God damn, you know, it's just CJ. Straw

949
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: like like you know what I'm.

950
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: Saying, Like Sam Donald's in the room, he's killing it now.

951
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got dropped about him too. Yeah, they missed,

952
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: but they missed. But to be fair to Sam Donald,

953
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: like it's unfair to put certain quarterbacks in certain situations

954
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: without the proper office on line and then also with

955
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: the proper person development, like you got developed, like like

956
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: lucky to say, Donald, he's into a situation where he's

957
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: probably primed to be where he needs to be to

958
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: make the next situation. I mean, you look at some

959
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: of these other quarterbacks that maybe had one good year

960
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: and then after that they don't they don't turn out

961
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: to be any good. It's like sometimes the preparation as

962
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: a quarterback allows you to develop a lot better and

963
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: understand the game a lot faster. Like you know, like

964
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: they can't make the right throws. The NFL is getting

965
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: a lot faster. They're paying a quarterback so much that

966
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: they don't even pay the office line. You're lucky if

967
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: you have a good office lineman. Now as a high

968
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: paid quarterback.

969
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cap keeps on going up so and and

970
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: now they're just they're given a percentage of the cap

971
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Yeah, now it's different, you know what

972
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean? Now, what are they getting like twenty percent

973
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: of the cap?

974
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: You know at the beginning of the year when they

975
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: bring that ANFLPA and they did a little cap chart

976
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: you remember that.

977
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they show like what teams had.

978
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: What's this percentage of your team on a dispendage, And

979
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: it's always like.

980
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 5: Wow, like but you know when you look at that

981
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: percentage and like this this is the PA used to

982
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 5: come in roughly every year at the same time to

983
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 5: give us the information that wasn't associated with the team.

984
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: So we'd have a players Association meeting with the PA

985
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: leadership that would come into the facility that would nothing

986
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: to do with the team and they would show us

987
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: all this stuff.

988
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they show us the chart off where a team

989
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: is spending the money. And like whenever you saw like

990
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: the defensive office on line is one of the highest

991
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: pay you like, the team is probably good, you know

992
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like like the yeah, if the team

993
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: had like like damn office line, like you like, they're

994
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: a pretty good thirty team, you know what I mean.

995
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: And like usually you can only do that when you

996
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: have a good young quarterback like a Russell Wilson.

997
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: About Patrick Mahomes and and that line they got Tony

998
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: who's one of the highest paid exactly.

999
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Patrick Mahomes at this point, like what does

1000
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: money even mean to him? Like there's at the end

1001
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: of this thing, he'll be the first player probably to

1002
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: ever reach a billion dollars through just purely sports in

1003
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: football for real, He's going to He's the best player

1004
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: that we've seen come out the draft and the only

1005
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: player to I would say that Lamar Jackson is the

1006
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: best athlete we've seen in many years. But the best

1007
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: player I would say is by far Patrick Mahomes.

1008
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's not even close to anymore.

1009
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: And hey, the game.

1010
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: He does, but he's also tapered his game and he's

1011
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: become a disciplined football player, where early in his career

1012
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: he was all about hero ball. It's been way more

1013
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: impressive these last three years, last two years where he's

1014
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: reinvented himself and had the discipline to take what the

1015
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: defense gives him, play to the strength of his team,

1016
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: which is the defense, and not make the mistakes which

1017
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: he's made interceptions this year. But he's still put his

1018
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: team in situation is to always win like Patrick Mahomes,

1019
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: which Lamar doesn't do. Anytime it is a third down

1020
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: and the team needs it, whether it's four minute when

1021
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: they need to seal the game or they need to

1022
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: get the drive going to continue the game, he makes

1023
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: that play. And that's what the greats do. Right now,

1024
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Lamar hasn't done it. Blitz zero has killed them. I'm

1025
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: in the TV, I'm watching the film as of late

1026
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: the Lamar like he can't. He hasn't. That's why he

1027
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: hasn't won super Bowls yet. The only guy who does

1028
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: it at consistent rate all the time is fucking Patrick.

1029
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: But also to be fair to Lamar Lamar Jackson, is

1030
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: that every single play call that's being designed with Andy

1031
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Reid at the helm.

1032
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: That's true.

1033
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: They play there's always a check down receiver coming out.

1034
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: There's always a way for him to get rid of

1035
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: the ball and sometimes with sometimes with Lamar Jackson on

1036
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: a third. Yeah, you think about the blitz zero is

1037
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: like those those those coming like they're his receivers. Like

1038
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I think them.

1039
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Actually last two seasons have come down to blitz zero.

1040
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. And like sometimes the receivers aren't

1041
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: really well versed in the game.

1042
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: Let's get a freaking playing coach like when when in

1043
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, in two thousand.

1044
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: But Derek Henry's changing that because Dereck Henry gets in

1045
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: the opportunity to do less plays.

1046
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm not worried right now. I'm not like right now,

1047
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: it's regular season, and I think.

1048
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: They never had Derek Henry. I think Derek Henry in

1049
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs. As you see, the NFL's get to a

1050
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: place where I saw some players against the Broncos, not

1051
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: the Broncos, the Buffalo Bills that I for sure saw

1052
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: people not tackle, not tackle bus decisions they were they

1053
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: were life decisions.

1054
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: And it's not even cold yet it's not even cold out.

1055
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: They did not want to.

1056
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: Tapen until it gets and you have to tack.

1057
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. I think, what with Henry,

1058
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: the game is going to change for the Ravens and

1059
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: a player, but.

1060
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Their defense isn't what it was. But I think it's

1061
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: a struggle bus right now.

1062
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the first two games, the first two games,

1063
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: they didn't get a ball to Derek Ry. They didn't

1064
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: know how to use him. Then they then they that

1065
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: third like well he is Derek Henry, and then they

1066
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: just started like pounding it and pounding it like in

1067
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs in December. I need to see Derek Henry

1068
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: with thirty plus carries every game.

1069
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: But maybe they didn't do it at first so they

1070
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: could taper off the carries for the older fella.

1071
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: No, he's the way he eats and the way he's

1072
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: doing He's a different type of athlete.

1073
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: But I think, who's the craziest athlete you ever saw

1074
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: in the locker room that You're like, this dude's a

1075
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: specimen Like.

1076
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: Is Percy Harvin?

1077
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin pound for pound spect.

1078
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: Specimen man like that guy, Percy Harvey. Like people forget

1079
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: about person.

1080
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: He was a month touchdown back in the Super Bowl

1081
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: with you guys.

1082
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: Percy Harvin was like one of the best athletes I've

1083
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: ever seen. You know Josh Freeman too. Josh Freeman was

1084
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: a crazy athlete too.

1085
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Hernandez used to tell me that Percy Harvin was the

1086
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: best athlete he ever seen. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have

1087
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: said that.

1088
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: The TV show is very interesting.

1089
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it. I see the clips.

1090
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's really true or not, but

1091
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, ex acting not acting rocks Man,

1092
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1093
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: Man dunking the ball in the goalpost became a fifteen

1094
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: yard unsportsman like penn Old. Is that Jimmy Graham rule,

1095
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Gramble. I think he did it once and

1096
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: it bent the bar and they had to postpone the game.

1097
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, not a lot of people can't even

1098
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: do that, you know what I'm saying. It's like a

1099
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: very rare feat that you could actually jump up there

1100
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: and dunk the ball. I mean on every team, there's

1101
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: probably like four guys that can actually do that.

1102
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I think a lot more guys can do.

1103
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: Like really get up there and do what Jimmy Graham

1104
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: was doing. That wasps like Gates could do it. That's yeah,

1105
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: a lot of guys could really go up there like really.

1106
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I saw someone do it recently.

1107
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw a guy do it recently.

1108
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: Who was it?

1109
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. You didn't say like everybody's doing it,

1110
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: like everybody can't didn't. Yeah, I can't do that.

1111
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: I used to do that in practice.

1112
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: I don't it. Billy Tonyo Brown was a crazy athlete,

1113
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: even though he didn't practice very much when it was

1114
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: the Patriots, well he did though. It was pretty amazing. Bro.

1115
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Remember when he we didn't have a ball touch the

1116
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: ground when Antonio practice, we had the best week of Remember, Yeah,

1117
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: that practice was ever because he rose the level of

1118
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: everyone else.

1119
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: He was so good man, he was monsters. He really

1120
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: is a good player.

1121
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: He was man.

1122
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 10: He Tom tried everything to make sure we would want

1123
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 10: to super Bowl. Yeah, Tom, if you would have stayed,

1124
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 10: Tom tried everything. Tom was just like you know, just

1125
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 10: like just just just come on.

1126
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: Man, I'll drive you to work, you know what I mean,

1127
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: Like didn't a place to live, Like what do you need?

1128
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: Like you want to you want my trainer? You want

1129
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: my food. You want to like if this just come

1130
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: to work and do what you're supposed to do, Like

1131
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: like Tom Knew, like he would literally try to get

1132
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: him to like that guy loves the win.

1133
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Win man, but man winning on that sack dance? What

1134
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: is this the Rick Rude?

1135
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think everybody grew up being a WWE fan.

1136
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean I know w but you can't even say

1137
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: anything because like you can't even like anybody because like

1138
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: if you like somebody, like you like them and you

1139
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: posting that you liked him, like two years later, like

1140
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: people can go back and look at your post and

1141
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: then the guy turns out to be like a killer

1142
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: or like might be diddious, you know what I'm saying,

1143
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: Like could be anything. Like then all of a sudden,

1144
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I gotta knock my post down. So

1145
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: like even with Vincent, man, it's like.

1146
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Damn Vince, I haven't seen that one either.

1147
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: I just I just read some of the stuff. I'm

1148
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: like you did what? Like who does that? But anyway,

1149
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: I love w W, like you know, Rick Rud and

1150
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: all those guys growing up or something.

1151
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: We're like, so, did you you ever get fined for

1152
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: a dance.

1153
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: They told me I could only do two pumps. Two

1154
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: pumps and I know three day was like that, that's

1155
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: too much.

1156
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: He stop it.

1157
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: Three girations is too much. He always knew that.

1158
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: The I don't even want to say his name, but

1159
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: there's a ref that was always a little stickler with

1160
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: all that ship. I don't want to say his name,

1161
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: but he knows who he is looking at you, Cleat Blake,

1162
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: Scott Novac, Fucking Scott Novac. Look, he looked like a

1163
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: principal out there just trying to hold court. Always didn't

1164
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: even let you jive with him.

1165
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: And the Chris part about referees, they all have like

1166
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: good jobs.

1167
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like what are you like, They're all like

1168
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: lawyers and what do you do?

1169
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, I'm a medical doctor.

1170
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 10: Like how do you have time.

1171
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: To do this?

1172
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: Like there's a couple of former players now though.

1173
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just saying it's kind of crazy though,

1174
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Like when you think about those guys and you talk

1175
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: to them and you're like.

1176
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: Well, they're not full time. I mean you would think

1177
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: that the league would make them full time.

1178
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: They all have.

1179
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 9: Guns now too. It's like an arms race to get

1180
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 9: like bigger biceps. You know, they're all going on hockey.

1181
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 9: That was old hockey.

1182
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: He was the first one getting all jacked and now

1183
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: his little son's getting all jacked.

1184
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: You got to get jacked up out.

1185
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: They don't want to be getting tossed around out there

1186
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: to fight.

1187
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: And but you can't really talk to the NFL referees

1188
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: like that. But NBA you could say whatever you want.

1189
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 4: Let it fly, baby, those guys dig Bevetta take it all, Jackie.

1190
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: Let's set the stage for the Green Bay Packers.

1191
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1192
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: Sorry, I got my caught up on Scott Novak's LinkedIn

1193
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 4: page over here.

1194
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: University.

1195
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: He went to University of Phoenix.

1196
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 4: University of Phoenix, according to this he did. Who knows,

1197
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 4: people don't let's not put his name out there in

1198
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: allural craft.

1199
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: You lug into university.

1200
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's move into the Packers here. Twelve and four.

1201
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: This was Mike McCarthy's ninth year. Uh we know he's

1202
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 4: down in Dallas now. This was the dom Capers led defense,

1203
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: undefeated at Lambeau, tied for the league best record twelve

1204
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 4: and four with the Seattle Seahawks this season, won the

1205
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: NFC North four years running, led the league in scoring

1206
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: four hundred eighty six points.

1207
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: That's Rogers, Eddie Lacy.

1208
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: James Starks, DeVante Adams, Rookie year Daddy mac Daddy James

1209
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: Starks shout out Buffalo College from Niagara Falls.

1210
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: Ye crazy, uh.

1211
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 4: Jordy Nelson speaking of fines, he's a uh.

1212
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: He's one of the officers.

1213
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, he's one of the fine guys. Who is

1214
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: your fine guy? Remember Marton Hanks used to be one.

1215
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: Of the guys. Those five people they get paid pretty

1216
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: good money. Man, Oh do they really? Yeah? They I

1217
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: got so mad.

1218
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: I used to love Merchant.

1219
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Can I get that job?

1220
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: What's the fine guy? I have no idea.

1221
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: So, like when you get fined for like on four

1222
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: like conduct Or, I threw the ball in the fit

1223
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: the stands once got fined for that. You gotta have

1224
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: like a little hearing. So the NFL sets you up

1225
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: with some guy or former player. So it's like friendly

1226
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: fire type shit. You're over here trying to buddy him up.

1227
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: Like I was talking to Martin, like, yo, you know,

1228
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: you're such my favorite guy. When I was a kid

1229
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: with the neck thing and everything, didn't even do anything.

1230
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: Slap me with the fine, didn't even reduce it.

1231
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, no, that's how I go.

1232
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 6: Man.

1233
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: It's like you're imprisoning and like they got the prisoner's

1234
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: judging if you're gonna get out or not. But he's like,

1235
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: I ain't never got out, so you're standing.

1236
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 6: No.

1237
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: I was just that's that's crazy, exactly. That's crazy. Now

1238
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: they make pretty good bread though.

1239
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: That's funny.

1240
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1241
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 4: And uh we talked about this guy earlier, but they

1242
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: added Julius Peppers in the offseason to bolster that defense.

1243
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: What a legend Hall of Famer.

1244
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: What was your thoughts on this Packers team going into

1245
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: this guys were already fun fact.

1246
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: You know Tom Clemens's wife is Kathay Clemens and they

1247
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: do clemons on Yeah, fun fat But Don Caper is

1248
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: that defense. I think that was one of the best defenses.

1249
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: That they weren't like a super physical defense compared to

1250
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: like the forty nine ers, but they were strong and fast.

1251
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: I think people forget about Clay Matthews. I think Clay

1252
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: Matthews should be a Hall of Famer, and he was.

1253
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: He was out there. Juwis Pepper's on both sides. Nick

1254
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: Perry was coming off the off of it then you

1255
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: got a j Hawk like that team was, you know,

1256
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: and people forget it. I've been knowing Jordan Nelson because

1257
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: he went to Kansas State and I went to Texas

1258
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: and m so we alway played against them. He was

1259
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: one of the best receivers. He just kind of and

1260
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: he just kind of disappeared.

1261
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: One year.

1262
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: He was like super good one year, the next year

1263
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 2: he was gone. Yeah. Then like Randall Cobb and Eddie Lacy,

1264
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, speaking of Derek Harvey, like nobody want to

1265
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: tackle Lace at that time.

1266
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: He quick this game, he was fast, he was strong.

1267
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: They had that play that they they had the office

1268
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: lineman kind of spread out a little bit. Then they

1269
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: would kind of do an a gap run and they

1270
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: kind of do a little stretch with him with John Coon.

1271
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: Then they had James Starks, who was a really good

1272
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 2: running back. Then they had old good old Matt Flynn,

1273
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, and then like the offensive line was really

1274
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: good too, right because they had uh, look like t J. Lane,

1275
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: like you know, Josh Sitting. I had to go get

1276
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 2: them lame all those guys. Although that are really great

1277
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: office in line. You know, they didn't really give up

1278
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: that many sacks that year. And they were just a

1279
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: really over good, good, good team. I think that was

1280
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: one of the better teams that played. Obviously, they had

1281
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: like a stacked team, and the kicker, Mason Crosby, didn't

1282
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: really mix that many kicks or whatever.

1283
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: Then we're still kicking somewhere right, Mason.

1284
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: Didn't like defensive line, you know, that was pretty good.

1285
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 2: That was probably the defensive line is probably the least

1286
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: known people on that team, like Mike Neil from Purdue,

1287
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: Mike Panel, Dante Jones from u c l A, like

1288
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: all those guys. Like those guys, Mike Daniels was pretty

1289
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: good player, went to Pro Bowl I think the next year. Overall,

1290
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: that was a pretty good, strong team.

1291
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, the twelve four really damn good. Aaron VP.

1292
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got Randall Cobb. Like people forget

1293
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: how great Randall Cob.

1294
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: It was really good. He was young. This is a

1295
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: young Randall Cobb.

1296
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: And Julius Peppers can't even came and said enoughing about

1297
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: Julius Peppers.

1298
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: The freaky.

1299
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: And then a J Hawk was really good too, man,

1300
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: A J Hawk was cold National champion.

1301
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like Super Bowl champion.

1302
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: Look at the stats. You know your two receivers over

1303
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: a thousand yards to almost over thirteen hundred. You know

1304
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, you know, fifteen hundred, twelve hundred. Davonte

1305
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: Adams was a baby receiver at that time, but he

1306
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: was learning from all the dogs. You know what I'm saying,

1307
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: Like thirty eight touchdowns, no five interceptions. Man, I think

1308
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson through five interceptions in that game, you know

1309
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like Eddie Lacey was you know that?

1310
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: So that team was really good team. That was a

1311
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: really fun team to play against because they had so

1312
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: many stacked players and they were just really a great

1313
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 2: overall was Charles Wilson wasn't on that team. He wasn't

1314
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: on that team? What was it?

1315
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: Like Shak and Aaron who was always fun.

1316
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 2: But Aaron is like a really like competitive person too.

1317
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: So like if you make a good player, he'd be like,

1318
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: good job, you know what I mean, or like something

1319
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: like like he'd be mad, but he'd be like you're

1320
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: a good player or something like you know what I mean,

1321
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: Like you.

1322
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 11: Don't get yeah, But I think Aaron Rogers is a

1323
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 11: hard person to like though, you know, because it's like

1324
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 11: Tom Brady is a lot easier person to like, you know,

1325
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 11: I feel like there's like those people that are like

1326
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 11: they're just like, man, this, I don't know what is

1327
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 11: a bottom?

1328
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: How is Tom? How is Tom compared to when you

1329
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: didn't play with him, from when you met him?

1330
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: Man, I feel like Tom is also like a great

1331
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: student of the game because like he knows like if

1332
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: you're a good player like Neil, not if you're a

1333
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: bad player, but if you're a good player, Tom can

1334
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 2: repeat to you or like certain things that you did

1335
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: in the game or how you do it. Like he's

1336
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: a very respectable player. You He is the type of

1337
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: player that you don't have to have pro bos for

1338
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: Tom Brady to respect you. You just have to be

1339
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: a good player, like a player that did something great

1340
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: for the team that were influential to the way that

1341
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: that team played, like how you were a nucleus. Like

1342
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: there's some people who get a lot of pro bos,

1343
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like the Patriots, like

1344
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: y'all have a lot of good receivers, but sometimes y'all

1345
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: didn't get the pro bos that you'll deserve, you know

1346
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know Wes Walker did, but like

1347
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: other people didn't you know, get those ones, but y'all

1348
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: did have great people on y'all team and people who

1349
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: are in the league with respect the players that y'all had,

1350
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: you know, maybe didn't show up and all of the

1351
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: you know, oh that's the guy. But then you're like,

1352
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: man like Julian like that he tough, but you gotta

1353
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: respect him, like you know, like Eve when we played y'all,

1354
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, yeah, Julian Ellman, like, yeah, that's

1355
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: that's one of the guys that like, yeah, he's like,

1356
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: y'all all gonna have respect for him at the end,

1357
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: because doesn't matter the player of the game or how

1358
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 2: is you respect the way that he plays the game.

1359
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: He gets up from the hits, he does whatever. Team

1360
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: like people, you know what I'm saying, Like you might

1361
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: not know it because you're in another locker room, but

1362
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: they show you and they're like, this is how you're

1363
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: supposed to play the game. So this guy's blocking right here,

1364
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: this guy's giving up from the field, like they point

1365
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: out those type of things and the players know, you

1366
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. The fans may not know.

1367
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: And Brady Brady did that with guys. Yeah you can

1368
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: tell that, Yeah, he's a fan of the game.

1369
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: He's a fan of the game. Bell Check is too though.

1370
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: I even think that Belichick a draft take a guy

1371
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: to just I don't know belichickif we just want to

1372
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: know what the guy's thinking, you know what I'm saying,

1373
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: Like he's like a really like so what do you

1374
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: think about this? You know what I mean? Like he

1375
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: like Belichick just respects the players too. Like certain guys,

1376
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: he just respects us in the league. And he always

1377
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: they always always end up there, but they don't, you

1378
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like there's a place where sometimes

1379
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: good players go to die, you know. But but overall,

1380
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: but it's like he you, he respects the way that

1381
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: you play a game. He probably wants to know how

1382
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: you play.

1383
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: So what do you think about all the narrative of

1384
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: how Bill is portrayed to players? You Like, you're you're

1385
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: saying something completely opposite of basically what everything is been

1386
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: coming out about, Like, oh, the TV shows, the this,

1387
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: the that they're all saying, this guy, you can't work

1388
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: for him. What was your experience being an out?

1389
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: I just didn't like I just didn't like it there.

1390
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: That was the only thing I like overall, I just

1391
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: felt like I didn't fit into the situation. I just

1392
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: I feel like I just it was completely different. It's

1393
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: like it's like I just came from like like a

1394
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: very free spirited place, like like like all like having

1395
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: to wear knee braces at practice. I'm like, I ain't

1396
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: never do nothing like that, you know what I'm saying,

1397
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: Like like it's just stuff that like like even like

1398
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: I had I was like playing for Bill Belichick, like

1399
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: you know, going to the meetings and doing everything. I

1400
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 2: ain't like my position coach because he didn't know nothing

1401
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: about defense, you know what I'm saying, like defensive ends

1402
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: or nothing like that. You know. So, But overall, my

1403
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: experience with the Patriots was a good experience. Like I said,

1404
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: I just wasn't used to like living in the country

1405
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: and all that type of shit, like people don't know, man,

1406
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: like playing for New England, bro, Like you like through

1407
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: y'all lived in Boston, but everything else around New England

1408
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: is like, oh my god, where am I? Like I

1409
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 2: never ain't nowhere to eat. I'm just like this, I'm

1410
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: like where am I? But I don't know. I feel

1411
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: like I was in Pleasantville or something. Man, I was

1412
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: just like, bro, what.

1413
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: Made Pete Carroll more free spirited?

1414
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: Well, Pete, I just also people. I just like Pete

1415
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: didn't really like bother us that much about certain things,

1416
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It was just like you

1417
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: do your job, come to work. It was more like

1418
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: team type thing and like and every time I ever

1419
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: been on the defensive line was most like one of

1420
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: the most important parts of the team, the best. Yeah,

1421
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: so like whatever, it's like that. Like in New England,

1422
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: I feel like it's more about the secondary and the linebackers,

1423
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like if you're a linebacker,

1424
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: like you outside linebacker, you got more opportunities than a

1425
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: front defensive lineman, like a three four defensive lineman. But

1426
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: I do think if I could have went to New England,

1427
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: like starting off, then I would would have been completely different.

1428
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: I think I would have like fitting way more because

1429
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: that would have been the system that I know, and

1430
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: I feel like with Bill Belichick and my skill set,

1431
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: I would have I could have been really good in

1432
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: that system. But where I was at, like just coming

1433
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: from Philly, like it was more like, well, lineup wide

1434
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: and just just go, just go, you know what, I'm

1435
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: saying there was never nothing about the plays. I like

1436
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 2: the plays that was called. Like, I just like, it's

1437
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: like the team. The teammates in New England, I were

1438
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: super great, you know, all the guys that were super

1439
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: fun they had hang out with. It was just always

1440
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: fun in the locker room. But I was just like

1441
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: the team was completely different.

1442
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a different place to play.

1443
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 2: It's completely different. Reminds me of like a college town

1444
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: kind of like like we play at one o'clock and

1445
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 2: it's like very you know, Corn on the cop type ship,

1446
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: you know what, Like what's going on? Corn? The whole

1447
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: town shuts down. It's just like, but.

1448
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: Were the practices different? Because I felt like he practicedes hard.

1449
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: He did practice as hard in this situation, completely different

1450
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: because I also too didn't like like I got hurt

1451
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: in New England, like at the at the beginning of

1452
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: the training camp and like I broke my collarbone. So

1453
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: I basically was there and that's the part it was too. Why.

1454
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: I was also just like, man, like they want me

1455
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: to play three four and I can't even lift my

1456
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: fucking right arm, like it was my left arm. I'll

1457
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, you know what I'm saying, But not

1458
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: my right arm, like it's the one that I actually need.

1459
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: The left one I could have did without, you know

1460
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I could have made it work. But

1461
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: it was like the right one, like my collar ball

1462
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: is still sticking out right there. Yeah, it was like

1463
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: it was just like it was just gone. You know,

1464
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: I couldn't lift my arm up there.

1465
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: Shoulders you can't. You can't catch and.

1466
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: Trying to hold up another lineman at three four, like.

1467
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: At twenty rounds, and that guy's a force. Like the shoulder.

1468
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: I remember, shoulders are always go with the big boys

1469
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 1: because they're sitting in there, locking in. There's so much

1470
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: goddamn pressure in between both three hundred and three hundred

1471
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: pounds or two whatever, like if a guy loses his shoulder,

1472
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: they were limemen were done.

1473
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I remember I didn't cuss the coach out,

1474
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: but I said something that was it sounded like I

1475
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: was cursing him out, but I didn't curse him out.

1476
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're loud.

1477
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: I said a curse word, but the way I said it,

1478
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: he took it the wrong way. But I remember Bill

1479
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: being calling me and he was like, hey, Michael Ken,

1480
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: have you doing that? Look, I want you to come in,

1481
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's not it's just in a you're looking

1482
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: in the handbook pays three thirty eight point nine. You

1483
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 2: can't do that. I'm like, let me look at thirty

1484
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: eight point nine. Yeah, he says, they can't do that.

1485
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to find you and you're gonna have

1486
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: to stay home this week. See you on Monday, get

1487
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: some rest and be ready to go when you come back.

1488
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, Bill, that's not that's not how that's

1489
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: that's exactly.

1490
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: He brought out the number and everything. Yes, chapter six thirty.

1491
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember when I came to New England. I

1492
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: was like, man, I was like, man, I want a

1493
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: couple more million or whatever. And then Bill was like,

1494
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: well tell me why you need more? And I was

1495
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: like this this this thing. He's like, Okay, let me

1496
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: think about it. You know what I'm saying. But he's

1497
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: literally like a type of person that if you give

1498
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 2: him like he's really a numbers person, you know what

1499
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: I mean. Like it really comes down to like what

1500
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: you're doing, how you doing it? Why are you coming through?

1501
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: Like any kind of like going into this office is

1502
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: like you know, you learn a lot even being at

1503
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: the Patriots meeting, like they never really like in Seattle,

1504
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: they never really called out like Rustle on certain things,

1505
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: but like you know, like but Bill will call tell

1506
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: him out on everything. How's a guy who's been the

1507
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: MVP four times, it's won the championship six times, throw

1508
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: this fucking route right here. It's like it's like you've

1509
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: seen it before. Tom. It was like you're just back there,

1510
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: like Dad, he's going off with Tom Brady right now.

1511
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: Let you know, everyone's own limits.

1512
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember the first meeting in preseason and

1513
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 2: h o OTAs or something, and Bill came in there

1514
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: and he had like the little paper and he like

1515
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: dropped and it was like one of those things where

1516
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: it was like I think he was just sitting the

1517
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: stage to tell everybody, if you questioned me, shut the

1518
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: fuck up, but basically because he was like, here's my credentials.

1519
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: Basically it was like seven times, like it was just

1520
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: going down the rids, like twenty two, twenty years of

1521
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: winning the end of this like seventeen deep. You remember,

1522
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: it was like it was like all the stats of

1523
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: all the things and you were like it's like so

1524
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: I know what I'm talking about. I was like, yeah,

1525
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: he does. You're like that that's it right there, he right,

1526
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: he know. Hey, we listened to him. So like I

1527
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: had a good time there, but like I said, I

1528
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: just didn't fit into the defense at the time because

1529
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: it was kind of changing.

1530
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love I love David in there because I

1531
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: was real close to Marty and you were kind of

1532
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: like a little Marty issue. Yeah, but I didn't get

1533
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: to see an everyday meeting. But I'd always jive with

1534
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: you in the locker room because we know he's you know,

1535
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: defense offense. We're kind of different teams. But Bill would

1536
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: address the team for fifty minutes forty five minutes every morning,

1537
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: the whole team, Yeah, which is probably different than anywhere

1538
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: you have been in either. Yeah, like he break down offense, defense,

1539
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: special teams in front of everyone, so everyone heard the

1540
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: lashings of everyone else. Yeah, just so like when you're

1541
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: walking down the hall.

1542
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: Everybody got it, you know what I'm saying. It was

1543
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: just like like, yeah, you knew, like that meeting there

1544
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: was really cool and so I enjoyed myself there that

1545
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: we were nine in one of the last ten games.

1546
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: Let's get down to the Seattle Sea Crazy.

1547
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: Let's get into these Seahawks twelve and four.

1548
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, dan Quinn led defense, Darryl Bevell coaching the offense.

1549
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 4: Is the fifth year of the Pete Carroll regime. We

1550
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 4: know about the league in the Boom they're looking to repeat.

1551
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: Started three and three and then it's like Michael said,

1552
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 4: finished nine and one. They were hot, beat Green Bay

1553
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: in the first game of the season.

1554
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: There.

1555
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: Uh, that will a little foreshadowing for this matchup year

1556
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 4: repeaters NFC West Champs. Let's get in on some of

1557
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 4: these guys, Russell Wilson, Beast Moode, Marshawn Lynch, Thug Bald,

1558
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: when Jermaine Curse, Chris Matthews who got hot around this

1559
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 4: time of the year. And then the defense, we know

1560
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 4: the defense maybe curse of course, Cliff Averroll, Michael Bennett,

1561
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: Bruce Irv and Bobby Wagner, kJ Right, Cam Chancellor. This

1562
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 4: was stacked Earl Thomas, Earl Tom.

1563
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: Now is the Legion of Boom just the secondary or

1564
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: is it the whole thing?

1565
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: I think it's the whole defense, But it depends on

1566
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: you asked right. I think the Legion of Boom kind

1567
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: of started with their before I got there, kind of,

1568
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: and I think it became a lot better once me

1569
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: and Cliff and te Matt got there. Yeah, but I

1570
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: think it was considered the whole defense I think, I

1571
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: mean depends that you asked, right. I mean, they do

1572
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: have a little offense a restaurant called Legions Sherman Cam.

1573
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. They got gumba. I didn't like any

1574
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: place that got gumbo. Honestly, that's a sign for me

1575
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: to be like, yeah, that's rest.

1576
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: He's from Louisiana. Never had gumbo. You never had gumbo

1577
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: until I went to like Ohio, and.

1578
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: Like Ohio, that's not the place to get it, I know.

1579
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: But that like all our coaches are from the South,

1580
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So like anytime you go

1581
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: anywhere for the first I was a California kid, then

1582
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: you go anywhere else. All coaches are from the South.

1583
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: So like we always had like you know, the catering

1584
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 1: food would be like gumbo and barbecue, and I never

1585
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: really had it, never had grits. Before college. We're oatmeal.

1586
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: People went on the cap, you know. No, I would

1587
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: say the strength of the team, like when we were

1588
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: preparing for Seattle and the Super Bowl the next or

1589
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: a few weeks later. The next week, it was it

1590
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: all came down to the defensive line because they could

1591
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: get pressure with four guys, and then everyone else was

1592
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: on a string, and everyone did their responsibility, so damn good.

1593
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: But they did what you guys did what you do.

1594
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: You didn't change for really nobody, you know. That's kind

1595
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: of that was the thing about dan Quinn and his defenses.

1596
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: They do what they do. Everyone's gonna play on a string.

1597
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna get pressure with four and so the legion,

1598
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: the boom to me has to be associated with the defense,

1599
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: defensive line, the front box has to be in there. Yeah,

1600
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: because it's such a you guys played such team defense

1601
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: and everyone swarmed. Everyone was super unselfish. If it was

1602
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: a screen like you watched the plays when I caught

1603
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: a screen or something, fucking Bennett would be there, the

1604
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: defensive lineman would be there. They would all swarm. Nothing

1605
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: was more. You'd always hear Bill would throw on a

1606
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: tape of Pete Carroll saying ball, everyone after the ball,

1607
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: or say.

1608
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: Shit like yeah, the ball, ball, all that matters is

1609
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: the ball.

1610
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: So like we knew going into him, that this defense

1611
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: they swarm, They're gonna get pressure with four and then

1612
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: the secondary they had, you know, shirm back there. Cam

1613
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas was a fucking torpedo and like you guys

1614
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: just play. You guys were insane.

1615
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were super fast too, like fast swarm That's

1616
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: what it was like. Everybody was like everyone was fast. Everybody,

1617
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: Like I think the slowest person ran like a four

1618
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: to six. You know what I'm saying. Like yeah, like defense,

1619
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: so it was like a super fast defense. So everybody

1620
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: was like spreading the whole time and like and I

1621
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: just remember like being on that defense and like we

1622
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: would make so many plays and like on screen games,

1623
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: returns in general just had so many turnovers just because,

1624
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: like you said, we stayed to who we were regardless

1625
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: of who we were playing. Were like, look, we're gonna

1626
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: make them beat us.

1627
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: Now, how do you sum up this team? This is

1628
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: just grit again, Yeah.

1629
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: I think this team was there was a versatility and grit.

1630
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of versatility that season,

1631
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: just like people being moved in and out and just

1632
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: like we lost some good guys that prior season, like

1633
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: like brend and me Bank got hurt in it during

1634
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: the year, Like that kind of changed a little thing.

1635
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 2: But we also had Kevin Williams when she was a

1636
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and we was with the Vikings, so

1637
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: it's like we have some really really good guys. But yeah,

1638
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: I think Grit too. I think Grit was his team

1639
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: because we just lost. It came off the Super Bowl

1640
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: and the whole idea was like, how do you go

1641
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: back when you win a Super Bowl? You know, it's

1642
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: like it's a feeling, but it's not like it's just

1643
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: a day. You know what I'm saying it again, It's

1644
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: just like you wake up and do it. It's like

1645
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: it's now an eternal thing. It's like it's like you

1646
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 2: you happy for like ten minutes and then like they're

1647
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: trying to see who's going to win it. It's a business,

1648
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: you know.

1649
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: Like the highs aren't as high as you think they're

1650
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: going to be, but the lows are lower than what

1651
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: you think they're going to be.

1652
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

1653
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: You know, like because when you go out and win

1654
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, it becomes so much harder the next

1655
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: year that you have to work almost you have to

1656
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: work harder than you did the year before to maintain

1657
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: it to get there, and I never got I never

1658
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: went back to back, Like because you become America's most

1659
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: number one target. You're on that billboard. Anytime you play

1660
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: a team, they're circling you because you're a measuring stick.

1661
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: And it's just becomes so much harder. And then there's

1662
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: a whole year of film of what you're you were

1663
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: great at that teams are combating.

1664
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: So that's what makes Patrick Mahomes really great because it's

1665
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: like every year this guy's in the super Bowl, even

1666
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: if he doesn't win it, I'm like, he's back, you guys,

1667
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: you know, like that's crazy.

1668
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

1669
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: It is.

1670
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: Now, can you describe the atmosphere and Centuryle Like I

1671
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: played there once and it was so freaking loud, Like

1672
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: how do you guys get those people out?

1673
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: Man? Those people they're so crazy. Man, Like we you know,

1674
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: we couldn't play Future, but when we did, I'm joking, guys,

1675
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: a whole rumor, but like we would play like Rick

1676
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: Ross the Future, like that stadium when it's reigning, like

1677
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: it'll be rocking. It was just so loud. It was

1678
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: really hard for opposing offenses like to really.

1679
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: They lead the league in like offside's penalties by away teams.

1680
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me getting off the ball and there was

1681
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: just like it was just like super easy, like it

1682
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: was just like you always get that first step because

1683
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: it's just like you were just the stateium is so loud.

1684
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: The way that is also the way there's design too,

1685
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of design like this, so the way

1686
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: that the noise and sonic bounce off of the Sorry,

1687
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm just going tall, but the design kind.

1688
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: Of liked that it closes, it keeps.

1689
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: Sounding so like it becomes louder and it may not

1690
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: be unlike you know, like the Arrowhead with it pump

1691
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: in sound. You know they say they don't, but it's

1692
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: clearly pumping inside.

1693
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: Arrowhead or is it I thought it was Indy.

1694
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: I think both both. But I think you want to

1695
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: see that when you like are like when you're doing

1696
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: commentating and stuff, you see that behind the scenes stuff,

1697
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: so you see a lot of the I.

1698
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: Mean I heard Indy did no Airs just came out

1699
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: and said, no, what you're saying, We'd love to have

1700
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: you come on the podcast and combat it, but you know,

1701
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: we'll see.

1702
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they do. In my opinion, I think

1703
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: they do maybe they don't though I think they do.

1704
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: But I know for us it was it was natural.

1705
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: It was no bbls.

1706
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: You know, when the crowd noise starts skipping, something's up

1707
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: when the track skips.

1708
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of Brazilian butlers, what's up with the pads that

1709
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: you wore?

1710
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: I just I never really liked the shoulder pass thing.

1711
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: I feel like if I didn't have to wear them,

1712
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: I probably would.

1713
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: You barely. You didn't wear shoulders, I know, but the

1714
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: shells just shells. Basically you were shells. You didn't get

1715
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: a shoulder banged up. You have bad shoulders.

1716
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 2: Just the one time in New England doing goddamn Aggie drill,

1717
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 2: that drill we used to do the Oklahoma drill that

1718
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 2: they said it wasn't Oklahoma drill. You know That's what

1719
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

1720
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: What is the blocking drill?

1721
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like this is a routine block drum. I'm like, no,

1722
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: this is this is Oklahoma drill, Like not supposed to

1723
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: be this type of contact right now?

1724
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: Did they call it like tould It wasn't Oklahoma, but

1725
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: it was. But Tulsa's place in Oklahoma.

1726
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: Do you know Tosa is a bad place for black

1727
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: people Black Wall Street. They not gonna name me after that, Like,

1728
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 2: but we did that and but no, I just always

1729
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: liked to be movement and I had my jersey a

1730
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: certain way, so I was it was really good with

1731
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 2: my hands, so it didn't really matter about the past

1732
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: that much.

1733
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: It's also better so the offensive line couldn't hold you.

1734
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when I used to hit people, it

1735
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: was like like I was good at tackle for loss.

1736
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: So I used to always hit the running back before

1737
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: he got the ball. Yeah, So it was like more

1738
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: tackles like quick. Yeah, it was really quick. I never

1739
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: really heard the like linebacker. Maybe if I was a

1740
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: linebacker it would be different. But since I was like

1741
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: and also too, I grew up loving the way that

1742
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: Justice Smith played the game. He always had like zero

1743
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: zero Justice Smith was one of my favorite players growing up.

1744
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: John Abraham, Oh see like all those guys, the people

1745
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: that I looked.

1746
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: Up to, Wow, I used to watch. I remember the

1747
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: same thing like when I when I became a receiver,

1748
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: you'd always want the smallest pads because I didn't want

1749
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: like when you'd rip and I'm trying to get under

1750
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: on a speed release, I didn't want him to get

1751
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: his shoulder pad or his hand on my shoulder pad.

1752
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: So the smaller surface here, it's better for you, it is.

1753
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: This is true, but it was a fine line because

1754
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: I get ta that had follow my shoulders.

1755
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like it was.

1756
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: I would always I remember walking. I was like, is

1757
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: he wearing fucking shells out there?

1758
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: And my shoulder paths are super small. I enjoyed it, though.

1759
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: You know, everybody would be like, how did you even

1760
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: every game? And they'd be like, like, I don't care

1761
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: about to knock somebody out.

1762
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 3: When did that start?

1763
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 2: I started when I was in Tampa. I used to

1764
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: always cut my shoulder pass and the GM used to

1765
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: always be like, you can't do that. If you have

1766
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: to do that, this waiver did he? Yeah?

1767
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 1: Who was that Jr?

1768
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: No? No, it was uh Mark dominant dominant. Justic Smith

1769
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: was a dog. I don' understand why just Smith's not

1770
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame yet.

1771
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: I forgot about him.

1772
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1773
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: I was a Niners fan.

1774
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: But look, go back to that picture, man, look at

1775
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: this picture of America, like like this guy's like like

1776
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: it's bleeding on his head, Like you don't even see

1777
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: people bleed. No more like this in the NFL like

1778
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: like this is like that guy's really come out there

1779
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 2: to play football, like this new football stuff. Two fingers taped,

1780
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: take the round the hands now, guys got it? Like

1781
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's like it's not the new

1782
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: Travis Scott's you know, like it's not hype Beast, you know,

1783
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: like you list is the one that Jay Z has

1784
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: on coys doesn't have any clatch Like that.

1785
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: Guy right there, like he looks like he eats cement.

1786
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy plays football. That's a guy that plays football.

1787
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: He eat that guy to Those are the guys that I.

1788
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: Grew up watching, you know, not everybody's doing oh that

1789
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. That guy don't do that kind of stuff. No,

1790
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: he let the kind of guy if he slap you

1791
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: in back of your head, your neck might hurt, you know.

1792
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely looks like he will slap you in

1793
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: the back of the head.

1794
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: Bull ring. He extended bull ring too, Oh my gosh.

1795
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: Probably so you could get a finger in there when someone's.

1796
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: Getting guy bleeding everywhere. Right now, man, come on, I'm

1797
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: just saying, all.

1798
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: Right, Jackie, let's let's get into the game, all right,

1799
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: Let's get in a little lead up here. As we

1800
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier's a rematch a week one. Seattle took that

1801
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: one thirty six sixteen. UH finished on a six game

1802
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: win streak. Green Bay, on the other hand, finished winning

1803
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: seven of their last eight. Seattle was the number one seed,

1804
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 1: got that first round by beat Carolina in the division

1805
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: round thirty one seventeen. Green Bay number two seed first

1806
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: run by also beat Dallas in the division round.

1807
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 4: That was a notable game. That was the des catch game.

1808
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 4: Remember that was to catch cat.

1809
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: I think it was a catch. I think you know

1810
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: what the.

1811
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: Catch is anymore, it's hard to find.

1812
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: I think that that was his that's his only time

1813
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: that that he's able to get to get to the

1814
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: super Bowl. I thought that.

1815
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: Was that was I feel like Jerry.

1816
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: I feel like Jerry Jones has done so much stuff

1817
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: that like God is like when you die, you win

1818
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, but you can enjoy it up here

1819
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: with me. You won't get to enjoyed on earth because

1820
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 2: you enjoyed too much stuff on earth.

1821
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: He I mean, he got bots, got a lot of stuff.

1822
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't make sense amount of money that they

1823
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 2: put into Dallas at this moment not to have won something.

1824
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: It's and that year was a great year. DeMarco Murray, Beast,

1825
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: Tony Romo, the office on line was stacked. Defense is

1826
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: pretty good.

1827
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: But is that the Romo flub snap game?

1828
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 2: No?

1829
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: That was that was next year.

1830
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: That was like, yeah, that's what that was in Seattle.

1831
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: That was crazy.

1832
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 4: But uh and then another way to Aaron Rodgers, the

1833
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 4: calf was a little banged up in this one.

1834
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 2: So uh need some building excuses coming into it.

1835
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: Now, how you how do you guys get hot? Would

1836
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: you guys change up? You guys just recalibrating focus after

1837
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: having a little Super Bowl hangover, a little.

1838
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: Hango right there. We just had a team meeting and it

1839
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: was like what we gonna do? Man?

1840
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: You know here now who leads that team meeting? Is

1841
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: it Russell Wilson?

1842
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 2: No? What Camp Tresco was like the more of the

1843
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: heart of the team. Yeah, like can you see that?

1844
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 2: Cam Treensl was like the guy that like he's not

1845
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: gonna say a lot of stuff, but like when you

1846
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: start to say stuff, because Earl Thomas doesn't really talk

1847
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 2: that much, you know what I'm saying, He's just kind

1848
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: of like more chilling with his One of his big

1849
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: roads raices outside, you know, really come to practice. Yeah,

1850
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: and then Cam is like the guy that's like he

1851
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 2: says something. He's kind of charm as a talker. But

1852
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: then Cam's like the enforcer, right, So Cam was the

1853
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: guy kind of like that pulled the team to get

1854
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 2: at that moment because he cares so much about the game. Like,

1855
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 2: I don't think people will realize how he didn't.

1856
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: Swear much, did he?

1857
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 2: No?

1858
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I remember. I always tell a story about

1859
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 1: when the first block, I would always go in and

1860
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: block the force and I would lay the ham on him.

1861
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: I would fucking I was short. I wasn't small. I

1862
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: was still one hundred and eighty eight pounds. So I

1863
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: could go in and I could light a guy up

1864
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: to let him know the first play, we're gonna be

1865
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: here all day.

1866
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1867
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 1: I did that to fucking Cam Chancellor, and I got woozy.

1868
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: He like knocked me out damn near first play the game,

1869
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: and he felt like he was rooted like a tree.

1870
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: He's a big guy, man, I don't think he's just strong.

1871
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't even looking at me. He just gave me

1872
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: an arm and I went in and try to give

1873
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 1: him helmet to helmet because that's what you do is blockers.

1874
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: You know, you want to give a little kiss. And

1875
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: he fucking lit me up and he knew I was

1876
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: a little jacked up. He says, it's gonna be a

1877
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: long day, young fella, or something like that.

1878
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of a lone those things

1879
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 2: like like Cam new is the same way right right,

1880
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 2: Like people don't realize how big Cam Newton was. Him

1881
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: is huge. Yeah, Like there's some people that are just

1882
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 2: like genetic freaks, you know. And yeah, so you know,

1883
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: Cam came in here and we had the team meeting

1884
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 2: and kind of got it together, kind of bring everybody

1885
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: together because you're like, you know, people start fingerporn. Who's

1886
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: the success, who's not the success? No, we win because

1887
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean now we winning because each other. It's a balance,

1888
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: like yeah, we're a great defense. But if they don't

1889
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: score points, I mean, I mean, we just need you

1890
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: to score like six points, you know what I'm saying,

1891
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: Like we can we can hold them to three, you

1892
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like but if like the whole

1893
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 2: point is that we needed to get them to come

1894
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: together and like with Earl, me with Cam and the

1895
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: defense coming together in offense, and just coom Bay. Yeah.

1896
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 2: And then Doug Baldman was a really good leader too.

1897
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Doug was I always respected baldwin Man. I

1898
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: thought he was. He always made big plays when the

1899
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 1: team needed it. He always you know, like you guys,

1900
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: a black version of you he could be. He was tough,

1901
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: He blocked hard.

1902
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 2: He's a black version of you, is he? Yeah?

1903
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: How is he? Is he the same size?

1904
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, by the same size.

1905
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: He was good, I'll take it. He scored some touchdowns

1906
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: and some Super Bowls now.

1907
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 2: But Doug, Doug is super a player, and he was

1908
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: tough and and he would like do the things like

1909
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: you said, like the block, and he respected every part

1910
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: of the game. He was a student of the game.

1911
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 2: And I think with Doug and Cam like coming in

1912
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: that kind of changed the whole thing, is like.

1913
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and so when this game was so

1914
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: I remember specifically, I was getting ready for the game

1915
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,919
Speaker 1: and they delayed our game because you guys went overtime.

1916
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: It's like, what the fuck is going on? It's national football,

1917
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: he's multi billion dollar corporation. What do we Why are

1918
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: we postponing a goddamn game?

1919
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: Oh? Because they want everybody to watch out the next one.

1920
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: If you want to watch this one. We're moving that

1921
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 2: one back. We own this ship.

1922
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: And so I go into the equipment room and it

1923
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: was right when the on site kick happened. I'm like,

1924
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: no fucking way, Like I didn't. I didn't realize until

1925
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: I started doing I mean, I remember back in the day.

1926
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 1: This is ten years ago now, but I didn't really

1927
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: I forgot how fucking crazy of a game this was.

1928
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy because.

1929
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: You guys had two goal line stops in the first

1930
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: quarter off of a pick and off of a what

1931
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: a kickoff return fumble? Yep, And like I'm sitting here like,

1932
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: how the fuck did this team win? And then we

1933
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: get back and we'll get into the game, but like

1934
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: I remember specifically, I'm sitting here like on site kick, Wow,

1935
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: there's no way there getting and you guys got it.

1936
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: And then that's right when we had to go out.

1937
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: And so it was crazy.

1938
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Because I think we only gave a one touchdown.

1939
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:31,480
Speaker 1: No, yeah, one touchdown. It was the the touchdown.

1940
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I jumped outside. But so we

1941
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: still won. But at the end of the day, that

1942
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 2: was a hard game because Russell threw so many interceptions.

1943
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: It was just like rus, come on, bro, like not

1944
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: three against this team. And that kind of happened the year.

1945
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: The next year we lost against y'all, but we had

1946
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: a kind of beat up season, but we still was

1947
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: able to like put it together. We beat the lines

1948
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 2: and then we went down to Carolina and that's when Carolina,

1949
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 2: that's when Kim New was at his this. We could

1950
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: have won that game too, but rustled through so many

1951
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: interceptions that game, and like it was just like, bro,

1952
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: like we can. God only gives us this every once

1953
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: in a while, you know, like do what you do

1954
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: with the thing, you know. But that game was just

1955
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: a challenging game because on defense, it was like we

1956
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: had to keep going stop. But like that was the

1957
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: first game that like when I was on defense that

1958
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 2: when they threw an interception, it wasn't people going like

1959
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: it was like all right, all right, like like let's

1960
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: go like like how we're gonna do this, Like it

1961
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be us, you know what I'm saying, gonna

1962
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: be They're not gonna give up nothing on us today.

1963
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 2: So that's how we went out there every single time,

1964
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: was like look, were about to go out here and

1965
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 2: stop them, stop them again, stopped them again, Like you know,

1966
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: even in that that fourth quarter, like those stops that

1967
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 2: we made to get the ball back, those are a

1968
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: hard stop because they try to run the clock out,

1969
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's the part that it's

1970
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 2: hard than two minutes a lot of times because it's

1971
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: like they got so that was a really hard game.

1972
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 1: Because what goes into a goal line stand like what

1973
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 1: what what do you have to do to stop an

1974
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: offense from running the like when what is it? Defensive

1975
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: line has to have penetrate? What is it?

1976
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: Penetration? Penetration kills all runs if you know that, especially

1977
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: on stretch plays anytime you get it. That's why three

1978
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,839
Speaker 2: techniques are so important in certain schemes because three technique

1979
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: is kind of the pillar to getting the defense going.

1980
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: And what's the three technique?

1981
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: Three technique is the one that lines up on the guard.

1982
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: One that lines up on the guard.

1983
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: For you listeners, Yeah, he could be a two eye,

1984
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: he could be a three depending on the shade of it.

1985
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 2: But most of the time you have people like the

1986
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: people that you know, they're in the Hall of Fame,

1987
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: they mostly all were three techniques. You know what I'm saying,

1988
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: because they're the ones that get the sacks, they're the

1989
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 2: ones that get off the ball. Like I was a

1990
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: three technique and a defensive man, so those a hard

1991
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: place to play. But we in this game, it was

1992
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 2: just like getting the penetration and stop them from being

1993
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 2: able to move forward on the run. With a guy

1994
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: like Eddie Lacy, that means you got to have a

1995
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 2: lot of people. He's not the first person is probably

1996
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: not gonna take him down, so everybody has to be

1997
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 2: able to swarm. Swarm, so we have to swarm a

1998
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: lot to be able to do that.

1999
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: How was it playing under quinn man dan Quinn?

2000
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: I still talk to dan Quinn a lot. I feel

2001
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: like dan Quinn was one of the defensive courtner that

2002
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: has ever had a chance to play with because he

2003
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: just knew the game and he just would teach you

2004
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: and he wouldn't settle for anything. If you notice, like

2005
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: almost every team he goes to, the defensive defense is

2006
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: pretty good, and he defensive line is his favorite, you

2007
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So like you never gonna see

2008
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: him with not a stacked defensive line, Like look at

2009
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 2: the defensive line of the Commanders. They had a stack

2010
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: defensive line.

2011
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what they were selling a bunch of guys.

2012
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: He's developing guys.

2013
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: He's developing guys. But still they had the two D

2014
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: tackles that were he loves D tackles, so like looking

2015
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: at the Cowboys, look at the Falcons like always, you know,

2016
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: but sometimes it's cracks in the defense if you don't

2017
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,520
Speaker 2: come back. You know, He's been a part of the

2018
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: two worst comebacks and the NFL, but still still great defense.

2019
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: Court, I mean, you still got to get there. And

2020
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: he's he's taking the team to the super Bowl and

2021
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: he's got a young quarterback and Jayden Daniels that's looking

2022
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: really damn good. He's got a good situation. The only

2023
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: thing I get scared of dan Quinn it's the same

2024
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: thing that happened Atlanta when Kyle Shanahan leaves. How's he

2025
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: going to react?

2026
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a great p knows how.

2027
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: He knows that defense. But once Kyle Shanahan left Atlanta

2028
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: wasn't the same. Yeah, but that's Cliff Kingsbury is there

2029
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: right now. He's going to develop Jade and Jaden is

2030
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: looking great. What if he leaves and gets a head

2031
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: coaching job next year.

2032
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 2: But then he has to be able to have the

2033
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: right people behind him too. Yeah, it's hard, though, you

2034
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: have good coaches and that's the heart.

2035
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize. When you win, you lose.

2036
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: You're losing. You're losing players, and you're losing coaches. You know,

2037
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs.

2038
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: I think that's why it was Name never leaves the

2039
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 2: defense coordinator because he's.

2040
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: Like Fags, like he's already kind of done that.

2041
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: It's like, this is a good situation. I don't have

2042
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: to you know what I'm saying, Like, I get to

2043
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: worry about defense and I know we're gonna win.

2044
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,919
Speaker 1: That was a lot of why we had our success

2045
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: because our coaches stayed intact, like the diving Fears. Scar

2046
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: was there for a long time, Chatty o'she was there

2047
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: for eleven years, you know, the belichickair. You know, there's

2048
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that stayed. We had Maddy p

2049
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: and Flow and all those guys. Once they start, you know,

2050
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: that's that's a huge part of it.

2051
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of those guys be good coaches. But

2052
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: then it's like it's different when you lead your own

2053
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: team because some of the tactics that.

2054
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. You got to learn have you got

2055
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: to learn to have be your own figure. Yeah, yeah,

2056
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: you can't just go try to be Bill Belichick.

2057
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that's only Yeah, everybody don't. Yeah, it's hard for

2058
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: other people.

2059
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack the game.

2060
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we covered the the intro here. Two picks

2061
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 4: in the first five minutes that would be a theme

2062
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 4: for the day, interceptions by both sides. We got a

2063
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 4: green Bay field goal after the first one, one of

2064
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 4: those first defensive stands on the goal line that we

2065
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 4: talked about. Then the Doug Baldwin fumbling the kickoff another

2066
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 4: stand on the goal line only resulted in three. Then

2067
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 4: at the end of the quarter we got the thirteen

2068
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 4: to nothing with the free play Rogers to Cobb, only

2069
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 4: touchdown on the day.

2070
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 2: For green Bay.

2071
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 4: Moving in the second quarter, two more Russell interceptions, a

2072
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 4: Rogers interception, there's a three drives in a row that

2073
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 4: all end in interceptions, and then pick Fest Yeah, Pickfest

2074
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 4: nine seven left, he throws his second one still has

2075
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: yet to make a completion. Russ's I mean, we got

2076
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 4: three picks and no completions.

2077
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: Crazy in the first half. In the first half, how

2078
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: do first off, what's Pete Carroll's halftime like, and then

2079
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: what's halftime of this game with defense?

2080
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: Like Pete Carrol's like, so we're gonna do. We'll play

2081
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: good defense, We'll get a Bottimore shank and Russell just

2082
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 2: complete some passes. We're gonna win, all right, guys, we

2083
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: can go out there and win. We can go out

2084
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: there and win if we play good defense and get

2085
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 2: a Baltimore shank and we just played the game. All right, guys,

2086
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: we're not really down by much. Let's go out there

2087
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: and it's like, bro sixteen zero? How many?

2088
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 1: How many pieces of gum does he go through a game?

2089
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 2: Man? He has a gum guy. Everybody, you're not really

2090
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: rich if you don't have a gum guy. And he's

2091
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: right hand piece of gum. Yeah, you know he's got

2092
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: a monarch guy too. He rocks those monarchs. He loves

2093
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: the Nike mind brought Peek Carroll brought those monarchs back.

2094
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 2: He did single handedly something like Kanye, it was Pee, Now,

2095
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 2: what do you what do you guys?

2096
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: As a defense? Is Quinn talking to you guys? Are

2097
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 1: you guys having a players only.

2098
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: We having a player's defensive meeting, Just being like, look,

2099
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: coaches don't even need to come in here. This come

2100
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 2: down to us doing executing at the highest level. Look,

2101
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what Russell does or what it does.

2102
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: We don't we gave up some points. The field goal

2103
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: is still mad at us, you know what I'm saying.

2104
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, it's like, don't

2105
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 2: even let them get in field. Go position, Like let's

2106
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: just keep them back, stop them every opportunity that we get.

2107
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Play great defense, you know what I'm saying, And just

2108
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: anybody to get the ball, knock them out, you know

2109
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like a court get just hit the quarterback,

2110
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: make him feel the office in line, no excuses. This

2111
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: is the last game of the year. If if you

2112
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: don't play this game and you can have a great

2113
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 2: time in Cabo in the week, you know what I'm saying,

2114
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 2: Like this is about going to Arizona. So it's like, look,

2115
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: I don't care if your show to hurt. I don't

2116
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: care what you're going through at home. Like you need

2117
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: to be hyper focused right now, detailed, you know what

2118
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, to win this type of game. And I

2119
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: think that's what we kind of settled down and did.

2120
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: Now what's more Sean doing in the locker room at

2121
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:01,839
Speaker 1: a halftime?

2122
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

2123
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 12: I love he just like, Man, I've been telling you'all

2124
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 12: to give it the ball, man, y'all want to win

2125
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 12: the game, like like what we're doing right now, Like

2126
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 12: y'all stop me from dancing like you know what I'm saying, skittles,

2127
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 12: you know.

2128
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Like he's just like he's like I've been telling y'all

2129
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: just you know, like what we're doing. What's your best?

2130
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: What's your what's your best? Marshaw story man, nothing I

2131
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: can sell on camera. Man a lighthearted one.

2132
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: The best thing about Marshawn is that each day is real,

2133
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: regardless of the situation. You know, he's just whether winner

2134
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 2: or losing, like you get the same person. I think

2135
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 2: that's what I love about Marshawn. He's just a funny

2136
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 2: guy man, Like you know, even in Hawaii, Like he

2137
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 2: comes to Hawaii and then he will have like a

2138
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 2: Turkey drive or whatever. Like Marshaan's type. Person is always

2139
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 2: gonna go to whatever the most improverised people are in

2140
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 2: the world and go there first. He's not gone he

2141
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 2: go to London. He's not gonna go to the buckingheam palace,

2142
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: he can go, He's gonna go to London, to the

2143
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 2: East Side or but that's just who he is, right,

2144
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: he grew up in that type of area. So it's like,

2145
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 2: that's one thing I say about Marshawn, Like that's just

2146
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 2: the thing I like about him is that he just

2147
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: keeps it real like that the whole time.

2148
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 6: Dude.

2149
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 2: I went.

2150
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: So, I grew up in the Bay and I had

2151
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: a lot of friends that went to Berkeley with with Marshawn.

2152
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: And there's just such a funny story where Marshawn was

2153
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: coming off of the practice field in his in his

2154
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: full get up right and he liked my boy's bike.

2155
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, my boy loved Marshawn because Marshaun was

2156
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 1: a superstar. And so my my boy goes, I'll trade

2157
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: you my bike for your helmet, and he goes, fuck it,

2158
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: and he goes, I got a sharpie will he signed it.

2159
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: He signed it, and my buddy still has to signed

2160
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: the Marshawn Lynch hat off for helmet. Could you imagine

2161
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 1: going back to in college, where's your helmet?

2162
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2163
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: I got a bike, Like.

2164
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: Just real, so fucking funny but he was really beast

2165
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: in that game. That was really real, unreal like the

2166
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 2: runs and the hits and things that like how you

2167
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: play the game, you know, like Marshaan like you was

2168
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 2: just at one player. I don't think that the Green

2169
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 2: Bay wanted to tackle him in some of those players

2170
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 2: later on the game, like especially in.

2171
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: The third, the fourth runs angry.

2172
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 2: He runs angry the whole time. So he was very

2173
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 2: like he was very instrumental us whinning that game was

2174
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 2: him taking over the game and him getting the ball more.

2175
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Now, where does he fit amongst running backs career?

2176
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 2: I would say that he's definitely Hall of Famer Ray.

2177
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: I think when you think about his time period, of

2178
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: the three running backs that were like the focal points

2179
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: at that time, which would be Adrian Peterson with Sean

2180
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,759
Speaker 2: McCoy and Marshaan Lynch, Like those are the three guys

2181
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 2: if you think about the twenty tens to those are

2182
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 2: the guys that you were here. But there were other

2183
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 2: guys who like do good for the season, but like consistently,

2184
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 2: these were the guys that were the most consistent. I

2185
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,839
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm leaving somebody out, but so Marshawn

2186
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 2: and his time period was definitely one of the best

2187
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 2: running backs.

2188
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: I agree, and.

2189
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Y'all probably when y'all was watching y'all, he's probably one

2190
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 2: of the key players that y'all talking about, because I

2191
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 2: don't know what are the key players that you guys

2192
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: are looking at when you guys are playing.

2193
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: We have to stop Marshawan on offense, we are as

2194
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: a team, you know, we had to stop Marshawan and

2195
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: then we had to get vertical against the defense because

2196
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: you guys swarmed so much in ball security. That was like,

2197
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: those are the three things that I'm just thinking off

2198
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: off dome. Yeah, he was a huge I mean, I

2199
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: loved watching Marshawan and we played him a bunch when

2200
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: he was in Buffalo, Yeah, you know what I mean,

2201
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,560
Speaker 1: So we we knew what he was about.

2202
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 2: And I feel like his game went to another level

2203
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 2: when he got.

2204
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: To without a doubt, but he was still he was

2205
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: still franchise. He was he was still running, he was

2206
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: still a first rounder, yeah, you know, and he just

2207
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: made crazy plays. He's always I wish I got to

2208
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: play with Marshawn. He seems like a fucking awesome teammates,

2209
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he.

2210
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 2: Shows up to all the kids' birthday parties, all the

2211
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 2: things he's.

2212
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: I could I could see if I was like if

2213
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: because guys are always up and down in the locker room,

2214
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: people don't realize we see each other at her worst

2215
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 1: and at our best.

2216
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 2: So that's the thing. I feel like people didn't connect

2217
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 2: to Russell about right because you got like a guy

2218
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 2: like Marshaw who kind of shows up to everything. Then

2219
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 2: maybe Russell doesn't show up to everything. And people started

2220
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 2: feeling a certain way, you know what I mean, because

2221
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: it's like everybody's showing up to everybody's things, but it's like, well,

2222
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 2: you're not coming, like but it's like you go to

2223
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:23,839
Speaker 2: everybody's birthday party, go to all kids' birthday parties, you know, weddings,

2224
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: all these different things. So like people want to see

2225
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 2: teammates invested in those type of things. And when people

2226
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 2: smell that, they can understand that something feels weird.

2227
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, what do you guys think about? What did

2228
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,799
Speaker 1: you think about? You guys grind back? You guys somehow

2229
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: get a touchdown for the because the offense wasn't doing

2230
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,440
Speaker 1: anything all day. The fake field goal, fake field goal touchdown.

2231
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: When you get that two point version. Are you sitting

2232
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: there like, well.

2233
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: At that time. I always believe that Russell Wilson was

2234
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: a great person who didn't really get overcome by anything.

2235
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 2: No matter how much noise he was here, how many

2236
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: things that was happening, he would be super focused, hyper focused.

2237
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 2: Like even in that situation, you know Bryce Young, I mean,

2238
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 2: for you know, he wouldn't do that. Like Bryce Young

2239
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 2: is saying that it's not his fault that he played bad.

2240
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, it was your fault, you know, Like like,

2241
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 2: but Russell will say that at that time, like you

2242
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 2: could see that he still had like he still wanted

2243
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 2: to win. Like he wasn't like going down. He was

2244
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 2: talking to himself, he was like really like he made

2245
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 2: some mistakes, but he definitely was like he wanted to.

2246
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: When his team needed and he made a couple of plays.

2247
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 2: Wanted to win.

2248
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like the resilience of that is was so

2249
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 4: incredible watching this and halftime he's two for nine twelve yards,

2250
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 4: three interceptions with a QBR of zero point zero.

2251
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 2: Like and then to come back and.

2252
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: When did you feel that you guys were gonna win

2253
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: this game? Was it the whole time?

2254
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought it was gonna win the whole time. Honestly,

2255
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 2: I felt like we was just a moment of time

2256
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: before we have that that win. I felt like when

2257
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,520
Speaker 2: they weren't capitalizing on all the interceptions and the turnovers,

2258
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 2: that eventually that we would get it and we'll figure out, like, man,

2259
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 2: maybe we should just start running the ball because it

2260
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 2: was kind of cold that day too.

2261
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 1: You guys, well, you guys ran the ball while you

2262
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: were down two scores of five minutes to go. Yeah,

2263
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: we got That's crazy to me. We got Marshall Lynch

2264
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: without a doubt, But we didn't do that in.

2265
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 2: The Super Bowl, which was never made sense to me.

2266
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm like watching the game like

2267
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 2: you watched that little part. It's like, well we thought

2268
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,839
Speaker 2: we do like they y'all was ready for the play offense,

2269
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 2: you know, like no, Mark, Yeah, I don't know what.

2270
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 2: We ran the ball in that game and believed that

2271
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Marshawn but Marshall and that game was just a tough

2272
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 2: game because Aaron Rodgers, like I said, you knew he's

2273
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 2: gonna be MVP. He had an incredible season, so like

2274
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: us stopping him in that scoring gave us a lot

2275
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 2: of opportunities to be able to win that game.

2276
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 4: That was huge there at the end, with like five left,

2277
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 4: Russell throws his fourth interception in the game. You're down

2278
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 4: to two scores, like, oh shit, and then the biggest

2279
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 4: I mean the biggest three and now you guys for

2280
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 4: us was you getting up the middle and getting through

2281
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 4: the lacy back to back times tackles for losses ends

2282
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 4: up third and sixteen forces that point, and like I.

2283
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: Was in my head, I was like, bro, I was like,

2284
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: they better not run this way because right now, like

2285
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 2: I was going to go for it, you know what

2286
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I was going to go through the

2287
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 2: person and go to make that play out. Didn't care.

2288
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 2: I was like, like some hulk shit, Yeah, some hawk shit.

2289
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 2: I was like like literally, it was like three people

2290
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 2: blocking me, and I like picked the tight end up

2291
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: through the full back down and then made the running back.

2292
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't care right now. I

2293
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 2: don't really care about my body at this moment. I

2294
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 2: really just want to win this game.

2295
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 4: And hell it blew off. It was like full warrior mode.

2296
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of playoff football because whether guys will

2297
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: say it or not, there are calculated risks during the

2298
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: regular season. In playoffs, all that's out. That's why it's

2299
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the most dangerous time to play, because guys don't give up.

2300
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: There's no tomorrow, No no tomorrow.

2301
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 2: Like I didn't care, like I know that tight end.

2302
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 2: Probably was like he's just gonna come off the ball, right.

2303
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, plus the tight ends. I never

2304
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 2: let tight ends block me because I just.

2305
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you can't let it. You can't let a

2306
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: tight end.

2307
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 4: Gronk was good, but you know, Gronka block. The Gronker

2308
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 4: block and after that, we love Gronk. After that that

2309
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 4: awesome sting. Only eighteen seconds come off the clock, score

2310
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 4: get the on side kick, which is crazy. Chris Matthew,

2311
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 4: he was mister the man.

2312
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: Did you guys remember practicing that You saw that in practice?

2313
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also was like Chris Matthews just had a

2314
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 2: great month. You know what I'm saying. If I was him,

2315
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: I would have played the lottery like every day, like

2316
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 2: you know what, like it's my time.

2317
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Why did he have a great month?

2318
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 2: He played so good in that game, He played great

2319
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. Yeah, and that he was like

2320
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: the champion of that game. Really, when we think about it.

2321
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 3: Sounds like one hundred and thirty scene that was most

2322
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 3: of his career. Yeah production, super yeah.

2323
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2324
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 4: And then Marshaan to the go ahead touchdown, leave it like.

2325
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 2: That was so second. The way he walked, he goes backwards.

2326
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: He always you could be he did it like while

2327
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: he was looking at the guy, did you see it?

2328
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 1: Like he didn't do it to the world.

2329
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: He didn't do it to the world, kind of diving backwards.

2330
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 1: Then he went and shook his guy's hands. He's like,

2331
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 1: but he did the whole my d before he did

2332
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: on a sneak.

2333
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he was thinking like that he was.

2334
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 2: Maybe he was. He was. He very one of the

2335
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: smart people ever.

2336
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 6: Man.

2337
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 4: I love Marshan. We got to get him on here.

2338
01:38:59,280 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: We got it.

2339
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 4: Then this thing goes into ot leave a little too

2340
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 4: much time on the clock, Mason Crosby Field, little forces

2341
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 4: over time. Russ and the boys get the kick or

2342
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 4: get the coin flip go down. Six plays, eighty seven yards,

2343
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 4: three minutes, nineteen seconds. Russ was three for three for

2344
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,520
Speaker 4: eighty yards with the walk off, Duddy.

2345
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 2: The walk off that changed my Jamaine cursed life right.

2346
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 2: That was a tough catch. Jermaine Curse is really one

2347
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 2: of the most underrated receivers.

2348
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: He loves those seam route.

2349
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2350
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 2: He's made a lot of big plays that people overlook,

2351
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, like the Malcolm play or the one where

2352
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 2: he like kicked the ball and caught it.

2353
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: Get the one again that was on Malcolm but oh yeah,

2354
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 1: like on the scene right in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

2355
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: where like yeah, because Malcolm had a great play on it.

2356
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 2: But Jamaica has a great hand eye coordination, like lay

2357
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 2: the ball in the area. Well, he's also like a

2358
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 2: really great golf player. He's a decent tennis player.

2359
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,879
Speaker 1: It can't beat me, but you get a tennis greater.

2360
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 2: Tennis Yeah, yeah, I punch cronk at the end.

2361
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the aftermath, let's get in after the uh Europe.

2362
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: So did you get a little you did your little

2363
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: bike thing? Do you remember when Marshawn did it with

2364
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: the field car in college?

2365
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 2: You know, I remember him doing that, but I was

2366
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 2: just like I was tired. I was like, let me

2367
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: get around this. You know, Black people and the police

2368
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 2: we don't really get along. It was like that was

2369
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 2: really kind of there was an opportunity to change the

2370
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 2: world if they would have just followed me on that.

2371
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 2: You know, what do you mean? Like I was.

2372
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: That a cop?

2373
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: That was a cop?

2374
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2375
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 2: I was like, give me your bike, I'm coming during this?

2376
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 2: Did he cool?

2377
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 1: He was cool?

2378
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 2: It was cool with it. I don't know if that

2379
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 2: would have happened if I was like on the streets

2380
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:32,879
Speaker 2: in Chicago.

2381
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 4: Let me click victory lap. Yeah, twenty eight twenty two,

2382
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 4: Just to clear that one up, Seattle with twenty eight

2383
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 4: to twenty two. You guys coming back from sixteen oh down,

2384
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 4: You guys are flying high big in the Super Bowls there.

2385
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a fun that's a fun feeling

2386
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 1: after like a close when we played the Chiefs and

2387
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 1: beat him on the road in eighteen, Like close games

2388
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship, you feel so exhilarate because you're

2389
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: you finally get to go to the last game. It's

2390
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: almost like certain teams once you like I remember when

2391
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I first went to the Super Bowl in ten eleven,

2392
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: like it was like we won because we were going

2393
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 1: and there were certain guys that are like, nah, we're

2394
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 1: not done.

2395
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's one of those things you realize, too,

2396
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 2: is like how hard it is to get to that

2397
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 2: whole level of Super Bowl and like trying to stay

2398
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 2: in the moment and actually getting there and like having

2399
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:28,679
Speaker 2: really playing a tough game, and then that second half

2400
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 2: really the Patriots really did a great job. So the

2401
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 2: aftermath was really interesting because I think that was one

2402
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 2: of those turning points. I think if we win that game,

2403
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 2: we probably would probably end up going to three Super

2404
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Bowls back to back, right. I think you know, the

2405
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: coming that following you was very difficult because it was

2406
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 2: like took the whole season to kind of like finally

2407
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 2: get together as one unit because everybody's pointy fingers of

2408
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 2: whose fault it was, but my my head, it was

2409
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 2: like it's everybody's fault if you lose. Honestly less, it's

2410
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 2: just like a really unique play where it's like comes

2411
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 2: down to it, but you know, we gave up points

2412
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 2: on defense, offense didn't score enough for it. We didn't

2413
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 2: do this just like everybody plays a role in it.

2414
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a team sport. It's that ultimate

2415
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 1: team sport. Eleven men have to do their job for

2416
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: five seconds and if one guy messes up, it could

2417
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: be a colossal funk up.

2418
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm choking Gronk on this one.

2419
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 1: So how what? What can we talk about this? How

2420
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: did this go?

2421
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just just like, man, fuck, they

2422
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 2: want you know what I'm saying, like let's fight. You

2423
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, let's just fight, Like who wouldn't fight?

2424
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like might as well at

2425
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 2: this point? What's gonna happen?

2426
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: It's just it's that theory that you don't know if

2427
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: you're like winning more than you hate this.

2428
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, man, like all that have to

2429
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 2: be here. Yeah, and I'll played really good this game

2430
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 2: and I was just like I was just like wanting

2431
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 2: to like yeah, but it all turns out it.

2432
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Is what it is now. Immediately after that game in

2433
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: locker room was here like it was shocked. Why did

2434
01:42:58,960 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: we not run it?

2435
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that was what everybody was thinking.

2436
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 1: Was that was that everyone's mind?

2437
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he still thinks. I think that's when

2438
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 2: you'll probably never say that, but I did. I bet

2439
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: in his head a little bit there, like he wonders

2440
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 2: if what happened if you just ran the ball?

2441
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: Right?

2442
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well, you guys can't speak down four?

2443
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: So it was third down? Was it third down second.

2444
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: I believe second time they had three downs at the two.

2445
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 2: I went through it to fourth down and we was all, yeah,

2446
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 2: so most likely we did two quarterback sneaks. Yeah.

2447
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: That sorry that, I'm thankful that the right. Yeah, legacy,

2448
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: the Mount Rushworths defenders. After that one, I think there's

2449
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: still and you still got Earl Thomas.

2450
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 2: Earl Tummins probably goes down as one of the best safeties.

2451
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 2: I think it will take them a little bit too.

2452
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 2: You know, everything that kind of happened at the end

2453
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 2: will be shaky, But I think he still is a

2454
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. I think Sharon for short Sherman has

2455
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 2: done a great job and retire and career all things

2456
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 2: he's done is in football, Bobby for sure, Like kJ

2457
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 2: is really good, Cliff was great, Cam was great. Like

2458
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 2: There's a lot of great defenders on that team.

2459
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: It's just the whole defense is the Legion of Boom,

2460
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: the whole the whole defense is on the wall.

2461
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 2: The whole defense is on the wall. Take a great

2462
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 2: defense to win it?

2463
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:19,679
Speaker 1: Does?

2464
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 2: I think, where do we go with the best defensive history?

2465
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? Where does this go in the best.

2466
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,639
Speaker 2: Some people say some people say number one and number

2467
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:26,719
Speaker 2: two depends what you asked.

2468
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: Compete with what eighty five bears?

2469
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 2: Eighty five Bears are the Ravens.

2470
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: Ravens two thousand Ravens.

2471
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's statistically we were kind of the best.

2472
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,440
Speaker 2: We look at statistic wise.

2473
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 1: How which statistics show that.

2474
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 2: Scoring, running, passing turn? You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

2475
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 2: so I don't know, some could say, some could say,

2476
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a fucking tough defense. You had

2477
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 2: to earn everything. You had to play so precise. Any

2478
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 2: fuck up against that defense, they made you pay. The

2479
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 2: thing I loved about that defense too is just the competitiveess.

2480
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 2: It really was the practice, not really the games, Like

2481
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 2: it was just really just like the amount of compete

2482
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 2: the mount people compete at practice, Like that's crazy when

2483
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 2: you think about like Sharan like really trying to intercept Doug,

2484
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 2: Like the defense is super great, Like well the forty

2485
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 2: nineis was good too, though, So I don't know that

2486
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 2: one time the forty nineers had a really great defense

2487
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 2: with all the smith justin Smith, Patrick Willis in the

2488
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 2: bar ball Man.

2489
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they always have a good deal, Like they

2490
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 1: still have a good defense, but like I don't know

2491
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: what's up with their defense. Right now, they can't stop

2492
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 1: the run. They got to stop the run. They lost

2493
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 1: Armstead what's his name? Hardgrave just got hurt, didn't he.

2494
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, stopping a run is a decision. I think they

2495
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:42,600
Speaker 2: made pass rushing so important to overlook defense. Like some

2496
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 2: people will be like, oh, I want a guy who

2497
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 2: if I'm a defensive coordinator, I think a guy who

2498
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 2: gets between ten and fifteen sacks and has like twenty

2499
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 2: five TFLs and like a lot of quarterback hits and

2500
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 2: disruptive more than a guy who has like twenty sections.

2501
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: All he does is rush up the field, get the sack.

2502
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 2: But it's like, that's my problem with Michael Parson. Michael

2503
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 2: Parsons Right when you watch some of the games, it's

2504
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 2: like he's a really good defender, but like there's some

2505
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 2: things they can improve in on the run game. Like

2506
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 2: even when you watch the game against the Ravens, like

2507
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 2: there was plays where you know he was supposed to

2508
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 2: be in the gap and you could see him like

2509
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 2: over pursuing. But he's a smaller guy front playing defensive line.

2510
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like sometimes with the defenders,

2511
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 2: like when you to get better at the run game,

2512
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 2: keep his sack total, like he gets like eighteen sacks,

2513
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: Like let's just get fifteen and like let's get you

2514
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 2: thirty TFLs. You know what I'm saying, Like let's be

2515
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,679
Speaker 2: in the field. Like JJ Watt was really good because

2516
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 2: JJ Way had a lot of TFLs when you look

2517
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 2: at the end of the season, like he had a

2518
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 2: lot of plays behind the line, scrimmage in the run game,

2519
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 2: like it was kind of overlooked.

2520
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he was never overlooked when we played them.

2521
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: We played them, but you know, I'm just saying, like

2522
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 2: people talk about his pass rusher, but but yeah, a lot.

2523
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: Of I think that's what made him mean better than

2524
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: a pass rusher.

2525
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 2: He was just an overall player like Terrell Suggs. Like

2526
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 2: you look at the end of the year, like those

2527
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 2: guys were overall good players to where it was like

2528
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 2: they were just great defenders. They weren't great pass rushers,

2529
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 2: great defenders every day guys that could do it all

2530
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 2: and get to the back of the quarterback to get

2531
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 2: to hits. They could have TFLs like it would always

2532
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 2: have twenty five plus TFLs, you know.

2533
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: I Mean, that's that's how Bill looks at it. I

2534
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: feel just because like anytime we'd always have an outside

2535
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: guy come in and join our defense, I get out

2536
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: like they would always get mad like we have too

2537
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: much response, like they're not even going for a goddamn sack,

2538
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because we would have a

2539
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 1: thing where you keep him in the pocket making beat

2540
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: them with the defense. You know, there's always like a

2541
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 1: strategic thing of the defensive line rush where we were

2542
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 1: at as you probably can talk to, where a lot

2543
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: of guys were like, that's not how we what I

2544
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 1: came from.

2545
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 2: No, no, exactly, but I would say that's the thing

2546
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 2: I al would say that when I watch football now,

2547
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 2: you see a lot of guys like even like Derrick Henry,

2548
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 2: a lot of those runs are just guys kind of

2549
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: just being out being out the gap, like you know,

2550
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 2: the purposely, No, I think. I think sometimes it's just

2551
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 2: like when they running those stretch plays or they double

2552
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 2: up on the office and line where they like where

2553
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 2: you get nudged by the tackle or the tackles working

2554
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 2: his way up to the to the linebacker, or you

2555
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 2: are two I and the center bumps you and he's

2556
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 2: on the way to the mic. You know what I'm saying, like,

2557
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: and they isolating DB's on some of those crunch plays.

2558
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Nobody likes those crunch plays where where you're making the

2559
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 2: cornerback tackle. It was a hard place to stop. You know,

2560
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 2: you look at look at that type of defense, and

2561
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 2: then you got a good blocking receivers. It's hard.

2562
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 1: It's a decision, like you said, you said, blocking the

2563
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:22,719
Speaker 1: runs the decision.

2564
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, life is a decision when you come out to football.

2565
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 2: You choosing violence or violence is choosing you.

2566
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: To choose the violence.

2567
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 2: Or choose the violence on the football field. The football field,

2568
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 2: not on the off the field, on the field.

2569
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: In sports, we missed anything about this game.

2570
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 2: No, I think you got it right. I think this

2571
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:42,640
Speaker 2: is one of the It'll go down as one of

2572
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 2: the most one of the greatest Division championship games because

2573
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 2: it came down to like two great teams. The great

2574
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 2: offense did what the great offense was supposed to do,

2575
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,600
Speaker 2: and then at the end, the great defense did what

2576
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 2: it was supposed to do. And to end up with

2577
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 2: one team just making one more play than an other.

2578
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: Dude, I couldn't agree more. It was so fun going

2579
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: back and watching this game, you know, because I don't

2580
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 1: really remember. I didn't remember it as much because I

2581
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: was in the AFC, But going back and seeing this,

2582
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: like we we may never see a game like that

2583
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: again because the on site kicks and and you know

2584
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, we you can't get an on side

2585
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 1: kick nowadays, It's fucking impossible. You gotta declare this certain

2586
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: amount of guys can't be over here, this like that

2587
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 1: with the interceptions. It's just it was a fun game

2588
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 1: to redive into. And I appreciate you fucking coming into

2589
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: a timer.

2590
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

2591
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break anything.

2592
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 4: Uh wait, well I got one note here before we go.

2593
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 4: The quest is what we were trying to think of

2594
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:52,679
Speaker 4: earlier with John Claude Van dam Baby West nineteen ninety six.

2595
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 4: Just like you said, shout out John Cloud Vandam.

2596
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 2: Jean Clum Van damn you mak at John CoV VANDAM

2597
01:49:58,439 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 2: on the show.

2598
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we got to that would be. I

2599
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: wonder what would he do like a soccer game.

2600
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure he watch football. He was in America and

2601
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: the time, hanging out with like like a fighting match.

2602
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 4: I don't care if you read the bumbos. I'll let

2603
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 4: him in here, do.

2604
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: Real quick before we wrap this thing up. We gotta

2605
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: name the game. What's the name of this game we have?

2606
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be any of this. We have

2607
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 1: the Victory Lap game, give me the Bike Game, the

2608
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:26,560
Speaker 1: Danger Russ Game, Bennett's Bike Ride Game, or could it

2609
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: be a different game name?

2610
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 2: The name of that game would be.

2611
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:34,919
Speaker 1: Out of someone very artistic, like you expect something really creative.

2612
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 2: No pressure, which is brew?

2613
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Which is brew?

2614
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 2: Miles Davis. What's a lot of things in that game?

2615
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 2: A brew of competition, a brew of offenses, defenses.

2616
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: Plays by everything, the Witches Brew game. It would be

2617
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: one of the best names we ever heard. Love, Let's

2618
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 1: score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time?

2619
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:58,759
Speaker 1: Let's score it. Michael steaks zero to ten decimals, Okay,

2620
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:00,600
Speaker 1: the stakes of this game, it.

2621
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 2: Was definitely a ten that sticks ten.

2622
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: Tend to go to the Super Bowl. Star Power start.

2623
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: I'll go nine. Star power of this game ninety two

2624
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 1: nine star power nine nine. I'll give it a nine, Aaron,

2625
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a lot of Hall of Famers

2626
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 1: in this back kind of seven nine out of.

2627
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: Eight one, hey one, what is it? What do you?

2628
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 2: What do you call stars. I got what is it?

2629
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 2: What's a ten star game? For me? That's like the

2630
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 2: that's the worst star power. Honestly, not a lot effort. Being.

2631
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall would argue that the opposite, because when he

2632
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 1: came on this show, he talked about his Pro Bowl

2633
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: game that he got a m vpn B Mars.

2634
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 2: You gotta start with it, stop, Chevy Trunk. Got to

2635
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 2: start with that ship man.

2636
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:47,839
Speaker 1: The game player of this game.

2637
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,640
Speaker 2: The game play. I would say ten because of the

2638
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 2: amount of between nine nine. I say nine nine, nine

2639
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 2: point five because I feel like it was like it

2640
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 2: was like it took a lot to come back, like

2641
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 2: high level, like it was a lot of players make

2642
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 2: big plays, like those interceptions. Those players made those plays.

2643
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 2: They weren't just thrown interceptions. Those guys make great.

2644
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Plays without a doubt. You know, I'm an offensive guy.

2645
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: I have a little bias. I want to see some points.

2646
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: But if you're a real football person, this had I mean,

2647
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: this had special teams, touchdown, special teams, fumbles, over time.

2648
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 2: Everybody was involved, everyone was in.

2649
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: It's the Witch's brew game. So I'm gonna go with

2650
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 1: the eight point seven. So funny, he.

2651
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 9: Choked recovered in the game. That's gonna be a high score.

2652
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 9: I got an eight point nine out of nine point one.

2653
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 2: We're all in the same region there.

2654
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: And the name of the game. You have to grade

2655
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the name.

2656
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 2: I think a ten for because I made it up

2657
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: so ten.

2658
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with an eight point eight.

2659
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 3: Jack had a seven eye of six.

2660
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 4: I scored this before I knew we were calling her,

2661
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 4: which is but what is it?

2662
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 2: What is it?

2663
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Land?

2664
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 3: This is an eight point seven.

2665
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: This is gonna land high.

2666
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 2: It's gotta change. I gotta change the metrics with the name.

2667
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 2: Now that you guys give me, I'd like to bump

2668
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 2: it up a little bit.

2669
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 3: Eight point seventy five.

2670
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 1: This puts us really point seventy three.

2671
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 9: This puts US tied with the nineteen ninety nine Women's

2672
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 9: World Cup China versus the USA.

2673
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 2: That was a good game. Yeah, just me and.

2674
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 1: Him was in that one, right, Yeah the Rose Brandy

2675
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: chest Hain't took your shirt off? Yeah, oh yeah, we

2676
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: had her on the show. She was awesome.

2677
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 3: Tied for six. This is a great game. This is

2678
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 3: not really a great game. It's a great spot for

2679
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 3: this game.

2680
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 2: That's it. Thank you, Thank you man.

2681
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 1: Michael anything else, no, no, thank you guy. You gotta

2682
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 1: plug anything? No, no, man, Well, I appreciate you coming in.

2683
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:36,839
Speaker 1: And I hope the the college looks with your daughters

2684
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: go great.

2685
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would go good. I think it would be good.

2686
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:40,599
Speaker 2: I'm getting old.

2687
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: Now, that's gotta be a I mean hit me the

2688
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 1: other day when.

2689
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, buy her car and like stuff.

2690
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 2: I'm just like, damn going on college tours, man, Like

2691
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 2: this is the last time this this October second, is

2692
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 2: the last time you'd be in the house. What else

2693
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 2: you know? I was like, that's real, man, crime.

2694
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: The days are long, but the years are sure. Yeah,

2695
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 1: the days are long. Well, thank you so much, man,

2696
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be awesome. Man, he was awesome. He's

2697
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:17,839
Speaker 1: he's just that family. They're so like they're really smart people.

2698
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: Him and Marty Michael, like, I think they're a little misunderstood.

2699
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:26,759
Speaker 1: He's He's I think they're like brilliant people.

2700
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 9: They're like interesting human beings who happened to be football players.

2701
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 1: But they powerful. But like you know, Michael loves football

2702
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: like he was he's for sure watching you listen to

2703
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 1: how he was breaking down the game. He watches the game. Like,

2704
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's making up a cool chair right

2705
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: now and and some cool rugs on his own. But

2706
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, when it's Sunday front or Monday, he's watching

2707
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 1: the football game. He loves football.

2708
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 4: You respect losing, so you can understand winning.

2709
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 1: You respect.

2710
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 4: Michael Bennett said that on the pod today, A profound, profound.

2711
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 4: We gotta put that on a crochet that onto a pillow,

2712
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 4: put it on the couch something, because that is that's

2713
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 4: an all time quote from the Nuthouse.

2714
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: I love that. Let's put it on a pillow.

2715
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 4: What a guy, I mean, so talented he I'll.

2716
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 1: Make a pillow out of it.

2717
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 2: Studio cre check it out.

2718
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 4: Man, he is one talented dude, and I liked it.

2719
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 4: A man of taste such as himself gave us the

2720
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 4: coast sign.

2721
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 1: He gave me the baby. He saw the Nutthouse. He's like,

2722
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: this is tasteful, real recognize real bait. Hey, champagne taste

2723
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 1: with a beer budget. Yeah, facts, champagne taste with a

2724
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 1: beer budget.

2725
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 4: Hey, you got a gum guy, bro, you got that,

2726
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 4: you got that champagne budget.

2727
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 3: Georget George Constana, have a gum guy.

2728
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 2: A gum go.

2729
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 3: I gotta look that up. I should Jerry did here.

2730
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: He had a oh yeah, down in like you got dip.

2731
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that dip guys for years now, But I ain't

2732
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: that rich. What's hit the hotline?

2733
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 2: Guys?

2734
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: Go again? That number is four two four two nine

2735
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 1: one two two nine zero.

2736
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Julian, I love your show, but everyone knows the

2737
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 2: greatest game of.

2738
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 6: All time is the Ice Bowl.

2739
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Ice Bowl.

2740
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:10,839
Speaker 6: All a couple of them are still around.

2741
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 2: You need to get some Lombardi era Packers on their

2742
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 2: show to discuss the Ice Bowl. Thank you.

2743
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred zillion percent. We need that. That'd

2744
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 1: be awesome to hear about the Gridiron game that I

2745
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 1: love by one of the founding fathers.

2746
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty seven, December thirty first Lambeaufield, Baby Green Bay

2747
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 4: Packers Dallas Cowboys twenty one seventeen.

2748
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 2: The Packers edge them out.

2749
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 4: Still the coldest game in NFL history on record minus

2750
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 4: forty eight degrees fahrenheit with the wind shill.

2751
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: Remember what.

2752
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 3: That's one of the first games on the ESPN Classic.

2753
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: I would watch.

2754
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: It was awesome.

2755
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 9: Remember the ton the story were like, the like not

2756
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 9: to make this racial, but the white players were like

2757
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 9: jealous of the black players because the black players could

2758
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:04,839
Speaker 9: wear like gloves.

2759
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 3: They had these like black gloves they could.

2760
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 9: Wear and the coaches couldn't tell it was there, so

2761
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 9: they wear gloves on all the white guy's hands were freezing.

2762
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I wish you would have said that in fort of Michael.

2763
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. Everyone you know

2764
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 1: who gold.

2765
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 3: You know who went to this game, was at this game.

2766
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 9: Ernie, probably Willem Dafoe, you know, Willem to the actor,

2767
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 9: I feel.

2768
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 4: Like green Goblin baby, yeah, Goblin, yeah, shout out Florida project.

2769
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 2: He was.

2770
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 9: He was at this game. There's an NFL film story

2771
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 9: about it.

2772
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 13: We gotta get him. Let's get to get him. On

2773
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 13: the top of that screw an old packard. I want

2774
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 13: Will to just go, dude, great question, what a legend, bro.

2775
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 4: We should do some more old old psychos.

2776
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 2: I like that.

2777
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 6: Call h my name is friend.

2778
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 14: I actually want to leave a message for truth his mom.

2779
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 14: I actually met her your rookie year. We set down

2780
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 14: to then earned the back hallways of the stadium. I

2781
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 14: didn't know who she was at first, but we were training.

2782
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 14: We were training, uh, showing each other what we were

2783
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 14: bought at the poor shop and then you came over

2784
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 14: and said hello.

2785
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: So say hello to her.

2786
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 2: She's a very very sweet woman.

2787
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 1: Well bent down. Tell my mama hello for you. Bob

2788
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: Brens is hello mom to meet loaf Mom.

2789
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 2: What is she doing back there?

2790
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Never know what she's doing?

2791
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 4: Shout out Angiere, she is actually here.

2792
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 1: She's actually here.

2793
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 6: Hi Ju, Hi Kyler, Hi Jack. This is what you

2794
01:58:55,280 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 6: call it. I'm making a recommendation. I think you guys

2795
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 6: should get Stone Stuston on the pod if you can.

2796
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 6: You literally talked about anything. I think, like football, like

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01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 6: Texas and you're from Texas or something I don't know,

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01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 6: or some old matches. I don't care. I just wanted

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01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 6: to cuss him by on the pod. I love you guys,

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01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 6: are grabbing you today. I can't wait to listen to

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01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 6: the pod some more.

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01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: All right, bye, Wow, Whitney, I couldn't agree with you anymore.

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01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 1: Stone Cold Steve Austin was my favorite wrestler. Same as

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01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 1: a kid. I used to drink two freaking cokes and

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01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 1: slam them after And that's the bottom line, because Stone

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01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: Cold said so Austin three sixteen, just.

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01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 2: Whooped your ass.

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01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 4: I still remember one of my earliest disappointments kindergarten, Miss

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01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 4: Henry's class.

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01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 2: Shout out Miss Henry.

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01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 4: When I my mom told me I could not go

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01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 4: as stone Cold Steve Austin for career day. Her point was,

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02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 4: that's a that's a man, not a career. I still

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02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 4: don't get the distinction.

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02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 1: That's bullshit.

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02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 4: I am so pissed, bro.

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02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: He goes a doctor, a doctor.

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02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't go with stone Cold Steve Austin for

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02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,720
Speaker 4: career to day. You know what, that's bull I know, Bro,

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02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 4: I think you.

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02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: Should be able to.

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02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 2: I know.

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02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 4: I just have to get him in the nuthouse then,

2824
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 4: you know, my guy, we're gonna have to.

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02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 1: We might have to start doing some wrestling moves and

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02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 1: and try to join the w W to prove that

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02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: teacher wrong.

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02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 2: That's right, bro, just.

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02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 3: Asking eight year old Jack, what do you want to

2830
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 3: be when he grew up five year old?

2831
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 2: I want to be him. Yeah, what do you mean?

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02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 1: That's a man.

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02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 2: That's my career path.

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02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 1: Baby, you gotta get we gotta get stone Cold on.

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02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 1: He has to, he'd be electric. I don't want to

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02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 1: be with him. Is he sober?

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02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 2: No, he's got his own beer. We've had it.

2838
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 1: We've got to we need to get on the beer.

2839
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:55,160
Speaker 4: And I want to hear I love ar theme music,

2840
02:00:55,160 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 4: but we're just having the glass shatter everything. Oh Man, Whitney,

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02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 4: I could not agree more.

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02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 1: We agree, Whitney.

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02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 9: We get some let's just say, interesting voicemails that kind

2844
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 9: of start off the same. I'm so glad this one

2845
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 9: went to a better place. Yeah, you know, they're like,

2846
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 9: HI usually goes to a bad place. This one Stone

2847
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:17,600
Speaker 9: called Steve Austin.

2848
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 4: Good place, good place, good place.

2849
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 2: Thee snake always a good place.

2850
02:01:22,840 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Zang quays world Korean? Right? Is it Korean?

2851
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 2: Was a Filipino?

2852
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 1: Can't can't?

2853
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 4: Can't? Antony's yes, what's your name? Uh?

2854
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: Cassandra she rocked?

2855
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? And what's his name?

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02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 4: Rob Low was trying to try to usurp.

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02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The showfield, well, what a fun game to

2858
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 1: go back down high scoring, high scoring. But that was

2859
02:01:54,440 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 1: a I forget. I forgot about that game. So it's

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02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 1: great about this podcast. You get to relive the game again.

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02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 4: Seriously. Oh and with Mike, what a guy. Michael been

2862
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 4: an awesome guy. Thanks again to Michael Bennett. You know,

2863
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:09,840
Speaker 4: I wish them the best luck with him and his family.

2864
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 4: I'm finding university for his little daughters. He's such a

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02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 4: family guy.

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02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 1: Awesome. Nope, Peter spent the day here, but my mom

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02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 1: didn't wear them out, almost sitting back with them. But

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02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: that's been another episode of Games with Names. Subscribe on

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02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:29,040
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2870
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 1: a game you want us to do and remember, rate

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02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:39,560
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02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 1: at four two four two nine to one two two

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Speaker 1: nine zero. We'll see you guys next week later. Games

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02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,560
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02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:56,400
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