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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 2: And this is Joe McCormick. And today on Weird House Cinema,

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Speaker 2: we are going to be talking about a movie that

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Speaker 2: has two faces, but one slimy toxic heart, and that

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Speaker 2: is the nineteen sixty two English language version of the

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Speaker 2: euro kaiju movie Reptilicous, directed by Sidney Pink. Now, one

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Speaker 2: thing to mention right at the beginning here is that

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Speaker 2: this movie is kind of weird. There exists two different

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Speaker 2: versions of the film, one in English and one in Danish,

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Speaker 2: and neither one is simply a dub of the other.

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Speaker 2: There were actually two different movies shot separately, but sharing

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Speaker 2: the same story and most of the same cast, but

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Speaker 2: with different lines in each language and two different directors.

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Speaker 2: So the Danish version you'll get was directed by Paul

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Speaker 2: Bong and the English version by Sidney Pink, the latter

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Speaker 2: of which, again is the one we're going to be

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Speaker 2: talking about today. Both of these movies have the same

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Speaker 2: basic storyline, the same scenes overall. Both films are set

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Speaker 2: in Denmark and concern Danish paleontologists attempting to investigate the

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Speaker 2: remains of a giant frozen dinosaur tale uncovered from deep underground,

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Speaker 2: which eventually turns into a big dragon thing is named Reptilicus,

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Speaker 2: and then just goes nuts on Denmark, runs around eating

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Speaker 2: cows and attacking people at the beach, attacking the city,

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Speaker 2: attacking famous beautiful landmarks that you should visit by the way,

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Speaker 2: if you're ever in scene at Copenhagen. And yeah, and

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Speaker 2: so this is a giant monster movie like many others

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Speaker 2: we've talked about before, but with I don't know, some

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Speaker 2: interesting distinctions we can get into as we go along.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess you could say it's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the situation with nineteen thirty one's Dracula, where

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Speaker 1: you have the Mexican version that is shot on the

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Speaker 1: same sets, though that one doesn't have the same actors.

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Speaker 1: This one has almost exclusively the same actors. They're just

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Speaker 1: we just have them delivering their lines in different languages

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Speaker 1: in separate shots.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. It would be like if the thirty one Todd

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Speaker 2: Browning Dracula and then the Spanish language version were It

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Speaker 2: would be like that situation if they used mostly the

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Speaker 2: same cast, but not entirely.

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Speaker 1: If they had been like okay, Bella, how's your Spanish,

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Speaker 1: that they went a different direction. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Now we were talking about something before we came on, Mike,

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Speaker 2: which is that I think both of us really enjoyed

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Speaker 2: watching Reptilicus. But I do have to be honest about

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Speaker 2: this one and not over sell any of its individual merits,

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Speaker 2: because I don't think it has a lot of extreme

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Speaker 2: merits in any particular direction. I would not honestly be

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Speaker 2: able to say that this is a great idea or

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Speaker 2: a great script. I would not honestly.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we can say, like the story's kind of weak,

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Speaker 2: but it's got a great cast. No offense to any

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Speaker 2: of the wonderful cast members involved here, but it is

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Speaker 2: not an especially stand out screen presence we're dealing with

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Speaker 2: with anybody here. The I would say, even the special

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Speaker 2: effects are not really that impressive. They're they're enjoyable in

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Speaker 2: a certain way, but none of the they're not even

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Speaker 2: on the level of Gorgo, which we'll get to in

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Speaker 2: a minute. So there is really no element of this

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Speaker 2: that's really great. And yet overall, I love Reptilicus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a charming picture, like it's a feel

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Speaker 1: good monster picture, and the areas where it's rough around

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Speaker 1: the edges adds to its charm. But indeed, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to recommend it to folks unless you are looking for

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Speaker 1: a picture like this. You gotta be on board for

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Speaker 1: something that has this vibe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So maybe despite not being stellar filmmaking in any

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Speaker 2: particular direction, Reptilicus has many appealing things. One of them

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Speaker 2: is just the word reptilicus, which is one of the

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Speaker 2: most pleasing words to say that I've ever come across.

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Speaker 2: I discovered before we came in to record. I was

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Speaker 2: walking around the house with my wife, and I discovered

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Speaker 2: that the word reptilicus has the same stress pattern as

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Speaker 2: the word america, and then for that reason, can be

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Speaker 2: subbed into any song lyrics containing the word America. So like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Reptilicus the beautiful. I'm proud to be a reptilicon.

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Speaker 2: They've all gone to look for reptilicus and so forth.

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Speaker 2: So you know, take reptilicus into your vocabulary and use

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Speaker 2: it with whatever gusto you please, But I will say

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Speaker 2: another big appeal of Reptilicus for me is conceptual. For

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Speaker 2: some reason, audiences seem to have long reacted to this

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Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty one, so right around the same time period.

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Speaker 2: each other, And Gorgo was a movie in which an

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Speaker 2: enormous rat like god monster emerges from the sea off

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Speaker 2: the coast of an Irish island, is captured and transported

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Speaker 2: for display in a London circus, and then triggers a

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Speaker 2: rat god amphibious attack from the Thames. Yes, and so

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Speaker 2: of course no one language or culture owns the idea

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Speaker 2: literature of many different cultures deep into history. But I

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Speaker 2: think it's safe to say that Japan in general and

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Speaker 2: Toho Studios in particular really grew and perfected the art

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Speaker 2: of the giant monster movie, though of course, the creators

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Speaker 2: of films like the nineteen fifty four Godzilla were inspired

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Speaker 2: at least in part by American films like RKO's King Kong.

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Speaker 2: So there's plenty of trading back and forth of inspiration

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Speaker 2: and creative energy across borders, as there always has been.

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Speaker 2: But many of the greatest and most enduring giant monster

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Speaker 2: movies ever made are Toho productions from Japan, and in

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Speaker 2: the Gorko episode, I think we had a brief discussion

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Speaker 2: inherently funny or counterintuitive for a giant monster to attack

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Speaker 2: of today's movie, in Denmark, in a way that it's

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Speaker 2: just not counterintuitive or funny for that to happen in Japan, or,

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Speaker 2: for that matter, in the United States. So like a

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Speaker 2: out of the copper minds and attacks Copenhagen. That just

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Speaker 2: makes people laugh. And I feel this as well, but

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Speaker 2: I don't quite fully understand it. I was trying to

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Speaker 2: think of reasons. And I was thinking, maybe it's as

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Speaker 2: simple as this is the only Danish kaiju movie that

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Speaker 2: I know of, so it's just unfamiliar. If there were

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Speaker 2: more of them, it would feel normal. Or maybe it's

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Speaker 2: something about the like the cultural or geographic setting that

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Speaker 2: just doesn't interface as naturally with the soul of a

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Speaker 2: but I do think it's it's interesting that people quite

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Speaker 2: consistently have this reaction, So it's just something to think about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think part of it is that from very

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Speaker 1: it would we would maybe expect, like Copenhagen have its

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Speaker 1: own thing, like I don't know, like you know, killer

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Speaker 1: mermaids come out and attack Copenhagen. That tracks, Oh that'd

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Speaker 1: be great. But I mean, but then from Danish perspective,

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Speaker 1: why not Copenhagen As we learn in this film, it's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful city with a lot to offer.

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Speaker 2: That's all right. I was not able to research this

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Speaker 2: like the I don't know local the Copenhagen Tourism Board

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Speaker 2: or something was a producer on this film, if they

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Speaker 2: put some funding into it, because there is a segment

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Speaker 2: too good to believe just travel brochure for the city

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Speaker 2: of covid Look at all of the beautiful local landmarks.

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Speaker 2: You can visit the swinging you know, nightlife district. Oh,

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Speaker 2: check out this gorgeous bridge and fountain. Great place to

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Speaker 2: take the kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything that they say during this ten minute travel

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Speaker 1: brochure section of the film, you could easily imagine Rick

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Speaker 1: Steet's saying all of it in an episode of his

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Speaker 1: show or his podcast Love Rick Steeves by the way,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I can imagine him saying, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: many people say that Danes were born on their bicycles

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Speaker 1: and when you travel through Copenhagen and so forth.

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Speaker 2: And it it ends with a scene of it's like

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but they go out

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Speaker 2: and like watch a musical number, and we watch too.

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Speaker 1: But I love that the film felt as if the

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Speaker 1: film knew that American audiences might say, why Copenhagen, and

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Speaker 1: so here's the answer, Here's why Copenhagen.

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Speaker 2: The surprisingly sober themes that come out of some of

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Speaker 2: consciously silly, just some good wholesome atomic beast rastling, but

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Speaker 2: other Kaiju movies have some pretty serious ideas in mind,

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Speaker 2: it's well known that the original fifty four Godzilla obviously

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Speaker 2: some pretty clear environmental themes, like the idea that we

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Speaker 2: have polluted the earth, and the Earth is striking back

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but we could come back to this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if they're there, it's a very and we can

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Speaker 1: always speak to the American version here, something like this

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Speaker 1: could be more stressed in the Danish version. But I

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Speaker 1: got maybe mild vibes of the importance of international cooperation

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Speaker 1: against threats, regenerative threats, but it's it's very shallow, it's

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Speaker 2: Okay, should we hear some trailer audio?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Sure? My? Oh my elevator pitch. By the way,

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Speaker 1: is springboarding off? Is something you said? Is they're coming

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Speaker 1: to Reptilicus today. I'm not going to sing it because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get pained for that anyway. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the US trailer for this is pretty fun. Let's have

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Speaker 4: Somewhere in the Forbidding Tundra mountains of Lapland, high above

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Speaker 4: the Arctic Circle, a group of mining engineers were prospecting

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Speaker 4: for copper. But what they on earth was a story,

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Speaker 4: a story that was to terrorize the whole world. Fossil bones.

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Speaker 3: I have never seen bone fragments like this before.

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Speaker 4: I'll work with the army through Captain Brant, Commander Svenson,

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Speaker 4: you'll buy for any naval action required. As chief of police,

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Speaker 4: I'll rely on you to handle the population. Handled Grayson

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Speaker 4: where day out of his way? How long do you

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: If you want to go out and watch Reptilicus yourself,

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Speaker 1: we encourage you to do so. The Vinegar Syndrome Blu

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Speaker 1: ray is clearly the best choice here, features a restored

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Speaker 1: as the original Danish version, or I guess it's the original.

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Speaker 2: like communists are infiltrating Britain by way of a secret train. Yeah,

435
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: which is okay, but then yeah, so there were many

436
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: adaptations of this plot, and one of them is this

437
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: one that has Dirt Passer in it, who I don't

438
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: remember which character he plays.

439
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, he ends up on some of the promotional

440
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: materials for it because he had that very expressive face,

441
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: which I think he could use for sort of terror

442
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: as well as comedy, like he could open his mouth

443
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: really wide, and yeah, I was instantly impressed by those stills,

444
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: Like you know, you see a still like that and

445
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: you're like, who is this hyper expressive actor. Indeed, he

446
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: was a pretty legendary within the Danish world of entertainment

447
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: as an actor, a kind of a character actor, but

448
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: also as a comedian, noted for his improv skills and

449
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: apparently also just really explosive loud performances. Though in his

450
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: private life, as is often the case, you know, he

451
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: was said to be a very quiet, reserved man, huh,

452
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: that's funny, but on the stage a loud speaker for

453
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: the absurdity of the human condition. He was also apparently

454
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: had a clown act and famously slash tragically died in

455
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: his clown makeup. He suffered cardiac arrest in the midstore

456
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: immediately following a performance, and so, you know, I guess

457
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: this is one of the things that cannot help but

458
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: sort of add to one's legendary status. But he's apparently

459
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 1: highly influential within the Danish acting world, and I can

460
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: see why. Like this is a guy that even in

461
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: this small, you know, just comedic role, like he stands

462
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: out like he's the main actor that sticks in my

463
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: mind from this picture.

464
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: Agreed, there are some shots where as we were discussing,

465
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: he has a bit of a Stephen King in the

466
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: eighties energy going on. Yeah, he brings with him the

467
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: great suggestion of tom foolery soon to follow. Like when

468
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: he's walking down the hall and you see the eel tank,

469
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: you just know before it even happens, is like he's

470
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: going to end up at least part of his body

471
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: is going to be in that eel tank.

472
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, thank goodness it happens. But again we'll just

473
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: going to prepare you for disappointment. He does just disappear

474
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: at some point in the film and does not come

475
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: back for more comedic misapps.

476
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: They should have had him defeat Reptilicus.

477
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: I would have bought it. Yeah, he seemed like a

478
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: big guy. I think he could handled it all right. Finally,

479
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: the music for this picture of the US version anyway,

480
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: it's another Less Baxter score. I lived nineteen twenty two

481
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: through nineteen ninety six. We've talked about him numerous times

482
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: for some of his very traditional scores, his weird score

483
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: for a very minimalist electronic score for Frogs in the seventies.

484
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: This is another film score by the master of exotica

485
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: music that I guess mostly doesn't hit any exotica notes,

486
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: at least until the very end, right, it gets a

487
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: little exotica right there at the end.

488
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: No, there's some I mean, so, there's nothing wrong with

489
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: the music in this movie except the way it is

490
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: matched with what's happening on screen, like persistently funny music

491
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: choices throughout. It'll have these these like stings and stings,

492
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: the orchestra stings that are timed strangely. It'll have the

493
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: use of like blustery march music like seventy six trombones

494
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: kind of marches playing over scenes where it doesn't feel

495
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: like it makes any sense, just like a car's pulling

496
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: up to a building. And then one of the funniest

497
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: things is like right at the end, when they're looking

498
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: out over the water and it's like, well we killed reptilicas,

499
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: and it's while the guy is saying this. It's playing

500
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: like the nightclub music that we heard earlier, like the lounge.

501
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: Song it needs it feel good film.

502
00:27:53,720 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, time just talk about the plot.

503
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into it.

504
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay. So we begin with the glorious AIP logo as

505
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: we pan over a vista of rippling hills dotted with

506
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: green shrubbery, and then we get a voice over. This

507
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: is later going to be revealed to be I'm pretty

508
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: sure it's the Milt, the General, Brigadier General Grayson, but

509
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: we don't know that yet. It's just somebody saying somewhere

510
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: in the forbidding tundra mountains of Lapland, high above the

511
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: Arctic Circle, a group of mining engineers were prospecting for copper.

512
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: But what they unearthed was a story, a story that

513
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: was to terrorize the whole world. I'm already fact check

514
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: they did not. This movie does not have worldwide implications.

515
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: This is more regional conflict.

516
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: Yes, And so what we see, by the way, when

517
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: this is happening, we see some guys in like khaki

518
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: jumpsuits and white helmets working on a bunch of mining

519
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: equipment in the middle of a four forest. What looks

520
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: to me I could be wrong. What looks to me

521
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: like a pretty warm forest wherever this is. I don't

522
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: think this is the tundra, as he says. But then

523
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: he goes on to say, when the events began that

524
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: were to place a burden of decision involving the lives

525
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: of an entire city on my shoulders, I was far away, unsuspecting, unknowing.

526
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: And then we zoom in on one of the miners

527
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: who is busy retracting a drill bit from a borehole

528
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: in the earth, and as the drill comes up out

529
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: of the ground, he feeds it onto a pulley system

530
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: above his head and then notices that the drill is wet,

531
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: not with water or with oil, but with some viscous,

532
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: bright red substance. He says, it's blood, and then we

533
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: zoom on his bloody hands and then get the tidal reptilicus.

534
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a great start. It's shocking.

535
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm in dried, yeah, chiller font reptilicus. It's all dripping everywhere,

536
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: and the orc extra is like stinging again and again.

537
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: But after the title we rejoined the scene where the

538
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: miners are freaking out about the presence of blood on

539
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: their drill. They start digging at the mudcaked threads of

540
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: the drill bit with their hands and then they start

541
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: pulling all of this weird gore off of it, floppy,

542
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: moist red flaps of something, and one of them says,

543
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: it's a piece of skin, like leather.

544
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: This is effectively gross that I was reminded of the

545
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: music video for a sober bitool. They're like scenes of

546
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: like meat moving through a tube at times, and like

547
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: that's similar vibing.

548
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So more gore comes off of the drill,

549
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: and it's like sometimes it's sometimes it's these flaps of stuff.

550
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's something rigid covered in blood. And to the

551
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: rigid stuff, the head miner says, bones, fossil bones. And

552
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: then this other guy says what kind of thing is

553
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: down there? And the head miner says, I don't know,

554
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: but I intend to find out. And he decides they

555
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: have to halt operations until they figure out what's going

556
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: on with the drill. And there's some great dialogue here.

557
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: The main guy who later will learn this guy is

558
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: the character Spin. So Spin says to his friend Henry,

559
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: as an American, you have drilled all over the world,

560
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: What do you make of it? And Henry says, it

561
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: can't be a living thing. Let it be. And so

562
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: spin here is tall, blonde, handsome. He's going to be

563
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: our geo hunk for the film. He's a minor and

564
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: he's just a good looking, strapping lad. He says to

565
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: his friend that he's going to radio someone named Navik

566
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: at the University of Copenhagen. But first they're going to

567
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: take some polaroids of this wheelbarrow full of bloody slop.

568
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: And what they don't see, like they take some pictures

569
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: and then walk away. What they don't see is that

570
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: the gore starts breathing. These little sacks are inflating deflating

571
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: in the gunk. Then the same voiceover from earlier resumes,

572
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: saying within hours two Danish scientists had joined the mining engineers,

573
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: Professor Martin's from Copenhagen's don Mark's Aquarium and his associate,

574
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: doctor Peter Dalby, as well as a third man, Hans Carlson,

575
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: a newspaper reporter. So we see all these guys sitting

576
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: around a campfire wearing hats with ear flaps, and the

577
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: narrator says the two scientists had examined the startling find

578
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: hidden beneath the frozen tundra and brought up by the

579
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: drill bit. They reasoned out the meaning of the gruesome

580
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: puzzle without ever dreaming of its full deadly secret. So

581
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: one of the scientists explains the results of their investigation.

582
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: They're like, these are the bones of a gigantic creature

583
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: which lies fossilized down in the ground below us. And

584
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: then the miner is like, but how do you explain

585
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: the blood? And Professor Martin's then says, there is quote

586
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: a street of icy muck underground. The creature must be

587
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: embedded in it, frozen solid. And then this was great,

588
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: Dalby says, not unusual really, So they say, the drill

589
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: cut through this frozen creature's flesh, the friction of the

590
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: drill thawed the flesh out, and bam, there you get wet,

591
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: wet blood.

592
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: It's pretty I mean, for the time and for the

593
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: relative vibe of the picture, pretty gory. Like it's an

594
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: effective slop in.

595
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: This sure, yeah. So Dalby explains that normally when this happens,

596
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 2: the frozen animal underground is a mammal, like a wooly mammoth.

597
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: In this case, the flesh brought up by the drill

598
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: is instead from a giant reptile, and that is totally unique.

599
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: So the scientists explain that they're going to excavate and

600
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: then ship the remains to the aquarium in Copenhagen. So

601
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: let's go straight straight to Copenhagen now, So we get

602
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: like a Openhagen title in yellow text in this metal

603
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: band font. People are walking around in the streets. We

604
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: see lots of bicycles, motor traffic, old buildings and so forth.

605
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: The music in this part is funny because it's just

606
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: playing this march when what we're seeing is like a

607
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: red convertible pulling up to a building. So the people

608
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: in the car are Professor Martin's who've already met Otto

609
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: Martins is his name, and his adult daughter Lisa, and

610
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: she's dropping him off at the aquarium, and Lisa says,

611
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: don't spend all your time with those old fossils, father,

612
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: you might become one. And then Otto says, with two

613
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: daughters like you and Karen, it's a pleasure to retire

614
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: my old bones. From what I can tell, this was

615
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: written in English and not in Danish, and then like

616
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: losing something in translation, but it feels like something where

617
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: we've lost something in translation.

618
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of lines like this

619
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: in the picture.

620
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: So we follow Professor Martin's as he wandered through the

621
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: don marx Akvarium to his laboratory. He's like passing through

622
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: exhibit tanks full of fish and sea turtles on the way,

623
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: and what I just noticed. They've got these sea turtles

624
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: in a tank that looks quite small, and then the

625
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: professor stops to bang on the glass.

626
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: At them, and everyone knows you're not supposed to do that.

627
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: So they get to the lab and there are various

628
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: technicians at work. Martin's and Dalby discussed the remains they

629
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: unearthed from the mine. Dalby has been trying to reconstruct

630
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: the creature, and so far his attempts have all failed.

631
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: He expresses his puzzlement, saying, I don't know why we

632
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: can't put this thing back together. We've got plenty of bones,

633
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: and Martin's says, too many bones. We aren't even sure

634
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: they belong to the same animal, but Dalby is sure.

635
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: He says it's unlike anything in the fossil record, completely unique.

636
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: So anyway, Otto's other adult daughter, Karen arrives with a

637
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 2: telegram from Spinn, the handsome miner, that apparently he found

638
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: more bones and he's bringing them to the museum and

639
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: he'll be here in an hour. You need somebody to

640
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: pick him up at the airport with the bones. So

641
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Otto sends Karen and his daughter to pick him up

642
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: at the airport, and Karen is portrayed as boy crazy.

643
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: She's like, ooh, is he handsome father? And he tries

644
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: to dissuade her. He says, like, no, he has three

645
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: eyes in a false mustache. Now hurry up. But the

646
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: next scene is that Savin and the bone fragments are

647
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: already here, and this is where we get that great

648
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: delivery where Otto says like, I have never seen bone

649
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: fragments like this before. Well, what's so weird about the bones? Well,

650
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: the professor explains they are resilient but very strong, almost

651
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: like the cartilaginous bones of a shark, That's what he says. Meanwhile,

652
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: they discuss how they have identified the frozen piece they discovered,

653
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: and it is from the creature's tail, and now it's

654
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: being kept under deep freeze conditions beyond this heavy iron

655
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: door in the wall of the laboratory and we get

656
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: to see inside and this actually looks kind of cool.

657
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: They've got it under like blue green lighting, sort of

658
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: frosty and shimmering. I thought it looked like the texture

659
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: of a puppet from The Nightmare before Christmas.

660
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah.

661
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: But then later we see a cross section of it

662
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: and it looks like a beef roast. It's like an oxtail. Anyway,

663
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: they can estimate just from the tail that this creature

664
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: would have been among the biggest reptiles or dinosaurs ever

665
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: to live. They say ninety feet or more. They don't

666
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: specify in what direction, and they say it lived seventy

667
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: to one hundred million years ago. And then also in

668
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: this scene, Karen Martin's daughter is just coming on so

669
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: strong to Spin. She says, like, father, now that you've

670
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: told Spin about frozen matters, can I thaw him a little?

671
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh?

672
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: But then the other professor otto daughter shows up again.

673
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: This is Lisa, And now Lisa brought a guy with

674
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: her as well. But this is Dirt, So I don't

675
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: think they actually meant that like dirtch is her boyfriend,

676
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: but that's almost how it comes off. She like brings

677
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: him up like here he is father.

678
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because again this is Peterson. He appears to

679
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: work here, or at least he is here and is

680
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: ordered around to do things right.

681
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: So he's this strange looking guy in a gray flannel

682
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: shirt and denim overalls. And by the way, in the

683
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: scene like this, the sisters are mocking and sniping at

684
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: each other like they're fighting over the handsome minor, the geohunk,

685
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: literally pulling him in opposite directions, you know, they each

686
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: take one of his arms and they're fighting over him.

687
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: And then these two old scientists Martin's and dalby are

688
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: acting like creeps one of them. Dalby's like, Auto, I

689
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: envy that young man and running off with your daughters,

690
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: and Auto is like, yes, he will be very busy now.

691
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: And this gives way into the dirt passer scene where

692
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: he is explaining that he is there to help them

693
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: keep an eye on things when no one's around. He

694
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: will be there to keep a lookout. So he seems

695
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: to me more security guard than janitor, but it's still

696
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: never very clear. Like basically what he does is he

697
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: just walks around in the hall and gets into gets

698
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 2: into trouble.

699
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets in little mishaps. Yeah.

700
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Now, the scientists stressed to Peterson that the most important

701
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: thing is to always keep this reptilicous tail frozen, never

702
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: let the freezer thaw out. And he's like, okay, got it, boss.

703
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: And so I really had my expectations subverted because as

704
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: soon as I saw this scene, I was like, I

705
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen. Dirt dirt passer is going to

706
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: mess this up. He is going to thaw this tail.

707
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: But it is not Dirt's fault, is it.

708
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: No, No, not at all, which is surprising. Again, like

709
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: generally when someone says, hey, make sure this doesn't happen,

710
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: a thing is going to happen. And if you have

711
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: a comic relief bumbling security guard like who better than

712
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: to accidentally thaw the reptilicus.

713
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: That's right. But so he's not the one who thows it.

714
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: He does get into some other trouble. He is walking

715
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: down a hallway and just in the middle of the

716
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: hallway there is an open tank that has all these

717
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: like electricity warning signs on it. I guess it's got

718
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: electric eels in it, and dirtch is like, I just

719
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: got I gotta stick my hand in the tank.

720
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we build up to right. It's the

721
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: first is it the first scene where he just passes

722
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: by and he's like he says, like, yep, everything around

723
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: here runs on electricity, which is a line I genuinely

724
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: laughed at. I thought, oh, yeah, it's pretty good.

725
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, No, he doesn't stick his hand in

726
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: it yet. That's later, but he he comments on the

727
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: fact that they're electric, just like the lights.

728
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know that hand is going in there.

729
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: You know we're going to come back to that electric eel.

730
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: It's Chekhov's eel. Yeah. So later that night, Delby is

731
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: taking some Reptilicus samples and analyzing them under the microscope,

732
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: but he is overworked and drowsy and soon falls asleep

733
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: at his desk. Meanwhile, outside there's a lightning storm raging,

734
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: and somehow this leads to the freezer door falling open.

735
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: I think that Dalby like didn't shut it right or

736
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: something when he was getting the sample out and the

737
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: freezer begins to thaw.

738
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: That's right, you can't nail Peterson for this. No hand

739
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: in this right, not his fault.

740
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: It was Dalby. And then the next morning, Professor Martin's

741
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: and Lisa. They come into the office and discover the scene.

742
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: Dalby is asleep head on the desk. The freezer's hanging open,

743
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: and the Reptilicus tail is dripping blood on the floor,

744
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: and we see it in its thawed state after it

745
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: has come up to room temperature, and it now looks

746
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: much nastier than before, like it's covered in a red

747
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: brown damp wool. Obviously unhappy to see this that everybody

748
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: rushes in and Auto is like unfrozen. There's some general

749
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: fretting and chewing out of people until they discover something shocking.

750
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: The drill hole in the tail that the handsome miner

751
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: made with his drill bit. It is now healing, and

752
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: the scientists say, you realize what this means. You let

753
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: it thaw and now it is alive. So the next

754
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: scene is Professor Martin's having a meeting in his office

755
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: with somebody we haven't met before. It turns out this

756
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: is a UNESCO official named Connie Miller, and the first

757
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: thing he says to her is some casual sexism. He's like, oh,

758
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: we don't often see women as beautiful as you associated

759
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: with science, and she's like, dude, I am qualified, and

760
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: he's like, ah, yes, I'm sorry, I am old. But

761
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm still unclear on exactly what Miller's job is supposed

762
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: to be here. I take it this is like a

763
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: job interview where they're having this meeting here, but they

764
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: don't explain exactly what she's doing. It's something related to Tilicus.

765
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what this character is supposed

766
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: to be doing. Like I was mainly distracted by, like,

767
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: who's this actor playing this role?

768
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: You know?

769
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: And this is where I came upon the miss Germany factoid. Yeah.

770
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: And then also for some reason, the dude's daughter Lisa

771
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: is just looming over this lady during the interview. Just

772
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: one of many, many examples of throughout the whole film

773
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: why would this character be here? But then suddenly we

774
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: meet another new character, the American brigadier general named Mark Grayson,

775
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: who again this is I think this was the guy

776
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: narrating in voiceover earlier, but we meet him through one

777
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: of those sentence completed from across the room by a

778
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: newly arrived character intros. So I think Martin's is saying,

779
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: we have a general coming in. His name is and

780
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: then he's looking amongst his papers, and then the guy

781
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: you hear another voice and he says Mark Grayson, and

782
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: I have never seen a man introduce him himself in

783
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: a movie with such apparent disgust. He says his own name,

784
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 2: the way that cop talked about hippies and the living

785
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: dead at Manchester More.

786
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird.

787
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: So Grayson wanders over to Professor Martin's. He's scowling, he's

788
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: not happy about whatever's going on. The professor welcomes him,

789
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: and Grayson says, I think the line is I don't

790
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: know why I'm here, Professor, I assume you'll let me know. Classic,

791
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: didn't We just talk about movies with the scene of

792
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 2: the scene convention of like we're all here for a mission,

793
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: but we don't know what it is. Now we're going

794
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: to get the briefing.

795
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. We have kind of like a mini version

796
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: of that here.

797
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, though, I guess we talked about how the most

798
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: believable context is when it's a military things.

799
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it makes sense here.

800
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here all of the characters are introduced to

801
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: each other. He got Miller, Lisa Grayson all saying hello, introducing,

802
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: and it's very stiff all around. Now, the next scene

803
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: is a news conference hosted by Otto Martin's highlights. So

804
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: the press is gathered and he gives sort of a talk,

805
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: and the highlights are, this creature is alive. It is

806
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: quote regenerating, and he explains that by saying a lizard

807
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: can regrow its tail when it's chopped off, a flatworm

808
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: can regrow whole parts of its body, even its brain

809
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: after being cut in half. And that's what's happening right now. Also,

810
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: we learned that the animal is called reptilicus. The name

811
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: is suggested by a journalist and Martins is just like reptilicus.

812
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 4: It is.

813
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: I think the standard, right. It's like the journalist gets

814
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: there first, they get to officially name a new organism. Yeah,

815
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: don't matter what publication they're from.

816
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: What if we name it the Daily Maelosaurus. So all

817
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: the journals come in and flock to look at the tank,

818
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: like they're clamoring up the staircase to look in the

819
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: window inside, and they're murmuring. And then we see newspaper

820
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: headlines spinning at the screen. We see prehistoric monster growing

821
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: in huge tank. And I really like that one because

822
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: it's got the word huge in it, but it refers

823
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: to the tank. And then another headline prominently featuring the

824
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: concept of tank, it is incubator tank feeds monster from pass.

825
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: So after this there's a scene of Brigadier General Mark

826
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: Grayson sulking because he is being relegated to the command

827
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: of in his words, two captains, three office boys, and

828
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: a damn lizard. And he's like, I'm a war hero,

829
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm worthy of prestige. How dare they put me on

830
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: Reptilicus detail. Now, the next scene we get is a

831
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: good old dirt scene. Here we're not at the eel

832
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: part yet. Instead, here he's eating a sandwich and painting

833
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: something on a microscope slide and then looking through the microscope,

834
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: then putting his sandwich under the microscope and seeing lots

835
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: of bacteria, and then he burps, and then we get

836
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: like harp music playing and we cut to black.

837
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea. This is a scene where I

838
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: really was trying to figure out what Peterson's role here is,

839
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: Like he did not before the scene. He did not

840
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: seem like a character who had microscope access.

841
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: You know, It's like he's just now discovering that there

842
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: are microbes on his food.

843
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess maybe I would not be surprised

844
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: if they this was not a scene where they were like, hey,

845
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: let's just improve some stuff. Let's just get the camera

846
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: on this guy and just see what he's got.

847
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: Turn dirt loose in the lab. See. Yeah, he's like

848
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: Billy Crystal and h oh. Also, this right after this,

849
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: I think is when he actually does cram his hand

850
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: in the electric Guell tank. Yes, so he's like going

851
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: down the hall and just wants to get a little

852
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: taste a free sample of electric geel, and I don't know,

853
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: I guess it shocks him. I assume we were to

854
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: take it as him really being electrified, not him pretending

855
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: to be.

856
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it was supposed to be real electrocution,

857
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: because we get, we get as we're hoping, like full

858
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: like a full array of facial emotions. Here he goes

859
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: to the seven stages of being shocked by an eel

860
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: and it's pretty great.

861
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: But while this is happening, there is distraction because he

862
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: hears a rumbling in the Reptilicus tank and he gets

863
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: very alarmed, in fact, so alarmed that he pulls an alarm.

864
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: He pulls the fire alarm. Everybody comes running. They're like,

865
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: what's happening. What's wrong Peterson? And he explains, but then

866
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: Martin's says to him, don't worry Peterson. Here's the quote.

867
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: He says, reptilicus has no conscious life. Yet what you

868
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: heard was merely involuntary embryonic movement.

869
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: So you know.

870
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: In the meantime, we learn more about reptilicus. The scientists

871
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: are constantly studying it as it grows. Martin's is like, yes,

872
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: grow more reptilicus, and they learn he has big, strong

873
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: scales on his back, slimy secretion from his mouth which

874
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: has a corrosive effect, like highly concentrated acid, and so

875
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: they're like, yes, keep keep growing it. Oh, and this

876
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: is the part where we get to the Copenhagen tourism reel.

877
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh.

878
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: Yes, like there's this I think I don't know. German general.

879
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: There's a general from somewhere named Brandt who is working

880
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 2: with Grayson, and he comes into his office and he says,

881
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: is there is there anything I can do for you?

882
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: And Grayson says, yeah, get me transferred out of this

883
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: damn place. So he's being grumpy as usual, but then

884
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: Brandt suggests to him, why not go out for a

885
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: night on the town and see all the sights in

886
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: this beautiful locale, and Grayson is like splendid idea actually,

887
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: So they go out together and we see all of

888
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: the fountains and the bridges and the trams and the

889
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: bicycles and the the palace, and then we end up. Oh,

890
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: they go over the longebro Bridge, which is an important

891
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: landmark in the movie that will happen we will encounter

892
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: again later when Reptilicus is rampaging. But this is the

893
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: part where Brant and Grayson both take Connie Connie Miller

894
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 2: from Unesco on a date to dinner, and she's walking

895
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: around holding both of their arms, and it's playing what

896
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: the subtitles referred to as soft sultry music, and this

897
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: like nightclub singer is singing a song called Tivoli Nights,

898
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: Tivoli Knights. So what a sight. This might be a

899
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: standard I wasn't familiar with it though, but it does

900
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: include also some pretty good Danish scat singing.

901
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love this whole sequence here again,

902
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: it just it's so overt, you know, it is like

903
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: a travel brochure. But at the same time. This is

904
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: probably a sequence where some viewers are saying, Hey, didn't

905
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I pop in a monster movie? Isn't there supposed to

906
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: be a monster rampage at some point?

907
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: Well, if that's what you're thinking, you're in luck, because

908
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: it is finally time for Reptilicus to break loose. So

909
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: one night, I don't know if it's supposed to be

910
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 2: the same night, but it's continuous with what we just saw.

911
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: There's another frightening thunderstorm. Only Dalby and Peterson are working

912
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: late in the office as usual, and they hear what

913
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: sounds like a crash, and they go out in the

914
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: hallway looking toward the Reptilicus tank and they see something

915
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: with horror in their eyes. Dalby sends Peterson off to

916
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: the police, and then there there's like a weird exchange

917
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: here where I thought it was building up to some

918
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: big comedic payoff, and then it doesn't. It's just Peterson

919
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: and this cop playing chess with himself, going back and

920
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: forth over and over trying to figure out what they're

921
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: talking about about the monster being loose.

922
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: There's some fun lines, there's there are more electric eel jokes.

923
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's right. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you're right,

924
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: because what do they say is like the electricity went out,

925
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 2: and the cops like really, and then Peterson, yeah, even

926
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: the electric eel went out?

927
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: Wonk, wonk.

928
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: It's great.

929
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: I like it.

930
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: So next thing that all the other characters arrive at

931
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 2: the lab and Reptilicus is gone and so is Delby.

932
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: Only his glasses remain. And then meanwhile, some military guys

933
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: find Reptilicus's tracks leading down into the water where they vanish,

934
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: And here the movie shifts into rampage and response mode.

935
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: So there's going to be a lot less fewer dialogue

936
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: scenes from now on, and more of people running around

937
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: trying to set up artillery and soldiers and jeeps and

938
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 2: tanks and everything to face off against Reptilicus. And Reptilicus,

939
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 2: is he going to be put down by the artillery?

940
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: Of course not. We're going to have to have some

941
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: kind of secret weapon in the end, but we're not

942
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: there yet.

943
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: Pretty standard stuff. So when she reached this stage of

944
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: a Kaichu film, you know, the stock footage is coming out.

945
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, they're going to be a few different plans

946
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: to kill or capture the beasts. One or two are

947
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: not going to work, and that third one is going

948
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: to be what really is effective?

949
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: That's right. So one thing that's different at this point

950
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: in the movie is that General Grayson is in charge now,

951
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: so what he always wanted. He's very excited, so he's

952
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: he's like chasing around after the monster. The first attack

953
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: is at what they call a small farm on the coast,

954
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: So we see a lot of footage of people, you know, soldiers,

955
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: loading up into transport vehicles and heading down the road,

956
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: and we get to the farm and the farmer there

957
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, he killed fourteen of my best cows.

958
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: And we see a bloody skinned cow head on the ground.

959
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: And then it's a bunch of military dudes driving around

960
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: and barking things back and forth on radios, trying to

961
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: find the monster until finally they do. And I like

962
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: this line delivery because it has kind of unintended implications.

963
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 2: This soldier like he looks up when he finally sees

964
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: Reptilicus and he says, it's my god. It is your god.

965
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean really it could be.

966
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 2: You know, you were created serve it as a character.

967
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Reptilicus is pretty it's pretty cool looking, you know,

968
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: though the effects, like we say, are rough around the edges,

969
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: hard not to love, but also difficult to believe. At times,

970
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: he seems to he has like little stationary jazz hands,

971
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, when he's writhing about. But I like him.

972
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a memorable kaiju.

973
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: Reptilicus is kind of like a snake. Like he has

974
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: a long, thin neck, but it's covered in very raised,

975
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: layered scales. He has fangs like a snake and a

976
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: head like a snake, and then he has big spiny wings.

977
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe these wings are We never

978
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: see Reptilicus fly from what I recall, so the wings

979
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: might be more like, you know, neural spines. It might

980
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: be more for cooling purposes. To go back to a

981
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: core episode we just talked about.

982
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: Would you say that Reptilicus is a cross between a

983
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: sorrow pod and an aquatic lizard that is striving to

984
00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: become a mammal?

985
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, wow, the perfect yes, because.

986
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: That's how it presented a couple of times in the film.

987
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: Aren't we all striving to become a mammal?

988
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean every day it's it's you know,

989
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: it's you get up every morning, and you strive to

990
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: become a mammal, stay a mammal, be a mammal, and

991
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: so forth.

992
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: I just want to live up to my destiny. So yeah,

993
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 2: the military guys unleash artillery and machine gun fire at Reptilicus.

994
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: They and then they even so that doesn't work at first,

995
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: but then they try a giant flamethrower, and Reptilicus really

996
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: does not like the flamethrower. Reptilicus squeals quite repetitively. The

997
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: same sound effect is used over and over.

998
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrifying stock footage of a military flamethrower, Like

999
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: not one of these like novelty. You know, I'm still

1000
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: dangerous things you see like it, you know, burns and whatnot,

1001
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: but like the real jelly gasoline horror show. So I

1002
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: understand Reptilicus's response here.

1003
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not mega weapon. It's like, actually you're seeing

1004
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: the jet come out. It's scary as hell. Yeah, but Reptilicus,

1005
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: after being hit with the flamethrower, gets really upset and

1006
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: then slithers off into the sea. So all of the

1007
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: characters are standing here on the beach. Why are they

1008
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: all here? I don't know, But they're like spins here.

1009
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: The daughters are here, they're all here on the beach.

1010
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: They're watching what's going on. Grayson is like, maybe he'll die,

1011
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: and then Connie, for some reason says, not a chance.

1012
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: He's just taking time to let his wounds heal. And

1013
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: then Grayson says, regeneration.

1014
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, I just dawned on me. The thing that's

1015
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: missing that I guess Connie's kind of filling in for

1016
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: here is we need a child. We need a child

1017
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: that is having revelations about the kaiju. Like that's what's

1018
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: missing here, Timmy, if you will.

1019
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: Yes, we do need that, yeah, to like sort of

1020
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: intuit the intentions and spirit and meaning of the monster. Yeah,

1021
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: but in lieu of child, Connie, we don't even know

1022
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: if Reptilicus is a friend to all children. It's possible

1023
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: he is, and nobody and just nobody ever gets to

1024
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: say so. So it's like not even considered, nobody thought

1025
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: to try. So. After all this, the military and scientists

1026
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: regroup and they launch a naval search operation to find Reptilicus.

1027
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: So we're out on the water and we see all

1028
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: these you know, battleships and destroyers going around and again

1029
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: Why is Spinn the miner on one of these battleships. Yeah, yeah,

1030
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 2: So they find Reptilicus with sonar and then they launch

1031
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: a depth depth charges as he is slumbering on the

1032
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: ocean floor. Connie tries to get them to stop. She's like,

1033
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: don't you realize what you're doing. If Reptilicus is hit,

1034
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: you'll never find all the pieces underwater. He'll regenerate Mark.

1035
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: But it's too late. We see some bloody Reptilicus chunks

1036
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: floating around in the water column, so it's too late.

1037
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: And then there's fallout from this. Martin's, who was also

1038
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: on one of the boats, has a medical event and

1039
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: is taken to the hospital. Later we learned that Reptilicus

1040
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: has been attacking ships in ports throughout the Baltic Sea

1041
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: and retaliation, so it's very oh the humanity. And then

1042
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: we get a scene of Spin, the handsome minor, being

1043
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: consoled by Karen the I think by Karen, the daughter

1044
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: of Martin's, and Spinn says Harbor's freighters, I had the

1045
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: blood of Reptilicus on my hands. Sometimes I feel that

1046
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: it's perhaps also the blood of all those people, Yes,

1047
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: of all the ridiculous dark Knight of the Soul.

1048
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: Scenes in movies.

1049
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: This is one of the best.

1050
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: Yes.

1051
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: Oh, anyway, next, this movie has been very short on

1052
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: like bikinis up to this point, so they just bring you, like,

1053
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: what if we did a Jaws style beach scene, beach

1054
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: attack scene, So that's what's next. We just go to

1055
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: the beach, a bunch of young hip people hanging out

1056
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: in bathing suits, lounging in the sand, and then here's Reptilicus.

1057
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: Yep, shooting green slime out of his mouth. That everyone

1058
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: the effect here is marvelous, not believable at all, but

1059
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: but charming.

1060
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: Agreed. So when Reptilicus rears up out of the water,

1061
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: everybody panics and runs away. And then we see more

1062
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: military personnel and vehicles getting into position to face the

1063
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: Reptilicus menace. And we just know now is the time

1064
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: for Reptilicus to attack all of those beautiful tourist friendly

1065
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: landmarks and affordable locations in Copenhagen, not the Little Mermaid.

1066
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: So we see like the you know, the military, they're

1067
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: just shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting. They unload

1068
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: zillion bullets into Reptilicus but it's just making him matter.

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00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: Reptilicus rides around, he slams his head into little models

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Speaker 2: of buildings. They say, we can't use our flame throwers,

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Speaker 2: which he didn't like last time, because we can't get

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00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: close to the acid slime. Now Reptilicus is like spitting

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: green goo at people so they can't get too close.

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Speaker 2: And next we see Reptilicus attack the lungebro Bridge where

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Speaker 2: s Vin the miner I think to have a heroic

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01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: moment because like somebody has to operate the controls of

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Speaker 2: the bridge to lower the drawbridge so that the panicking

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01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: civilians can run away, but the guy who's supposed to

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01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: lower it is paralyzed by fear, so Spinn has to

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: do it. I think that's what happened. Yeah, so the

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: military tries more plans. They're going to try to like

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: steer Reptilicus in one place or another to so they

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01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: can use certain weapons. Reptilicus attacks the stock exchange. Oh no,

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01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: not the stock exchange. More rampaging and shooting, all heading

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Speaker 2: toward a final confrontation. So we get the lead up

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: to that final showdown where there's another plotting scene where

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01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: they're all like standing around in a room over a map,

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01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: and Grayson says he wants to use bombs, but Martin appears,

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Speaker 2: now recovered from his medical event, to argue. He says

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Speaker 2: Reptilicus cannot be blown to bits because the pieces of

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Speaker 2: him will regenerate, and Grayson says, I'm a soldier, not

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Speaker 2: a science That's the way I know how to kill,

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01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: and then Martin says, then you will have to learn

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Speaker 2: another way. So what's it going to be? We have

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Speaker 2: a showdown here between these worldviews, is like science versus militarism,

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: and who's which one is going to triumph over Reptilicus.

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Speaker 2: It seems like they go for a synthesis of the

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Speaker 2: two because ladies and gentlemen, the solution to all of

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01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: the Reptilicus problems in this movie is a drug Bazuka.

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: Yes, the drug Bozuka another one of my favorite aspects

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: of this picture.

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Speaker 2: So they get the idea from like they're just having

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: a conversation. I think it's Vin and Lisa are talk

1104
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: Svin and Karen are talking and he's like, how's your

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01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: father and she says sedated? They gave him a hypo

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: And then somebody says, what about reptilicus, and somebody says,

1107
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: if only we could give him a hypo, and then

1108
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: you can see it dawn on them and they're like, bye, George,

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 1: There's some great lines here, like they're they're like, well,

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: is there some sort of we could give him? And

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: they're like, could we get enough of that drug? And

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: somebody in the midst of this I don't remember who's

1114
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: like drug, Like they'd never heard the word before.

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: One of them says, by my calculations, we'll need a

1116
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: gallon of it for reptilicus. So yeah, they well, they

1117
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: kind of split up into different teams, like the young

1118
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: attractive people all go to get a gallon of reptilicus drugs,

1119
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: and Grayson is like rigging up some way to deliver it,

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Speaker 2: and I love that. After this spart there are repeated

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: scenes of people explaining the drug bazuka concept to each

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01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: other in detail, as Reptilicus is raging in the background,

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01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: and they keep saying things like I'm going to take

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01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: a crack at reptilicus. So eventually they load up the

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01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: drug bazuoka and shoot, Grayson does it. Of course, you know,

1126
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: he's the he's the real hero. In the end, he

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01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: shoots and it's a hit. It hits Reptilicus right in

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01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: the mouth, which was the only place they could get him,

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: but it works, and then Reptilicus thrashes around a little

1130
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: bit and then falls asleep. So afterwards we surveyed the destruction,

1131
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, the burned and crushed buildings, and everybody wandering

1132
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: around looking like what happened? What has Reptilicus wrought? But

1133
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: then the weirdest thing I mentioned this earlier, the what

1134
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: the subtitles describe as soft, sultry nightclub music starts playing

1135
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: and Grayson is standing there with Connie and he says,

1136
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: it's a good thing that there's no more like him.

1137
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 2: And then we cut to the bottom of the ocean

1138
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: where one of Reptilicus's legs, severed legs, is walking around

1139
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: by itself.

1140
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: And then the end, you know what that means. It's

1141
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: going to regenerate into a full Reptilicus, And then the

1142
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: whole problem emerges again.

1143
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: That's right, Reptilicus can never be defeated unless they launch

1144
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: him into space.

1145
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, I guess that's where we're going

1146
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: in the sequel, Like maybe sedated reptilicus versus new regenerated reptilicus,

1147
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 1: and then we have to just yeah, we to launch

1148
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: both of them into space today.

1149
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: How long does the drug sedate reptilicus for?

1150
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: Though, I don't know. They don't really get into that, Like,

1151
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: what's the plan next? Yeah, launch him into space, freeze him.

1152
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: We don't know. It just we have to trust that

1153
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: the scientific world will take care of it this time,

1154
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: even though they're the ones that accidentally thawed the foot

1155
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: to begin with and did the mad science that got

1156
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: us to this predicament in the first place.

1157
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: They had to do that with one of the villains

1158
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: on the Boys, right.

1159
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: That's right, they did, like I forget his name, but

1160
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: like the evil take on Captain America.

1161
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like couldn't be destroyed. They had to just keep

1162
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: him permanently sedated.

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes that's the way it is

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Speaker 1: with your area. As we've discussed on weirdhow some of

1165
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: your various takes on vampires and werewolves, Like, is the

1166
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: what does the stake do to the unholy creature? Does

1167
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: it murder them or does it just hold them in place?

1168
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: A steak that may one day be removed And free them.

1169
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: It's like a lock, yeah, which you know, it's an it.

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: I feel like if Reptilicus does have any kind of

1171
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: like deeper meaning, it is getting at the idea that, Yeah,

1172
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: solutions to problems are not permanent solutions. They are They

1173
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: are all inherently temporary, you know, and you have to

1174
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: you have to keep at it and or keep solving

1175
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: the same problems over and over again. In this case,

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: giant lizards that regenerate.

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess Reptilicus is an update on the

1178
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: tail of the hydra, right.

1179
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the hydra is very much like the classic

1180
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: telling of that story.

1181
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 4: Right.

1182
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: The problem not only a problem that keeps springing back up,

1183
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: but springs up, you know, with additional problems. Every time

1184
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: you cut away the head, you get more heads, and indeed,

1185
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: every time you defeat one reptilicus, you potentially get more.

1186
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 2: So you got to think outside the box. For Hercules,

1187
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: it was what it was like cauterizing the stumps with fire.

1188
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and help from your cousin, right, but his cousin

1189
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: helping them. Yeah.

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01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: In this case, it's it's a drug bazuoka.

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01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: All right, well, and that we're going to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and close it out here. We hope everyone has a

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01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: good Turkey Day if you celebrate Turkey Day. In the past,

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01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: we've kind of made it an official thing to do,

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Speaker 1: or an unofficial thing even to sort of to do

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Speaker 1: a film that has been covered on Mystery Science Theater

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Speaker 1: three thousand, you know, thinking back to those Turkey Day

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Speaker 1: marathons of old and they still put it on, So

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Speaker 1: look for that if you're into it. But this movie

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Speaker 1: of Mystery Science Theater three thousand, so just a reminder that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to seek out the original version,

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Speaker 1: I think you can still find the MST three K

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Speaker 1: version on Netflix, so you know, go watch it there.

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Speaker 1: This is a fun movie. This is a good one

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Speaker 2: I think it was the first episode of the reboot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a Jonah episode. I think it

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Speaker 1: had a fun song in there about how every country,

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01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: every culture has its monster. So oh yeah, all right,

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