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I think I'm planning on going to 25 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the range sometime later this week, but we push back 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Go Low because of the owner's meetings and some of 27 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: the stories flying out of there about Christmas games and 28 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: changing the kickoff rule that I will't able to do 29 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: it till today, but I'm glad I did because Dylan Dascher, 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: who covers golf I think for golf dot com, tweeted 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: out something today of Peter Malnatty, who just won last 32 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: week and who's on the player's board with Tiger and 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: can't lay and all those guys, and I thought he 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: gave the best answer I've heard for anyone discussing the 35 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: current state of golf with live and the contracts and 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: everything that's going on. So I'll play that and we'll 37 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: react to that. And then just I watched Full Swing. 38 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: A couple thoughts when it comes to full swing that 39 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: jumped out to me, where have all the American star 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: power gone? Leaving Scottie Scheffler on an island and then 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: a couple just quick Masters plays. In terms of the 42 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: favorites and guys, I like a couple of weeks out 43 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: because if you're listening to this on Thursday, we're two 44 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: weeks away from round one at Augusta National, so it's 45 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: hard to beat that. And I love I love the Masters, 46 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: so I wanted to I wanted to dive into some 47 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: things that I've been stirring on in my little little 48 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: brain about golf. If you like this, subscribe to the podcast. 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: If you listen on Collins Feed. The three and Out 50 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Go Low is all on one feed Spotify as well 51 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Apple Spotify. All this is on YouTube also, so if 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: you just type in my name or go Low or 53 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: three and Out, we have a YouTube page. All of 54 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: our content goes up there. But I got to tell 55 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: you about my friends at game time. 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Do I trust Keith Mitchell 82 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: or Malnotty or some of these other guys that were 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: right up at Brendan Todd. I was like, this is 84 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: Cameron Young's time. I didn't pull the trigger, But sometime 85 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: when you don't make a bet, then you watch it 86 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: even closer when the event's going on. It's god, I 87 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: wish I would have, and I thought Cam Young was 88 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: gonna win, and then Peter Malnatty, who I'd be honest, 89 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able, and I would say I'm a 90 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: pretty high end golf consumer. I couldn't have picked out 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: of a lineup before two months ago. And the only 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: reason it started two months ago. He's on the Player 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Advisory Board. So I've seen him give some talks and 94 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: interviewed over the last several months about all this merger talk. 95 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: But he won, and he won for the first time 96 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: in nine years. In any time you kind of get 97 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: a random guy win, especially when I mean he wasn't 98 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: in the same group, but going head to head with 99 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: Cam Young, who's viewed as easily one of the better 100 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: more talented younger American players. It was a really big 101 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: deal for him. The valspar clearly a pretty tough course. 102 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you watched any of 103 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: that last weekend viewership says not many people did. But 104 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: it's fucking tight. You can't spread it all over. It's 105 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: a high level golf tournament. I mean, twelve underwon it. 106 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: There were only one other guy at double digit under, 107 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: so a lot of single digits, which is very rare 108 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: now on the PGA Tour. But he became very, very emotional. 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: He just started crying. He had his kids and his 110 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: wife was standing the right there. It was powerful. I mean, 111 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: if you're a human, it was hard not to get 112 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: choked up. If you watched it live or even if 113 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: you saw the replay. The PJ Tour and everything tweeted 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: it out, it was It's a cool moment. It's what 115 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour has still that live just cannot provide. 116 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: You just would never get that, it's not even possible. 117 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: And he gave some comments because he's playing this week 118 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: about the current state, and I thought it really resonated 119 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: with me and I wanted to play that before I 120 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: give some thoughts on what he said. 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, do you 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: remember we can all probably remember when we were kids, 123 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: and we were all kids at different times, but the 124 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: things that moved us that we that we watched that Like, 125 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: I remember watching Jordan in the ninety seven Balls, I 126 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: remember watching Tiger in the two thousand Masters. I didn't 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: care one iota what Jordan's contract was. I didn't care 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: one iota what the winner's check at that US Open was. 129 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: And I think people are sick of that, you know, 130 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: I think I think people are just sick of the 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: narrative and golf being about you know, contracts on live 132 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: purses on the tour, guaranteed comp on the tour, what 133 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: would like. I think people are so sick of that. 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: They want to see sport. They want to see they 135 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: want to see people who are the best in the 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: world at what they do, do it at a high 137 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: level and celebrate that, celebrate the athleticism, celebrate the achievement. 138 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: And and you know, obviously this is a business, and 139 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 3: you know, to the to the top players who drive 140 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: a lot of the value in this business, we've got 141 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: to we've got to compensate them fairly. We've got to 142 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: make that happen. But I think we're doing that and 143 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: above and beyond and the narrative, the storylines, the conversation 144 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: needs to come back to the product on the course 145 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: and what we do. And I think, you know, for me, 146 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: that was like I I just I just feel like 147 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: no kid dreamed when they're watching Jordan dreamed of having 148 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: his salary. They didn't care about that. They dreamed of 149 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: being in that moment, hitting that shot. And I think 150 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: that's what our fans care about too, and that's what 151 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: they want to see. So I hope, you know, those 152 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: those tears that I was crying on on that eighteenth 153 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: Green had nothing to do with you know, the my 154 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: share that what wasn't an eight point four million dollars 155 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: person last week. My tears had nothing to do with 156 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: my share that I'm gonna enjoy it, We're gonna use 157 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: it to a lot of good in this world. But 158 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: that had nothing to do with that. And I don't 159 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: think our fans care about that either. So I hope 160 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: that connected with some people, and you know, I hope 161 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: that that can be. I do think everyone out here 162 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: who plays and competes would agree with me on that. 163 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: I just hope that can be. You know, the story 164 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: that we tell can come back to the best athletes 165 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: in the world competing on the biggest stage in the 166 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: world and doing it, you know, to show off this 167 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: amazing skill that we have that can be so entertaining 168 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: for people. I want that to be our story. 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: I think one thing he hit on that is works. 170 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: Let's use football as an example. Every young guy right now, 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: who is you know? They say at about eight years 172 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: old you become That's when your sports fandom is kind 173 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: of crystallized. And the teams that you like around eight 174 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: nine years old are usually the teams you like the 175 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: rest of your life. And when I was a kid 176 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: right in the mid nineties in elementary school, you'd go 177 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: to recess and you would play either you know, whiffle 178 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: ball or flag football. Everyone was emulating Ken Griffy junior 179 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, trying to be Jerry Rice or Brett Farv 180 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: And you never discussed, like, you know, Brett Farve is 181 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: making five ten million dollars a year, where Barry Bond 182 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: signed a seven year, fifty million dollar contract. You knew 183 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: professional athletes to make a lot of money, but you 184 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be cool like them as a player, Like 185 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: in Little League, I tried to bat like Jay Buhner. Right, 186 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: every kid growing up in the peak of his powers 187 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: tried to be like Brett Farvv why he was cool. 188 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Anyone who started playing golf at a younger age went 189 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: to the putting green and said, whether it was a 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: putting contest with your buddy, with your dad, or by yourself, 191 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: this is to win the Masters, this is to win 192 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: the US Open. And when you're saying that as a kid, 193 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: it's never about this is to win four million dollars. Right, 194 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: if I make the NFL, I'm going to become a millionaire. 195 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't process in your brain like that. Now, as 196 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: you get older, you start thinking about those elements. But 197 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: the reason you fall in love with sports. Every kid 198 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: over the last decade who has shot long three pointers 199 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: because of Steph Curry in the gym, in fifth grade basketball, 200 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: in eighth grade basketball, hell, in high school basketball, is 201 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: not talking about hitting that three and then going I 202 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: want to be worth four hundred million dollars like Steph Curry. 203 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: You just want to hit the three like him and 204 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: emulate it because it's incredible, it's awesome. It's what It's like, 205 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: it's really cool. And I think the one thing with football, 206 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: even when you watch Patrick Mahomes and I'm thirty nine, 207 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm a businessman. I talk about money all the time. 208 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: You never think when you're watching Patrick Mahomes, go God, 209 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: he's making four hundred and fifty million dollars. That was 210 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: the contract he signed. Hell, I've seen Patrick talk numerous times, 211 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: and I think he's actually one of the best. I've 212 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: never really seen him. I've seen him talk about the 213 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: contract one time, and it wasn't uncomfortable at all. He's 214 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: actually very natural at being relatable about talking about something 215 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: that ninety nine point nine nine percent of people can 216 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: never relate to. He's making on and off the field, 217 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: probably seventy five to one hundred million dollars. I mean 218 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: you're talking like Apple CEO money. I mean people that 219 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: don't own a business that make that level money. It's 220 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: a very very small percentage of rich people on an 221 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: annual basis W twos and ten ninety nine. I mean, 222 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: that's just that's a fact, and I think that really 223 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: resonates with people. Even as NFL free agency just happened. 224 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Once we get to fall in the games, it's more 225 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: like this guy's good enough for this guy's not good enough. 226 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: Now we integrate like, oh, this contract was a little much. 227 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: But like when you're playing well, no one talks about 228 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: the money. And golf's unique, right, one thing that really 229 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: separates just it's a niche sport. I guess I was 230 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: saying niche before, and people like it's niche. It's niche, 231 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: niche sport. But like unlike football, which is in its 232 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: own stratosphere, but even compared to baseball and basketball, more 233 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: people watch those sports, even though obviously the other television 234 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: ratings are way down from what they once were, but 235 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: their fan base is bigger, right, because more people are 236 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: just gonna play baseball or basketball growing up than golf. 237 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: Though over the last four or five years, more people 238 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: are actually playing golf than ever. And unlike any of 239 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: these other sports, I can't play and I never will 240 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: be able to play, and neither will you. Flag football 241 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: at Lambeau Field, you will never be able to play 242 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: Beer League, softball at Wrigley Field. You're never playing a 243 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: pickup basketball game at Madison Square Garden. It's not happening yet. 244 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: In golf, I can go play at Tory Pines next 245 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: week if I won Hell I joined, and I've played 246 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: here for the last two years at TPC Scottsdale. Play 247 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: there as the sun comes out two or three times 248 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: a week. Go out there and practice. I mean you 249 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: could do that too. You can go out there and 250 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: play next week if you want. Now it's expensive, same 251 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: with Sawgrass, but Toy's not that expensive and they play 252 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: Obviously they do play country clubs. But think about the 253 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: US Open. Anyone can go play Pinehurs throughout the year. 254 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Anyone can go play Whistling Straits. Again, I'm not saying 255 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: that everyone has the means to do that, but it 256 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: is possible. You can shoot one hundred and ninety on 257 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: the same course that. This is where Tiger Woods won 258 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: the US Open. This is where Payne Stewart had his 259 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: famous moment. I played TVC all the time. I think, 260 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: like god, this is in stories whenever I play, like 261 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: you know this is Hadeki goes driver nine iron here 262 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going driver five iron. And that's something that 263 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: the other sports do not have. The other thing golf 264 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: has is by far, it's not even close, is their 265 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: audience has the highest household income. It's why that they 266 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: can sell to a smaller audience at higher price points. 267 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: Why the people watching have more money. If the NFL, 268 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: their fan base, had this, now it's impossible because they 269 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: have so many people that it's such a diverse group, 270 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: but had thirty percent higher of a household income, the 271 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: NFL would be even dramatically richer. The problem is with 272 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: golf the conversation, and part of this is the business 273 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: was fucked up. The model was not working, and Live 274 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: came in was it's all become about the money and 275 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: anyone that's turned on full swing the last two years, 276 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: but specifically this year, you saw a DJ who has 277 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: awesome house, and you saw Ricky and JT who didn't 278 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: go to Live and didn't get one hundred and fifty 279 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: million dollars like PJ. All their houses kind of look 280 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: the same. They're fucking badass. All of their homes are 281 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: eight figure homes, between ten and fifteen million dollars on 282 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: the water in Jupiter. All these guys are rich. So 283 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: we're just talking about rich guys getting richer, and I 284 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: really think the turnoff of clearly on the most basic level, 285 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: the competition is not the same. You cannot take five 286 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: to ten guys who are elite players and some of 287 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: them are villains and remove them and have the same 288 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: level of competition. That's impossible. But I do think the 289 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: rhetoric around everything that's going on is just kind of exhausting. 290 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Tiger played golf with Yasser, Okay, cool? 291 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: Like did deal get done? Like anything happening? I know 292 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: when the NFL owners go to the NFL Owners Meeting, 293 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. Every single year. It does, sometimes more 294 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: dramatic than others, but things get done fast. Now, granted 295 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: everyone's on the same page. Here's the problem. Nobody's on 296 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: the same page nobody, and I think that is clearly 297 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: hurting just the overall product. Nobody watches live and the 298 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: ratings for the PGA Tour are dramatically down, and I 299 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: think there's just a fatigue. They're never gonna get ten 300 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: million people to watch non AUGUSTA. That's not gonna happen. 301 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: But when you see an audience of three and a 302 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: half million go to two and a half million, some 303 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: of these people are like, I don't even give a shit. 304 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: That did not think that a couple of years ago. 305 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's easy to go, Yeah, I don't 306 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: really give a shit because it's exhausting, it really is. 307 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Can we just figure it out? And the people that 308 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: are making these decisions, from Tiger to all the elite guys, 309 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: because ultimately they're gonna give the thumbs up or the 310 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: thumbs down, how can they relate to us the consumer? 311 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: All I want to watch, all I care about is 312 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: watching the best guys t off together. Right, that's a 313 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: cool part about Full Swing. It kind of rehashes the majors. 314 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, this is sweet. But that's four weeks 315 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: a year. The majority of the year is the Vals 316 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Bar and Live Hong Kong and Live Saudi Arabia and 317 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, the John Deere and Myrtle Beach. It's just 318 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: random tournaments. And I think that golf, I don't want 319 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: to say lost its way, but all these factors in 320 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: have really turned a lot of people off, and anytime 321 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: you turn a lot of people off, it's hard to 322 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: get them to come back. The NBA is dealing with 323 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: this right now. They had a perception that was reality. 324 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Guys didn't play. It's sports. People get hurt, totally understand right, 325 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: If you roll an ankle and you're injured, can't play 326 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: even if I buy a ticket. I get it, But 327 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: I can't show up to a game and just be like, oh, yeah, 328 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: he needs some rest. I mean, this is the product, 329 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: this is the business. I turned on the Lakers last night, 330 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: like is Lebron hurt or is he just? And I 331 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: get he's old. I get he's played two decades, but 332 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: like Primetime TNT him it versus the Bucks and there 333 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: he is in a sweatshirt, Like it's not good business. 334 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: It's just not And the business model is based on 335 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: these games. So like in football, I know when I 336 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: turn on week one week, ten week, if a guy 337 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: can play, he's playing. And that's another thing with golf. 338 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: Forever they dealt with like he didn't know who was 339 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna play when, and beside the majors, some tournaments were 340 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: better than others. And I get it, it's a it's 341 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: a whole problem. But right now they are in the 342 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: process of fixing the problem, and the people fixing the 343 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: problem don't know how we think, how could they? I 344 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: love Tiger Woods. I mean it's one of my favorite 345 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: athletes of all time, watching him in his prime. I 346 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: still randomly when I'm bored will type in YouTube Tiger Woods. 347 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: But to think that he he knows what us on 348 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: the couch want beside watching him in his prime, how 349 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: could he? He can't. But then you watch some of 350 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: these other guy talk they can't either, like that there's 351 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: a you know in fairness, like they're two into the weeds, 352 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: Justin Thomas and Jordan Speat, these guys talking about it. 353 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: We don't want these guys. They need to jump through 354 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: hoops to come back. We don't care about any of that. Man, 355 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: that that's your fucking problem if you want to keep 356 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: this gravy train rolling, because it is not adding up. 357 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: As your viewership goes down and your purses go up, 358 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: something's gonna blow up. And now you get Arthur blank In. 359 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: These NFL and NBA owners involved, like they're very it's 360 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: very binary with them. It's like a you're making money 361 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: or you're not. Are you growing or you're dying. And 362 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: right now the PG tour over the last twelve months 363 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: feels like it's dying literally because guys are defecting to 364 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: a league that you couldn't pay me to watch. Now, 365 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: I follow live a little bit, like I'll type it 366 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: into the leaderboard, but I I've watched under nine holes 367 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: total in like two years, and I'm a diehard golf guy, 368 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: So I just think that the PGA Tour is is 369 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: really headed down a slippery slope right now, and I 370 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: don't know how it gets fixed. I'm not that bullsh 371 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: Majors are badass, cannot wait, doesn't get any better, but 372 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: they've always been sweet, They've always been the highest rated. 373 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: The problem for this kind of thing to operate, you 374 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: do need some of these other things to matter, you know, 375 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: and right now it just feels like they don't matter. 376 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: And I think Peter Malnay much more relatable than most 377 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: of these guys. Why he's not that rich relative to 378 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: golf terms. I looked at his career earnings. He made 379 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: nine million dollars, been on the PGA Tour for a decade. 380 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: He's only played in three majors. I text a buddy 381 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: that's close to the golf world. I'm like, how's that? 382 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: He and statistically possible? You have a ten year career, 383 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: yet you've only played in three majors total. Now he's 384 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: in more because he wins an event, He's gets to 385 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: play in the Masters for the first time. But like 386 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: he's really more relatable. It's why Steve Kirk can relate 387 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: to every guy on his roster, why he's been the 388 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: last guy in the you know, on the roster. He's 389 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: been a bench player. He's played with Michael Jordan and 390 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan and David Robinson, like he kind of knows 391 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: it all. Tiger Woods knows one thing, making a shitload 392 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: of money being as famous as like Jesus, I mean, 393 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: all Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth know is cash winning success. 394 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, they've had bad years, but they've never 395 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: ever struggled financially since they went pro. And I'm not 396 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: holding that against him, but when you've never struggled financially, 397 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: like you don't. Hell, even the rich guy watching on 398 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: his couch in a ten million dollar home that owns 399 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: a business, it's probably gone through some rough times financially. 400 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: So I think that we're just in a sad state 401 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: of affairs. It honestly makes me sad because I've now 402 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm all in, like football pays the bills around here, 403 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: but the only other sport that I truly truly follow 404 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: hardcore and watch all the time is golf. Yeah, I 405 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: don't watch baseball and basketball like that anymore. I don't 406 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: have time seeing the ratings. Neither does America. Now I 407 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: understand neither does America with golf, but it used to 408 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: be more popular, and more people are playing than ever, 409 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: Like more people are not playing Beer League softball than 410 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: ever pick up basketball, which I played all through, you know, 411 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: my twenties, Like I'm not playing pick up basketball. I 412 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: can't afford to tear an achilles or terring a cl 413 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to be on crutches, stop playing like 414 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: five years ago. And I used to love playing basketball. 415 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: Get a good sweat, great workout, you really find out 416 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: good a shapey on. I think a lot of people 417 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: can relate to that, like you kind of if you 418 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: played pick up basketball when you're younger, you kind of 419 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: stop playing as you get older at achilles pops. Like 420 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm not Drake green Law. I don't have the forty 421 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: nine ers training staff. I don't want to drive to 422 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: get a physical rehab three times a week. So it 423 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: just it sucks. And I props to Peter Malnaughty for 424 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: really articulating that better than anyone I've heard so far. 425 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: And I think it gets back to who he is 426 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: in his profession, which you know, I've heard people. I 427 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: don't know much about him, he's kind of cheesy or whatever. 428 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: But I thought that was one of the best statements 429 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: I've heard on the current state of golf. I do 430 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: think when you watch Full Swing, two things really jumped 431 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: out to me. And this goes back to the lift. 432 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: The houses these dudes live in, I mean, justin Thomas, 433 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: which I think he bought a new, like thirteen million 434 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: dollar house within the last year, is pretty dope, it 435 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: really is. And Ricky's is on a whole nother level. 436 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: Ricky's backyard at that Florida Keys West Palm Beach, Jupiter. 437 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: Here's what I know. I'm a West Coast guy, so 438 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: I couldn't live in the Bay Area anymore. I'm like, 439 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: I want to live somewhere nicer. I was gonna leave California, 440 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: so I wasn't gonna move to like Newport, San Diego. 441 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: So it gave him disgustale and it's fucking awesome. It's 442 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: still keep my West Coast vibes. I if I wasn't 443 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: bound to this coast, easier for me to get home. 444 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Mother's a little older, see my family. I would live 445 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: in two places. One would be Nashville and the other 446 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: would be the South Florida area. And it's not like 447 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: I could afford to live on these guys street. But 448 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I've never seen a picture of Jupiter where all these 449 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: dudes live and go. That is badass. You got no 450 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: state to income Texas, no one, no mandates or anything ever. 451 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: You can do whatever the fuck you want, and that's 452 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: how you live. I know you got some hurricanes. I 453 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: know you got some rain. I know it's humidity. Shit. 454 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I live in its one hundred and fifteen degrees for 455 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: a month on straight in July. So that place I 456 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: get it, I really do. And then they kind of, 457 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say profile DJ, they kind of did. 458 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: I wish they would just have an episode on one individual, 459 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: but they kind of bounced back between guys. I'll never 460 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: forget at the it was either twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen. 461 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: I forget the exact year. But when the US opening 462 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: was at Pebble Beach and Gary Woodland won it, I went. 463 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: I think I went on Friday, and I followed DJ 464 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: for a couple holes. I remember standing close to him, 465 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: and I've been on the field pre game for fifty 466 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: NFL games I sort of got. My first takeaway was like, 467 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: this guy's built like an NFL quarterback meets an NFL 468 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: tight end. He was just massive. His arms and lower 469 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: body was big. I mean that is like a legit 470 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: athlete and not shocking that he was one of the 471 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: best players over a fifteen year span, won a couple 472 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: of majors, honestly, probably underachieved. He easily could have five 473 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: or six majors. He's just an all time golf talent. 474 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: And he's with this like sports royalty in Paulina Gretzky, 475 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: who's just a smoke show, and he just feels like 476 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: a celebrity, right. His wife clearly is, and his wife's 477 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: dad is, you know, probably one of the most famous 478 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: athletes in the history of my life. Right, and he 479 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: even played It's not like he played one of the 480 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: main sports in America. He played hockey. And there's no 481 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: one my age or older if you just say Wayne 482 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: Gretzky that doesn't immediately go, yeah, it's the best hockey 483 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: player of all time. And you just look at those 484 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: two and you go, God, this guy is just he feels, honestly, 485 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: more like an NFL player or an NBA player than 486 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: he does a golfer. And I wish we would have 487 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: got more DJ I really do. And as someone who's 488 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: gambled on him a lot over the years, I miss him, 489 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: I really do. And I hope he plays well. But 490 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: his pad's badass too. I mean, all these guys have 491 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: these sweet modern homes with these pools that go. The 492 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: one thing I've always wondered about West Palm Beach and Florida, 493 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: just the Florida Keys or whatever. Can you just walk 494 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: to the water. Are there saltwater crocs or gators or 495 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: you don't worry about anything. Can you just walk down 496 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: there and like your dogs can swim or you know, 497 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: cause in the lakes in the Gulf in Florida they're 498 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: gators floating around. Are you able to do that if 499 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: you live on the water, like if you live in 500 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: the Tahoe Keys, you know, back in my neck of 501 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: the woods, you just I mean it's cold, but you 502 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: just jump in the water that there's nothing in there 503 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: besides some fish. Are you Can you do that in Florida? 504 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: Because I never would. Whenever I see these people wakeboarding 505 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: down south, I'm like, Uh, don't you guys have snakes 506 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: and gators like, yeah, we might not run into them. 507 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 1: It's like, you couldn't pay me to get in that 508 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: water where the lake I grew up going to barri 509 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: Essa had nothing in there. Hell, fish weren't even in there. 510 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: So I just the full swing. Overall. Some of the 511 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: the Zach Johnson stuff was was pretty cringe. That was 512 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: a tough watch and I really think and listen, Justin 513 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: Thomas has been one of the most incredible starts to 514 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: a pro career of the non like all time great 515 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: guys we've ever seen. He's got whatever, twelve thirteen wins, 516 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: a couple of majors. I mean he made a cut 517 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: when he was sixteen years old. He's clearly a star. 518 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: He was so terrible last year. He really was shut 519 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: eighty one in the US Open eighty one and Keigan 520 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: Bradley won multiple times. I really think he can got 521 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: royally screwed. And you watch that he wanted it bad. 522 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: It's one thing we all want certain things bad, and 523 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: no one's guaranteed anything in life. You don't deserve shit. 524 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: I do think he earned his way on that team, 525 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: and for Zach Johnson to just go the other thing 526 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: is like buddy buddy crowd, And I get it, they're 527 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: all friends. We all roll with certain people, Justin and 528 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Ricky and Speith. I mean Ricky won last year. Like 529 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: Ricky was good, right, Speith obviously was much better than 530 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: Justin Thompson. I understand those guys getting on, but to 531 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: not bring Keegan Bradley just because all these guys were buddies. 532 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: That was a tough watch. It really was. And after 533 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: the fact, not that Keegan Bradley would have helped them 534 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: win or not lose by as much, but still, like, 535 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: what's the point of this whole thing, right? What is 536 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: play well? Get on the team? It was clear he 537 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: never had a shot. He would have had to win 538 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: like three more times to even be considered. So I 539 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty embarrassing. And I was thinking, one 540 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: issue I think this season has had is Scotti Scheffler. 541 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: Who knows and by the time you're listening to this, 542 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: he could be up at this tournament. He was under 543 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: a three to one favorite to win this week. They're 544 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty guys in the tournament. That is 545 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: insane to me. If you are under ten to one 546 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: in a golf tournament, you are playing at an elite 547 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: level if I can give you eight nine to one odds, 548 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, I'm still probably not crazy to 549 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: take them, right, Like when Rom's on, when Scott He's on, 550 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, Tiger back in the day, what Rory or 551 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: Speith would have been. He kind of in their peaks 552 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: that just that really is rare. It doesn't happen that often. 553 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: But he's carrying his weight like he's doing everything he can. 554 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: One of the issues is some of the guys that 555 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: ultimately turned down the money, like Xander and Can't Lee 556 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: turned down money. They're not that famous to casual fans. 557 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: They don't do that much when they're on TV. Xander's 558 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: an awesome player, but he's not He means nothing to 559 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: the overall scope of television ratings. Ricky Fowler, Jordan Speith, 560 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: and I'd even throw Justin Thomas in there kind of 561 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: matter right to this current iteration of the PGA Tour, 562 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: and they're just nowhere to be found, like nowhere to 563 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: be found. I mean Justin Thomas. It sucks because I 564 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: love his game, but he's just not very good right 565 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: down relative to what they would need him to be. 566 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: They don't need him to be Scotty. But Wyndham Clark, 567 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: who I saw today, I was in the car. I 568 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: think he heard his back, which not ideal right with 569 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: the majors coming up, but he's he's lapped those guys, 570 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: he really has. And if the PGA Tour had one 571 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: of those three guys playing at his level, especially if 572 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: it was Jordan or Ricky like, that would help. That 573 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: would But when it's just Scotty taking on a bunch 574 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: of randoms, it's one thing of it's Tiger, and even 575 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Tiger was taken on like some legendary players like Ernie 576 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: Els is one of the greatest players of all time. 577 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: Google VJ sings record. Where are these guys currently? And Phil? 578 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably like a top five or six 579 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: player of all time. I just the hard part about golf. 580 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do when guys aren't playing well. 581 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: But the PGA Tour cannot afford for like Jake Knapp 582 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: and some of these guys to just be immediately better 583 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: than like the core four or five guys now. And 584 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: Xander is playing well and he's world ranking wise, money wise, 585 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: like he's an elite player. But I just think that 586 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: little crew, you know, the spring Break crew kind of 587 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: being irrelevant early on this season is just not ideal. 588 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: And then I wanted to look ahead really quick at 589 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: the Master speaking of like, you know, the the odds, 590 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: clearly the betting favorite is going to be Scottie Scheffler. 591 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to quantify rom. I was in the car yesterday. 592 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: I was listening to Coult Nohost on PG Tour Radio 593 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: and held with him out here at Whisper Rock, and 594 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: he said, he shot like the easiest sixty four you'll 595 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: ever see. I mean, he's just he He obviously is 596 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: really good, but like we don't have any context. Is 597 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: he just gonna show up at Augusta he's a defending 598 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: champion and just look just like Scotty and they'll just 599 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: be equals, or is there gonna be some rust Like 600 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: I know, just on a random day, he can go 601 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: out and he beat anyone in the world easily, and 602 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: that includes Scotty Scheffler. If they just picked up in 603 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: a random course, played one on one, like he could 604 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: beat him by several shots. But does that translate to 605 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: competition and you know, for the first time, like the 606 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: other guys, Phil DJ Koepka, like they dealt with everyone 607 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: watching him Bryson these last couple of years when they 608 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: defected for the last whatever six majors. But Ron hasn't 609 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: and he's coming back as a defending champion. One of 610 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: the big conversations is gonna be just about that right 611 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: when he does his press conference. I hope everything's normal, 612 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I just I would be nervous 613 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: to bet on John Rahm, not because he's not a 614 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: great player, but just because there's gonna be a lot 615 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: of things flying left and right when it comes to 616 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: that week for him, and thinking of another live guy 617 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: that you go. I actually like Koepka more in this 618 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: in Augusta, just because he doesn't have any of that one. 619 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't give a shit. He's always said I only 620 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: play for the majors, and he proved last year like 621 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: when he's healthy the majors. Do not bet against him, 622 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: do not bet against Brooks Kopka. I would not be 623 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: shocked at all if we see Brooks win another Major 624 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: this year, which, again, like Raw, it's hard to quantify, 625 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: like if he finished tenth or third or fiftieth, what 626 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: does that even mean? On liv I don't care about him. 627 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: That does not mean anything to me his status on 628 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: LYFT because I know when those tournaments show up in 629 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: his back or his knees, right, he's a major factor. 630 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: That's where DJ like, I don't know, I feel the 631 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: most confident this major season, even more than Rom Brooks 632 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: because now by the time we get to the second 633 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: or third major, maybe Rom understands the hoopla that comes 634 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: with being a live guy. Now, Like is he gonna 635 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: wear the live hat? That's you know, Brooks doesn't. Brooks 636 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: just wears the Nike stuff. You have the rest of 637 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: the guys wearing like their seven aces and smart Water 638 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: whatever the fuck their team's names are. That Brooks doesn't 639 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: give a shit. Brooks doesn't even end in the majors 640 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: like talk positively about liv. He just he truly talks 641 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: independent contractor. I'm here for me, I'm here for my legacy. 642 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm here to be a legend. I'm here to win 643 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: more of these things. None of that other stuff matters. 644 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: I never liked regular golf to begin with. I only 645 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: play for these things, and I've proven that I can 646 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: play these things better than basically everybody. I think his 647 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: major record, like literally, I saw a stat which was 648 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: going around last year. He was like eighty under par 649 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: the last like five years of majors, and the only 650 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: guy remotely close was like ten under par. I mean, 651 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: he has boat raced when you factor in all four 652 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: majors over the last five or six years whenever he 653 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: first started winning them, and I just I'm gonna have 654 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: money on him. I think you would just be crazy 655 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: not to. And then there's you know, you would say 656 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: Wyndham Clark, but I gotta see it. I'm talking Augusta, 657 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: especially now that his back is injured. Speace always hard 658 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: because he always plays well there, but you know, you 659 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: watch him plays all over the place. So I feel 660 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: now I already have a bet on will Zlaturus. There 661 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: are other guys that have had success there before, right 662 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: Xanders played there well, A bunch Tony Fenoes played well. Obviously. 663 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: There are other guys that are gonna be very interesting 664 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: in terms of like top fives and top tens and 665 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: top twenties, but when it just comes to winning, it 666 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: feels like only a handful of guys. Right, Scotty if 667 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: Ron plays well. Definitely him obviously, Koepka, I mean Xalatoris 668 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: has proven when he's healthy like he's a major major 669 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: factor in these tournaments. He's he's got a little Kopka 670 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: to him. He really does, because he's played well earlier 671 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: this year at a really multiple tournaments was a bay 672 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: Hill and he played well at RIV So I've already 673 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: the xalator I got Xalatorus at like fifty to one. 674 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: I think he's already down to like twenty five or 675 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: thirty to one. But if he's healthy, like I expect 676 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: him to be right in the mix. Then the other 677 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: thing you watch full swing. Like last year's weather was 678 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: so terrible, so hopefully this year we get good weather. 679 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: But there's nothing better. I mean, football is pretty special, obviously. 680 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: I put Augusta non like NFL Playoff super Bowl. To me, 681 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: Augusta is the second best event of the year. It's 682 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: definitely the best event post football. It's way better in 683 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: March madness. I mean, there's not an NBA game that 684 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: I would even compare to it. I still like October baseball, 685 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: but that doesn't hold a candle. Augusta is a pretty 686 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: special time. The volume