1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Bucks. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: We have got a lot of details to discuss surrounding 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 3: the ongoing fallout of debate implosion from Joe Biden and 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 3: the resulting implosion of his candidacy that has continued to 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: play out in slow motion. We will discuss all of that. 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: As for now, Biden is claiming that he is going 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: to stay in the race, which I think is absolutely 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: fabulous news for those of us who want to see 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: Donald Trump win, because I frankly don't see any way 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: four months out that Joe Biden is capable of winning. 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: And there's lots of data to support that that is true, 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: and we will discuss that in great detail today. Take 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 3: your calls, answer them on a variety of topics as well. 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight two. 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: I am solo today because Buck is that jury duty 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: in Miami. He just texted me that he's going in 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: for Vardar that it means he's being questioned. He doesn't 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: know at all what case he is potentially involved in, 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: but that is where he is as we speak right now. 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: So who knows how long or if he'll get seated 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: on jury duty, but we hope to have him back 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: sooner rather than later. But he had put it off 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: as long as he could, and they said he had 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: to show up today. So that is where Buck is. 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: But major breaking news in the last hour and a 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: half or so, the Supreme Court has sided with Donald 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: Trump on presidential immunity to a large degree in a 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: six to three decision. Big picture, this means that the 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: only case that is going to be completed and go 32 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: to a jury and have a verdict rendered is the 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: Alvin braggcase. We'll talk about that. The New York City 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: bookkeeping felonies elevated from a misdemeanor to a felony. That 35 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: sentencing scheduled right now for Thursday of next week. I've 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: got some theories on that, as you might imagine. But 37 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: let's talk right now about what the presidential immunity case 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: told us, what's going to happen now and why there 39 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: are so many left wingers already beginning to panic associated 40 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: with the failure of their law for law fare attempts. 41 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: Now not a surprise the way this one broke down. 42 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: The three liberals on the left in the court disagreeing 43 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: with the majority. But essentially, what the court said is 44 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: that the president has a substantial privilege associated with his 45 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: office that makes it difficult to charge him with crimes 46 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: that are related to his official acts as president of 47 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: the United States. They took some of the allegations in 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: this complaint filed by Jack Smith and said we believe 49 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: these are official acts, which officially takes them off the board. 50 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: And then they said there remained some acts which while 51 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: there may be a presumption that they are within presidential privilege. 52 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: And that's very important because the presumption means presumption that 53 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: a crime was not committed. In other words, you have 54 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: to get over the protective p number surrounding the president's acts. 55 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: And then there are potentially unofficial acts which could be prosecutable. 56 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: And let me kind of take you into that, and 57 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: I will answer questions if you guys want to reach 58 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: out via email, if you want to call in eight 59 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: hundred and two eighty two. To the best of my 60 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: legal ability here, but we've tried to tell you this 61 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: is the direction this was coming. And I told you 62 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: I thought this opinion would come down in the July 63 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: fourth week, and we now have it. And again, big picture, 64 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: what this does is the Jack Smith case is over. 65 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: It is not going to go to a jury. It 66 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: is not even I believe, possible to even start it 67 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: between now and November. If Trump wins, he'll have his 68 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: Department of Justice dismiss this case. But now there will 69 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: be a battle over what is official and what is 70 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: innofficial for purposes of these acts. And let me give 71 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: you just kind of an idea of official versus unofficial acts. 72 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: If a president decides that there is a terror group 73 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: operating in a foreign country, and he believes that we 74 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: need to strike that terror group, and when we it 75 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: actually ends up being the case, as recently happened in Afghanistan, 76 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: that we end up killing someone who was innocent and 77 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 3: in fact they were not the terrorists that we thought 78 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: they were, even though that has led to the death 79 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: of an innocent person, that would be an official act, 80 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: and the president would not be able to be charged 81 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: for that decision. And I think most of you out there, 82 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: regardless of your politics, you would sit around and you 83 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: would say, Okay, that's why presidential powers matter so much. 84 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: The president's not going to be perfect. His advisors are 85 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: not going to be perfect. 86 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: He can be. 87 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: Acting in what he believes is the best interest of 88 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: our nation, to protect the troops, to protect the American citizens, 89 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: and he can be wrong. And I use that example 90 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: because Biden just did that. Biden just killed in the 91 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: past year or so a one hundred percent innocent man 92 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: in Afghananistan and members of his family. 93 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: According to the reporting of The New York. 94 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: Times, that guy was totally and his family certainly without 95 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: any wrongdoing, and we screwed up and. 96 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: He was killed. They thought he was a terrorist. He wasn't. 97 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: Even though I think Joe Biden's an awful president, Biden 98 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: was acting on the recommendations of his national security team, 99 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: and that failure shouldn't put Joe Biden in prison. He 100 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: shouldn't be able to be charged with a violation of 101 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: the law because that was well within his presidential powers. 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: I think most of you out there nodding along, saying, yeah, Okay, 103 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: I understand that that's an important legacy opinion that they 104 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: have now addressed in the Supreme Court. Okay, what about 105 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: unofficial acts? The example that I've used on this show 106 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: for some time is if the President of the United 107 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: States in the oval office, picked up a paperweight and 108 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: hit one of his advisors in the head because he 109 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: was angry at that advisor. And when he struck that advisor, 110 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: he caught them in the temple, and that individual died. 111 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: The President would be prosecutable because that is outside the 112 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: scope of his official access. President, that's an easy one. 113 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: I've given you two easy ones. One president orders an 114 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: attack on a terrorist, ends up getting it wrong, innocent 115 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: man dies. President can't be prosecuted. That's an official act. 116 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: On the opposite extreme, president picks up a paperweight in 117 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: the oval office, strikes an advisor or a waiter or 118 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: whoever it might be in the White House residence and 119 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: kills that individual. The President would be prosecutable because that's 120 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: not an official act. Those are sort of the permutations 121 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: the scope of potential analysis. What the Supreme Court has 122 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: said with some of the acts that Trump undertook on 123 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: that day of January sixth, but also surrounding his challenge 124 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: of the election results of twenty twenty, is we're gonna 125 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: now send this back to the District Court. They are 126 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: going to examine is this an official or an unofficial act? 127 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: If they believe that it is an unofficial act, then 128 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: theoretically Trump could be prosecuted for that because it is 129 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: not within the scope of his presidential powers. But once 130 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: they make that determination, and Judge Chutkin could make the 131 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: determination that all of these are presidential acts, because again, 132 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: remember the presumption is that the president is engaging in 133 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: an official act. So honestly, most of the time, especially 134 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: I believe, having read this opinion, these acts and I 135 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: told you this for a while, I think they are 136 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: within the official powers of the president. But if she 137 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: decides that they are not, and that these are basically 138 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: private acts outside of the scope of his presidential powers, 139 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: it is more akin to the analogy I made of 140 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: the president picking up a paperweight and striking someone in 141 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: the head, committing a murder outside of the scope of 142 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: his official acts. Then it will go to the DC 143 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: Circuit on appeal probably and then also back to the 144 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 3: Supreme Court, which would then have to consider it, probably 145 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: in the next year term. Basically, this case is finished 146 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: with what we know about Atlanta. I think also significantly 147 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: the Atlanta case, which deals with many of the same 148 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: aspects as the cases of January sixth opinion The Atlanta 149 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: case with our good friend Fanny willis also finished, and 150 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: again the classified document case a little bit different, but 151 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: it doesn't appear that one is moving forward anytime soon either. 152 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: The big takeaway here is that the Biden gamble that 153 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: they were going to tie up President Trump in court 154 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: and that he was going to be a serial convicted felon, 155 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: and that that was going to render her him, in 156 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: the minds of the electorate, ineligible or unable to be 157 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: elected because of the because of the law fair machinations. 158 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: That's all failed worse for the Biden administration. It has 159 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: now blown up in their face and in the process 160 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: made Trump stronger than he was before all of this started. 161 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: Now that doesn't mean that now the Democrat Party, desperate 162 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: what is as it is likely to be, may not 163 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: make a totally irrational move and try to put Trump 164 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: in prison next week. I actually think Judge Merchant is 165 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: going to try that. You are dealing with a cornered 166 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: politician in Joe Biden, who is losing on all fronts, 167 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: who if the election were today, would not only lose, 168 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: I don't believe it would be particularly close in the 169 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: electoral college based on all the battleground polling. Desperate times, 170 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: call for desperate measures. Be aware we have entered desperation 171 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: zone for Democrats four months out. How is this going 172 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: to play out? Where do we go from here? What 173 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: legal questions do you have? 174 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: Again? Major breaking news? Last week we. 175 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: Told you the Supreme Court, in our opinion, got the 176 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: First Amendment case wrong. I give them credit here. I 177 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: believe they got this case close to one hundred percent right. 178 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: And it's not just a Trump precedent. This is about 179 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: the power of every president for the rest of our 180 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: lives and beyond the lives of the living today. This 181 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: is a precedent that will stand potentially for hundreds of 182 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: years as an attempt to deligate exactly what the president's 183 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: powers are in a criminal context as it pertains to 184 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: official and unofficial business. It's a monumental ruling. It is 185 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: a huge decision that has come down. 186 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the year of impact with 187 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. 188 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: How long are you now cleared without do you know 189 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: how long? You don't have to go back for any 190 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: one year? 191 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Wow? It's yeah, this may become a more regular occurrence 192 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: in my life. But I'll tell you real quick The 193 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: downside is the courthouse here in Miami day looks like 194 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: a Soviet penal colony or something. I mean, it looks 195 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: like where they would have sent you it. Really, a 196 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: courthouse should have Roman columns, sweeping entrance, you know, it 197 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: should there should be the majesty of the state. And 198 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: it really this it's called the Gerstein Building, I think 199 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: down to Miami Dade. It looks like something that you know, 200 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: Stalin would have sent his enemies to. And it's not 201 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: even a prison, mind you. This is just the courthouse. 202 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: So there's that. But everybody actually was very professional. I 203 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: was impressed with the with one of the judges who 204 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: came out. We're in a room of about two hundred people, 205 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: I would say, just just stacked. I mean just people 206 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder and all these chairs. The judge came 207 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: out gave us a little pep talk. I know you 208 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: don't want to be here. I know this seems like 209 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: it stinks, but it is your duty, and thank you 210 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: for being here. That's the short version of it. Everything 211 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: was going great, and then after lunch, when I had 212 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: not been picked for jurrell morning and it was getting 213 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: close to I knew when I would get dismissed. One 214 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: of the bailiffs kind of looked me a little funny, Clay, 215 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: and the judge in this one trial had gathered us 216 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: all in the hallway outside of the courtroom to tell 217 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: us what our fate would be. There was a last 218 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: minute plea deal that was struck, which I think this 219 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: often happened. 220 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: I told you, as soon as they get the jury ready, 221 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: the lawyers, the pressure to get a deal done always 222 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: comes up. That's that's like ninety percent of the time 223 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: what happens. You're there to drive the negotiation in the settlement. 224 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: And I just wanted to know what the case was 225 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: even about. We never even found out. But the judge 226 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: was very, very friendly, very polite. She said, I know, 227 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: I have some good news for all of you. But 228 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: the bailiff came over and he looked at me, and 229 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: you know, you get you know, he gave me the 230 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: look like, wait a second, because everyone there thinks my 231 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: name is James, because technically that's my first name. He's like, 232 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: I know you. He's like, you're the guy. You're the 233 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: guy from Fox and from radio. And I kind of 234 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: gave him like a little quiet nod and I swear. 235 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: He turns a judge. He goes, judge, you see this, 236 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: I know this guy from TV. I was like, shh, 237 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: this is in front of all the other jurors, right, 238 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, let's keep that, let's keep that down. And 239 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: and then one of our Jewish brethren came over. He 240 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: had a yamaka on came over and he tugged my 241 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: shirt and he'sa like, hey, thanks for what you and 242 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: Clay do every day. I was like, yes, great victory. Victory. 243 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: So anyway, and then we got all got dismiss So 244 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: that was Jerry Dudy. Now let's get into news. 245 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: Oh. 246 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: The other thing is a reminder you never want to 247 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: be the target of the criminal justice system. And I 248 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: know that people say, oh, Trump is unstoppable for us 249 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: and look what he's been through and nothing can stop Trump. Well, yes, true, 250 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: But just having to show up and be a criminal 251 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: defendant in a building like this for a lot of 252 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: people I think would be soul crushing and would really 253 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: know on more them. You know, just just having to 254 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: be there and you are on trial would be trying 255 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: to sleep if you faced legitimate prison time and you 256 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: knew your trial was coming up, you're out on bail 257 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: or whatever. 258 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: I mean, the amount of physical stress associated with the 259 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: criminal justice system is a huge part of the punishment itself, 260 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: whether you're found guilty or innocent. 261 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: I was trying to follow events yesterday from the jurm. 262 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: The wi FI was kind of bad, unfortunately, so I 263 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: had to pop in it out. Is when does Bannon 264 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: report for his sentence? He's in? He's in. I believe he. 265 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: I believe he is now in the prison, and I 266 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: know he did his show yesterday and we talked some 267 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: about it. You get the staff in New York can 268 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: confirm that he's been officially admitted in. In theory, he 269 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: would be there until November one as a part of 270 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: serving that four month sentence which I talked about yesterday. 271 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: Buck. 272 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: I actually think is a hugely underdiscussed story that if 273 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: you're just merely associated with Trump, they're legitimately putting you 274 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: in jail for your political belief. 275 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. They are absolutely tearing down any sense of fairness 276 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: in the justice system to get at Trump, not just 277 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: with Trump, but with people around him. I want you 278 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: all to know that we reached out directly to Steve 279 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: and his team and invited him to come on before 280 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: he started his sentence because we wanted him to be 281 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: able to make sure everybody knows that he's being targeted. 282 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: And you know, we clearly stand with Steve. He's a 283 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: fighter for his principles and we wish him well while 284 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: he is dealing with what he's dealing with right now. 285 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: You know, I have Steve's the kind of guy who's 286 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 2: going to go into prison though and make me like 287 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: he'll make friends. I'm just saying he's very He's a 288 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: very charismatic guy. I'm sure he doesn't want to be 289 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: in prison, but I'm saying, you know, he's he'll be okay. 290 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: I have a lot of a lot of faith and 291 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: confidence in him. He'll come out and he'll come out 292 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: even stronger. But I'll tell you this, Clay. The one 293 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: thing that I was that was very apparent yesterday is 294 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: I was sitting in that jury room as you as 295 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: you know, getting ready for Well, it turned out getting 296 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: ready for nothing because I didn't get to sit on 297 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: a jury or even get to go through Vadir. But 298 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: the decision came down from the Supreme Court yesterday. And 299 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: I know you've talked through the you know, the the 300 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: specifics of it with the audience already and everyone's pretty 301 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: up to speed. But it was amazing because the twenty 302 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: four hour cycle has played out. What I've seen is 303 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: how many people have completely lost their minds and shown 304 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: themselves to be either lacking in reading comprehension. I mean 305 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: they really have like a soda mayor level of reading 306 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: comprehension which is not high, or they're just so dishonest 307 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: and so emotionally compromised that they will absolutely say anything. 308 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 2: Producer Greg pulled this together. I mean, I would say 309 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: this is a win for Trump, as you discussed yesterday, 310 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: insofar as it's very unlikely. I know, I say there's 311 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: still a chance, and I still believe it's a chance, 312 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: but very very unlikely. There's going to be a trial 313 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: before the election. But Trump keeps winning as these things 314 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: make their way through the court system on the federal side. 315 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: But they didn't say that he can do anything. Far 316 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: from it. They actually said that not only can they 317 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: be held liable, criminally liable for personal conduct. This is 318 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: what we said. He can't bludge in his secretary to 319 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: death with a candlestick in the Oval office and then 320 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: say I'm the president right, Oh, you're going to prison. 321 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: And we've all known that all along. He can't take 322 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: a bag full of gold coins under the you know, 323 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: under the desk, so to speak, in the Oval office 324 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: and say okay, now I'll sign the bill. He doesn't 325 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: have a a right as president to do that. That's 326 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: not within his presidential powers. All this is saying is, 327 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: you know, if the president calls for president calls for 328 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: an airstrike on a terrorist group in Afghanistan that he has, 329 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: you know, reason to believe is a an imminent threat 330 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: to US security or interest, you can't lock him up 331 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: in prison for murder and say, oh, but he murdered 332 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: those people like that is within his presidential powers. It's 333 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. The media freak out on this that I've witnessed, 334 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: and I know you got to sell us yesterday, but Clay, 335 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Greg pulled this together. Just listen as 336 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: everybody play one. 337 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: For all practical purposes, this is absolute immunity. 338 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: Trump. 339 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Court has to create him a king. 340 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: The imperial presidency is now made concrete, a big step 341 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: forward to having an authoritarian president. The blueprint on how 342 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: to end the rule of. 343 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: Law a green light for criminal activity. 344 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: Did the court to say, yeah, you can assassinate a 345 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: political rival. 346 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: President Biden could dispatch the military use Sealed Team six 347 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: to go after his political rivals. Orders the Navy Sealed 348 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: Team six to assassinate a political rival. Immune organizes a 349 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: military coup to hold onto power. 350 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: Immune that we must have bold and decisive presidents is 351 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: more important than the principle that we should have presidents 352 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: who obey the law. 353 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: This is a death squad ruling. 354 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: Are all of those people and we know said that 355 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: was written Madou at the end, and we recognize some 356 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: of the voices. Are they honestly just morons? We've convinced 357 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: some section of the public that they're smarter than they are. 358 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: Do they just not read that? It is not possible. 359 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: I read the whole thing because I was stuck in 360 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: a jury room and I couldn't do the show, and 361 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: I read the whole decision yesterday. It's not possible to 362 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: read what the Supreme Court wrote and think what they 363 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: are saying is true, because it's not even close to 364 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: being true. You and I are rare because we actually 365 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: read so. I mean, this is a media. 366 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: In media, the number of times that I see people 367 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 3: commenting on the stories, not the actual document is ninety 368 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 3: five percent. The story becomes the commentary, not the relation 369 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: and reliance on the documents themselves. And I've said this 370 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: on the show before, but I think it's so important 371 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: and so instructive for people out there read the document. 372 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 3: When I was in law school, I remember my contract's 373 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: professor saying, Hey, we're going to talk about a lot 374 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: of theories, and we're going to discuss a lot of 375 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: different ways to analyze contracts. But there are three things 376 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: that matter the most. The contract to contract, the contract, 377 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: read the actual document. The number of times buck that 378 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: people won't read their actual document. I actually thought John 379 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: Roberts did a great job responding to this, and I've 380 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: been critical of John Roberts before. He addressed the craziness 381 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: of the descent, which was unhinged, and that is what 382 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: is driving I think a lot of this conversation was 383 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: the unhinged descent that is not related to reality. He said, 384 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 3: separation of powers is the essence of our constitutional government. 385 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: If the president behaves in a way that the legislative 386 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: branch believes is unacceptable, there is a mechanism to remove 387 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: him from power, and the president, as you said, and 388 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: is rightly laid out here. The difference between official and 389 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: unofficial acts is actually kind of a fascinating debate, you know, 390 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: because you can draw the line. But I said yesterday 391 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: on the show Buck, I did labor and employment law, 392 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: whether or not someone acts within the course of their 393 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: employment is one of the foundational tenets of labor and 394 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: employment law when it comes to RESPONDIAT superior. But basically, 395 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: whether your company can be held responsible for your actions. 396 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: This is not something new. 397 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not new at all. In fact, Clay, this 398 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: is one where we agreed every step of the way 399 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: on what the outcome would be. And we both were right. 400 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: I mean, this this was what was it, and we 401 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: weren't the only ones. But this is to anyone who 402 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: understands the issues involved, this was the really the only outcome. 403 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: The alternative would be. Oh, I didn't like the last president, 404 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: you know, when he called for again the military stuff 405 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: is the easiest. When he called for that special Forces 406 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: raid to save you know, a kidnapped American in Gaza, 407 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: and there were a few civilians that got killed in 408 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: the crossfire. Let's try h for murder. I think that's 409 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: murder and and you would the president would have to 410 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: go former president would have to go on trial. I mean, 411 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: this is insane. 412 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: You don't have us for Biden himself. We talked about 413 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: this on the show, and I discussed it yesterday. He 414 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: ordered an air strike in Afghanistan that killed one hundred 415 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: percent innocent man in his family. They believe that he 416 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: was a terrorist. They ordered our president. 417 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 2: Kill like seven kids. It was like a male kid, 418 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: and they totally innocent. 419 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: That would mean that when Joe Biden is done with 420 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: his term in offense, that he could be put in 421 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: prison for his his involvement in that murder. 422 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: It was a murder. 423 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 3: I mean, it was an errant strike that killed an 424 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: innocent man, directed by our president. It's within his powers. 425 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: He shouldn't be prosecuted or he wasn't trying to do it. 426 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: You know. 427 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: At some level. This is also reminded the presidents have 428 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: a lot of power, and having a president who's a 429 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: walking vegetable with that power is reckless. That's the other 430 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: part of this that I think didn't get nearly hasn't 431 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: gotten nearly enough attention with everything that's going on. But 432 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: the soda maior descent, which again I read the whole 433 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: thing because stuck in jury duty all morning, Right, what 434 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: else are you gonna do? I mean, I would have 435 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: read it before the show if I could, but it 436 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: gave me extra time with it. Sodomior is doing damage 437 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court because now we know there are 438 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: people on the Supreme Court who don't really seem to 439 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: have like a high school level understanding of logic and 440 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: the law. I don't know what else to say. She's 441 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: not up for this, and I don't say that about Kagan. 442 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: I haven't seen enough of Katangi Brown Jackson stuff. Really, 443 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: I haven't read enough where I would have a great 444 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: read on it. But I'm sort of my It is 445 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: really as though an unhinged, purple haired, nos ringed cat 446 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: lady from the comments section of MSNBC dot com is 447 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: writing Supreme Court. It's just there's no connection to reality. 448 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 2: It's as though she doesn't know what her colleagues and 449 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: that's that's unsettling. I'll be honest with you. It's not 450 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: she disagrees, but she's smart. They're Supreme Court justice that 451 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: I disagree with tremendously on things, but at least they're 452 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: operating within some framework of logic that I can understand. 453 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: She is just an unhinged MSNBC commenter, And I mean 454 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: it's it's pathetic. It makes our Supreme Court look like 455 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: a joke. 456 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: I don't even understand buck how she could have four 457 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: incredibly intelligent law clerks and produce the opinions that. 458 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: She I don't think she picks intelligent law clerks. I 459 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: don't know who they are, but I think she picks 460 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 2: based on you know, she picks them based on the 461 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: same reason she got picked. 462 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: That's what That's that's scary too, because a lot of 463 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 3: people out there don't under stand. I mean you you 464 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: basically have to be a legal genius, and I'm not 465 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: exaggerating generally speaking, and you could be a leftist legal 466 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: genius or a rightist. To be selected as a clerk, 467 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: you have to be one of the thirty five or 468 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: thirty six, you know, one of the forty or fifty 469 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: brightest legal scholars. In order to be selected, you have 470 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: to have been a great clerk in theory for a 471 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: circuit court judge. 472 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: This is but this is all clay, This is all 473 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: This is like saying it's so hard to get under 474 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: yell law. Yeah, unless you're you know, like a Native 475 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: American who writes their essay about well if she if 476 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: she is, if. 477 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: She is speaking like that, then then yes. But I 478 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: mean in general, most people out there who I think 479 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: are lawyers would say, I mean, I know several Supreme 480 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: Court clerks. They're really I'm trying not to curse. 481 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: Really the clerk did they Did they clerk for libs 482 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: or do they clerk for conservatives? Both sides? 483 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: I mean, but again, like just to be a meritocracy, 484 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 3: And maybe it's just what I'm saying, it's changed since 485 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: you were in law school twenty years ago. You got 486 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: to think about how things have adjusted since then. Because 487 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: I also have friends who went from Amherst, Harvard and 488 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: Yale and they they look around now and they're like, oh, no. 489 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the most important tier in 490 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: politics with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 491 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: Fuck, I'll give you an open right off the top. 492 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: Here are you remaining? The public demands to know, is 493 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 3: Buck Island still flying the Biden flag high? Or would 494 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: you hear on the eve of our two hundred and 495 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: forty eighth Independence Day like to join so many others 496 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: in fleeing your island on whatever possible flotation device might 497 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: still be available on the island. 498 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: I just want to make it very clear to everybody. 499 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: First of all, people are getting a little high falutin 500 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: right now, a little other high horses about how oh 501 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: look Biden, no, no, do not celebrate early. Do not 502 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: think that this is over yet. It might be over 503 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: the course of the show, and then we'll just have 504 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: to edit this out from the podcast at least. But 505 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: I have been very clear. It's not like Obama. Let 506 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 2: me be clear. I have been very clear. It is 507 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: Biden or Harris. That has always been my position. This 508 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: is I'm just gonna tell Go to the transcript, everybody, 509 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: go to the tape, Go to my x feed or 510 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: Twitter feed. Go see. I've always said Biden er Harris. 511 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: It is the Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama, Whitmer, et cetera 512 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: talk that I have been very dismissive of. Now, if 513 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: forced into a corner, I have thought it would still 514 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: be Biden over Kamala. Under the circumstances. That component of 515 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: my analysis is not feeling so warm and fuzzy today. However, 516 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: the bet my friend is Gav is third option versus Biden. Harris, 517 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: I just want clarity. No, no, no, no, you don't 518 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: it's Biden. It's Biden or no Biden. 519 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: Appreciate your kare Jian Pierre, Ministry of Disinformation. 520 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: Spin here what it is. We can go back. There's 521 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: a transcript, folks, there's audio. This doesn't have to be 522 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, based on recollection, and we're gonna go back 523 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: and pull some of this. 524 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: This is this is unbelievable. Okay, So a couple of things. 525 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: I we were just talking about this off air. Tomorrow 526 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: is July fourth. I would have usually this is you 527 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: you would agree, I think, Buck, one of the deadest 528 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: days on the entire American calendar. People are traveling, everybody's 529 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: out of work. I mean, if you, uh, if you 530 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: put on Fox News, just about every host is out 531 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 3: this week, and we're talking about, hey, we may have 532 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: to call in on July fourth, Yeah, because it's possible 533 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: news could break, or July fifth, which would usually be 534 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: a quiet day as well, that Biden is out. And 535 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: the way I would describe it, and I'm curious if 536 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: you would agree with me, Buck is first of all, 537 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: the absolute latest. The New York Times reported in the 538 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: last hour that Biden has had conversations with close out 539 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: with at least one close ally about dropping out of 540 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: the race. That is the latest news story that is 541 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: out there. He is, according to this story, this source. 542 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: I mean, let's really get into this for a second. 543 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: First of all, we may have an answer while we're 544 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: on the air, So you have to listen to us 545 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: today for all three hours. 546 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: I know you're probably a lot of you on the road, 547 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: which is great because then we'll entertain you while you're 548 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: driving to your Independence Day weekend celebration with family or whatever. 549 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: But Clay, they we'll get down into this. We may 550 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: know the answer today. They have reported that a close 551 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: aid to Biden has said that Biden is considering the 552 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: possibility that he cannot continue on because basically, after the debate, 553 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: he can't win. There have been people in the Biden orbit, 554 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: you know, spokespersons the White House, who have said that 555 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: report is categorically false, which which is amazing what you 556 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: would say if you were still dependent on Biden for 557 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: your job and the bowing out was not official yet. 558 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: But there is the Palace coup is the effort is underway. 559 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: I will admit that there is an effort to push 560 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden aside. It's just a question of Kenny hang on. 561 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: Here's the headline right now, top of the New York Times. 562 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: Biden told ally that he is weighing whether to continue 563 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: in the race. Is the headline, sub headline. The president's 564 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: conversation is the first indication he is seriously considering whether 565 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: he can recover after a devastating performance on the debate 566 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: stage in Atlanta on Thursday. That story went live and 567 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: was updated about forty five minutes ago, according to The 568 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: New York Times. Okay, interesting aspect of this. Things are 569 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: so much in an uproar that the Biden team, as 570 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 3: you just pointed out, is now saying that the New 571 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: York Times is fake news. 572 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: Think of it. 573 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: Think about how crazy things have gotten in the Democrat 574 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: camp that Joe Biden's chief advisor is saying that this 575 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: is completely untrue. Here's Andrew Bates, White House spokesman said 576 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: the claim was absolutely false and the White House had 577 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: not been given enough time to respond. I don't even 578 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: know what that means. Not enough time to respond the 579 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: way that I read that, Buck is usually the White 580 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: House is able to keep The New York Times from 581 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: writing stories they don't like. They get on the phone 582 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: with them, they scream at them, to yell at them, 583 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: and then The New York Times backs up and says, Okay, 584 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: we're not gonna run this here. They went ahead and 585 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 3: just ran it. And now we have a situation where 586 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: Joe Biden himself is saying that The New York Times 587 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: is fake news. That's how much things have turned into 588 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: an uproar. And by the way, minute to minute, we're 589 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: in this situation where anything could happen. It would not 590 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: stun me if I go on Twitter and hit refresh 591 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: if there is a breaking news story. Hey, Biden has 592 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: decided to withdraw. 593 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: It is July third, as we all know. And usually 594 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: and Clay and I have both been doing media now 595 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: for you know, over a decade, in Clay's case, several decades. 596 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: He's much older than me, and and usually at this 597 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: case we'd be talking about like, hey, like what are 598 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: you which is fun, by the way, but hey, what 599 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: are your Fourth of July? I know it's Independence weekend, 600 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: but you know we all use the shorthand fourth of 601 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: July plans. What are you going to be barbecuing? And 602 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: we might talk about some of that in the third hour. 603 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: But there is a very serious possibility that today may 604 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: be the biggest day of political news so far this 605 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: entire year. Yeah, the most earth, I mean, bigger than 606 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: the Trump verdict, Bigger than bigger than anything, bigger than 607 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: Trump winning Iowa. This could be the single biggest day 608 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: in politics of the entire your years so far, and 609 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: maybe of the entire presidential cycle when all said and done, 610 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: So we really mean it, you need to stick around 611 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: with us. 612 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Buck, I think you could make an argument 613 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: that it could be the biggest day of presidential news 614 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: since nineteen sixty eight when LBJ said he wouldn't run. 615 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: Because I mean again, I correct me if I'm wrong, 616 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: and we'll put the crew on this. I don't think 617 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: we've ever had an incumbent president choose not to run 618 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 3: in the midst of an election year since LBJ in 619 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: sixty eight. So, for many of you that are out 620 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 3: there listening to us, including Buck and me, there isn't 621 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: a historical analogy that we have been alive for when 622 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: something like this would have occurred. And I'll tell you 623 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: I was no surprise watching MSNBC all morning, and I'm 624 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: telling you they're doubling up on the early shot. 625 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 2: What's their position? 626 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I mean, are they still defending Biden from 627 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: your MSNBC. 628 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: Viewing, or how would you assess the overall tote? I mean, 629 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: I really and you can tell by the guests they 630 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: have on and every they are solidly fence sitting right now. 631 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's great. They're solidly noncommittal. They want to see 632 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: who's gonna win this power struggle there, which is interesting 633 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 2: because remember they went full back Dad Bob right after 634 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: the bait. They were doing the whole and right now 635 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 2: they're going, ooh, let's sort of see how this one 636 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: shakes out. It's by the way, it's so it's so 637 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: great to watch. It's so much fun. I'm telling you. 638 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: So, this is one of the great lines from Old 639 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: Country guys. Turtle doesn't get on a fence by an accident. 640 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 3: So right now, MSNBC is the turtle on the fence. 641 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: They are intentionally staying right there. They ain't going one 642 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: direction or the other. They are right there on top 643 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: of the fence. And I yeah, I wonder how we 644 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, way, we never got a reckoning for COVID. 645 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: Nobody's ever come out and said, hey, I was wrong. 646 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: We blew this. 647 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: I was having this conversation with my wife this morning, 648 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: and I said, this might be the story that causes 649 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: the left wing New York Times Washington Post to actually 650 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: be so humiliated, because I think that's what's going on 651 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: right now. 652 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: They have been. 653 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 3: Humiliated by the degree to which the left the Biden 654 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 3: administration was demanding that they lie. Their own intelligence has 655 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 3: been called into question, and they've asked them to. 656 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: Do too much. 657 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: Now they'll still show up and say Kamala Harris is 658 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: the modern day Nelson Mandela. If she's the nominee, Kamala 659 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: Harris is what Martin Luther King would have been if 660 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: he were still alive today, right, Like I mean, all 661 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: these puff pieces are coming. They'll try to turn Kamala 662 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: Harris into the greatest hero of modern American history. But 663 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 3: the Joe Biden's a good guy, Joe Biden, it's cheap fakes. 664 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 3: The idea that he wasn't on top of his game 665 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: at D Day or the G seven or at Juneteenth. 666 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: Now when I read it, and the New York Times 667 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: released a devastating column sorry reporting on Biden's frailty and 668 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 3: mental and physical deficiencies, and they cited all of the 669 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 3: stories that you and I have been talking about on 670 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: this show for months. One of my buddies who's a 671 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 3: Biden voter, sent me that article and he was like, wow, 672 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: did you know about all this? He's busy and I 673 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 3: was like, yes, yeah. People really trust the New York 674 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: Times to let them know what is going on. And 675 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 3: I think if you're super busy, there are still lots 676 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: of people who are just allowing that to be their source. 677 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: Clay. There are people, many of them, whose only job 678 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: is to tell the American people the truth about what 679 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: is going on inside the White House and specifically with 680 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: the President himself of the United States. There are every 681 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: major news organization has people that are assigned to that. 682 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: You know the joke you had one job, you know, 683 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: the line you had one job, they had one job. 684 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: And what we realize are rather what we see. I 685 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: think we've known this all along, but some people are 686 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: coming to this realization is that the job is actually 687 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: to protect Democrat interests. The job is not to report. 688 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: And Charles Cook over at National Review you probably saw 689 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: this tweet's going viral, but I think this really nails it. 690 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: Charles writes, if you're looking for a broader takeaway from 691 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: all this, take how the press covered up Biden's infirmity 692 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: because it wanted to protect the Democrats, and apply it 693 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: to literally every single thing that it does on any topic, 694 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: in any year, in any circumstance forever. He says. The 695 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: truth of the media, Charles nails it here. That is 696 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: their job. The people that think that they failed by 697 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: not reporting on Biden don't understand. Their job is not 698 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 2: to report the truth. Their job is to help Democrat 699 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: power and Democrat interests. 700 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: On another part of that, I read this and I 701 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: laughed and I shared it. Beckett Adams Twitter account, Pulitzer 702 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 3: Prize winning newsrooms and pundits with six figure salaries all 703 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 3: missed the deterioration of Joe Biden's cognitive abilities, while accounts 704 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 3: with handles such as Patriot Mom seventeen seventy six and 705 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: Real Eagle Underscore Freedom have been pointing it out for 706 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: about five years. But that really kind of goes at 707 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 3: the essence in a funny way of what exactly we 708 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: have seen and the fact that if you pointed it 709 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 3: out NBC News ten days ago, Buck accused me of 710 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: being a chief purveyor of disinformation for sharing an actual 711 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: video of Biden not being able to do his job. 712 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole phrase cheap fakes. You're not gonna hear 713 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: a lot about that anymore because those were all obviously real. 714 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: I would just want everyone to make sure, though, that 715 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: we frame our thinking on this accurately. It is not 716 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: that they failed to notice this. Like Clay, you mentioned 717 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: you have a friend, Yeah, who somehow didn't know. But anyway, whatever, 718 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 2: he trusted the news. Fine, people can trust the news. 719 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: That's on them. They got other life, other things they're doing. 720 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: But for the people who work in the media, they 721 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: didn't miss this. This is like the fifty one intelligence 722 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 2: officers with the Hunter Biden laptop. They weren't fooled. They 723 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: lied to you. They lied. This was intentional, This was knowing. 724 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: This was willful. It was a top two bottom campaign 725 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 2: of dare I say misinformation about Joe Biden's age, frailty, 726 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: mental acuity, cognition, and they expect us to just forget that. 727 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: And by even people over at CNN, I don't even 728 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: want to have to go through to name the names, like, oh, like, 729 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: look what we've discovered. No, you were part of the fraud. 730 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: You were part of the calm the whole time. You 731 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 2: don't get to be the Oh, I'm a speaking truth. 732 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm a journalist. I'm honest. Now, No, you went along 733 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 2: with this the whole time, and now the whole thing's 734 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: blown up in their faces. And we'll see. I believe 735 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 2: there's a phone call which is going to be happening 736 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: within minutes, right, I think it's scheduled. It's still scheduled 737 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 2: for there's a White House phone call on the schedule today. 738 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: There's like an all hands call. And then there's a 739 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 2: Biden Kamala lunch. You've seen that too, Yeah, And then they've. 740 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 3: Got the governors in tonight, right, the governor Democrat governors 741 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: are all there. 742 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you something right now, I 743 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: have a prediction for all of you about what's going 744 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: to happen. I think I can see this pretty clearly. Clay, 745 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: you're going to have to bring us back. 746 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 3: I want everybody to think I'm kind of blown away here. 747 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 3: Who do you trust more? The Biden administration or the 748 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: New York Times. This is a when they actually start 749 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 3: feuding with each other. I think it's actually a very 750 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 3: hard thing to try to figure out, to get your 751 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: heads around that this could actually be happening. 752 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four, the Year of Impact with 753 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. 754 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: Buck Island seemed like it was about to be uninhabitable. 755 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: Maybe one of those islands that they decided they were 756 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 3: going to test nukes around and everybody had to re 757 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 3: locate because it was no longer safe to be there. 758 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 2: Buck Island as a nuclear wasteland already claimed. 759 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: Some of those islands are beautiful in the off the 760 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: coast of Puerto Rico. 761 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: You know they glow in the dark at night too. 762 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, well that's the downside, but they're they're easy 763 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: to find. 764 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 2: So you said you think he'll still be there on Monday. Yeah, 765 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: this is what. 766 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 3: Buck Island is down to. We think we have enough 767 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: coconuts to make it till Monday. We've got there's enough water. 768 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 3: We're hoping it's gonna rain. You are committed to November fifth, 769 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 3: or you're committed to Monday right now on Buck Island. 770 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 2: I again, we're gonna have to go back to the transcript, 771 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: so everyone's very clear. I have said all along it 772 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: is Biden or Harris. When there was all this Michelle 773 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: Obama talk, which we all remember people calling in for 774 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: the last twelve months about, oh, it's gonna be Michelle Obama. 775 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: I said no, no, no, they said Gavin Newsom. I 776 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 2: said no, no, no, it's gonna be Biden or Harris. 777 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: And that is the foundation of a steak. Bet. We 778 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: will go back, We'll check the transcript on this one. 779 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 2: How I can't believe you are waffling like this. 780 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 3: I'm going to your own Twitter account to do my 781 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 3: own research here, because I seem to remember a recent 782 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: tweet that said it's going to be Biden. Everyone else 783 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 3: is a moron? Am I am? 784 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: I wrong? Said that. I didn't say that. That's not fair. 785 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 3: I said that that might be a rough, rough version, 786 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: that's a little harsh. That maybe my characterization. So he's 787 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 3: not bowing out buck Sexton two days ago. He's period 788 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 3: not period bowing period out buck Sexton two days ago. 789 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: I think that he's not bowing out. I'm going to 790 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: tell you this right now. I understand that there's I 791 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: understand that the US laughing at this. He's not hold 792 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 2: on five days ago, buck Sexton. 793 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 3: He's period not period dropping period out period Ever. 794 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm in your own Twitter account. No, I understand that 795 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 2: that's those statements have been made. I understand those statements 796 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: have been made, and I would tell everybody you're likea 797 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: Pierre as we sit here. As we sit here, I'm 798 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: gonna have the team go back and pull the tape 799 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: because all the chatter he can't stay in the race. 800 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: End quote. 801 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 3: Here's the Democrat plot to replace him is wasted energy. 802 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, sorry, I'm just doing my research. You 803 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 2: continue on. Uh, you know, he's there's some there's some 804 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: cheap fakes coming from Clay right now. There's some cherry 805 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 2: picking and misinformation happening here because there are other things 806 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 2: there on the x account which I will find which 807 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 2: tell everybody that it is in fact going to be 808 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: Biden or Harris. But I will say this, I think 809 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 2: he's still going uh going to make it. Wait, just 810 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: just like anyway. We don't want to spend this whole 811 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 2: time so many breaking news stories. 812 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 3: By the way, it's almost him possible to know what 813 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 3: is that. The chaos inside of the Democrats right now 814 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: is unlike anything buck that I can remember from a 815 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 3: major political party that is self inflicted. It's not as 816 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 3: if you know, somebody has suddenly created a brand new 817 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 3: story that nobody knew existed. We didn't just have a 818 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: war start. They have tripped all over themselves to a 819 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 3: degree that I think, past the lives of anybody listening 820 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 3: right now, people will be citing this story in the 821 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 3: same way you know, buck they do. Hey, remember when 822 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: television started and Nixon won the debate for everybody listening 823 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 3: on the radio, and Kennedy won for everybody watching, and 824 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 3: it fundamentally changed everything. And people still talk about that, 825 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 3: even though most of our listeners did not watch or 826 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 3: listen to that debate. I think, past the lives of 827 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 3: those who are listening today, people will be talking about 828 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 3: this debate in twenty twenty four as one of the 829 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 3: all time unbelievable American political experiences. 830 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: So yes, and here's and we still don't even know 831 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 2: how unbelievable because does it actually result in a president? Remember, 832 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 2: it wouldn't just be choosing not to run. And this 833 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: is a key difference. Biden's decision right now isn't I'm 834 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 2: going to pass the baton for the campaign to someone else. 835 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: That's obviously a part of it. It's he's not finishing 836 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: his term. Everybody he would he assuming that it is Harris, 837 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: which I've assumed all along that it would be if 838 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 2: not Biden, If he steps down, he's got to do 839 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: it so that rather, if he decides that he's not 840 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: going to try to make this happen, he wants Kamala 841 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: Harris to be the president running effectively as an well. 842 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 3: See that's interesting, so you think that, See that's such 843 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 3: an embarrassment to me for Biden not to finish his 844 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 3: term that I think the consolation prize if he steps 845 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 3: down is it stepping down from running and he will 846 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: serve out. I agree with you that he's not competent 847 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 3: to be able to do it, but I don't think 848 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: he would be willing to step out of the presidential 849 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 3: role and let her. 850 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Here's I mean, I would I understand 851 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 2: that that's that's that could be true. But the problem is, Clay, 852 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 2: if he's not competent to be the president in January, 853 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: he's not competent to be the president. Now you're a 854 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 2: hundred percent. That's why that story doesn't go away. If 855 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: he continues to be there will be bills he will sign, 856 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: there will be things that are done, there will be 857 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 2: executive orders, there'll be pardons, that's for damn sure. So 858 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: for him to do those things between now and January, 859 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: it's just indefensible. If he's saying he can't run, because remember, 860 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 2: he's not saying I can't run because you know, I 861 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: made this decision for my family for the better. You 862 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 2: know what. Whatever the reason he's being forced out, he's 863 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: being forced out would be if this happens that he 864 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 2: doesn't have the mental faculties to be president, and and 865 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 2: no one's going to buy you have the mental faculties now, 866 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 2: but you won't in January. Okay, that's an absurd argument. 867 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 2: So I think the problem for Biden, rather, the reason 868 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 2: that I think the Palace coup may fail still is 869 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: and you know they've decided to go for it. I 870 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 2: will say I'm a little surprised that they've because remember 871 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: Morning Joe, the day after the debate. The day after 872 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,959 Speaker 2: the debate, the decision from the apparatus was He's still 873 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 2: our guy. That was a rough night. He's still our guy. 874 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 2: Something has changed, there has been I don't know if 875 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 2: it's mostly the polls, the donors, the combination there and 876 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: the donors. I think you have it. So those things 877 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 2: together have made it so that now there's a real 878 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 2: challenge to Biden. So now the system isn't backing him up. 879 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. If you're Joe Biden, and I 880 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 2: think everyone can see that, Joe Biden somebody who has 881 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: thought about himself more than anything else or anyone else 882 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 2: his entire life. It's not about service to the country. 883 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: It's about Bidenism and what's best for Bidenism. If you're 884 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, you only got a few years left. Let's 885 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 2: be honest. I mean, guys, maybe maybe it's ten years. Maybe, 886 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 2: but he's only got a few years left. Realistically, you're 887 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: going to go out now a sure loser. The only 888 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna give up your shot to be a hero 889 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 2: and to hand the presidency. I'm thinking from the Biden 890 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 2: perspective now, like I'm trying to be Joe Biden, which 891 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 2: is pretty scary. 892 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 3: Your brain yorks too well to be him. But yes, 893 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 3: this is yes, this is an attempt. 894 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 2: That was very nice. It works too well to you. 895 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 2: Buzz Clay's a very charitable guy. So if you were 896 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 2: in that position, they would have to And I think 897 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 2: this is the discussion that's going on now. They would 898 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 2: have to entice Biden to step down with promises of 899 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 2: extremely good stuff. They wouldn't make this open by the way. 900 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: They wouldn't be but I mean companies Jill Jill, Biden, 901 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 2: the president of a university somewhere making a million dollars 902 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 2: a year to wake up and do nothing. You know, 903 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 2: that's the only way you convince Joe Biden. You have 904 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 2: to induce him, because otherwise he doesn't care. And people 905 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 2: keep saying, Oh, they're gonna, they're gonna wan he's the president. 906 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 2: They're not gonna do anything other than try to convince 907 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 2: him to make the decision. I think they can. 908 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 3: Offer him millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars 909 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 3: even to leave. I think those conversations are going on 910 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 3: right now. What I don't think buck is I think 911 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 3: Biden has too much pride to leave before his term 912 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: is out. And ultimately, I think that becomes a huge 913 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 3: albatross for Kamala Harris to your point, because if you're 914 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 3: not able to run, they'll try to say, hey, I 915 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 3: recognize that it's reckless for me to try to serve 916 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 3: to eighty six. 917 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 2: I have the ability to. 918 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 3: Serve until January of twenty twenty four, of twenty twenty five. 919 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 2: I'll do the best. I'll do this to the best 920 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 2: of my ability. Buck. 921 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 3: Imagine the shots of him moving his family possessions out 922 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 3: of the White House so Kamala Harris could move in. 923 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 3: It would be such an admission of failure that I 924 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 3: don't think Joe Biden's pride would allow him to do that. 925 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 3: So part of the negotiation is gonna be I ain't 926 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 3: leaving here. 927 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 2: You know, with you sir, throwing around your your your uh, 928 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 2: slanderous accusations of reading your tweets. You're you're you're reading 929 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: you're reading of these tweets you know that are out 930 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: of context. I'm just gonna say out of context. And 931 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: and there's misinformation here, could be Russian disinformation Clay is 932 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 2: reading I don't know, prove to me that it is not. 933 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 2: Are you now? Are you now actually slyly joining on 934 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: Buck Island? The little side island of it has to 935 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 2: be Kama. There is no have you given up on 936 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 2: Gavin and all the rest of this talk well making 937 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 2: it for. 938 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 3: So many months, I think that Kamala is going to 939 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 3: lose and I actually think the polling is going to 940 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 3: be worse for Kamala. 941 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 2: So I'm of two minds on so who's the nominee? 942 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 2: That there are three people. 943 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 3: That I think could potentially potentially beat uh uh Trump 944 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 3: in the Democrat Party Michelle Obama, who it appears is 945 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 3: still putting out hey, I don't want to do it. 946 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 3: Josh Pierro and Gretchen Whitmer. I'm not saying that they 947 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 3: can or even that they're likely. I think every other Democrat, 948 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 3: whether it's mayor Pete, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, they all lose. 949 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, your shuffle around on the stage here, buddy, 950 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: who is going to be the Democrat nominee? 951 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 3: The most likely one is Kamala right now, but I 952 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 3: still wonder. I still wonder whether the play is for 953 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 3: Biden to say I'm freeing all of my delegates. I'm 954 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 3: not endorsing anyone, and I'm gonna let the Democrats in 955 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 3: Chicago decide who the nominee is. 956 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 2: Chaos is the enemy of the Democrats at this point, 957 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: and chaos would be what they are usually they love chaos, 958 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 2: especially on the streets, but they the disarray this would 959 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: cause and going into a broker convention. People don't understand. 960 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 2: There's no conversation that anyone is going to have in 961 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: the corridors of power in the Democrat Party that convince 962 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,959 Speaker 2: all the day. There are different factions, right, We've seen 963 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 2: this with like the whole Israel Palestine issue for example. 964 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 2: There are different factions. You're gonna have people from all 965 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: over the Democrat Party who think that their guy or 966 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 2: gal should be the nominee. I know, and you know, 967 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 2: it's not like they're gonna walk in the convention like, oh, 968 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 2: we've all decided here's the perfect person. They're gonna have 969 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: a knockdown, drag out fight a month before early voting 970 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 2: starts basically give or take you know, six weeks or 971 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: something before heavy Yeah, dude, I just think they're gonna. 972 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 3: Kamala can't win, all right, And I'm actually curious we 973 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 3: come back, like, who would even take the VP role 974 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 3: for Kamala? 975 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 2: Have you seen a single poll that shows anyone other 976 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: than Biden doing better than Biden against Trump from a 977 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 2: reputable polster, like a real poll. No. 978 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 3: But the thing I would say in response to that 979 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 3: is nobody else has gotten to run hundreds of millions 980 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 3: of dollars in ads. The one thing I'll say is 981 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 3: they will raise hundreds of millions of dollars for whoever 982 00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 3: the candidate is. 983 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 2: Eating all that on fire if they switched the candie. 984 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 2: This is why, This is why I'm telling you there's 985 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 2: great deals on waterfront locks on Buck Island. I'm telling 986 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 2: you there's just going on. Why you're still saying they're 987 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 2: gonna stick with Biden. I mean, it's Biden or its Terris, 988 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: which is what I've said all along. It's I still 989 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 2: think it's Biden. But I mean today, I mean, that's 990 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 2: a ballsy call. I'm not gonna lie. That's that's that's 991 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: that's I'm you know, I'm running down the middle with 992 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 2: no blockers on this one. I'm just hoping to sort 993 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 2: of make it through the mailstream. We'll see what happens. 994 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in 995 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.