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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, September twenty eight, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: season sixteen, episode number thirty two. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of The Break. I'm Derek Eagleton. I'm live from

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Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studio. It's got Nick in here

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Speaker 1: with me. We've got Amber and Day from their homes

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna tell you all about this Cowboys game

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Speaker 1: and why they lost. On Sunday. The Cowboys lose to

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks thirty eight thirty one. And as we

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Speaker 1: do every Monday following a game, we're gonna start first

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Speaker 1: with letting these guys tell you what they think the

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Speaker 1: big picture of this game is coming out of that game. Nick,

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Speaker 1: you were at the stadium yesterday. We'll start with you

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Speaker 1: tell me what you thought was a big picture story

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Speaker 1: out of this game. Well, I mean they they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't match Russell Wilson. You know, they couldn't match him.

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Speaker 1: He was, you know, as magical as as advertised. And

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Cowboys they hung in there with

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Speaker 1: passing yards, but as I wrote, I just don't think

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Speaker 1: they were balanced. They couldn't run, they couldn't do what

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Speaker 1: So I just thought that, you know, I thought the

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Speaker 1: performance by Russell. All right, Amber Well, offensively, there are

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Speaker 1: things that obviously need to be improved, but right now

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's still hope there with some of

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Speaker 1: the things that the Cowboys have shown us. Now on

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Speaker 1: the defense side of the ball is where I'm very,

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Speaker 1: very concerned right now. I just don't know if how

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Speaker 1: much the Cowboys can actually do to turn things around.

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Speaker 1: With the players and the people that they currently have

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Speaker 1: and honestly, and I understand that it doesn't help that

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Speaker 1: the same time, I just don't understand and what all

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Speaker 1: and quit making the mistakes that they're currently make it.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I just think

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Speaker 1: Dave big picture story. You know what's really funny, Like

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this since the game ended, is like,

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Speaker 1: on the macro level, nothing about this game should be

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Speaker 1: a lot of people thought it would offensive shootout a

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Speaker 1: win by a touchdown, or less like that is very

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Speaker 1: normal and should be expected. But the way the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. You are surprised that the kick returner feels

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Speaker 1: boggling details that led to this result are just that,

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Speaker 1: But it looked like on that play the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: Thomas talk had, you know, after one week, because these

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Speaker 1: and they haven't done it. And that's I was going

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Speaker 1: everything about the end of the game. And that's just

429
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Speaker 1: a mass bummer because they were supposed to be so

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Speaker 1: good under John Fossil. Like I said, like I have

431
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Speaker 1: some optimism that it's more of an aberration than a trend.

432
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't good. It wasn't good at all. Amble

433
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Speaker 1: your level of concern. I'm with Dave on this one.

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Speaker 1: I am pretty concerned. But at the same time, I

435
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: think those are things that could be fixed along the season.

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Speaker 1: And I still think that Fossil with the experience that

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Speaker 1: he has, and I know we talked to great things

438
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Speaker 1: about him prior to well when he first got hired

439
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Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, and I still have hope in him

440
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: and that he's able to make his special teams better.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it just comes down to

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Speaker 1: player execution. I think some of those things that they've done,

443
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: the mistakes that they've made, it comes down to the

444
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Speaker 1: players not being too execute well enough on the field.

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Speaker 1: But I am I am concerning. I would say I'm

446
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: a little higher than day. I would give it at seven.

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Speaker 1: And right now, okay, all right, Nick, I'll concerned you

448
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: about special teams. I'm not really there yet. I'm not.

449
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Speaker 1: I mean five, I guess I mean just because brood

450
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Speaker 1: team plays, I mean I don't I don't put that

451
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Speaker 1: necessarily on Fossil, you know, making extra points and catching kickoffs.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what I m That's what I expect

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Speaker 1: the guys to do on Friday nights, you know, to

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Speaker 1: do that, and then Saturday nights of course, and then

455
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Speaker 1: Sunday in the NFL. Yeah, that's a given. So I

456
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: think he's got good schemes. I think he's got you know,

457
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Speaker 1: I think they got the players in the right spot.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that it's going to be in

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Speaker 1: every week thing. I'm not there yet. Yeah, you know,

460
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Speaker 1: if it keeps happening, that's fine, but it's not there yet.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that that really kind of disappointed me

462
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Speaker 1: more than anything else about the special teams. You had

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Speaker 1: the one block punt, which obviously that's a problem, but

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Speaker 1: then the second that that first one that actually hit

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Speaker 1: the upright, if you guys went back and watched it,

466
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Speaker 1: that one looked like it almost got blocked too. There

467
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Speaker 1: was a guy that got in and got his hand up,

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Speaker 1: and for a second there I thought it did get

469
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Speaker 1: get blocked. But I mean, they're having some issues along

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Speaker 1: that line. And I know on one of those plays,

471
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: I think it was the one where it was actually blocked.

472
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Connor Williams just got basically picked up and thrown.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I am really really not seeing

474
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Speaker 1: or I'm I'm not really right now, I'm not really

475
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Speaker 1: thinking that Connor Williams is playing at the level that

476
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: they need him to play and desperately need him to play,

477
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 1: because they have all the issues that they because they

478
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: have the guys that they have on the outside. I

479
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: actually think right now he's having I don't think you

480
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Speaker 1: could say that the tackles are playing worse than Connor Williams.

481
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: I think he's right there along with him, and you

482
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: might even want to throw Joe Looney in there on

483
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: some plays as well, because they're just not getting the

484
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: job done. Let's move on to that next moment that mattered.

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Speaker 1: This one came at about it was second and eleven

486
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Speaker 1: at the Seattle thirty seven Dallas had Dallas and Seattle

487
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: were tied at nine. DK Metcalf catches a sixty two

488
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Speaker 1: yard pass he's headed for the end zone. Trey Von

489
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Speaker 1: Diggs then comes behind him knocks the ball out of

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Speaker 1: his hand before he crosses a goal line, causing him

491
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Speaker 1: to touch back. And it leads me to the question

492
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Speaker 1: of how did you assess Trey Vaughn's play during that game,

493
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: because I think there were some up and some down moments.

494
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: And the bigger picture question there is do you think

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Speaker 1: that maybe Cowboys and having to put him out there

496
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: and put so much on him this early might risk

497
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: losing this guy because he's having to face some really

498
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Speaker 1: good receivers and he's taking a little bit of a

499
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Speaker 1: beating at times. No, Nick, No, because he's gotten beat

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Speaker 1: his whole life. He's gotta beat his whole life. When

501
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Speaker 1: you're a little brother, you get beat the entire you

502
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: get beat your whole life. And he keeps fighting back,

503
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: he keeps coming back. He goes to Alabama. He's an

504
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: All American. He's the second round pick. They knew the

505
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: moment they made him a starting cornerback, there was gonna

506
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Speaker 1: be ups and downs with playing him. He's got talent,

507
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Speaker 1: but he also is a rookie and he's gonna and

508
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Speaker 1: he's and he also thinks he's a better than he is,

509
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: and that's every cornerback in the league thinks that he

510
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: thinks he's better than that, which is gonna make some

511
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: big plays. It's also gonna give up some. But he's

512
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: hate to say this, but I think he's the best

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Speaker 1: you have right now. I mean, I don't know why

514
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: you hate to say it's true. Well, well I hate

515
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: to hear it him. Yeah, because that's the rookie. The

516
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: rookie who gives up big plays is the best you have.

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Speaker 1: It is, It absolutely is, Dave. You know that it's tough.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is another example of like, it sucks

519
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: not being around these guys, not being embedded the way

520
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: we normally are. Like I've I've never met Treyvon Diggs

521
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: in person, but I've just been impressed at his resilience

522
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: from a distance, because it doesn't seem like he came back.

523
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: You know, they picked on him throughout the first half.

524
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Speaker 1: He bounced back by forcing the fumble on metcalf. He

525
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: also had some nice plays and coverage in the second

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Speaker 1: half where he looked comfortable and confident. It looks from

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00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: the like he's got a short memory and a lot

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00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: of self confidence. Like, I don't get the impression from

529
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: a distance that he's overly bothered by this. I hope

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Speaker 1: that I'm right. I don't know that for sure, because

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Speaker 1: I'm probably never going to get a chance to talk

532
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: to him in person all season long, but I've been

533
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: impressed by the way he's been able to respond to this,

534
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: It's not fair the position that he's in. You know,

535
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: the secondary was going to be a problem regardless, but

536
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Speaker 1: the other two guys that are supposed to be starting

537
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: are on injured reserve, which obviously not only are they

538
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: not available, but they won't be available for at least

539
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Speaker 1: two or three more weeks. So I said this yesterday

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's gonna get worse for treyvon dis before

541
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: it gets better. This is going to keep happening. The

542
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: Browns are going to target him too, and I just

543
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: hope he keeps that attitude because I I like the

544
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: flashes that I'm seeing. The consistent product is not there

545
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: and might not be there all season, but I'm optimistic

546
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: that he's going to internalize it the right way and

547
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: not get too down on himself. Camber. I'm excited to

548
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: see what he becomes and the kind of player that

549
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: he turns into. What sucks right now is that he's

550
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: having to carry so much on his back and the

551
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: fact that you don't have much help of veteran guys

552
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I mean, it puts more weight on

553
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: him and it's I'm just the one thing, the one

554
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: thing that I like seeing is the fact that one

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00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: he works his butt off. You can tell that he

556
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: does not he puts in the work. And the two

557
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: is that, like this guy's mentioned, he doesn't give up.

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Speaker 1: And that played that Derek you brought up that you

559
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: were talking about. I mean, the guy was only several

560
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: steps away from the from getting inside the end zone,

561
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: and Dick did not give up. And the fact that

562
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't like, man, this guy just got away from me.

563
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: He kept going, went in there with his hand to

564
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: push up get the ball off the guy's hand. So

565
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: those traits, those kind of just fire to fight back.

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Speaker 1: It's something that you love to see. And I hope that,

567
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Speaker 1: like they said, I hope that the bat don't don't

568
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: upset the good and that it does and really get

569
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: to him throughout the season. But right now, I think

570
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: he has a lot of potential. All Right, we're gonna

571
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Speaker 1: take our final break when we come back. I have

572
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Speaker 1: a couple more moments from the game we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about. There was one series of place. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: but that's the thing. There were some moments in this

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Speaker 1: I already can see now that we're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: though to the second quarter. This was about eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: forty six and Wilson is sacked by Jordan Lewis, but

642
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: that is negated by an illegal contact penalty on Darryl Worley.

643
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: That situation would have gotten him off the field. Instead,

644
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: it's first and ten. It's second and nine at the

645
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Dallas twenty three. Later in that drive, Wilson is intercepted

646
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: by Darryl Worley at the Dallas one, but that is

647
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: negated by a pass in afference on Jordan Lewis. So basically,

648
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and Darryl Worley both took each other's great

649
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: plays away, negated them and uh and put the Seahawks

650
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: in better position. Then Seahawks have the ball first and

651
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: tenth the Dallas fifteen. You get pass an afference on

652
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr in the end zone while he's covering Greg Olsen.

653
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: Seattle scores from the scores a touchdown from the one

654
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: after that thoughts on the Dallas cornerbacks, and and here's

655
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: my big picture question. Do you think that what we're

656
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: seeing from the cornerbacks is more of the fact that

657
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: you're you're missing a Woozier and you're missing Brown or

658
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: do you think the same thing would be happening even

659
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: if those guys are Because let's be clear, Woozia hadn't

660
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: been great for a while, so you know, do you

661
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: think it's that they're missing guys or do you think

662
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: it's just this is what they have and this is

663
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: what they're gonna be for the foreseeable future. Let's start

664
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: first with you, Dave both both. I mean, yeah, like

665
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: it sucks when you don't have two of your preferred starters,

666
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: but I don't have any comf since it would have

667
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: been substantially better. I said this, I've been I've been

668
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: thinking about this all morning, knowing we were going to

669
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: talk about it. I mean, the secondary was the problem

670
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: with this team. Now you know, the pass rush hasn't

671
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: played amazing through the first three weeks. They were better yesterday.

672
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Still not incredible, although that's tough against Russell Wilson. I

673
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: get it, but the secondary was always going to be

674
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: a problem. I don't think it would have looked substantially

675
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: better with the starters out there. Honestly, the flags on

676
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: Lewis and Warley, I feel like we're pretty fair. The

677
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: one on Car was BS well. I mean, to some degree,

678
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: you gotta let a cornerback do something like The rules

679
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: are already slanted hard enough against them as it is,

680
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: so that sucked. But you know, I like there are

681
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: a lot of grabbing going on. Like overall, I didn't

682
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: have a problem with most of those calls, I feel like,

683
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, coverage is going to be a problem for

684
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for most of this season. If I had

685
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: to guess, it just kind of is what it is, agreed.

686
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought the calls were pretty fair except

687
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: for the Brandon Car did not like that because Olsen's

688
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. He's not trying to go anywhere. I mean,

689
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: he's not He's not stopping him from doing anything because

690
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: he wants to just sit back there and you know,

691
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: hug each other. I mean, I thought the Jalen Smith call,

692
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're getting into that later. I

693
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: thought the illegal contact play I thought that one was

694
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: pretty bad. But yeah, they're just not good enough to

695
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: cover those guys, you know. And but the thing about

696
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: it is all starts with Russell Wilson and the Cowboys

697
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: fear of trying to attack him because he sits back

698
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: there forever. So there was a ton of coverage, sacks,

699
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: coverage places they can't cover all day long. And so

700
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: it Russell Wilson is the reason why the Cowboys dbs

701
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: or other dbs are getting these penalties. Amber Well, it

702
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: sucks to hear, Like I'm still in shocked that Stephen

703
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: Jones said on the Fountain, what was it, Dave? They're

704
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: not in dissipating to bring any dbs this week, And

705
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm just amazed as to how can how can that

706
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: even come out of your mouth after watching these three

707
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: first weeks. I just don't understand, because regardless of the situation,

708
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: regardless of the players being injured on your secondary, the

709
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys were still struggling just in general. I mean, we've

710
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: been talking about the secondary all throughout the off season,

711
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: during training camp and then starting the season. So it's

712
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: still it's still very concerning at the fact that they're

713
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: still not looking into actually bringing someone back. They might

714
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: be maybe they are maybe Stephen Jones is kind of

715
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: trying to keep it a secret or something, But as

716
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: of right now, it's just regardless of the injuries, I

717
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: think they still would have struggled. Yeah, when you hear that,

718
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: it makes me start to question, Okay, so why would

719
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: they think very differently than all the rest of us

720
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: that they don't need to bring in any body. And

721
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: the only thing I can really come up with is

722
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: they believe, maybe they believe that the issues they're seeing

723
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: right now with the defense the busted coverages are not

724
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: necessarily a function as much of guys not being able

725
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: to do it. It's more a function of the guys

726
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: figuring out how to do it. This is a new scheme,

727
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, they're not picking up on all

728
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 1: the nuances of the new scheme. You think that maybe

729
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: that could be the issue and why the Cowboys are

730
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: at least saying we're gonna stay where we are, We're

731
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna hold true to that and we're gonna

732
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: give us a little more time and see where it goes. Nick, Yeah,

733
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: I think I mean that's got to be what it is.

734
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: It's it's it's and also the fact that they you know,

735
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: adding players and picking them up is just not what

736
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: it used to be. It's because because of the situation

737
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: we're in right now. Uh, it's it's harder to get

738
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: guys in the building, um and get them up to speed.

739
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna take seventy two hours, I guess for that

740
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: to happen. So um, you know, he almost in some

741
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: cases have to roll with this, But I don't know.

742
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: Dave mentioned three or four safeties that are out there,

743
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: and I think I try a couple of them, you know,

744
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: just just to see. I mean, just because you know

745
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: your your seasons. You can't just let guys run free

746
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: like that. That just that just can't happen. Let's real

747
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: quickly get to this one other play I think we

748
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: could try to get in here. It was the first

749
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: play to open the third quarter. It was a series

750
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: there and Jaron Reid beats Connor Williams to get a

751
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: sack on Dak. He also forces a fumble on that play.

752
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, in totality, Dak was

753
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: only sacked twice in this game. One time Connor Williams

754
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: again gives up that sack. Brandon Knight gives up, gives

755
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: up one later in the game. So from that standpoint,

756
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: how do you guys assess the play of the offensive

757
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: line overall throughout the game going up against the Seattle defense.

758
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: We'll start first with you, Amber. I mean, it wasn't

759
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: great the fact that you're having to shuffle guys around

760
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of the game, and then I know

761
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: there's still a question as to why exactly still came

762
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: out of the game. There was some news I think

763
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Jane's later mentioned that he had some I guess stomach

764
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: issues or something like that, and I don't know, But

765
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's always to struggle and the

766
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: fact that they were able to hold it together, honestly

767
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: credit to Dak Prescott. I think he did an amazing job,

768
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: regardless of them losing the game and him throwing those

769
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: two interceptions. I think the fact that he's playing the

770
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: way that he's playing right now and being able to

771
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: utilize his legs and be mobile and just get out

772
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: of there and make certain throws, he's done an amazing job.

773
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: So hopefully, with the fact that we know or think

774
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: that the two tackles are coming back pretty soon, I

775
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: would imagine that the offensive line starts getting better but

776
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: all in all, I think that they did okay, just okay.

777
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: It was not great by any means, but I hopefully

778
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: it'll get better soon, Dave. If I'm looking for a

779
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: silver lining coming out of this game, besides the play

780
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: of the quarterback, which I thought was outstanding even with

781
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: the misques, I'll take it. I'll take it ninety nine

782
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: times out of one hundred. But if I'm looking for

783
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: a silver lining, it's that the coaching staff was prepared

784
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: for this problem. You know, Zack Martin thanks to Nick

785
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Nick got to talk to both of them, Zack Martin

786
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: and Joe Looney. Both were kind of like, well, yeah,

787
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean they've been working us at these different positions,

788
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: so you like, nobody was surprised when this had to happen,

789
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: which that's funny to hear, because we were all shocked

790
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: because you know, we've talked about Zach plane tackle forever

791
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: and never seen it, and he just kicked out there

792
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: and played like a badass. I mean, I know, I

793
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: know if Seattle doesn't have any crazy good edge rushers,

794
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: but that's still really impressive, in my opinion. Further testament

795
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: to Zack Martin's ability. I thought Tyler beads held up

796
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: really well at center thought Joe looked fine at guard.

797
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: Like for them to do that, and the offense was

798
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: able to completely, you know, pick itself up. I think

799
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: Dak for through for two hundred and ninety two after halftime.

800
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: That's pretty remarkable because I think most of us would

801
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: agree that a situation like that might have sunk the

802
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: last coaching staff. I'm not sure that they would have

803
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: thought ahead in enough degrees to make those types of

804
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: adjustments mid game. So I think the coaching staff deserves

805
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for that. I'm not sure it

806
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: would have looked that nice if other people had been

807
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: making those decisions. Nicholas assumed for a second that Tyran

808
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: can't play this next game. Would you stick with that

809
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: that offensive line that they had there by the end

810
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: of the game, or do you go back to steal? No,

811
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going back to steal. But but I've got

812
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: some I've got some other issues said that really weird, Like, no, no,

813
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going for an undrafted guy from Texas Tech,

814
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: not for Zach Martin. I mean, but but again, I

815
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: hate to say this. You gotta have your five best linemy.

816
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to figure that out, and I

817
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: just don't know who that is at this point. I

818
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if the honest is better

819
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: than Looney at you know, is he better than Looney

820
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: or was that whole smove better? Um is Connor Williams?

821
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: Is he a problem? I mean he had a position now,

822
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean think about it. Brandon Knight, they

823
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: like him at guard, had to play him at tackle.

824
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they both need to flip for each other.

825
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, as I went back and watched

826
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: the game, I didn't really have a hard time with

827
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: what Brandon k I did yesterday. I think Brandon White,

828
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Knight to me, has played pretty decent football for

829
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: the position that he's been put in in the last

830
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: two weeks. I don't think he is the reason why

831
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: they are. They are struggling at times when they strip.

832
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: I think Tyran plays. I think I played Brandon Knight

833
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: at right right tackle. Yeah, I'm kind of moved Connor.

834
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean, move Zach Martin back and butt at center.

835
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. Again, I didn't think

836
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: Looney had his best game yesterday. Dave Amber, what do

837
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: you guys think about that would you would you guys

838
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: change it up or kids stickle what they had by

839
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: the end of the game. I was gonna ask, well, good,

840
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: so go ahead, a g I was just gonna ask,

841
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: where would you prefer to have your your weakest point guard?

842
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: That depends on if that depends to me on if

843
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: Tyring is back, If Tyrant is back, I think I

844
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: would prefer it to be at left guard. If Tyring

845
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: is not back, I think I prefer it to maybe

846
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: be at right tackle, right tackle. Yeah, you see Deck

847
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: sees what it's coming right at, and plus you can

848
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: chip and you have Zach Martin right right and you

849
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: got Zick. Yeah, that's a good question. I was gonna say,

850
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: I think that's how I would look at this whole thing. Sorry, Dave,

851
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: You're fine, because I think it's a really good point. Yeah,

852
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: that was just what I was gonna say. It's that's

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Speaker 1: how I would look at it. Where would you prefer

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Speaker 1: to have your weakest point and then based on that,

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Speaker 1: rearrange or try to rea arrange the offensive line and

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Speaker 1: try to figure out where you want your best guys

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Speaker 1: to be depending on what you think works best. For

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Speaker 1: Doc Prescott, that's a good point. You know, if we

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Speaker 1: can assume that, go ahead, Dave kill. So, if we

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Speaker 1: can assume that Tyrant's back, it does make me wonder.

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Speaker 1: Like I said this last night too, is like if

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Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, and I know they're not, but if they are,

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Speaker 1: it's an impressive amount of depth and versatility, like they've

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Speaker 1: got you know, they've got like five guys that can

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Speaker 1: play two or three positions. If Tyrant's back, I agree

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Speaker 1: that I would play Brandon Knight on the right side,

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Speaker 1: But that makes me wonder like you could do some

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Speaker 1: more experimenting. You could play Joe Looney at left guard

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Speaker 1: and play Tyler Biadash at center and move back to

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Speaker 1: Zach back to right guard, or potentially maybe maybe you

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Speaker 1: play Brandon Knight at left guard and play Zach at

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Speaker 1: right tackle. I don't freaking know, Like you could do

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Um Tyron's back, it opens you up.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad about them experimenting, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: I'd tell you what's sad, it's that Connor McGovern's just

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Speaker 1: isn't in this equation at all, Like they had a

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Speaker 1: second round grade on him. True, Yeah, that's that's disheartening.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, that's a really good point. But Lyell

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Speaker 1: is supposed to be back this week, and I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be But I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: at whatever point they have both of their tackles back,

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Speaker 1: I would play around a little bit with the center

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Speaker 1: and the left guard position. I would maybe look at

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Speaker 1: some other options. Do I maybe want Looney over there?

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Speaker 1: Would be honest in the middle. Do I maybe want

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Speaker 1: to see if Connor McGovern can can step in there

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Speaker 1: and maybe play left guard? Like, I really think that

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Speaker 1: that's going to become the weakness of this offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And we saw it yesterday. We saw there were moments

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Speaker 1: when that that middle of the line was getting pushed around,

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Speaker 1: and they were getting pushed around to the point where

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Speaker 1: it was affecting the play that was on the outside. Like,

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00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: and that's the problem, Like, you got to be able

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Speaker 1: to at least hold a point of attack, Like you

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Speaker 1: gotta be able to at least stand up and not

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Speaker 1: get thrown back and push back into the running back

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Speaker 1: who's trying to get to the outside. Right, I want

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Speaker 1: to know why they didn't sign Ron Leary. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was money or he wasn't ready, or

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Speaker 1: because they are hurting inside they can't. They don't run

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Speaker 1: the ball, they can't run it. They're leaving it all

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Speaker 1: for Dak to do everything, and it's it's too much.

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Speaker 1: Your your quarterback should not be throwing the ball fifty

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Speaker 1: seven times. It's not a recipe to win games. Ye

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, appreciate you guys. You're going us. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna back tomorrow. We're gonna talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about this game, and we'll start doing some big picture

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Speaker 1: looking at where the Cowboys are at this point through

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Speaker 1: three games until then. For Nick Even, Dave helm and

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Speaker 1: Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagleton. This has been The

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