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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, everybody. We have an absolutely jam packed show today.

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Speaker 1: I told you guys, coming into this playoff run, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be one of the best playoff

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Speaker 1: runs in the history of the NBA because of the

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Speaker 1: incredible amount of talent that we have in the league

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Speaker 1: and the way that the matchups worked out, and it

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Speaker 1: was something that I was very, very very excited for,

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Speaker 1: and as a result, when I was trying to put

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Speaker 1: all my thoughts together, I was like, there's just way

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Speaker 1: too much to get into here, and so I think

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Speaker 1: the best way for us to do this tonight is

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Speaker 1: to do it a little differently than we have Ben.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna bring my guy Carson on and we are

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Speaker 1: going to get into the ten biggest questions of the night.

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Speaker 1: I think that will give us our best opportunity to

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Speaker 1: touch all of our basis. So let's get Carson on

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get right into it. Yeah. Well, Jason,

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Speaker 1: I think that the appropriate running point here is with

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Speaker 1: what I think has been maybe the most anticipated and

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Speaker 1: a really interesting first round series, and that is Net Celtics.

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Speaker 1: Celtics went up two oh Nets, had a lead going

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Speaker 1: into the fourth, ended up squandering at score just seventeen

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Speaker 1: in that quarter, and Katie had a really rough shooting

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Speaker 1: night overall four of seventeen from the field, also had

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Speaker 1: six turnovers. Still managed twenty seven points because the guy

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Speaker 1: made eighteen free throws. But that's executive subpar shooting performances

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Speaker 1: from him. He's under in the series. So how much

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Speaker 1: is he to blame for tonight's loss? For Brooklyn, That's

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Speaker 1: shutting Katie down and shutting Kyrie down and making other

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Speaker 1: guys make decisions. To Katie's credit, all over the place

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Speaker 1: over the last two days and all the talking head

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Speaker 1: amazing bounce back game too. You heard talk of him

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Speaker 1: But from two thousand twelve to two thousand twenty, no

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Speaker 1: you know, ambitious, offensive minded coach that loves to run

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Speaker 1: sweet motion offense and and put him in a room

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving. Those guys are gonna shrug

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Speaker 1: that dude out of the room, you know, like that,

433
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Speaker 1: That's just not a realistic approach. Like I feel like

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Speaker 1: Nash's job is more to manage personalities, man his late

435
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: game situations like tie mouths, and and drawing up specific

436
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: sets for very specific scenarios at the end of game

437
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: and then the and then the defensive end of the floor.

438
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Speaker 1: And I'll give you guys a very quick example like

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Speaker 1: like and this is this is an example of a

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Speaker 1: set that works really well in the postseason. I take

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Speaker 1: advantage of where the defense is throwing extra attention. In

442
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: Game one, in the second to last possession email, Udoka

443
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: knew that the Nets were overplaying Tatum and doubling him

444
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: on every single screen, so they had Tatum run way

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00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: off to the left wing. We've talked about this play

446
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Speaker 1: a few times on the show. The Tatum run way

447
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: off to the left side of the wing, and then

448
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: they had Al Horford come up and set his screen

449
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: for him, an off ball screen, and Nick Klaxton and

450
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant both followed him up there, and as a result,

451
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: the paint was completely vacated and Jalen Brown had an

452
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: easy attack to the basket and only Gore and Dragics

453
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: was there on the back line. Those are the kinds

454
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Speaker 1: of things that the nets have to figure out. Now.

455
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Speaker 1: I would do stuff like have Katie and Kyrie run

456
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: off ball action, out of sight, out of mind, and

457
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: have opportunities for Seth Curry and Patty Mills to go

458
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: to work, or Gore and drag just to go to work.

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Speaker 1: Do something to try to punish the Celtics for their

460
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: overaggressive defense. But it's this is an impossible job, guys.

461
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: It is. It is a really, really difficult job. With

462
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: these brute force offensive teams that rely on superstars. The

463
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: coaches are more like figureheads than they are actually strategists,

464
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like a guy like Nick

465
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: Nurse has a much bigger role within the Raptors and

466
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Speaker 1: their success than a guy like Steve Nash does for

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Speaker 1: for this Brooklyn team. Yeah, I think that's unequivocally. I

468
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: just do think the interesting part is when you highlight

469
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Speaker 1: his fundamental responsibilities, I just don't know that he's done

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Speaker 1: those things particularly well. Like personality management. You know, is

471
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: players actively hated each other, like James Harden stuff. You know, Kyrie,

472
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Speaker 1: he didn't play a majority of the games this year

473
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Speaker 1: and obviously is constantly demonstrating some level of discontent. So

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Speaker 1: I think that you're absolutely right, and that it is

475
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: ultimately kind of a figurehead position, and it's just about

476
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Speaker 1: like do the guys like him? Are they comfortable with

477
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Speaker 1: him there? And as long as that remains the case

478
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: with Katie and Kyrie, Steve Nash will be in Brooklyn.

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00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's like an actively limiting factor.

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Speaker 1: I just kind of shrug, and I'm not really he

481
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have the power to do anything either. That's the issue,

482
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Speaker 1: Like he's not great positive, he doesn't have the power

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00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: over the players. Yeah, it's a very very strange dynamic.

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean, you make a fair point when

485
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Speaker 1: you say it kind of is an impossible job. It's

486
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Speaker 1: very strange and a very strange first head coaching job too. Okay,

487
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Speaker 1: So here we are now with the nets down to oh,

488
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: is there any chance they come back in this series?

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Speaker 1: There's a chance, but I'm off them. I picked the

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00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: nets and seven I'm off that pick. I think Boston's

491
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: gonna win this series, probably in five games, and I

492
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Speaker 1: think Boston's gonna win the championship. I'm all in. I'm

493
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: all in on Boston. This is the best defensive team

494
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Speaker 1: I have ever seen. I think they're better than the

495
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: Toronto defensive team two thousand nine because that defensive team

496
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: relied a little bit too much on small guards guys

497
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Speaker 1: like Kyle Lowry and Fred Van vliet Um. Obviously, I think,

498
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: you know, Kawhi Leonard is the better defensive player than

499
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Speaker 1: anybody on either of those two teams. But just in general,

500
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: this is the best defensive team I've ever seen. And

501
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: you're seeing, like some of the postseason reps that all

502
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: of these guys have had in Boston over the years,

503
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: it's showing in their confidence. Like Jalen Brown has been

504
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: amazing in these two games, and when you look at

505
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Speaker 1: the predicament that Boston was in tonight in that fourth quarter,

506
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Speaker 1: especially when when Brooklyn took that lead there, uh in

507
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: that game, Like there's a ton of pressure there, and

508
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons for Jalen Brown in his

509
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: specific role to get discouraged and to shrink from that moment.

510
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: And he like grabbed that game and just took it home.

511
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: And and even Jayson Tatum made a bunch of huge

512
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Speaker 1: plays at the end of the game. He had an

513
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Speaker 1: awesome little like push shot in the lane, and he

514
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: had a a jab step three that he made at

515
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Speaker 1: the end of the shot clock there at the end. Like,

516
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: these guys are not scared of these moments. They've gone

517
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: toe to toe with Lebron freaking James in a Game

518
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Speaker 1: seven of the Conference finals when they were rookies. They

519
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: made it to the conference finals in the bubble. These

520
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: these guys have played in big game after big game.

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Speaker 1: I I'm I would have picked Phoenix to win the title.

522
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 1: But I'm terrified of this brand. This Devin Booker hamstring injury.

523
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: I think this this hamstring thing is super finicky. Hamstrings

524
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: are super super easy to re injure. This Pelicans team

525
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: is way better than a traditional eight seed, and then

526
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Speaker 1: they got to go through Luca in the next round.

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Speaker 1: I'm not counting the Sun's out. Let me be clear there,

528
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Speaker 1: but I'm changing my pick to win the title. I

529
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Speaker 1: think we're gonna talk a little bit more about this later,

530
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Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't think any either of

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Speaker 1: the Bucks or the Bulls could beat this Boston team.

532
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: This Boston team has like two thousand four Pistons energy

533
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: mixed with like a player that is ascending into flat

534
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: out superstardom and Jayson Tatum and a bunch of guy

535
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: eyes that aren't scared and that played their roles perfectly.

536
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: This Celtics team, I think is the best team in

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00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: the NBA, and I think they're gonna win the title

538
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: this year. That's obviously super high praise, and I will say,

539
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: I mean, they continue to look exceptional, and I thought

540
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: they would be more impacted by the Robert Williams loss

541
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: and just his vertical spacing offensively, having that dynamic interior athlete,

542
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: how efficient he was, and then obviously defensively such an

543
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: exceptional ring protector. But defensively they haven't lost a step.

544
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: They just keep chugging along. So are you just like

545
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: completely moved on from that? And like, how impressive is

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00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: that that here they are having lost a guy who

547
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: felt really important what they were doing for so much

548
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: of the year, and you're saying they're your title favorite.

549
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: He still is important. It's the and this is a

550
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Speaker 1: credit to Al Horford. Like Al Horford has been unfreaking

551
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: believable in these first two games, in huge minutes, and

552
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: so like the silver lining for Horford is the way

553
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: you got to look at it if you're him, is

554
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: like Rob's coming and when he gets here, I'll be

555
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: able to play fewer minutes and devote my energy in

556
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of these shorter bursts. Right, But he

557
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: is emptying the freaking tank for this series, and it's

558
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and it's completely making up for the Robert Williams injury

559
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: at this point. His perimeter shooting has been a dynamic

560
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: component of the way that it's a it's punishing Brooklyn

561
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: for helping his He's got like some of the best

562
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: hands defensively in in help defense that you'll ever see.

563
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't even have to reach up to contest.

564
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: He's just really good at poking the ball free from

565
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: guys down low. Al Horford has been the reason that

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Speaker 1: Rob Williams's loss is not hurt the Celtics yet. And

567
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: and and they he played some three on three today

568
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: and he's been progressing well. They're not even counting him

569
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: out necessarily in this series, although I doubt they'll play

570
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: him now that I think they're going to control Brooklyn.

571
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: But like that that I I I put a I

572
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: put the vast majority of that credit on Al Horford.

573
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: He's just been an absolute monster. But yeah, I I've

574
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: seen enough Like I. You gotta you gotta pay attention

575
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: to what's in front of your eyes. Kevin Durant did not.

576
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant didn't shrink from the moment tonight. Katie was

577
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: ready for that game. Katie was ready to put his

578
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: imprint on that game. What happened was the Celtics would

579
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: not allow it to happen. How many defenses in NBA

580
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: history can do that. We're talking, you know, two thousand

581
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Speaker 1: four Pistons on Shack and Kobe. We're talking you know,

582
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen Raptors on Steph Curry. But they're just

583
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: there aren't that many examples in NBA history of a

584
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: of a defense completely disrupting a star like this, and

585
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: it's a five man effort. And it's not criticism with

586
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Like I said, I think he's the best

587
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: player in the world. Boston has just shut his ass down,

588
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: and it is it is. It is just you have

589
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: to pay attention to what your eyes are seeing. What

590
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: we're seeing right now is all time defensive greatness and

591
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: and that that carries teams in the playoffs. And I'm

592
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: concerned Boston's half court offense a little bit, but like

593
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: I keep saying, they have margin for error, and their

594
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: margin for error is in their defense. And if Jalen

595
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Brown is gonna play like this, and if Jayson Tatum

596
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: is gonna keep playing like this, it doesn't matter. They're

597
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: just gonna beat everybody. Yeah, I mean, I think you

598
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: said that. The Celtics have undeniably been extremely impressive, and

599
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: there's been another team out East that has looked pretty

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00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: darn good and took a three oh advantage today definitely

601
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: the tightest game of the series thus far by a lot,

602
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: but the Sixers snuck out with one in Toronto on

603
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: a really remarkable, not quite buzzer beater. I think there

604
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: was point seven seconds left, but turnaround three from Joel

605
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Embiid off an inbound. He finished the day with thirty three.

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00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: How the hell did he get that shot off? Well,

607
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: the way that he got the shot off, specifically was

608
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: the fact that Joe Limbiad is so good at drawing

609
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: fouls that guys are paranoid to reach in or to

610
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: contest jump shots. And so there's kind of like a

611
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: philosophy with him bid you just let him shoot and

612
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: you hope for the best. And he hasn't been the

613
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: most efficient jump shooter in the world overall, like his

614
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: field goal percentages below, which is really unusual for a

615
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: for a center like him, right, But as a result,

616
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: like that little freedom that he gets from guys being

617
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: paranoid about fouling him, he can turn around and shoot.

618
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: But at that in combination with his size is what

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00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: allowed him to get the shot off. I gotta I

620
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: gotta say that bit of shot making from Joel Embiid,

621
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: just in general down the stretch of that game was

622
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: was one of those like career highlight type of moments,

623
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: Like when we look back at Lebron's career and you

624
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: think about the two thousand seven Pistons game. And you

625
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: think about the two thousand nine Orlando Magic game, the

626
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve Boston Celtics game, the two thousand thirteen

627
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs game. Got there's a whole lot of

628
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: those games, but you think about those games that are

629
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: like these iconic NBA history moments that define Lebron's aga.

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00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: See and and Joe Olmpi doesn't have a lot of

631
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: those games yet, and this was his first one. And

632
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at what happened down the

633
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: stretch of that game, they were getting absolutely nothing out

634
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: of James hard and he got a weird I mean

635
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: down the stretch. At least he had an okay game

636
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: over the course of the game, but he, James Harden,

637
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: wasn't giving you anything offensively other than a BS foul

638
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: call down the stretch. At the baseline, you weren't getting

639
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: a ton out of Tyres Maxie. You weren't getting a

640
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: ton at Georgia. Nie wasn't hitting his shots down the stretch.

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00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm specifically talking about crunch time, and you had a

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00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: little bit out of Tyres Maxie. Like Tyres Maxie had

643
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: a really nice play at the end of regulation where

644
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: he attacked the close out out of the right corner

645
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: and hit a one der but pull up along the

646
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: baseline that was massive. He had two huge shots and

647
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: ot at a a little reverse layup right at the

648
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: start of ot where he beat Franan lead to the

649
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: basket with just a blur of speed. And then he

650
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: had another play later in overtime where he made a

651
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: really really nice floater off the glass. But for the

652
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: most part, the Sixers weren't getting anything out of anybody

653
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: else offensively, and when Embiid was close to the basket,

654
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: just like Nick Nurse has been doing all series, the

655
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Raptors were throwing the kitchen sink at him and he

656
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: was struggling a little bit with that, at least within

657
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: the traffic. And the game really came down to rescue shots,

658
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: shots at the end of the shot clock that save

659
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: your team. And it started with a couple of of

660
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: little jack step pull ups that he made in the

661
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: late fourth quarter. Then there was like that late shot

662
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: clock towards the end of the fourth quarter. He had

663
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: a late shot clock three along the left wing where

664
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: he was like fading away shot clock winding down, just

665
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: just chucked it up while falling backwards and just hit

666
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: nothing but the bottom of the net. And then you

667
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: get into the play right before the end of regulation

668
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: as the buzzer was sounding, same spot on the floor,

669
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: gets a great look and he left it just short.

670
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: It was dead on straight when it hit the rim.

671
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I immediately started thinking about the game. Seven Kauai shot

672
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: that was dead on straight. Eight hit the front of

673
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: the rim, went right up in the air and bounced

674
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: on the rim a bunch of times and went in.

675
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, is this the one? And it

676
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: just ended up landing short. But Joel embiid With had

677
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: sent the game to ot effectively with three rescue shots

678
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: in regulation, and then you go into the fourth quarter

679
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: or excuse me and O T He had a move

680
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: on O g N and Obi at the high post

681
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: that was amazing. It literally looked like Kyrie Irving. He

682
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: did like a hard dribble pivot spin, like didn't even

683
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: get his body all the way turned around before he

684
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: shot it and put it in the net. I I

685
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: tweeted it out the clip because I was like, what

686
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: the hell are we even watching here? I just watched

687
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: like a damn near three hundred pounds seven foot tall

688
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: center hit a kyrie irving move in the middle of

689
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the lane over one of the best wing defenders that

690
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: we have in the league at O Gann and Abe.

691
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the game, once again,

692
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: you're drawing up a time out, there's two seconds left

693
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: and you just got a seven foot guy on the

694
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: floor that everyone's scared the foul that that he can

695
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: turn around and shoot off the wing and he and

696
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: he knocked it down and what a cool moment and

697
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: the first iconic moment of Joel Embiat's playoff career. Now

698
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen they that the Sixers still

699
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: have some issues overall. You know, I I was wrong

700
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: about this series, and I was actually before the game

701
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: even went to O T I was texting the you guys,

702
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: the producers. I was like, I was like, I'm off

703
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: this this Raptors team, and there were a couple of

704
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: things that I highly underestimated. You know, my whole theory

705
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: for this series and the Raptors having a chance had

706
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that they could get stops

707
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: and get out in transition. Because in the half court

708
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: we all knew their offense would really struggle, and you

709
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: saw their half court offense was disastrously bad down the

710
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: stretch of that game at home, and honestly, there they

711
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: had some rescue shots on their end that carried them

712
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: when their offense fell apart. Gary Trent hit some tough

713
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: ones you had. I think O g An and Obie

714
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: hit a huge three in the left corner. There were

715
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of like big time shots that guys hit

716
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: when really they weren't able to get anything. And I

717
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: think the loss of Scottie Barnes ended up being really

718
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: really hurtful for this specific Raptors team because the problem

719
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: was was when when Philly switched Joel Embiid onto Pascal Siakum,

720
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: and Pascal Siakum lost confidence in his jump shot. When

721
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: those two things happened, and then Pascal suddenly realized that

722
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: he couldn't drive by Mbad because Embiad was giving him

723
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: enough space that he could compensate for the lack of

724
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: speed and stay in front of him and turn Pascal

725
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: into a jump shooter. And then simultaneously Fred van Lee

726
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: completely fell apart with his confidence in his jump shot.

727
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: Everything fell apart offensively, and what Scotty Barnes has been

728
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: for the Raptors all season has been just that other

729
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: release valve, because he's got a really good hook shot

730
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: in the lane, and he's got a good handle, and

731
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: he's huge, and so they would just go to him,

732
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: and you can't if you're guarding Pascal Siakum would Joel embiid.

733
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: Then that means you don't have another big body, another

734
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: big enough body to put on Scotty Barnes, and so

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00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: Scotty Barnes being out of the series really hurt them.

736
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: I just agreed with some of the strategy things that

737
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: that Nick Nurse did, but at the end of the day,

738
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: I was just flat out wrong. The Sixers team was

739
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: better than I expected them to be, even even Joel

740
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Embide within the chaos of the way Toronto was swarming him.

741
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: He had thirty three and thirteen tonight on the road

742
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: in Toronto because his shot making was so magnificent that

743
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: the crazy defense that Toronto was throwing his way just

744
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: simply didn't matter. So that that's a credit to him.

745
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: And like I think one of the interesting kind of

746
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: subplots moving forward for Philly is Tyrese Maxi. He's just

747
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: better than James Harden right now, James Harden's playmaking is

748
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: is his biggest asset that he brings to this team.

749
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: He's still very important though when push comes to shove,

750
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: Tyres Maxie can create his own shot with his speed

751
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: getting to the rim and James Harden just can't right now.

752
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: And so, but Tyres Maxie has been awesome. You when

753
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about the the hierarchy of this series and

754
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: your ranking players, if you wanted Toronto to win, the

755
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: way it had to go was it had to be

756
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: and Beat is the best player in the series, and

757
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: then either Sam or Van Vleet is the second best

758
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: player in the series. And then you know James Harden

759
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: somewhere down like three or four, and then guys like

760
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes and the other one of the Siam van

761
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Vleet trio or duo is in there somewhere, and then

762
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: you get to a Tyrese Maxie. But no, Tyrese Maxie

763
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: has been hands down the second best player in the series,

764
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: and that that little influx of talent changed the dynamic

765
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: of the series. And so yeah, like I I it'll

766
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how it it amounts to them

767
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: as the playoff run continues. But that I was flat

768
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: out wrong about this series. Philly is better than I

769
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: thought they were, and they took it to Toronto and

770
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: that was a really, really impressive win on the road there.

771
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: So are you buying the Sixers as legit contenders? Then

772
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: I know the thing is is as good as as

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00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: good as they've looked in this matchup, and they have

774
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: a very good draw moving award right, because they're gonna

775
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: end up catching Miami in the next round, and I

776
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: think Miami is a pretty flawed half court offense team

777
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: as well. That will be a really interesting dynamic. They're

778
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: they're better than Toronto, but they have some similar half

779
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 1: court offense issues that have played them all year, even

780
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: in the regular season. They're just they're much better defensive team,

781
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: and they'll be able to throw some defensive things that

782
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: m Beat and Hardened that Toronto could not, particularly being

783
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: at a bio and the dynamic that he brings as

784
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: a guy that might be able to guard Joel em

785
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: Beat in single coverage. So that's like an interesting dynamic there.

786
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: But they haven't they have an easy path. They're gonna

787
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: probably make it to the conference finals. But like I

788
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: was talking about earlier, I still think Boston is the

789
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: best team in the league. Look at look at that

790
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: swarming defense that Boston used tonight. That's that's gonna have

791
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of success against Philly. Now, the one dynamic

792
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: that Philly brings that will be interesting is like I

793
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: was talking about with Seth Curry and with Patty Mills,

794
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: when you're a crazy aggressive defense, it's your off ball

795
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: players that bring more advantage, right, and Tobias Harris and

796
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: Tyrese max He certainly bring that to the table. The

797
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: different dynamic is though, uh, Boston absolutely had to double

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00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: kd and absolutely had to double Kyrie because they couldn't

799
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: guard those guys in single coverage. They won't have to

800
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: double James Harden, they won't have to double Tyres Maxie,

801
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: so they'll only have to double Joel m b which

802
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: I think will free them up to play a little

803
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: bit more traditional defense, and in that regard, I think

804
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: they'll have more success. So I'd still pick Boston. Philly

805
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: definitely has more of a puncher's chance than I originally expected,

806
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: and that was just me and probably, and I'll be

807
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: honest with you, it's a little bit of bias there.

808
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: I hate this freaking team, man, I hate the way

809
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: they play. I hate the foul grifting. It was a

810
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: pleasure to watch Joel Embiad play real basketball down the

811
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: stretch of that game. That that what, that's what. That's

812
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: when I'm a Joe elaim bead fan is when he's

813
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: just making shots like a basketball player instead of doing

814
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: the jankie stuff. But so by bias, I think got

815
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: in the way a little bit there, But I'm still

816
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: gone with Boston. You mentioned how great Maxi has been,

817
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: and I mean, obviously this series he's more than thirty

818
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: a game, which is unsustainable production, but post All Star

819
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: Break he was nineteen a game on better than sixtentury shooting,

820
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: really a remarkable scoring skill set overall. So like, if

821
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: he continues to play at this level, does that raise

822
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: your confidence in Philly or beyond that, any one thing

823
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: that you can think of that they could really do

824
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: or prove to you where you would maybe elevate them

825
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: to that legitimate contender status. Oh that's a really good question, Carson.

826
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: In order to elevate them to that status, I think

827
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: I would have to see a little bit more out

828
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: of James Harden because the issue with Tyrese Maxie is

829
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: he's faster than everybody on Toronto right now, and Toronto

830
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: is sloppy in a bunch of different ways because they're young, right,

831
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: and they're gonna run in to some teams like Boston

832
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: and mill Water Boston in Miami that are more grown

833
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: up type of basketball teams. And with that specific predicament,

834
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: I don't think I think it's gonna I think they're

835
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna need James Harden to to be a better perimeter

836
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: player than he has been. I don't know, man, That's

837
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: that's a really good question. I think. I think if

838
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: Joel embiad is gonna make jump shots like this too,

839
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: that's another wrinkle, kind of like Anthony Davis and the

840
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: bubble with the Lakers, Anthony Davis suddenly just transitioning into

841
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: a shot maker because going into that bubble, the fear

842
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: was the Lakers half court offense, same type of problem, right,

843
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: And since James Harden came to Philly, their offense has

844
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: not been great overall, and so it's kind of a

845
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: similar type of concern. But then there was just this

846
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: random ascendence of of Anthony Davis into a Kevin Durant

847
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: esque high post jump shooter and it kind of became

848
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: like a release vout for the Lakers, right, And so

849
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: if that happens with Joel Embiad and he shoot perimeter

850
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: jump shots like this, that could be another wrinkle that

851
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: elevates Philly to that status. But I don't know, man, Boston.

852
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Boston looks like a once in a generation type of

853
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: of mix of basketball ability that I think is such

854
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: a bad matchup for everybody around the league that I

855
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I I I haven't seen anything

856
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: like when I saw from Boston tonight, and I've been

857
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: watching a lot of basketball over the last couple of decades,

858
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: So I I I don't know. I don't know that

859
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: Philly is capable of getting to that level. All right,

860
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: Let's touch on another team that has certainly been thrown

861
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: into that tier of contenders out East, and you have

862
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: harped on some of their issues, particularly defensively throughout the

863
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: regular season, and that's the Milwaukee Bucks, who I think

864
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people expected to really cruise against the

865
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: Bulls team that struggled for so much of the second

866
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: half of the year. Game one was ugly. They dropped

867
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: game to one, one ten and just to pour some

868
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: salt in the wound. Coach Bud says that Chris Middleton,

869
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: he has been told, has an mc ile sprain and

870
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: they will get an m R I tomorrow row. So

871
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: given all that context, are the Bucks in trouble? Jason, Yes,

872
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: they were in trouble before that injury. I saw Chris

873
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: Middleton go off to the locker room, and I was

874
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: worried about what specifically had happened. But that's extremely concerning

875
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: because they're having problems on both ends with him. You know,

876
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: there's an old standing NBA rule. In that rule is

877
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: if you're not a top ten defense by defensive ratings

878
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: so points allowed per one possessions, you don't win the

879
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: title unless you have an absolutely overwhelming talent advantage. So

880
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: we're talking Katie Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Draymond Green, andre

881
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: A Guadala or Prime Shaquille O'Neil and Prime Kobe Bryant

882
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: or Achimu la Juan and Clyde Drexler like at the

883
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: top of their games with m J out of the

884
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 1: league like they're there, there are is there are very

885
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: rare circumstances where you can be an exception to that rule.

886
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: But generally speaking, that's the that's the that's the rule.

887
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: If you don't crack the top ten and defensive rating

888
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: in the regular season, you don't win the title, because

889
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: that that defensive rating in the regular season, to me,

890
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: is the best indicator of your commitment to establishing defensive habits.

891
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: And when you're back is against the wall when things

892
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: when the ship starts to hit the fan, you lean

893
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: back on your habits. Your identity as a basketball team

894
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: is the one thing you can rely on when everything

895
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: goes south. And so if you don't have that defensive

896
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: set of habits established, you're gonna find yourself with your

897
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: back against the wall and nothing to fall back on.

898
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna They've been bad on both ends

899
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: of the floor. We'll talk about the offense here in

900
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: just a second, but their defense has not been good.

901
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: And it's jarring to watch that Boston defense in the

902
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: way that they disrupt everybody all over the floor, the

903
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: way they f i around in rotations, the way that

904
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: they don't rely on stupid vintage coverages like drop coverages

905
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: that Boston only runs the drop coverage with Daniel Tyson

906
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: on the floor because they don't want to have him

907
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: and switches against guys like Kyrie and Steff against guys

908
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: like Kyrie and Kevin Durant, Right, But they're doing they're

909
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: doing a ton of switching there. They they're packing the pay,

910
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: but they're rotating around on the back end. Then you

911
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: look at Milwaukee and it's a very stubborn traditional approach

912
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: to to offense, something that we've talked about incessantly over

913
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: the course of this year, or to defense. Excuse me,

914
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: they're packing the paint for the sake of giving away

915
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: those wide open jump shots. And so what happened all

916
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: freaking night tonight. It was a combination of zach Lavine

917
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: and Demarta Rosen getting to their spots and making shots. Carson,

918
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: We talked about this a lot after Game one of

919
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: this series. Demarta Rosen and zach Lavine and Nicolavusevich all

920
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: had absolute nightmare game ones as shot makers, absolute nightmare

921
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: game ones, and they were right there, a couple of

922
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: possessions away from winning that game. And they did it

923
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: with their defense, which we're talking about in a second,

924
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: but in this game, suddenly, with pretty much the same strategy,

925
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: they didn't even do as many pick and pops with

926
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: Nikolavusevitch as I wanted, and when they did, every time

927
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: they got a wide open shot, I simply don't understand

928
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: why they don't just do that incessantly to punish the

929
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Bucks for having a Lopez and and and Janice camp

930
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: around the basket. The one run that the Bucks went

931
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: on and this game was late third quarter, and it

932
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: was because they switched Janice onto Nikolavusevich and started running

933
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: a drop coverage with Janice under the basket, and he

934
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: was blocking everything, and when he was getting blocks, he

935
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: was getting out in transition. And so when teams play

936
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: into Milwaukee's defense's strengths, which is just driving into the

937
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: teeth of the defense for no reason, they have success.

938
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: But outside of that specific uh um situation, when they

939
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: have teams that successfully driving kick and hit shooters are

940
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: on the wing, and when they have guys that get

941
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: to their jump shots in the mid range, they have

942
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: a ton of success. And suddenly the Bucks can't get stops.

943
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: And so that takes me to the offensive end of

944
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: the four from Milwaukee, because this is the this is

945
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: the conundrum that has surrounded this team incessantly over the

946
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: course of the last few years. For whatever reason. It

947
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: worked out in last year's postseason run, in large part

948
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: because Chris Middleton was fantastic and Janice went extra nuclear

949
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: and their defense was better, so they weren't living in

950
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: the half court all the time. But they have consistently

951
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: struggled relative to some of the better teams in the

952
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: league at half court scoring because Chris Midleton, as good

953
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: of a three level score as he is, is not

954
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: a superstar. Because Drew Holiday, as good of a scoring

955
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: guard as he is, is not a superstar. And Jannice

956
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: for being the absolute superstar top tier on the same

957
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: level as Lebron and Kadi as he is, still not

958
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: a fantastic half court initiator, right, And so when they

959
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: get in those settings, they struggle. In Game one, they won,

960
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: but the dirty little secret there's the Bulls were missing

961
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of shots they normally make, and the reality

962
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: was is I think they only had ninety nine points

963
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: in that game, so they were struggling to score. And

964
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: He's of that again tonight. They Bucks could not get

965
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: stops because Chicago is getting everything they wanted on offense.

966
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: As a result, Chicago is consistently set on defense, with

967
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: exception of that run in the third quarter in Milwaukee

968
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: went on when they were getting out in transition, and

969
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: your honest was just putting his head down and go

970
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: into the rim every single time in transition. Outside of that,

971
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: they were stuck in the half court, and when they were,

972
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: they were struggling to create shots. And that's persistently going

973
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: to be an issue for them. I keep telling you

974
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: guys that my biggest thing that I watched with the

975
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: honest is his ability to playmate, his ability to drive

976
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: into the teeth of the defense and make passes consistently.

977
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Because I've never cared about his ability to knock down

978
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: a jump shot outside of maybe just getting some rest

979
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: in the middle of the game by settling for the

980
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: sake of saving your legs. But I've never cared about

981
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: that specific skill. I've always cared about just can he

982
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: make reads? Can you loosen up the defense by making passes?

983
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: And he's okay at that, He's okay, but he's not

984
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: good enough to be that perimeter that initie that that

985
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: you know half court surgeon, right, and that and that

986
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: that limitation without a bona fide second superstar next to

987
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: Janice is what kind of limits the Bucks in the

988
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: half court it always has, which wasn't a problem last

989
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: year because they were so freaking good defensively. Now they

990
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: are not, and as a result, they can't get enough

991
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: stops to buy them the margin for error that they

992
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: need to succeed in the half court. This is why

993
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: I was so terrified about the prospect of Joanna's ending

994
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: up in Dallas with Luca, because when you put somebody

995
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: with your honest that perfectly compliments his weaknesses, that also

996
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: has the superstar moxie, that that would have been an

997
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: unbeatable combo. There's nothing anybody in the league could have

998
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: done with that duo. We were We were very fortunate

999
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: as basketball fans, for the sake of parody that that

1000
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: did not happen. But instead there is a lot of

1001
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: onus on Jannae to be that permit that a half

1002
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: court creator. The Bucks defense isn't good enough to buy

1003
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: them that margin for error, and I think they're gonna

1004
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: get beat this bulls Suddenly this series looks very much

1005
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: up in the air. I'm still picking Milwauk, but it's

1006
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: a lot closer than it looks. So you've touched on

1007
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: the brilliance of the Celtics defense. You've touched on some

1008
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: of the half court limitations with Janice as that lead initiator.

1009
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: If they do get to that Boston matchup, how does

1010
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Janie fair in that matchup? So, when I came to

1011
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: terms with the reality of the situation tonight, which is

1012
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: that Boston's gonna beat my, uh Brooklyn. And this was

1013
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: before I saw Chicago upset Milwaukee today, but I do

1014
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: still think Milwaukee is gonna win that series. I've been

1015
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: thinking all night about this very thing, Carson, what it

1016
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: will it look like to watch Janice go against this

1017
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: Celtics defense. And when you look at so thinks specifically

1018
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: about what Boston did. Now, one wrinkle here is Boston's

1019
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: relying a lot on roughing up Kyrie and KD. And

1020
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Kyrie and Katie are both very thin in Okay, So

1021
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: that's the weird dynamic. You're not gonna be able to

1022
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: rough up your honest, he's gonna do better in that

1023
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: specific setting. But the swarming is what troubles me. K

1024
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: D could not even put the ball on the floor

1025
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: half the time without having like two dudes swatting down

1026
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: on it. That we talked about that earlier in the show,

1027
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: the way that Boston was attacking him on the catch

1028
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: and then finding out where he would, They'd send Tatum

1029
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: to one side and then as soon as he pivot,

1030
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: here'd be another guy right in his face. That kind

1031
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: of thing Janice is gonna struggle with. And again, like

1032
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: what you're seeing a lot like with Brooklyn. Brooklyn is

1033
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: desperately reliant right now on guys like Seth Curry and

1034
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: Patty Mills to make plays off the ball. Bruce Brown

1035
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: is another great example that, right that's where the onus

1036
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be on guys like Drew Holiday and on

1037
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton. Because Boston is the same thing, to be honest,

1038
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: that they're doing to Katie. They're going to try to

1039
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: just completely remove him from the series. He's gonna have

1040
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more success in transition because he's the biggest,

1041
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: strongest athlete on the floor then, so he'll have more

1042
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: transition success than a Katie or a a Kyrie. He's

1043
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna have more success in off ball pins and duck ins.

1044
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: Right so, like any time that he does a quick

1045
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: seal under the basket, there are gonna be little things

1046
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: like that that Boston won't be able to handle. So

1047
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a few extra punches that he can throw.

1048
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: But the reality is that there's also gonna be punches

1049
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: from Katie and Kyrie in this series as it progresses

1050
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: as shot makers, you know, like Katie's not gonna go

1051
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: over eight in the second half the whole series, right, So,

1052
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: like Janice doesn't have that specific punch, so I but

1053
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: I do think Janice is gonna be turned into a

1054
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: playmaker in this series. And when that happens, it's gonna

1055
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: be on guys like Drew Holiday and Chris Middleton to

1056
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: make shots. So obviously the Chris Middleton injury becomes super

1057
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: impactful and that specific decision. And then Drew Holiday has

1058
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: been an inconsistent playoff performer in his career, has been

1059
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: great this year. But that's gonna be the that's gonna

1060
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: be the conundrum is they're gonna require other guys to

1061
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: make plays, just like we were talking about earlier, really quickly,

1062
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier, with the way basketball

1063
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: is changing, there is a ton more responsibility on your

1064
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: off players to create and there's a lot more traditional

1065
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: off ball spot up guys in Milwaukee, Guys like Wesley Matthews.

1066
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: He's not a closeout attacker. Guys like Pat Connaughton in

1067
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: Grayson Allen, they're not great closeout attackers. They're not the guy.

1068
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: They're more of a traditional old school basketball spot up

1069
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: and shoot corner threes type of guys. So like it's

1070
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: a it's a completely different dynamic and and I think

1071
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: it's a bad matchup and and another reason why I

1072
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: think Boston has got the red carpet laid out for

1073
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: them to win this whole thing. Alright, Well, another element

1074
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: in that dynamic playing out for the Celtics that you

1075
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: did touch on a bit earlier is the Devin Booker injury,

1076
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: and we saw him obviously go out with the hamstring

1077
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: issue in game to the reporting is now that he

1078
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: is unlikely to play in games three and four, And

1079
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, there's always the potential that this

1080
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: is a lingering potentially impactful things. So given that can

1081
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: the Suns win the West without Devin Booker, No, not

1082
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: at all, no chance. There's no way they're beating Memphis

1083
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: or Golden State without him. This is something that I'm

1084
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: very concerned about for Phoenix sake. There's not even I

1085
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: would still pick the Suns to beat the Pelicans without Booker,

1086
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 1: but I think it's going six or seven games like there.

1087
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: If Devin Booker doesn't play in Game three and Game four,

1088
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: which he's basically been ruled out of those games, the

1089
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: Pelicans are getting one of those on the strength of

1090
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: their home crowd, in their athleticism most likely. So it's

1091
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: coming back to Phoenix too too. I would expect the

1092
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns to be able to win Game five in

1093
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Phoenix and then Chris Paul Game six chance to close out.

1094
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: I would probably pick Phoenix there, But moving forward, as

1095
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: we progress through this playoff run, it doesn't get any

1096
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: easier and more than likely they'll end up losing to

1097
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: someone like Olden Stator Memphis. So this is where the

1098
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: hamstring thing gets tricky. So Devin Booker's dealt with a

1099
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: bunch of hamstring injuries in his career back before the

1100
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Suns were really relevant. That was like his most common injury,

1101
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: at least from what I remember anecdotally. In Like, there

1102
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: was that footage that went around on social media after

1103
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: that game. You see him pull up after trying to

1104
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: block Jackson Hayes on that transition run out dunk and

1105
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: he kind of slaps the ball at Chris Paul mutters

1106
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: something to him. Chris Paul immediately turns to the ref

1107
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: and calls time out, walks over the bench, sits down,

1108
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: slaps the hell out of the chair, and looks utterly dejected.

1109
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: And then at another time out, you literally see Jay

1110
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: Crowder asked the question you if you're a lip reader,

1111
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: you see him say like, you pulled it, and you

1112
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: see Devin book Or nod, and you see Jay Crowder

1113
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: kind of like turn and shake his head and walk

1114
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: away right all dejected like. And so some of this

1115
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: reporting around this feels overly optimistic. Again, I don't know

1116
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: anything other than what I've seen, but like, I just

1117
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: pulled hamstring, Like Devin Booker, if he thinks he pulled

1118
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: his hamstring, he's gonna be out a little while. It's

1119
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: the reality of it. Hamstrings are one of the weirdest

1120
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: injuries for re injury. I've pulled my hamstring one time

1121
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: and it was it was the year before I started

1122
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: a playing in college, and I reinjured that thing twice

1123
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: before I gave it the requisite rest, came back in

1124
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: one week, immediately pulled it again, came back like two

1125
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: weeks later, immediately pulled it again, and I was like,

1126
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let this happen again. So I sat

1127
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: out like a month and then I was fine. But like,

1128
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: hamstring injuries are extremely finicky, and so like, there's a

1129
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: very realistic chance, Like would you be stunned, Carson if

1130
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: I told you that Devin Booker is gonna be out

1131
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: for three weeks. And if he's out for three weeks,

1132
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: even if they managed to beat the Pelicans, they could

1133
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: be down to oh in a series in the next

1134
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: round by that point. So like, and even when he

1135
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: comes back, there's gonna be a hesitancy from Devon to

1136
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: push himself because he's nervous about that hamstring going again,

1137
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: just like you saw with James Harden and last year's

1138
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: playoff run. Look at how limited James Harden was basically

1139
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: not driving to the basket towards the end of that

1140
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: series because of his hamstring injuries. So that it's a

1141
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: man like I feel so bad for Sons fans because

1142
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: you do everything right all season long and then this happens.

1143
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: I feel really bad for Devin Booker too, But at

1144
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: the end of the day, injuries happened. This is why, like,

1145
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: I hate when the Lakers and Sons have been trading

1146
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: jabs over the A d injury and the Chris Paul

1147
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: injury and talking ship to each other. It's like, guys,

1148
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: guess what, Like, you gotta be lucky to win, so

1149
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: when you win, be respectful because I understand that you

1150
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: probably had some luck along the way. The Suns had

1151
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: a lot of luck last year. They faced an injured star.

1152
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: I think in every single round of the playoffs. Even

1153
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: joannest in the post in the finals had was coming

1154
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: off of that hyper extended knee. So they got all

1155
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: the luck last year and this year they're on the

1156
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: down side of that then. But man, I'll tell you,

1157
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: if Chris Paul can somehow carry them for a month,

1158
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: that would be that that would obviously, you know, this

1159
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: is this last thing I'll say about it. The Sons,

1160
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: I've been saying, Oh, you're the most talented team in

1161
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: the league from top to bottom. Micaal Bridges is awesome,

1162
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Cam Johnson is awesome, Campaigns an excellent backup point guard.

1163
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton is a star in the making at the

1164
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: center position. They have a ton of talent. So the

1165
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: onus is gonna be on those guys. Mical Bridges is

1166
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to be more aggressive as a score. DeAndre

1167
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: Ayton is gonna have to be more aggressive with this

1168
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: ace up game, and with this post up game. There's

1169
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of pressure on those guys to

1170
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: kind of carry the load because on this team, Devin

1171
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: Booker has been their outlet, their release valve, there guy

1172
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: who can create his own shot, and without him, those

1173
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: other guys are gonna have to fill that void. I

1174
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: think that you touched on what to me was really

1175
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: the key glaring things just in terms of the structure

1176
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: of this team is the Sons have obviously been phenomenal

1177
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: dominant to a team impressive depth and such balance and

1178
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: such a clear identity and cohesion and all these things.

1179
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: And like, if you look at on off numbers, there's

1180
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: still statistically a good team with Booker off the floor

1181
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: this year. But I completely agree with you and that

1182
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: you have to look to those other guys now obviously,

1183
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: and I don't really like the remaining Sons personnel in

1184
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: terms of shot creation, Like Bridges is phenomenal because he's

1185
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: an incredibly cerebral cutter and a great shooter and impacts

1186
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: the game in so many ways without the ball in

1187
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: his hands, and eight and obviously is feeding off of

1188
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: offense created for him, and Crowder is you know, primarily

1189
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: just taking catch and shoot threes. Like I think that

1190
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: the guy they turned to for like actually initiating more

1191
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: offense might have to be like Campaign, And I don't

1192
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: feel very good about that, you know, Like, I just

1193
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: think without Devin Booker, who was so important to greasing

1194
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: the wheels of the offense in so many ways as

1195
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: the most dynamic shotmaker and you know, certainly a top

1196
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: two guys just in terms of creating offense for himself

1197
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: and others, I just don't think they're built to actually

1198
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: overcome that particular loss. So I agree with you. I

1199
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: don't think that there is really any chance. I mean,

1200
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: with how the Warriors are playing right now, and I think,

1201
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, a healthy Memphis team, there's just a gap

1202
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: there in terms a creation that I think is really

1203
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna be too difficult to overcome if book isn't himself

1204
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: or isn't out there. The Campaign element is interesting. They

1205
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: did that a little bit in the playoffs last year.

1206
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: They play Campaign and Chris Paul together to try to

1207
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: get some shot created creation with Devin Booker was off

1208
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: the floor, I would hope, because there's been stories written

1209
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: about this, and I believe it, like Entred And didn't

1210
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: get the Joel embid treatment. Not for the record, DeAndre

1211
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: and is not Joel Embiid, but he didn't get to

1212
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: go to a terrible tanking team and do the stuff

1213
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: that Joel Emba got to do when he was a rookie,

1214
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: which is basically whatever he wanted, you know. And so

1215
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: what you and Michael Bridge is kind of a similar predicament.

1216
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: He didn't get to be brandon Ingram with the Lakers,

1217
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: where he went in on a bad team and he

1218
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: just got to work with tons and tons of game reps,

1219
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: building out the offensive ends of his game, the offensive

1220
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: details of his game. Again, Micael Bridge is not brandon Ingram.

1221
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is is, well, you have to

1222
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: hope is that over these years those guys have been

1223
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: working on some of that and that they will be

1224
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: able to unleash it when they need to. And again

1225
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm with you, like they're not. It's not the strengths

1226
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: of their games. Michael Bridges offense primarily comes out of

1227
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: attacking closeouts and in transition, right, and then you know

1228
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: DeAndre and De'll take the occasional jab step little you know,

1229
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: face up shot or like a pin hook shot in

1230
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: the lane and stuff. But you have to hope that

1231
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: he has some post moves in there, because the thing

1232
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: is is Chris All with his age and his hamstring,

1233
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: has been known to go from on top from time

1234
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: to time. Right. What you have to well, you have

1235
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: to do here is you know, Chris Paul can still

1236
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: do what Chris Paul does. He's been magnificent you know

1237
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: in game in game one of the series in particular.

1238
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: Well you have to hope though, is that Chris Paul

1239
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: when he needs rest, when he gets fatigued, that he

1240
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: can throw the ball the ball to somebody else and

1241
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: create shots. I know, campaign like to your point, can

1242
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: apply rim pressure and at least get that first that

1243
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: first rotation started where the defense has to come over

1244
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: and help. And that's where the onest will be on

1245
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: guys like Cam Johnson and Michael Bridges to make plays.

1246
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: And Cam Johnson has some scoring punch as well. He

1247
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: might have to get into that bag a little bit. Absolutely.

1248
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 1: I mean, all of these guys have their flashes. It's

1249
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: just like they're gonna have to really do it by committee.

1250
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna have to do it pretty darn well.

1251
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: And I do think campaign becomes really important in that

1252
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: equation if Book isn't out there or is not himself.

1253
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: All right, final question we have here, Jason got to

1254
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: do a little bit of Lakers because right at just

1255
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: sixty years old, announced today that he is stepping down

1256
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: from the Villanova job where he has obviously been so

1257
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: successful for so long. Should he come coach the Lakers? Hell? Now? Absolutely.

1258
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times we have to see

1259
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: the college dude who goes pro. It's you know, this

1260
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: is not like a you know Nick Saban slash, you

1261
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: know Bill Belichick type, like you know a guy that's

1262
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: young and grinding, you know that that's failed in other places,

1263
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: are failed in the in the pros at some point

1264
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: that's coming back into this type of environment. No, like,

1265
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's accomplished it all at the

1266
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: college level. The ambition is gone. And we've seen this

1267
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: on a bunch of different levels in NBA history where

1268
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: and in the NFL, like we just saw it with um.

1269
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: Now I'm blanking on his name the coach of from

1270
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Um, it's killing urban Meyer, thank you. I

1271
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: get weird with names sometimes, but urban Meyer coming go

1272
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: into to Miami and then you find out that he

1273
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: doesn't even who von Miller is or whatever. It was

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Speaker 1: like like it's one of those things where like the grind,

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Speaker 1: they're not grinders. And that's the problem is, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers, they've got to find a mix of

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Speaker 1: established personality that has enough cash a that he can

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01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: capture Lebron and Anthony Davis's attention and respect, but at

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Speaker 1: the same time that has the ambition to grind still.

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Speaker 1: And a guy who's coached in college for twenty one

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01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: years and his one national championships and has had all

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Speaker 1: all the stuff on his resume doesn't need that now

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Speaker 1: from what I understand what the reporting, he's not interested.

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01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: But that's an example of a guy that the Lakers

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01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: need to stay a million miles away from. It's just that,

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Speaker 1: like what there was that due to coach at Michigan

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Speaker 1: who went to the Calves for a while, same problem

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01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: that came in, tried to run the program like a

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Speaker 1: college program. All the players were super turned off by

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01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 1: it walked in there like he was the big shot.

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: NBA players kind of like with David Blatt when he

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Speaker 1: coached the Calves. NBA players don't give a ship. Well

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Speaker 1: you accomplished in your other gigs. They don't care what

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Speaker 1: you did in Europe. They don't care what you did

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Speaker 1: in college. Hell like a Like I've seen eye roll

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: ish comments from from Kyrie Irving about Steve Nash in

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: years past, like, and Steve Nash is one of the

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: greatest point guards to ever play the game. So like

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Speaker 1: NBA players are are more interested in in that. They

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01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: they respect very specific types of coaches, So you've got

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01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: to kind of tow that line between respect and ambition,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Yeah, I totally agree. And Jay

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Speaker 1: Wright is just such a college basketball coach just in

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: terms of like being a culture center nova. He always

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01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: develops players into being those really valuable, versatile third fourth

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01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 1: year guys. I do think he's a really good XS

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01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: and O S schematic coach and gets guys to always

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01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: play both ends. Like I mean, it's really hard to

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01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: find nova basketball players who don't kind of overperform expectations

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Speaker 1: in the NBA because he just turns out like smart, good,

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01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: versatile basketball players, but he does not feel like an

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Speaker 1: NBA coach to me, Like he's a guy who owned

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01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: a program for two decades, run things how he wants to.

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01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: Isn't gonna get the highest profile recruits, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: make those guys what they are in a college basketball context.

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Speaker 1: And I agree with you and that it just doesn't

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: feel like it would translate to the NBA. And you

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01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: certainly do not want a guy cash and checks and

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01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, just clocking in and out, especially certainly not

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers given where things are at right now.

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: So I agree, Yeah, the type of the type of

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Speaker 1: coach that would succeed making that transition is kind of

1323
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: like the Brad Stevens archetype, Like the guy that is

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Speaker 1: still young and is ambitious but also steps into coach

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01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: a young team. That's the key difference there. Like there

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01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: were some vets on that Boston team, but they were

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Speaker 1: like guys like Al Horford that were extraordinarily respectful and professional,

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, or like a role player that doesn't really

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: have the cachet to speak up, like a Marcus Morris, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, it was Marcus Mark Jayson Tatum,

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, guys that were very deferential to Brad Stevens

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know he They're like,

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: they don't have the egos yet from being in the

1334
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: league long enough to be like, I don't give a

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: crap about this this college coach that's coming in the room.

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01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it can't be done at all,

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01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: but he's certainly not the type of archetype who would

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, that is all we have for tonight.

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01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: I sincerely appreciate your guys support. Like always, a wild show.

1340
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: There's still a ton to get into on both of

1341
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: these games. But with the Bucks game and with that

1342
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: Sixers game, I didn't get to watch the whole thing

1343
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: because I was so glued into that that Celtics NETS game.

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01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: So I need to go back and watch some film

1345
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: and tomorrow night we will get into further detail on

1346
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: these series, is some of the XS and O stuff.

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate your support. We will be back

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Speaker 1: after the final buzzer of the last game tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you guys then. Volume