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Speaker 1: Three and Out Podcast, back at it again. The game

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail Bag at John Middlecoffe, We do it at

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Speaker 1: M Monday podcast exclusively on this three and out podcast

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Speaker 1: with me John Middlecoff. Subscribe, rate, leave a review. I

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Speaker 1: know many of you have, and I greatly appreciate it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, who I've watched the Atlanta Falcons two

426
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Speaker 1: first two weeks of games. That's a joke. Now, I

427
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Speaker 1: put a little money on the Giants because I thought,

428
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Speaker 1: you know, minus three at home Eli Manning day, Like,

429
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants are a physical team. They should

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Speaker 1: win this game, like twenty four to seventeen or something.

431
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: And then I look up it's tied in the second half,

432
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Speaker 1: and of course the Falcons basically kicked game winning field

433
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: goal win the game seventeen fourteen. And the Giants have

434
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Speaker 1: become a complete laughing stock in the NFL. And of

435
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: course their franchise is valued top five in the league.

436
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: If it went on the open market, they would get

437
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: five billion plus four it. Their owners are incredibly financially

438
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Speaker 1: well off and have made a ton of money. And

439
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: under this John Marra's leadership, with Tom Coughlin, with Eli Manning,

440
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Speaker 1: they had two of the greatest wins in the history

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Speaker 1: of the franchise. And that franchise has won Super Bowls

442
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: before with parcels LT and Belichick as assistant coach. But

443
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: where they are right now, there is zero positivity or

444
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: hope in sight. They have a quarterback who just isn't

445
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Speaker 1: very good. You know, he's a talented player and he

446
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: plays well every once in a while, but for the

447
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: most part he could not be depended on. They have

448
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Speaker 1: a general manager that is clearly pretty questionable. He wants

449
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: to go running back second. Overall, he can't build an

450
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Speaker 1: offensive line. I have little to no faith that he

451
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Speaker 1: can build a winning team right now. With the Giants,

452
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: they have a head coach that none of us had

453
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Speaker 1: heard of when they hired him to replace Pat Shermer

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Speaker 1: two years ago. And then that head coach, being a

455
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Speaker 1: younger guy, tries to act like Bill Parcels. The problem is,

456
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Speaker 1: I think that played a little bit better in nineteen

457
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Speaker 1: three than it does in two thousand twenty one. And

458
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Speaker 1: then this head coach is, like Bill Parcels is not

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Speaker 1: an offensive guy. Now, Bill was a defensive but he

460
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Speaker 1: wasn't the defensive coordinator Belichick was, and he's quote unquote

461
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Speaker 1: special teams guy. But they have a special teams coach now.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, if you watch the

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Speaker 1: some of the thirty for thirties, especially the Bill and Bill,

464
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Speaker 1: like Parcels used to talk about, gave a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit to Belichick for the elite game plans that he

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Speaker 1: put together to take on Bill Walsh and Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: which worked several times in big games. So even for

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Speaker 1: a CEO head coach, he had one of the I mean,

469
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Speaker 1: Belichick defensively might be the greatest schimmatical guy we've ever seen.

470
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Speaker 1: Joe Judge has Jason Garrett as his offensive coordinator. Now

471
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Speaker 1: you could argue if Bill Walsh was the coach of

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Speaker 1: this team, they're not gonna win twelve games, but this

473
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Speaker 1: team might win two in a league that Let's face it,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm watching football all you know, week one through week three,

475
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty average competition. Guys get hurt all the time.

476
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Speaker 1: Like I don't see any powerhouse franchises right now that

477
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Speaker 1: are you know, just head and shoulders like they're they're

478
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Speaker 1: good teams, but the parody in this lead is pretty strong.

479
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: Like most teams, if you can scheme guys up, you

480
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: can compete on a weekly basis. And the Giants are

481
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Speaker 1: looking at like a three and fourteen season. Now, what

482
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Speaker 1: I think the move would be for the Giants would

483
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: be to completely blow it up, start over higher a

484
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Speaker 1: quote unquote Tsara football, a general manager or a head

485
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Speaker 1: coach that runs at all, Like who actually runs their operation?

486
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Speaker 1: Right now? Gettleman's the GM. He didn't technically hire Joe Judge.

487
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: They didn't come in at the same time. The conversation

488
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Speaker 1: is they're gonna hot fire Gettleman at the end of

489
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Speaker 1: the year, but you tell me, okay, Gettleman goes, and

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Speaker 1: then Joe Judge, who's proven nothing, gets to influence the

491
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Speaker 1: next GM. And if he doesn't, then the next GM.

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Speaker 1: Why would he want to keep Joe Judge. You're just

493
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: lost in no man's land. I saw it. The best

494
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Speaker 1: thing Jed Yorke ever did is when he kept letting

495
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: trembulky higher coaches and then it was like, this is

496
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: not working. He just blew it up, started from scratch

497
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: and he got Kyle Shannahan and John Lynch. Now, if

498
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: you watch the game Sunday, Kyle's you know, I still

499
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: got some improving to do. But they gave themselves a

500
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Speaker 1: fighting chance because they gave all the power to John

501
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Lynch Kyle shann and they said, you do everything. And

502
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: it does feel like the Maras and just the giants.

503
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: They like to have their hands in the cookie jar

504
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: as well as influencing everything, and it is not working.

505
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: And the NFL I always heard this forever with writer

506
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: fans around you know, just in general, the NFL is

507
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: so much better when we're good, and the irony is

508
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: they're finally good now. But actually i'd push back and say, well,

509
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: the league's greatest growth in the history of the sport

510
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: was in the two thousands and the two thousands tens,

511
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: and you're an embarrassment. And the league never made more money,

512
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: was never more popular. So I get where you're jealous.

513
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: You wish your teams were good while the league's having

514
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: all the success. But the league factually is actually not

515
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: that dependent on your success, and I don't think they're

516
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: dependent the way the league is set up on any

517
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: individual franchisees success. Because the league is as strong as

518
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Speaker 1: their quarterbacks. Fans see football. We can watch any game.

519
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: Someone in New York could watch Packers Niners, just like

520
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: someone in San Francisco can watch Cowboys Eagles. With gambling,

521
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: with fantasy, we just know all the quarterbacks. It's a

522
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: nationally relevant sport. But until the Giants are willing to

523
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: look internally and ask themselves, we have a major problem.

524
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: This is not working. Our coaches over his head, our

525
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: GM is terrible, Our roster sucks. We need to hit

526
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: the reset button and the reset button. Can't just be

527
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: get a new GM here. It has to be get

528
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: everyone in here from scratch coming together. Because when you

529
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: come in together, you at least give yourself a fighting

530
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: chance people to be on the same page. How can

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Speaker 1: you ever share the same vision when you don't come

532
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 1: in together. I just find that very, very difficult, I

533
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: really do. When you look at the most successful franchises

534
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: over like the last decade, look at the look at

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Speaker 1: Seattle right, and I know they're technically one and two

536
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: right now, but they've won a lot of games from

537
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: like two thousand and eleven until up until right now.

538
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and John Schneider came in together. Pete hired

539
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: John and then as John proved himself, gott eenpowered and

540
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 1: those guys are a tandem deal, right. You've seen him

541
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: forever with the Rooney's and that operation under Tomlin. Again.

542
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: I know they're struggling because of Big Ben, but just

543
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: the consistency of the they never bought them out. They

544
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: can't they There's just too much continuity internally, and that

545
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: people are talented. I think when you're always moving coaches

546
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: and new moving gms. Now the Giants have had, you know,

547
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: two or three g ms over a long period of time.

548
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: But they just, you know, kind of rehashed when they

549
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: had to get Gettleman, a guy who'd been in their building.

550
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Can you ever hire a general manager who's worked outside

551
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: of the building, right, Obviously Jerry Reese came before Ernie Corsey.

552
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Those guys had been in the building. I do think

553
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: they need external help, and I think it's gonna come

554
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: down out. It's gonna be hard for John Mara to

555
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: just fire gentleman and think that's okay, because how will

556
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: he go well, even if he likes Joe Judge feel

557
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: comfortable to bring in a GM, hadn't let Joe Judge

558
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: either influence that higher or have a guy come in

559
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: and then force him to work with Joe Judge? How

560
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: is that going to work? So it's just tough time

561
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants. I don't really have any

562
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: words of wisdom beside, I think if it's going where

563
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: it looks like it's going, and they're gonna win not

564
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: many games. I I think the move might be just

565
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: the nuclear option and blow the bad boy up, and

566
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: you know what, go fishing in the deep end. Go

567
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: offer someone who you think is really good a lot

568
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: of money, and we'll get to that point as the

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Speaker 1: season goes on, once we kind of get an idea

570
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: of the coaching candidates and maybe some of the guys

571
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: that are on the open market. I mean, Doug Peterson,

572
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: he had a lot of success in your division. So

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Speaker 1: I'm winning Super Bowl, so I'm take a team to

574
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, maybe maybe he'd be a little

575
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: more equipped than Joe Judge just saying. I was listening

576
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: to this UH finance show last week and they were

577
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Speaker 1: talking about Chipotle the business model and just how big

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Speaker 1: they've gotten. I actually ate there for lunch. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: eat there, you know, probably once a week. I just

580
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: got a bowl, you know, nothing too crazy, trying to

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Speaker 1: limit the carbs, no rice, usually go double meat, chicken

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Speaker 1: or steak. Uh. One time though, I actually by far

583
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: the sickness I've ever been. I got food poisoning and

584
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: it was definitely from Chipotle. And it was the one

585
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Speaker 1: time in my life when I've been sick. I was like,

586
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: is this what death feels like? I swear to God,

587
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not even trying to be sarcastic. It

588
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: was I I was curled up in a ball for

589
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. It was crazy. I've never ever experienced

590
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: anything in my life even close to that. Uh. And

591
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: I remember it wasn't around the time, but two thousand

592
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: and eighteen. Remember they had like this uh, this meat scare,

593
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: and at one point in time it thought like it

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00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: was gonna end the business. And even after I got sick,

595
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: which I think was probably a little bit before that

596
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: was like sixteen or seven, team, I remember telling myself

597
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: laying in bed, I will never eat there again. They're

598
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: like a year past and I still eat there all

599
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: the time, unfaced. And now their business is booming. They

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00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: would potentially be like market Camp. I mean they're huge,

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00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: they are massive, they print money. You go there, that

602
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: place is packed like burritos and tacos and bowls. I mean,

603
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy concept. It works. It works because I

604
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: do think in this in two thous like you can

605
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: eat dirty there, you can feel like you can get

606
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: a big meal, you can feel like you're eating healthy,

607
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: a lot of options, even though they don't have that

608
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: much to offer you. It's a genius concept. But they

609
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: battled back when it looked like their company could go

610
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: under around that meat scare. I think it was an

611
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: eight team and now they are humming well watching the Steelers.

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00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: When I just finished my Chipotle, I thought, like the

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00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: main difference, like companies can ebb and flow, and a

614
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: lot of our lives in any business, we work and

615
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: can do the same. Right, you can do whatever get

616
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: fired battle back. You have your whole life to produce

617
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: as a worker in uh in society, where as an

618
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: athlete like you have a finite period of time. Now

619
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: it does feel more than ever the time is longer.

620
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: But Roethlisberger's time is over, and I'm not gonna spend

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00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: that much time on it because we've talked a lot

622
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: about him. But like you watched that game, you just

623
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: go it's over. And unlike Chipotle, who's able to battle

624
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: back and feel like they're only gonna get stronger, who knows.

625
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll merge with someone and even become bigger

626
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: one day, Roethlisberger has no opportunity to bounce back. There

627
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: is no comeback when you're his age and you can

628
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: no longer throw it, You no longer can consistently complete passes.

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00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: You He threw a pick yesterday to a guy five

630
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: feet in front of him, that even if the guy

631
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: wasn't there, the duty was throwing too. Was literally double covered.

632
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Both guys were in front of him. He could have thrown,

633
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: and it was the past where he barely lobs it

634
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: and the guy is right there. It's it's got to

635
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: be the word passive his career. But even if I

636
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: removed the one Bengal defender that caught the ball, I

637
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: took him off the field. So let's say the Bengals

638
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Speaker 1: had ten defenders, he would have thrown that interception potentially

639
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: to two other guys. One of the other two guys

640
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: would have caught it. It was that bad. But there

641
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: is no like. You don't come back. There's no comeback story.

642
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: You don't pivot. If Roethlisberger is gonna do anything in

643
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: his career, it's gonna be doing something else. Whether they're

644
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: talking about football business off the field, I don't know,

645
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: but playing football, it's pretty it's evident. One thing that's

646
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: great when you just watch a game quarterbacks. And I

647
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: remember Brady and Peyton used to get mad about this,

648
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: and sometimes Rogers always has like, um, you know, sarcastic

649
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: remarks when people ask him, like, what's it like playing

650
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's like, well, actually, quarterbacks don't play each other.

651
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: It's true, right, the quarterbacks are never on the field

652
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: at the same time that when one guys on the field,

653
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: the other guys sit and drinking game Orady talking to

654
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: his coach vice versa. Right, But ultimately one guy gets

655
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: to win. One guy gets an l and and his

656
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: fans and his people on the outside. It's kind of

657
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: the way we judge them. But to me, the best

658
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: value about watching a game when Herbert and Mahomes are

659
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: playing the game, when Brady and Manning, or you know,

660
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: even when it's like Roethlisberger and Burrow, you just get

661
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: to see them both. One guy's on, one guy's off

662
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: and constantly go off, and you're able to judge the two,

663
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: like which guy would I rather have? It ain't even

664
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: close now. Joe Burrow was the number one overall pick

665
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: in the draft. He looks really good. He made some

666
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: plays in that game. It was like, I want this

667
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: guy on my team, and obviously that's why they drafted him. Right.

668
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: They've had the number one overall pick a couple of times.

669
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Speaker 1: It took Carson Palmer and Joe Burrow s c L

670
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: s U huge blue chip guys. Carson probably more than Joe,

671
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: but I think sometimes like Joe had to transfer, Oh yeah,

672
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: from Ohio State l s U. Do you see the

673
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: team he played on, Jamaar Chase, Justin Jefferson. I just

674
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: watched the Vikings game. Justin Jefferson's a ball or Clyde

675
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: best game as a pro yesterday. And obviously they had

676
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: a million other players on that team that are in

677
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: the pros. But there's nothing they can do with Russburger.

678
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: There's no like you know, in two years, he'll just

679
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: battle back and he'll be on top again. Like no,

680
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: it's it's over. Do they ride it out and just

681
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: keep potentially losing games with him? All he does is

682
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: dumping off to the running back. Nag here is gonna

683
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: get killed because he's getting so many touches, either handed

684
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: the ball off or he's just throwing it down to

685
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: him as a checkdown. Because Ben Roethlisberger's whole career was

686
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: predicated on being a playmaker. It wasn't like even Philip

687
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Rivers at the last year with the Colts, who was

688
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: clearly his his arrow was pointing down. His career was

689
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: coming to an end, but he was still functional. He

690
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: still helped that team win eleven games. He used twenty

691
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: three or twenty four touchdowns. Throw some picks, but he's

692
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: always throwing picks. He was a guy that if you

693
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: had a good enough team around you, you could win

694
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: with him. Now you you couldn't have done that for

695
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: too many more years that that might have been the

696
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 1: last year he could have functioned as a serviceable quote

697
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: unquote like bridge type quarterback. Roethlisberger jumped that step. Roethlisberger

698
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: went from like a good player to all of a sudden,

699
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: really old and it feels over that that's what they're

700
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: at now. And what do they do? They don't really

701
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: have any options. They trade for a quarterback. They go

702
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: with Dwayne Haskins. I think the problem is sometimes when

703
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: you hold on for dear life with a guy like this,

704
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: it becomes very very difficult for ownership, not the fans.

705
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Like the fans understand what's at stake now, like just

706
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: bench them. But Rooneys aren't gonna do that. It's very

707
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: hard for Mike Toman to do that. Do you know

708
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: how much money and how much winning the Rooney's and

709
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: Tomlin have done with Roethlisberger they're emotionally tied to him.

710
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: When I talk about Belichick with draft picks, his greatest

711
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: attribute was he never gets emotionally tied with anybody ever,

712
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: including Tom Brady. Now you can say that hurts him sometimes,

713
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: and it does. But for the most part, he doesn't

714
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: get in these positions where he's got a guy that

715
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: every fans like, take him out of the game and

716
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: he keeps playing. He might happen for a week or two,

717
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: but he always gets rid of or benches. I don't

718
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: see the Steelers necessarily doing that. They're gonna ride this

719
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: thing out until maybe his body just completely breaks down.

720
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: But how many multi pick game or how many games

721
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: are you gonna get beat by the Bengals at home?

722
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: Like I like Joe Burrow, and I think Jamaar Chase

723
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: looks awesome, but they shouldn't be kicking your ass at home.

724
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: That that shouldn't happen. You're not playing you know, the

725
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks or the l A Rams or the Green

726
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. You're playing the Cincinnati Bengals. Now, I get it,

727
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: divisional games can be tight. But I watched that game

728
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: and my main take and I get t J Watt

729
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: didn't play, and he's an elite player. Against the Bengals,

730
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure he would have, you know, probably gotten a

731
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: couple of sacks. But when when your quarterbacks that terrible

732
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: and really that big of a liability, but also held

733
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: to that high of a stature because of his name

734
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: and because of his equity that he has built up

735
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: with your franchise, I think it's the worst place to

736
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: be in because I think you're just stuck and the

737
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: fans just have to write it out with you and

738
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: be miserable. Now, I'm still not going to write them

739
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: off as like a three or four win team just

740
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: because of the culture. But after watching that yesterday and

741
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: knowing that Roethlisberger has already heard and knowing they don't

742
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: have a chance to bounce back like Chipotle, Uh, because

743
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: I told you I would never eat it again, and

744
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: I've probably since I said that in my mind when

745
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: I was curled up eating it five times since you know,

746
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: and I feel pretty confident like it's over, Like it's

747
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: unofficially over for Roethlisberger. Every game he starts is just

748
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: playing out the string, and more than likely the more

749
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: games you keep rolling them out against just credible opponents, like,

750
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: if you play the Jags of the Jets, you'll probably win.

751
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: But any time you play a functional quarterback that has

752
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: any talent on the team, like, you're liable to lose

753
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: because you will have a disadvantage at the most important position.

754
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: Were for the most part in his entire career, beside

755
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: when he played Brady or Peyton, like, you had the

756
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: advantage in every time that you rolled out with. That

757
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you won every time, but for you know,

758
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen years, Roethlisberger was your greatest trump card. He

759
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: played with some great defenses, one of the greatest wide

760
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: receivers ever, some great running backs, but it's a quarterback

761
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: league and he was their trump card. And he now

762
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: is just a complete disaster. And it's sad, but it's

763
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: part of the business because it's it's over one thing

764
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated by, and I think this helped

765
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: me be a scout, and it's helped me ever since

766
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: I've gotten into kind of the business world the last

767
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: four or five years. Is doing homework on an individual's background,

768
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: right whenever I meet with someone. I'm sure anyone listening

769
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: does this too. But I love and it's never been

770
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: easier now because of Google and the Internet to use

771
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: LinkedIn to just find out a lot about a person,

772
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: and you know, it's fascinating. Some of the biggest business

773
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: deals I've done it at least in my life, have

774
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: been from guys that are not that have big roles

775
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: and whatever said company I'm doing a partnership with. You know,

776
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: they don't always go to Harvard. You know that they're

777
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: not always going to Vanderbilt or Northwestern or Ohio State

778
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: some of these big universities. Sometimes they come from small schools,

779
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: and as a small school guy myself, I always kind

780
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: of appreciate that. Now I've been around people and know

781
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people that have gone to big schools too.

782
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: But I think the older I've gotten, he realized where

783
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: you start is pretty irrelevant. And I definitely noticed that

784
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: when I was scouting, and it's still something i'm doing.

785
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: I'll do when I sit on a couch and watch

786
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: these games on Sunday or hell even Saturday when I'm

787
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: watching college football. Is I love looking into a guy's background.

788
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: How many stars did he have coming out of high school,

789
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: how many colleges were recruiting him, how much interest there

790
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: was in the you know, in in college football or

791
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: even you know, draft wise, if I haven't heard of

792
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: a player, what round did this guy get picked in?

793
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: What was his background in college? Smaller school guys. I'm

794
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: fascinated by it. I I love the background information on

795
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: a human being. I don't know. Again, maybe I'm a weirdo,

796
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: but it really intrigues me. And I'm watching the What

797
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: game was it? Oh, it was Tampa Bay and the ramps.

798
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: That place was rocking. You know, listen that that place

799
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: that had a great atmosphere. I didn't expect it to happen, right,

800
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: I just I didn't understand, or at least I didn't

801
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: know the l a crowd, what it would truly look like. Obviously,

802
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Dodgers and USC football we've seen

803
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: them have great teams in those places rock. But bringing

804
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: an NFL team who knew and that place it looks fantastic,

805
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: looks great on television. Not an empty seat in the place.

806
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: It was an electric atmosphere, no part of it. Tom

807
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: Brady rolling into town. But still, you know, the Rams

808
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: are a big time show right now and Cooper cup

809
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: is making play after play after play, And I knew

810
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: he went to Eastern Washington. When I scouted I went

811
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: through that program. It reminded me a lot of where

812
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: I went to school at cal Poly. Facilities really shitty.

813
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: I bet there's places in Florida, Ohio, Texas, and California

814
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: that high schools are dramatically nicer from a facility standpoint

815
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: than Eastern Washington. So I look up Cooper cup who

816
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: was the top five wide receiver in the NFL right now,

817
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: he can't be cover. He makes play after play. He

818
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: didn't have one star next to his name, not one

819
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: star next to his name. He was not recruited by anybody,

820
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: and earlier in the day. Now while this guy went

821
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: to a Power five program and really probably the second

822
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: best program on the West Coast over the last couple

823
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: of decades, and Oregon, justin Herbert was a three star

824
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: recruit who was getting offered by places like Northern Arizona,

825
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Portland's State, and Weaver State in Montana state. Like that

826
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: was the crew of schools coming after him. Now, I've

827
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: heard before that he had committed earlier to Eugene, that

828
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: was where he was from. But he was not some

829
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: big national recruit. And I'm watching Cooper Cup who is

830
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: a star right now in the NFL. I'm watching Justin Herbert,

831
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: who physically I heard Coward say that he thought that

832
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Herbert was every bit as talented as Mahomes. I still

833
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: think Herbert has to prove a lot, but his talent, like,

834
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: you don't need to be Bill Walsh. You know this

835
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: doesn't take Peyton Manning to watch jer Herbert and go,

836
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: holy sh it, this guy is a freak. Now, he

837
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: benefits from having two blue chip guys on the outside.

838
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen turned out Alabama to bring his brother to

839
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: come to cal Zack Maynard, who's arguably one of the

840
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: worst college quarterbacks I've ever seen. But Keenan Allen star

841
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: absolute baller to meet him and Davante Adams, two best

842
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers in the league, Mike Williams top ten pick.

843
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember what the Clemson helped

844
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: them win. Natti's is an unstoppable force, so he benefits

845
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: from having to kick ass wide receivers, which he did

846
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: not have an organ and he he was a six

847
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, but let's face it, he was

848
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: an afterthought compared to the other two guys, and to

849
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: uh like, let's face it, if you watch the Miami

850
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Dolphins play the Raiders, the Dolphins would have lost that

851
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: game by ten plus points off to have played Jacoby Brissette, who,

852
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: by no means Dan Marino is on a completely different

853
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: level than to Ah. I would much rather have Jacoby

854
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: than to a If you watch the line last week

855
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: and Vegas is unemotional, the line improved for the Dolphins

856
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: when Too was announced he was out. I think it

857
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: went from five to four and a half, or maybe

858
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: it was four and a half to four when they

859
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: announced Jacoby. That should not happen. If I take Derek

860
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Carr away from the Raiders and I put in Peterman,

861
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: their line might change eight to ten points. That's how

862
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: it should happen. Vegas zero motion just uses, you know,

863
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: they just judge you by the talent of your quarterback basically,

864
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: and two as a disaster. And so the Chargers got

865
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: some got lucky that he fell to him and Joe

866
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: Burrow was much more accomplished coming out. And now, let's

867
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: face it, watching some of Joe Burrow against Pittsburgh, I

868
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: watched that game. He made a couple of throws. The

869
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: throw he made at the end of the half to

870
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase was elite, and Jamar Chase, who couldn't catch

871
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: a cold in August's catching everything now. I think he's

872
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: got three touchdowns. His catch down the sideline, I know

873
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: he had two touchdowns, but the one he had on

874
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: the deep go route was a elite. But ultimately the

875
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: NFL the best part about it is it doesn't really

876
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: care where you start. Mac Jones went to Alabama, he

877
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: played with all these stars, and he still got drafted fifteen.

878
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: But if he's not good for the next three or

879
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: four years, he will not be in the NFL long

880
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: or he'll just become a backup. Like that will happen.

881
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. It's gonna happen. For five

882
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks that we're just drafted the top fift team,

883
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: probably three of them won't be any good. We don't

884
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: know which once. Hell it might it might turn out

885
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: to be Trevor Lawrence, and some stuff is out of

886
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: your control. Cooper cup has really benefited from going to

887
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: a team with the top offensive mind as head coach.

888
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: Now he gets Matt Stafford and it looks like he's

889
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: even going to another level. Justin Herbert is really benefiting.

890
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: I say this all the time. A lot of stuff

891
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: in our life is out of our control. Even though

892
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: we can technically control a lot, there's still like part

893
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: of our success is dictated by other people in whatever

894
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: business we're in, in any industry that you work in,

895
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: Like justin Herbert would be really talented if I put

896
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: him on another shitty team. But having Mike Williams and

897
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: having Keenan Allen like that help. And he's making the

898
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: most of it because he's the elite talent. But both

899
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: of these guys combined for three stars coming out of

900
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: high school. One I went to Eastern Washington. The other

901
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: guy offers from Montana State in Portland State, and right

902
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: now they're probably two of the best fifteen players in

903
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: the NFL, and it's really fun to watch. I don't

904
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: know why a geek out on that so much, but

905
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 1: it's one of my go to moves. If I see

906
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: you and I don't know who you are, I'm looking

907
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: up your background if you know. And I tell any

908
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: young person this, It's never been easier if you're going

909
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: to a meeting, if you're trying to get ahold of somebody,

910
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: utilize the Internet, your friend linked in as your friend,

911
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: like who cares? It's like, well, what if he has

912
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: the premium and he can see I looked, who cares?

913
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't care? Befriend of I connect everybody? You know,

914
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: this is more information um and definitely as a from

915
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: a scouting standpoint, you're constantly talking about their background and

916
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: it's always fascinating. A lot of five star guys get

917
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: extra chances in the NFL that probably they don't deserve,

918
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of two three star guys, you know,

919
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: might get dropped down the pecking order early on, and

920
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: it happens definitely in college, but even in the draft.

921
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: But if you prove you can play now, Cooper Cup

922
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: was a second round pick, like I said, Herbert was

923
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: a six overall pick in the draft. But where they started,

924
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: you would have said they would never become stars in

925
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: the NFL with the way that they were rated at

926
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years old, and that's just that's just not

927
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: the case. Consistently, guys overcome, you know, where they start

928
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: in football to uh to have fantastic careers. I just

929
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: wanted to hit on this because Saturday, I basically just

930
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: watched the Ryder Cup and just a couple of college

931
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: football games. Kind of a week slate of college football.

932
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: Had to watch My dogs Friday night, Ja Kaner fifteen touchdowns,

933
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: one pick, no big deal. But one game that I

934
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to watch and I know several people at

935
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: this program was Oregon State USC and organ State kicked

936
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: their ass. First time Oregon State has won in Los

937
00:47:54,280 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: Angeles against USC since nineteen sixty. I've been Corvallis obviously

938
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: for work when I was in the NFL, but that's

939
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever been there. They have no

940
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: business ever beat in USC like that. That record existed

941
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: for a reason. There's a huge discrepancy in the two programs.

942
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: But one thing I think we need to pump the

943
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: brakes on a little bit. SC is clearly gonna be

944
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: the best job opening this fall. Obviously it's already open,

945
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: but if it, if it's once different coaches get fired

946
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: all over the country, it to me is gonna be

947
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: the best job. Unless Ato gern were to get fired

948
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: at l s U. I think L s U is

949
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: a better job than USC. But watch l s U.

950
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna win nine games. And I was someone

951
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm probably guilty that that maybe gets fired. But we'll

952
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: see A and M is not any good. Um, I

953
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: think SC I mean L s U. Beside Alabama, I

954
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: have to look to see if they played Georgia, they'll

955
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: be okay. You know, I know they had the rough

956
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: loss to U C. L A. But you know, and

957
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: I don't love their quarterback, but I could still see

958
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: them going nine and three, hell maybe even tendant to

959
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: if they're only lost to Alabama. And that's not gonna

960
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: get it fired. But if that job became available, I

961
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: do think it would be better in USC. The one

962
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: thing I think we need to pump the brakes on

963
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. We're talking a lot about how good

964
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: the USC job, and in theory it is great in

965
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: a lucrative recruiting area, a ton of players everywhere history

966
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: football matters to the fan base. The conference beside Oregon

967
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: right now is not very good. I guess beside Oregan

968
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: State it's actually not bad either. But really, like Oregon

969
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: is the only other program, I mean, right now, it

970
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: is the only program in the conference they can compete

971
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: to go to the final four, which you know, in

972
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: a couple of years might be the twelve. But it

973
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: has the easiest route when you factor in a Big

974
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: ten job or a an SEC job. Right it's like

975
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: the a CEC. There's one prominent program and even the

976
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: a SEC right now Clemson fallen off there there's nobody,

977
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: but they're a lot at the line of scrimmage offensively,

978
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: and Coward's been talking about this for a while offensive

979
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: their offensive line snakes. They do not have blue chip

980
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: offensive line recruits. I think I saw someone that covers

981
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: the pack twelve tweet out like since maybe it was

982
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve or two thirteen, the year that USC

983
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: lost out on Andrea's Pete uh Garnett, the guard that

984
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: the forty Niners drafted, and there was one other offensive

985
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: lineman in that class, and I remember Lane Kiffin kind

986
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: of said, we can't wait to get these guys, and

987
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: they ended up going to Stanford. It was pretty eye

988
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: opening at the time. It's never really been the same.

989
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: The Pete Carroll days feel like forty years ago, more

990
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: different than the actual eleven or twelve that they actually are. Right,

991
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: however long Pete's now been at I guess he would

992
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: have left in two thousand ten to go to Seattle.

993
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: The job's gonna be a little bit longer of a turnaround,

994
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: I think than people realize. Uh, there are several recruiting

995
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: classes to even think about recruiting to make the playoffs,

996
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: let alone beating all the pack twelve teams. They have

997
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: a long way to go. Even if urban Meyer, who

998
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: looks miserable his team sucks, he doesn't even feel like

999
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: he wants to be in Jacksonville. They might go in seventeen,

1000
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: you go, John the likelihood, Well, you know, if I

1001
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: was being realistic, i'd go, Yeah, they'll go too and

1002
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: fifteen If I was, if I was gonna bet on it.

1003
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: But if you go too and fifteen, you're an interception

1004
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: in a fumble ball away from being owned. Seventeen, they stink.

1005
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: They are terrible. The Cardinals didn't even try watch that

1006
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: game on red Zone. It's like they're just going through

1007
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: the motions. But there's so much better than Jacksonville. It's

1008
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: gonna be very, very difficult for them to win. Maybe

1009
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: they could beat the Colts. You know, the Colts culture struggling. Uh,

1010
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: they beat him last year. But I do believe that

1011
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: usc The job is gonna take several recruiting classes, and

1012
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: they're the eth line of scrimmage. I mean, they have

1013
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: one good defensive end, but for the most part they

1014
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: are gonna need several classes of guys to rebuild this thing. Now,

1015
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: the job is gonna be intriguing. They're gonna be people

1016
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: that want the job, and you can win there because

1017
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: of the ability to recruit. But do not think even

1018
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: Texas sark inherited way more talent on that roster than

1019
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: any coach will the day he gets hired to be

1020
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: the USC head coach. So just when the guy gets hired,

1021
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: one thing, as c fans are gonna have to be

1022
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: able to take a deep breath and at least relax

1023
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: for a little bit, is it's not gonna be an

1024
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: overnight success story. It's not gonna be the following year.

1025
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: You're eleven and one that that has not taking place. Honestly,

1026
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: what you're bottoming out now, and you could even bottom

1027
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: out a little bit that first year the guy takes

1028
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: over as he kind of cleans house, kicks off some guys,

1029
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: just kind of resets the program. So I would say,

1030
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: best case scenario, even if Urban were to quit and

1031
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: come would you be competing to go to the playoffs

1032
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: two thousand four, Okay, let's drive in Middlecop mail bag

1033
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: at John middlecopp is the Instagram. Slide up into those

1034
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: direct messages and give your question answered here on the show.

1035
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: Start with my guy named Mike. Here's one for the

1036
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: mail bag. Do you think the Bears lost this week

1037
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: solidified Naggie's fate and he will let go get let

1038
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: go after this year. I think he's showing with two

1039
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks that he has trouble adjusting his play book

1040
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: and strength to his players. Yeah. I would say that

1041
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: wasn't a great start to the to the season. Uh,

1042
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: but it's only week through three. If he can adjust,

1043
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: they play the Lions this week, that's must win. They

1044
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: lose the Lions, everyone can get fired. They might just

1045
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: play the rest of the season with no coaches. You

1046
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: cannot lose to the Lions. But I agree, adjust your playbook,

1047
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: show that you can work with fields. I saw that

1048
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: he said today that he doesn't even know who his

1049
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: quarterback is. Play fields work, try to play to his strengths,

1050
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: try to make him look better and better as the

1051
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: season goes on. Now they have a fatal flaw. Ryan

1052
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: Pace built one of the worst offensive lines in league history.

1053
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: They might not be able to block me or you,

1054
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: so you could argue you're just gonna get the kid killed.

1055
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, he needs to show some

1056
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, just some dynamic ability to make plays

1057
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: with justin fields. You know, at least try to extentuate accentuate.

1058
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: I said, accentuate, accentuate, uh, and put his skills at

1059
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: the forefront of the offense. That to me would be

1060
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: the key to at least make ownership happy. But it

1061
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: isn't their owner like a ninety eight year old woman.

1062
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: So I who knows? Hey, John love the pod from Ethan.

1063
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: At what point do you think the Seahawks seriously considered

1064
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: moving on from Pete Carroll. I know that he is

1065
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: the best coach they've ever had, brought them to two

1066
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowls on one one, but since they haven't really

1067
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: sniffed the NFC championship, even though they still make the

1068
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: playoffs every year. Uh. He's also a defensive head coach

1069
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: and has failed to field defense a good defense for

1070
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: the better part of five years now beside a game

1071
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: here there. I might be overreacted in the past two

1072
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: weeks and how bad their losses have looked, but it

1073
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: seems like the team has lost motivation, energy halfway through

1074
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: the season, uh the second quarter, and have fallen flat

1075
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: on their faces in the last two games. Well, I agree,

1076
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: but you know, Pizza gonna be seven years old, So

1077
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: just from an age factor, like how long is it

1078
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: g gett a coach? You know he's been there, I

1079
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: think over a decade. What else can he do? And

1080
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be critical of him, but like,

1081
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: maybe it's just over, Maybe it's just time for a

1082
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: new voice. I think the question is who would they hire.

1083
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: Obviously the job would be extremely intriguing. I mean, you

1084
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: have Russell Wilson, d K looks awesome. Lock it defense

1085
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: isn't great, but they do have a couple of pieces there.

1086
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Wagoner's getting older, they got Jamal under a big contract.

1087
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: Need to get a pass rusher. But if you look

1088
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: at the last two weeks, I agree they kind of

1089
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: stalled out. Their offensive coordinators never called place before two

1090
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Derrick Henry just went nuts, took over that game. Yesterday,

1091
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: they just kind of got outplayed their offense. They drove

1092
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: right down the field, scored a touchdown. I think DK

1093
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: scored their first touchdown. They got up seventeen to seven,

1094
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: and then Minnesota just came storming back that if you

1095
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: have good wide receivers, they cannot stop you. That's just

1096
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of been that way for several years. And

1097
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: when you look at their their heyday, right, Richard was

1098
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, Chancellor was a third round pick.

1099
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: So three of the or two of the three members

1100
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: of l ob you know, I know they had four members,

1101
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: but the other corner rotated. You know. I wouldn't say lucky,

1102
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: but anytime you nail a third rounder who becomes a

1103
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: star safety and a fifth rounder becomes a Hall of

1104
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: Fame corner, I'm not saying it's lucky, but it's not

1105
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: exactly like elite scouting. I mean, it is technically elite scouting.

1106
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: But if they knew Richard Truman was gonna be rich Truman,

1107
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: they would take him in the fifth or first round. Hey, John,

1108
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: we're out visiting from the East Coast and my husband

1109
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: is a huge fan. Any chance will be at the

1110
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: Niner game. He would love to meet you. I'd love

1111
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: to meet him too. I didn't go m best seed

1112
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: in the house a game my couch. I'm new to gambling.

1113
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: I just thought I'd share this with you. I had

1114
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: four dollars left in my draft King sports book count,

1115
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: so I a six team parlay. Took the Cardinals, the Bills,

1116
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens, money line, the over for the Chiefs, Chargers,

1117
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: the Bengals plus two and a half, and the Browns

1118
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: minus seven. I can't handle gambling, even a little bit

1119
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: of money like this. Don't know how you guys do it.

1120
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good hit. Congratulations. It's a good feeling.

1121
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: There's nothing like hitting to parlay, though they tell you

1122
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: parlays not the greatest bet, just because you need so

1123
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: many things to hit, but they are fun when you hit.

1124
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: Keep up the great takes. You mentioned a second rounder

1125
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: for Justin Tucker. As Allons fan, I'd say that's a

1126
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: fair trade. What a kick? What a kick? Sixty six yards?

1127
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: I know it was in a dome, and I bet

1128
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: some money. I had the Ravens to win by eight.

1129
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: That did not happen, actually eight and a half. I

1130
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: mean they should have lost, but sixty six yards Justin Tucker,

1131
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: He's gotta be the most talented kicker in the history

1132
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: of the league. I'd say Vinitarry is the most famous,

1133
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: mainly because He's been in those situations to hit those

1134
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: great kicks. Tucker's teams, you know, haven't got to even

1135
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: the championship game the last several years. Right, he's never

1136
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl. How long has Justin Tucker

1137
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: been there? Did you get there after the Super Bowl?

1138
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: I feel like he did, but maybe bringing him up

1139
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: right now? He got married in two I guess his

1140
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: rookie year he won the Super Bowl. Pretty incredible story.

1141
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: He was an undrafted free agent out of Texas, an

1142
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent and his first year he's Super Bowl champ.

1143
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Four time first team All Pro, two time second team

1144
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: All Pro, been to four straight probe or I guess

1145
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: not four straight, but a bunch of Pro Bowls. I've

1146
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: been able to go to another Pro Bowl this year. Yeah,

1147
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean to me, he's a Hall of Famer. I'd

1148
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: put him in the Hall of Fame. Sixty yards sixty

1149
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: six yards, that's nuts. We see every year quarterback bus

1150
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: and usually one or two quarterbacks making it big. In

1151
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: your opinion, who's going to be the quarterback bus out

1152
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: of the first round draft class. I'm not rooting for

1153
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: anybody to be a bust. Now, granted I don't root

1154
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: in anyone in society to fail. I root for at

1155
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: least unless I absolutely hate you and you've done something

1156
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: to me or my family. But you know I don't.

1157
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't haven't had that many run ins with people

1158
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: in in life, so you know, for the most part,

1159
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for everyone to succeed. I want all five

1160
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to be good. Now, my own takes were I

1161
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't think Mac Jones is that talented, so if he fails,

1162
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: I look smarter. Uh, Trevor Lawrence. I mean I I

1163
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: was on the Trevor Lawrence bandwagon. I really like Zack Wilson.

1164
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: I just didn't love to fit the Jets new coaching staff.

1165
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Team sucks the market. I think that's gonna be very,

1166
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: very challenging. And the Bear situation I love justin fields,

1167
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: but that situation right now offensive line is awful. His

1168
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: coach and GM are on the hot seat. The the

1169
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: easiest situation is Trey Lance. He basically gets a city year.

1170
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: He comes in and plays like two plays are both

1171
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: running plays. He's gonna get them a home kind of treatment.

1172
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I would guess Lawrence is going

1173
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: to turn out to be okay and Trey Lance just

1174
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: given a situation. The other situation, I mean Mac Jones

1175
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: in theories in a good spot. But you know everyone's

1176
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: DM and me like middle Coff, you being too hard

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01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: on Mac. It's Josh McDaniels. Yeah, Josh McDaniels just forgot

1178
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: how to call plays. Maybe his quarterback just has some limitations.

1179
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it's really that simple. It's quarterback has some limitations. Now,

1180
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: like I said, belichicks a little off, the teams a

1181
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: little off. The Bears really stink, and the Jets are

1182
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: even worse. So it's just it's gonna be tough. Man.

1183
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: It's a tough, tough league. It's hard to play well

1184
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It really is. I don't think we'd

1185
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: give enough respect for the guys that consistently do it well.

1186
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Anyone can have a good game, anyone can have like

1187
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: a good quarter, anyone could have a good half season.

1188
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: Can you have like back to back good seasons. It's

1189
01:00:54,920 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: very very difficult. Okay, last one mail back question. I'm

1190
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: soon to be an Oklahoma State graduate in December. Congratulations,

1191
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Welcome to the real world. Keep your head on a swivel.

1192
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: So it's a mother out here. I'm wondering what are

1193
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: your thoughts about the program of late From ten to eighteen,

1194
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: they were consistently the second or third best team in

1195
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: the conference, winning ten games six times and meeting Texas

1196
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: seven out of nine years. It's pretty impressive stat My

1197
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: question is why have they fallen off so heart since

1198
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and James Washington senior year? Is it time

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01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: for Gundy to go well? I was looking at the

1200
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: slate of games this week for college football, the top

1201
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: twenty five Oklahoma States four. Oh. They beat Boise this

1202
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: year on the road. Uh, they played Kansas State this

1203
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: week if I remember correctly, like I would give my

1204
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: Gundy a chance. I think Iowa State clearly is not

1205
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: as good as we thought. They just lost. Oklahoma does

1206
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: not look very good this year. Oklahoma State right now

1207
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: is where are they? They're playing Baylor this week? Their

1208
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: four no. So Oklahoma State. They beat Missouri State, Okay, patsy.

1209
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: Then they beat Tulsa kind of a patsy, but they

1210
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: went one on the blue turf. That's an impressive win.

1211
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: Now they beat Kansas State, who Kansas State actually looked

1212
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: pretty good early in the season, pounded Stanford. Then they

1213
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: get Baylor, then they get Texas, then they get Iowa State.

1214
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Tough little stretch. If he can win two of these

1215
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: next three games, I think you've got a chance to

1216
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: go tenda to tennant two at Oklahoma. State's a really

1217
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: really good season. You're not Oklahoma, you know, twelve and

1218
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: oh is not realistic. If you can go tendant too

1219
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 1: and compete to win eleven games go to a good

1220
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: bowl game, that is a freaking hell of the season.

1221
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: So I would say Gundy's doing a really good job

1222
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: this year through four games to win them all. I mean,

1223
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: it's the point of the sport. Win and he's four

1224
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: no and he's got the team ranked in the top twenty.

1225
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: So appreciate everyone. Slide up into those d m s.

1226
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: Shoot me the d ms at John middlecoff is the Instagram,

1227
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: and have a good week, you know, smile, be kind

1228
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: to people. Uh, try to be productive, and I'll see

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Speaker 1: you all on Friday. Peace the volume