WEBVTT - The Tesla Tale Part Two

0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Get in test with technology with text Stuff from how

0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff dot com. We're there, we won and welcome to

0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.000
<v Speaker 1>text Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren foc Obama,

0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and we are going to continue our discussion about Tesla Motors,

0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:25.800
<v Speaker 1>the company that strives to bring electric vehicles to everyone

0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.639
<v Speaker 1>as long as you have lots of money, lots of

0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.080
<v Speaker 1>money right now. They have they had solid plans for

0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the future, and it's really impressive for a company that's

0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.600
<v Speaker 1>only been around since two thousand three, right, especially for

0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.839
<v Speaker 1>a company that went through so much public turmoil. I mean,

0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.040
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of moments that we talked about

0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.400
<v Speaker 1>in our last episode where you could have looked at

0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that at the time and thought, Okay, the writings on

0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the wall, this company is not going to last. But

0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.479
<v Speaker 1>it lasts. It's still around. I mean, you can you

0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.279
<v Speaker 1>can buy Tesla's now, so yeah. Yeah. At the end

0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of our previous episode, we were talking specifically about some

0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.760
<v Speaker 1>of the financial problems that were happening um and during

0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.400
<v Speaker 1>which Elon Musk talked to his brother Kimball and went like,

0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I really just need just a little bit more private funding.

0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.119
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that Kimball said to him,

0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, are you sure, Are you sure that's what

0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you need right now? Like, are you sure it's going

0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to be worth it? Right? And? Uh, you know, Musk

0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.640
<v Speaker 1>is a determined individual. I think you would say, especially

0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.839
<v Speaker 1>if you'd listen to our episode that we recorded about

0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk last year. Uh, he's he's certainly, he's got

0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.319
<v Speaker 1>He's got that vision and the determination to follow through

0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to achieve that vision. That is pretty important in this

0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of industry. So August two thousand nines where we're

0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.160
<v Speaker 1>picking up, and that is when Tesla Motors relocates its

0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:44.119
<v Speaker 1>headquarters from San Carlos to Palo Alto. Over the course

0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand nine, they would produce about eight hundred

0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.640
<v Speaker 1>roadsters um and managed to get the production cost down

0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to some thousand dollars a piece, which is a lot

0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.559
<v Speaker 1>better than the hundred and forty thousand dollars a piece

0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that they were operating at a couple of years previous,

0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.600
<v Speaker 1>especially since they were selling them at a hundred nine

0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a piece. So now they're selling them at

0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a profit profit as opposed to add a loss. Yeah,

0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a in general, I mean, I don't know a

0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.160
<v Speaker 1>lot about business, but I do know that you generally

0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.079
<v Speaker 1>want to sell something for more money than it costs

0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you to make it. Uh at least that's I mean,

0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I probably a missing something here. But in January, Tesla

0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.400
<v Speaker 1>registered for an initial public offering, which is kind of

0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.680
<v Speaker 1>interesting because, like we said, they had just you know,

0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.680
<v Speaker 1>asked the government for four hundred and sixty plus million

0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.080
<v Speaker 1>dollar a loan, but they were getting ready for it,

0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.200
<v Speaker 1>so they were registering it. And that's not exactly when

0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.560
<v Speaker 1>they held it, but that's when they registered. UM. The

0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.360
<v Speaker 1>key to that loan, if you remember from our previous episode,

0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.160
<v Speaker 1>was that Tesla had to have a mass production facility

0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.160
<v Speaker 1>UM and they did not have that yet. But in

0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.000
<v Speaker 1>March of Musk secretly toward Knew Me, which was a

0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.720
<v Speaker 1>or is a two acre vehicle production plant in Freeman,

0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.080
<v Speaker 1>California that's valued some like one billion dollars UM. It

0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.280
<v Speaker 1>belonged at the time to Toyota and General Motors. Well.

0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.079
<v Speaker 1>GM had backed out of the plant UM in two

0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.680
<v Speaker 1>thousand nine after declaring bankruptcy, and Toyota was planning on

0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.600
<v Speaker 1>stopping production the following month and in April, so this

0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:17.880
<v Speaker 1>plant was basically up for grabs, and no one else

0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>in the auto industry was doing well enough to really

0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.480
<v Speaker 1>want to take it over. Yeah, that global financial crisis

0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:26.000
<v Speaker 1>had really hit the auto industry, particularly in the United States,

0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:30.720
<v Speaker 1>really really hard. Akio Toyota, that the president of Toyota

0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.800
<v Speaker 1>himself had actually arranged this tour for Elon Musk and

0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.080
<v Speaker 1>would develop a friendship with Musk over the next couple

0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of months. Uh, they like test drove the roadster together

0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and like towards SpaceX and bonded over through you what. Yeah,

0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I know that happened. There, there's journalistic evidence of this thing.

0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.960
<v Speaker 1>You mean that maybe one day I too might be

0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.080
<v Speaker 1>able to sit across the table from Elon Musket and

0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Joyce fro you. I think I think it's possible, especially

0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.520
<v Speaker 1>if you become the president of a multinational corporation that

0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.480
<v Speaker 1>ask can greatly profit from. Oh it's nothing but a

0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.960
<v Speaker 1>gravy train from myro on outfolks. All right, So May

0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:09.080
<v Speaker 1>two thousand ten, Tesla ends up buying that plant. Yeah,

0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.520
<v Speaker 1>for just forty two million dollars. You just told me

0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it was worth a billion. That is exactly what I said.

0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.560
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's it's that thing where really no

0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.200
<v Speaker 1>one else was in a position to buy it, and

0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.159
<v Speaker 1>they were fro Yo buddies at this point. So so yeah,

0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, nothing, nothing really greases the wheels, like like Oreo,

0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Like an Oreo crumbled Froyo. But yeah, sotwo million dollars.

0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.320
<v Speaker 1>This incredible, right, Yeah, Meska had budgeted that amount for

0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.520
<v Speaker 1>a much more modest factory and and ended up with

0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.880
<v Speaker 1>this massive place, this massive place. Yeah. And and Tesla

0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and Toyota also announced an agreement. Oh yeah, they said

0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.240
<v Speaker 1>they were going to start developing electric vehicles together at

0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Toyota agreed to purchase shares in Teslas. So in June,

0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Tesla has its initial public offering and joins the NASDAK

0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Stock Exchange. Now, that public offering was very successful, at

0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.280
<v Speaker 1>ray more than two twenty six million dollars, and it

0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.839
<v Speaker 1>was the first American car company to complete an I

0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.360
<v Speaker 1>p O since Ford's way back in Yeah. So at

0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that point, right, this is the same wired piece that

0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a quote from our previous episode had had been in. Right,

0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that's when Elon Musk said, at that point, every day

0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.800
<v Speaker 1>was like eating glass and staring into the abyss of death.

0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not positive that was a dramatic reinterpretation, you guys, um,

0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.760
<v Speaker 1>but uh, yeah, that's that. That was a quote from

0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.760
<v Speaker 1>two eight or so when things were really not looking

0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.120
<v Speaker 1>very good for for for Musk and for Tesla, and

0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.280
<v Speaker 1>so things had turned around at this point a whole lot.

0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Musk at this point said, I'm not staring into the

0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.880
<v Speaker 1>abyss of death anymore. I'm just eating glass now. It's

0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like sunshine and puppy dogs. Uh. And And that that

0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.000
<v Speaker 1>wired piece, by the way, is how Elon Musk turned

0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Tesla into the car company of the future, by one

0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Davis. And it's a really triffic piece. I'll try

0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to remember to link it on social so that you

0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.599
<v Speaker 1>guys can enjoy it as well. Yeah, it's great. It's

0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a great resource for this this whole podcast. In January

0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eleven, Tesla reports its financial results and they

0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.839
<v Speaker 1>have to do this so publicly traded company has to

0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.280
<v Speaker 1>report part of the because you have the responsibility to

0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.760
<v Speaker 1>your shareholders as well as the government, and revealed that

0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.680
<v Speaker 1>it lost a hundred fifty four point three million dollars

0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.159
<v Speaker 1>in twenty ten, not a big not a big surprise.

0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, because the roadster was really the only

0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.640
<v Speaker 1>thing they had, uh as to sell. They had received

0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.680
<v Speaker 1>some investment money and alone, but they hadn't They didn't

0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.960
<v Speaker 1>have any more product to move yet, right, and they

0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.560
<v Speaker 1>still weren't producing a whole whole lot of them. Yeah.

0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.560
<v Speaker 1>In fact, roadster eventually, I mean spoiler alert, eventually the

0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the full number of roadsters that they produced was somewhere

0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.000
<v Speaker 1>just south of two thousand, five hundred, so not that many.

0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Now we skip ahead a whole year, so let's all

0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:09.480
<v Speaker 1>go dolululu little in January two twelve now, and Peter Rawlinson,

0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:13.000
<v Speaker 1>who was vice president and chief engineer, and Nick Sampson,

0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:17.240
<v Speaker 1>who was a vehicle and chassis engineering supervisor, both resign

0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.600
<v Speaker 1>on the same day. At the as soon as the

0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:26.200
<v Speaker 1>news breaks, shares drop nineteen per cent. So it's part

0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of the problem here is that, uh, both of these

0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.239
<v Speaker 1>guys were very heavily involved in developing the models, and

0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the fear was that this was going to lead to

0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.080
<v Speaker 1>some sort of problem with the model lesque production and

0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that people lost confidence in tesla Um. And also they

0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.080
<v Speaker 1>decided to do something else that was a little radical.

0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, that that is when they in fact ended

0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:55.360
<v Speaker 1>production on the roadster before I could get one. Were

0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you planning on getting a roadster? Plan is a strong word,

0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.679
<v Speaker 1>dream or hope? Are you planning on getting a driver's license?

0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I know I was playing on getting a driver and

0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a roadster. The hard part is sitting in the back

0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of a car that only has two seats. That that

0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.920
<v Speaker 1>part I hadn't figured out yet. But anyway, February two

0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand and twelve, that's when Tesla unveils a new vehicle. Yeah,

0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the Model X, which is an Suv yep, to go

0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:25.880
<v Speaker 1>on sale in early it's not it's they're they're supposed

0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.200
<v Speaker 1>to be delivered sometime this year. But although in another

0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.040
<v Speaker 1>spoiler alert here, if you were to put in an

0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.320
<v Speaker 1>order right now, it would essentially be a pre order.

0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.520
<v Speaker 1>They can't guarantee delivery till two thousand fifteen, so I'm

0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.360
<v Speaker 1>telling you guys know. But but they were. They were

0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.600
<v Speaker 1>taking five thousand dollar deposits for the vehicle, and it

0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.720
<v Speaker 1>has my favorite feature of a vehicle ever. So now, okay,

0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.840
<v Speaker 1>if the roadster can't be mine, I'm not a big

0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.520
<v Speaker 1>suv guy in general, but this one I would get

0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:56.440
<v Speaker 1>for this one feature. It has freaking goal wing doors,

0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the yea yeah, and hey, hey that

0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.520
<v Speaker 1>would have a back seat, so you could have a driver.

0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.640
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's all right. I can have my driver

0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.000
<v Speaker 1>driving around in the electric STV. Okay, got a new goal.

0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm all right, I've recentered myself. So May two thousand twelve,

0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Tesla announces it will begin delivering Model S cars to

0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:21.439
<v Speaker 1>customers starting on June twelve. And then on June twelve,

0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they had an Apple like launch event where they started

0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to deliver the first Model S vehicles in person and

0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.400
<v Speaker 1>for the first three anyway. Uh I watched the video

0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.640
<v Speaker 1>on this and it was definitely very much like an

0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Apple event, although I guess it was more of an

0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:40.040
<v Speaker 1>internal company event that press were invited to. I think

0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it was mostly Tesla employees and it was more of

0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a you guys, we did it. This was something that

0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.839
<v Speaker 1>people said was impossible. Everyone kept saying that, uh, it

0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.199
<v Speaker 1>was the company was not in good shape, that the

0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.080
<v Speaker 1>global crisis had caused us to lose sight of everything.

0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.640
<v Speaker 1>That never happened. It out here it is. And at

0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:02.720
<v Speaker 1>that time there were ten owls and reservations for the models,

0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and most of those people had never seen one, let

0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:10.160
<v Speaker 1>alone Saturn one let alone driven in one. So that's

0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of promise. Yeah, and you've got, Yeah,

0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you've got. Some might say it's a little cultish. It

0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.640
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of another car company, the Saturn Car Company,

0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.920
<v Speaker 1>where people who got Saturn's early on. Did you ever

0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.920
<v Speaker 1>meet anyone remember some of the hype surrounding it, But

0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know anyone at the time. Now, yeah, well,

0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Tesla they talked about being a community, especially the roadster

0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.840
<v Speaker 1>community early on because those very few people, very exclusive, right,

0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.360
<v Speaker 1>But same sort of thing, Like it was this idea

0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that you're being inducted into this sort of exclusive club.

0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.480
<v Speaker 1>But also because you shared this vision of an electric

0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.960
<v Speaker 1>car future with zero G emissions. I mean this was

0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a big deal for a lot of people. Sure. Speaking

0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of cults, has that cult going? The cult of Matt? Oh,

0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.839
<v Speaker 1>the Matt one. Yeah. See, I'm not allowed to talk

0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.520
<v Speaker 1>about that. I also can't talk to my family anymore.

0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, it's great. This is all Ben,

0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Ben and Matt of stuff. They don't want you to

0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.360
<v Speaker 1>inducted Jonathan into a call they did. I'm not sure

0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.120
<v Speaker 1>if Scott bought in. Its kind of a holdout. Yeah,

0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it's Okay, we have people watching his house all the time.

0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.400
<v Speaker 1>But if you go to their YouTube channel you can

0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.840
<v Speaker 1>check out Jonathan on that. Yeah, it's fantastic. So getting

0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.480
<v Speaker 1>back to the model s, it's a four door sedan.

0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.880
<v Speaker 1>This is that that luxury sedan that they had been

0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about years before, right and they here it is

0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.840
<v Speaker 1>finally coming out. It has an optional seating for seven.

0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.480
<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, there's a lot of extra cargo

0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.520
<v Speaker 1>capacity when you remove the need for exhaust systems and

0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.000
<v Speaker 1>thermal shieldings so that you don't cook your passengers like

0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:52.240
<v Speaker 1>eggs on an engine block, the catalytic converters and etcetera, etcetera.

0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.120
<v Speaker 1>It's also the body is made mostly of aluminum instead

0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of steel to cut down on weight, obviously very important

0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.960
<v Speaker 1>so that you can not have to use as much

0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.600
<v Speaker 1>power to move the vehicle. Uh And unlike the Roadster,

0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it actually had two battery options, so you had one

0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that would give you the bigger battery package option would

0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.080
<v Speaker 1>give you three hundred six miles of range or about

0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:18.160
<v Speaker 1>four kilometers on a single charge, and the smaller had

0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.520
<v Speaker 1>more arrange that was closer to the Roadster, which was

0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.720
<v Speaker 1>about two hundred forty four miles or around three kilometers. Now,

0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.280
<v Speaker 1>it was also designed to be very aerodynamic to cut

0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.840
<v Speaker 1>down on drags, so again to try further reduce the

0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.400
<v Speaker 1>load on that battery exactly, and it had regenerative breaking

0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to again reduce the load on the battery some more.

0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:42.480
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, the recharging thing still kind of

0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.760
<v Speaker 1>an issue, especially since some people just can't get over

0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that idea that oh, I want to be able to

0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.800
<v Speaker 1>drive as far as I want, whenever I want, and

0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:54.360
<v Speaker 1>not worry about running out of juice. Well, it has

0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a mobile connector that can plug into a hundred ten

0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.480
<v Speaker 1>vault or two hundred forty volt outlets. Uh. But you know,

0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.120
<v Speaker 1>usually you would just plug it in at night. If

0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.439
<v Speaker 1>you were to plug it into one of these outlets,

0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you would get only a fract faction of your full range.

0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.439
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, if you were on the road and you

0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to charge your car, Uh, let's say you go

0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to a public charging station and you recharge the battery

0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.760
<v Speaker 1>at a rate where you get about twenty two miles

0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.640
<v Speaker 1>or kilometers for every hour of charge. Some can charge

0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a little faster than that. A two forty volt outlet

0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.720
<v Speaker 1>will provide thirty one miles or fifty kilometers of range

0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.559
<v Speaker 1>per hour of charge. But they're super charger stations, and

0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk more about them in a little bit, but

0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they can provide one seventy miles or two hundred seventy

0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.480
<v Speaker 1>four kilometers of range for just thirty minutes of charge,

0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's pretty incredible. Still, it's a half hour, right,

0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot different than it's much more cumbersome than

0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.200
<v Speaker 1>pulling up to a gas station and being out in

0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.680
<v Speaker 1>under ten minutes. Yeah, So that that's something that some

0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.240
<v Speaker 1>people still ball cat, even though I think most of

0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.640
<v Speaker 1>us if we were to actually right down how many

0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.600
<v Speaker 1>miles we traveled in a typical day, I think for

0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.320
<v Speaker 1>most of us it would be significantly below the range

0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Tesla. Again, some people, obviously are are exceptions,

0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.280
<v Speaker 1>but I think the majority of us would be able

0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to uh comfortably drive that range and then plug in

0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.160
<v Speaker 1>at night and be fine the next day. Of course,

0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.800
<v Speaker 1>if you forget to plug in your car, then you're

0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, up the creek. So the car has a frunk,

0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.280
<v Speaker 1>which is a front trunk of that work. I don't

0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.440
<v Speaker 1>approve of it, it does. It just sounds dirty, but

0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that it's got it's got a frank. But yeah, I

0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.720
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't like the that that version of front

0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.080
<v Speaker 1>trunk either. I mean having a front trunk awesome. That's fine.

0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.760
<v Speaker 1>By calling calling it a fronk not good. But yes,

0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you can store stuff there excellent. Well. And the Roadster

0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>just like the Roadster, it has an electric motor and

0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.480
<v Speaker 1>fixed gear drive, but it has a liquid cool power train.

0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Unlike the Roadsters, which, as you recall from the last episode,

0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly it just brought in air from the vents, this

0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.520
<v Speaker 1>one had a liquid cooling system and again it uses

0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.400
<v Speaker 1>lithium ion batteries just like the Roadster did. One of

0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the big shiny elements of this car was it's or

0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.160
<v Speaker 1>is it's seen UM touch screen for all of the

0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.960
<v Speaker 1>controls and UM media communication. You can you can do

0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.640
<v Speaker 1>everything from controlling the temperature in the cabin or know

0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.280
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. There's some people who I

0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.840
<v Speaker 1>know have said that that was a little scary to

0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.920
<v Speaker 1>have a big panel that could be distracting to the

0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.960
<v Speaker 1>driver but sor that could electrically short out and stop

0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.800
<v Speaker 1>stop giving you, you know, importantality and information UM. But

0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:46.240
<v Speaker 1>chief designer friends von holtz Heusen said, uh, it's like

0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the leap of faith Apple took with the iPhone. There's

0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.240
<v Speaker 1>a cleanliness to the interior and the screen is the hero.

0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.640
<v Speaker 1>We're in the midst of a transition toward a new

0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.320
<v Speaker 1>way of thinking. For me, that's an iPhone moment, and

0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it is an impressive display. I mean, i've I've I've

0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.200
<v Speaker 1>only seen pictures of them, because George is not one

0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.000
<v Speaker 1>of those places. We we live in Georgia, and George

0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.400
<v Speaker 1>is not one of those places that has a lot

0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.320
<v Speaker 1>of the supercharger stations. In fact, we have one, and

0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it's in Savannah, which, for those who are not familiar

0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.880
<v Speaker 1>with Georgia geography, is way the heck away from Atlanta,

0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.800
<v Speaker 1>about five hours travel time by car. Yeah, so you're

0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.040
<v Speaker 1>not gonna see a lot of these. Not saying that

0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:23.960
<v Speaker 1>no one has them in Atlanta. I'm sure there are

0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a few, but I haven't had a chance to see

0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.760
<v Speaker 1>one in person, but I've seen the pictures and they

0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.000
<v Speaker 1>are pretty so. When it launched, they had talked about

0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the base price of the lower end models without any

0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.280
<v Speaker 1>options on it or anything, was around sixty thousand dollars,

0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and the one with the larger battery pack was around

0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:46.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand. Um, those numbers are different from today's numbers.

0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.720
<v Speaker 1>And also they changed year to year and based upon

0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.000
<v Speaker 1>all the different options. So that was the idea of

0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.600
<v Speaker 1>when it first launched. Um. And also there was this

0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.160
<v Speaker 1>optional third row seat that that idea that seventh, it

0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that you would set three people in the front

0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and four people in the back or something. You know,

0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it's meant just for children. And it meant that they

0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.400
<v Speaker 1>also had to put in extra safety features. Sure. Well,

0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the this this third row was facing backwards, and uh,

0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.480
<v Speaker 1>if customers order the car in this layout, it includes

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a special rear bumper like like double bumper in the back. Yeah,

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.239
<v Speaker 1>it meant more there was more crumpled space there in

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.000
<v Speaker 1>case of a rear collision. So if if a collision

0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>happened at highway speeds, then uh, it would be just

0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.240
<v Speaker 1>as safe from the rear as it would be from

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the front. So uh, and we'll talk more about its

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>safety record when we get into the second half. In fact,

0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.520
<v Speaker 1>this is a good place to take a quick break

0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.879
<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsor. All Right, we've worked our way

0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:44.160
<v Speaker 1>up to September two thousand and twelve, the models has

0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.920
<v Speaker 1>come out and at this point, Tesla announces that will

0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.879
<v Speaker 1>build out that supercharging network that I had talked about.

0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So the super charging stations were places that are our

0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:58.320
<v Speaker 1>places rather where people can quickly recharge their Tesla vehicles.

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.240
<v Speaker 1>They use this proprietor arry kind of of connection between

0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the supercharger and their vehicle, and for absolutely free of

0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.280
<v Speaker 1>charge for any Tesla user, they can start to recharge

0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.240
<v Speaker 1>their car and after about half an hour they've got

0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a hundred seventy mile range. Like we said

0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 1>in the earlier part of this podcast, they would announce

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.320
<v Speaker 1>a year later the the option to have um in

0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.439
<v Speaker 1>instead of sitting there for half an hour and charging

0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.000
<v Speaker 1>your car, just swapping out the battery pack, which can

0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.919
<v Speaker 1>take as little as nine seconds. Yeah, yeah, there was.

0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.200
<v Speaker 1>There was one demo where they showed it being done

0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.159
<v Speaker 1>in something like thirty seconds. But this was you know,

0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in a in a scenario that was specifically engineered to

0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.880
<v Speaker 1>be as fast as it possibly could be, all right,

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and that is for a service fee. And I think

0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that the formula that they use is is the market

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.960
<v Speaker 1>price of fifteen gallons of gas, which they estimate to

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 1>be somewhere between sixty and eighty dollars. Yeah, that's exactly

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:53.960
<v Speaker 1>what I've heard as well. So in other words, you

0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.199
<v Speaker 1>can if you if you have the time, you can

0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.520
<v Speaker 1>sit around for half an hour and let your car recharge,

0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.880
<v Speaker 1>or if you're gonna get going, you can dish out

0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the sixty to eighty bucks or whatever the equivalent is

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.719
<v Speaker 1>at that given moment and get a new battery switched

0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.760
<v Speaker 1>in and it'll be fully charged and does give you

0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a full range of travel. Again. So the other thing

0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.159
<v Speaker 1>about this proprietary technology is it means that only model

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.400
<v Speaker 1>S vehicles can um plug into this stuff. So it's

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:26.400
<v Speaker 1>not like there's any kind of uh market sensibility to

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 1>to get these things into as many charging stations as possible.

0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>It's really just based on Tesla putting them in. Yeah,

0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.600
<v Speaker 1>because if you drive any electric vehicle from any other manufacturer,

0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you cannot take advantage of these superchargers. Um So it's

0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of uh, it's kind of Tesla guaranteeing that

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they're going to have an invested base because they've they're built,

0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they're the ones actually putting the infrastructure out there. They're

0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>not depending upon other UH entities to do that. So far,

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they have built seventy nine of those supercharger stations in

0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the U s um it's a it's a mostly West

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.280
<v Speaker 1>coast trail. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. If you look

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.680
<v Speaker 1>at the map, um, imagine that it starts in Seattle.

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.719
<v Speaker 1>It didn't really start in Seattle, but just think of it.

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's looks like it's a snake in

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a way that the one end of it is in Seattle.

0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Then goes down the West coast with lots of stations

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 1>in California, starts to loop inward. You guys who are

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.399
<v Speaker 1>not from the United States are going to get a

0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.480
<v Speaker 1>really weird sense of geography here. But starts the loop

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.919
<v Speaker 1>inward and goes into Arizona and New Mexico before arches

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:33.560
<v Speaker 1>northward and goes into the upper Midwest States. Lots of

0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 1>stations in Chicago, so once you get to Illinois, there's

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a good cluster there. Then it continues into the northeastern

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.399
<v Speaker 1>part of the United States, then trails down the East coast,

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:44.720
<v Speaker 1>which is where we get you know, the one in

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.640
<v Speaker 1>station goes down into Florida, and then you have a

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 1>disconnected pocket of supercharged stations in eastern Texas. In fact,

0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Bernie Burns of of Rooster teeth has a model s

0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Tesla and talks about how it's great. He loves it,

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and he loves the supercharge stations, and he's frustrated about

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.199
<v Speaker 1>a certain law that we will talk about in a

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit. But yes, Um, Tesla plans to continue building

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.480
<v Speaker 1>out this network of stations to get better coverage, and

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>in fact says that they estimate by the end of

0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.160
<v Speaker 1>two thousand fourteen they'll have eight percent of the United

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>States covered in parts of Canada as well, and by

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of two thousand fifte percent of the country

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.440
<v Speaker 1>should be covered, so that you should have a supercharger

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>within range of your vehicle and another one within range

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:38.400
<v Speaker 1>of that one. Meanwhile, Europe does have a few yeah, yeah,

0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 1>more than a dozen. Yes, that's how many they have

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I didn't see any indication on the

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>website about Tesla's plans to build that infrastructure out very much.

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that they do plan on doing it,

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have any numbers like the eighty or

0:21:58.000 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>that they had for the United States. I'm sure that

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.919
<v Speaker 1>as sticky as the legal situations here in the States

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>are right now, Um, probably they're they're trying to They're

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 1>they're picking which fish they are going to fry at

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:14.200
<v Speaker 1>which time. Frying fish is a very delicate procedure. It is.

0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.880
<v Speaker 1>But in two thousand thirteen, in February, Musk had his

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 1>his little tiff with the New York Times. Oh right,

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.159
<v Speaker 1>that was when John Broder wrote this this kind of

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>hypercritical article of the model asque called stalled out on

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's electric highway. Yeah. He claimed that that he ended

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>up losing juice um and that the Tesla vehicle did

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:41.640
<v Speaker 1>not adequately warn him, and Musk ended up writing an

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.879
<v Speaker 1>extremely detailed blog post where they took lots of metrics

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:51.720
<v Speaker 1>straight from the car from the car, that right, and

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 1>they said, look, we looked at what you did in

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>our car, and it's not the same thing as what

0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you said in the article. In fact, you wing two.

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>When you were charging it, you said that you need

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to go sixty one miles. The vehicle had indicated that

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you had enough of a charge for thirty two miles,

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>and then you stopped charging and started driving away, and

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you still went fifty one miles. And then we're surprised,

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>apparently when you didn't go the full sixty sound miles. Yeah,

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>so what Musk was saying, is that you are not

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 1>being honest, You're being disingenuous with this report. And there

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of back and forth between Broder and

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Mosque and The New York Times in general, and eventually

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Margaret Sullivan, the public editor of the New York Times,

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>offered a quasi apology, saying that there was some errors

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 1>in precision, but not in integrity. So it's almost like

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>a very double speak kind of apology. Yeah, so the

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>end of the day didn't hurt Tesla's sales at all.

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.400
<v Speaker 1>People still had interest in the model s So this

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>review didn't didn't end up um or this article, I

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.959
<v Speaker 1>guess I should say, didn't end up having a huge impact.

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Though Musk at the time had claimed that because of that,

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>from a corporate standpoint, they lost about a hundred million

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>dollars in potential potential investment. I I honestly think that

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it was It wound up driving positive hype for the

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:19.479
<v Speaker 1>company um and at any rate, by Tesla would have

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>its first ever profitable quarter. YEP, they made five sixty

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>two million dollars in revenue. I have no idea how

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>much they made in profit because I don't know what

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>their costs were and uh I pulled this information from

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>their initial report, so I'm sure there was a more

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>specific report that goes into the profit. But consumer reports, Um,

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>they had some nice things to say, right Uh yeah,

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>unlike unlike the New York Times. They gave the models

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>their highest rating for a car ever, which was out

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.679
<v Speaker 1>of there a hundred point scale. Now, meanwhile, there were

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>some other competitor companies that were also trying to get

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>into this electric car market. Uh. And they included companies

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like Coda and Fisker, and both of these had been

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>struggling for a while. Coda would end up going bankrupt

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the week before Tesla announced its profitable quarter, and Fisker

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>would eventually follow suit, declaring bankruptcy later on. Uh so

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you know this. This was again another story about how

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Tesla was able to defy the odds and and see

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>success while other companies were trying to do the same thing.

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>We're failing right right Um. As of Junior or June

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and or July of Tesla paid back that four d

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and sixty five million dollar loan from the Department of

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Energy and simultaneously raised a billion dollars from investors. That's

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty impressive that is also the time period that they

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>started announcing those battery swapping stations that we were just

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.959
<v Speaker 1>talking about a moment ago. And so then in August

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 1>two thousand thirteen, Tesla announces that the National Highway Traffic

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Safety Administration awarded the Model S a five star safety

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>rating across all categories and sub categories. And according to

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a press release on Tesla's website, they said that the

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>combined score technically, like when they would show scores, that

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>five was the top, but in reality it could go

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a little higher than five. It's just that they would

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>say it's a five star rating. They so that there's

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>ended up being a five point four, which was the

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 1>highest that any car had ever received as far as

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>safety rating is concerned. And this included I think the

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>car that they sent over for testing was one that

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 1>had that seventh additional seat, and so you know, they

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>decided they tested this thing by doing lots of crumple zones.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>They said that the but the fact that has a

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>frunk means that has a bigger crumple zone because it

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have that engine block there, so that helps protect

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the driver and passengers from head on collision. They also

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>strengthened the car's sides, They strengthened the back. In fact,

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the Tesla representatives said, you know, technically there

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>are ways you can gain the system because you know

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>which ways they're going to test the vehicle. So so

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>what we did was we strengthened those parts of the

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>vehicles first and then said, okay, how do we make

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the car as strong as these strong points. Yeah,

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and and a few of those other really basic electric

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>car um contrivances, uh necessities really mean that the the

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>overall strength of the car can can be based on

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the underbelly. It can be completely flat, which can allow

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you to cut down on on a lot of annoying

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>stuff like a like road vibration and stuff like that,

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and and also make it much more U crash compatible. Right,

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and also it's got a you know, the fact that

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you've got the battery pack down there beneath the floor

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>pan means that has a very low center of gravity,

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>which actually helps not only in the handling but instability.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>It means it's really hard to flip it over. In fact,

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.719
<v Speaker 1>they said that in the tests where they were you know,

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to flip the car, they had to go through

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>extreme measures in order to get the car to flip

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>because the center gravity was so low. Perhaps in response

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to this innoc hoper m, a bunch of kind of

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>sensationalistic news stories began popping up about fires breaking out

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and model SS And to be fair, these these fires

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>were popping up in cars that had that had just

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>been in a crash. Um and I haven't heard any

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>stories of these fires getting past the cars safety firewalls

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>into the passenger compartments. It was all just in the

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>confined to the battery. And uh uh, some of the

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>emergency response teams that showed up didn't know entirely how

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>to deal with an electric car fire as opposed to

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a a gasoline engine fire. The method of dealing and

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>containing that kind of thing is pretty pretty different. Yet

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>um and Uh Musk and True Musk style post a

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>really calmly derisive blog response about how driving around with

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>large tanks of highly flammable fuel really isn't um more

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>safe than his electric batteries. So sends a lot like

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>saying that, hey, just because he used bitcoins to launder money,

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what else is used to under money? Dollar

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>bills way more as it turns out same, SAME's worth

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of thing. It's it's funny that we're recording these episodes

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>so close together, and and the themes are so close.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>February two fourteen, Tesla announced a planned five billion dollar

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>giga factory factory. Yeah, I can't help but think of quagmire. Uh,

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>this giga factory, this is just to produce um there's

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>lithium ion batteries four vehicles. Yeah, and in fact, this

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>would be an attempt to make them easier to get

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 1>to because as it turns out, Uh, there are several

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>large companies that supply lithium ion batteries, but Tesla's pretty

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>much beholden to them, right. That's that's where it's the

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>only source they can go to to get these. They

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>say that they're planned twenty twenty production using this factory

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>building these lithium ion batteries, that the the amount they

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>produced in that factory would actually be more than the

0:29:55.680 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>global cell supply in two thousand thirteen. So in this

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>one factory they would be able to make more cells

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that would be assembled into batteries than they could get

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>if they had the the corner on the global market

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, and and this is all part of

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the third step of that plan that we talked about

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>in our first episode for for the company to uh,

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, first produce a sports car and then produce

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a Family Sedana luxury Family Sedan granted, but then to

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>begin producing electric cars for the common person. Yeah, and

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>so uh they say that this twenty twenty production would

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>allow them to create to produce as many as half

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a million vehicles in a year once it goes online.

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>So they're looking right now, it's the factory is not built.

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>They're looking at different potential sites to build this factory. Uh.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>They first went ahead and discounted California, so it's not

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be there. They said that it will probably

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>be in either Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, or maybe Texas.

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>But although at this point it's looking like maybe not Texas. Yeah.

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So March two thousand fourteen, Texas had already passed this

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>law that I'm about to talk about. But this is

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>when New Jersey joins Texas, Colorado, Virginia, and Arizona by

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>passing legislation that bands Tesla from using direct sales to

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>sell cars to customers. Right, as we said earlier, Tesla

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>uses direct sales, they don't go through a third party dealership, um.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And dealerships don't really like that so much. No, And

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>in fact, they often have a lot of political sway

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of particularly in certain states like I don't know, Texas.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So you get into these the states where you have

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>politicians who say no, you know, Tesla needs to play

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>by the same rules that these automakers are playing. They

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>do also claim that it's better for shoppers and owners

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>alike to be dealing with third party party sellers um,

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and that that's going to encourage competition. Yeah. I don't know, Lauren.

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever gone to a dealership where someone told

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you that whatever car you were interested in was not

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the right car for you? I have, Um, I have

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>so many opinions about car dealerships and the way that

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>they sell cars. I have gone through this process twice

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>in my life, and um I I don't genuinely hate

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>many things, but car dealerships are something that I have

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that it's like, it's like flames on the side face. Yeah, No,

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean burning fiery passion. So see, this

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>is it's interesting to me because Tesla's approach otherwise is

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>very much like apples Now. Now, granted, you can buy

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Apple and other stores, so it's not it's not completely analogous,

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>but but it's pretty vertical. I mean, yeah, Apple has

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>its own store that you can go to and you

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>can buy from Apple. You can either buy it online

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>or you can go to the physical store and buy

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it there. Uh, but you can also go to Best

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Buy or whatever and buy Apples. That's some of those.

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>But in this case, Tesla is very much like the

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>pure Apple experience, saying you come to us, we will

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.479
<v Speaker 1>sell you a car. And these states have said you

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>cannot do that, and in fact, uh, at least not

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>in our state. So if you want to buy a

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Tesla and you live in one of these states, you

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>have to leave the state first to buy it. You

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>can bring it back to here, then that's fine. Yeah,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's not the driving the vehicle in New

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Jersey or Texas is illegal. It's not, but it's illegal

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to purchase it the way Tesla sells it. So people

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>like like Bernie Burns that I mentioned, have to leave

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>their home state to go and purchase a car that

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they want. I mean, like I said, Texas even has

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>some of those supercharger stations available. They have some of

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure, but they still have this law that says

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you cannot buy direct from Tesla, which is one of

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why some people think that Tesla may not

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>choose Texas to be the home for that gigaf fector

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>or perhaps Arizona at that point. Yeah. True, Yeah, so

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it may be that Nevada is gonna win out on

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that one. We'll see. But anyway, these days you could

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>buy a models if you have the you know, the wherewithal.

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>There's also the Model x A, right, you can put

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>down a reservation for that, although like we said earlier,

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>like Jonathan said earlier, Um, the deliveries of those are

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>if if if you preserve today, are not planned to

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>be in right, so there should be Model x is

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>on the road before the end of this year. I

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think any have rolled off the assembly lines yet

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>from the customers that I'm personally aware of. And the

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>roadster is officially off of the market, so I'm sure

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that a few of them are floating around here, and

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>that like a you know, fifty grand or so, you

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>might might be able to pick up a used one.

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh anyway, So yeah, that's the story. Of Tesla Motors

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>so far. It actually, to me is a remarkable story

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>on multiple fronts. For one thing, the idea of a

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>company that is coming at the electric car problem from

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>a totally different direction than other companies do. Write other

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>companies coming in from let's let's really target the echo

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>environmentally friendly market. Tesla says, let's go with these cars

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>can be sexy. Yeah, let's go with a really high

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>end user and and and convince them convinced the world

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that this is something that they want. And and you know, therefore,

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>by trickle down effect go you know, when when they

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>put out something that's cheaper, have the common guy go like,

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>oh man, that's that company that makes those incredibly sexy cars.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I want incredibly sexy cars. Especially since by that time

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>they've built out a lot of the infrastructure that you

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>would need to charge your vehicle if you ever had

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to do it when you're out on the road. That

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>makes it practical. So I think really savvy. Yeah, they

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>went about it in a really really interesting way. Obviously

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't smooth sailing to make the entire time smooth

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>road sailing. Yes, yeah, And by the way, we're not

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>suggested that Tesla cars are like boats. Um. Anyway, it

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>will be really interested to see how this goes. I'm

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>very curious to see in the next five or six

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.240
<v Speaker 1>years what kind of of the lower cost cars Tesla

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>comes out with, assuming that they do continue on that path. Yeah,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about that potential Giga factory thing. Yeah. I

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>would love to be able to to see Tesla dealerships

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>or stores what I guess they're technically stores pop up

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>in a lot more places to to and uh maybe

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>even see competing um companies come out with their own

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>electric vehicles that are just as compelling to to the

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.439
<v Speaker 1>average driver as the Tesla has been so um. Yeah,

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and plus it also means that we're going to see

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>other alternatives as well, like the hydrogen fuel cell cars.

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>It's really exciting to me to see this kind of

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>development away from the internal combustion engine as we are

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>all familiar. So if you guys have any suggestions for

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>future episodes of tech stuff, here's the thought. Let's know

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>about them. Don't just whisper it quietly into your pillow

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>at night. We can't hear that anymore, and I say,

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>has told us to cut that out. But if you

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>would send us an email, send that to tech stuff

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>at Discovery dot com, or drop us a line on

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the social networks we frequent, which include Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook.

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>We use the handle tech Stuff hs W and you

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>should too, and we will talk to you again, really

0:36:58.400 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>soon